About 20-25 years ago I bought a number of mostly or all original 1970's Harleys. Low miles, pristine condition, original paint machines. 1977 Low Rider FXS, 1977 Cafe Racer, 1978 75th anniversary Sportster, 1976 Bicentennial Sportster, 1976 Super Glide, and several others. These bikes were hard to find then, much harder now. I grew up with these bikes. Nothing like the Shovel Head sound at idle. Over time, these can be decent investments. But I own 'em 'cause I like 'em.
I really liked your take on the subject and found it much more accurate than most. I have had many Shovels through the years - I started at 19 and I'm now 63. I used to chop & customize everything now I won't even look at them if they have an S&S carb, drag pipes or worm clamps on the oil lines lol. I spent a shit load of money buying back all of those parts that I used to throw away 😢
I'm perfectly happy with Evo. Most problems were fixed. Ride more, wrench less❤ glad there are guys out there like you that keep these old bikes on the road.
I paid 6500 uk pounds for my 79 flh but it came with ultima 4 speed slick shift trans , s&s barrells and pistons , s&s super e , dyna tech Ignition ( which when set up correct makes it a two kick bike ) electric start with new starter motor uprated , PM forwards and Gma rear caliper , matching numbers and loads of issues which I’ve sorted. I rode it a mile to my house from where I purchased it , bottom line is I love the bike and ride her every day and she makes me smile and when it goes wrong it’s another lesson I learn about it , I love it and that’s what matters. It’s your money and if your happy then power and respect to you .
Bought my '81 FXS for 6k (philly area). Pretty respectable condition. But, within the first few months i had the inner primary off replacing the main shaft seal and all new clutch plates etc etc etc. Like you, is a daily rider and commutes regularly to work 20 miles. Constant maintenance. This is the nature of the beast and I love it.
Hi Paul (from the UK). What you speak is the truth about all old bikes. Most of the fruit-loops on line haven't owned a fifty minute old bike, never mind a fifty year old one. I found you on here here because the Shovelhead caught my eye. I like it.
In the NYC metro area, you’re probably looking at around $7.5k and it will most likely be a Frankenstein or else have been sitting for a while, even if you can find one. A decent Ironhead Sportster is around $5k now.
I think you are spot on here. I've been searching for a shovelhead for months now in my area and your logic and price analysis holds true here too. Ultimately I've decided to do a full ironhead build before I even consider one, just due to cost.
I have an 82 FLH and the previous owner had installed a super glide fork on it and I didn’t like that. I couldn’t find a good deal on the FLH front end that I like and I had installed a wide glide on it, but eventually I just went with a springer front end instead. I think it looks great and no worry about leaking tubes. I would never even consider selling my Shovelhead for less than $10,000. I don’t care what others think it’s worth, the newer bikes do not have that old school cool and can’t even fake it with a custom build. These are the machines that made me fall in love with Harleys as a kid.
I have worked on several Pan heads and Shovel Heads but when they came out with the EVO I was happy as hell, because working on a motorcycle as a hobby is fine especially old harleys but if you want to ride and have something more dependable go with 1984 EVOs on up, I rode a Ironhead sportster for several years from 1990 - 2005 one of the best Harleys I have ever owned I would buy another one over a Shovel Head any day of the week, The EVO sportster is probably the best Harleys ever made that is why they made them from 1986 on up, very reliable bike plenty big enough unless you are some kind of monster of a man then maybe a dresser would be a better fit, You can do a lot with old sportsters make a flat track racer or even a on road off road sport bike, way cheaper than buying a Pan American just my opinion.
Just happened to find your channel and enjoyed the narrative as well as the content. Have owned my 1980 FXB Sturgis since 2001. It is a beauty, all stock and All there. Just had it out at the Born Free Event this past weekend Irvine, CA. Not a daily rider now, I'm 67 and picked up a 2014 FLHTK couple years back for long rides. Love that Shovel🤙
Don't forget the 66. First year for the shovel. Also I'm always looking for the big bottom end shovel's to buy, and you are correct they fetch considerably more $$$ than cone nose shovel's.
Dude i bought a 1973 shovel head in 1985 and absolutely loved it. Like you i absolutely knew every nut and bolt on it. I lived and breathed harleys for several years. Rode every day rain sleet or snow. I wont say how i lost it. Lets just say i was very stupid. Been wanting another one ever since and had given up on it ever happening. But god was listening. My old friend who i hadnt seen in a long time called me and asked if i wanted his 1977 Flh. He wasnt able to ride anymore and was going to give it to me. I gave him two thousand so i wouldnt feel guilty. Clean title runs great but like you said it will always need something. I am on cloud nine. I loved your video because you love these old bikes like me.
I live in the U.K. and ride a 2007 Dyna Street Bob. I bought it 6 months ago after the bike had laid abandoned in a shed under a blanket. I got the workshop manual, bought the tools I needed (all I had was metric so needed standard), stripped it down, sourced the parts (not easy, I'm in England), rebuilt it. The local HD dealer, 35 miles away, keeps nothing for any bike over 10 years old, the HOG group here look down their nose at me as I'm not riding a bagger, CVO, or some other $45,000 HD. I wouldn't want to join HOG anyway! My bike gets ridden, does more miles in a month than their 'garage queens' do in a year! You do you buddy, buy and ride what you like, stuff the haters, at least we have the satisfaction of doing our own wrenching and not relying on the dealerships to do an oil change! lol
I paid 12,000 $ for my 76 FXE shovelhead from Florida, and had it shipped to Utah. It is on a rigid frame, with a 4 speed trans, super E carb, open belt, BDL clutch, etc. I bought it directly from a shop called Wisco Speedshop. I paid 12,000 $ for the bike because of the story, and because it is a true survivor from the era. I have done some upgrades to make it run a little better for me. I updated the brake lines, put a mid shifter kit on it, and I just bought a baker 4 to 6 transmission for it. I love to learn, and I love the bike even more!!
Great clip! Been buying, fixing, flipping Old Harley’s for about 50 years and no plan to stop! Just got a 79 FLH in rough shape, (4K) should be complete in a few months! I encourage everyone to take up a project bike! It’s fun and keeps me young!
I love the old bikes. I have a 65 panhead I build myself, a 75 shovelhead that im going over and a 98 evo that's a great riding bike. You learn so much with the older bikes that you can fix just about anything that comes up.
Thanks again for another helpful and enjoyable video brotherman. I get stuck on one thing after another in the 'complete' rebuilding of my 1970 Ironhead: didn't know it had a busted rear engine mount; can't get this nut off or that wire clip out or avoid smashing my most important guitar playing finger while loosening a cylinder bolt. Drove from Santa Barbara to San Bernadino and back in my truck to get it. But I'm loving every minute, got it for a great price under 3k 3 years ago, matching numbers, supposedly only needed new rings. With help and guidance from three manuals and people like you, it's even more righteous. Finding a decent Shovelhead is next, so thanks again~~
Found this and was great! You have to also ignore the abnormality deals too, I’ve found a very original Superglide for $2500 CDN (so less than $2k US) but I’ve been doing this for 40yrs and those deals are one in a million. My 82 FXR was $6000 and my 99 1/2 point 71 FLH would likely sell for $20k. It’s all over the map and about what’s available in a bike that’s right for you! I’m now subscribed!
Just ran across your channel. I liked this video so true about prices on bikes. I rode a 60 panhead for 32 year's was a awesome bike I traded a 1969 sportster for it in 1980 it was a basket I bought the sportster for 500 dollars back in 1979 so I really stole my panhead. Can't find deals like that anymore. I just subscribed to your channel starting to watch the videos thanks for the entertainment.
Excellent upload, Paul! I haven't considered a H-D of this type or vintage for a very long time and was thus shocked to see how much they are bringing these days.
82 fxwg sitting in my sisters barn. Got her in early 90s on 1st rebuild. Loved the grease and wrenching. Took me from the northwest to europe. Blown in belgium, rebuilt again. Back home to east coast. My love and daily driver. Rode so hard speedo just stopped. Gotta say, ifn ya ain't gonna put time and wrenching effort, don't get a shovel. Really gotta be focused and devoted. Miss maggie bone shakin every day. Left the US and its the only thing i miss.
Great Video - don't listen to haters. Shovels have always been a "ride it - maintain it" kind of bike. More modern models are not like that at all. You're right in that there is a certain amount of satisfaction in wrenching on your own ride, researching, networking with knowledgeable people, finding parts, and riding it. I've had my Fat Bob for almost 40 yrs. and I can testify that when riding long distances, I have to stop and check it closely (some things need looking after to avoid a breakdown). My solid lifters need adjusting after 1000 miles (the intake shortens and the exhaust lengthens!) These bikes are not for everyone. For those of us that like them, there's nothing like it. Keep the videos coming.
Funny i just found your channel this am. My buddy had an 87 flhtp with 170,000 miles on it, and he had not been able to ride any longer. Had been sitting since 2016. He said he would help get it going, cuz he knew it upside and down. Carb and starter was the beginning. 10 months later and a whole bunch of specialtiy tools, the brake calipers, front suspension, clutch, cam lifters pushrods, and all tranny seals, have been replaced or fixed. I had a blast doing the whole thing. I plan to ride it till I cant any longer also. Thanks for what you do, i loom forward to more buttcrack cycles stuff. fred
Thanks Guy. I bought an 84 FXWG from a mechanic buddy of mine, who took it in for work he did on the guys vehicle. I am tickled pink. Paid $2500 for it last year ( 2022). Bike was assembled after paint, but never started. No oil in engine or trans, no gas in CLEAN tanks.. Has 2 plug heads on it and an S and S carb with thunder jet. The disc brakes are not even live with fluid. Yes, it's somewhat of a project, But , I fired it , and it sounds great. On to the brakes now...Will RIDE soon.....
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I guess I was getting a little too excited and was ready to settle and pay a little more for a shovel than anyone should. After watching your video it has grounded me to exercise patience in my search for my next bike. Again, thanks from New Mexico.
I know exactly what you are talking about. I wrenched on my old 1981 FL and my 1983 Sportster all the time and learned a hell of a lot more about mechanic work than most people today. And when I was stranded on the side of the road a few times I fixed that bike real quick because my mechanical ability's kicked in from knowing how that motorcycle worked. And that is how you become a good mechanic by survival. I do not own these bikes today but when I run across someone that is down I help them out and that brings me great joy. You have to love the brand and I do love the brand no motorcycle is built with the quality and looks of a Harley Davidson.
I like evo`s. 4 years ago I got my `90 FXSTS for $3500. Best deal I ever made. It had a fouled spark plug and was popping while running and the guy was hungover. I`m near Milwaukee,Wi. The Springer was in Portage,In.
By the way Paul, even though it needs some work, i like it .. I’m huge on old Harleys, they’re the OG’s of Harleys after all!! As long as you’re happy with it , that’s all that counts.
Very logical take on the pricing & reasoning. Several people - we all know who they are - think they know ALL about whatever the subject may be. What they do NOT take into consideration - is how regional pricing can be - on things. Excellent video - i will have to check out some more of ur videos. Thank you - keep up the good work.
I got 75 FL that was changed over to a superglide, and a 74 spotster that was unmolested original. I paid $4000 for both. Both had been sitting for well over 15 years and need a shit ton to get them running. The big bike was a total custom with billet everywhere. I was happy to pay the $4000 , but I have a TON of work ahead of me before these even think about moving. The idea is to get the sportster running and offload it so I can use the cash from it to build the shovel. Great video
Dude honestly it's priceless when u love this stuff price means nothing....I love shovelheads planning to build one up of my own ..u have a great machine 💯
Great video. Theres cost and theres cost. I paid $500 for my basically complete 2000 Sportster (with a title and a lot of miles). Engine was stuck but bike was complete. Engine freed up easily. It needed tires, battery, plugs, oil change, a seat, exhaust, did the intake seals, and numerous odds and ends. I swapped the rear wheel for spoked, had to get the front wheel rebuilt w new rim probably hit a pothole but who knows. It still needs a front rotor. Total including tax insurance registration is $2700. BUT, its my first HD and I learned a TON working on it, plus had fun. Now I think all it needs is fork seals. I could have bought a nice complete Sporty with 1/2 the miles for just a few hundred more. But this one gave me an education and a bunch of satisfaction.
Location location location u did fine. Luv the shovel sound wish I had the knowledge keep 1 running top notch. Not capable but I can ride my m8 and watch u guys with the talent keep the classics rolling.
I paid $3000 for a wrecked 77 FXS lowrider two years ago and I'm digging into it now. Bent the forks, but he had bought some others. The front frame frame down tube was said to be tweaked a bit, by eyeballing, it but I don't see it for all the checks I've done. I've put another grand into it, service the forks, swing arm bearings, rear wheel bearings and new tire, transmission thoroughly serviced with seals and gaskets, inner primary repaired with new bearing, seal. I'm at the point at where I can start putting it back together. I've also have a 79 FXEF that I've owned since 1986 that I paid $3600 for back in the day.
Good looking bike, bro. And for the price in that condition, I think it's a great deal. I paid $4500 for a 1975 fxe in 2009. I've had almost everything done to that bike since and still have more to do to get it where I want it, but a couple minor things to button up, and it's perfectly fine as is. It's a labor of love. $20k in motor and wiring work, new bars, seat, tires, clutch basket, new rear brake caliper, etc. A lot of stuff, a lot of money. All I need is a hardtail job on the frame, but I'm not pulling it all apart to do that right now. Enjoy your shovel. They're classic. Ignore the haters, they don't know what they're talking about. Peace Louis
I just picked up a 1985 FXEF with 12000 miles on it. I have a cousin in Pa. We traded bikes. I gave up a 2003 Ducati 999 for the Super Glide Fat Bob. I was going up for a visit and I have a motorcycle trailer so I did the trade. I brought it back to Florida. 4 speed and chain drive. I love the old stuff. Great video.
Got a 73 fxe w/ custom paint. First yr fxe electric start. About 25k miles on her. Paid 5k. Good vid. We have a saying here in my neck of the wood, " it's only worth what you're willing to pay". I love shovels and kid you're spot on! I'm 63 and shovels were the chit back in my day. Ride on!
I got my 1984 Shovelhead FLH for 3500.00 with 7391 miles been stored for 15 years clean titled one owner bike she needs work but I’m in now complete bike
I have a 1979 Lower Rider and absolutely love it. Don’t take it out often since I have newer bikes but I take it to shows and often get people trying to buy it off me. It’s been in my family since it was new and I fully plan on keeping it that way. Even with my newer bikes the 79 is still my favorite to ride.
I paid 10k for my 83 Electra Glide sport 10 years ago, but it had a built 96" S&S engine with super E carb, race exaust and ness parts all over it, plus i got a dyno sheet that said 120 hp and 100 tq that thing pulled like a freighttrain ! A well sorted shovel is an awesome piece dont let haters dissuade you from what you like. Shovels are awesome in a competent techs hands. Also, there is nothing wrong with AMF bikes, the only thing you need to keep in mind is the fasteners are inferior so replacing them with upgraded stuff solves that problem
About my 3rd time watching your videos , I dig your take on bikes and your style. Don't pay the haters no mind. I started riding HD back in 1992 and rode the rice train before that. Had to let my 09 SG go a couple of years ago because of my legs . I think your enthusiasm has made the HD bug bite me. I am considering buying an old iron head FX and fixing her up. I'm pretty sure I could handle the weight of one of those bikes easier than a bagger. Keep up the great work man.
Good points on older bikes, I found Myself saying this guy thinks like me. You also sound like a young Pacific Mike with the passion for older bikes and their characteristics of riding and maintaining them Thanks for enjoyable video. Kevin
I happened to be in the right place at the right time back in March when I got my 94' Heritage Evo. 32k miles and very good condition. I paid $2750 Very lucky. Have been riding it all the time and purrs like a kitten.
I got my 100% stock 1972 ironhead with 15k miles for $1500. Not running but with proper timing and carb work i got it running. People say i paid too much but what matters is what its worth to me. I love it. Now i want a shovelhead
I'm building and reworking in 1980 shovelhead now.. Lisa is what I'm trying to do.. being retired I need something to do and I love motorcycling. So what the heck I started to channel 2.. wale Edward going for a long time but I appreciate your opinion thank you very much great video...
I like this video. Though I live in the PNW a running Shovelhead, Ironhead, or early Evo are up there. Going over what I paid for my 1983 FXWG brand new.
Great video and find , and its all about what you want for it and what someone is willing to pay for it ,and that is how it has always been as far as saleing and haggleing goes tune them type of comments out of mind out of site. You have a good eye for this type stuff.
I am working on a 1998 evo and I am finding that the parts are pretty expensive. I am getting there slowly but making progress. I got it started today! It is a hobby. I drive a Moto Guzzi while I work on the harley. Keep up the good work. Cam , push rods, cam bearing and tool to remove and install, all fluids, paint, s&s breather, battery. $1500 so far! S&s hydraulic tappets make that $1850 plus the 4800 I paid for the motorcycle.
I bought an 83 FXR from a dealer in Pennsylvania a year ago. This dealer takes really nice photos and the ads are well fabricated lies. Paid 8k for a bike with mis routed oil lines, a bad transmission, a blown clutch hub, and a bastardized wire harness. A year later it's still on my lift and I have already dumped another 3k into it. I got suckered but I'm going to fix it and make it mine
man, i paid $5500 for a running shovel with a title that was 40mi from my house. im happy with it. something fun to fuck around with while i wait on my wishbone frame.
I bought my 81 fxef a couple months ago for 6500. I probably paid more than it's worth. But I wanted that specific bike. And they do not come up for sale often where I live. They're all out of state on marketplace. My main desire were matching frame and belly numbers and a HARLEY title. A special construction bike was worthless to me. I've been riding it everyday. And it still needs things to be fixed. They all do. No matter what they cost you. No regrets.
I started riding on an old 78 Lowrider. Now, 45 years later that bike taught me everything I have learned about working on bikes and now I ride my 2015 Wide Glide and work on all my bikes
I bought a 74 fxe off of some guys whose brother died. I didn’t realize until I got it that he tried to make it look like a 59’. It had a 59 front end on it and 59 tins with a cat eye dash off a knuckle. The engine was rebuilt and had 3000 miles on it. I think it’s been upgraded but I haven’t done anything but change the oil and keep it tight, and put new brakes pads. Had the super e carb and air cleaner. Gave 3500$ for it last year . Only one to look at it on fb marketplace in 6 months
That’s precisely what I was thinking the entire time!! 👍 And besides, you can certainly use out-of-state bikes as some type of leverage with a seller. If anything, if a bike is sitting in bum F nowhere, all the more reason for the seller to be negotiable as big money is going to be even much harder to find walking around. From Southern California ~ Ride Forever!
I got my 1980 tour Glide Shovel head about 7 years ago for $5,000. Put gas in it check the oil new battery fired it up and it also had a sidecar that came with it. Sold the sidecar for $2,500 so I guess my 1980 tour Glide only cost me $2,500. Still has some issues carburetor and some oil issues that I deal with. I'll tell you what though it's been a tough project because nobody seems to know about these bikes
Hm, here in Switzerland a shovelhead in close to original condition roughly costs $15000 (yes fifteen thousand) equivalent, if not more. Roughly the same as a new entry model M8 bigtwin. The bottom of the market (costing half of this) are EVO’s from the mid 90-ies.
Hello from Tennessee. I think you got a good deal. I’m in to EVO’s right now and I hear people all the time saying they can get one for $2500 all day long. I beg them to please go get me a good riding EVO for $2500 and to this day no one has ever pointed me to one. Lol. Next on my list is to get a shuffle head and I hope it is as nice as what you got because that’s about my budget. Right now I’m in deep on a 96 Fatboy that I’m doing a complete rebuild. When I’m doing I’ll have around $7000 total in it but it should be just like it came off the showroom floor. But hey keep doing what your doing. You seem like a guy I could hang out with and build some Harley Davidson.
Great video man, hey I love the older harleys...I love all motorcycles actually but my heart and blood is with harley davidson....can't wait to see what you do with your shovel man.
Paid $6,250 for my shovel it was sitting for years but covered and in amazing condition, no title but where i live you don't need one cause its so old. Its on a 58 frame, stroked, Andrews gears. Put about $1,000 in it so far and im in love!! Most definitely worth it no doubt for my collection!
I definitely learned my lesson with mine. Rode it, loved it, bike looked great. Bought it for 3k. Got it home, leaked oil everywhere. Needed lots of love. Finally got everything fixed, minus a few drops of oil here and there. Definitely got to factor additional cost above the cost to buy the bike. Sounds like common sense I know. I learned the hard way. 3k bike was really a 4500$ bike.
Living in the UK any harley pre evo motor is rare and expensive. Shovels are being imported and they start at $6k as a rather rough project and go upwards, iron head sportsters start at $4.5k. There are always lucky people who get a bargain but since the internet being about people can Google their bike and get an idea of what it is worth. In the UK we have had a spike in the prices of any bike from the 70's and 80's with what was a $500 bike 5 to 10 years ago now costing $2000 to $3000 and in the case of some bikes double that and people need to readjust to the new reality.
I live in central SC too. Last year I started looking for an EVO. I found a one owner ‘97 Wide Glide with 13 thousand miles. It was kept in a garage and looked like a new bike. All original with a stage 2 done. The bike runs like new too. Came with a cloth indoor cover, owners and shop manual. $6000. It was in Naples Fl. It was a two day trip. I camped in a State Park. I bought it to ride not to resell. So I ate the gas money.
Mate you're not wrong there. I'm also from Australia and the price for any Harley is crazy. The only reason I bought a Shovel is because Pans are so expensive. I can remember seeing a red and white 65 Electra-Glide for $12000 AUD. I should have bought it back then and I'm still kicking myself. Being Australian, you would know about GT HO Falcon's being just over $5000 AUD brand new. Now they cost anything over a Million Dollars. So, Shovelhead's are quite cheap in comparison.
I've owned 3 1976 Harleys, $2800-3500 . 2 sportsters one I customized and rebuilt and the other and easyrider type chopper. And a 76 electra gluide. Nice looking and a good runner until you loaded all of your gear and my wife and on a long run it needed a new top end at 22000 miles. I wish I were young enough tio do it again.
1966-69 flat side FLs are at the top of the heap. AMF took ownership in 69. 1970, 71& 72 FLs are very desirable because of the drum brakes. 1971 & 72 FX Super Glides are unique because of the drum brakes and XL front forks (many were boat tails) 1973 was the last year FX only Superglide. 1974 - 80 added more models to the line up with an increase in cu. in. starting in 78. 1981-84 had a slightly different frame. The Motor Co. broke from AMF in 82. 1983 & 84 had final belt drives. 1980 - 1984 FLT based models had a rubber mount engine & 5 speed trans - because of the saddle bags & instrument placement these are not easily customized and are presently the least desirable. The FXR line from the early 80s is finally being recognized as the best performer of them all. An original paint 66 could be worth $30,000 & a butt ugly 80 FLT can be found for $3,000. 😅
@redhillvintagemotorcycles1725 many 83 & 84 FLHPs were chain final drive, some with foot Clutch/hand Shift. 190+ units were built & delivered in 85 to meet contract requirements.
Glad I searched Shovelheads and found you. Gonna finish it later but I like the way you are calling out the knuckleheads-pun intended. Some people's kids just don't know how to act and have to put everything down and try to one up everything and everyone.
This is great advice. Always do plenty of "homework" before looking for any model/year H-D. Ask a lot of questions, even if they sound "dumb." Build right. Ride safe -- W
Just found your channel by chance. Really like the idea behind it "old er" Harleys. I paid $4000 for my 72 flh 4 years ago. You say you love the idea that you did all the work, well that's my biggest problem lol. I do 😢all my own work as well but i ride alone in the Maine woods and breaking down could get me a very long walk. Trusting my work is my issue. I know i should prob buy something else but i do love this bike Anyway, I'm glad i found the channel Looking forward to checking out more of your content ✌
Don’t let the Trolls get you down. I really like your channel and your Shovelhead is awesome. If you think you got a good deal on it, you got a good deal, end of discussion. FTW.
I paid $5000 for my 76 FLH Electra glide back in 1994 rode it home about a 2 hour drive not sure if it would make it, bike was complete just very well worn. rode it for the first summer. then went through the whole thing investing another $5000. probably over paid for it in the beginning, but don't regret any of it. I love this bike. It's not about the value of the bike. it's about the value it has for me. as I will never sell it, it'll be my sons to do whatever he wants with it after I'm gone.
About 20-25 years ago I bought a number of mostly or all original 1970's Harleys. Low miles, pristine condition, original paint machines. 1977 Low Rider FXS, 1977 Cafe Racer, 1978 75th anniversary Sportster, 1976 Bicentennial Sportster, 1976 Super Glide, and several others. These bikes were hard to find then, much harder now. I grew up with these bikes.
Nothing like the Shovel Head sound at idle. Over time, these can be decent investments. But I own 'em 'cause I like 'em.
No matter what you paid for the bike, if you love it and make it your own. It’s worth it! If you are looking to flip bikes, then try and get it cheap!
And you can fix it yourself which looks like you know these bikes inside and out.
I really liked your take on the subject and found it much more accurate than most.
I have had many Shovels through the years - I started at 19 and I'm now 63.
I used to chop & customize everything now I won't even look at them if they have an S&S carb, drag pipes or worm clamps on the oil lines lol.
I spent a shit load of money buying back all of those parts that I used to throw away 😢
I'm perfectly happy with Evo. Most problems were fixed. Ride more, wrench less❤ glad there are guys out there like you that keep these old bikes on the road.
I paid 6500 uk pounds for my 79 flh but it came with ultima 4 speed slick shift trans , s&s barrells and pistons , s&s super e , dyna tech Ignition ( which when set up correct makes it a two kick bike ) electric start with new starter motor uprated , PM forwards and Gma rear caliper , matching numbers and loads of issues which I’ve sorted. I rode it a mile to my house from where I purchased it , bottom line is I love the bike and ride her every day and she makes me smile and when it goes wrong it’s another lesson I learn about it , I love it and that’s what matters. It’s your money and if your happy then power and respect to you .
Bought my '81 FXS for 6k (philly area). Pretty respectable condition. But, within the first few months i had the inner primary off replacing the main shaft seal and all new clutch plates etc etc etc. Like you, is a daily rider and commutes regularly to work 20 miles. Constant maintenance.
This is the nature of the beast and I love it.
Glad you're still keeping it on the road, I have to say, I actually really like the 80s shovelheads for some reason.
Congratulations on the purchase brother .your bike looks great.
I bought my 74 in 1995. Paid 5k back then and she needed some work. 30 years later I'm still riding her. She's been more than worth it
Hi Paul (from the UK).
What you speak is the truth about all old bikes.
Most of the fruit-loops on line haven't owned a fifty minute old bike, never mind a fifty year old one.
I found you on here here because the Shovelhead caught my eye.
I like it.
Haha nailed it
In the NYC metro area, you’re probably looking at around $7.5k and it will most likely be a Frankenstein or else have been sitting for a while, even if you can find one. A decent Ironhead Sportster is around $5k now.
I think you are spot on here. I've been searching for a shovelhead for months now in my area and your logic and price analysis holds true here too. Ultimately I've decided to do a full ironhead build before I even consider one, just due to cost.
I don't know why but an ironhead running good cracked wide open is the best sounding Harley there is. They sound straight up mean.
I have an 82 FLH and the previous owner had installed a super glide fork on it and I didn’t like that. I couldn’t find a good deal on the FLH front end that I like and I had installed a wide glide on it, but eventually I just went with a springer front end instead. I think it looks great and no worry about leaking tubes. I would never even consider selling my Shovelhead for less than $10,000. I don’t care what others think it’s worth, the newer bikes do not have that old school cool and can’t even fake it with a custom build. These are the machines that made me fall in love with Harleys as a kid.
As my real estate agents said "do you want to list it or do you want to sell it."
Very good video. Many people don't understand some of the issues and logistics when purchasing a project vehicle. I agree with your reasoning.
I have worked on several Pan heads and Shovel Heads but when they came out with the EVO I was happy as hell, because working on a motorcycle as a hobby is fine especially old harleys but if you want to ride and have something more dependable go with 1984 EVOs on up, I rode a Ironhead sportster for several years from 1990 - 2005 one of the best Harleys I have ever owned I would buy another one over a Shovel Head any day of the week, The EVO sportster is probably the best Harleys ever made that is why they made them from 1986 on up, very reliable bike plenty big enough unless you are some kind of monster of a man then maybe a dresser would be a better fit, You can do a lot with old sportsters make a flat track racer or even a on road off road sport bike, way cheaper than buying a Pan American just my opinion.
I've been riding my 1972 FX Superglide and 1972 FLH Electraglide for 52 years now.. I do all my own work so I know whats up.. Shovelheads rule..🍷😎
Just happened to find your channel and enjoyed the narrative as well as the content. Have owned my 1980 FXB Sturgis since 2001. It is a beauty, all stock and All there. Just had it out at the Born Free Event this past weekend Irvine, CA. Not a daily rider now, I'm 67 and picked up a 2014 FLHTK couple years back for long rides. Love that Shovel🤙
Do you know the difference between the slab side shovels and the cone shovels? '67, '68', '69 are going to cost considerably more than later models.
Yes I do, I kind of glossed over this in this video, others have pointed this out
Don't forget the 66. First year for the shovel. Also I'm always looking for the big bottom end shovel's to buy, and you are correct they fetch considerably more $$$ than cone nose shovel's.
Dude i bought a 1973 shovel head in 1985 and absolutely loved it. Like you i absolutely knew every nut and bolt on it. I lived and breathed harleys for several years. Rode every day rain sleet or snow. I wont say how i lost it. Lets just say i was very stupid. Been wanting another one ever since and had given up on it ever happening. But god was listening. My old friend who i hadnt seen in a long time called me and asked if i wanted his 1977 Flh. He wasnt able to ride anymore and was going to give it to me. I gave him two thousand so i wouldnt feel guilty. Clean title runs great but like you said it will always need something. I am on cloud nine. I loved your video because you love these old bikes like me.
Very informative video. The shovel wide glide is pretty much the coolest bike Harley ever made in my opinion. Gorgeous.
I live in the U.K. and ride a 2007 Dyna Street Bob. I bought it 6 months ago after the bike had laid abandoned in a shed under a blanket. I got the workshop manual, bought the tools I needed (all I had was metric so needed standard), stripped it down, sourced the parts (not easy, I'm in England), rebuilt it. The local HD dealer, 35 miles away, keeps nothing for any bike over 10 years old, the HOG group here look down their nose at me as I'm not riding a bagger, CVO, or some other $45,000 HD. I wouldn't want to join HOG anyway! My bike gets ridden, does more miles in a month than their 'garage queens' do in a year! You do you buddy, buy and ride what you like, stuff the haters, at least we have the satisfaction of doing our own wrenching and not relying on the dealerships to do an oil change! lol
I love it! Thanks for the comment and enjoy that Dyna
Steve.
Veefour?
You don't live near Durham and own a V65 do you?
@@andrewjones1649 No buddy, East Anglia and ride the Harley and a Triumph Bonneville custom.
I bought a 79 fxe dressed as a fxwg last summer 5k. Great running new paint. I’m happy
I paid 12,000 $ for my 76 FXE shovelhead from Florida, and had it shipped to Utah. It is on a rigid frame, with a 4 speed trans, super E carb, open belt, BDL clutch, etc. I bought it directly from a shop called Wisco Speedshop. I paid 12,000 $ for the bike because of the story, and because it is a true survivor from the era. I have done some upgrades to make it run a little better for me. I updated the brake lines, put a mid shifter kit on it, and I just bought a baker 4 to 6 transmission for it. I love to learn, and I love the bike even more!!
I bought a FXE basket case for $3000 crank, frame, title all have matching vins.
It's not a survivor without the original four speed swingarm frame.
Great clip! Been buying, fixing, flipping Old Harley’s for about 50 years and no plan to stop! Just got a 79 FLH in rough shape, (4K) should be complete in a few months! I encourage everyone to take up a project bike! It’s fun and keeps me young!
Bout to buy a 75 shovel head missing the transmission paying $1,500 that’s what brings me here
I love the old bikes. I have a 65 panhead I build myself, a 75 shovelhead that im going over and a 98 evo that's a great riding bike. You learn so much with the older bikes that you can fix just about anything that comes up.
Thanks again for another helpful and enjoyable video brotherman. I get stuck on one thing after another in the 'complete' rebuilding of my 1970 Ironhead: didn't know it had a busted rear engine mount; can't get this nut off or that wire clip out or avoid smashing my most important guitar playing finger while loosening a cylinder bolt. Drove from Santa Barbara to San Bernadino and back in my truck to get it. But I'm loving every minute, got it for a great price under 3k 3 years ago, matching numbers, supposedly only needed new rings. With help and guidance from three manuals and people like you, it's even more righteous. Finding a decent Shovelhead is next, so thanks again~~
Paul, you keep on doing what you're doing. I had a '76 superglide. Do my own work. Know what the old scoots are worth. Agree with your thinking.
Found this and was great! You have to also ignore the abnormality deals too, I’ve found a very original Superglide for $2500 CDN (so less than $2k US) but I’ve been doing this for 40yrs and those deals are one in a million. My 82 FXR was $6000 and my 99 1/2 point 71 FLH would likely sell for $20k. It’s all over the map and about what’s available in a bike that’s right for you!
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Thank you for the subscription! I would love an 82 FXR, dream bike for me. Keep it in the wind
Just ran across your channel. I liked this video so true about prices on bikes. I rode a 60 panhead for 32 year's was a awesome bike I traded a 1969 sportster for it in 1980 it was a basket I bought the sportster for 500 dollars back in 1979 so I really stole my panhead. Can't find deals like that anymore. I just subscribed to your channel starting to watch the videos thanks for the entertainment.
Excellent upload, Paul! I haven't considered a H-D of this type or vintage for a very long time and was thus shocked to see how much they are bringing these days.
82 fxwg sitting in my sisters barn. Got her in early 90s on 1st rebuild. Loved the grease and wrenching. Took me from the northwest to europe. Blown in belgium, rebuilt again. Back home to east coast. My love and daily driver. Rode so hard speedo just stopped. Gotta say, ifn ya ain't gonna put time and wrenching effort, don't get a shovel. Really gotta be focused and devoted. Miss maggie bone shakin every day. Left the US and its the only thing i miss.
Great Video - don't listen to haters. Shovels have always been a "ride it - maintain it" kind of bike. More modern models are not like that at all. You're right in that there is a certain amount of satisfaction in wrenching on your own ride, researching, networking with knowledgeable people, finding parts, and riding it. I've had my Fat Bob for almost 40 yrs. and I can testify that when riding long distances, I have to stop and check it closely (some things need looking after to avoid a breakdown). My solid lifters need adjusting after 1000 miles (the intake shortens and the exhaust lengthens!) These bikes are not for everyone. For those of us that like them, there's nothing like it. Keep the videos coming.
Ride, Wrench, and Repeat! That’s the Shovelhead Creed!
Funny i just found your channel this am. My buddy had an 87 flhtp with 170,000 miles on it, and he had not been able to ride any longer. Had been sitting since 2016. He said he would help get it going, cuz he knew it upside and down. Carb and starter was the beginning. 10 months later and a whole bunch of specialtiy tools, the brake calipers, front suspension, clutch, cam lifters pushrods, and all tranny seals, have been replaced or fixed. I had a blast doing the whole thing. I plan to ride it till I cant any longer also. Thanks for what you do, i loom forward to more buttcrack cycles stuff. fred
Thanks Guy. I bought an 84 FXWG from a mechanic buddy of mine, who took it in for work he did on the guys vehicle. I am tickled pink. Paid $2500 for it last year ( 2022). Bike was assembled after paint, but never started. No oil in engine or trans, no gas in CLEAN tanks.. Has 2 plug heads on it and an S and S carb with thunder jet. The disc brakes are not even live with fluid. Yes, it's somewhat of a project, But , I fired it , and it sounds great. On to the brakes now...Will RIDE soon.....
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I guess I was getting a little too excited and was ready to settle and pay a little more for a shovel than anyone should. After watching your video it has grounded me to exercise patience in my search for my next bike. Again, thanks from New Mexico.
I live in SC also 3 years ago bought a 78 flh anniversary for 4000.00 rebuilt started and was on the road.
That sounds like a pretty good one!
I know exactly what you are talking about. I wrenched on my old 1981 FL and my 1983 Sportster all the time and learned a hell of a lot more about mechanic work than most people today. And when I was stranded on the side of the road a few times I fixed that bike real quick because my mechanical ability's kicked in from knowing how that motorcycle worked. And that is how you become a good mechanic by survival. I do not own these bikes today but when I run across someone that is down I help them out and that brings me great joy. You have to love the brand and I do love the brand no motorcycle is built with the quality and looks of a Harley Davidson.
I like evo`s. 4 years ago I got my `90 FXSTS for $3500. Best deal I ever made. It had a fouled spark plug and was popping while running and the guy was hungover. I`m near Milwaukee,Wi. The Springer was in Portage,In.
I just found you and I'm impressed . and I have a 1985 4 speed Evo witch I did over 280,000 Kl with , and only 2 rebuilds
Also had an 85 4 speed Evo for many years, good looking and riding bike.
By the way Paul, even though it needs some work, i like it .. I’m huge on old Harleys, they’re the OG’s of Harleys after all!! As long as you’re happy with it , that’s all that counts.
Very logical take on the pricing & reasoning.
Several people - we all know who they are - think they know ALL about whatever the subject may be. What they do NOT take into consideration - is how regional pricing can be - on things.
Excellent video - i will have to check out some more of ur videos.
Thank you - keep up the good work.
I got 75 FL that was changed over to a superglide, and a 74 spotster that was unmolested original. I paid $4000 for both. Both had been sitting for well over 15 years and need a shit ton to get them running. The big bike was a total custom with billet everywhere. I was happy to pay the $4000 , but I have a TON of work ahead of me before these even think about moving. The idea is to get the sportster running and offload it so I can use the cash from it to build the shovel. Great video
Dude honestly it's priceless when u love this stuff price means nothing....I love shovelheads planning to build one up of my own ..u have a great machine 💯
This dude knows what the heck hes doing. $4800 is a good price for that bike.
Bought my 81 FLHP in 84 as a 17 yo kid. Been thru it front to back top to bottom. Still got it runs like a champ.
Great video. Theres cost and theres cost. I paid $500 for my basically complete 2000 Sportster (with a title and a lot of miles). Engine was stuck but bike was complete. Engine freed up easily. It needed tires, battery, plugs, oil change, a seat, exhaust, did the intake seals, and numerous odds and ends. I swapped the rear wheel for spoked, had to get the front wheel rebuilt w new rim probably hit a pothole but who knows. It still needs a front rotor. Total including tax insurance registration is $2700. BUT, its my first HD and I learned a TON working on it, plus had fun. Now I think all it needs is fork seals. I could have bought a nice complete Sporty with 1/2 the miles for just a few hundred more. But this one gave me an education and a bunch of satisfaction.
Location location location u did fine. Luv the shovel sound wish I had the knowledge keep 1 running top notch. Not capable but I can ride my m8 and watch u guys with the talent keep the classics rolling.
I paid $3000 for a wrecked 77 FXS lowrider two years ago and I'm digging into it now. Bent the forks, but he had bought some others. The front frame frame down tube was said to be tweaked a bit, by eyeballing, it but I don't see it for all the checks I've done. I've put another grand into it, service the forks, swing arm bearings, rear wheel bearings and new tire, transmission thoroughly serviced with seals and gaskets, inner primary repaired with new bearing, seal. I'm at the point at where I can start putting it back together. I've also have a 79 FXEF that I've owned since 1986 that I paid $3600 for back in the day.
New Harley rider from SC here. Great video and info man
Good looking bike, bro. And for the price in that condition, I think it's a great deal. I paid $4500 for a 1975 fxe in 2009. I've had almost everything done to that bike since and still have more to do to get it where I want it, but a couple minor things to button up, and it's perfectly fine as is.
It's a labor of love. $20k in motor and wiring work, new bars, seat, tires, clutch basket, new rear brake caliper, etc.
A lot of stuff, a lot of money.
All I need is a hardtail job on the frame, but I'm not pulling it all apart to do that right now.
Enjoy your shovel. They're classic. Ignore the haters, they don't know what they're talking about.
Peace
Louis
I just picked up a 1985 FXEF with 12000 miles on it. I have a cousin in Pa. We traded bikes. I gave up a 2003 Ducati 999 for the Super Glide Fat Bob. I was going up for a visit and I have a motorcycle trailer so I did the trade. I brought it back to Florida. 4 speed and chain drive. I love the old stuff. Great video.
I just completed a 3 year restoration of 80 fxwg and the costs were well 15k in parts and labor . I paid $700 for a basket case with a title .
That is I'm sure, a gorgeous scoot, good for you!
@@thomasborger6548 that’s engine in my avatar
LMAO
Got a 73 fxe w/ custom paint. First yr fxe electric start. About 25k miles on her. Paid 5k. Good vid. We have a saying here in my neck of the wood, " it's only worth what you're willing to pay". I love shovels and kid you're spot on! I'm 63 and shovels were the chit back in my day. Ride on!
1973 was an FX; I have a stock one. 1974 was first year FXE with shifter thru the inspection cover on primary.
@@briancoons8478 well. Mines a 73. Titled as such.
I have seen 1973 FX models with dealer installed electric start but I have never seen documentation for a 73 FXE the S/N would be 9D ***** H3
@@kurtfoulke5130 well, I got docs. However I do know that when Google the fxe begins in 74. I'm no expert. Just know what I have.
Dude,any of those shovels from 66-69 are generator shovels,only made 3 years so prices are usually 10 grand and up
Hell I sold a 68 pan Shovel, in the 90's for 5,000 , wasn't all Original but it Run Damm good , rode it to 50th Sturgis!!!!!!
That's because the 66 to 69 Shovelhead had Panhead lowers
I got my 1984 Shovelhead FLH for 3500.00 with 7391 miles been stored for 15 years clean titled one owner bike she needs work but I’m in now complete bike
I have a 1979 Lower Rider and absolutely love it. Don’t take it out often since I have newer bikes but I take it to shows and often get people trying to buy it off me. It’s been in my family since it was new and I fully plan on keeping it that way. Even with my newer bikes the 79 is still my favorite to ride.
You are right about the prices I bought a 1998 FXST for $2500. I have did a lot of cosmetic
4,500 or less and has a kicker; it'll get my attention.
Great video. I bought my !974 super glide fxe in 2011 for 4500.00 in Ohio. Running with title.
I paid 10k for my 83 Electra Glide sport 10 years ago, but it had a built 96" S&S engine with super E carb, race exaust and ness parts all over it, plus i got a dyno sheet that said 120 hp and 100 tq that thing pulled like a freighttrain ! A well sorted shovel is an awesome piece dont let haters dissuade you from what you like. Shovels are awesome in a competent techs hands. Also, there is nothing wrong with AMF bikes, the only thing you need to keep in mind is the fasteners are inferior so replacing them with upgraded stuff solves that problem
About my 3rd time watching your videos , I dig your take on bikes and your style. Don't pay the haters no mind. I started riding HD back in 1992 and rode the rice train before that. Had to let my 09 SG go a couple of years ago because of my legs . I think your enthusiasm has made the HD bug bite me. I am considering buying an old iron head FX and fixing her up. I'm pretty sure I could handle the weight of one of those bikes easier than a bagger. Keep up the great work man.
@@SP2X1369 I thought it stood for large frame and motor and a sportster front end .
@@SP2X1369 Has a gear drive for a cable
Good points on older bikes, I found Myself saying this guy thinks like me. You also sound like a young Pacific Mike with the passion for older bikes and their characteristics of riding and maintaining them Thanks for enjoyable video. Kevin
Thanks Kevin, I really love Pacific Mike (man what a voice! Made for radio!) So I appreciate that comparison
I happened to be in the right place at the right time back in March when I got my 94' Heritage Evo. 32k miles and very good condition. I paid $2750 Very lucky. Have been riding it all the time and purrs like a kitten.
Good job you were smart and got a bike that’s reliable and still has soul
I got my 100% stock 1972 ironhead with 15k miles for $1500. Not running but with proper timing and carb work i got it running. People say i paid too much but what matters is what its worth to me. I love it. Now i want a shovelhead
I'm building and reworking in 1980 shovelhead now.. Lisa is what I'm trying to do.. being retired I need something to do and I love motorcycling. So what the heck I started to channel 2.. wale Edward going for a long time but I appreciate your opinion thank you very much great video...
I like this video. Though I live in the PNW a running Shovelhead, Ironhead, or early Evo are up there. Going over what I paid for my 1983 FXWG brand new.
Had a 79 iron head for my first Harley I ride a 2018 low rider now but definitely want an old shovel for a project.
Great video and find , and its all about what you want for it and what someone is willing to pay for it ,and that is how it has always been as far as saleing and haggleing goes tune them type of comments out of mind out of site. You have a good eye for this type stuff.
Thanks!
I am working on a 1998 evo and I am finding that the parts are pretty expensive. I am getting there slowly but making progress. I got it started today! It is a hobby. I drive a Moto Guzzi while I work on the harley. Keep up the good work. Cam , push rods, cam bearing and tool to remove and install, all fluids, paint, s&s breather, battery. $1500 so far! S&s hydraulic tappets make that $1850 plus the 4800 I paid for the motorcycle.
Sounds like a good deal to me, here in the UK you could double that in pounds sterling to get a half decent shovel.
I bought an 83 FXR from a dealer in Pennsylvania a year ago. This dealer takes really nice photos and the ads are well fabricated lies. Paid 8k for a bike with mis routed oil lines, a bad transmission, a blown clutch hub, and a bastardized wire harness. A year later it's still on my lift and I have already dumped another 3k into it. I got suckered but I'm going to fix it and make it mine
Please tell me it wasn't in State College???
man, i paid $5500 for a running shovel with a title that was 40mi from my house. im happy with it. something fun to fuck around with while i wait on my wishbone frame.
I have a Shovelhead from 1975 - LOVE IT !
I bought my 81 fxef a couple months ago for 6500. I probably paid more than it's worth. But I wanted that specific bike. And they do not come up for sale often where I live. They're all out of state on marketplace. My main desire were matching frame and belly numbers and a HARLEY title. A special construction bike was worthless to me. I've been riding it everyday. And it still needs things to be fixed. They all do. No matter what they cost you. No regrets.
I started riding on an old 78 Lowrider. Now, 45 years later that bike taught me everything I have learned about working on bikes and now I ride my 2015 Wide Glide and work on all my bikes
You hit the nail on the head here my friend. I am also in the upstate of sc. Nice smcf shirt I was there too!
they cost around 10k USD here in denmark - like a 1975ish with electric start and registered
I bought a 74 fxe off of some guys whose brother died. I didn’t realize until I got it that he tried to make it look like a 59’. It had a 59 front end on it and 59 tins with a cat eye dash off a knuckle. The engine was rebuilt and had 3000 miles on it. I think it’s been upgraded but I haven’t done anything but change the oil and keep it tight, and put new brakes pads. Had the super e carb and air cleaner. Gave 3500$ for it last year . Only one to look at it on fb marketplace in 6 months
Florida bikes are rust buckets, good shovel in California, 6K to 9K
That’s precisely what I was thinking the entire time!! 👍 And besides, you can certainly use out-of-state bikes as some type of leverage with a seller. If anything, if a bike is sitting in bum F nowhere, all the more reason for the seller to be negotiable as big money is going to be even much harder to find walking around.
From Southern California ~ Ride Forever!
I got my 1980 tour Glide Shovel head about 7 years ago for $5,000. Put gas in it check the oil new battery fired it up and it also had a sidecar that came with it. Sold the sidecar for $2,500 so I guess my 1980 tour Glide only cost me $2,500. Still has some issues carburetor and some oil issues that I deal with. I'll tell you what though it's been a tough project because nobody seems to know about these bikes
Hm, here in Switzerland a shovelhead in close to original condition roughly costs $15000 (yes fifteen thousand) equivalent, if not more. Roughly the same as a new entry model M8 bigtwin. The bottom of the market (costing half of this) are EVO’s from the mid 90-ies.
do lots of guys import from usa?
@@jadesportster no, relatively speaking bikes here are closer to stock (i.e. not FUBAR) and better maintained.
Hello from Tennessee. I think you got a good deal. I’m in to EVO’s right now and I hear people all the time saying they can get one for $2500 all day long. I beg them to please go get me a good riding EVO for $2500 and to this day no one has ever pointed me to one. Lol. Next on my list is to get a shuffle head and I hope it is as nice as what you got because that’s about my budget. Right now I’m in deep on a 96 Fatboy that I’m doing a complete rebuild. When I’m doing I’ll have around $7000 total in it but it should be just like it came off the showroom floor. But hey keep doing what your doing. You seem like a guy I could hang out with and build some Harley Davidson.
Great video man, hey I love the older harleys...I love all motorcycles actually but my heart and blood is with harley davidson....can't wait to see what you do with your shovel man.
Prices are all over the place
I’m Massachusetts where I live prices are high
I paid $1400 for a frame motor and title
I actually don't think that's too bad considering I have seen guys asking 2-3k for motors with titles. Like you say, it's all over the place!
Paid $6,250 for my shovel it was sitting for years but covered and in amazing condition, no title but where i live you don't need one cause its so old. Its on a 58 frame, stroked, Andrews gears. Put about $1,000 in it so far and im in love!! Most definitely worth it no doubt for my collection!
I definitely learned my lesson with mine. Rode it, loved it, bike looked great. Bought it for 3k. Got it home, leaked oil everywhere. Needed lots of love. Finally got everything fixed, minus a few drops of oil here and there. Definitely got to factor additional cost above the cost to buy the bike. Sounds like common sense I know. I learned the hard way. 3k bike was really a 4500$ bike.
Living in the UK any harley pre evo motor is rare and expensive. Shovels are being imported and they start at $6k as a rather rough project and go upwards, iron head sportsters start at $4.5k. There are always lucky people who get a bargain but since the internet being about people can Google their bike and get an idea of what it is worth. In the UK we have had a spike in the prices of any bike from the 70's and 80's with what was a $500 bike 5 to 10 years ago now costing $2000 to $3000 and in the case of some bikes double that and people need to readjust to the new reality.
I bought mine last summer for 1300 bucks. Rear fender was off and it needed a brake line. Sat for 6 years but fired right up after some fresh gas
I live in central SC too. Last year I started looking for an EVO. I found a one owner ‘97 Wide Glide with 13 thousand miles. It was kept in a garage and looked like a new bike. All original with a stage 2 done. The bike runs like new too. Came with a cloth indoor cover, owners and shop manual. $6000. It was in Naples Fl. It was a two day trip. I camped in a State Park. I bought it to ride not to resell. So I ate the gas money.
Something is worth what someone else is willing to pay. Great channel by the way.
F,,,,,k all the haters…. Period😊 I like your channel. So much about brotherhood….
Right on brother. Well done. 👍
Pay no mind on the arm chair experts. I wish we could get Shovelheads for that price in here in Australia.
Mate you're not wrong there. I'm also from Australia and the price for any Harley is crazy. The only reason I bought a Shovel is because Pans are so expensive. I can remember seeing a red and white 65 Electra-Glide for $12000 AUD.
I should have bought it back then and I'm still kicking myself. Being Australian, you would know about GT HO Falcon's being just over $5000 AUD brand new. Now they cost anything over a Million Dollars. So, Shovelhead's are quite cheap in comparison.
I've owned 3 1976 Harleys, $2800-3500 . 2 sportsters one I customized and rebuilt and the other and easyrider type chopper. And a 76 electra gluide. Nice looking and a good runner until you loaded all of your gear and my wife and on a long run it needed a new top end at 22000 miles. I wish I were young enough tio do it again.
1966-69 flat side FLs are at the top of the heap. AMF took ownership in 69.
1970, 71& 72 FLs are very desirable because of the drum brakes.
1971 & 72 FX Super Glides are unique because of the drum brakes and XL front forks (many were boat tails)
1973 was the last year FX only Superglide.
1974 - 80 added more models to the line up with an increase in cu. in. starting in 78.
1981-84 had a slightly different frame.
The Motor Co. broke from AMF in 82. 1983 & 84 had final belt drives.
1980 - 1984 FLT based models had a rubber mount engine & 5 speed trans - because of the saddle bags & instrument placement these are not easily customized and are presently the least desirable.
The FXR line from the early 80s is finally being recognized as the best performer of them all.
An original paint 66 could be worth $30,000 & a butt ugly 80 FLT can be found for $3,000. 😅
Solid writeup!! especially the last 2 lines. I have an OP 77 and an 84 FLHP (they were all final chain driven, mine is anyway)
@redhillvintagemotorcycles1725 many 83 & 84 FLHPs were chain final drive, some with foot Clutch/hand Shift.
190+ units were built & delivered in 85 to meet contract requirements.
Glad I searched Shovelheads and found you. Gonna finish it later but I like the way you are calling out the knuckleheads-pun intended. Some people's kids just don't know how to act and have to put everything down and try to one up everything and everyone.
This is great advice. Always do plenty of "homework" before looking for any model/year H-D. Ask a lot of questions, even if they sound "dumb." Build right. Ride safe -- W
I overpaid for my twin cam 20 years ago;It was exactly what I wanted I consider it a very cheap purchase as I still have it
If you've kept it for 20 years, you got your money out of it for sure!! Keep riding it they don't make them like that anymore
Just found your channel by chance. Really like the idea behind it "old er" Harleys. I paid $4000 for my 72 flh 4 years ago.
You say you love the idea that you did all the work, well that's my biggest problem lol. I do 😢all my own work as well but i ride alone in the Maine woods and breaking down could get me a very long walk. Trusting my work is my issue.
I know i should prob buy something else but i do love this bike
Anyway, I'm glad i found the channel
Looking forward to checking out more of your content
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Appreciate the comment! Good luck on your project
Don’t let the Trolls get you down. I really like your channel and your Shovelhead is awesome. If you think you got a good deal on it, you got a good deal, end of discussion. FTW.
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I paid $5000 for my 76 FLH Electra glide back in 1994 rode it home about a 2 hour drive not sure if it would make it, bike was complete just very well worn. rode it for the first summer. then went through the whole thing investing another $5000. probably over paid for it in the beginning, but don't regret any of it. I love this bike. It's not about the value of the bike. it's about the value it has for me. as I will never sell it, it'll be my sons to do whatever he wants with it after I'm gone.
That equals $10,401.06 today. Just consult the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation, calculator.