'Heading for Extinction' - Oxford Extinction Rebellion talk with George Monbiot and friends.
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2019
- Filmed in Oxford 2019 by Zoe Broughton & Quen Drury
Edited by Lindford Lowe
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Watching this 4yrs on, and our political leaders, including the opposition, have taken no notice at all. And yet, we cannot be paralysed by the enormity of the task. Keep going. Keep moving forward.
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A new record high in 2023. Yet so may of us sit comfortably with plenty of food in the stores and gas in our tanks and the freedom to travel. The ground beneath us has not gone past the angle of repose but when it does I will no doubt be scrambling over the bodies of babies and grandmas to hang on to a few more months of miserable life. That is the remaining challenge. How human can we be facing our own demise.
"We are a society of altruists ruled by psychopaths." - George Monbiot
I keep on saying this, but it's yelling at the wind: psychopaths and sociopaths need to be permanently from society by ending their existence in the land of the living. We have to realize that going forward there are a perctange of people born that on;y destoiry the world around them and don't want to live within society and muist be eliminated.
“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.” - George Bernard Shaw
@@Orson2u Was that a verified quote of GBS ? Smart.
"Am I going to be the last generation to grow old?" Sitting next to my baby right now and wow...that's powerful. What a remarkable young woman.
How gullible you are....
most people are stupid to have children, there's not such a thing as "If we fail to act", "Before it's too late", etc, it's game over people, there's no such a thing as our chances of reaching 3C degrees above pre-industrial levels, or 5% chances of reaching 4 degrees above; once we pass 2C all these tipping points are crossed and all positive feedback kicks into effect it's simply a matter of time, if you jump out your window from a 35th floor your chances of hitting the ground are 100%, we need to reach net zero emissions by 2025 🤣🤣India and China already informed they will reach net zero by 2060, and that's just a target, all our politicians and corporations ruined our planet for money, it's that simple, this video has 79k views, justin biever's songs have 400 million views, we are the dumbest more disgusting thing that ever happened to this beautiful planet, i truly hope we go extinct.
Let's do our part. Let's STOP buying anything that comes in plastic. Let's STOP buying crap we don't really need. Let's STOP consuming at these crazy levels. Let's STOP making money the centre of our lives and the aim of our decisions. Let's STOP pointing out our differences and let's understand that all humans are part of the same species and that we have to fight TOGETHER if we want to survive!
1:32:59 George Monbiot gets it. Excellent answer to the question on nuclear power.
"While nuclear has its dangers, the dangers of fossil fuels are orders of magnitude greater. *Coal kills more people when it goes right than when nuclear goes wrong* "
"Nuclear and renewables can complement each other, nuclear providing the base load helping overcome the intermittence issues"
"There's some very exciting potential in small modular reactors which actually are powered by the waste left over from the previous really crappy designs of nuclear reactors and I would like to see a lot more research and development going into that because what is currently a massive problem (the waste pile) could potentially be turned into a solution"
Yes. From the little I've heard nuclear safety suffers simply because of the usual reason, safety versus price/profit, same as with slag heaps that go through Aberfan, oil trains that blow up in Lac Megantic, cyanide in Bhopal, and thousands of others. It's not rocket science. The talk that I heard from an expert about Three Mile Island described a situation beyond pathetic. He said it was because a single high-pressure water pump failed. Utterly mind boggling. It didn't have 3, or how about 33, water pumps in parallel with any 1 being able to cool while the reaction was being slowed to its 7% minimum residual power after a pump failure. For crying out loud, I have 2 of USB pluggable disk drives on my computer here with backup of what's on the internal drive just so I don't lose my old glamour photos of me and my kitten videos, and apparently some nuclear power plants have greatly-compromised safety because the design doesn't have such blatantly-obvious backup. There's no complicated science or engineering involved. It's clearly just a case of the foxes running the hen house in which coal is cheaper than the cost of a safe nuclear power plant so instead of somehow balancing that by the usual government wealth distribution (tax money, tax breaks) so that safe nuclear power plants are made slightly cheaper than coal it's decided by decision makers to build marginally-safe nuclear power plants and hope for the best and when the worst happens just throw up your hands, do a quick mea culpa like BP in the Gulf of Mexico and press on making wealth for yourself while the general public lives with the consequences. Not science or engineering rocket science, just money, wealth, profit. And so species move towards a greatly-diminished ecosphere.
RUBBISH. Multiple studies using observational satellites, spanning multiple decades (three or more), PROVE that rising CO2 levels are saving the biosphere from death, shrinking deserts like the Sahara, and greening the world. The Fossil Future is a future so bright, I gotta wear shades!
@@grindupBaker investment capital should never be allowed to dictate not just safety, but overall operations....my dad, who died of ALS ...was a nuclear plant designer for Bechtel corp. in the 70's & 80's he would continually decry "the public has no idea of the applicable safety standards"...to me...that was the opportunity for us to turn the corner.
An opportunity lost...now the whole US economy is wrapped in a pernicious spiraling loop of destructive "growth" the only biological entity that grows without limits is cancer.
No George.. we will not turn it around, but we mustn't stop trying. Now, if you look at trending videos today we have *' I Baked Lipstick into a Cake'* with around 4 MILLION Views, this video 2000 Views... that's why we won't turn it around!
all I can say is...….sigh, sigh
Pure avoidance. The saddest part is, to get people to listen we must objectively look at the capitalist mindset of individuals to get people to listen. We must sell this emergency as imporant to the people in the global north, when importance should just be a prerequiste. However, there is more to this i.e. disrupting "business as usual" in the actions of those in power.
Lipstick into a cake you say...
Fascinating.
TEOTWAWKI
Let's DO THIS! From Oregon, USA.
Blocking government and corporations buildings is better than blocking roads.
What about blocking sea ports (i.e. access to container ships) via sit-ins, etc.?
What's that? A proposition or distraction?
Blocking roads is blocking governments and corporations.
Block airlines.
Shipping.
Trains.
Let's just gridlock everything?
Thank you for filming this. I really appreciate it! :)
Stay strong!
- From Fredericton NB Canada
Greetings from BC, I'm feeling really inspired by your movement, it is heartening to know so many people care, sometimes we are led to believe caring about this is for the "wacky fringe". Interesting to see BC get a mention in one presentation (the pine-beetle devastation). Where I live there are still a fair few dead pines around but many more green trees, though years of mismanagement of the forests have made it a more dangerous place. We have had devastating wildfires the last two summers, I think the largest areas burnt since records began, and all that standing dead timber obviously adds to the danger. Summer 2017 in my neck of the woods was pretty awful, it was so dry, and so many lightning strikes and human-caused fires, evacuations etc, it felt like the whole place could turn into a fireball in seconds. Plus we spent the last two summers breathing in who knows what in all that smoke. We've just had quite a dry winter, I think a lot of people here are scared we'll see more of the same this summer. It's not a good way to live.
That was two years ago?! 🔥😳😱🔥
@@christinearmington 2017 was the bad year, 2018 wasn't great, then we had two quiet summers and now 2021 is shaping up to be similar to or worse than 2017
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And now 'tis '23 and the past year has been even worse.! What does that tell you about the future?@@hawthornleaf5909
I keep reading that we are actually passed significant tipping points.
Not that we shouldn’t take action to mitigate what we can, and save with savable, but I’m very skeptical of any scenario that says that business as usual as possible into the future
Governments need to appropriate the wealth of the energy sector giants. They should stop allowing them to stick their Pinnochinose's into state policy. We know they have always done this. The Koch brothers recently advised Trump to take over Venezuela just because one of their refineries wouldn't work without the type of oil that V produces. Note Just one refinery! They have thousands of other such establishments but will gladly destroy a country for 2000 thousand jobs. And the truth as they know it is that eventually, all the refineries will have to be liquidated and/or will succumb to the rising seas. Big oil has freely polluted the world and now blames the rest of humanity for not stopping the flow of oil-based products. Yet they carry on pouring. It is the sickness of the rich and greedy and their protectorate that has allowed this to go on for so long. The fight should already be happening on their turf. We shouldn't have to equip everyone with the philosophical know-how of climate for them to know that the oligarchs are the problem. Rid the world of them so the righteous can get to work on cleaning up their mess. Because as long as they are around the outflow pipes of their ivory towers will keep soiling the land.
Even if you decide to just once a week have a vegan meal, that saves lots of resources. And then when you see how easy and delicious it is...
From XR Tasmania, Australia, thanks!
You are all great! Thank you!!!
Try Tom Nelsons UA-cam channel.
This is going to be a rough end . . .
If you would like to undo generations of damage you can desperately cling to hope.
I would suggest enjoying family/friends/life goals B4 the great collapse and famine begins.
In the end all we have are faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. Corinthians 13:13 Love is the greatest because while the other two are about as useful as tits on a boar, Love is the one thing that could actually save us. You cant love someone without first loving yourself. It hard to call a drone strike on someone if you love all life. It is hard to willfully ignore pollution if you first love the earth. If all decisions were suddenly made out of love instead of fear, insecurity or greed the world would be forever changed. This was the message of many and all have refused to listen.
How will all these good intentions and ideas solve The McPherson Paradox? They won’t. “All of your schemes and all of your dreams doesn’t mean shit to a tree.” (The Jefferson Airplane) Nature, does indeed, bat last.
My thoughts exactly. What about the aerosol masking effect?
Ya, McPherson - he's a professor, not an actual scientist in a laboratory inventing new technologies and making new scientific discoveries - like the folks I worked with for 36 years at the USAF/SMC. So it's not clear he has the experience to actually judge how things will go down. But he's made a name for himself.
Hi, any chance to do it in German? Subtitles are not enough. People need to hear it from people of their nationality in their own language. Happy to support !
Kurz gesagt, wir stecken mit der Nase tief in der Scheiße und unsere Anführer haben ihre Daumen im Arsch
Brilliant strategy, incredibly well thought out, beautifully expressed and articulated; so glad to be part of this. Thanks to all participating.
CO2 is NOT the climate control knob. Satellite and weather balloons data, accumulated over four and six decades respectively, prove that nature controls the control knob. That’s what we’ve measured. “Oooooh. He’s doing science….”
The explosive growth phase that we are in currently, with our global economy, is based on consuming energy from our environment. We will consume as much energy from our environment in the next 30 years as we have since 1750. As civilization grows, its demands for energy of all types increases. Growth necessitates an accelerated rate of waste products. Carbon dioxide, top soil depletion, etc. All large scale industrial waste products, no matter in what form, liquid, gaseous or solid, must be accounted for, recycled and become carbon neutral. Carbon must be taken from the atmosphere and stored back into ground where it belongs.
Learned scientists are repeatedly telling us we can’t win our war against nature, which is being waged in the form of industrial civilization. After grid collapse and the disintegration of industrial infrastructures, the next predictable thing, like dominoes falling down, that would be the +500 world-wide Fukushima-style meltdowns. We have incompetent leaders who want to take us quicker into the apocalypse. The whole planet and all biological life on Earth can be written off as collateral damage for the select few who think it’s possible to escape to Mars.
At some point, I think civilization will be forced into a decline...probably going to happen rapidly, in decades. Some kind of negotiated end to the war against Mother Nature is long overdue.
I'm thinking the oceans are dying much faster than species on land. We don't realize that because we are not a marine species. But the oceans are losing oxygen and absorbing CO2 and heat at a tremendous rate. Reefs are DOA. Thermohaline currents (AMOC) will slow and shut down. Then it's game over for terrestrial species. All that will survive long term on land, it would not be the apex predators like humans, but certain insects like cockroaches, ants and wasps. Unicellular thermophiles: rad-hardened bacteria and fungi will outlast everything.
All I can say is, YES, this is an excellent concise and informative comment, everything you have written is correct from all the studies I have done, I wish I had written it. Thankyou, a very sad thankyou, I don't really care if humanity goes extinct but it's all the non human species that we are already taking with us, we are incredibly destructive
Hi, I'm interested in the added 10C worst case scenario described in the video. Is there a link I could use to read more about this?
One thing surely we can agree on is that Doris rocked the place (from about 1:11:00). And I'm not just giving allowance for young age. Ignoring that, she totally made sense.
The other thing I have total certainty about is that all the speakers made 100 times more sense than almost anyone in the comments. Confusion abounds. That is the biggest enemy of all.
Instead of blocking roads, why not try STOP BUYING STUFF ! Stop the economy Stop Stop Stop
Good suggestion. STARVE THE SYSTEM. LIVE SIMPLY.
@Donald McCarthy ha ha, isn't it "lean" and hungry looks? Nice to see you here, friend.
@@jbr84tx this is exactly what I do, we all need to divest and stop consuming (except food and only a plant based diet)
It's only got limited impact. 3.5% of people are more likely to get on the streets than go without.
Stop buying animal products and of course, as little as possible of everything.
"The moment that you start to do something, everything feels a whole lot better" 👈
Who says the government is not telling the truth. In April this year the parliamentary select committee for climate change said. “The National Adaptation Programme does not address all of the risks and opportunities set out in the UK Climate Change Risk Assessment.” One can’t argue with that.
Given that we have proven to be unwilling or unable to change the way our civilization works, our own extinction is inevitable
Or we could be more willing and more able.
@@lilianversange2312
We are what we are. As communicated, it is a given. Could be, should be, might be and $5.00 will buy a coffee at Starbucks.
And so very overdue. Mother Nature awaits our collective demise.
Not clear - it's possible we could collapse and have a new Dark Ages instead of complete extinction.
Ah! The narcissistic Horror Show narcissistic terror response. You haven’t learned that when people are in horror scenarios, they make stupid decisions.
I've recognized that climate collapse was one of many of the many crises we faced as a species for the better part of my many years on this globe. I've lived my life amazed every day that we hadn't started World War III or unleashed some deadly plague or been struck by a really big rock from space or any of the myriad other TEOTWAWKI scenarios people write and make movies about that range from the sadly inevitable to utter fancy. I've also had my negative beliefs about us reinforced time and again by people I encounter in life and those in positions of power and authority and the inability of the greater numbers of people of the world to unite and resolve an obvious problem for the better. Come on - with all the protests and knowing how awful they are, how are nuclear weapons still a thing? How is poverty and child hunger and genocide still a thing? But I'm a weirdo - always have been. I see the worst as it is and as it could be and I see the best is it is and as it could be. I'm sure I could do more, but I've been doing my best not to make it any worse than I will, glad to be along for the ride with all you crazy kids, and fascinated with how it's all going to turn out.
What I'm trying to say is that I'm with you, or rather perhaps you all are finally with me. I think there are lot of us out here who are and there are more we can reach as the climate crisis gets worse and worse. But between the amount of daily noise distracting so many people and the problem that if someone thinks this crisis is a crisis at all, too many of them still feel like it's a problem we have years and years to resolve before it will be a "real" problem and right now there are immediate, mundane problems of a life to solve. By all means, let's continue to talk and march and protest and make a noise, I just wonder if we aren't going to need something more. And if the Great Pacific Garbage Patch still isn't enough of a noise I don't know what it's going to take.
The longer I'm here I believe more and more that our species is probably due for a major culling of the less nimble and intelligent members of our herd. That it will devastate life on the rest of the globe is the shameful part, but life will probably return someday as long as we don't break something and end up making another Venus. If any of us make it through I just hope they remember our mistakes and don't repeat them. Peace - and good luck!
I feel just like Sapore did right now. I am the only person in my family and from work who knows quite well now just how horrifying Abrupt Climate change is. Right now I'm kind of living a lie that is I want and need to be part of this movement but I'm stuck in a job I loathe but cannot find a way without probably becoming homeless if I quit my job. I need people who are going through what I am going through with sleepless nights and feelings of anxiety and despair also grief at the loss of wildlife all around me. The speed of change and the loss of habitat for animals is so shocking I am sometimes unable to eat normally because of all my sadness and I cannot believe that so many powerful people are doing absolutely nothing to make the changes whilst courageous people get arrested and goto jail for just doing the right thing which is our moral duty. I wish I could find a better way to earn enough money for sustenance whilst being active in Extinction Rebellion. I need people who are concerned like me about what we are doing to our world to hang onto my sanity. Everyone I have warned about what is to happen in the next 10 yrs think I am ridiculous and have lost the plot or they actually don't care but they sure will do when their very young children are going hungry because we cannot store grains anymore and meat is gone forever for everyone except the very wealthy.
bullshit get involved in a direct problem solving team, oh wait you're probably out of a job now anyway.
Grant, that's not very helpful. Grassroots actions at home are also extremely important and contributes to the solution. It's not just about staging protests and getting arrested! Grow some of your own food...drastically reduce your animal product consumption...try to use your car less or buy a bicycle/skateboard/push-scooter for shorter travel...find people on the internet to talk to who share your feelings...but always remember to take some kind of actions that are part of the solution to help you keep positive and give you some self worth when you look in the mirror. No one is alone with this, we will only get to a better world together, not apart, not with unhelpful comments...I do hope that this green revolution is inclusive, encouraging, coming from a place of Love...That our forward momentum is with people reaching out their hands to grab others to create change together...to drum out the urgent message with helpful solutions and things we can do now...not just lobbying the Govt, as that has been happening for decades and is intensly frustrating !
I so resonate...no one around feels the terror I feel and I am living a lie every day of my life...
As you can see, some are indifferent to our predicament or your sorrow in particular. Some powerful people compartmentalize their lives. And many in power are utterly ruthless, as we have seen. Back in 2001, in Florida on 9/11, my secretary was bemused at the emotional reaction of everyone in the office. After all, it hadn’t happened to them or in town. 🤦♀️ So the best you can do is find friends who get you, whether in person or online. Good luck. 🍀
Goes to show, you are human. Imo it's the trillions of trees that have burned worldwide, china has planted billions to offset there coal plants, you can compare aerial photos 10 years apart
Don't forget that flat maps like the one at 16:28 are so hopelessly distorted that they are practically useless for studying outside the tropics. For example, the one at 16:28 is showing the Arctic Ocean region as a massive 6.2x as large as it actually is relative to the massive tropics (shown as 55% of tropics width on your flat screen but is actually only 8.7% of tropics width). This is why Global Mean Surface Temperature (GMST) is, and must always be, close to the Mean Surface Temperature (MST) of the tropics and sub-tropics. Note that the difference between ocean & land Mean Surface Temperature (MST) increase of the tropics and sub-tropics that's shown at 16:28 is essentially (some different scaling required) the "climate lag" that's shown at 17:34
Solidarity from the Sunrise Movement, New Mexico Chapter
Great. The failed Marxists love this, too. FAILED! But history is bunk, right? /sarc
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Go vegan.
Do not use cars and planes but bikes and trains.
Buy less stuff.
Kill your greed and give money to the poor.
Recycle.
Educate yourself (for instance by reading "Doing good better" and "Utopia for realists" and watching documentaries like "What the health", "Cowspiracy" and "Dominion").
Develop compassion.
Exactly. And learn about consciousness and how we can interact with other life forms for guidance and help.
Don't just give money to the poor without birth control and family planning. You are missing Sharing and Reusing as core concepts.
Great list! and I agree with it all.
Rejecting single use plastics and plastic at all where possible. Recycling plastic is a fallacy.
No, this won't be enough unfortunately.
-Leave the city as soon as you can
-With your savings help to co-create rural resilient fossil-free communities
-Become a producer of your own means of subsistence and start exchanging with neighbours.
-Invite and welcome people.
-Spread love and non-violent principles.
But while you are figuring your way out of the city:
-Join XR and any true and radical civil disobedience group
- Empower people to dismantle the industrial high-tech driven monster
Any other thing you do, however good your intentions are, will not be enough, and actually not propose the level of engagement, example and true solidarity we need to surmount this situation.
@@valeriob.4394 and go where? Extinction is a total event.
They asked for suggestions for non violent direct actions, endless road crossing throughout a city for thirty minutes, closing everything down for a short period would show that we have huge power. They can't arrest folk for crossing the road and it would be easy to escalate. Budah of Birmingham
Also join the Critical Mass movement.
You could all go to China, non-violently. That would solve at least one problem.
They absolutely would arrest people for that
I'm here because of #ClimateEmergency, #biodiversitycrisis and our #starevolution; our sun will become a red giant in time... So eternal #ClimateChange
39:00 onwards, Locke and Hobbes needs some amplification :) is this the basis of a current valid legal defence for rebellion?
I'm reminiscing about the comic books of the 70's. On 2? pages in the back, they described every major natural disaster that exists (One per issue). At 58, I've seen major examples of almost all of them. But I never dreamed that Hothouse Earth would be even remotely possible within my lifetime! To be fair, we got distracted by Nuclear Weapons quite a bit.
I take no comfort in the idea that somewhere some people will survive! If we fail to turn the destructive impact we've had on the planet around, I, for one, hope our species is wiped out too.
what can possibly go wrong in the age of climate change?
1. Stop flying.
2. Stop driving.
3. Stop building.
This nearly inspired me to "stand up" but finally didn't, and I think that's because it is ( yet again ), about "indirect action", *not* "direct action". Direct action would be acts which achieved to some extent your actual goals, directly, like those brave people who broke segregation laws by actually sitting in the forbidden seats etc, eg reducing CO* emissions by disabling car engines, or switching off heating/lighting/air-conditioning in shopping malls, factories, or offices, or stopping planes from taking off at an airport ( eg with drones as famously happened at Gatwick recently ), or shutting a big agroindustrial plant with a hygiene scare etc.
Been thinking the same thing. We could be taking such direct steps starting . . . . NOW. Let us meet, plan, and act.
The fossil fuel companies need to be waged war on.
you people are crazy.
@@lorrainegatanianhits8331 I have in fact in the last 4 years,, red-pilled by the covid thing, come round to thinking the exact same thing! :)
@@OliviaCism haha ok.
Well, Covid has been a "catalyst" as Klaus Schwab would say :-)
I always feel bad for writing such things as "you are crazy". I actually think it's great that people are doing what they think is best. Unfortunately there is no discussion and consequently no competition between different ideas. A large diversity of ideas is best imo.
The future, with an environment that can support lifeforms we all know and love, is finite and short. Don't waste it sitting in meetings listening to speakers quoting statistics, looking at graphs and images of others suffering elsewhere. Soon enough it will come to your neck of the woods...even if you've already chopped it all down. Go have some fun. Be with those you care about.
People keep saying we need to cease our carbon emissions, but that would only make things worse. Why hasn’t there been any mention of the aerosol masking effect?
2 comments - 1) There is a 10 year time lag for the effects of carbon. The heat we're feeling today is from carbon we burned 10 years ago. If you really look at the scale of that, there is no way to keep below 1.5 or 2 or even 3 degrees of warming. The Arctic ice is already almost gone already. The loss of it will absolutely cause the methane in the shallow Siberian shelf to release which will bring us many more degrees Celsius of warming very suddenly. 2) When (and it is when, not if) the economic structure breaks down due to climate disruption and large amounts of industry stops, we will experience a large degree of warming very suddenly due to global dimming.
“The loss of it will absolutely cause the methane in the shallow Siberian shelf to release which will bring us many more degrees Celsius of warming very suddenly."
You may be right. However:
"But some things can be examined and ruled out. Imminent massive methane releases that are large enough to seriously affect global climate are not going to happen (there isn’t that much methane around, the Arctic was warmer than present both in the early Holocene and last interglacial and nothing similar has occurred). . . . ”
www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2019/02/the-best-case-for-worst-case-scenarios/#comments
According to Michael Mann {9/2/2019}.
“02:13 . . . scientists who have studied this
02:15 problem say yeah there's a certain
02:16 amount of methane that we it could be
02:19 mobilized and it will add to the warming
02:21 but it's a small contribution compared
02:25 to the warming we are causing by the
F02:26 burning of fossil fuels . . . “
ua-cam.com/video/LifcMZyCYmc/v-deo.html
"10 year time lag for the effects of carbon. The heat we're feeling today is from carbon we burned 10 years ago" is all wrong. If anybody is actually interested in that science I can explain it. Simple enough but you need 13 year old British grammar school science-math or better. Let me know and I will.
@@Nhoj737 Yes, Eemian 126,000-122,000 years ago was 4,000 years of Global Mean Surface Temperature (GMST) ~0.5 degrees above present (but with uncertainty >>0.1 degrees) and Greenland ice sheet (GIS) surface temperature 5-8 degrees above present known quite well, and no big CH4 spike in the Greenland ice core so there's a little bit of GMST rise margin left for sure, and perhaps quite a lot more, according to the paleo climate analyses. Unfortunately, there's not only the coal/oil shills to deal with with their torrent of lies & irrelevant bull shit but also these totally-ignorant, lazy people like this "Gayle Madeira
" here who haven't the foggiest clue about any of it and simply parrot the drivel of the worthless charlatans who've sprung up to make a little coin & fame for themselves (notably a Guy McPherson). It's all quite sickening really.
When you say it was done before WW2 as in vast reductions realistically world
population 1940 was slightly less than 3 billion.estimated 2050 9.6 billion
current 7.7 billion.
Awesome. All the more people to help out.
The more the better! Considering that automation is replacing more and more job's and if we have to sit homeless on the street curbs, we will have enough time to help. Kind of a win win lol (don't believe in win win) but homeless getting arrested for ohhhh blocking a road or bridge in the name of climate change... get's them a night with in bed with a bowl of soup. Just like them terrorist groups that scoop up the left behind to radicalize. Or the Trump/Alex Jones scenario. Why don't we use the weak and left behind to make a change for a change. Just an idea.... question is would we remain a democracy to get his done?
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How many of the speakers, let alone the audience got there without fossil fuels?
You tell us.
@@vsstdtbs3705 diemoron.
Non...
You have my axe!
You should go hand in hand with Guy McPherson. He is one of the first to ring the bells on the matter.
He isn't. And I really hope they don't. XR need to stay true to the best climate science, as they have demonstrated here, so that they continue to resonate with the concerns of scientifically literate members of the public, and continue to educate rather than mislead. It would be so easy for them to lose touch with reality and veer off into McPherson's fairytale universe. It would be such a shame and such a massive loss.
@@rad858 Exactly. Narcissists like Guy are NOT going to be helpful.
What is really needed is actual democracy so that no rebellion is needed.
Congratulations you are doing great things!
So what would be immediate goals, cut down on beef? cut down on oil usage? And can nuclear waste yet be neutralized?
We are already at 1.5 degrees. IPCC moved the goal post on the latest report from 1750CE to 1850CE.
I went to an IPCC meeting here in Perth Western Australia a few weeks ago, it was so tame, there was absolutely no sense of urgency, understated everything
@@juliehay perhaps your genocidal propaganda has not reached serious people, yet…?
We're screwed. At this point the best we can do is brace for impact.
Probably true. But if I'm going out I'm gonna go knowing I at least tried. Cowering behind a locked door ain't my style!
wayne morris same feeling here exactly
I hope you are wrong but believe you are correct.
I will go down fighting for you and everything else on this planet thank you very much.
There are varying degrees of uncertainty in the scientific predictions - and there is necessarily uncertainty in the future response of humanity in terms of climate action.
So, if you are bent on concluding a certain future scenario is inevitable, you are probably wrong.
Luckily, "screwed" is a very broad range of conditions, so you have left plenty of wriggle room.
There are plenty of actions that will be beneficial. Whether they all fall under the umbrella of "brace for impact" depends on what you have in mind.
18:50 could someone provide the reference for this study please?
I can't find a reference (certainly no scientific document is going to have the Eiffel Tower on the side and be devoid of any Y-axis scale for GMST) but the 50 GtCO2(e) to 2100 AD is much like IPCC RCP 6.0 which is 29 GtCO2 in 2012 rising to 62 GtCO2 peak in 2075 then dropping to 48 GtCO2 by 2100. That RCP 6.0 has Global Mean Surface Temperature (GMST) of +3.1 degrees above an 1850-1900 AD base line, so +2.05 degrees above the present (2018 year GMST as a trend). The present accumulated energy imbalance is between 0.68 w/m**2 from NOAA ORAP5 and 0.87 w/m**2 from Balmaseda-Trenberth ORAS4 with Cheng-Trenberth's ORAS4 update or Kiehl-Trenberth paper on it. Jim Hansen figures 75% will be balanced over 100 years.
Great talk ! thank you! but that lady hacking in the crowd is annoying as heck.
What about carbon expenditure for Hinkley C power station?
If demand one is to attempt to require truth from the gov then it seems protecting those who the gov are trying to silence might be a pointed Target of this movement with particular attention being paid to the rights of the people to know the truth
This may be the very first activist movement in history that is backed up by all of the top notch sciences, natural as well as the humanities. And it is absolutely vital in the most essential meaning.
Let us all join and spread the message. 🇺🇳🏳️🌈🇪🇺
How about if we collect all the plastic bottles and other plastics found on the street to create roadblocks? In a sense creating a second use for single-use plastics
They could be called "traffic calming systems" because you could drive through them it would just slow you a tad if you didn't want to risk car paint damage from any metal tabs in the plastic. On unclear on how it fits with the spring rubbish tidy ups though, seems a bit counter productive on that front.
End of Century are you HIGH 😱
Great to see this. My anxiety is that the 34,000 of us who have watched this video are still the committed environmentalists and that the upstander movement has not yet really taken hold. I think the solution is to stand up and discuss these matters openly to all we meet. To scare the shit out of them perhaps but also to show them that a major shift in our thinking has to happen and can happen. Just keep presenting the hard to hear facts. Eventually people will have to listen especially when those facts become law and governments have to change their ways but also require the wider public to comply and change their ways. Its not a case of a nanny state its a case of a sane and informed state. The anti smoking legislation was the biggest intervention in public health in decades. It pissed some people off but it also helped many people to quit smoking and prevented many of from sitting in smoke filled spaces we thought were safe for us and our kids ( train carriages being a prime example) We have to force governments to pass laws and enforce laws to reduce subsidies for fossil fuel companies, to stop making flights so cheap and to allow waste on a massive scale. Clean air acts worked, child labour laws worked, anti slavery laws worked. We have to be unafraid to ask for legislation which is difficult to hold in the short term as it may restrict certain behaviours but in the long run is in line with scientific fact. No-one is now arguing it makes sense to send kids up chimneys and in 50 years timet they won't be saying it didn't make sense to stop the slide to mass ecocide and human extinction through blind faith in unregulated capitalism. And for those who talk of revolution - please read your history before you think that destroying the state and public institutions is a meaningful response to a complex problem.
What's with the silencing of specific parts of her speech?!
Bad sound I think.
Take action now. Switch your amp and your room lights off now!!!
(The drop outs of the audio intermittently at the midpoint is a shame.)
Me when considering voicing this topic : « I really should let people on Facebook know about it, how bad it is. That will help them and they will engage in a major own shift. Actually, no. I’ll only make a fool of myself and people will stop talking to me. They will find out sooner or later... ».
Yes, true.
1:32:46 That sounds great
Good talk .. will let the organisers off that they got the year wrong on the main background slide 😶🤐
"net zero by 2025" in nowhere near enough!
Truth!!
Hahahahaha
So climate change , us humans are innovative animals. So , when sufficient numbers of humans are aware of the real threat of climate change ( as they inevitably will be ) then human cultures will change for the better.Many of the actual remedies needed to mitigate human caused climate change are positively correlated with reducing the levels of inequality , greed and corruption in human cultures. If it weren't, it would be much easier to manage human caused climate change within a more reasonable and just society . Of course we can aways compare ourselves or culture to the worst so as to make a case that " it could be worse ". But , its more constructive to compare to " it could be so much better ".
summary of the science 12:23
Get up stand up time
Get your pitchforks ready.
Would you be prepared to host a full debate between Extinction Rebellion and those who have a different view?
No.
@@christianzilla Well, then you perhaps ought to look up the definition of 'bigot', because XR fits it rather well, and your reply rather tallies with the admission in the 1991 book, the First Global Revolution, on page 115, by the Club of Rome (a truly fascistic, elite, policy-making body posing as a think tank), that the Club of Rome invented the idea of man-made climate change in order to unite the masses by finding a common enemy. Indeed it says its intention was to make humanity the enemy. If you want to maintain your attitude, you are a hate group, and racist with it: racist against the human race and all its constituent races.
YEAH, a blinded, self-righteous “movement” that wants to achieve genocide of black Africa - it’s “evil” - eminent climatologist Judith Curry (Georgia Tech), and Princeton atmospheric physicist Will Happer.
When your house is on fire you don't call in a debate team. You can find opposing views everywhere.
It is only those idiots who are suckers for establishment propaganda, who are setting our house on fire. If you knew anything about atmospheric physics, you would drop this ridiculous climate BS. @@UnknownPascal-sc2nk
Hey :) really interested in this movement. However, I don't believe in 1) humanity, and 2) the level of doom predicted. Most human beings won't forego luxuries like toilet paper and meat until alternatives are available. I'm also from Scotland and can't imagine it changing (fully acknowledge this is counter to the evidence). But this mindset is fused in me, and I try to think critically. In order to convince closed minded people, I think you would need to convince me as I'm very open to new ideas. With regards to the doom, I do believe there will be major humanitarian crisis in the decades to come especially with mass migration of people from Africa where global warming will be most felt
XOX
So, be good for goodness sake!
There are no restrictions on self preservation. By any means necessary
Late evening before last, I walked my dog to the top of a hill partially overlooking the Pennines and North West of England, including the Wirral and Cheshire as far as the Welsh mountains. While ascending, I was struck by the most unusual intermittent waves of heat that moved across the land, and through us. I felt the energy of the world forests and felled trees of recent time dissipating, and a strong sense of what is to come. People of society everywhere have no real idea of what is to come, of what the lies have done to their children let alone grandchildren, especially those who choose not yet to feel these things, but to think money, medicine, modern chemical and machine is going to save any of us is a wishful and non practical delusion; those things, actions and attitudes are what have brought us to this BRINK. I've been ignored and laughed at while warning at least everyone in my home town, since I awoke to truth that we are on the brink of no return for the past 28 years. The suffering of the many have not yet begun, but it will, while I witness with regrettable disappointment as so many continue to cause the 'ship' to sink; it will be slow and increasingly disturbing. 26/08/2019
"While ascending, I was struck by the most unusual intermittent waves of heat that moved across the land".
You should see your doctor to get your circulation checked out....
do the research on paradise community fire. It was ignited on purpose.
GM has been a heartfelt environmental activist since forever. I first saw him in an undercurrent s video I watched in the 90s shortly lyrics after I became an activist. It was An Early Oxford Critical Mass and his disarming smiling and acidic attack totally thrashed a certain Oxford Council Member. From The Land is Ours (Guinness site) to Heathrow climate camp... he is One of US. Absolutely. Now is not the time for discord, but to maximise the opportunities XR and climate strike affords us. As the first principle of XR is Mass Arrest, which I totally agree with Hallam, it's is our Best tactic, and strategic option. It's quite easy to do. Have the courage and be cheerful on the way to the custody suit, because you are doing the one Major thing that Will actually make THE difference. All the Best people are getting bust for the Planet , putting their Body where their mouth is. After all, what is there Left to lose... but self respect if you don't have the conviction of your courage. See you there. Yip! XcalibuR!
1:33:32 Solar & Wind, Hydrogen generation as a storage media, there's Hydroelectric Power, another way of using a two lake system at different heights pumping water up on high power levels during the day & releasing at night on great demands, another way is weight lift system using closed coal mines using power 🔋 on high demands, so many ways, it wants deeper thoughts, personally I'm not for Nuclear Power Stations, Europe is actually dismantling Nuclear Power Stations to replace them with Solar & Wind, that to me is very logical thinking 💚❤
George Monibot criticising agriculture, what does he eat then? Air? We are all equally responsible for this catastrophe and we are all going to die from it.
He’s criticising animal agriculture, he’s probably vegan or at least vegetarian, which is great!
No one is going to die. Stop fearmongering...
Peanuts autogenerates nitrogen, are a perfect argument for the Dutch and german farmers, just to iterates how great you are and how slow are we in Italy to get at grade y. Bejoux!
Why the hell are all of these meetings/videos full of old people in the audience. These meetings should prioritise 18-40 year olds.
No 1 is blaming anyone, everyone is just been made aware to take responsibility. Earth is evolving changing constantly reacting to how suits existence fits, if man or whoever wants to consume more than need be then talk or moan about the damage so be it, Earth is moving still regardless, any consequences falls on the perpetrator who gave up, didn't try, didn't believe & didn't care, the human race will continue too but the population will differ somewhat. There is nothing wrong with the quantity of us just the quality. Dont become an alien ass ole.
Branch Davidian, The Manson Family, Heavens Gate, Insulate Britain, Extinction Rebellion.
Too late, too late. But bravo.
In reality the working population in the west is kept at a relatively low level of undeveloped productivity of human labor which explains why there is so large a political elite continually existing as a special class, freed from actual work, to manage the affairs of state, legal matters, arts, science, a special class that never managed to not take advantage and impose a greater burden of work on the working masses. More work, longer hours of work, more lethal and dangerous materials used during work, measuring work performance in harmful ways, micromanaging the working population to produce just enough above survival using the development of work against the working population that if not for the internet, youtube, cell phones, a working population in the west would not have the time to know the issues of, nor the actual fight, of Climate Change.
If you have the opinion that your average working environmental scientist is an " elite " then your living in a social bubble that is out of touch with science and scientists in general ( though as a scientist, I'm out of touch with a large part of politics which isn't founded on anything in particular. The social gossip " proof" by social persuasion " method " that your attempting with your own personal form of social persuasion quackery .)
Sure scientists have to go to university, and to be accepted at a uni , they usually have to have demonstrated ( passed the relevant A levels) that they have what it takes ( reasoning skills ) to have a good chance of passing a degree in science ( is that why you class scientists as elites because it's merely an attempt to derogate ( reduce the status ) of those whom study a subject you don't really understand.
I heard a utterly moronic term the other day . " their educated fools!" . Though the guy was ok in his simple " down to earth " way , he was self consciously unaware ( don't know what u don't know ) of his comparably lower IQ compared to ...people with a Doctorate in science , for example.IQ Status often provokes people to try to convince others they know more about a subject than they actually do . Thus they " bluff " intellect by giving confident and arrogant opinions because, unlike scientists , they don't have to prove any of the words they say. Especially on social media where people seem to think their opinions on science matter ( e.g . climate change ) , even when they so obviously don't even comprehend something as fundamental as the scientific methodologies ( e.g. empirical evidence ) on which all scientific information is based .
However, l do agree that there is a certain form of " elitism" that's been endemic in British society for hundreds of years ( and human cultures in general ) .
The elitism caused by vast scales of unequal wealth ( possession of resources ) ! . The have lots ( land and property.I.e resources ). I.e. The minority of very wealthy people whom can and do own parts of the media ( information system ) that can and do spoon feed information in an attempt to change the consumers opinions . e g . Brexit! , Brexit and more Brexit . Talk about a nation taking its " eye of the ball " ( evo psychology attempt at not speaking " elite " scientific terminology. Or as you may judge it "jargon".
Saying science is a form of elitism is only true in the context of a cultures resources and it's ability to provide a good education system . Even then , as science is a way to think , even having access to the internet a person can read up on evidenced based information from the relevant science based websites.e.g . Nasa , World Wildlife Fund , the many ' open access' free to read scientific journals and learn to think like a scientists. ( e.g . Not " my personal opinion" based . Science is Evidence/ research based thinking ).
It's very common on social media that a non scientifically educated person whom is arguing against a scientist about some scientific topic will completely miss the whole point of science ( like someone arguing that gravity gets them down. E.g. Being anti gravity won't mean you have a chance of floating up to fairy land. Even if or when you all believe in anti gravity and religiously sing the anti gravity mantra whilst putting your shoes on your daft heads ) . E.g. When l , as a credible scientist writes " Deforestation leads to the destruction of species habitats !" on the internet , it's not like Joe blogs saying " brexit means brexit!"' . The former is simply a scientist inferring the known research ( published as peer reviewed papers. And l should reference the actual paper / research so a reader can also read the relevant research ), the latter is Joe blogs making a noise from his mouth ( like a baby can ...blah ! Blah! ,due to the instinctive, comparably thoughtless behaviour of " pay attention to me !" . ( biased opinions are often formed due to individuals subjective psychologies and the culture they grew up in.I.e Wrong ! ).
I.e. Science is more objectively gathered information which has proven to be far more reliable than any particular subjective opinion ( including personal anecdotal experience ).
yes, keep the masses dumped down and busy little worker bees for the big corporations owned by the elites, they are then too tired to think about anything, running around after their kids, hither and thither they go....slow to think slow to act...…...keep them busy and ignorant and worn out
@@juliehay Oh I know...I see families are overworking...don't not spend more than 15 hours per week of unhurried down time at home...place is mostly appearing empty...not a good thing happening in the US for family development.
CONSIDER THIS- We're living in 2019! You don't need leaflets! Do you know how smart our phones are, how many people have a phone? Everyone. Everyone can be touched. There are super smart people in the world who will watch this and want to help. Let them help, collaborate to utilize the full utility of the technology we have to hand.
You need programmers, ap designers, hackers, all these smart tech people... software guys. The guys with the brains and the skills to to make this a global movement. Recruit for these people! The young adults in raural Mexico might have some good ideas, they want to participate, they might have something that the collective could benefit from. We need to reach out to everyone.
All of those people who know they're just working to pay off their mortgage, or the work 50 years to retire....all of those people who can see that we are destroying our planet. (CEO's are buying bunkers in Alaska...not sure why?
Douglas Rushkoff explains it very well.
The technology is what sets us apart. We can communicate, we can organise, we can participate, on mass, acting together to save our species from catastrophe.
We can devise our own global application, make it viral, good film directors to make compelling videos. Find the skilled people!
This is what sets this movement apart! Everyone in the world has a 3g phone. We can connect on a mass scale to cause major disruptions on a global scale. This matters are Global!
Even the kids living in the sticks can see that all the plastic in the oceans and the rivers can't be a good thing. Kid's arn't stupid. They will soon realise that this stuff doesnt go away and where is it coming from and...with the right education to reach these people.
This is a pivotal time for the future of our species. I stand beside you in hope.
See you in London.
Thank you!
Tom Askew True. The multiplying force of the world wide web must be used for our survival.
Extinction Rebellion, you should be just as concerned about 5G? Extinction may be sooner than you think if EMF health concerns aren't addressed.
i think its the sexiest thing when a brit girl says: AT ALL !!!
Please everybody that is in the extinction rebellion take an oath to not have children to save the world, also unite to really help by organising a mass suicide experiment, to really really help and show dedication, the planet depends on it.
We are doomed yes, very good
If I cannot justify my own existence and actions then how can I criticize the existence and life styles of others? What is the objective? Is it to highlight the over-consumption of the rich and by that I mean the top five percent of America, Europe, and Asia or to highlight the runaway population explosion in Sub Saharan Africa, both are contributing to climate destruction. Or is it to highlight the unsustainability of our own lifestyles, from the pollution of the microwaves generated by mobile phones which has been proven to be as harmful to bee populations as neonicotinoids to the desire to travel and see the world. Every time we can excuse our own actions and blame others.
Mucha información importante , de gente valiente.
I'm saving up as much money as I can to get an electric truck!
I drive a twenty-year old Jaguar, and proudly add CO2 to help GREEN THE PLANET!
When she referred to "the die back of plant communities in the Arctic" at 22:10 I replayed it three times because I thought I did not hear right?
1:11:35 Then I'm very interested in joining, I'm a logical human being with teenagers, I see what's happening & I'm deeply disappointed in the illogical thinking of this government building 5 x GAS power stations when they could build solar & wind farms, plus opening up Cumbria coal mine & give the go ahead for Oil Companies to drill for more Oil when The Paris Agreement says we should be lowering CO2, Rosebank is such a massive illogical thinking its criminal to Whats been agreed in The Paris Agreement, a signed promise is an accepted agreement, put me down to join 💚 👍 think green is The Only Way For a Future ❤
Just stop buying things, when the sales figures are down, all hell will let loose; the oligarchs will appear in their true characters. Before I buy I ask myself do I really need this. 90% of the time the answer I get, nah I do not really, I can happily live without it.
Who is funding XR?