Anti-snap lock snapped : Why you should have BS 3* or Diamond Standard locks
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
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In this video, we take a look at why you should have British Standard 3* or Diamond Standard Locks to prevent burglaries via lock snapping
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I have a door with a euro lock with not other locks, no deadlocks. I was looking for the most pick proof lock thinking picking would be the most likely way in. Now I learnt about snapping dear god.
Holding in a vice is not the same as in the door, so the demo was pretty useless. The remainder of the lock wouldn't be accessible to grips inside the door
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This is a BS 1 star lock vs Ultion demo video... both in a door.
ua-cam.com/video/j6H1v1dFPMI/v-deo.html
I come across these types of locks that have been snapped on a regular basis when doing burglary repairs... worse still, many of the victims bought these locks believing they would prevent such an attack.
West Yorkshire police advise minimum BS 3 star with good reason.
Help Locks in your experience does a 1 star lock plus a 2 star handle really equal 3 star protection?
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If your asking, would a two star handle & 1 star lock combined keep an intruder out long enough to pass a 3 star test, then yes.
If you are asking for my preference, then I always advise a 3 star cylinder.
What a load of nonsense. You are snapping the lock with a part of it that is deep inside the door, that's the whole point of the sacrificial part, if they do bend the handle up to expose maybe 10-15mm or less of the end of the cylinder, unless they dig out another 30mm or more of the door, they won't be able to do what you just did.
Hi I've snapped a good quality anti snap lock but I can't turn the barrel now and it's too hard to drill! what do I do I'm in the trade but have never come across this previously
It would be irresponsible of us to answer this here...
@@Helplocks good answer.
love to see you do that in a door!!! you showed us nothing! why dont you upload a video showing how easy it is to buy and use the brisant ultion pick. hands up who has had a key stuck in an ultion and had brisant blame it on the lock case!!!
just watched an ultimatehandman showing it done on a door.
Ok a good demonstration of why you shouldn't buy 'cheap' anti-snap locks, but you didn't go on to explain why BS 3* or Diamond Standard locks are better. Are they more resistant to snapping? Do they use other techniques/mechanisms to foil intruders once snapped? By how much longer would they typically delay a thief vs. the cheap locks?
zzpza we have other videos on our channel that cover all of this... you can also visit helplocks.com for information...
I want advice. Yale platinum, and avocet, apecs AP or brisant ultion? What's the best?
Paul Woodburn all of the locks you’re mention are diamond grade ( assuming you were referring to Avocet ABS or ABS Attack)
We supply & fit the Ultion & the ABS Attack. I prefer that the key code is on the key of these locks rather than a key card like the others. Ultion also has the £1000 manufacturers guarantee.
@@Helplocks can you explain why do you prefer key code printed on the actual key? Isn't there a risk associated with these that anyone who has this key can order a copy very easy? Like painters, child minders, contractors etc?
Mickey Rourke when you’re Lock is fitted, you register the lock code to activate key control. Thus means you will be notified when a key is ordered and asked to authorise it’s cutting. Keys won’t be cut without your knowledge & authorisation.
This is better than key card as these so often get lost. With codes on the key, so long as at least one person has a key, you can get new keys cut.
I thought the vid might show a comparison showing how or why the 3 Star versions are better, so no use really, especially as a vice is nothing like a door.
We have done other videos that take an in-depth look at the TS007 Sold Secure Diamond grade Lock (Ultion) in detail...
Locks snap in doors as easily as they do in a vice. We have other videos showing this also.
@@Helplocks Okeedokee thanks I'll have a look. Have you any experience of the Federal High Security Euro Cylinder locks?
The Kwaze yes, we came very close to stocking them.
@@Helplocks They make great claims, but don't seem to be very popular, possibly because of the cost being on the high side for a relatively unknown brand.
Think Ur after business myself. I have the ultion locks and like someone else said you have snapped the middle of the lock which is in the door and when the snap lock is snapped there's a part that stops u getting any further so your only after trade that's what Ur after nothing less and U urself would charge £60 to fit the lock what a load of crap . I have an ultion on the front and I have to register the keys with Ur address to stop keys being cut and I have a Yale on the back along with a cane corso dog who don't like strangers lol
I store 6 mill in cash at home. I need the best lock possible
What's your address I'll come and check it for you
Do any thieves lockpick their way into properties?
There is no evidence to support the idea that burglars pick locks.
Snapping is by far the most common method, even when the door is burned it is a snap attack.
@@Helplocks it's shocking how easy it is for professionals to pick thick locks. I've seen youtube videos of people getting in within 10 mins. Loxkpickinglawyer has opened these "high security" euro cylinders in 30 seconds. Euro locks are a standard now, they didn't expect people to just snap locks open when they designed it. I'm thinking of changed the door over to a regular door so I can install multiple locks for extra security. I want a deadlock in the door.
It's a good thing that thieves haven't learned to lock pick into properties.
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All locks have ways of being picked, not just euro cylinders. It’s not a technique burglars use as its far more skilled than UA-cam videos would have you believe...
Make sure your cylinder is a TS007 3 star, Sold Secure Diamond grade lock
Try doing it in a door next time
Sorry but this video is a sham to get you to spend money. In the test he put the grips all the way over the sacrificial line which would be impossible, but even with doing that the lock still performed perfectly snapping at that point. The second part where he grabs what’s left to snap the lock is impossible to do in a door. The 1st locks will protect you against snapping and lock picking never happen in a burglary attempt as far as I have soon in my 10 years as a locksmith.
1 star locks are NOT tested for snapping!
They are only tested for bumping, drilling & picking. Many 1 star so called sacrificial lines fail & even if they don’t, they are far easier to bypass than a diamond grade lock or 3 star.
@@Helplocks bypass would only be true on a thumb turn and even then there are plenty 1* locks that are not possible to bypass or bump. My main point was that the demo you did to show how they fail is very misleading.
@@GxAxV it’s not misleading, they are not tested for snapping! You can not sell a 1 star as a solution for snapping…. Therefore, your opening comment that “this video is a sham to get you to spend more money” was way off. You also said “the 1st locks will protect you against snapping” simply not true! There are a couple that are decent like the Yale superior & Malenco Magnum but other than that, I would steer well clear of 1 star for a solution for snapping.
The only miss leading thing in the video is a 1 star lock branding itself as “anti-snap” because it has a sacrificial line that has not been proven to prevent entry for a two minute attack…
@@Helplocks in your video even with the handicap you gave yourself trying to grip the cylinder past the sacrificial line (which would be impossible in a door) the locks still performed perfectly as advertised. They are indeed anti snap just as much as they are anti pick tested or not is irrelevant. If I showed any locksmith this video they would have the same opinion as me and that shows in the comments too. What’s worse is the promotion of ultion cylinders which have a reputation of failing with normal use because of the anti snap measures they use. I have a whole album full of failed ultion see it old style or WXM they are the same problems.
@@GxAxV I don’t know what else to tell you
TS007 1 Star are not tested for snapping
It’s not my opinion, it’s a fact!
Get as many locksmiths as you like to disagree & they would all be wrong!
I have been locksmithing for many years but I am also a Home Security product trainer… I train police forces & just last month military police. I don’t coach anything that is not fact based….
In vice please , bs do it in a door
This video was such a bad idea does not reflect well on your company. Snaps lock in vice not in a door proves absolutley nothing ! this worthless and deliberately misleading performance after refering to other companies whom carry out rogue practices.