"What we want to do is save humanity from extinction", Prof. Jeffery, Behavioural Neuroscience | XR
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- ''Heading for Extinction(and what to do about it)'' : The 'Why? The What? and The 'How?' of Extinction Rebellion's 3 Demands
This seminal XR Talk is written and presented by Prof Kate Jeffery, a Behavioural Neuroscientist at UCL. The lecture encapsulates Extinction Rebellion's raison d'être: the questions of 'Why? the movement has evolved, based upon compelling scientific evidence that global warming and ecological degradation are advancing, unabated: it is the truth being told of the unfolding trauma of the sixth mass extinction and ecocide as a direct consequence of human activity.
Prof Kate Jeffery explains what needs to be done to avert complete and irreversible ecological and societal collapse; Kate touches on the awe, shock and grief of when we, ourselves, are faced with the prospect of our own extinction through the line of future generations. Finally, we are presented with Extinction Rebellion's 3rd demand: on 'How?' this climate and ecological emergency has to be addressed through the collective, fully informed when the truth -be-told will of the UK citizenry, in the form of a national citizens' assembly.
''XR Revisions and clarification's footnote:
An inaccuracy has been noted that sea level rises of 'maybe 100m, possibly 200m' is stated, which incorrectly refers to the IPCC: Chpt 5; 430(48 of 82):430, Chapter 5 Information from 'Paleoclimate Archives.' In correction to this, XR notes that, according to the National Geographic: ''If we keep burning fossil fuels indefinitely, global warming will eventually melt all the ice at the poles and on mountaintops, raising sea level by 216 feet/65.8m approx. ''
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It's called Psychic Numbing. Dr. Helen Caldicott used the term in the 1970's to describe the same phenomenon regarding the nuclear arms race.
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If AGW is the ultimate science, why do your predictions always fail?
You would be speaking German and the ‘global south’ you love so much, speaking Japanese if it wasn’t for a nuclear arms race they didn’t win,
Outstanding presentation. Thank you!
Thank you for this amazing talk!
"A Wall between knowledge and actions"
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What we need to do is protect other animal species from nasty humans!
What we need is fewer humans.
The other species don’t care about you. We need to protect ourself and our environment equally, all other species should not go extinct but we do not need to put them first.
Why? It's completely normal for species to go extinct. New ones will evolve.
Why haven't you checked out, then.
@@Scepticalasfuk Start with yourself.
No one would get on a plane with the same probability of crashing that we have in crashing the planet and the natural ecosystems. Awesome talk!
Why? Many of us have been dealing with this ecological crisis for generations, land stolen and extracted for minerals or agriculture, genocide, our animals pushed to the brink of extinction,our labor exploited,we hunted down and mass incarcerated, many of us live in a world of exponential inequity. For which privileged beings shall we prevent this extinction? Why yell now? Why act now? Still not talking about a holistic justice. A reset will be such a relief and end this several generations long horror. Many, many of us are not interested in making mother earth habitable for the few while the majority of us still suffer and the legacy of west imperialism reigns in a new "green" iteration. Not hearing any narrative that speaks otherwise. Like Malcolm said, "chickens coming home to roost."
This is a really thought-provoking comments. Thanks Michele - quite right. Holistic justice or none at all, and end this planet-saving disease of the frankly blighted white folks (of which I am one)!
30:58 Democracy isn't the problem. We actually don't have democracy. If we did, governments would implement overwhelmingly popular policies, for example, in the US, single payer healthcare (which has over 70% support) and strict gun control (which has over 90% support). Many countries that claim to be democratic are actually plutocratic oligarchies, with a small number of wealthy individuals controlling (either directly or indirectly) the operations of government.
I'm inclined to agree with you. XR is for me a response to a crisis of democracy as well as the climate and ecological emergency.
Another major problem is propaganda. For example, in the US, people on the political left are aware of climate change and are overwhelmingly in favor of a Green New Deal. But on the right, people have been convinced by centrist and right-leaning media companies that climate change is either not important or not real, so people have no idea that it's even a threat. As a result, the polling on the issue is mixed.
@@jag7513 Yup. After all, if we had a functioning democracy, we wouldn't need citizen assemblies.
@@Beery1962 In my opinion that is correct. One might say that the House of Parliament ought to be the ultimate 'citizens assembly' already... but on the other hand, it is in part due to the need to have regular general elections that we have a situation where no government can make a long-term decision about climate. I don't think our parliamentary democracy would be improved by, say, having general elections only every 10 years (which still might not have been long enough for past governments to act, anyway). So I think it might be possible to hold the view that our parliament is democratic but needs special forms of democracy, such as citizens assemblies, from time to time, to meet the needs of longer-term problems.
But even that is probably too simple. It isn't only the climate crisis that is a long term problem, there are loads of others, too. One of them has to be corporate control of the press. Our democracy is significantly marred by the populist nonsense in the Daily Mail and the Sun, and although the left wing press is my more natural home, I think the Guardian is very able to be populist in other ways too. But blaming the press is also a little too easy - I have a PhD and much of that contained sociology and political philosophy and I have to admit that it is barely adequate for me to understand the ways that political ideologies work. I think that the world is more complex than most people are either able to understand or have a desire to try to understand. Ultimately I think we also need to blame our democracy for not defending itself in the last 30 years. There has been a predominant idea that political thinking goes nowhere, and politicians should abdicate their responsibility to lead by allowing the market to decide. I think I understand that some of this was pure greed, but much of it was also because in the 20th century we saw that political philosophies of various kinds seemed to do the world a lot of harm. So we thought that we could do without them... turns out that you can't. Unregulated capitalism seems to be eating itself to death.
If that is correct, then maybe it partly explains why we are so vulnerable... we have a generation people who have not been encouraged to think well, politically... as if politics is not relevant now. But even that is probably too simple because it implies that people were more clued up in the past and I'm not sure that is the case. Whatever the reality, I think it is true that the law currently does not protect the planet and that includes us. 50% of the wildlife on this planet has gone in my lifetime and no law existed to stop that and no law is currently being seriously considered to stop that. While that is the case, the law is quite obviously immoral and idiotic. I think it is therefore true that we cannot act to save this crisis within the law and that is why I am supporting XR. My aim in doing so is to get laws changed so that I can once again act within them.
I see that others here are saying that it is too late anyway. I think it may be, but if we all act as if it is too late then it definitely is. But in any case, we I think we still have a duty to act well even in the face of futility. After all, all human life ends but that doesn't mean that it doesn't matter how you live your life. That is how I see it, anyway. Whether I die in my 80's or I die early from climate related famine, I plan to live as well as I can.
@@jag7513 how do XR help the environment? Halting cars on the road (exhausting more fumes into the air) and halting trains (greener way of travelling and commuting)? Don't make laugh they're a bunch of hypocrites.
Thank you for your efforts, Dr. Jeffery.
beautiful and courageous thank you so much
Humanity needs to practice humanity, rise up to save humanity from the inhumanity inflicted by those without humanity & render them harmless, obsolete.
Excellent presentation!!
Self reinforcing feedback loops , the stuff of nightmares.
Self reinforcing propoganda. A massive worldwide circle jerk for people who aren't actually as smart as they think they are.
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@@InteractiveMediaXVI Citizen Robespierre!
@Red Leader Keep guessing fool.
@Ethan Hartstonge The great shame of all this is that they are scaring 13year olds like yourself into thinking there is no future for you.
Don't believe this until you have truly looked to what the other side is saying.
The GW agenda isn't as clear cut as they would make you believe the science isn't settled science is never settled by definition.
The world works like this buddy when ever someone wants to control you they will try and make you live in fear it is the most motivating emotion in all animals, once they have you afraid you will beg them for a solution. Then they have got you.
Yes follow science but don't be spoon fed just the science they want you to see, there are 2 sides to every story but these people won't show you anything that might disagree with their agenda or allow you to see outside the doom and gloom and apparent extinction that they say awaits us all.
Be happy go out have fun you are only young once, you will most likely grow to a ripe age and have a fulfilling life, the planet isn't going to be un-liveable in the next few decades like these people tell you.
Well done much obliged professor!
Is there a place where we can get these slides?
Excellent presentation delivered in language that anyone can understand.
For those looking for a real grass roots solution versus more politics, watch recorded lectures of Dr. Walter Jehne, Dr. Christine Jones, and Dr. Elaine Ingham, on soil carbon sponge, regenerative agriculture found on youtube.
Simply Human Thanks for this. Dr. Ingham ( my hero )and the other soil food web folks are offering what is the truth and the best option. Sadly, (I’m a disabled organic veggie farmer) the resistance to learning a new way of thinking and doing things. The same resistance I ran into decades ago when teaching and offering to help farmers and gardeners transition from “traditional” to sustainable organic farming methods. I’m surprised to see how many people are doing the big 3 major nutrients and ignoring not only the biology, but all aspects of even the micronutrients etc. Go to the Soil Food Web and start learning how to do the real work. Not only sequestering carbon, but true regeneration of our soils and the unfolding of improved life and where the people are that are making a difference. It’s with them and the young wherein our hope lies.
I took Dr. Ingram’s soil class a few years ago. A lot f great info that we have been incorporating into our garden and etc.
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Finding solutions to shared problems literally the definition of politics
Smoking grass roots that’s typical of you hippie cult activists!
I am an XR member in Santa Cruz, Calif. Thank you for recording this talk. It is great. My only concern is the word "citizen." Here in California, we have many "non-citizens" and I wonder what new word we can create. Some people use the word "denizen" or "people" or ????
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When I confronted the founder of 350.org in Port Ore acd I insisted a radical transition in the greater US agricultural realm must become a predominate cannibis/hemp farm universe he suggested its insignificance but thats not the Mayan prophesy 's purport!
When it all goes wrong I just get the feeling it will happen very quickly.We are not reacting to what is to come and when we do it is to late in my humble opinion.The Prof.Explains it very well but there is no certainty when only that it will happen the destruction on live on this planet.
When all the feedback loops are activated we will have a few weeks to months at most. No one has been able to solve The McPherson Paradox. Sorry, game over... for All of us, two leggeds, four leggeds and feathereds.
Max out credit cards and give everything away then, or you don’t have faith?
Your message isn't hitting the masses. I want to join, I want to make a difference to help our families future. Please advise me on how Others and I can help.
✌🏼👍👍💚💚 Thank you all.
Remember it's not climate change that is the problem.
It is the speed or rate of change. Right now it is 100,000 to 1 ratio.
That means human activity is changing climate that naturally occurred in 100,000 years
in less than 100, life can not adjust that fast.
That's the problem keep that in focus.
Rate of change.
Jerry
You should go with the mantra of, this is for all of our children. As of now, Homo sapiens could care less about their children. Turn this into something positive and you will have something.
(Thank You for Not Breeding?)
Les C. Gull there is such a thing as, manners.
@@Guitarpima
I think the time for that has now past - and I genuinely think the fucking enormous elephant in the room (whether you're a breeder or not) - - - IF YOU ARE REALLY SINCERE about BELIEVING all this,, is simply ,, Fuck Manners..
If this is honestly as much about "EXTINCTION" as you'd have all the kids and media/masses believe then NO ,, to hell with negating all the Child-Free Messengers as you all seem intent on doing. It just seems beyond deluded if you really believe yourselves. And the longer you fail to make our less pro-natal stance part of your message (I'm not anti-natal btw) the more hypocritical this entire movement seems. That is mere fact.
It's unfortunate but at this point the relatively new flash in the pan calling itself "Extinction Rebellion" need the likes of old-timers like Korda (C.of E.), Child Free, Stanhope (Incentive based Eugenics), Les U. Knight (V.H.E.M.T), my own,, and a wide swath of divergent beliefs (etc blah) WAY more than we need you and this latest placard waving nit-wit Thunberg Trendy-fuckin-Fan-Tard demographic. Then again whatever - go forth and multiply for mother nature,, live long / die / peace / out - [AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE CHILDREN] - (that's an 'Airplane' Gag)
Manners?
Bollocks -
We have to be cruel to be kind in the current EXTINCTION,, Your Words Not Just Ours, or perhaps you're as full of shit as most of us older timers know you are? Cue next Decade... NEXT. ua-cam.com/video/YkgDhDa4HHo/v-deo.html
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The graph at 8:31 looks more like 1.3 temperature rise rather than 1.1 degrees C. Is it reporting a rolling average or something?
The 2016 peak is not on the trendline. If she had 2 more years data, you see it dropped back to the trend in 2017/18. So yes the overall smoothed rise is about 1.1C. This is helpful to illustrate: csas.ei.columbia.edu/2016/09/26/a-better-graph/
jon dee It was much higher in1958. It fluctuates why are they doing this it is just another distraction what is really going on or what are they hiding that needs a red herring such as this ? Why do they want us to believe this crap. Another quango.
Good luck. Rebellion creates the mess.
Is the house really on fire? It took 8 years for the record temperature in England to creep up by a ½ of a degree. Is that runaway warming?
Emotional, knee-jerk policies are almost always counterproductive. What XR are asking for would require huge investment and infrastructure projects, really huge. There would be massive environmental impacts. And the money required would have to be taken away from other budgets. People would suffer. Cold kills far more people than heat, and nothing saves lives like prosperity, that is a
quantifiable fact.
It's that kind of attitude that has put the world in the situation it is in now. Just a few degrees in global warming is catastrophic. Few scientists disagree with that.
The graph at 11:24 has a time scale composed of sections with different scales pasted together, making the period of stable temperatures at the end look massively larger than it actually is. It really bears no resemblance to an actual graph of past temperatures with a consistent scale.
That is correct, it would be very difficult to show the full time line in the same scale. And as she points out - it doesn't change the fact that modern humans (at least since language was developed) has always lived in a climate and thus ecosystem without the levels of heat we are facing. Mind that several of the bigger deviations in the graph even earlier are also associated with global massinstinctions.
Welcome to the kullt, she claims to be a scientist but thinks the climate has been the same and never hotter for, and I quote, a million years... I never trust anyone with a karen bun who lip smacks like the villain in a kid’s novel to start with but this is absurd. She jumps between time frames when this is a millions of years situation, 100 years is a skin cell of data on an elephant.
You're the new god. Start rowing.
Everyone want's to prevent human extinction but nobody wants to lose their jobs....can you see the problem????
We need to bring capitalism to its knees. If we ALL stopped buying everything and anything for one day a week or two days a week we could do that!!!!
@@markcarlin9112 Tidy your room, bucko! zzzz....
How does saving up more capital bring capitalism to it’s knees? You need a dictator to lead an army that are promised the top jobs because you would do the job u are told to do and take what you are given.
If we know and refuse to take action at great cost to other species do we even deserve to survive?
It's not only our survival. If we make it through more other species will make it too. If we don't make it, things will have gotten, very very bad for other species.
@@Jimmy4video I see your point it will take a collective human effort to decommission polluting industry like nuclear, mining, some oil rigs and waste sites. Also some of our waste will have to be looked after for ages.
A species that shits in its food bowl is not only incapable of survival, it is unworthy of it.
You can start by doing Anything that slows it down climate change.
Now you have absorbed all the information from this excellent presentation, I would suggest you Google search ‘Global Dimming’, or alternatively ‘The Aerosol Masking Effect’........and prepare to weep.
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Wow everyone should know this!
Thanks for coming everybody? There is only 19 people there!? Lucky you videoed it. 🙄
I think say's saying we're not going to rise to the occasion. We are so enmeshed in our lifestyles, we're unable to change our course. Business and governments are addicted to money and power.. They may agree to XR's demands, but they won't change their behavior.
So I think the most important question you can ask yourself is "what do I want to do with my life if I only have 5 - 10 years left? Some suggestions (not in order of importance):
1. improve the quality of your life - only do things you'd do with a limited time to live. (the quality will improve as you shorten the
allotment).
2. disconnect from your electronic world - start with one day a week; spend some time with yourself.
3. read "How to change your mind" by Michael Pollan.
4. make a list of your regrets and a plan to get them off the list.
5. spend time with (or make new) friends who understand our situation (XR is a good place to start).
6. read "Tibetan Book of the Dead" or "Tibetan Book of Living and Dying"
It's possible that greed and hatred may feel so threatened by XR that they will try to extinguish it. If that is the case, XR will offer us a wonderful opportunity to die for what we believe in (a planet that supports biological life). And that's no trivial matter.
Wonderful opportunity to die... But it’s not a cult right? You are the one trying to wield power over other ppl by force and intimidation, it’s called fascism and it bypasses democracy. Saying democracy is broken so it needs to ben rid of, is like saying the law doesn’t always work how you like it so there should be no laws.
If we are governed by consent, how do I opt out?
I believe in the ecological crisis but getting the majority of people to make even the slightest change in their behavior is difficult
I'm in place where people deny overpopulation and climate change and my reaction is eh.
Very nicely done. A fine exposition of the problem and the proposal to try and fix it.
Just one mistake: You can't get 200m sea level rise - there isn't that much ice on the planet. 200 feet is 60m, which is about how much SLR you'd get from melting all the ice in the world, so perhaps this was a feet/m confusion.
And one quibble: People can of course live on a hothouse earth (she suggested it would be impossible for humans to live there). It'll be nice and tropical at the poles, but potentially far too hot in many other latitudes, so it'd be only a small fraction of current population, but not totally inhospitable everywhere. Civilisation would be almost certain not to survive such a transition of course.
The problem with capitalism is not that it doesn't cost the future, it's that it doesn't cost humans. Humanity is secondary to profit in capitalism, and profit is a direct product of exploiting humans. In short: Capitalism is the problem. Socialism or extinction!
Ok socialism, but I am the boss, you are a street sweeper, here is a ruble for your time.
Great smooth talk but you skipped latency heat coefficients which disappear with the polar ice cap producing an abrupt spike in temperatures, killing all life in barely a blink. A BOE does not guarantee extinction, but it does mean darn near everything dies PDQ.
You can start by doing Anything that slows it down climate change.
Start? I have lived off-grid since 2000 and since 2011 I use less than 1 gallon of petroleum per year. I don't own a car and I bicycle Everywhere I Go. How about you? When did you start using lesson 1 gallon of petroleum per year, and make all of your own electricity from wind and solar? I know that's a rough thing to think about oh, but I have faith you could do it if you set your mind to it. I've also helped over 400 people do it. It's not as expensive as you might think and the savings are enormous oh and it's good for the Earth.
Where do you get them all ? Asylum ?
What part isn't based on sound and solid science, according to you?
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Yes I agree with you.and demonstration is vital however we must look closely at the 2 main obstacles. Corporate capitalism and personal egotism. Corporate capitalism may be the easiest of these to defeat as we have examples from the past , roughly for instance the Czar of Russia abdicated in a railway sideing when the Cossacks refused to charge the crowd poor sod didn’t even make it back to St Petersburg . Mahatma Gandy pulled off a similar trick against the most powerful world power of the time. But who among us will happily not run the kids the 5miles to school when it’s raining?? Humph the weekly shop home when it’s freezing ect ect . This requires infrastructure,workable practical alternatives.
How will this turn out any differently than Brexit? From the USA, this looks like a annulment of the popular will. I missed the part where randomly selected people will serve. Are they to be drafted or conscripted? How does anyone become free of corporate influences? Wouldn't a random selection just fold in the people who are particularly vulnerable to corporate influence? I am a little skeptical of facilitated deliberation. In the US there used to be a theory that mentally challenged children could be trained by facilitated learning. It failed fair testing. In the USA we give our leaders a set time of wielding power but the parliamentary system brings the end of power to those who propose too much sacrifice too soon. If the other 96.5% of the population become disenchanted with the 3.5% of people who are engaging in the process, how will that be handled.? I think fair warning is given that the group plans what might be termed tyrannical demands on the majority by showing so much enthusiasm for war time sacrifice. If you disagree, are you a traitor? This movement seems to be taking on the flavor of the Children's Crusade. Nobody knows how many of the children ended up as slaves but I think there will be a revolt once people start to feel like tax slaves. I suggest you re-read Plato's Republic. Plato did not like democracy because the logical result was that the old people would take advantage of the young people. This is certainly happening in the USA. Also I remind you that the father of the leader of the Children's Crusade was lynched by the parents who lost their children to the collective madness.
Danny Newton The reasons against the US culture leading us out of this time of crisis resonate from the spaces behind your words... yours is a culture of duplicity and deception, with no ability to recognize wisdom arising from other cultures. I suggest that you prepare for the end of your empire status.
I don't think nonviolence is gonna wrest power from the rich soon enough to forestall extinction.
Why are there no Natives of Canada and America among the prominent leadership and spokespersons of Extinction Rebellion - perhaps you should appeal for the return of their children from schools, in order for them to Strike For Better Treatment, Recognition and Survival?
Do you know that if you don't safe humanity you will safe nature
Safe your money.
saving by accelerating destruction,
It is a shame that she is not a scientist - only a psychologist. We need proper climate scientists to havre input in these kinds of issues.
I want to leave a comment but I have so many questions that I dont no where to start 😔
You can start by doing Anything that slows it down climate change.
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@@InteractiveMediaXVI stop spamming
@@LuperSoop69 stop being an idiot
200 feet, not meters. Still horrific.
Climate is natural process and it should be. If developed nations control climate, they will dominate it. Than what happen to poor countries. They will face mass extinction, poverty, drought and extreme weather conditions.
Your activities in raising public awareness are well placed but somehow achieve minimum impact upon the political elite. You clearly need to widen your scope beyond demonstrating and Involve your talented academics in formulating and presenting to the House of Commons a viable economic alternative; an alternative that places everyone ‘on the same page’. This may ‘wet the appetite ‘ for a major shift in the current political stand-off - thereby elevating your cause for change. Activate your academics more effectively - have them solely present your views at the media interface so as to avoid professional journalists humiliating a non academic representing your group. Cheers
The house that used to belong to my grandparents was destroyed by the camp fire in Paradise
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Paradise was a haven for tweakers!
Wiping out humanity. Would that be such a bad thing?
No but we are on track to take most of the other life forms with us. We either change or most life will die as a result of us.
@ where did you get these magnificent insights? Lord of the Rings?
@@beesplaining1882 yea "most" all ,but not all and those that survive will renew the planet without humans, the earth will thrive, once the bad case of greedy human fleas have been erradicated.
@@pohakumana4288 so in another couple of million years the age of the insects will be in full swing! Great outcome!
@@beesplaining1882 you think humans would be around in a million years? LOL
This is great. Only why would anyone who is forced to struggle and lacks hope for a better future care about the climate?
Those who feel marginalized couldn't care less about the future of the planet and hope the world goes to hell so that they'll maybe have an opportunity to live free.
From their standpoint you are the wealthy oppressor. As a working American I understand how unhealthy most are, but see that I am comparatively (though struggling by American standards) well off compared to global standards.
So who are you speaking to? I have no faith that the greedy folks will ever sacrifice power for their own longevity. There is no hope. People don't see 10-20-50-+100+ years of behavior and suddenly believe.
Thanks for this presentation. My understanding is that we are at ~ 410 ppm (Loa Hawaii) which I thought equated to already a 2 degrees C shift from the normal equilibrium... I could be mistaken. You mention 415 even worse! #Capitalism DOES COST THE FUTURE - it COSTS IMMENSELY... I understand your thinking yet this can cause miscommunication now and in the future... Think you should rather say and modify your presentation to consider Capitalism - 'does not weigh the costing of' - or rephrase o.O Maybe use the term quantify..? The RULES should BE - Fossil Fuels KEPT in the ground. Simple! Many problems solved! :P Thanks for your input and valuable delineation to the World :-) x
Tony Heller...plus,why don’t you confront the reality of the facts that NO ONE is at your ‘lecture’...
It's a huge problem that the U.S is so far behind in terms of this discussion.
What a dare we have. We have got another religion to save us from the devil / co2.
But there is only one small problem, it needs money it always needs a little more money.
We can't, I am sorry. :(
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Randomly selected people to discuss policies?
Why is tgis a good idea? I can understand getting everyone involved. But when you have a system that gives a potential to have a group of people who DONT KNOW ANYTHING about the problem at hand. We end up going in the WRONG direction.
This what I understood from what your people had told us about the people/citizens assembly.
You would need to look closer to the Aboriginal culture. You're answers are with them. Now, I'm nit saying to turn everyone tribal(as some ignorant people love to say), what im saying is, the Aboriginal peoples had a balance when living with nature. They understood nature and what it could do for them NATURALLY. Aswell as what 'they' could do for the earth so as to not disrupt it.
There is much to learn, and little time to do it.
A word people tend to forget is 'ingenuity' or 're-implementation'.
Or in other words, people in general, just think they know enough about what's necessary.
I'm always growing, always learning.
I just wish there was a rebellion group in my state :(
Greta stood alone, she not standing alone now.
Go to the XR website, contact them and tell them exactly that.
Start one. I guarantee you there are a load of other like-minded people nearby thinking the same think. And you'll be glad to have found them.
xxwookey I agree. Even if you only end up with a handful of people.
This
Shrunken potato chips rebellion
There's an apt idiom to describe oligarchal based media...whenever you observe it think: "GLUEY'"....as in (you'll have to be)a glue sniffer to believe (this garbage) is what oligarh based media is dialogue tonight over any if these topics? NONE! OUR fellowship believes we need to PROJECT catalyzing an extremely ra
Neuroscience is an extremely long way from climate science
Do our friends who dump radioactive material beneath the oceans imagine that their habit of doing so will aid or are they aware they actually add to global warming? What about encouraging families to own many cars and what about war scud missiles and bombs that rain down on people does that help the global warming theory? And what about sending rockets and all sorts of equipment up to the outer hemisphere are these projects good for the stabilisation of earths core? What about British railways contribution? They are cutting down multi millions of trees all to enhance the effects of global warming. With the dissemination of trees the earth will become eroded and wild-life endangered.
But know this there is a God whose prophet foretold 'He will bring to ruin those ruining the earth'. You are eager to laugh and scoff as you are taught against the God who owns the whole inhabited earth. You imagine you can do as you like without repercussion but you are wrong. I know that for a fact.
Primary problem is living based around capitalism and division of humanity based on identity, there is no way out of this unless we get out of these systems collectively...else this is just delaying the obvious...only way to change us is to start with children as they haven't collected too much garbage of greed based systems... adults are too hooked on trappings of current social states to switch including me!
For example, just look at our education system, it is an assembly line to produce humans largely to exploit each other and accumulate....
I just wish that homo sapiens, the self proclaimed wise ape, not, such hubris, would go extinct and all other species would persist, but that isn't what is happening, everything is dying, we've killed and destroyed everything, it's too late, all is beyond control, nothing can be done that is why nothing is being done, all we can do now is mitigate the harm first and foremost to non human life forms, we are in hospice
What would have happened if man did not change the climate? Answer? The regular earth cycle of ice ages would be what everyone would be concerned with. If the earth was considered a living thing, it would seem that something would occur to shed the earth of its human parasites😊
The elite will repopulate the earth once the masses are dead and gone. No worries!
Not vegan? Not serious
Denial of the animal death industry. Playacting with serious faces but XR is basically not serious.
I agree but I think XR may just be climbing one mountain at a time! They are gaining momentum so a vegan world future could be next...has to be next.
Agree
Chose your battles. Being vegan and still flying, not serious. Being vegan and still paying taxes to the military industrial complex, not serious. Yes let’s get serious. The first step is to recognize the enemy and quit fighting your allies.
Climate activism does not require to be vegan as a conditio sine qua non. It‘s up to you how you spend your per caput/year carbon allowance of approximately 2 and a half tons. You may even fly to New Zealand as long as you refrain from further flights or driving a fossil car for the next 5 years. Similar calculations can be made for your food intake.
Good luck to XR. 👏👍🖖
Allusion and deception do not engender trust.
humanity ? I'm in it for all other lifeforms ... But they are already down the drain, so it's gonna be quite a haul
You can start by doing Anything that slows it down climate change.
Humanity already died many years ago, Im not gonna save you.
you would get any credit. that is a root problem money created as low self confidence.
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Then plant more trees 🌳
Non violent? Kicking somebody's face?
THE RICH CEO'S THAT RUN THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY AND THE POLITICIANS THAT ACCEPT THEIR CASH BRIBES TO SUPPORT THEM, REMEMBER THE FRENCH REVOLUTION!!!!
I don't think the French had a militarized police force.
Tell that to the 2nd amendment conservatives and the NRA crowd.
@@michaelg1569 Tell that to the 2nd amendment conservatives and the NRA crowd.
The Earth’s climate is a complex interconnected mechanism.The presentation on the climate here is superficial to the point of being patronising. Take the ‘hockey stick graph’. In this presentation it is shown without the error band. Look at the original and note that the error band for the first 750 years, about 1 degree, is larger than the overall increase in temperature claimed, about 0.85 degree.
Does humanity want to be saved? Does humanity deserve to be saved? Answers on the back of a postcard please. And for slow learners, a spoiler alert - the answers are no and no. You're welcome.
Unless someone has solved in McPherson paradox while I was sleeping this is all well intentioned mental masturbation.
Individual actions does basically nothing, however, things like vegetarianism/veganism/meat reduction are worth trying to normalize and are effective at start important conversations with the people you know. These actions are seeing growth momentum too.
Plus there's basically basically nothing else we as individuals can do that's has as big impact and is as easy.
The Hockey Stick graph is a visual tool for wealth imbalance, species extinction AND public awareness to the problem
I've never met an environmentalist who isn't a hypocrite.
well THIS environmentalist is quite sure we need to increase nat gas production, vastly increase nuclear power project development, end the failed weather-dependent and resource-intensive "renewables" fever and build a high-energy lower carbon future for humankind - resulting in lowered birthrates, higher literacy, better health outcomes, higher rates of recyclingb and energy abundant prosperity for ever more inhabitants of this globe. And full speed ahead with deep-drilled geothermal research.
The last time temperatures were higher than they were now wasn't 11000 years ago but in the 1930s.
Can you show any proof of that statement? I've been trying to find it, but so far I've only seen the opposite in global temperature conditions.
JOEBIDEN2020FORPRESIDENT , HE WILL HELP FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE , 💙👍
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cant get a seat
Why is she talking about saving humanity from extinction? The science doesn't say that we are going extinct. The realistic danger of global warming and population growth isn't extinction, but enormous damage and a possible or some say even probable destabilisation of our societies.
LETS CUT THE BS, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO BIG BUSINESS, GREED AND ZERO CONSIDERATION FOR SOCIETY WHERE MONEY IS PRIORITY OVER ALL ELSE AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE THAT ATTITUDE INCLUDING THE END OF CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT. EXTREME MEASURES UNFORTUNALTEY MAY BE NECESSARY TO GET THEIR ATTENTION BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME WHERE THERE IS NO TIME FOR BEING POLITE. THE FRENCH REVOLUTION COMES TO MIND. .
The problem is capitalism.
the problem better not be capitalism. Because if capitalism is the problem there is no way we could change anything about climate change in this short period of time. It would take centuries to take down capitalism worldwide.
@@charlottexroyalty7819 It would not take centuries to take down capitalism. The religion of capitalism is all belief-based smoke & mirror nonsense. If a comet were to crash on earth (or some other catastrophe was to happen to us), nobody would be checking the stock market LOL We would all be gathering together supplies and people to secure our preservation. Our system of capitalism could even end overnight, depending on how bad the catastrophe, right?
Climate change is going to end capitalism whether we like it or not within the near future, or we are going to change capitalism into something that isn't capitalism as known today, in order to curb business as usual CO2 emissions.
“We have a finite environment - the planet. Anyone who thinks that you can have infinite growth in a finite environment is either a madman or an economist.” - Sir David Attenborough
Yes, yes but it's all great for capitalism for the time being, isn't it?
This is terrible (but at least I don't have children).
Usually XR is quite honest but this presenter was still trying to downplay the reality, and mentioned 2C by 2050. Huge lie, we’ve already crossed it. Also, no mention of overpopulation. Being politically correct and conservative with your data is not what XR is all about...just another non-alarmist presentation that sedates people. You can do better XR. 😴
6:01 i think the first thing we can do to combat global warming is get this girl out of here
Why?
Plant trees
You want to save humanity, stop A I
Had enough after eight minutes when the fraudulent hockey stick curve was referred to and all credibility was thereby lost.
What do you mean by this?
Jug Head The hockey stick curve is a scam.
@@anduril2973 According to what?
Jug Head A man-made computer software algorithm generated it, and the algorithm is rigged to produce a hockey stick shape regardless what data were entered. Like everything else found in the rigged world of “climate science,” the hockey stick graph was a fraud the day it was generated.
Michael Mann didn’t like being called a fraud by his critics, so he sued them for defamation. One of those lawsuits was concluded by the Supreme Court of British Columbia, Canada, which threw out Mann’s lawsuit against Dr. Tim Ball.
Not only did the court grant Ball’s application for dismissal of the nine-year, multi-million dollar lawsuit, it also took the additional step of awarding full legal costs to Ball.
A Professor who claims a sea level rise of 200 metres ... a professor in Neuroscience whose brain failed to focus!
Just to be clear, there has been at least two geological periods prior to the existence of humans where the Earth was hotter than is is now? Talk about debunking oneself !
Climate change caused apocalyptic mass extinction that wiped out 75% of life on Earth, scientists find
Read more: metro.co.uk/2019/10/29/climate-change-caused-apocalyptic-mass-extinction-wiped-75-life-earth-scientists-find-11005979/?ito=cbshare
You are next puny human. Humans won't make it out it out of this century & techno industrial civilization will finish colliding within a decade. It's undeniable.
Oh dear! This is so boring. ☹️
We survive the earth dies.
We die the earth survives.
Sterilization is the best choice to show true conviction to this cause.
find another cause, humanity is not even close to being on the road to extinction. turn your attention to building civilization, rule of law and meritocracy instead.