How to Silence Any Tree Stand!! DIY Tips
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2015
- How to silence a tree stand, climbing sticks, and buckles... Instead of blindly adding silencing material to a stand system, try to replicate noise as it could occur during use to find and eliminate the root cause. I use Stealth Strips, a product by stealth outdoors, rubber bicycle tubing, and have used felt and camo cloth tape in the past. Part of the video is a tutorial on installing stealth strips onto climbing sticks, and silencing buckles with bicycle tubing.
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Link to the 5/16" rope that I used.
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I watched it again friend. I think you do a great job on just about everything you tinker with. I always pick up ideas from you. Keep tinkering and I'll keep watching. Thanks
It seems that everytime I trying to figure out how to do something you come up with my solution. Great video and perfect timing for me.
bar5721 Well glad it helped! Right now I'm evaluating replacing the Lone Wolf straps and buckles entirely with 8mm static rope to eliminate weight and a source of noise. Should have a comparison video within the next few days or so.
Good stuff.. I finally got tired of buying tree stands because like you mentioned, they ALL make noise or creak like an old door in a haunted house.
I make my own now and use aluminum tubing for the entire stand, all welded by me. I only use a small piece of 3/8" plywood for the seat bottom which has a 3" thick piece of foam covered with fleece which is then bolted to the stands aluminum seat frame. I use 5/16" coated stainless cable for the platform tie backs. My stands have zero noise or creaking when standing, moving or sitting...
Great tips man, I will for sure be using these in the upcoming months!
I was able to wrap my sticks and then just cut a + where the hole is and force the bolt thru, this way you have the stealth strip under the washer too. It was thin enough not to effect the bolt and hardware attachment.
Great tips & great video Garrett!
Excellent tips as usual. Thanks for sharing.
I used kayak paddle grips called yakgrips for covering the buckles...
Great ideas. I'll be doing this soon!!!
great video as always!
Thanks for the how-to on the stick coverings! The Stealth Strips I received didn't come with a narrow and wide strip in the backing. It's all one-piece backing now. But they should still work fine. Might just be a little different to apply.
I really enjoy your tips and reviews. Great information! What size and length of rope did you need for your stand?
Huuummm have to review my setup !!! Thxs brother !!!
Very informative. Thanks.
Nice set up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice stuff.i wish I had your patience
Great tips. I never would have thought about that. I have been looking at lone wolf climbing stands but I haven't decided yet.
Depending on the terrain you hunt I would look strongly at a hang on instead of a climber. I know where I'm at, trees are everywhere, but straight trees with no branches are very tough to find, especially in some of the thicker areas deer feel comfortable in.
I probably will go with a hang on because I'm not in the greatest of shape but I can't drive and I would probably have just day hunts. I'm getting a lone wolf regaurdless.
Got a hand climber. I scouted a place with my buddy and it has climate trees abound. Climbing isn't an issue like I thought it would be.
I use Yak grips on my buckels..I cut them in half them sew the cut side. Works awesome..
Good Tips Thanks
Great video as always! Do you think you could do a video on all your filming gear?
Logan Chatos Have you watched my 3 part video on self filming? The Sony NEX-5r is basically my main camera now, with a Rode Videomic going into a Tascam DR-05 recorder, and a Sony AS100V for 2nd angle. Is there anything in particular you want me to go over in depth?
I have watched them! They are great videos and have helped me a lot! It seems you do a fair amount of public land hunting which means your going to be packing in and out stand, sticks, camera gear, etc. If a morning hunt planned for an all day hunt doesn't go as hoped or wind direction other elements that play in change to your dis advantage do you have a procedure for the fastest way to take down pack up and move to a different location in a very timely manor? Also I realize that weight is a big key into filming gear. I'm in the process of putting together my filming gear arsenal. So one of my bigger questions is how do you get all you pack all your gear in out get it set up pick your priority filming gear to take in to keep it as simple as possible? I do realize the only real way to fit it to me and my style of hunting is trial and error but I want to narrow it down to the smallest changes to fit me. Thanks for your time!
Logan Chatos Yea that's a good idea for a video. The "process". It's always being tweaked or changed, but I think I developed a pretty decent trick last fall that makes it easier. I'll work on the outline today and hopefully film it sometime this week.
I'm thinking about trying the EZhang hook from lone wolf for my stand this year. I don't think I've seen you use one in the past, but have you ever tried one for hanging your stand? I'm also looking at new backpack straps and see you use a couple gun slings. Have you ever looked at trying alice backpack straps? Thoughts? Finally, I think I'm going to get a new pad seat this year as the 15yr old foam seat has seen better days. How do you like the new foam seats by lone wolf, thick vs thin? Thanks, always enjoy the videos.
I've never tried the EZ hook. My stand was made in 2005 and I believe the next year they started making them EZ hook compatible. But they do seem like they would make hanging the stand a fair amount easier. I think my straps are just generic camo backpack straps. They aren't very padded, but I'm still young so the weight of the stand doesn't dig in and bother me that much. I know a lot of people use heavier pads. I think there is at least one thread on Alice straps on The Hunting Beast. Adds comfort but also a little larger profile in the tree. I've never had an issue with the thin seat, but haven't tried the thick one.
Hey, thank you for all the advice your putting out there. It has help me out a lot by preparing in advance instead of learning the hard way in the field. I'm transitioning from climbers to hang on and had an idea about silencing the sticks, looking for your advice and/or sharing my thoughts . I was thinking of buying "Flex Seal" (as seen on tv) spray or liquid (for dipping). What's your thoughts? Not sure if the dip would add more then wanted weight. Probably going to buy a cheap stick and test it.
I tested this before (with the spray) on some pieces of metal pipe I had laying around. Did not do much for silencing metal on metal noise. I did about 4 or 5 coats. Dipping them might work better, but would probably add more weight than the stealth strips. Another option I've seen is stretching bicycle inner tube over the stick. Stealth strips seem like the best option to me, I'm actually applying them to my LW sticks right now. Hope this is helpful.
TRY MY ROPELADDER IDEAS ITS MORE SILENT.
Think I'm gonna try a camo vinyl wrap for cars. Comes in bulk and I think it's decently Ridgid.
Regarding your new bow holder... I just got mine but have yet to install it. I can only assume that if you want to stand and need to flip the seat up ( not much room on my lone wolf platform otherwise) that I will be left to hold my in my hand?
Ben Brilmyer Yea that's correct.
FOR MY TREESTANDS I ALWAYS USE A LONG ROPE LADDER ITS LOTS MORE SILENT.TRY IT AND SEE FOR YOURSELF
Interesting. Never thought of that. Reminds me of that carnival game where you have to ring the bell at the end.
How hard is it to peel off the Stealth Strips like you did with the square patch to make the steps fit together better? I'm thinking of putting the Stealth Strips on first then tracing the washers, etc and then using an exacto knife for a nice finished look.
+MrWhitetail It's not too hard once you do the scoring with a knife.
Hey man. Your videos are great. I'm addicted to UA-cam and look for your new videos every day. I kind of a budget guy. I'm one of cheap asses in the $29.99 stand scaring all the deer over to you. I've been looking at a stand like the one in this video but that seat just looks like blood clot waiting to happen. I can't imagine sitting in that all day. Is it truely comfortable? Can you recommend an all day stand or seat cushions? Also, can you recommend things to do in a stand for a new bow hunter? I've rifle hunted for years but at 500 yards in a box blind, options are endless. 10 yards from a trail on an aluminum platform, I'm clueless!
+mictjustin It's not the most comfortable. Generally I stand up and stretch as needed on an all day sit. Some guys buy replacement pads that are thicker and attach them. The most comfortable stand I've ever sat in is the Millenium M100. They make a lighter model now, the M100U, and the 8.5lb Microlite. They have fabric suspented between supports for the seat, so it's kind of like sitting on a lawn chair. From a silence perspective, cast aluminum like the Lone Wolfs will always be the best. It really comes into its own in cold weather, then welded or bolted stands start to creak.
Biggest thing when hunting close from a stand is to move slow and deliberately. If you can see the deer's eyes, it can see your movement. Early season is a bit easier to get away with movement, but once the leaves drop you're really exposed. I like to hang stands in trees with lots of cover. Being surrounded by a larger tree or evergreens gives you a chance to draw back when the deer's vision is obstructed. If hunting from a smaller tree, you have to be even more careful because standing up fast can cause the upper branches to shake and give you away.
I know this video is a year and a half old, but hoping you might see this question. Why cut out for the nylon washers, why not leave the material there for extra damping? Or are you concerned the material will wear through and then create play in the assembly?
+Thomas Ceruzzi If you don't make cutouts for the washers the tape can get a little gummy because there's a lot of compression there.
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Do you have a video on the rope wrapping on the stand? How to start and finish the rope and knots?
No, I just tie standard square knots and burn the ends.
I used xacto knife to cut out holes vs scissors.
Thanks for all the tips. I made the inner tube buckle cover for the loan wolf sticks but was unable to re-thread the buckle. Tried for hours. Is there something I am missing?
+Cochise Quanna It can be challenging because it's a tight fit. Make sure you're opening the latch as far as it will go, get it started, and try to wiggle it through to where you can grab and pull from the other side.
Thanks I finally got it. Only one buckle was real stubborn the rest were pretty easy. Also, put on the stealth strips per your instruction and the sticks are working great. Huge thank you for sharing all the great tips and insights. Very much appreciated.
I was getting frustrated too. So I just cut the end off and threaded it through and then tied a knot in the very end.
A ROPE LADDER IS LOTS MORE SILENT FOR ANY STAND.FROM THE STAND TO THE BLIND IF YOU HAVE ONE NEAR BY.
Sweet tutorial on silencing stand and climbing sticks - but I guess you might need a tutorial on sharpening that swiss army knife that you got, looks a bit like it lost its edge. I got to do some shopping for these silencing materials, I got inner tubing, felt and neoprene, but none of your great sticky stuff.
Sideshowbobx Yea I just bought a nice sharpening stone a couple weeks ago and have finally had a chance to put a good edge on it lol. I hate using dull knives.
If it doesn't got an edge, it is a spoon and not a knife. I don't know what grid your new stone has but if it past the 2000 mark better start out on some lower grid wet sanding paper for the initial edge. A buddy of mine just bought a 8000 grid wet stone and confused that he couldn't form a edge on one of his pocket spoons. All he managed was to shine it up. I bought him a kit of 280-2000 grid paper for a fast fix and now he gets them to razor sharpness too.
What length bungees are you using to attach your sticks and gear to your hangon? Thanks!
They look to be around 18", bit some of them have a couple knots to get the best tension.
Have you ever considered switching to a rope system instead of the buckles? I find it works just as quickly as buckles, it's dead silent, and weighs much less. Loop it around, under the speed button, add a half hitch or two, and you're done. Just passing on info I found to be helpful. Good hunting this season!
Westley Puse In the past I wasn't sure how well a couple half hitches would hold up vs the sureness of a loop over the versa button. If you've tried it and it holds up well, it might be worth taking another look at. Also I wasn't sure how easily it would be to attach around large trees when right now I basically use the weight of the buckle to swing the strap from one hand to another on the backside of the tree.
Here's a mod I just found where a guy added cam cleats to the sticks to use with rope:
www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1941366
Another link with the mod you've described:
www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1825660
A link to the rope "Constrictors" built to replace the buckles:
www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=664190&highlight=constrictors
Westley Puse Thanks for the link. I think I will try that. Do you know what the diameter of the Muddy Safeline rope is? I will probably just buy some non-stretch climbing spec rope from REI.
DIY Sportsman My calipers say about 8.5mm (maybe 9mm nominal size rope?) or around .340"...I spent quite a while researching what rope would work best and I honestly couldn't find a much simpler and cost effective solution than the muddy line. Let me know what you find at REI. I'm confident you'll find this rope system as helpful as I did for packing in light and quiet!
Thanks, yea it seems pretty ideal. I was thinking about a 9mm static line if they sell that by the foot, and of course a neutral color. I'll let you know what I end up with.
What did you end up with?
what are the two brands of hang on stands you have showing at 4:39 ?
Sean Dyer XOP and Leverage
They are lone wolf stands
Hi bud, what kind of boots were you wearing in the video..thanks,name brand please
+Bobcat Greene Cabelas Meindl Ultralight
How many feet of rope is needed to tie the cobra knot around the outer edge of the lone wolf stand shown in the video?
I'm not exactly sure. I just bought the coil from Amazon and wrapped until it was finished with some leftover. How much was actually used I dont know
thank you a lot to share !!!!
What do you use to film ?
In this video I used a Sony NEX 5R, but I also have a Sony HDR CX240 I've used a lot recently and a Sony AS100V. A lot of my older videos were a Canon Vixia HF S100. And I use a Tascam DR-05 with Giant Squid Audio Lav for talking on camera.
Thank you a lot. Is sony nex5R you best camera to shoot into the woods?
+Fabbri Fabbri It wouldn't be my first choice anymore because some of the technology is outdated. It produces good video quality, the ability to adapt numerous lenses, and take great timelapses, but it's a little harder for self filming because of the lack of mic port, build in ND filters, and other features present on most prosumer camcorders.
So, what camcorder do you think to use in the woods, if you will have to buy a new one, to film hunting and other tutorials like the useful ones you did?
If I were to go out and just pick one today, I'd probably choose the Sony FDR-AX100K. It has a large sensor, plenty of software options, physical dedicated buttons for many manual functions, and plenty of recording options, including XAVC and 4k, so it won't be outdated for quite a while.
Wow thread the strap back through the buckle at the end is crazy difficult. Any tips?
+UTGrad Walker If you cut off the sewn doubled over section at the end, cut the strap at a slight angle, and then singe the cut lightly to keep it from fraying, it will be much easier. It is also possible for it to back out all the way though. If you really push the buckle down and wiggle the strap just right, you should be able to get the end through far enough to grap or pull with a needle.
DIY Sportsman I was able to push both through with much effort but it can be done. Isn’t the doubled over end for safety? BTW great mod. I did both straps for the stand. I stealth stripped the buckles on my sticks but will probably do the inner tube mod as well.
+UTGrad Walker You're correct, the doubled over portion is for safety, to prevent the strap from backing out all the way through the buckle. Removing it does make it easier to thread, but comes with the added risk.
Loop a thin wire through the doubled end. Feed wire through and pull.
Can I ask how you went about fastening that rope to the outer edge of the platform?
Ben Brilmyer So in the center it's all just wrapped around the edge of the stand. On the ends, to tie off, I left the last couple loops loose. Then I took the tag end and ran it back through those loops. Then I tightened, tied a quick little overhand knot in the tag end, and burned the end with a lighter.
+DIY Sportsman if you do a video on how you did this please let me know
What are you doing with that Voith Swiss Army Knife??
Has anyone tried not cutting 1" circles for the washer and just the hole for the bolt? leaving the strip between the stick and the washer? Any reason not to do this?
What can sometimes happen with that is the stealth strip twisting and stretching under the washer. Other times it works fine though.
Wouldn’t paracord work well for this wrapping the stand part?
Yes, you can use paracord as well.
Do you have any issues with scent from the rubber
The rubber inner tube on the climbing sticks
I had the same thought. I plan to buy some tubing and leaving it outside to air out...for a long time!
@@acmund I've had mine outside for 2 weeks right now and they still have a slight odor. I just use the rope mod. DIY Sportsman has a video on how to do it.
acmund I would think that leaving it out in the elements will only help it dry rot faster. My question is, are deer even spooked by rubber?
Cheapest, vet wrap from places like Mills Fleet Farm.
How would I be silent while using a climbing stand to climb the tree
+ParadisePeakOutdoors You can silence the metal with fabric or stealth strips. But for the bark noise the only thing I'm aware of is to pick smoother barked trees and make slow, controlled movements.
did you cut your LoneWolf sticks down???
Those are old Lone Wolf mini sticks in this video. They dont make them that size anymore.
Man I need to figure out how to attach backpack straps on my tree stand
Jeffro Lans kind of like this one in the video but at this point it doesn’t matter lol..I haven’t had a chance to go anywhere this season and with a month left in the season I don’t see my chances getting any better. I live to far from everything lol..I’ll just stick to fishing..been after a deer for 5 years now and to be honest I’m done chasing that ghost..
Is this the original assault stand?
Not original, but an early model
I auctually bought a Big Dog "Tomcat" treestand-$30- at menards and I've had no noise problems at all.......
+Ben Koser (bakos28) Have you had it out in sub 15 degree temps for extended sits? That was the biggest problem I've seen with the cheap stands. On warm hunts they often do alright from a noise standpoint.
+DIY Sportsman currently where I am it hasn't been below 20 degrees with this wacky weather..... It should get cold soon though I'll get back to you.... It has no metal on metal so I think it will be fine
+DIY Sportsman hey I've finally been out in the cold and it was basically dead silent except wildlife movement id recommend this stand
@@BenKoser still holding up? No noise?
Has any one tired using Spray on plasti dip to deaden sound?
I think people have, though I've heard it isnt always very durable.
@@DIYSportsman I just did some base testing on this and it works but your assumptions are correct. Now the question is if it there's a spray-able product on the market with better bonding properties, and rubberized. It certainly worked at deadening the sound do a dull thud but plasti dip is designed to be easily removed.
Just look on youtube how to make them
What kind of bow holder do you have attached to the seat? How has that been working? I have an older stand like yours and my bow does not fit in the holder well. I've been using a bow arm from HAWK hawkhunting.myshopify.com/collections/accessories/products/xtendible-bow-arm
I think its one of the best out there, very light and lots of adjustability. I'm always interested in what everyone else uses and how it works for them.
Great video, keep up great work.
Bryan Amundson It's the Third Hand Archery Universal Bow Holder. I only just installed it last winter and haven't been able to try it too much. What I like about it though is that it's one less thing to pull out of a pack and attach to the tree... and it's the least amount of movement to grab my bow since it's right next to my bow hand. The Hawk Xtendible one looks alright. I can't use it or any screw-in bowholder do to local public land laws. In the past I've used the Lone Wolf Utility belt, and have actually also 3D printed one of my own design that attaches with just paracord... no metal. But even then your bow is right tight up against the tree and requires twisting of the torso to grab it.
I never have nor ever will hunt in thise treestands i just build my own 2 inch square pipe or 1 1/2 inch and weld steps no creek crack clash or nothing just my boots hittin the metal