Airbus A320 pilots' view ILS Approach CAT III LOWW-VIE in bad weather
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Watch an Airbus 320 perform a CAT III autoland approach procedure at Vienna Airport Runway 29. Listen to ATC and pilot communication, enjoy the point of view as if YOU were one of the pilots. Lowest minimum on A320 is 75m RVR, NO DH.
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The end of the video is where the REAL work begins....finding the gate in that muck.
That was stunning. I can't imagine landing with no visibility until the landing lights are seen at two hundred feet. My respect to those in the cockpit.
Made me nerves just watching and those approach light's never looked so good
Its all automatic. You can hear they disengage the autopilot after they have already landed. Their job essentially is to keep cool.
Also to autopilot
my guy, respect to the autopilot
@@rykehuss3435 yes but you have to be very experienced and mentally skilled to put your trust in a 200+ ton vehicle flying on its own. Pilots rarely use autopilot when landing or taking off so there is much skill needed.
I can not explain the good feeling you have when you punch out and see those beautiful colorful runway lights.
Of all the CAT III approaches on Ytube. This one's the best. Thanks for posting.
Thanks! “One day” I’ll finally upload another video with less visibility…
the sensation of landing in these conditions is something you have to experience up front to fully understand
Dang. Now that's trusting your instruments.
apiece ofdirt
There’s an element of trusting the instruments, but the pilots closely monitor them should something go wrong. The instruments are doing a lot of work but pilots try not to get too complacent in always trusting them.
Junior Thing is pilot’s are such experts at what they do, if you were an actual pilot and trained i doubt you would
@Junior A cringe? You mean relief?
If you do not train yourself to trust your instruments, you’d crash in about 178 seconds.
Look up “178 seconds to live”.
Instruments can fail. What you are trusting here is redundancy.
I´ve had that experience on 16th of dec 2022 on flight EW 9558, TFS to DUS, arriving at 5:20 p.m. The captain told to passengers already 1 hour before landing about a difficult landing because of extreme bad weather situation in DUS. My seat in A320 was Window 9A. 2 minutes before landing the aircraft was diving into the clouds - I could see landinglights exactly in the moment the aircraft touched the ground - for me amazing. Reducing of speed was normal. At all moments of this approach I felt safe. Thank You to the very good crew!
That was a phenomenal display of the sync between pilot and plane. Instruments and crosschecks. Beautiful. Well done.
Man, you got to admire the modern technology for both ILS and AP.
Yes and no: the computing power of an ordinary iPhone probably surpasses all computers and processors built into a modern airliner.
But the important topic is "reliability". While I appreciate all the possibilites and apps of an iPhone I certainly would not want to have my life depend on it...
Feyg Aeckaunt
the latest FMGC is praised for it's higher memory capacity of .. 5 Megabyte.
I'd guess I'm right ;-)
Feyg Aeckaunt
okay, regarding computing power: the latest release offers already 32 bit processors..
AirplanetvCOM I don't think you require that much processing power for the ILS system anyway, once the ILS is established, the computer just tells the autopilot what way to turn to maintain the centerline
If you combined them, yes, but I think each screen is a separate computer unit that streams movies etc from a central server (judging by how they can reboot an individual screen if something goes wrong), I was just making a link to the original comment, but you make a good point.
Now this is zero visibility.
+333crypta not quite, we are authorized to land down to 75m RVR. And then the biggest challenge is to find the way to the parking position..
wow, happy flying.
+AirplaneTVcom lol I never thought about that! Of course there are dozens of nav aids to get you on the runway nice and safe, but what about from the runway to the gate? Interesting thought. That what I love about the internet. I learn something every time I am on it.
Rimbolt Jaxt , What gets you to the gate?....... Paint.
Sonny Burnett low VI's taxi diagrams called SMGCS. Depending on the actual VI's, the taxi route is already preselected and ground will say "taxi to spot 6 report clear of x runway".
They should classify this as a "can't see shit" approach
Css, nice
ATC: Cleared for CSS landing on runway two-niner.
I mercy of instruments
I agree!
Aaaah, the old CSS approach 😉
A common misconception about the autoland procedure is that the pilots simply "sit back and watch it all happen" without any input whatsoever, which is not the case at all.
While they may not be physically manipulating the primary flight controls (elevator/aileron/rudder), they are still monitoring the approach and manually operating everything else, including the flaps, landing gear, spoiler arming, and retarding the thrust levers during the flare. They are also watching for any deviations from the safe approach path and airspeed, ready to initiate a go-around/missed approach if it all starts going wrong. The autopilot certainly isn't 100% fool proof and must be treated with great respect and without complacency.
Also, to all those people saying the conditions weren't CAT III, and that an autoland wasn't required: a valid conclusion of the actual prevailing conditions cannot be drawn from just watching the video. The ATIS at the time most likely advised that conditions were dropping below CAT I, meaning it would be advisable to use the aircraft's autoland system in anticipation of the conditions REDUCING BELOW the minimums required for a manual landing. After all, that's what this system is there for - to provide a safe method of landing the aircraft in very poor visibility :)
An excellent and very informative video!
Alexander McAllister u dont say...
Also, Boeing has the same technology which is used quite often as well.
What mechanism does auto-pilot system use to find and land the airplane exactly on the runway in no visibility?
amaster87 You might know, but you are not alone on youtube, you know that smartass.. there are many people who don’t know half as much as you do, so show at least some respect to Alexander for explaining it.
A lot... There is beacon shooting to the sky and it uses that and some other parts.
I'm an instrument rated pilot and fully understand all this....but it still blows my mind every time I see it.
I *know* commercial pilots are trained to do this but I will never stop being in awe. It’s just magic!
Was on a plane landing in Amsterdam on a day exactly like this once, it was so scary! I thought it would be impossible to land...technology and pilots are awesome.
Just incredible the way lights show up when it reaches just 200 feet. A completely auto pilot controlled landing.
Great vid, thanks for sharing! I can't imagine the tension in the cockpit during at CAT III
without auto-pilot landing could be difficult it seems, esp since the runway didnt appear till 200ft above surface, scary, leaves no room for error, great video - thanks
You are right.
I know this is quite old, but still props for having one of the best pea soup landing videos on UA-cam. Love it
Well done crew, and well done A320 engineers! Very impressive, the lack of any 🔊 Minimums 🔊!
Incredible and professionalism by pilots and controllers.
wow no need for the plane to call the pilots names right before landing
They used auto land, they're lucky the auto pilot didn't shout out "pussies" as well 😂
"How low can you go" thank's Barnes Wallace...for making air travel safe and very exciting to watch...I wonder what his thought's would be after watching a vid like this one?....thank's for the upload and many thank's to the many who make it happen!..Nice landing!..."auto land"...
All I am amazed by sheer calmness of the pilots.
What a display of high tecnology. Simply amazing.
0:16 I was flying a 737-600 PMDG (P3D) into KHRL at night and it was very foggy and low clouds. Using Precipit FX 737 package, i was able to experience that. The lights hitting the fog and clouds, strobe lights reflecting off them also. It was a real treat. Great video. Regards, from the USA.
Unglaublich ..... Autofahren im Nebel ist schon eine Kunst aber das hier toppt das Ganze noch.
Perfekte Landung!!!
*this makes me admire ILS so much more*
@starjack24:
That depends: during an autoland approach with NO decision height "automatic rollout" is required, thus the autopilot must remain on until the aircraft reaches taxi speed, until that time the autopilot also maintains runway centerline.
During autoland approach with "manual rollout" the a/p has to be switched off after mainwheel touchdown and the captain needs to maintain runway centerline.
Does an ILS approach with no decision height exist? I thought with a CAT 3 approach it is at min. 50 ft AGL.
As far as I know, the AP disconnects as soon as you make any rudder or tiller inputs.
Of course there are lower minimums than CAT IIIa (50ft), as stated the lowest is 0ft ("no") decision height.
During an autoland approach and the automatic rollout you DON'T make ANY inputs with rudder/sidestick/tiller for the reason you mentioned.
***** All Cat III approaches have zero decision height but they are differentiated by the suffix a,b or c denoting the Runway Visual Range (RVR) limits. Cat IIIb being the lowest visibility...& I'm guessing RVR 100' - 150'? These approaches are made during extreme low ceiling/visibility conditions & are not available at all airports. The aircraft must also be equipped (3AP) & signed out to perform the approach. Generally Cat I & II are more the norm...most airports.
That's not true:
No DH= RVR 75m
20' DH=RVR 150m
50' DH=RVR 200m
All of these are CAT III with automatic landing, only the lowest minimum also requires also automatic roll-out.
+AirplanetvCOM Thanks for the correction. However this is a sticky subject among pilots & lots of "ambiguity" by the regulatory authorities (ICAO/FAA/JAA) with respect to CAT III minima.
Airbus - CAT I/CAT III Operations. www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1480.pdf
For CAT III operations, the JAA defines Decision Height.
"Decision height is the wheel height above the runway elevation by which a go-around must be initiated 'unless' adequate visual reference has been established with the aircraft position and approach path being assessed as satisfactory to continue the approach and landing in safety (JAA)."
The critical element for CAT III approaches is "visibility"...cloud ceiling is actually a non issue. It means - providing the visibility meets the RVR requirements for that particular CAT III A,B or C approach & the aircraft/crew are suitably certified for the type of approach, an approach & landing can be initiated. Interpretation for CAT IIIA means when the aircraft is at RA = 30m you should have not less than 200m (RVR) of forward visibility or CAT IIIB, not less than 50m (RVR) of forward visibility to legally & safely complete the landing. Unfortunately the CAT III definitions are quite ambiguous...read on.
2.2.1 CAT III A
ICAO and FAA definition
A category III A approach is a precision instrument approach and landing with "no decision height" or a decision height lower than 100ft (30m) and a runway visual range not less than RVR700ft (RVR200m).
Here is the "ambiguity"! Quote: "....no decision height or a decision height lower than 100ft (30m).....etc..." unquote. Interpretation? "no decision height" means zero feet (0")! Or...lower than 100ft. could mean "100', 99', 98'.......5', 4', 3', 2', 1', 0'......no decision height! Ambiguous!?
CAT III B similar interpretation: No DH or DH lower than 50' ....meaning 50',49', 48'....3',2'.1',0'!
Thanks for the upload.
Great Clip !
amazing how technology has made it possible!
that illusion "that You are too high"
Just got a briefing on the 787 instrumentation....fantastic.
What an amazing piece of kit the autopilot is.
I know everyone watching was on the edge of their seat ! Holly, that's a CAT III landing with white knuckles.... that was great team work !!
Seeing those beautiful jewels of landing lights come out of middle of nowhere reminds me why I fell in love with flying. In flying almost everything is drenched in elegance but filled with a lot of meaning; maybe I'm just an airplane nerd or maybe it's time to go to bed. lol. It's amazing we human-beings have learned to fly even though we were never meant to.
CAT 111 Excellent Captain!! Thanks for sharing video
That's mindboggling.
I am currently studying for my instrument rating, and have flown lots of simulated instrument approaches as well as a few actual approaches. After watching this video, I am saying to myself: "Why am I doing all of this again?" I did one just like this, except we came out of the clouds at 400 feet AGL, and it was 10 miles visibly below the clouds. I can't imagine flying all the way down to absolute minimums. This was crazy.
Whenever the plane doesn't crash it's amazing.
The Airbus AP is almost a Master Piece.
even the Boeing AP!
Wow, this is amazing! I love technology!
I fly and it still amazes me. Even how a plane can fly. Just amazing.
2:57 I feel like Stephen hawking is mad at me
Boeing's voices are decidedly more pleasant.
Actually they care not meant to be "pleasant", but raise your attention. Think of Neil Diamond singing an important warning...
he died
Did it said retard? 😀
It was satisfying to hear in the end that it was the autopilot mode going on
Chirp Chirp Chirp (The noise) is the autopilot disconnecting. ("Autopilot comes off", Chirp Chirp Chirp).
Thanks dear ILS , gracias querido ILS , "QUE SERÍA SIN USTED HE HE ."
made me teary eyed, the science behind this is ridonkulous
A/P Disc Warning is so much nicer in the Airbus than the 737.
zzodr it isnt supposed to be nice its meant to might even wake up somebody if needed
I actually read a journal on the science of cockpit voices and how they are picked according how the brain responded. One experiment they actually used the fighter pilot's mothers voice on the most urgent of warnings and found they were responded to much faster and urgently. Yeah I was in a FBO and bored....
That's my ringtone :P
Even the callouts are nicer
JIMJAMSC Can you give the link?
Great video to enlighten UA-cam viewers. Auto Land not much of a big deal now, but 45 years ago, the only large commercial jet with Auto Land was the then new Lockheed L-1011. The L-1011 was one of 3 Wide Body Jets of the day. It got a rough start with the Crash of Eastern Flight 401 in December 1972 (The aircraft involved was just months old). Flight 401 made famous by its aftermath of reported "Ghosts." A movie was produced starring Ernest Borgnine as the Captain of the flight. Eastern was besieged by so many stories about the ghosts, Frank Borman, its CEO and former astronaut, made a public statement denying the stories were true.
I remember the last time I had the opportunity to fly (or rather watch as three autopilots controlled) the A310-600RR which actually the simulator during training aCAT III C autopilot approach and landing. Since therunway edge lights are 200 in seperation We would see three lights down. I miss it so much.
LOWW is a real challenge. You've got rocks close and to either side of you. Go around is not an option.
This is serious flying.
I guess you mean Innsbruck, LOWI. You cannot perform auto-lands there, and In Vienna there are no rocks ;-)
@@Airplane_TV LOWI I for INNSBRUCK - yes, plenty of rocks especially just after the NDB bit before the descent with the glide. In the event of a go around the trees are below you on the left and the rocks are to the left, but you have no way of knowing how far left you can go before that right turn back onto the same runway and you could land but you can't see so if you make it round the bend you could even try a go around from that but only on good VMC.
You are confusing me again :-)
I remember landing in Myrtle Beach and there thick fog the whole time. I was just in awe how easily the pilot landed it. Amazing world we live in.
And once they have that auto-taxi thingomagic working...
Fabulous flying!
Well.. It's the autopilot system in this case, but still it's fabulous ;-)..
Landed at Gatwick October 2015 in bad fog. We had no idea that hundreds of flights had been cancelled or delayed and I didn't think it was possible to land.
Looking out of the window, we just saw white cloud and nothing else. I assume that our 777 had some sort of automation that enabled us to tackle the conditions.
We were placed in a holding pattern for 30 minutes and knowing that we were seconds from landing was quite nervy - because we couldn't brace for touchdown by looking out of the window.
Even after landing, we had to wait for an hour on the taxi lane, because there were no vacant gates.
Those pilots must have nerves of steel.
The weather seems for CAT II , not for CATIIIB however, this guys did a splendid job
Landing in such low i.e..almost no visibility is challenging task. Thanks to the ILS and pilots expertise in it
That was AMAZING. The trust the Pilots had to put into the plane and instrument Gauges. Nothing was in sight till 500 feet. Good Job. I would hire them both to become my "Permanent" Pilots whenever I fly.
Very good shot with dense fog👏🏼👏🏼
2:45 landing into heaven.
Wow that's basically putting your life in the instruments. Nice landing very nice
The capital of my country. Woww this Austrian Pilots are amazing
Nice thing about those foggy low ceiling nights. Never a xwind.
Hello! I wonder if I could use apiece of this video for a video I am creating about approaches, I would link to your channel of course, thanks
Hi, as long as you link back I’m okay with it.
Congratulations, Chief Pilo!
watching this makes me so happy im going for my private... what a cool job
So the plane is flying itself until he turns autopilot off?
That's the purpose of autoland
Yes. Autobrakes as well. Reverse thrust is the pilot. Tough part is now to taxi to the gate.
I've started using X-Plane 11 to know how it feels to be a pilot on commercial flights, and after a few months, I finally learned how to use the autopilot! Even I got surprised when I saw my airplane going straight to the runway, flaring and touching down... All I had to do, just like on the video, was to disengage the A/P and find the way out the runway!!!
@@Airplane_TV Who flares the plane? Does the autopilot doing this or has this do be done by the pilot?
I don't do fear very well! But they handled that beautifully, nice job
Is he playing guitar hero at 2:40?
lol, clever... very clever.
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LMAO!SMART
kkkkkkkk nice
Ahhhh
Landed amazing with auto pilot mode....
Technology rules the world
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I have been a passenger in one of these blind landings. It is spooky. You are looking out the window and your thinking to yourself *what are they doing? Can't they tell we've missed the airport?* And even when the wheels touch down, you cannot see shit. Very weird feeling.
"Approach, landing, and rollout are fully automatic" makes me think of the autopilot in the movie Airplane
thanks to inventer of the ILS, it is really helpfull in a dense foggy nite landing
I may or may not have been screaming "GO AROUND. GO AROUND DAMN IT" at the 300 callout. LOL.
Super Landung! Mehr Videos bitte!
Impressive; I kept thinking about Die Hard 2 though where the changed the ILS 200 feet below the runway.
Accuracy creates life in this situation
This is incredible
Amazing. Better them than me. Outstanding.
very well executed
These pilots are so frigging cool!
It's all 90/150hz. And a glideslope laid on its side with extra antennas is a localizer.. The theory is basically the same. Techs do constant far field DDM measurements at predetermined points on the airfield. Not to mention the constant flight checks to ensure the ILS is operating as its supposed to.
what amazing technology to be able to do that!
fantastic ILS approach : they're in heavy clouds. They don't see nothing, and when the clouds vanish, thyey are perfectly aligned on the track lights... Great pilots make great landings...
:-)
This was awesome, but am wondering if there are any autopilot systems which can land or help land in crosswinds?
Depending on aircraft a certain amount of crosswind is allowed with autoland, but it's far less than with manual landings.
"Sir the auto-landing computer has failed"
"Fuck..have to wing it then"
spasman that's why they have 2 auto pilots
just follow the glide sloape
I did not know you can do a full auto landing. I thought after 200'AGL it was hand flying...that was cool!
Absolutely amazing.
that's why the ILS, approch is the best option during IMC's.
This is scary.
As passenger, I had a similar landing in Lisbon a couple of years ago. I could barely see the wingtip and only saw the ground some 15 seconds before touchdown. The only clue I had about what we were doing was the gear extension and flap setting. Being an Air Traffic Controller, I'm used to be in charge and have all the information I want. Believe me, it therefore gets so much harder to be left in the dark- literally - with just my wristwatch and hoping for the best!
Not being able to see the runway until touchdown is a very strange feeling for pilots, too. But at least we have all the information that it's in fact where we want it to be..
3:14 Autopilot switched off. Passengers:Aplaud 😂
Instrument flying is so amazing.
Pena que aqui no Brasil ainda não tenhamos a possibilidade de ver um pouso como esse, mostrado nesse vídeo ! Não temos como usar o sistema 'autoland', pois não possuímos aeroportos com CAT III instalados por aqui !
Sim, mas você tem um clima melhor ;-)
die mensch-maschine is truly unstoppable
What happens if there are cross wind also ??
Does it autoland in that conditions also ?
I once landed in ice fog early in the morning, I thought we were still up in the clouds when we touched down, scared the shit out of me.
How cool is that then......+ 1 like for the Pilot.
which one? :p
One impressive technology
When does A/P get off ? is it after applying thrust reserver ? thanks for sharing very useful video for students..
The first airliner automatic landings were in the late 1960's - over 50 years ago.
Incredible video, incredible view. I wonder what it looked like from the instruments panel (and HUD...if one was present).
No HUD. I'll add instrument view to a later video
great video the boeing 727 is my favorite plane took my first trip on one im takinggg flying lessons i have about 25 ifr training hours with a cfi
I wish you good luck with your IFR training, but it will be hard to find a decent 727 thereafter. I do know a very nice one with VIP interior and winglets ;-)