2018 KTM 1290 Super Adventure S Review | MC Commute
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- It’s another commute with Zack! As usual, please feel free to suggest a bike you want to see featured here. If we get enough comments, we’ll send him home on that one next.
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It’s no secret we’re always trying to get our staff to work a little harder. Especially the ones who always seem to have too much to say. “Write it down!” we always shout at each other. Zack Courts is a classic case, always arriving to the office after his commute with a bunch of opinions about the bike he’s riding. Anyway, it’s always too much this, not enough that, and occasionally has some decent insights that we thought might help consumers or entertain enthusiasts.
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This bike by the numbers:
Price as Tested: $17,999
Displacement: 1301cc
Measured Wet Weight: 563 lb. (255 kg)
Fuel Capacity: 6.1 gal. (23.1L)
Seat Height: 33.8/34.4 in. (860/875mm)
Measured Horsepower: 128.7 @ 9400 rpm
Measured Torque: 85.4 @ 6830 rpm
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I just love how every single episode Zac sounds like he's woken up in his moto gear and rolled out the door, and progressively gets more awake as he rides along.
Finally another MC commute! Fav show on youtube about bikes
The Jakarta Roads dih.. Pantes ada bang raka TJR di sini,ternyata gaya berkendara anda terinspirasi dari zack ya bang.. Dikit2 whilie 😂😂😂😂
I love the random question read and answer at the end, "Does a helmet fit in the bags" "...yeah..." "why no shaft drive" "Idk Im not KTM..." LOL Zack you really are one of my favorite moto reviewers, you and Ari are awesome. Keep up the awesome work.
You need to watch Ryan at fortnine
Cruise control not functioning when traction control is turned off might be due to the problems old cars had with cruise control, where using it in low traction or wet conditions could cause a loss of traction with the throttle remaining wide open. I remember when I was younger using cruise control in the rain on a highway, in a corner my rear end lost traction and the cruise control caused my car to bounce off the rev limiter for like a second or two before it disengaged, which made be lose control even more quickly. Maybe just a precaution I suppose. Luckily I just spun out and lightly tapped the gutter after passing through 2 empty lanes.
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one. I forgot that that use to be something I considered when I turned CC on.
Wet weight is 524 lbs with full tank. It's the lightest big adventure bike even with the largish fuel tank.
Awesome! Love these MC Commute videos. You and Ari have really cornered the market (and our hearts ;)) when it comes to quality, down to earth motorcycling content! Keep em coming!
Agreed, from the future. RZ350 Goated still btw
In love with this channel. Keep up the good work sir.
Good job with the whole channel. Thanks! Keep 'em coming. We play this non-stop in our shops.
Zack your hilarious love the quick Q and A at the end! I think you should do that regularly
Zack you have a fantastic nack for doing these reviews. Thanks. The timing of this review could not have come at a better time as I am truly considering this bike versus the BMW.
Thanks for another video. I personally think this is a better review then a typical magazine article. A little less-refined - which is a good thing. More relate-able. Looking forward to more
You make me wish the were more motorcycles for you to review. Your ability to discern between flaws and preference is my favorite aspect of your reviews. Your reviews are the best, not like the best, not among the best, just the best. I suppose that's the preference thing though. Thanks, be well and ride safe!
Favourite motorcycle channel, and I do not say that lightly. I've pretty much watched them all. Your videos help me through the 6 month period of the year that I am not able to ride. Last few months before spring are torture though :(
Brilliant review as per usual. Thanks to you, I am now torn between the GS and the KTM! Good on you mate!
These really are the best reviews, love the MC Commute 👍
Great review, and you hit all the highlights of this bike. I just bought the 2020 - 1290 Super Adv S, and am really happy with it. Tons of power, handles great, perfect ergo's for me, 6'0", with a 32" inseam. I don't have much trouble flat footing it.
It was funny, right at the beginning when you let out about the $1200 cost of the hard bags, my wife turned and said, aren't they the ones you just ordered???? That was the end of that conversation, lol.
What an excellent review. Thanks for your good work.
Thanks Zack. Great video, look forward to the dash video.
Great commute review as always! I appreciate your comments regarding perceived size of the bike and whether you can flat-foot it. Some of the bikes in this category are either just too tall or too top heavy for us mid-sized people to comfortably handle.
I really enjoy all your video's, thank you so much.
Great job Zack as always!
Always nice vids zack.. Thumbs up.
Great video as always, love the bike cause I'm tall. I know its been cold lately but... Hows the heat off the engine? Compared to like the multistrada or GS.
Great job as usual Zack! Can I add a FJR 1300 to the list of requests? Thanks in advance!
Modern motorcycles are too complex. So much to go wrong.
The usual superb review.
Another strong review! Great work! I love mine wouldn't trade it for anything :)
Would like to hear your thoughts on a VMax. Also, when you can get your hands on a new Speed Triple and CB1000r, I'd like to see them as well. Great vid as always, keep up the great work!
Nice! Its snowing where I live so this will calm my riding urge for 19min
As always, nice work
I loved the barage of questions at the end. Keep it up in other videos
Would love to see the MY17 KTM 390 Duke commute.
Im getting one tomorrow! So stoked!!!
Great review! Just one question, which one would you pick between this and the BMW s1000xr? For canyon riding and weekend travel?Thanks!
Great job Zack! Maybe a VFR800f/Interceptor commute some day?
Keep it up!
Great vid, again Zack. So this bike, Multistrada Enduro, or the new Triumph 1200 any thoughts?
Really good job. One of your best.
That was great and makes me wanna test drive this beauty.
Traded my GSw in for one of these. Crazy good bike. A quick demo ride really doesn't do it justice. Once you work with the LC8 for awhile, everything else kinda pales by comparison (he said, also having a Multi 1200DVT w/full Termi in the garage).
The TC question: not just ice or very wet, modern cruise control is designed to maintain set speed which will cause the throttle to open or close depending on the topography (up hill, down hill regardless if you're in the middle of a turn or not), So imagine your an a wet road in Scotland going up a steep hill and in a turn, when the bike decides to accelerate suddenly you could easily loose control. Also this bike is design to travel off-road on loose surfaces i.e. Carratera Austral (1000KM of gravel) where cruise control comes very handy, as you'll ride with an average speed of 40KM/H (do your own math). Anyway same principal as above applies. Another point, as you ride with CC on, you're usually more relaxed on the bike, sudden changes in declaration and/or acceleration can cause loss of control of the bike and you're down before you've had a chance to react. This is of course amplified with heavy luggage and 2 up riding.
Very good review !
I'm not objective with the bike, since I own one, but...
Yes, the brake feels a bit soft at the beginning (probably for dirt purpose ?) and I would have preferred it with more bite too, but it is VERY powerful, one finger is enough for emergency braking.
I wouldn't say the mirrors are perfect : they are ok, but the left one isn't as good as the right one (because of its bracket, which prevents from tuning it as it should/could).
The bike should come with all the electronic options activated at no charge, and the heated grips as well. But once fitted or activated, everything works perfectly well.
KTM luggage isn't very tempting : they melt in the bike's looks (except for the top case, in my opinion), but they are so plasticky ! And the previous model encountered big problems with the locks, etc. I went for a full SW-Motech kit, and I don't regret it. Same price, better looks perhaps and no worry. Plus you can unmount the brackets in less than 30 seconds).
Yes, the bike is quite huge and the seat height is impressive : I'm 6" tall and it takes some practice to feel confident on it at low speed (especially with the comfort seat).
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Otherwise, I'm so glad I picked that biked : I quickly realised that this is the bike I had been wanting for so many years, without knowing it. Just not as nimble as my previous SMT, but what a machine... "Vibrations on the highway ? No, it pulses, just like it should." Exactly. There is such a good big twin feel with this bike. In many respects, this engine is the big twin I had always wanted. I just couldn't find one with all the qualities put together at their best. And here they are. This engine is unreal.
Electronic suspension just works, and the different modes are entirely purposeful.
Yeah, everyone with a new bike is glad with it.
Maybe.
Try one ;-)
Hi Zack, which one is better in traffic? In terms of weight and Manoeuvrability KTM or GS? Thanks 🙏
love the review and really liking this bike... but 1 big question about this bike... how's the heat?? warm weather... or stop and go?
That sound effect of exhaust was awesome 😂 daga daga daga
Great video, Zack.
New speed triple as soon as you can can't wait to see you commute on that
YAAAAAAAAAAAAHHSSSSSSS . . . another episode !
They NEED to do something about that water heater size muffler . . . maybe a low mount option ?
Wish it had a 17" front wheel(better tires, less weight). I have no use for a 19"(all I do is asphalt).
Terrific motorcycle, $$$ be damned.
Great review. . Seems a while since the last commute
hey! I really like your videos. Can you make a video with the Yamaha niken, with two wheels at the front!
Nice! But totally jealous...can't wait to get my bikes out again
Traction control is admittedly not of much use in sunny SoCal. But in cold wet weather it is extremely useful. BTW Honda ST1100 had traction control 26 years ago.
Zack, I'd love to see you take out a Honda NM4. I know it's probably a long shot that such a niche model is in the press fleet, but it was ever so slightly revised for 2018, so maybe there's a chance.
At 12:17-12:18 you say OK Cruse control, and it triggered Google Assistant! 😂
Ok so if you had to pick between this ktm 1290 SA S or the BMW GS or GSA what would you pick??
Hey Zack, I owned a 1190R the first year. Great bike, but miserably hot at seat and right thigh. Did you have the same heat issue with the 1290?
Your sound quality is immaculate especially during riding. Could you tell me what setup you used? Thanks for the video!
Fantastic video yet again. Struggling with a very hard decision I have to make....do I buy one of these or a GS!!
Both great bikes but I reckon for the cool/fun factor get the KTM!
I think the Super Adventure T was the best of all worlds, larger tank for touring, it had spoke wheels for off-road, it had factory crash bars also for off road use, it has better wind protection for touring and the same size wheels as the S for handling. I would be hard pressed to buy the “S” model over a Super Duke GT.
This man is a hero
I made a video on the adventure R which i loved!!! Looks like i will buy one in a couple of months
Zack,What gloves are you wearing in the video? Nice combo of subtle style and protection it looks like.
I'm also 6'2 and my Tiger Explorer is really nice for a taller dude. As was the Super Tenere when I tried it, haven't tried the ktm but I really would like a ride on this bike
So what is your comparison the KTM 1290 and the Multistrada 1200 or 1260? Im torn between the two!!!! Whats your take?
No dank whoolie on the last road into work :(. Sick bike though, what a powerhouse!
best review on this bike to date
Have you watched fortnine
Are the heated grips warm enough? On my 1190 ADV I didn't like them compared to the Oxford Grips...
Cruise on. Hit slippery surface (ice?). Risk is cruise keeps feeding in throttle, wheel breaks traction, cruise gives more throttle slide becomes uncontrollable, rider has a bad day. Maybe. 9:05
Aidan Holmes Good thinking
I think it's a legality issue too. if the rider got injured, the company might be held liable for it. Also, why would you need the cruise control on with the TC off?
Because it is a chore to turn TC on every time you want to turn the cruise control on. Maybe if hitting cruise control also turned on TC and turning it off turned TC back off as well, it would be pretty much not an issue.
But then again, we are talking about company that turns TC on every time you turn the key off on a 690 enduro, have fun climbing hills then... :D
Exactly. Cruise control without traction control would be an absolute death trap in snowy conditions on the freeway.
Also prevents someone from using cruise control while riding on dirt which might not go well too!
Masterclass review!!
"Roasted Buns"?? Had the privilege of test riding the 2017 1290 SAS for 4hrs. The only negative was the heat the bike produced. Please share with us your experience on the 2018 model. Thanks.
Please do the Super Duke GT , awesome video thanks
Hey Zack, You covered just about everything that could be covered. I would have liked more info on the lights (headlight) pros and cons?
This one was great, cheers:-)
Another great MC Commute. Any chance of doing the Duke 390?
You tried turning traction control off while cruise control is on?does it work like that?
Zack, How is the Seat Comfort? Is it Firm or Soft? How is the seat build. Is it narrow or Wide enough for longer rides?
How is the wind turbulence on the helmet Zack? I'm 6ft2-6ft3 like you, and small screens usually give me A LOT of buffeting on the helmet. I rode a few times a tiger 1050 and a s1000xr of friends and wind wise i find less annoying the wind on my sd1290
Hey, MC. Any chance of an update on this one with the new turn by turn display feature?
12:51 after several months of wet miserable winter with slippery, crud covered roads I have to admit I was having palpitations when he started leaning it that far :-D
Hey zack! Which motorcycle gloves are those ? Also what jacket do you wear ?
nice commute Zack. but would you rather have this or the r1200gs ?
Wildlife on the road - Bobcat, classic!!
Late to video. How would you rate the super adventure r for a daily? Dealer has a used one I’m considering but i want something where I can have fun on twisties and whatnot (understanding I would have to swap out the knobby tires for street tires). Could you also potentially swap out the r wheels and tires for the s wheels and tires?
KTM claims 160hp for this version as well, seems odd that it only showed 128hp, were you measuring it in 3rd gear? I hear 3rd gear is closest to a direct ratio
Zach! How many pairs of gloves do you have?! And, honestly for simple rollin around town , what's your favorite?
Hi Zack. Question, how does this compare with the BMW GSA?
VANVAN200!! Now there is a real adventure bike
Would like to see either the 390 Duke or the 690 Duke. Actually would like to see both.
Zack, when are you going to ride one of the larger sport touring motorcycles like a Yamaha FJR1300 or a BMW R1200RT?
Most badass look I've seen on motorcycle. Absolutely loving this new look from KTM, now if only I could afford to drop $20k for this bike including some of the accessories.
I had a chance to try that bike. It is pretty nice.
I love this bike! Easily the best bike on the market.
are there any underseat heating issue and the temp where you riding please consider
Zack great review but i've read that the traction control is actual quite good on the 1290S and that in sport it even lets you wheelie for as long as you want. You had it in road so propably that's why it cut the power when wheelied until you turned it off. Next time you ride one of these have a go on the Sport mode, I'm curious to know if it is actually like that. Power wheelies are the most fun of the commuting part anyways
NinjaKat nope. Sports mode wont let you wheelie at all. I own the bike for 5k miles now. And you can only wheelie once you turn of the tc
They should have just used the same 'control scheme' as the Super Duke R (calibrated for the ADV of course) and called it a day.
Dohan Kuswardi funny... My adv R Does wheelie in sport mode
how was the fuel consumption? (normal driving) + Maintenance cost?
The bike can’t see the road, but it can sense the speed of the bike. So if you’re riding in the rain with cruise control on and your rear tire loses traction, causing you to slow down even a little, the bike is going to try to get you back up to speed. It doesn’t know the road is wet and the rear tire doesn’t have traction with traction control off so it’ll probably just end up flooring it when you already don’t have traction. That’s my best guess
I'd love to see a V-Strom commute.
Wonder what are your opinions on the newest model and comparing it with the Versys.
Great video!
DL1000XT please!
Lifted_Above both of them please!
DL650XT and the DL1000XT!
I'm planning on trading for a new 1000XT tomorrow. :D
Lifted_Above this is amazing. Currently I have a 2011 bandit 650, but I'm planning on trading it for the new Strom 650 XT. The problem is the price at the moment in Brazil.
For the same amount of money, one can buy a F800GS 2018 slightly used. It's priced at R$41.000,00 reais, and there are F800 2018 for 38-40k here. I'm not looking forward on a BMW, but the price is crazy right now.
Yeah I live in the USA. The discounts on bikes right now in Feb-Mar is very good.
Have you taken a ride on the DL650XT? I believe you'll absolutely love that 645cc Vtwin engine.
Liked before the end of the video, just because of the backing it in thumbnail ...
Did you say why it has street tires? I know in the beginning you said more about that later but don't remember hearing it.
Super good cool nice stuff. Great success!!
How does the S compare to the T? I commute 60 miles a day and like only having to get fuel once a week on my ST1100. I’m on the fence of which way I should go. It will only see mild off-roading, probably 90 percent pavement.
Spring is just around the corner guys!!!!