The Truth About Installing A Sump Pump Inside A Crawl Space! Homeowners Be Warned!
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- On this episode of The Crawl Space Show Tanner Flowers takes us throughout a new crawl space encapsulation project with an unexpected twist....THIS HOME NEEDS A SUMP PUMP! So tune in and see for yourself what situations look like that actually do require the install of a sump pump and french drain system.
Once we're finished fixing the humidity problem underneath this home's crawlspace, the air quality will not only be better, but the moisture sensor will back up every word that tanner flowers has been preaching for years!
This particular home already had an outside french drain installed around the exterior of the home's footer, way before we were ever called to the moisture project! This is common on most all of our crawl space interior french drain installs. Standing water inside a crawl space can cause so much damage! Get the problems fixed before it's too late!
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Anyone this honest and straightforward gets an A+++ in my book. I needed to know this and am appreciate your review. Thank you!
I love comments like that! Thank you! I know who I am talking to in these videos. I ain't looking for everybody to like me. I'm looking for those that are looking for the best. They know me when they find me. I appreciate you!
Thank you. I have the same problem. I have standing water dead center of my crawlspace. You confirmed what I thought I should do. My wallet and my back thank you!
Don't let the wolves get you. ;)
You're welcome.
Wait so the sales guys bad because he’s quoting a sump pump? And you’re putting in a French drain system and sump pump? I’m confused.
Who wouldn't be?
In Michigan its against code to tie into storm drains because if they back up they push the contents of the drain into your basement or crawl space. That's even with the addition of a back check. It just takes one good rain storm. They sell sump pumps because the water can be diverted away from the home into a different area where the water cant get back in. If you tie into the city storm, you're at the mercy of the city if you have an issue. This is in Michigan and the weather here can be dramatic sometimes so the codes are a little different.
Thanks for commenting!
One minute in and I'm sold! Subscribed!
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In some states it's against the law to use the city drain , as it over stresses the waste water treatment plants , especially during heavy rain storms .
Oh mercy.
Same for my jurisdiction. My city makes us keep the sump discharge 10 feet from property line. Can't drain to street.
5:09 You are tying your sump drainage into the sanitary sewer drain? That's illegal in many municipalities.
So is carrying a gun.
@@TannerFlowers Where is this that what you are doing is allowed, just out of curiousity?
@@kcmaldonado3948 somewhere under a house.
@@TannerFlowers No, I meant what municipality is allowing the sump to go into the septic drain?
@@kcmaldonado3948 atswhatisay.
Thanks Tanner!
I am encapsulating myself and having a local contractor install my Dehumidifier. They are telling me I have to have either a daylight drain or sump pump with encapsulation. 15 years living in the house. Never had any standing water issues in my crawlspace only humidity from sweating ductwork. What do you think?
Sounds like what I am mentioning here. Some houses need them. Some do not.
Thank you so much for sharing this information, Ohio base authority is charging me $35,657 is insane for a total encapsulation. I honestly think it's my sump pump that it's damaged it keeps cutting off , I have to be reset the switch.
I have to reset to switch often when it rains. I really appreciate your help!
Sounds like an electrical issue.
We had the same problem. One GFI in the crawl space for the sump pump but there was one as well in the garage in the same line. We canceled the garage one because when in use the one in crawl space stops working. That’s what a civil engineer friend said. And it works now.
Glad to hear it works!
I am nervous. this is the third quote I am getting and now I am getting a need a sub pump
Good job. 👍
Sometimes exterior French drains take water and fill up and if you connect it to your foundation drains, yeehaw! Water fills up the French drain and fills up the crawl space instead of crawl space water going out to it and then dissipating
Thanks for commenting girl. 👍
Bro you took all does shots at your competitors. And still you needed to install a subpump. 👏
Bang bang baby!
Took those words out of my mouth. It would be great video if he would just show and explain just how to solve the problems
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I Can’t believe what Tanner Flowers wrote as an answer to Jaden Cruz and Boon Touy!
BANG, BANG BABY ! What a professional! Wow! Very disappointed!
You must have thought I care?
I DO NOT.
Say whatever you wish.
Takes a certain personality type to leave certain comments.
Thanks for identifying yourself. 👍
Thank you for this video. This is what I need. I get standing water on top of my vapor barrier every Spring and I could never understand where the water was coming from.
Good news is, you can gain control of the situation! Thank you for your time.
I’m a little confused. In the beginning of this video you said don’t install a sump pump and towards the end you said that you were going to install one?
Was this done at the homeowners request?
Because once the encapsulation is done and there is a major flood or plumbing leak then without a interior French drain and sump pump that water doesn’t have a way of getting out .
Confusing video.
We have flat utility pumps if we ever needed to pump any water. Only had to do that once in almost 20 years. That one job needed a french drain really loooking back on it. Back in the day, this video in particular, I knew jack shit about drainage. This video is several years old. I had to figure all that shit out via trial and error. I saw you commented on another, more recent project too. I had it all figured out by then though. Physics is all it is. Levels. Water falls to the lowest level. If you can dig a proper pitch to your trench, you can successfully do one of these projects. That's all there is to it.
And to better answer your first question, no, I did not plan on needing any drainage work here. We arrived to begin the encapsulation, and the place was filling up with water. I declined to do the encapsulation unless the owner addressed the drainage problem. No one would do this shit right, f'n ever!!!! So....I had to do it!!!! Yeah I tied it into a drain line, because I was a dumbass on the matter, but it worked, still works, and they have never had any issues.
I learned a lot on this project. And moving forward, started selling many, many more drainage projects, and HATED ever single one that we ever fixed.
I no longer do these jobs. I have a personally trained local crew that I give all of the work to. I wish I had more trusted people throughout the country, as I get blowed up, all day, every day, from every state, wanting Tanner.
It was cool to be the guy in the beginning. But making myself the guy, because I am the guy, was a mistake in business scalability. Hard to grow when EVERYONE wants the guy.
So now, I am just a dot connector. I line up projects daily for others.
You had a right to be confused at all the bs I was spouting off in this video, cause like I said, I was an ignorant rookie on drainage matters whenever I filmed this.
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I thought I was the only one caught that. For a minute thought I was living in the twilight zone with all the cheerleaders in the comment section. Only to hear this guy say what the POS sales guy told the homeowner. Can't make this stuff up...smdh.
@kevingeorge8159 now that damn theme music is in my head from the Twilight Zone! Doo doo doo do doo doo do do....
@@TannerFlowers Lmao.....🤣🤣
Good work ethic, integrity, honesty...
I had a crook company come to my house and try to rip out a completely functional drainage system that has a lifetime warranty. He didnt test it, i never have standing water, complete crook.
This is only the 3rd sump pump we have installed in the past 12 months. And you know how many crawl spaces we are in.
Wouldn't a better french drain outside with catch basins fix this?
Good question. Most all of our projects already had outside drainage systems in place before they ever contacted me. I have lots of videos here on the topic if you are encountering these issues yourself.
.?Can’t dig in my crawl space for a French drain due to we are on ledge rock, the sump pump we have is in a 5 gallon bucket and running too much. Had to rent a Jack hammer this summer just to dig a hole for fence post. The real answer I think would be a French drain, but rocks, what do I do?
Jack hammers, drills, and rotary mason discs are the only options that come to mind.
Gosh I wish you were located in southern Louisiana.
Thank you. I just uploaded the most educational crawl space french drain video ever.
Should people just avoid buying houses with craw spaces all together?
Each situation is different.
@originalk9111 I understand.
If the water is coming from the driveway, isn't it good build a few inch high edging along the low edge if possible? Unless the drive slopes directly toward the house and in that case a channel drain or bigger channel drain, right? Gotta show the outside landscaping situation too.
I wish I would have filmed it. The owner had already done everything you mentioned. As in most of these crawl space situations. You can do whatever you want on the outside. If that crawl space ground level, is deeper than outside ground level, ground drainage water will settle into the low points, and depending on the soil/water table, come up into. I just posted an informative new construction video last week talking about all this stuff too. Thanks for commenting.
@@TannerFlowers Thanks for answering. I'm trying to plan a house so your vids are helping me to avoid errors♡♡♡ Very best wishes for '21.
You're welcome. And same to you my friend. 👍
So you need a sump pump even when it is dry bc like what happened here
If in accordance to his will.
Do you recommend an honest encapsulation contractor in Hickory NC
No. I do not suggest anyone. I have never to date, ever in my life, seen anyone, and I do mean anyone, pull off what you have been seeing us do for many, many years now.
Do you have any recommendations or affiliates in the Mount Juliet, TN area? My house is on a negative slope, and does have a drain, out into the back yard, but Im getting lot of standing water in the crawl. My crawl space ceilings are 9 or 10 feet high at back of the house and 5 to 6 feet at the front, so the work would be easier, but i dont have the know-how.
I do not know where that is.
I'm confused, does this house have a septic system or is it on a community sewage system.
I don't recall. It's what he wanted. I was going to run it outside like I always do. I don't argue with folks anymore. ;)
It would over stress a septic system , you would need to to install dry wells
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Would you have any recommendations for someone to do something like this for those of us at the other end of the state? #901?
It is the same fix everywhere. We do this exact system in multiple states. I have a lot of information available at CRAWLSPACEARTISTS.COM
Why not put the French drain outside the house foundation so water never rises under the house, never to be pumped out. Looks like sump under house encourages outside water to flow into crawl space!
Because Bill, this house, along with 99% all other inside perimeter french drain jobs we have ever done over the years, ALREADY HAD an outside perimeter french drain system, before they ever picked the phone up and called me. Good question though. Not many people truly understand drainage. We had to learn it all the hard way. Thanks for commenting.
How much would something like this job cost? I plan on purchasing a home and it has this problem. The crawlspace is even lower than this one in most places
15k-20k
@@TannerFlowers thank you for the fast response I really appreciate that! Now is that 15-20k with encapsulation or without?
@@davidb300z with. All depending on size though. And whether or not if it had a standing water issue that needed addressed, before the encapsulation project could be begun.
@@TannerFlowers sounds good. And from what I see it looks like the owner just dug out a hole for the sump pump basin and put a pump in there but there's standing water. Whats a ballpark estimate for no encapsulation, just trench and perforated hose with gravel?
Ps love the energy in your videos!
Around 900 sq ft
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Hi i have water coming from my laundry room and that room is my extension which is slab concrete. I went look to my crawspace that day i saw water on my crawlspace, we have so much rain everyday and this is first time happened. So i called foundation contractor and they said i naeed drainage and sump pump cost almost 5k. I need advice thank you
That is the only way to capture it, and re-route the water outside the home. But, if it has never happened before, you may have a problem that be corrected by addressing the actual cause. If that is not possible, it has to be caught, and re-routed.
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Never happened before since i bought this house i guess because everyday we have rain then that day happened was almost 3 inch of rain also. But ofcourse i dont want to happened again, and i heard lumberkote/waterseal good to protect wood for moisture,mold,fungus.
@@michellewalter2734 never heard of that. Yes, if it happened once then in that much rain, it will happen again likely, if it rains that much again. You will need an inside perimeter french drain system, sump pump, discharge line, wiring, plumbing, drainage gravel, drainage fabric, etc. Lots of work!
thanks for the video ... Im a new home owner and having issues w/ something similar ... I have a basment and the previous guy cut an access into the wall, that leads under an add-on room ... its not level, so water comes up through the encapsulation and runs down it to and out the access hole, and floods the basement ... I dont know much about this stuff ... but If I cut into the encapsulation at its lowest point and install a sump pump - would that solve my problem?
Really hard for me to say without seeing pictures of the project. Of course, if you can divert water to the lowest point, have a capturing system for that water to drain into, which contains a sump pump, which will discharge the water to wherever you have it exited to away from the home, then that is a pretty good way to catch it, and discharge it, hopefully before it comes a problem like it has been being for you.
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Crawlspace comedian. Get er did bro.
I will preach an entire sermon under here!
You’re saying you don’t need a sump pump until you need a sump pump?
Atswhatisay. Haha
You sound like diamond ninja dave
Judy!
Question for you sir, I have a 120 year old house that does have moisture and water seepage in my cellar and crawl space...which you can see and access from the cellar.
I had one company out already. There is wet dirt all around my crawl space, but unsure if it is really pooling... I'll have to check next heavy rain...definitely pools in my cellar floor.
They recommended two sump pumps due to how large my crawl space is and then a third for my cellar floor...which I do need.
I'm wondering two things.
1.) If the crawl space floor is just wet...damp...but not pooling do I need the sump pumps before putting in encapsulation.
2.) My back yard floods, the water does not come up to the house, but I'm sure it cant be good for my foundation. Do I need to address this first? Also, what sort of company would handle this?
Thank you for your time, really enjoying your vids.
Yes on all accounts.
If outside issues can be properly addressed, they cannot always, they can sometimes correct issues altogether, if not greatly benefit the problematic situation at hand.
If there is a risk of a standing water issue inside the crawl space, I would always suggest to address the water drainage concern first, before addressing any of the encapsulation work.
It is easier to do it before an encapsulation, than to have to go back and do it after an encapsulation has been performed.
I have several project videos available for reference.
Please view some of my recent uploads here on my channel, and go to CRAWLSPACEARTISTS.COM to see more specific info.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it.
I got a quote from my local clown for $15,000 to do this sort of thing. Clown said correcting the downspouts wouldn't matter, and he would only guarantee the job if he put a sump with a perimeter french drain in the basement. Total hard sell, trust him he's the expert, he doesn't need my business, but he has a family to feed? He said no pump required as he was going to connect it to the public utility sewer line. I didn't see any permits for plumbing in the quote. He won't put it in writing, says they're not required. So I called the city. The city engineering drainage guy came to the house for free and said it was illegal to connect to the sewer and if the downspouts were properly drained down hill more than 8 feet from the house according to code, there would be no problem at all. Maybe a couple thousand max. So be careful who you listen to. I'm still trying to get the local clown to put in writing that he connects to the sewer so I can get his license taken away.
People get taken to the cleaners on these drainage projects every day. Look at that video I posted about 2 or 3 videos ago. Unbelievable!
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Judy chop! Smh Joe dirt
How does a posi' track on a Plymouth work?
@@TannerFlowers it just does
Thank you! Haha! 👍👍👍👍
I was just laying here thinking....
it'd be funny if they answered.
Lol!
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This dude has no clue what he is talking about.
Thanks for commenting. 👍
Hey guys! Just wanted to invite you to check out our latest crawl space encapsulation project! This project is the BIGGEST crawl space we have ever done! ua-cam.com/video/F--zd4RANa0/v-deo.html
That thing is HUGE!!!
Actually learned nothing..
Actually appreciate you commenting..
My friend. You really don't know what you are talking about
Thanks for commenting my friend.
@@TannerFlowers I think our friend is a little butt hurt cuz he paid 20k for an encap with unneeded sump pump to a "pest control" company that had no clue. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!