How to measure and change for 3 star lock cylinders and why
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Following many many question over on instagram, I have put together this video to show how I measure and changed my lock to 3 star lock cylinders
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Great Video!, We say all the time its such an easy thing to do, literally takes 2 mins ! thanks for sharing
It really does, hopefully we can raise the awareness and the need to change your locks.
Fantastic advice mate. Took your advice and went to b&q this morning and bought the Yale lock and handles. Only took me an hour to do but I had to drill the plastic door slightly to get the new handles in. The hardest part of the job was getting the plastic shrink wrap off the shiny new handles. Cheers
Thats great to hear.
Great video, just had my front door lock fail, the key would not turn far enough to come out when locked. Managed to work out the size and all was well.
Big thanks, this video was very helpful.
My existing lock has worn out. The upvc door is old and thicker on inside. The lock comes out a small amount but not too much. The outer part is 37mm from center and inner part 91mm. I'm not sure what size to buy. Your video has made me feel positive for replacing the old lock. Cheers jo
I would suggest rounding up to the nearest size. Normally they go in 5mm increments.
Hi chap ,
We have just been burgled (whilst in the house up stairs ) ,and our locks were snapped in seconds , I cannot recommend enough to fit new anti snap locks ,the psychological damage to me and my wife has been traumatic,we have not slept a wink since ,be safe everyone,
Hi Thanks very well explained.
I can see the screw holding the cylinder in place on one of my French doors, but the other door of the pair has a diferent type of plate on the edge where the lock is. How do I get to the screw holding the cylinder in place on this door please?
Hi
Mine was the same, I had to remove the plate to give access to the screw for the lock.
@@DIYJourney1 Thank you for your help.
I've bought a Yale anti-snap cylinder and the nodules and preventing it from going into the hole enough for the screw hole to align. It sticks out too much on the outside. It's very hard to find information online. I wish I'd bought an Ultion now.
I had to cut those off when we had Yale at the old house. Good locks but not sure why they have those on. Id suggest taking back and possibly getting Ultion or ABS locks as much easier to work with.
@@DIYJourney1 I think I might just do that. I can't see what function they perform. Thanks for the reply.
@@DIYJourney1 I've just found out they are to make it more difficult to pull the cylinder out of the hole as the nodules will catch on the back of the exterior door handle. Yale also says they can be filed down if the cylinder can't be fitted because of them. So, that's what I will do.
Why carnt the lock be inside the handle slightly? Thanks
Id say more aesthetics than any other reason, but also in a normal handle being as flush as possible offers support
@@DIYJourney1 thanks for the reply. As long as it doesn't compromise on security which i was worried about, then I dont mind it being sunk in about 1 or 2 mm. thanks
You get more water ingress into the handle which will end up going into the door,which will cause early failure of lock mechanism.
What is the formal name of lock cylinder in which the bolt can be rotated 360 degree?
How do you fit a turn button on the inside of the door instead of a key ??
You just need to buy that type of lock cylinder. The measurement principle still applies.
Get yourself a Patlock for those French doors could be a good idea!
Certainly is if you don’t have 3 star handles
@@DIYJourney1 Worth buying one anyway, any lock can be drilled out with a powerful enough drill but short of smashing both glass window panels I can't see how you could ever remove a Patlock. I think they are fantastic defense for a French Door fitting.
Absolutely, but with a suitable security lock, they cant be broken.
@@ChanesmynameUltion handle 2 star Plus has internal snib which works in the same principle as Patlock, stopping the handle from going up or down even if lock cylinder has been defeated.
@@DIYJourney1sorry for being pedantic but the current highest security rating for a door handle is two star. The Ultion two star Plus handle (with the internal snib, which you seem to have on one of your handles) is a good additional security feature but the handle security grading is still two star. Good video you have done & hopefully makes people aware of the issue & how to change their cylinders!
How much did the lock set you back?
Depends what you require but £55
@@DIYJourney1 Ah that's reasonable. Just doing some research, I've seen the Yale Platinum 3* is £52 (Or £30-£40 on Amazon). Is that for the standard Ultion or the WXM? I've also seen you can get the same key cut for multiple locks, but this seems like a inherently bad idea in the event of theft? What are your thoughts?
Hi, thanks a million, fantastic to know I should look for a shorter cylinder. Makes so much sense. Glad I found your video before I bought my locks. Cheers, and best wishes. Cathy, in Ireland.
Anti snap.. Wrong
Anti bump. Wrong
Anti pick.. Wrong
Anti drill.. Wrong.
It just takes a bit longer.
Ultion are shite.
They continually lock up on a customers door.
…someones had a bad experience 🤣🤦🏽♂️. Unfortunately I can’t account for your experiences, only my own 🙂
@@DIYJourney1 there's plenty of locksmiths that will agree with me, as we work with them weekly.
I'm just saying they can be picked quite easily and the older version bump.
They're not my go to 3 star.
Concise and simply explained. Well done. Subscribed.
Looks like a Utilion handle, current ABS Avocet user, but following new doors I've got to replace the cylinders again, thinking about these handles too. Utilon or ABS locks...
I got Mine and when I installed it - it get stuck when trying to actuate it, as if something getting stuck in lock mechanism
which 3star cylider lock is best? i need to replace in my new flat
I cant really comment as only used 3 brands and all worked no issues in my experience which was Yale, ABS Avocet and Ultion. The ABS Avocet felt the best made.
Excellent tutorial. Shout out to you from Usa, California .
A locksmith fitted this lock for me after an attempted break-in.
He didn't change the door handle, though. Does this mean my door still isn't secure ? Can these locks be snapped as easily as others ?
Not necessarily, yes the 3 star locks can be snapped, but the mechanism goes in to “lockdown” as such, and the thief’s are unable to unlock it, like they would a normal lock. It just means you would have to buy a new lock if it happened, but they wouldn’t get in with that method of break in.
You appear to recommend Avocet but have used Ultion in your door?
Take from that what you will. I prefer Ultion and chose them.
Just like to give options.
Great video mate, where did you get your ultion locks from?
Hi,
They are from Euro Secure. If you drop sales@euro-secure.com and mention DIYJourney10 you should receive 10% discount also.
Hope this helps.
@@DIYJourney1 hi, is this code still active? 😊
Hi, As far as I am aware, if you send an email to sales@eurosecure.com they should be able to accommodate.
thank you rob australia
Thumb turn inside is far safer in the event of fire..
You’re correct 👍🏼 …however, much less safe if someone can get access to it from the outside via glass or letter box. Other measure must be considered also.
Is an oval cylinder lock slightly smaller than an euro lock...my cylinder I bought for union lock is too big..
Hi, does it matter if the lock protrudes a few millimetres on the Inside of the door?
Hi,
I would say not, however I would personally go the next size up, and protrude out, so the handle give some support to the lock cylinder.
Only insomuch that it f it protrudes more than 1 or 2 mm, it presents a profile that is easier to snap, though burglars will destroy the frame around the handle.
You MUST always ensure that your Euro Cylinders are 3 Star Diamond, the best by far are Ultion (www.ultion-lock.co.uk), these have anti-drilling and snap protection, together with a triggered defence against physical intrusion built in. The company offer sophisticated SMART Solutions too and all of their locks have a ‘Same Key’ ability where subsequent barrels utilise one secure key pattern, the keys are not conventionally cut and can are registered with and only be supplied by Ultion and their dealers.
Certainly worth a little extra outlay over thenChinese garbage on eBay!
They aren’t cheap compared to the mainstream but are so secure that company guarantees them with a substantial financial guarantee.
Great video thanks for your time mate 😊
Since it's easy for a burglar to snap a handle and gain access to a cylinder, do you think it would be a good idea to weld the outside handle to the door instead of letting it be fixed by screws? Provided that you can still change the cylinder when needed by removing the plate that's on the inside of the door and then removing the cylinder from the inside.
If you have a metal door I suppose you could. Most residential doors don’t tend to be metal, more composite or pvc. Does seem a little extreme, for the sake of a £45 lock that can be replaced. If you combine it with 3star handle too such as the ‘Sweet handles’ it would help minimise the risk
Hi, very knowledgeable video, can I ask where do you recommend to purchase Ultion locks? I’ve searched online and seems the sites I’ve found requires a quote from them. Thanks
Hi,
What Iv found is thats what you have to do, Iv bought from EuroSecure.
Don't,they are a pile of junk.
Please comment with constructive comments that help with facts.
@@DIYJourney1 I have, ultion cylinders are rubbish, Brisant bare also being arseholes with key blank supplies.
Again, that does help people as to why they are rubbish. I have had various Ultion locks over the last 6 years with zero issues. The iv also had ABS and Yale with no issues.
The less it protrudes the better, these locks are all made in 5mm increments so that’s variable. The locks are not always symmetrical and measurement mostly differ from outside to inside so measuring is vital!