Is Pokemon Taking Ideas from Fakemon?
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2022
- Pokemon Scarlet and Violet have introduced quite a few Pokemon that bear a HUGE resemblance to some Fakemon.
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Honestly I think that the fakemon community is so prolific that it's more every idea has been done somehow
This
Your the perfect voice of reason always remember that in 4 years when some guys makes a vid about Pokemon copying fake mons remember you know better then them ok. This is the greatest take I've ever seen
a two headed pepper pokemon? that looks mean?
Yeah this is kinda how I think about it. There are innumerable fakemon.
@Road Runner there’s like 5 pepper digimon as well
If you gave infinite monkeys infinite typewriters...
They will write waluigi hentai
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They’ll eventually write Shakespeare?
@@kiwimations2053I like your train of thought.
@@nash6568 and they will make everything else
Junichi Masuda has said that Game Freak is prohibited from looking at any fakemon designs because they don't want them influencing their designs and causing legal issues. So anything that looks like a fakemon is a coincidence, which is hard to avoid considering the amount of them.
wouldn't the poeple who made the fake mons technically have the problem? I'm not 100 percent sure how'd that go and if it's bad on nintendos end throw a bit of cash to buy the design
He dorsnt work at game freak anymore it seems and new artists have taken his place
So that rule probably doesnt exist anymore
So the artists arent allowed to look at community designs, end in their free time?
Just because that rule exists doesn't mean we should automatically assume they're all coincidences. All of these designs are so damn close to the original that I have a hard time believing it's just a coincidence
@@CanopyDplus you can't control what people do outside of work let alone what just happens to come across their feed
I made fakemon back in 6th grade that I named "Chewtal" it was metal rhino, so completely different, but seeing that name become an official pokemon gave me legit whiplash
I have a similar experience but for Zelda, I was talking about this idea that you could like craft armor or whatever and one of the things I said was frog armor made from frogs, which everyone said was a dumb as shit idea and would never happen
Ignoring the crafting part, we have frog armor now and I genuinely starting laughing hysterically
Its called Chewtle, not Chewtal
@@zeldzamezeeslak6082 I know, but it was pronounced the same
Lol
@@zeldzamezeeslak6082you can’t read
It’s the Simpson effect : with so many officials and canon design some are bound to be similar.
there's no way the burnipper one is a coincidence. they're almost identical
@@fl3m1n9o4 ever seen peppers before because that looks like the base idea behind the design
Agree! It's rough to be original when there's SO MANY ideas out there
@@myroncainepeppers don't stand on 2 green legs and lean forward
@@literallygrass1328yes but the design of pepper monster with two head is very much not original
If they were we would have gotten a good dunsparce evolution
Nothing tops drasparath in blazing emerald as a dunsparce evolution
Nah, yall tripping if you want pokemon based on rare but useless yokai to be not useless
no, dunsparce becoming an awesome dragon SUCKS
@@Ilikecatsl0l Dunsparce literally isn't a dragon, it has no ties to one
dudunsparce slander!?
So what I’m hearing is: when GF releases new Pokémon, you can retroactively go back and look for fakemon that resemble them, since there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of them on the internet, and statistically you’re going to find several that are similar.
Which isn’t really new info, but I guess not everyone has thought of it
That heart/dolphin/superhero with multiple forms does seems like plagiarism, to me.
Almost all of these are so spot on that the claim of coincidence is silly. If a fakemon artist did this the other around, it would be clear as day to you what's happening.
@@hobragenThe fake mon isnt a super hero, its a one stage evo, and its not really that similar besides the heart.
@@imgoldsyoure insane
Actually if you read the text on the image, it very clearly says that the buffed up version is its "Inflated Form" @@imgolds
I think most are coincidental. With how many millions of artists are out there creating fakemon, you're bound to have SOMETHING similar. The only one I see as suspicious is the Burnipper.
And even then, the concept for Burnipper and Scovillain isn't something very wild and unique, it's something anyone could come up with given the right amount of time
@@eeveeofalltrades4780 Yeah but being bipeadal with 2 diffrent colored heads is way two close not to be a coincidince.
@@arachnihood7887 It probably is. It's a very simple idea for a pepper that's a villain.
@@arachnihood7887 Also, Pokemon might take inspiration from the idea, but they execute it a bit differently
No gamefreak follows their communitys very closely this isnt a coincidence and really the one with the two heads is basically a copy and past job with 2 things changed
It’s almost as if when there is millions of fan designs going around, one or two might just get close to an official one by coincidence due to similar inspirations
Yeah but that would never happen
Still, gamefreak do not allow their artists to inspirate their designs in fanmades.
Came to the comments to say exactly this.
@@Danny4bidden bro they didn’t steal anything there is millions of Pokémon fans the chance for an official Pokémon and some fan art to be close resemblances isn’t that high, also Palifan’s origin is a Brazilian folk tale
@@Web.headGames
Dude, i'm aware of that. I'm Brazilian.
the dolphin one is coincidence because the concept is about a Brazilian folklore.
I would love to know more about this! What is the folklore?
@@PragMagik the name is "Boto cor-de-rosa" It's about a pink river dolphin that turns into a human to impregnate married women.
@@dieselboy.7637 Interesting! I will say, that doesn’t exactly cover for the prominent heart placement in the design.
@@PragMagik but about him turning into a muscle Dolphin
@@dieselboy.7637 it covers one aspect of the design for sure! Just saying it is interesting that even with the inspiration in mind the hearts in the design are a suspicious choice
And people are mad at Palworld for their designs
Wait till they see a zoology book 😂😂😂
Let's be honest, with THOUSANDS of people making new designs everyday, there's bound to be at least a few accidental copies.
The Palafin one is a pretty big coincidence though.
@@abryn6864 i mean they are based on the same mith
@@Arveral... I ain't saying that it was art theft, just it's way more specific than the other examples.
@@abryn6864 i didnt say that but they based on the same myth about dolphins morph into handsome men known as “boto encantado” to seduce and impregnate womenfolk by night.
Anyway u try to do It its gonna look similar
@@abryn6864 thats what a coincidence is though......its a coincidence that the fan and offical team used the same myth(even though alot of pokemon are from myths and shit), so if anything, the fan only predicted a offical pokemon
The Muscle Dolphins actually seem to be something in Brazilian Folklore, so that explains that.
Not really, in the Brazilian Folklore the Dolphin Tale is about a dolphin who turns into a man to have sex with unmarried woman, nothing about it being Muscular.
I can confirm that
I’m making a brazil region so I might have to take that Idea as well (I’m joking about taking the idea btw)
@@thepugking4 If you are gonna do a Brazilian Region there should be a Reference to the Boi Tatã, a fire snake than can paralise people, could be a Legendary or something
@@Unknown_Threat I will, right now I only have one that is a spilt eve with one of the eves is based on the lobster claw plant and of course because of that a water, grass type
There’s always the chance that some ideas simply “write themselves”. The Tarountula comparison here gives me the most vibes that two creators simply hit on the same idea of a spider wrapping itself in silk. It’s a pretty natural idea for a spider.
Jesus, this was not at 1k likes a few hours ago.
Convergent inspiration 🤔 Like convergent evolution but with ideas
Yeah that one is a stretch for sure, the connection between spiders and weaving goes all the way back to Ancient Greece and probably even before that
Couldn't have said it better myself
@@Navarroonn I was just thinking about how this idea should have a name and that REALLY works.
Hell, Rahkna-Kadaki's babies have a pretty similar design to them too. (Monster hunter rise spider monster)
Back when gen 3 was still new, I made a sketch art for a haunted tree Pokemon. It was more or less a haunted tree with red eyes and clawed branches for arms. And then in Gen 6 we got Trevenant, which was pretty much a dead ringer for my random sketch save for arm location and the number of eyes it had.
I wish they would've taken more inspiration from fakemon for sunsparce's evolution...
It's almost inevitable to repeat creative ideas. I was thinking about developing a game with an animal as main character in a post apocalyptic world and all of the sudden "Stray" was announced
Yeah exactly. Actually me and my friend was concepting about a new region for pokemon that has huge crater and a crystal moves with "old" and "new" pokemon. It was like years ago... Then gen 9 happens. 🗿
Develop it anyways
@@theyeastwiththeleast4718 of course, I will. It's not quite the same. Just the general concept. The inner idea is very different
I came up with the idea for Ben 10 as a kid in the 90s.
I called it Watch Warriors.
It happens. People aren't as original as they think.
And stray was inspired by another game set in Kowloon. Adaptation, inspiration and incrementation are all just part of the artistic process
According to James Turner, official Pokémon designers are not allowed to look at Fakemon. This is likely to protect TPC from potentially facing legal trouble if a new Pokémon looks a bit too similar to a Fakemon. This means that either these were all coincidences, this policy for some reason has changed, or that some designer has gone rogue.
I can imagine the designers accidentally coming across fakemon, they'd legit have to avoid to the internet to not see anything which I doubt they force their employees to stay away from the internet lol
So essentially the policy is more of "don't look for it on purpose and any you see, you have to avoid creating something similar".
But yea these are all likely coincidences nonetheless
No wonder official pokemon pale in comparison to fakemon, all the cool designs were taken so designers are forced to not use them. 😭
@@testerwulf3357 well to be fair it's also dependent on what you are looking for example I personally have never seen a short or even a video beyond a clickbait thumbnail of "new fakemon designs" besides this video before so unless you REALLY watch Pokemon alot or are into fakemons the chances of such a niche thing being drafted up and randomly recommended to you is slim
They’ve all gone rogue.
I honestly think it's probably more like coincidence.
They might have done some accidental copies though...
Like, maybe they once saw a Fakemon and years down the line, the idea was in their head and they believe that it's their own....
Like, these Fakemon are often easy to see one day but hard to find
There’s so many Fakemon on that it is inevitable that Pokémon will eventually use concepts or ideas that the fans have used.
Just so you know, scarlet and violet have been being developed since sword and shield’s release, so some of these could be pure coincidence, since we don’t know what was made when. I’m not saying that Pokémon couldn’t have copied any fakemon designs, and also saying that I think of designs are bound to overlap one way or another somehow eventually.
9 gens in, 25+ years on fanart, bound to come across similar ideas by now
Yeah, ok but these are fakemon designs from the past couple years.
@@RubiixCatgf devs start making plans and ideas for the next game as they are developing the current one
@@RubiixCat then that solves it as Pokemon Scarlet and Violet Mons were made several years ago so it is more likely that the fakemons were copying Pokemon
I make art and write a lot privately. There have been many times that I have come up with something I feel is very original but sometime later an officially published work has something that would appear "copied" if I had ever posted my stuff. It's inevitable as the internet allows us all to be influenced by the same topics and trends. So it would be hard to prove the pokemon were really copied.
I think that scary sometime
This JUST happened to me lmao😂 been writing something, consumed a piece of media last night and BAM there was my character! Same back story, same race, same country of origin- it's a wild thing when you create something and then see something so similar
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I think a lot of these are just "nothing new under the sun" kinda things, I don't think they actually saw any of the fakemon, when there are that many pokemon and they need to make more of course at some point a good couple will probably be very similar to an idea that someone else has had before
I'm sure they're not doing it intentionally. They might just have been scrolling around pokémon post on Twitter to see what people who are saying and they came across some fakemon and the ideas got in their head in there unintentionally drew something inspiration
Lets make a fairy fire froslass concept so that they make that.
I want a Fire/Fairy type
If you have a community thats oversaturated enough with ideas, then yes, there is going to be overlap lmao.
This same sorta thing happens a lot in music communities as well.
exactly there’s like millions of people creating millions of pokemon everyday including trying to guess new pokémon like that do they expect 😭
And these coincidences sometimes just happen.
2 comic strips came out on the same exact day with the same exact name. Dennis the Menace. And that was in 1951.
Many of these are concepts that anyone can come up with. I draw fakemon and I cant count the amount of times I have started sketching a concept and then found out that someone else drew it first.
i mean, the Fakemons all look better than the released versions imo
@@JakalTalk eh it's 50:50 to some look good some look mid compared to the official
@@JakalTalk I prefer Finizen over that fanmade one. Much cuter
@@hasshenjo6416 at least, the FIR/GRS fan-made version is better than the OG
@@JakalTalk that’s entirely subjective
I dont really like to think of it as stealing ideas from Fakemon but more like getting inspired by them
You guys make so many ideas it is hard not to have at least some resemblance.
I feel like after about 1000 pokemon being created along with hundreds of fakemon, there are going to be some look-a-likes. I myself created two knight pokemon for sword and shield, both coming from the same base form and being version exclusives. Even though I did not share these online the knew amorouge and ceruledge still look strikingly similar.
btw there names where stoknight and gladiacier.
@@That_OneGuy46 those are the same names a youtuber used
i would be proud if i was you, they basically implemented your fakemon in a way.
this I agree with full heartedly, I mean the middle one there could be an argument for potential stealing but the first one and the last one could honestly been someone's creative thinking that happened to coincide with another person's creative thinking.
@@windrider5611 the first one are both based off of Brazilian folk more
it’s hard to come up with new concepts all the time so i’m assuming it’s coincidence
I don't get how there's an issue even if it wasn't coincidence. It's a compliment and if pokemon can't use them just making fake mon and publishing is taking away actual amazing pokemon
@@cheeseyfrys6935 its an issue because they make thousands of dollars of these games and theyd be cheating their fans by stealing their art for pokemone designs without so much as asking for consent or offering any compensation. This would be far beyond a "compliment."
@@pinkmoonrabbit2072 I mean ok, but if you want to go that route these people are only known because they use existing code, assets, game designs and game play features owned and developed by Game Freak in order to make "their game". There's a certain point where people who make mods (because at the end of the day that's what they are) without legal authority over their work cannot reasonably say "but I made it" while using a game someone else made.
@@alexzander7629 these aren't in any game these are just designed. And even when they are THEY don't make money off of it. It's the same thing as an anime being abridged. It's non profit but that intellectual property added by the new creator is still the creators property. They can not take those designs of fake mon with our permission. They definitely have a lawsuit.
@@noemad5391 all the monster designs shown in this short are already in other form of media, they are basic monster designs and claiming GF design team taking fan designs as their own is an idiotic take imho
I did use to have a chili pepper Fakemon back in the day and it was also part of a two-stage evolutionary family with the evolved form being called Scovili which is VERY similar to Scovillain. My Fakemon were also Grass/Fire, but they looked nothing like Capsakid and Scovillain and Capsakid is pure Grass type.
I wouldnt be surprised tbh, it's hard to consistantly make 20+ pokemon for each region
GameFreak’s official rules are that the concept team cannot even go out of their way to try to see fan art, and if they do they’re supposed to forget it or ignore the idea
They can clearly break those rules
@@througheverything these are most likely coincidental, pokemon games usually are in the works for 3 years, a lot of the designs in scarlet and Violet were possibly made before or at the same time as these
@@Lizard154 The dolphin one especially is incredibly similar
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Burnipper and scovillian here seems like a coincidence. Peppers often grow with multiple fruits. Plus, a spicy pepper fire grass type isn’t very weird
Plus this is the first fire/grass pokemon, they likely saw the unused type combo and decided on the obvious idea for a fire/grass pokemon
Bro the heads are the same colour and the stance is the exact same: a little body with two legs and the two heads to the sides, NO ARMS as well(rare design) the coincidence is too much
@@daka.notatpit's red and yellow
Scovillain is green and red.
@@beckhampang191 please they’re like the exact same design. “Oh it’s slightly more yellow it’s totally different”
giving it two heads/faces on the same exact body is a bit much
I swear I saw a fakemon almost identical to Sprigatito
Pokémon has become so big it’s impossible that an entire generation can come out without resembling some of the millions of fakemon
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I think that if fans keep making 100s of fakémon every day, the themes will eventually and coincidentally overlap, especially when they take inspiration from the same source
This exactly. With countless designs from countless fans, designs are bound to match. GF had a policy of not looking at fan designs in any way possible to avoid cases such as this
I feel like this is a good thing. I would be pretty exited if a design I made was in a real pokemon game
I believe this is certified pokemon ran out of ideas
I'll say it again from the back: with all of the artists out there, all of the concept designs out there, and the lack of games or innovation we get in each title, we will always have similarities between official releases and fakemon. It literally cannot be avoided from here on out because of the amount of love we have for this franchise. I'm pretty sure I've seen a Salamance design a few years back that looks like the Scarlet version of it now
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Roaring moon is basically Mega Salamance mate
@@IAmDarklight81 I think its similar to mega aerodactyl and how it is was how it was thought to have looked before revival. I think mega salamence kind of reverts to a somewhat primal state which would explain the similarities between it and roaring moon and why mega salamence is so pissed all of the time.
Roaring moon is literally based on mega Salamence. It's even mentioned in lore. Worst example
@@schnitzler001 My example comes from way before megas were even a twinkle in Masadas eyes but ok, I understand the similarities for sure.
@@schnitzler001 yeah I think that guys braindead or sum
With so many artists pumping out new Fakemon design over the years, Pokémon Company/GameFreak are kind of stuck in an area where they can’t create new Pokémon without somehow having some similarities to Fakemon. It would be difficult for a company to keep track of all the Fakemon designs. Maybe that is why they started doing variants and new forms based on region. Could also be why the new designs have suffered a decline from a design perspective. At this point, I think it would be a great idea to purchase the rights to some of these Fakemon designs in the future and render them closer to the aesthetic design of Pokémon has in its earlier years. Then we’d really have a game build around the fan base and community.
Yeah, that would actually be awesome.
What do you mean the new designs have suffered a decline from a design perspective
Gen 7 and 8 Pokemons are the most thoughtfull when it comes to design all Pokemon in gen 8 are british new Pokemon designs are peak monster design
@@muhammetemiraydin1459 That’s what they’ve been saying every generation since 4.
@@han-df9mw yeah Pokemon fans really just can't handle new things
@@han-df9mw gen 5 was weak.
6 7 were very strong.
8 and 9 were pretty weak and weird. Not pokemon style at all.
Ive never heard anyone talk bad about x-y or sun/moon from a pokemon design perspective. Just difficulty/cutsceens.
The designs for gen 5 gen 8 and gen 9 are all really weird for pokemon
Pal world is indeed taking a lot from pokemon
If anything, considering just how many Fakemon there are out there, and how many new Pokémon there are in a new generation, I'm surprised there weren't more coincidental designs.
There are so many fakemon designs out there, so some are bound to end up looking similar to the real thing
Exactly, not to mention both official Pokemon and Fakemon take inspiration from real world Animals/Myths/Legends/Concepts
It's not like you can get mad Pokemon also drew inspiration from the same source.
I wouldn’t really say that, these Pokémon are based on folklore, and just happen to look similar
Also sandy shocks is a farther stretch than it’s legs
No kidding, one are ancient magnets an another is a floating pillars
@@a.u.t.057 that have the same concept like he said.
@@RoughnutOHoulihanRight? Like thats the one that is the most damning imo. Personally i think they look more alike than what people are saying. The basis is still there, a coagulated metal substance, a head-torso with two limbs that act as arms, even sets of singular eyes.
@@Brucifer2 They look semi similar I guess. The fact that they have the same concept is what actually drives his point. People refuse to understand that he never said they look similar but are conceptually similar.
@@RoughnutOHoulihan yeah, but it’s a fairly basic concept. Magnet pokemon + cool magnetic fluid. Same with scovillain: pepper plant, stands up, peppers become heads.
Honestly I think this is a good thing, as the community has some good ideas. For example, I’ve designed a Pokémon called Cubug (and no, I did not know about cubbug when I named it) and it’s a bug trapped in an ice cube. It’s stats are a little wacky though, with 300 in each defense, 100 in hp, and 10/5 in everything else. It then evolves into Flyce, which is the big broken out of the ice cube. It primary type goes from ice to bug and it’s stats go pretty even, being 70-100 for everything. But when it gets to half health, the ice breaks off changing the ice typing to the flying typing. And since the ice was limiting its abilities, it now has attack of 300 and speed of 200 with 10 of everything else (since the ice was also the only thing protecting it). They have the ability “irreplaceable shell” which makes they’re stats completely unchangable during battle through any method. I also made two other Pokémon called Flipswitch and Turnaround but they’d take too long to explain so I’m just gonna end it there.
Originally is rare these days.
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Palafin is based off the Boto Encantado btw. It's a coincidence.
That being said the Pepper one would take a bit more to convince me, but I can also see where two artists might pull the same concept for the pokemon as red and green peppers can be a connotation of ripeness and hot peppers are an obvious cross for a grass and fire type. The design is eerily similar but it's basic enough that I can believe two artists came up with similar concepts without one feeding off the others.
You say that like it changes anything. Like two designers look at the boto encantando and both instantly think to make a superman dolphin with a love heart on its chest and a muscly form which stands upright with its arms on its hips.
The individual posted his pepper mon in 2021. I guarantee Socvillain was worked on around or before the time he posted it.
Game Freak had two teams working on games. One was Arceus and the other would have been working on ScVi.
@@througheverything I'm not following what you are saying here. It sounds like you are saying the same thing I am. I don't think any of these were intentionally taken and used by game freak, just to be clear.
Edit: if you are saying you feel the Palafin fake mon is more likely to be ripped off, that's just my opinion coming through in all honesty, I feel that the pepper fakemon resembles Scovillain more than the Dolphin fakemon resembles Palafin.
@@darththeo yeah this just backs me in thinking it's a coincidence that these designs are so similar.
The Pepper one is the least convincing next to the last one, they both where made around the time the art designers at least had a bunch of concepts around or even finished Pokémons. And the last one have a basic concepts that was popular in 2020, the magnetic fuel.
Palafin is a concidence because its probably based on brazilan folklore,spider are often associated with kinnting duo ti string and such
it's so funny that everyone knows about brazillian folklore now. There is literally NOTHING about pallafin and brazillian culture. Stop spreading something u heard.
@@Kosuke001 It took 5 seconds to google “River dolphin myth” and I saw multiple results that talk about the dolphin transformation into a man to get women pregnant. Go be mad somewhere else.
@@Kosuke001 no i want continue to spread misinformation bcuz its funny
@@Kosuke001 dude i Was Born and Live in Brazil,the "boto cor de rosa" is a history about a Pink dolphin Who becomes an atractive man to inpregnate woman then leave,the "original" even is pink,im sorry if you dont know brazilian folklore,but the artist and gamefreak know.
@Andrés Mejía Paldea is based on the Iberian Peninsula, which contains Spain and Portugal. Brazil was colonized by Portugal in 1500, and to this day they speak Portuguese, lots of it's culture was inspired by Portugal :)
Edit: I meant around the 1500s
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First one looks like THAT Palword lizard thing.
Gave me literal flashbacks.
Speaking as an aspiring game dev, one of your greatest teachers is the community to which you sell, they know what they want and what they like
Kinda feels like if you take inspiration from the community, you should let people know where the inspo came from.
@@jesterday3965the individuals who design these pokemon aren’t even public knowledge or known by anyone outside of the dev team for the most part, nobody besides game freak, the director, and tpc get credit, period.
@@thundercracker07 the... You do know that GameFreak can make public statements right? They can state "This design inspired on of our creators to design this new official pokemon!". It's 100% within their ballpark to do that.
@@airestith5309 Anyone else does the same thing and that's called theft.
@@airestith5309 I'm not reading that you psychopath. There's such a thing called Creative Commons License, look it up.
My thoughts on this: Scovillain is a bit weird but everything else looks coincidental. Also, even if they took inspiration from a design or concept, I think thats a good step forward considering fan games are entirely frowned upon by gf
It would be pretty shitty though for the largest media franchise in the world to take concepts from an independent creator’s work without the creator’s knowledge, consent, royalties, or even acknowledgement. Especially if the design is going to be used to make a massive profit off of products made in the conceptual likeness they took from someone else. Now it’s not up to me to determine if this is actually what happened, or even if it is, if the creator legally needs to be acknowledged by the company for a design shared as a conceptual work for the company’s copyrighted series. Personally i think if this is the case, the conceptual artist should be recognized for their work, but I don’t know if legally the company can be held as guilty of malpractice in these circumstances.
But, i will say, would it really be all that unbelievable for gamefreak to do some things that are somewhat morally or legally dubious, anti-consumer, or disingenuous when it means making a greater profit?
Though, to be fair to gamefreak, i can think of one piece of contrary evidence; if they were doing this, plenty of the more recent designs would be a whole lot more appealing,
Agreed, the Scovillain one is damning
@@lonelybones279 taking concepts is completely fine and part of the natural creation process.
If no one could use other people's concepts we would never move forward.
@@austinb2177 the scovillain one is pretty easy to explain.
They made a green pepper bird. Added a red head for fire pepper add on.
It's literally a kiwi bird pepper plant with two fruits. Very basic design that's easily replicatable.
I would BE happy if they made my fakemon into a game
Dude this is the funniest thing I have ever seen, keep it up 😂
I made a grass cat starter and they made a grass cat starter, but my grass starter just evolves into a happyer higher weed cat
I mean, the weed cat memes did exist for a while.
At some point there will be two minds thinking alike, there are so many concepts out there what did you expect to happen?
Exactl, im sure theres at least 1 concept fakemon from the last 12-15 years somewhere online that resembles a new pokemon
And what fakemon are supposed to be pokemon that fans would love to see in a game
Someone out there has your idea. Like quantum physics or something. It becomes a race.
I honestly think coming up with a weaving spider pokemon is a natural conclusion
Homie took a stretch for his own work there at the end...
i thought the same. The only similarly is what pokemon its based on lol
They ran out of idea years ago when they made a keychain into a pokemon
I mean, my fakemon grass starter I never published to the public was a grass type cat, and two months after having that idea, Sprigatito was announced to the public
I think it’s coincidence. My pals and I, during the initial Pokémon mania in the USA were super nerds about it. We made our own Pokémon too. Most of them are now actual Pokémon. I drew and named Leafeon in gen 1 - exactly the same name and very similar art (mine had all the leaves Leafeon has, with the addition of a leafy mane). Some of our close creations include Mega Charizard (dark), Alolan Vulpix and Ninetales, Mimikyu (a ghost type that disguised itself as another Pokémon, like Halloween) and Mr Ryme (one of my friends was a huge Charlie Chaplin fan).
It may be coincidences as I doubt they go online and search up “Peppers” and get a two headed pepper pokemon
What if they search "pepper fakemon" instead of just pepper xD?
@@mikonyx7712 because someone said it’s against them to use fakemon concepts
That would explain why every new pokemon looks like fakemon now.
the dolphin was a rejected design for the original 151
Some of these look weirdly similar, yeah, but at the same time, they’re easy concepts to come up with. For example, the Alola starters have striking similarities to fakemon I came up with around 6 years prior. However, I highly doubt the designers were spying on 10 year old me’s sketchbook (that never got posted online lol). Grass bird or creature based on a real mythology aren’t exactly hard to think of.
When you have thousands of people throwing every idea imaginable at the wall, it's basically impossible not to make something similar.
you know Gamefreak doesn't even have 200 employees
@Hulk in Glasses I'm talking about the fans. People are vomiting out ideas left and right and picking all the low hanging fruit.
Eg The two pepper grass/fire idea is one I've been seeing and reading about since gen 1.
Gamefreak used the reverse uno card
I don't even know which spider was real
I never created it, but before S/V released I had an idea that there could be a Paldean Tauros (Fighting) that either evolves into Matauros (Dark/Fighting) or Muertauros (Ghost/Fighting)
The idea with this was that saying “you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain”. Also I was stuck between having Paldean Tauros as pure fighting or letting have the dark type too
Edit: I just now realized I accidentally predicted a gen 1 Pokémon evolving into a Ghost/Fighting type, it was just the wrong one, that being Primape evolving into Annihilape
Also him having 2 other alternate forms when you find a pack leader
@@shadowthief6471 I wasn’t sure if that counted since I thought they would have a split evolution
That just means fakemon artists have become inspirations to the actual Pokémon team. And that is pretty awesome.
Depends on your point of view, some could see it as stealing work.
*Mega Flygon flashbacks*
@@PragMagik Legally, there's no stealing taking place since the IP is owned by TPC and no fan can "claim" a pokemon design.
I personally think it would be cool if my designs were adapted into real pokemon.
Too bad the designs they stole are good
@@PragMagik Taomarin and Orangutao were in Pokemon Sage before Oranguru. This isn't the first time it happened.
Yeah yeah, billions of designs floating around, and SOME appear similar? What a surprise.
10000 of fakemon are pumped out every day, Pokémon only makes about 100 in an intire year
You didn't predicted Sandy-Shocks with Magnafluid but you did predicted Baxcaliber with Snoliath from the Cornera region. They even had the same types!
Game Freak Staff aren't allowed to look at Fakémon and if they accidentally come across one they have to pretend they'd never seen it. So all of those are just coincidences.
how do you know that
DM me, I've got a bridge to sell you.
@@hollychop6605 (If iv'e already replied i'm sorry but my laptops not showing it) search up Dr. Lava "The Dream is Dead" and it should be the first thing to pop up.
a fire grass pepper Pokémon concept has been around for a LONG while
To be fair the dragon chilly and spider web ones are pretty common ideas... The first one is impressive but the last one is ambiguous...
You mean if millions of fans make millions of fanart they may make designs similar to what official artists later come up with? What a coincidence! No! That's not a coincidence. It's a statistical inevitability.
There’s so much fakemon art that it’s hard not to make a Pokémon design without it being like a fakemon
This.
"I myself drew something that looks nothing like a pokemon they put in the game"
Mans just wanted to join in talking about "conceptually" bro stfu 😂
He really thought he could sneak his shit in 💀💀
i dont think he even drew it himself 💀
@@avalosp probably not, none of these poke tubers ever do, they just commission actually talented people to make their ideas look good
He said conceptually similar you warm toilet seat
Pokémon has stated in their TOS I believe that they have the right to use fanart but I could be wrong
Sure it's pretty cool if the fanbase can make fakemon and submit it to make it an official pokemon, but it's wrong to not credit the creater for it..
I always wanted pokemon to release a fakemon contest and actually include a few in the next game. I think that would be a really good way to involve the community
They sorta did for gen 5. But the sales probably made that idea never happen again.
@@qtpie1144 when did they do that?
I don't remember anything like this.
@@zack-ronald259 Trubbish and Vanilites line were made from a contest. I think a few more were but I remember because an american guy ironically won it.
Like I’ve said before, this has precedent in Capcom using fan Robot Master designs.
@@qtpie1144 Ummm… I’m pretty sure they were made by James Turner, who’s British and also works with the company. They were the first western designed Pokémon but in no way were they a contest as far as I knew
I submitted a fakemon back in middle school. It was a ghost fighting type I called Mirouge, meant to be a legendary. It didn’t look a lot like Marshadow, but when it was announced I was a little proud of myself. I don’t know if they took my fakemon to make it, but it made me feel happy that day.
Damn.
I have a marshadow in my party right now on TLFR. I really like the design.
“Pokemon may be taking ideas from the fakemon community”
Is the new
“Fakemon may be taking ideas from the Pokemon Community”
In 2012 there was a tumblr post about bee flies, the bug cutiefly would eventually be based on. I mention this bc in the replies/reblogs of the post, someone said that there should be a fairy type Pokémon based on it, and Cutiefly is a bug/fairy type!
Comunidade: queria que esse pokemon virasse oficial
"Pokémon company adiciona um Pokémon quase igual"
Comunidade: cópia😡
(É um meme, não leve a serio)
I hope this doesn't happen when I show my own fakemon to the world
They’re all close but the scovillain is a direct bite lol
If it's true, then it'd be ironic since they aren't allowed to look at fakemon designs as to not draw inspiration from them.
So basically Nintendo complains over people making fangames based on their games but they have no problem taking insipiration from fakemon. Hypocrasy at its finest.
@@Thunderblock7889 It isn't hypocrisy because they aren't taking inspiration from fakemon artists, like at all. Most of these similarities are either massive stretches, Sheer coincidence, or a case of Gamefreak basing a pokémon on the same real world the fakemon are based on.
@@seandewar47I do believe the ferrofluid fakemon and sandyshocks similarities are a bit of a stretch, but the pepper two headed little lizard, dolphin that transforms into a jacked anthro dolphin and the weaver does look suspiciously similar
@@eggseed6543 A Two headed pepper pokemon is far from an original concept, same with implementing lizard aspects. Both are insanely common design tropes
The Dolphin is a MAJOR stretch since they're based on completely different things, the Fakemon is based on river dolphins and the Encantado, a Were-Dolphin of Brazilian mythology with a love motif. Palafin is based on oceanic Dolphins with a retro Superhero motif.
As for the spider, Combining a ball of thread with a spider is just natural. Far from unique either
@@seandewar47 a literal two headed pepper pokemon that stands on two legs and share nearly the same body type? Kinda hard to believe it was a coincidence.
The dolphin too, the same concept of a dolphin with a heart crest that can transform into a anthropomorphic form is almost 1:1 in similarity. Seriously the only difference being the thing they referenced, besides that as a concept is literally the same
And yeah I can believe a weaver is a common idea to have but a weaver that weaves its string around its body in that way seems a bit too close to be fair
🤣🤣 flamigo literally took "inspiration" with the irl flamingo fr
Mfs really biting the flamingo style 💀
I’d say a lot of the time it’s just a coincidence but damn sometimes it’s suspiciously close
Gamefreak: "Yeah? And what you gonna DO about it, huh, punk?"
i remember seeing a deviantart post someone made of bewear before sun and moon even came out. im confused by it.
Pretty sure Bewear was revealed in a trailer
fakemon community: *create every design idea that could ever be thought of*
Also fakemon community when an official mon happens to match the design of a fakemon in the slightest way possible:
I had been working about an artificial Pokémon reserve in the middle of the sea where the most powerful trainers go to study and train Pokémon. Then the Indigo Disk DLC got announced.
That last one is a little Farfetch'd, but i do see it
Fan creations are basically the bane of pokemons existence. Every cool and awesome and unique idea a fan creates with their fakemon, turns around and stops the game devs from being able to use those ideas (even if the dev had no influence and managed to come up with the idea as well, because face it that happens) because of how the public will react to it
Fan designs are also a bane to Pokémon since the fanmade ones will hype people up for certain ideas, then the official designs disappoint as a result of those high expectations. Just look at what happens with starter evos
So what I’m hearing is we should just be sliding the ideas to the designers on the down low so that their bosses don’t know it’s not their idea, that way they get to draw off of fan ideas and we get to have cool pokemon 🤔
Yeah... thats basically the same with regions as well..
Like... we have so many different inspired Greek regions or Australian regions... that there is a very low possibility Gamefreak will actually make those countries actual Pokemon regions.
I hope people realize this sooner.
I think some of Gamefreak's team might have had some sort of realization that the artists have legal right over any post that uses the term "Pokemon" in it, or smth like that 🤔