CZ P10C...Sorry Glock But You're Done!
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Glock is probably the best selling handgun brand..
Ive been to gun shops where literally all they carried were Glocks.. Nothing else..
Im sure there are better handguns out there.. I feel probably all modern handguns perform pretty good.. At this point we are splitting hairs IMO
You did screw up...the title of this video.
Lol, nice title. Gun looks like the Glock 45 but I think CZ put needles in the grip texture!
lol.. CZ makes a nice handgun.. but Glock is on top, we all know that, and for good reason.. nice CZ tho for what it's worth.
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Because I come from Czech republic so I have to own CZ logically and this is a great choice and excellence evolution of guns from CZ factory. By the way, my father was work in CZ factory. But it is other history 😉
I'm Czech and live in Texas I love my czpo9 and czp10c. Excellent. Family in Prague and Moravia
Nice 😁@@MichaelMiller-op5sx
@jaroslavh943 not loving my p10c right now only 34 rounds and the stupid slide stop spring. Looks like alot of people had trouble out of it and I'm questioning my Tigger if I ever get to shoot it because the slide stop spring keeps coming of I can determine the trigger and looks like guide rod could be questioning. I think I'm going to fix it and sell or trade and get a IWI Masada
Here's some Timestamps for the impatient
2:30 Unboxing/ Overview
3:45 Features/ Specs
8:12 Disassembly
9:39 - 12:10 Shooting Section
14:50 Pros & Cons
1169Ron, idiot. This is how I want an in depth review to be before I decide to buy a certain gun.
... um, wait are you saying I'm an idiot? I'm confused.
11696Ron thank you Sick of wasting time hearing shit I don’t wanna
11696Ron how much for this gun???? I am looking for a deal somewhere? What’s a good price range for the tactical model?
I don't know about a tactical version but the MSRP for the suppressor ready P10C is $549. You'll probably be able to find it for around $400-500 depending on where you live or you can buy one online from a forum or a site like gunbroker.com.
I have both glock 19 gen 4 and CZ P10C. They are both excellent guns, shoot accurate with 115g, 124 and 147g FMJ Load. I shoot mostly, Seller n Bellet, PPU, CCI Blazer Brass and PMC. I have carried both of these guns in Full Kydex holster and Alien Gear Holster. The CZ has better trigger, better grip and sights. The glock 19 gen 4 is lighter in weight, the Grip is not better than the P10C and the sights are the normal field goal sights. Price was, I got my P10C for $480 and my glock 19 Gen 4 FDe for $499. You do get 3 mags with the glock 19 and 2 mags with the CZ p10c. The good news is that CZ P10C fits my glock holsters and no need to buy more holsters. I mean, guys seriously were splitting hairs here. If you can affrod it, then I say buy both. But if you could only have one, I would pick the CZ P10C. Thanks again Hegshot, excellent review and nice camera work Ms. Hegshot.
I bought mine today and it will be fun to shoot. Seems like the added features like the night sights and trigger make it a much better value than my Glock 19. Both guns probably shoot the same I will find out at the range. Optics are important
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@@jeffreyalakes So did you find out????
Very nice summary. I bought a 10C in the spring of 2020 and was immediately impressed with it. Since then I've bought 3 more CZ's (10S, Scorpion and Shadow 2). The only thing that bothered me about the 10C was the aggressiveness of the grip texture when carrying. I put talon grip pro texture on it and it's now perfect. I run an Olight valkyrie mini 2 and other than that - I haven't felt the need to upgrade anything on this gun
I own a Glock 19 Gen 4. And it's my go to pistol. But the CZ P10c is everything I wanted a Glock to be. The upgrades we wish Glock would do for years, the P10c has it. I want one.
Go buy it.
The cz has in no way proven it's reliability like the glock has. Talk to me in 30 years.
exactly. I've owned numerous glocks, and I have always loved and appreciated their products, but I would spend months and hundreds of dollars trying to get my glocks to feel like.....what the CZ P-10 C feels like out of the box
Don Settie CZ has been around since 1939. It was military issued
Glocks are designed to be personalized to your liking, they are priced to leave room to do so, I believe that is one of glocks greatest appeals.
I mean who wants it the way someone else likes it?
Excellent video first and foremost. I have both the G19 and the CZ. Both are excellent weapons and is an absolute pleasure to have both. The G19 is a tad bit lighter, but the grips are definitely subpar in regards to the CZ. Also, the CZ has a better trigger than the Glock. I agree with your assessment that the trigger is PPQ ish. The trigger is what draws me to the CZ a little more. Now, don't get me wrong, I love my G19 as well. Either one of these guns will be a great pick, if you can afford it get both, but if you can only choose one, I would have to say the CZ is a slightly better choice in my humble opinion.
I've finally handled this firearm, and I LIKE IT! It comes with three different back-straps to adjust it to your hand, and the quality of the firearm itself is superb. Well, hell, it's a CZ.
Can't wait to bring my CZ P10S home! I'm in my waiting period. I'll get the C eventually, but I'm glad to be getting the S for concealment.
The CZ P10 C FDE is amazing, night sites and all, I love mine! 👍
I own two P10C, including this exact model and it is a fantastic pistol. I bought the second one because I literally could not find a Glock 19 for sale. Glock isn't going anywhere, but the CZ is a better all around pistol.
Glock will never be done. There is no Glock 19 killer. I own several Glocks, Sigs and MP 2.0. I like the Sig and MP better but Glock isn’t done.
Glock will never be done while blind fanboys buy inferior product for more money because they believe that piece of plastic and steel is made from unobtanium laced with unicorn farts and blessed by fairy tears ...
Glock is not more or less reliable than most other poly guns on the market
Glock has BY FAR the WORST ergonomics on the market - its still the same prototype design from eighties at its core ...
Glock is also one of the most cheaply made handguns on the market ... yet sold for premium cost
Glock still to this day has only partially supported chambers ... despite having SERIOUS problems (read DANGEROUS KABOOMS) in the past
Glock still also insist on selling gun for premium price with abysmal polymer sights
Glock also for some reason insists on using carappy proprietary accessory rail instead of 1913 ...
and so on ...
@@Asghaad also Glocks are barely more attractive than a hi point.
Watch every police shooting and that’s proof that Glocks work looks don’t make a gun more efficient
@@sethdechand2657 no but bad ergonomics and cheap pressed sheet metal internals do ...
@@AsghaadYou also failed to mention that Every major law enforcement agency in the country chooses to carry Glock before all others. The same is true in Canada. But of course they are all fanboys, while your above post is ignorant of facts and flat out asinine.
There are a lot of really good striker fired pistols out there. I still don't see Glock being done anytime soon.
Cz the best gun
Exactly.
Competition is a good thing. Im sure neither going anywhere, just get even better even faster. We're spoiled for excellent choices. Dont forget M&P. Any one would serve you well.
Reality can't beat hype.
Agreed. Not sure why people choose to get emotional about what pistol they think is best. Glock, cz, m&p, etc will all shoot reliably and accurately right out of the box.
I have about 1300 rounds through mine.
The mag release smooths out nicely after 400-500 rounds. I also found the slide stop to be a challenge at first, although that has completely smoothed out as well.
I love my P10c I have Suppressor ready model got about 1500 rounds through it so far my new EDC shoots everything i put in it so far no problems
I have the same one. Just hit the 1100 round mark and not a single issue. I carry that pretty lady everywhere I go. I'm excited for the P-10 F that just came out.
CZ is good and so is Glock, I'm perfectly confident and happy with my Springfield XD
XDs are great too, never owned one myself but my buddy has one in 9 and 45 and I've shot and loved them! Also I saw they are making the XDs in 10mm now so I might have to snag one!
Blasphemy lol
I'm a CZ and Springfield evangelist. CZ for 9mm and XDM for big bore but now i'm conflicted that CZ put out the p10f in 45 acp
I really appreciate the way you talk to us ordinary middle-class citizens looking for a great but value priced pistol.
I own both, but was blessed with small hands. it's massively easier for me to pick up the front sight on the cz for better grouping. They are both amazing guns that will work when you need it most.
Cheers bros
Well I'm taking my Glock, my Glock shirt and my Glock Hat and I'm going Home.
I think MP 2.0 compact is at least as good. There have been numerous issues with the CZ, if you ate not aware. I'll take the MP2 or Block any time of the day.
I just got my P10C slide done by Jagerworks, HB industries trigger, talon grip, and RMR type 2.... thing is BOSS. everyday carry for sure and pistol of choice.
I have only been able to handle the P-10C and I really like the way it feels in the hands. It seems like CZ made a great attempt at making a handgun that addresses things Glock owners have been asking for for years. I compared my G19 Gen 4 to the CZ and like others have said, the CZ is slightly larger, but not enough to really matter. The trigger on the CZ was definitely better than the average Glock. I own several Glocks and I end up replacing the triggers because I hate the feel. Most have either an Overwatch Precision or a Apex.... The reason I mention this is because I have to figure in the price of a new trigger (and sights) every time I buy another Glock.
I am having a hard time trying to decide between the P-10C and the M&P 2.0 Compact. A friend of mine picked up the M&P when they first came out and I have to admit, it shot great. Then he installed the new Apex trigger on it and in my opinion that combination was without a doubt the best striker fired trigger I have ever felt. Better than my Glocks, PPQ and VP9's. Combine that with the fact that you can buy a new M&P and the Apex trigger for about the same price as a new G19. Decisions, decisions.
That is a good thing that the mag release is very hard to push that will prevent you from pushing it in when you are carrying it!
Happy Easter buddy
Same to you shipmate!
video starts about 3 minutes in
It was changed to a revisable. Fix the problem.
I have one and LOVE IT 😍
Sam Albanese same here
i paid 419, at my local shop, for a GEN 2, with threaded barrel and tritium sights from factory, made in Czech. I am extremely pleased!
I own two CZ pistols: the P10-F and the P10-C suppressor-ready. Both of them reliable, very accurate, with amazing trigger pulls. Nothing but praises from me. No complains. All good.
Love this pistol. I have ~1500 rounds through mine. No issues whatsoever with slide stop or mag release. Still no malfunctions.
Mag release smoothed out wonderfully after 300-400 rounds. The slide stop also becomes much easier to operate with time.
Slide also releases forward automatically if you insert the magazine firmly.
And another added bonus is that after about 700 rounds the trigger gets even smoother, like silk butter.
I also just found it to be an exceptionally easy pistol to shoot well. So much that I sold my PPQ a week after picking up the P10C.
@@willa1975 I traded my Beretta PX4 Storm and paid the difference to get my P-10C. Ugly as it was, I loved my Beretta. It is a great gun, but this CZ is better than any other handgun I've ever used, including the Glocks I've carried. Glock is solid, but they've gotten lazy, IMO.
@@codyduncan6801 I definitely don't think a Gen 5 G19 is worth an extra $200-250 after factoring in the cost of an aftermarket trigger. Glock definitely has the advantage in the aftermarket, but I really don't feel the need to change anything except for the night sights that I installed shortly after I got the gun.
The one potential problem is magazine availability, although a gun shop in my area carries P10C magazines, so I'm set there.
@@willa1975 Magazines are definitely difficult to find, but they're getting a bit cheaper, thankfully. I shop on Big Daddy Unlimited and they have the 17 round mags for roughly $30. I swapped my suppressor height sights for regular height tritium sights, and I couldn't be happier. Part of me wishes CZ had the aftermarket options that Glock has, but as you started, there isn't really anything that needs to be changed. It isn't "perfect" but for the price point and the out-of-box quality, I couldn't be happier. If Glock had done something akin to this, they'd have received my money, and likely a lifelong customer.
Any big plans for your P-10C? Have you checked out the P-10F yet?
Without competition there would be no need to improve upon, thanks CZ
Great point.
Rough texturing is great for self-defense, maybe not for range practice. I just purchased three P-10 models in the last 4 months. My first was P-10 C, then a P-10 C tactical threaded barrel, and last a P-10 S. I bought all three for under $338 including shipping and taxes. I am so happy with all of them.
Very thorough and excellent review. I certainly wouldn't have any hesitation trusting my life to this pistol. Also, as you mentioned, for what is included with this firearm - it is one heck of a deal.
They are a great alternative to a glock 19. I still prefer the Walther PPQ, but I would have a P10c(the stippling is better than anything out there, much better than my preferred PPQ) over most glocks....YMMV
I love my p10c. I got a black one last summer. I traded it in and got an fde one last December. And wow what a difference the trigger on the fde one was way better. The night sights were a nice upgrade too. I dod have to change out the front sight though it was wayyyyyy too small, Cajun gun works makes a good replacement
Any problems with it being picky with ammo?
Nice review. This was on my possible to get list but I’m glad I stayed away after hearing about issues it was having and limited parts available.
Great combination ..... CZ P10C and the Tulster Profile Holster. Just add the Tulster Sidekick option. Ultimate comfort and concealment.
Can't be better than a Glock if you can't find one to buy! Never had trouble finding a Glock. Finding a few videos on problems with the CZ also!
Thanks for your video. Whats funny to me is how every gun maker is trying to dethrone Glock. Theres many great pistols on the market to choose from. In my opinion find one that feels great in your hand and become proficient with it. Practice practice. People are always focusing on whats the best pistol. There is no best pistol. The best pistol for you is the one you can get hits on target with. Modern handguns are all very good.
I bought one of these about 3 weeks ago. I'm very happy with my decision. Now the long wait for the license to be approved.
Great gun however I like my glock 17's slide and grip much much more.
My buddy got one with upgraded sights and threaded for a suppressor. Pretty awesome
How many times did he say “Just like a Glock” 😆 😆
This may be a great gun but I will never know. I love my g26 and don’t need to change for anything else
I had mine for about a year. And I love it.
This looks very close to my SAR K2P except the safety paddles are bigger, not quite as close to the body, and the trigger guard is rounded towards the front.The amazing fact that you have a Tulster holster for it will be my choice, also, if they can make one for me. Glad I stumbled upon this video. God Bless.
I’m a Glock fan boy and always my favorite but this CZ P10c is one sweet shooter!!! Def a good one to have!!! Good luck with all this YTube BS!!! Happy Easter!!!
I'm actually a CZ fan and I'm not a big fan of glocks although I do think they are good guns but after renting both to compare I actually really didn't like the P10C and felt the Glock19 was better for me. Strange... Regardless though I like the CZ P07 over both of them so I'm ok with it but the P10C kept pinching my pinky finger AND my trigger finger. My pinky lays on that seam between the mag and frame so when shooting the mag would move slightly and pinch me pretty good and I had to constantly remind my self to keep my trigger finger high because it wanted to slip to the bottom of the trigger and i'd get pinched between the trigger and trigger guard. It wasn't very enjoyable to shoot. P07 shoot great for me.
Glock 19 all day!
Doug Floyd I seen them all BUT WE WORK and play so let's see what you got.
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The grip digs into your hand w the recoil
Its rather pleasant
Hey Hegshot one thing I would like to see more of is a look at the magazines, the follower, and the effectiveness of the release, because for me I like knowing if a gun has a really positive magazine release or if the magazines are slow to eject. Would only add a few seconds to the videos. Great review though.
"Soory glock but you are done"
First thing : "it took me a year to find one"
Glock so far behind HK and CZ gen 5 glock looks just like the the gen 1 still cheap plastic sights and garbage trigger 🤢
Personally between FN and CZ the only glock I could see me owning is a g19 so I could have the magazine capability to switch to a AR-9 or the keltec s2000
If I didn’t know I’d put this at about 600$. I got mine for 425$. I LOVE my P10C!!!! By far my favorite handgun I own and I own SEVERAL. Lol. I’ve got about 2400 rounds through mine with only one malfunction. A hollow point got stuck on the side of the barrel. That was in the first 50 rounds. Have had ZERO problems since. I love it!!! I carry a PPS M2 in the summer and my p10c in the winter spring and fall. Love it love it love it!!! Bout to bust it out again. It’s starting to cool off. 👍🏼🤙🏼😁
this explains why my local gun shop has one of these and only 4987 glocks. i wondered where that 4988th glock went.
Everybody wants to be like Glock, but they're just. . . like, not Glock! 😉
the most copied in the world is the classic cz75b, grandmother of this gun. That`s all.
So true
Well said.
You're right, CZ actually sells stock guns with quality triggers and sights.
yes THANKFULLY manufacturers improved on the outdated design and provide superior product ... with better build quality ... for lower price ...
This is the “Shasta soda” of glocks lmao
Dude, it's a CZ. Your attempt at a joke just made you sound awfully ignorant
Nice gun. I would like to add this to go along with my Glock.
3 glocks all .40 caliber carry cz 10 as a school cop department issued very similar but the cz 10 still needs to grow up
Need, need a sub compact version NOW.
Sub and Full size are out now, but they're difficult to find.
YES!!! IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO DO THIS GUN!!! THIS IS THE BEST GUN I OWN BY FAR! Lol sorry, I'm excited
Just curious, but what all do you own? LOL
Beautiful gun ... very exciting for the price. Thanks for the review.
I'm in love with the CZ P-10C and P-07
Fracturing frames at pin points and mag release buttons falling off during firing .... great trigger feel ...
If you can't beat Glock join em
Believe me you can beat Glock!!! Glock is nothing but a fad, like so many other things in life!!!
FN
@@HDRed-cs5ym
I don't think 20+ years is a fad but you seem to know everything so there's that.
G is Over Rated
H.D. Red Glock a fad? LOL. This guy 😂
I simply love this gun, my 19 left. But I still have other glocks. But my opinion the cz is better in my hands that my previous 19 gen 4.
Earl An uploaded a great video sometime ago about taking out the mag catch and polishing it up, I tried it and it works
much better, also loosens up even more after a few hundred rounds, also the HBI trigger upgrade was totally awesome! made all the difference for me. It's a keeper!
I will check it out. Thanks
Handling one next to my G19 made the P10C feel like a full sized gun. A few ounces heavier, a little longer, a little taller, and all together made it feel like a much larger gun.
After all this time I rarely see P10C's in stock, where as new Glocks or S&W compacts are everywhere.
A P10 subcompact would be great, but the Glock 26 will still be easier to find, lighter and smaller.
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If you want to CCW with that gun up against your skin, you can just sand down the side of the grip where it touches your skin, just enough, until you like the feel.
I own the ppq 5 inch and love it. However, I was hoping to find a pistol with a comparable trigger that maybe shoots a lil flatter than the ppq. In your opinion, does this cz fit that bill?
Yeah but try finding a p10 anywhere! I can go in any gun store and pick up a glock. I have been trying to get a p10 from my guy for 4 months and his distributor never has any.
Buds gunshop
Forget all of em', just carry a Draco.
I'm getting one!! Thank your for your review.
Did you end up getting one? If so how do you like it?
I have a sig 320 GLOCK 19 MP 2.0 AND NOW CZ P10C I PERSONALLY enjoy CZ better than any other the trigger and price and value I paid 410 because buds give military discount
The Glock are the layout of all those pistol he just said similar... just make simple Glocks original other are clones.
What??
The VP70 is a polymer striker fired gun, produced from 1970 to 1989. 18 Rounds capacity. Predates the first Glock models by 10 Years. Just because you like something or it is used commonly, does not make it the "Original".
So let me get this straight, CZ releases a pistol with a Glock take down, Glock stippling, Glock trigger Guard, the only two levers on the gun(mag&slide release) don't function properly out the box, and the weapon has since been discontinued and replaced with a non-ambi mag release version. But Glock is Done?
they did stumble a bit on some details on gen 1. Luckily I waited and got Gen 2. Gen 2 P-10 C beats glock 19. I'm sorry, but it just does. I have both. G19 was a legend, and still is......but it has been outdone. They simply fixed all my gripes about the G19
You forgot to add the Gen 4 glock issue right out of the gate. Shitty trigger right out of the box. Recoil spring issue right out of the gate causing slides to crack.
I bought one 5 years ago and it was a great pistol that I regretted selling. I was in my local gun store in FL and they had the P10C with night sites for 399.00 so I picked up another one.
Your P10 trigger must not have the sticky little issue I felt on several I've tried. I'm not sure I was blown away but it was fairly impressive. It's not a Glock killer but they're listening to customers far more than Glock is.
All the designs on this gun look like like they came from a Glock great job making another block XD
What's your point?
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That holster doesn't cover the mag releases, which allows the mag to be accidentally released. Terrible design
Matthew Ashmore not sure how much you have carried. I have been carrying for 40+ years with to many different guns and holsters to count. I have had leather, kydex, hybrds IWB and OWB most of them don't cover the mag release and I have yet to have a magazine fall out. The only drop I had came while pocket carry in tight jeans and I did it pulling the gun out hitting it with my finger. But at the end of the day you must use what you feel comfortable with.
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nice review, mag release pressure you can adjust in like less than 20mins
I bought one, it is extremely accurate!
Another “Glock Killer” video on UA-cam, just what we all need. 😂
westbender 820 lmao
Glock will never be done.
Tim I totally Agree
I agree Tim. The fact the video is titled, "Glock you're done" only gives credence to the fact Glock's number one lol.
They are now
Damn. I love GLOCKS
Ok, I love my Glock 30SF 45 much more than almost everything in this world. Sorry wife.
Great pistol. Definitely more fun to shoot than my g19.
I have other CZ pistols and rifles. Love them all. Might try a striker fired. Want to see if I find the CZ nicer than my G19.
“buT iTs juST anOtHeR coPY oF thE gLoCk” - glock fan boys who have no mind of their own
I will never buy that. I love my glocks I have many and never failed on me
The cz p10 c was highly recomended by the the person joing a competetion, it is very smooth, but if you are not playing any compet.. must buy your glock, also the cz is more expensive than your glock.
George Riparip no it’s not. You can get a p10c right now for as low as 350.. good luck finding any Glock for that price
Not a bad looking gun. Reminds me of my FNS-40s. I cannot go against my FNs, but this is appealing!
Glock isn't going anywhere
Earl Smith because people are too afraid to branch out and try other things
They shouldn’t. They’re great guns. Thanks to H&K Who were the first in the polymer game. Glock years later was able to develope one of the best polymer framed pistols that went unchallenged for decades. But other than the slight weight difference. The p10 is just better out of the box than a 19.
I'll take a CZ over a Glock any day of the week.
Idk clocks are pretty nice antiques
@@Bigmoose636 haha, yep. You're right. Everyone likes clocks.
Cool selection bro. Gl tryin to find a legendary holster for it , especially within 30 mile radius of where you live..
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Does the trigger have no resistance at first, or does the resistance feel pretty constant throughout before break?
Glock is here to stay
It's a copy of the Glock
Only comes with two magazines
It's ok though
The CZ is both cheaper and better.
Finally a CZ on your channel, but try out the other CZ like P01, SP01 or 2075 Rami you wouldn't be disappointed.
I have 12 CZ pistols. The mag release has been changed. I have the P10F, P10C, and P10S. And my triggers all were broken in after 200 rounds.
That looks like a copy of a glock.
But better
Yea a better version that glock should have been making years ago. But they don't listen.
You mean Glock AND CZ right? Canik.. the new "king of the hill" (for now :)
omg, canik is junk!
Canik...Turkish ripoff of Walther...garbage
@@arisdelis1 ...best selling gun in North America.
So I own this gun myself. The mag release will losen up after some use and time. I am so happy that I got this gun and I did a lot of research on it and others. I would buy this one again and pay more for it and still be happy.
Just bought one from a local pawn shop here in Fla. ,,, $450.00,,, I was lucky, the pawner never came back for it,,,, I haven't shot it yet but very excited and looking forward too it ! So are my peeps,,, they are really interested also ! All I can say ,,, 😁🖒🇺🇸✌
This guy loves the sound of his own voice.
Lololol yep. Talks alot, says damn little.
I really wish Glock had the feel of the new HK VP9, or the XD mod 2 All my Glocks feel like a 2x4 in the hand. Great reliability but for me uncomfortable after 150 rounds.
I've starting to sell off some of my Glocks. There's better options now than 10 years ago.
Dqalex Which other gun has its own shooting league(GSSF)? Which other gun has every holster/sight/accessory known to man available for it? Which other pistol can be detail stripped by a monkey in a couple minutes and has all parts easily available and cheap? Which other pistol comes with so many magazine capacity options? Which other pistol is used by millions and as proven with police? When that pistol comes along then I may sell some Glocks.
Fui Gebhardt1 Having a gun like Glock that’s a total “system” is advantageous. Look at the big picture. There are guns that are cheaper than Glock or that have better trigger pulls or ergonomics sure. That still doesn’t mean they are better overall. And for people who may want to try competition but not want to do IDPA etc. buying a Glock and shooting GSSF is the ticket.
all of that is great Chris but at the end of the day I find the grip on the Glock very uncomfortable. 10 years ago it was the best out there. Now a lot of malefactors have different mag capacity options and are much more comfortable to shoot. Look at the inside of an H&K. Than look at the inside of a Glock. H&K's are built like a tank. Open a Springfield XD mod 2 or an XDM. The workmanship is night an day compared to Glock. I'll take a Springfield, H&K or a Sig over a Glock.
Dqalex Yes I’m well aware of what’s out there. I’ve owned/shot guns like the VP9, PPQ, CZ P10C, M&P. All great guns no doubt. Your comment about the intervals is great and all but I don’t see any parts breaking on Glocks that don’t also break on HK, S&W, Walter etc. and Glocks have more real world high round count pistols out there than all those manufacturers combined. I love HK but issue them in the numbers that Glocks are and see what happens. Case and point the USBP. Research. There is no perfect pistol out there. HK no doubt takes the time to test and use great quality materials but the few times they’ve been issued in large numbers they’ve had the same problems as everyone else sometimes more. Cracked P2000 and USP frames for example. Or if the ejector is damaged it’s non replaceable without replacing the whole frame.
Would you trust your life with the p10c? How do you feel it will hold up over time and 1000s of rounds? Thanks!