GuliKit KK3 Max Review-$80 Hall Effect Pro Controller (Almost Perfect)
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- This gamepad packs a ton of features into an $80 package, if you can find it in stock. Let's unbox, test, and review this budget pro controller on several categories and find out if this is the anti stick drift king we have been looking for.
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0:00 This is What We Wanted
1:50 Disclaimer
2:06 Summary
4:39 Unboxing and Included Accessories
9:12 Cosmetics
10:27 Comfort
11:06 Build Quality/QC Rep/Warranty
12:07 Dpad
12:45 Face buttons
13:13 Accessory Buttons
14:21 Thumbsticks
16:41 Bumpers
17:04 Triggers
18:05 Rear Buttons/Paddles
21:40 Software/App
24:07 Battery
24:48 Input Delay
28:37 Converter Support
29:47 Cons
31:18 Pros
33:46 Verdict
34:53 Outro
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Correction: I say a few times in the video "RGB". The lighting is actually a static bluish white color and can't be changed but can be dimmed and turned completely off.
link for this adapters, converters?
Hey please check out the controllers for the onexplayer 2 with the adapter I would like to see your review for it
Question does the motion sensor works on this controller when playing FPS games on Xbox series X/S when using the wingman converter?
YOU MEAN THE LGBTQ LIGHTS! HAHAHA XD
Gamer Heaven you talked about the dpad being no Bueno for fighting games, what controller do you recomend with a dpad for fighting and retro games?could you recomend me the best ( spared no expenses 🦕) and a cheap option?
I just decided to order one, you're videos are still as close to being in the store and it's much appreciated like always brother!
Been waiting for this one, just ordered mine, thanks for the great review
Hope you enjoy it!
Your intro alone made me hit the like button! Love the vid, keep up the great work!
THE BEST INTRO OF ALL UA-camRS AND all your intro and vids are the BEST been following you since the beginning
My birthday is actually next week, February 4th. This review, paired with the release of this controller gives me just enough time to get this controller for myself!
Love that
Me too! Twins
@@temperd9943me too, triplets
@@GamerHeavenOfficial could you make a video for the best custom controller for a ps5 thats for 100 dollars ?
I have literally been waiting on you to test this gamepad since I 1st heard it announced ..MONTHSSS .. ago ... Glad to know it was worth the wait !!
That makes me happy to hear
Their website advertises it too
Don’t buy it. The triggers dead zone is extremely high!!!!!!! You can’t change it. Thumbs dead zone you can go raw mode or 10% like only. Nothing else to choose from.
Source? @@melon1979
Well, even before watching this: THANK YOU!
I be waiting on this review captain im really thinking about getting it for real thanks for the video.
Hope you enjoy it!
Oh Captain My Captain.....WOWZA....just another in-depth stellar review. Hitting all the marks and answering all the stallion's and stallionette's questions even before we knew we had them!
Thanks Frank!
The review I was waiting the most
here it is
Awesome! Been waiting to hear your thoughts on the KK3! Almost as long as I've been waiting for the damn thing to come out!
I love your brutally honest reviews
Thank you David
Your reviews are the most entertaining. ❤🎉
Great review, your gulikit 2 video is what made me a fan of your channel
Thank you, that’s awesome to hear
Loved the vid as always! I’m rocking a razer raiju which I use for fps as it’s super responsive (stick wise) with 0 drift, an Elite series 2 for action/adventure or more casual games (seriously the most comfortable and good looking controller I’ve owned and love the customisation/profile options) and I have a flydigi Vader 3 pro on the way ❤
Loving the looks of this one too!
I got this controller and I could say it's the best money I spent on a controller with this many features and this many innovations
Still working well?
Amazing review! Love your content!
I've been waiting for this thank you
No problem
I pre-ordered mine yesterday. I have the 2 and it's awesome.
Just bought mine excited 🎉🎉🎉
Sorry, but that usb C cable is not lackluster, it is extremely good, its great quality and its FUCKING LOOOOOOOONG.
Gullikit should make a PlayStation controller I would instantly buy.
they won't, Sony doesn't like third parties.
Does this work on Xbox?
@@soobok13 using goku adaptor (about 15 dlls) yes.
@tonylolu How is your performance?, do you have decrements?, how is the latency with respect to aiming?
I’d like some PlayStation buttons, too. Already includes Nintendo/Xbox style buttons.
Mine arrives this Friday. Can't wait to test it.
nice bro
What do you think?
Just got mine today! I'm no connoisseur of controllers, but initial impressions based on feel and options is very good. I usually only play keyboard and mouse, but for those rare occasions I do feel like I need a controller, this seems like the perfect fit.
This would have been awesome if it was also a officially licensed controller for Xbox as well, I would've picked this up ASAP. Awesome review, keep up the great work! 👌
Just got this thing from an auction site for $10.64 (it was an Amazon return). It’s never been opened. It seems identical to my elite 2 but the remapping on the fly is awesome. Great controller and review.
Intro rhymes alone earned my sub! Lol🔥
Is the Goku Adapter the best option for console compatibility for the KK3 Max?
Thanks for the review!! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I'm still using my Guliking King Kong Pro 2, it has been awesome. When I upgrade I'll definitely switch to this one.
I like the half-domes up top and the smaller paddles on the bottom. But with that said I don't map stuff to the half-domes that I use very much and intentionally want them a bit harder to press to avoid accidental presses.
Welp this was all I need to know. I'll have to pick this up. Thanks for the intel on this one. Looks like it gets me damn close to my Xbox elite series 2.
Just got it on sale for 63$! Thanks for an amazing review, just found your channel, dropping a sub. Amazing.
Awesome! Thank you!
If they fix the d pad it would be damn near flawless. I have a pro 2 and love it, only issues I've had after about a year and a half of heavy use is connectivity and comfort. For some reason it would would only connect to my switch and no one else's. No issues on pc. The way I hold the controller rubs and grinds into my left middle finger and it hurts after long sessions. I'll definitely be picking one of these up, looks like a sick upgrade.
I will 10000% buying one! Thanks a for the amazing review!
Hope you enjoy it Dojay
Did you buy one yet? What are your thoughts?
@@SofaKingA I did get one. I love everything about it, but the triggers the trigger stops broke two weeks in.
@@Dojaycat Yeah I heard there were some QC issues with it so I held off. Then I realized learning controller for call of duty is damn hard after playing MnK for decades so I returned the controllers I bought anyway. Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you so much for this video kind stranger. At last I can stop buying a new controller every 3 months!
Finally I have been waiting for a good controller that's also affordable
I could hear your thumbnail thanks for the dose of nostalgia 😄
That’s what I was goin for lol.
hard to imagine not using my scuff envision but this has had my eye for a bit
How do you like the envision? Do you have the pro or regular
Love your videos! next video on the FlyDigi Apex 4 please 😂
I got you!
Thanks for the video,.For $80 is a damn good controller, fast/responsive sticks, looks great too, hopefully for their next controller the dpad, trigger stops and back paddles will be that bit better, other than that i agree for 80 it's definitely a buy for anyone.
Hey Mark. Hope You’ve been doing good. Yeah it’s a a great controller that won’t shred your wallet
Finally, this controller has been reviewed. I want this controller when I got my money but at the same time, Flydigi Vader 3 Pro got a huge discount so I'm on the fence what to get
Flydigi mecha buttons are just so good. Much better than my razer wolverine. Recently my apex 2 got double click issue after 2 years. I know that this is the risk of using mouse switches. But i still ordered vader 3 as replacement cuz of how good the buttons are. Hope this one can last longer
@@maverichz i do hope the discount on the controller is still there when I get my money. I really want a capable controller for both pc and mobile
The Vader 3 Pro is known to have weak centering springs, that causes drift (yeah, in a Hall effect stick, go figure), So I wouldn't buy it. Way Overhyped for what it is.
@@avaraz6941 Yea, i know about it, QC issue happened to some ppl. But aside from drift, the buttons quality is not overhype. I own several controllers and the button feels of Flydigi mecha buttons are way above any others including Razer mecha buttons.
Wait I’ve been watching ya vids but now I’m subscribed 😂😂😂
Now it’s official
Awesome in-depth review, as always. Been thinking of getting this but the lack of clicky mechanical buttons and, that pre-travel on triggers is a bummer.
Currently, I'm rockin' the Easysmx x10 as my daily. It has less features than the KK3 but it's pretty hard to beat at 50$.
Thanks again, man.
I can't choose between Gamesir t4 Cyclone pro amd Easysmx mechanic master x10. How was the controller? Hiw long have been using it?
Can't speak about the Cyclone Pro, sorry. Been almost a month since I used the X10. So far, no issues encountered yet.
I also don't have a large collection of controllers but the X10's sticks have the smoothest rotations from controllers I've used, by far. (I have DS3, DS4, Dual Sense, XB 1, XB 360, KK2 Pro, SN30 Pro + and NS Pro)
Gamesir G7 SE is a very good controller to consider as well!
@@cujoman187 it's always sold out or out of stock in my country
pre travel is easily fixed with a shim. and the kk2 clicky buttons are able to be swapped in
Gotta say I have been extremely impressed with this controller, especially at it's price point of $80. Been using it for the last few days, I would say I like it as much if not more than my elite 2 and battle beaver custom controllers. Wish the trigger stops had a little less travel, and if I'm nitpicking the bend on the bottom two paddles is slightly odd, but it doesn't impact my comfort or gaming at all. The sticks feel great and the controller is very responsive overall. Thanks for the review.
BTW I got it on Aliexpress because I was tired of waiting for it on Amazon. Got it in about two weeks and everything is fine but I would have rather went the Amazon route as the seller there seems to be very active on Reddit and appears to offer really good customer support.
Looking for a way to make wired connection/adapter work with MacOS, but the controller seems great so far.
The button switches inside are membrane, not microswitch, so you can get the benefit of both types by disassembling the controller to change with the installation of the King Kong 2 Pro's replacement mechanical buttons. Additionally, the thumbsticks(even though they are a tight fit compared to the King Kong 2 Pro thumbsticks). Just some info where you didn't purchase or have those that I covered.
Great review again. Just wanted to say reason why I use the headphone jack on a controller is because I play on pc in a living room. So connecting a wired headset is a no-go and don’t want to use Bluetooth headphones. Could never get spatial Audio to work on Bluetooth and like small earbuds butter than over ear headphones
Just got mine a week or so ago and I would say it is one of the best controllers I have ever tried (in my limited selection as I don't review them for a youtube channel :P). The only "issue" I would point out is the triggers (R2/L2) are spongy when in trigger mode and when in mechanical mode the distance needed to hit them issssss "alright" but it is a bit too much for proper feel imo.
Other than that so far I have had zero issues or concerns with the pad itself. Remapping the back buttons could be a touch simpler to do as it often turns on the "turbo" function of the button you are mapping to the back but turning that off is simple enough. gamepad tester reads the sticks as 0.0 error rate on both, all buttons can be hit and dont feel sticky like the kingkong pro 2's face buttons are.
Overall really nice controller.
Blue highlight, I love❤
great review!! will you also bring out a review for the flydigi apex 4? been wondering if i should get the kk3 max or the apex 4
Cant wait to get my hands on that badboy for review!
Compared to the Vader 3 Pro how much worse are the mouse triggers? Also would you say the thumbstick tension is similar to the vader, more, or less?
way worse. very similar, can't tell a difference honestly
Just got mine today, you can swap the thumbsticks out, just takes a little bit of force to pop them off. Amazon has replacement thumbsticks that include the taller right thumbstick.
new intro big W
Great review. Im assuming no rubber grip on the back? Thats always a disappointment but I still picked one up. Loved the KK Pro 2.
This controller is amazing. This is now my main controller coming from 8bitdo ultimate controller.
Tho I had firmware issue that I resolved by downgrading/upgrading the firmware.
Still, an amazing controller for the price. I already got two of these. 😅
@GamerHeavenOfficial
To prevent from having those massive outliers at the start, try spinning the sticks before you start the X-input app. This does require you to either spin the stick one handed (I lay the controller on my table and spin the analog stick with one hand) or you could use a macro to start the X-input app automatically after a few seconds while you're doing your two-handed technique.
Smart
@j.c.denton8735
Hey, can you tell me what happens if you stop spinning the stick and start to spin again? I am curious that the controller has a huge delay every time when you let the stick and move it again.
@@alexveres7339 maybe or would show correctly in process, but to be real, program shows 3000+ ms, it is more than 3sec, it's way too unrealistic, but i will try it later, I also have kk3, but with one broken stick, but it's not a problem for this test
I was going to suggest the same thing lol
@@alexveres7339 if spinning from before start there is almost no delay
Outliers: 177 / 4000
Top 10 Outliers: 9.90 ms, 9.89 ms, 7.90 ms, 4.89 ms, 4.88 ms, 4.87 ms, 3.90 ms, 3.90 ms, 3.90 ms, 3.90 ms
Min 0.501200 ms - Max 9.898900 ms - Jitter 0.039983 ms
Average 1.261094 ms - Polling Rate 792.962600 Hz
If starting and stopping while testing there is some
Outliers: 125 / 4000
Top 10 Outliers: 42.88 ms, 39.90 ms, 32.90 ms, 29.89 ms, 26.88 ms, 25.88 ms, 19.90 ms, 19.89 ms, 14.89 ms, 12.89 ms
Min 0.524700 ms - Max 42.884200 ms - Jitter 0.147081 ms
Average 1.172235 ms - Polling Rate 853.070979 Hz
I definitely wanna cop this piece
I love that phrase: cop that piece
I'm using a wolverine ultimate for my Xbox, a Razer Raiju for mobile/Gamepassing on my phone, and (depending on which is most charged when needed) either a Nitho hexa-something-or-other (I very much recommend this inexpensive, lightweight, and highly customizable controller. In the range of $20 to $30, you can't beat it's value) and a Ymir PS4 controller w/ turbo and remapable back buttons.
Just received mine, I did notice that on your complaint about the rear paddles, you can swap the paddles to the opposite side so the cutout faces up, they don't stick out as far from the controller. It feels much better to me that way. I was also wondering how you would compare this to the vader 3 pro, which seems to have many similar features for the same $.
Well, answering my own question, I feel like my Vader 3 pro is a MUCH better controller than the kk3. Actual mechanical buttons, sticks are the only redeeming quality for the kk3, but the Vader sticks are still really good. I prefer having software so kk3 on board programming just isn't good enough. So for me, I'm keeping the Vader 3 pro and if your looking for an $80 pro controller the Vader 3 pro seems to be the best option out currently for me as a PC gamer.
@@jefftaylor9250I have been looking at both and prefer the look of the Gulikit, the vader looks so cheap, will also be used just on the pc and am really just looking for good hall effect joysticks, do you also have a vader?
Well the into is gas 🔥
I really just wish that the controller case had the room for the back paddles to stay ON! Crazy that you have to remove them everytime you want to put the controller away
I just recently found this page and I gotta say, you do some amazing work. I currently have an elite series 2 but the bumpers keep breaking on me, I want to get different controller and this gulikit looks good. Would it be worth getting this to replace the series 2 ?? Could you possibly do a gulikit kk3 vs elite series 2 video??
Question does the motion sensor works on this controller when playing FPS games on Xbox series X/S when using the wingman converter?
Would be really cool if you did a controller tier list! One for PC, Xbox, PlayStation and Switch. Or whichever way you think is best to organize it.
Thanks for the review, looking to get one!.
I hope this is better than my kk2 pro, I was kinda dissapointed with it after 2 years of use.
My gripes with the original (apart from no back buttons and trigger stoppers that they obviously fixed)
Expecting to be the same:
No audio output (obvously the same)
The + and - are the start and back buttons, making them kinda akward to push mid game, if you are very accustomed to the xbox controller it takes a while to get use to but its ok.
The D-pad is HORRIBLE, its mushy and hard at the same time. Difficult to describe but horrible for long use.
The gyro sucks. Period
My right trigger started squeking like 4 months after I got it, had to lubricate the spring inside. The left was the same after 1 year.
My B-button started not registering the input after 8 months, has to disassemble the controller to clean the button
Oh and btw, if the joysticks are the same than kk2 pro, these sticks kinda suck for fighting games. Sometimes when performing and input and releasing the joystick, they snap back to the center with so much momentum that the game registers an input in the opposite direction (for instance, if you pull back and release, the game registers a forward input). Other than that, they are probably the best joysticks in the market ngl
the KK3 is a great intro to pro controllers
love how much information including the title you provide without baiting. Much appreciated
Just curious though, is linux not supported? Seems strange when mac and android is.
I think it will work using PC mode. Most controllers really don't advertise their stuff working on Linux.
@@esentries wth is pc mode
Very nice review as usual! You say they do not have mechanical button, and they do feel like membrane, but on their webside they say it's their version 2 mechanical button.. so I wonder, are they lieing.. or it's some sort of hybrid like razer mechamembrane? About the thumbstick, they do have swapable thumbstick, but they are not included for some reason, you have to buy them separately.
I've never seen a channel that goes this deep into reviewing a controller
I have the kk2 & probably won't get this as as i already have 8bitdo ultimate, easysmx10, and ps5 aim if i want back buttons. Good video 👍
Now all we need is a symetrical stick version, and I'll be happy. [I play FFXIV, The dpad above is a lot more accessible during moving w/ the left stick vs asymetrical.
Finally but can you also do the flydigi apex 4 review please
Yes
Would love to know if the elite paddles or scuf paddles for the elite work at all on this! Great review as always!
Hey DC. Thanks for that, no unfortunately neither work with the mechanism to snap in the paddles
Could that “unavoidable slowdown” in the polling rate be the reason people are reporting it to have latency issues. Any way we can get the results of a high speed camera test on the latency?
I dont know if you already know or if someone already mentioned. But the reason you got the stickdrift out of the box is because the zero deadzone mode is turned on. I dont know why they did not include this setting in the manual. But the way you turn it on or off is the hold the wheel icon (as with every option) and the the suare icon thing , the left most button down in the middle. Your deadzone settings wil switch to -0.00002 or perfect deadzone inputs.
I got mine via ali express and some resellers ship them with 6 additionele thumbstick heights.
I wish they made one with symmetrical design like the Dualshock controllers. How much resistance do the triggers have? I play racing games a lot with controllers and I prefer heavy triggers which.
Great review! Can you map the back paddles to different buttons or are you stuck with copying the face buttons on PC?
Like can I map A/B/X/Y to numpad 1/2/3/4 and the back levers to numpad 5/6/7/8 or am I stuck with the levers also being 1/2/3/4?
Copying the face buttons unfortunately
Nice video man I just found your channel and subscribed. I do have a question which would you recommend for ps5 for playing games such as MW3 and other fps titles? I’m very interested in one with mechanical triggers. Thanks
I have 2 vanilla dual sense controllers that i swap between as one dies i put the other to charge. One recently started to give massive drift on the left stick where it will go full left tilt in racing games when I'm only applying light adjustments sending me into a wall. I was hopeful Gulikit would have already made modules for the edge controller to use hall effects, but honestly considering the price difference 200 vs 80 and have 4 back buttons vs 2 on top of already using hall effects, the official sony product is really dropping the ball for value. I like the haptic feedback on the dual sense for games that use it well but those are rare.
My good sir, This or the Vader 3 pro for best 80 dollar controller? LOVE THE VIDS BTW CHIEF!!
Looks like one of the top 2 modern controllers.
Having all the configuration on the controller is a must for me, being a non-Windows user. Hall Effect sticks are also a must - I've had enough of stick drift with the other low-quality modern controllers.
I would prefer rear buttons over paddles. I also don't like the Switch-first layout and as you say, the dpad isn't the best. Also would really like the rear buttons to be remappable to anything, not just other buttons on the controller. But no controller gets that right, so can't complain too much.
Going off your reviews, I think for me the only controllers worth considering are this one here and the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra that's $120 more expensive. Neither seem worth buying until my KK2 dies though. With any luck Valve will make a Steam Controller 2 by then for an even better experience. The original is still my most used controller.
I had a defective kingkong pro 2 stick, it had drift and it squeaked/creaked and vibrated for a while before the drift started. I contacted their support email, mentioned I was capable of soldering a new stick on since they're identical to replacing any other stick. They replied quickly, and sent me a replacement part for free, they didn't even ask for a purchase date, a picture of the controller, or anything.
I had also experienced a weird issue with a joycon stick from them, where it would move from left to right incredibly quickly when viewed in the Switches joystick calibration page. I mentioned it in my correspondence with the customer service person, and they sent me one of these for free, as well.
10/10 customer service in my opinion, I've never had such a simple experience getting parts from a company before. I'll most likely buy this controller as well due to how they handled those issues
I’d just like to know where I could get those rear paddles from. I’d like to try them out versus the standard ones I’ve been using on my elites.
Just ordered mine
Thanks for the video, can you remap buttons on steam imput like you can with a ps4/ps5 controller?
the back buttons, scuf makes a set for the elite v2 that are really good. do they fit this?
Can you use the rear paddles without binding them to other buttons? Can I bind things to it like in-game things?
I prefer membrane buttons due to hand wear and noise concerns. They're not a downgrade in my view, just another option. Membranes are on many controllers for a reason.
Of course their longevity is likely lower than mechanical switches, but I've personally never had a button wear out on me very prematurely, but sticks and triggers have, so hall effect is a must.
great thorough review. but you say multiple times that it doesn't have swappable thumb stick caps, it indeed does have swappable thumb stick caps. just pull the off
Great work on the video! Can you map the back paddles to a keyboard key?
Thank you my friend, unfortunately reWASD and Steam don’t allow you to remap to keyboard bindings, but hopefully with an update
That wireless speed is impressive
Can you tell us your number 1 pick for a controller right now with no budget in mind. I've had the elite 2 and others and I'm looking at the Envision Pro after watching your review but, the missing haptic feedback is keeping me from getting it. So many options but what's the top dog at this point? Thanks for your contribution to the gaming community.
It's possible to calibrate the sticks like gamesir do? I mean when you move in circle the sticks for 3 times, something like this
I wanted so much to like this controller but the back paddle just isnt nearly as comfortable as the elite series 2 with scuf paddles.
Watching this while still waiting for my custom Hypr I ordered 11/26 lol...also could you just slam those paddles in a vise grip grab some pliers, and bend them to match the upper ones?
Damn that’s a longgg ass wait. Yes you could, I plan to. Have a good one
I rly wish you could program button combinations onto the back pedals. Otherwise I'm rly happy with this controller
Is the stick really not removeable? KK2 does have removeable thumbstick although you need to buy it as separate accessories so I assume this controller is like that. If it is removable, can you check whether KK2 stick fit in there? also probably test whether the button for KK2 is compatible for this controller. I want to test it myself but it is in preorder and probably arriving at the end of February.
The main appeal for me would be the half-dome paddles, which I find very comfortable on the Dualsense Edge. Would you say they fit well on this controller despite the difference in ergonomics as compared to the Edge?
To me I feel they do. I found it best to have paddles on the bottom, half domes up top. The half domes are noticeably harder to press in than the paddles, my guess is because they have less leverage but still not bad. I find them comfortable.
Yes they transfer over well