Safest piece of equipment ? Bad ass engineers and software coders. The CREW is the weakest link in that airplane. This isn't 1920 or 30 or 50 or 2000 even. Pilots will eventually 'go away'. Sad but true. Military planes have capabilities that would kill the pilot, for example. The engineering and capability of modern aircraft FAR exceeds that of the human in the cockpit. Not that far into the future you'll get on a private jet or airline, it will all be single pilot and eventually, zero pilot. That's a 'done deal'. Computers are better than humans in tasks like this. And...their judgement is 'consistantly' better. The engineering is FAR more impressive than the pilot. There won't even be air traffic controllers one day, again not too far into the future. This is one area of human endeavor that all along the line other than the the maintenance and service.....its100% unnecessary. And time will prove me right. Pilots are ...well not what pilots used to be for one, and they are simply ...not...necessary...or the ATC they talk to. Can you taxi an airplane ? BAM, 'you're a pilot'. That's what a pilot is now. An airplane driver. Even THAT can be automated. The BADASSES are the people who design and build those airplanes and all that goes into it and who's education FAR EXCEEDS those flying those planes. Pilots are bus drivers. Simple as that.
@@James-zu1ij those are irrelevant in IFR. But if you don’t have the runway in sight at the MDA with minimum acceptable visibility, you have to go missed and that’s annoying.
@@nisargshukla This is a localizer approach. Aspen is one of the hardest places for a jet to land in the US. One way in, one way out, no autoland. Throw in snow and it is very tricky!
You gotta be shittin’ me. At least two minutes MVFR below the clouds and you call this challenging? Would love to know when he finally disengaged the AP.
Thanks for the comment. Aspen flying is unique and challenging, especially for the airlines. It's also some of the most professionally rewarding flying I've done.
Fantastic job. What you don't see in the video is the hill/mountain you fly over on final! Knowing its there and not seeing it gets the pucker factor up. Awesome! More... more!
I had to like this video simply because of the weather conditions he was flying in. I've flown localizer approaches before but never in the mountains. And I have only had to do maybe a handful of instrument approaches in my life. To the pilot, you get a big BRAVO from me. You are good.
Great landing. I used to work for Aspen Airways back when we were still flying BAE-146s into ASE. Those approaches to minimums always produced some white-knuckle passengers, especially when we had to miss the approach and go back to Stapleton (which was often itself close to minimums in the winter.)
Great stabilized approach and landing, Right down the center line and very smooth. Don't listen to Microsoft simulator flyers. They never leave the cave and always have a lot to say. May all your flights be great !
That was beautiful!! I'm such a rubbish flyer so have been watching difficult landings and the like in prep for a trip later this year... Vids like this are helping so much, you guys are amazing, it really is helping to settle the nerves! I'm actually starting to enjoy it to the point where I want to get up and give it a go!
@@ZorbaTheDutch My father in law had a Reliant Robin many years ago He lived up in Lincolnshire and one winter they had tons of snow. Although he didn't go to in the Reliant during this winter, his son did. Many of the smaller roads hadn't been cleared and this resulted in two deep ruts being formed on these side roads. This wasn't a problem for a 4 wheeled car but the Reliant could only be driven with the front wheel in one of the ruts, this meant a difficult and unnerving drive, crabbing along at about 45 degrees from straight. At one of the big agricultural shows my father in law managed to roll the Robin in one of the temporary car parks on an adverse camber, it rolled over an ended up back on all 3 wheels much to the amusement for onlookers, not so good for the occupants who weren't strapped in. A friend of mine Mike had a van version, he had loosely place two supplemental seats in the back, these were not fastened to the bodywork. While he was on holiday with his wife and parents, he managed to roll it on a road at reasonable speed. This resulted in a few injuries to the people in the back who were rolled and shaken very badly. His wife sustained a broken ankle. The Reliant Robin, a cheap version of transport for someone with only a motorcycle licence, it came with a dangerous reputation though.
Great landing skipper! Aspen- Pitkin County Airport is no joke. What the video doesn't quite show you because of the conditions....is how you are completely surrounded by terrain on all sides. No room for error.
In a weird way, this landing clip brought so much calm and serenity to me. Was it the whiteness of the snow, the calmness of the pilots, or the size of this airport? Probably all of the above lol. Regardless, thanks a mil for the clip.
Mazin Al-Sufyani it sure wasn’t the size of the airport because it is small. It’s also very sketchy because what you can’t see is that you’re below the tops of the mountains as you are approaching the airport. If you’re a passenger and you look out the side windows there’s several a few minutes where your looking at the side of a mountain and the airport itself is on the side of a mountain. Its just a very sketchy place.
Haha - I'm a Winter lover so I'll say it was the calm of the snow ❄️ at dusk/almost night. I'm sure it's tricky for the pilots, but a very beautiful scene to me for sure!
I had a similar experience landing in Chicago. Back in the early '90's, it was snowing to beat the band, around 20 degrees and winds were around 25 kts. gusting to 40 kts. It was also around 6:00 p.m, and already dark. We had just started our final when an announcement came over the radio and ACARS that all flights in and out of ORD were being temporarily suspended until further notice. Luckily, because we had started our final, we were given permission to land at our discretion. We were still able to use the ILS and also by keeping watch with what was going on visually, we were able to land without much difficulty. he main concern was sliding off the runway. As soon as we landed and were on the taxiway, the trucks were plowing and spreading salt. BTW, we didn't see the runway lights until the call out. It's like, "GD, there's gotta' be a runway somewhere down there."
Probably one of the all time great feelings is to see the approach lights just as you hit minimums. All those years ago I was doing this and I still felt the thrill as I saw the lights and heard "minimum" called out in the video. :58
So true. Mine always began saying, "it like painting a beautiful picture" tiny adjustments, lol When your 🦀 ing, into a 30mph crosswind with heavy rain. 😳🙄🥺😲😵
Nice approach! Looking forward to flying to ASE in a couple of days. I miss the CRJ a bit. Can't stand the 200s, much, but those 700s... now, that's a different story! Great video!
I worked for Aspen Airways in the 1980s when we were flying BAE 146's in there. Passengers would bitch and moan when we cancelled flights because the airport was below our minimums, especially when Rocky Mountain Airways was still getting in with their Dash 7s. Wish I could have run this video on the luxury chartered buses we loaded them onto to finish their trips. HINT: if you want to ski in Aspen, it has to snow sometime!
Dash 7’s & 8’s are noisy, cold & have few creature comforts. But if I ever needed to fly in severe inclement weather, would be my first choice. Maybe only superseded by a Twin Otter
Flew into Vail, CO 30 yrs ago in conditions like that, minimums, snowing, icy runway , 60+ deg of flaps. Me being a Private Pilot, I almost left skid marks on that runway haha. Wild landing! Awesome!
Wow you weren't kidding. That is right on minimums at the callout when lights become visible. One of the most challenging airports to land at in the world. Seriously sketchy place to test the best of the pilots. Besides FSX, I've only done it on a CRJ-200 simulator with a line check captain friend in the right seat who programmed similar weather...was sweating after roll out, and I floated it some unlike sticking it here, heh. Also I can see how the landing lights would be a serious light refraction issue in these conditions...the sim doesn't replicate that. Good stuff!
I have flown into Aspen twice, a friend was the pilot in command, in a King-air! Everyone has to have an appointment time to land. Visibility was perfect and it was still breath taking! One way in, mountains on your right going in and on your left coming out. We were on about a one mile final and he cleared a Citation for take off. The controller told the Citation to stay to the right, and us to the left. We passed each other at about 400 feet, and must have only been 200 feet apart. It seem like the mountain ledge was only about 500 feet from our right wing tip...... an experience!
I am so blown away by your skill. I am not a pilot... Yet. I will be going to pilot school in the next year and I can't wait!!! Ever since I was a very small child, I knew that some day I to would own and fly my own Gulfstream.
That was one of the nicest landings in bad weather with the airport close to mins.that I have had the pleasure of seeing. My compliments to the entire flight crew for an outstanding job! I had trouble seeing the taxiway when you exited the runway. Obviously, you are a very experienced flight crew to land at such a dangerous airport under extreme weather conditions!
I would imagine that the minimums that are being referred to here are the "secret approach minimums" that isn't available to the GA public, as all the approaches into ASPEN for Category C aircraft are around 2400 AGL.
Wow! Great approach, as I read through the comments, just wanted to say two things. First I saw the lights about 2-2.5 servings prior to minimums callout. Secondly, in those conditions I'd have flown the VASI low also, every foot of concrete down there should be available for stopping. Going around because of a rejected landing would be a last option in my book.
THAT WAS FUCKING IMPRESSIVE! FEELS GOOD TO AN AUTOMATED VOICE COUNT YOU DOWN RIGHT ON THE MARKS IN A SNOW STORM. DELICATE TOUCH WITH A LOT OF MACHINE. NICE WORK MAN
I was based in Aspen flying a Lear jet. Back then they had a curfew and we landed two minutes before the curfew...the tower operator tried to violate us. Just before landing I specifically asked ATC what time did they project us landing...it was two minutes before curfew. When the tower operator told us that we had landed after curfew...I told him to get the ATC tapes. After they got the ATC tapes they dropped the charges. I don't know if Aspen still has a curfew because this was in the 1980's. Blue Sky's.
Not sure where you are getting 1043' minimums from. The approach plate shows Cat C minimums as 10220-3(2400-3) with a 6.59 deg GS from the FAF to the MDA. I've always treated ASE as a VFR airport; if we don't have the runway environment in sight at the FAF, we're going around. May sound quite conservative, but Aspen is not a place to be complacent just because you've been there many times.
There is a special approach for approved operators. It's very hard to get for obvious reasons and required extensive aircraft testing for performance and crews undergo a detailed simulator training event for three days. This is not a fly by the seat of your pants approach. It's done with extreme precision.
Mark Lowe Conservative = Failed landing but safe flight. Aggressive = "successful" landing (Airplane rests on the ground) but dead passengers, smashed plane. Conservative pilots live longer. Nothing wrong with that.
robbie creer Not sure what makes you think I'm a smartass. All I was asking was where he got the minimums from. He answered it, and that was that. Just a simple question, that's all! Not trying to be a smartass. I'm all about being conservative in the cockpit; especially in mountainous terrain, and doubly so if there is inclement weather.
That approach was great. They had it down to 100 ft before they even hit the threshold...sure gave them a lot of runway...smooth landing too. Great clip!
Crappy weather but great landing. Your turnout off the runway looked like you were going to help them do a little snowplowing for them. I can't believe it wasn't cleared for you.
Minimums were called just few seconds before the lights became visible. But the pilot figured it would come into view in a few seconds, so a go around was not necessary. But that is not the way he was trained.
Mark S thank you for watching! As discussed in the comments and video info above, the camera couldn’t pick up the lights but our eyeballs could. This was a textbook approach to minimums and as low as one could go.
Landing in Aspen, in VFR condition can be challenging enough sometimes, much less in snow storm. You diffidently need terrain awareness going IFR in mountain Airports.
I am surprised the runway wasn't slick. Good breaking. Going into Aspen, Telluride, can be challenging in heavy IMC conditions. Great job, by the pilots !
Northbound on Highway 82 last night when the runway lights unexpectantly illuminated. We looked north and spotted a small aircraft in the distance. Eventually it turned on its landing light. Thank you, fh370, for posting this.
They may land but they aren't going to be taking off, rocks in those clouds, the normal takeoff means dodging a very big mountain directly in front of you. Nice landing
Actually, the takeoff minimums are 1 mile visibility and 400'. Landing is 2.75 miles and about 1000'. So if you can land you can takeoff wind permitting. Thanks for watching!
+flyinghigh370 Thanks for the added info, the reason I made the "they aren't going to take off" had less to do with the minimums and more to do with potential snow accumulation and worsening visibility. I grew up in CO and I'm familiar with snow storms. I would guess that airlines would try to find pilots to fly into winter resorts as well as aircraft with Class III certified. I recall leaving for Phoenix from Salt Lake City a few days after Thanksgiving during a snowstorm. We sat in the 737-300 as the snow got thicker and thicker on the wings, twice the green, foamy deicing fluid was sprayed on the aircraft after the snow was sweep off until the flight was cancelled and everyone had to sleep in the gate area given the state of roads. Surprisingly a TWA 727 took off as well as a few Delta 727s while we sat. The pilot mentioned that neither the pilots nor aircraft were category III and the aircraft leaving must have been. I've forgotten how the certification changed clearances.
I think what you are referring to is Category III which is a category of ILS (Instrument Landing System) where the vertical minima is zero and horizontal visibility varies according to which sub-category it is. It requires the aircraft to be fitted with autoland and the crews and airports must also be certified for it. Aspen does not have an ILS approach so the category is immaterial. The ability of the aircraft to depart is going to depend on the takeoff minima, the ability to keep the wings clean of ice buildup, the ability to keep the runway clear and the certification of the aircraft's navigation equipment to be able to track to the tolerances required to keep it out of the rocks during the climb out.
Okay, wait. The video is 0.28 second's in and I am prettified watching this as I lay in my bed relaxing! :-0!!! What on earth??? Let me try to get back to this paused video! Goodness! Yep, my heart sank as if touched down on that snowy runway. Phew!!! Fabulous pilots! Great job!!!
You think this is something then try landing a C-130 in Vietnam at a landing strip in the jungle at night with two 55 gal drums filled with jet fuel set ablaze for landing lights and your loaded down with high explosives while the VC take pop shots at you on approach. That will certainly get your attention.
i would say BOTH landings were "something". Then I would ask why one would have the need to "diminish" one in order to exalt the other??? But that is just me.
Nice landing gentlemen! Before entering the world of airline flying, I payed my dues with this type of flying in a Lear Jet out of John Wayne airport. Regardless of all the negative comments and criticism, landing here was always a challenge for me as my captain watched me execute that approach on many occasions. ILS approaches under these conditions absolutely make you earn your money. I miss those flying times as a corporate pilot. Our B777 does make my job a bit easier compared to what these smaller and fast jets made me do. Thanks for the video, flyinghigh370.
This sure brings back memories of flying in Germany and Alaska, many times we had even worse weather than this and also flying at night in the mountains with low ceilings and visibility made it even more stressful, thankfully I could land my helicopter at many places such as sport fields, parking lots even the median of an autoban.
Holy crap! That was scary as s*^%t! I've watched planes take off from Aspen on a perfectly beautiful summer day from the safety of my car, and I wouldn't have wanted to be onboard for that climb out. In a storm like that, if I want to ski, I think I'll just drive to Vail, thankyouverymuch. You made it look easy, though, I must say. Nice work.
The snowstorm is obviously there but you can't really see it because of the low visibility and the velocity of the aircraft in that case the snowflakes are just a near invisible blur to the eye and camera, Same thing for flying in the rain matter in fact the only way you can really tell you flying in a rain cloud is that you aircraft's windshield or canopy will be dripping wet
Safest piece of equipment in the cockpit; a well trained crew. Thank you
Safest piece of equipment ? Bad ass engineers and software coders. The CREW is the weakest link in that airplane. This isn't 1920 or 30 or 50 or 2000 even. Pilots will eventually 'go away'. Sad but true. Military planes have capabilities that would kill the pilot, for example. The engineering and capability of modern aircraft FAR exceeds that of the human in the cockpit. Not that far into the future you'll get on a private jet or airline, it will all be single pilot and eventually, zero pilot. That's a 'done deal'. Computers are better than humans in tasks like this. And...their judgement is 'consistantly' better. The engineering is FAR more impressive than the pilot. There won't even be air traffic controllers one day, again not too far into the future. This is one area of human endeavor that all along the line other than the the maintenance and service.....its100% unnecessary. And time will prove me right. Pilots are ...well not what pilots used to be for one, and they are simply ...not...necessary...or the ATC they talk to. Can you taxi an airplane ? BAM, 'you're a pilot'. That's what a pilot is now. An airplane driver. Even THAT can be automated. The BADASSES are the people who design and build those airplanes and all that goes into it and who's education FAR EXCEEDS those flying those planes. Pilots are bus drivers. Simple as that.
@@satexman2585 you either were bullied in high school or your pilot dad left your family when you were young LOL.
Seeing those runway lights peer through the clouds must be a great feeling.
He's lucky he got to see them so early lol
David Kamerath read the description he explains what he did although yes with rougher conditions may have been a different scenario
DJSbros Trust me!
There are lots of ground references the pilot will be well aware of
@@James-zu1ij those are irrelevant in IFR. But if you don’t have the runway in sight at the MDA with minimum acceptable visibility, you have to go missed and that’s annoying.
Skill is the ability to make something that's very difficult look easy. This is a highly-skilled pilot.
It is a CAT III landing so its mostly AUTO LAND.
@@nisargshukla This is a localizer approach. Aspen is one of the hardest places for a jet to land in the US. One way in, one way out, no autoland. Throw in snow and it is very tricky!
Modern avionics do their part.
You gotta be shittin’ me. At least two minutes MVFR below the clouds and you call this challenging? Would love to know when he finally disengaged the AP.
@@dianahewlett2520 at no point was that Marginal VFR, and he disconnected the autopilot at 53 seconds
Thanks for the comment. Aspen flying is unique and challenging, especially for the airlines. It's also some of the most professionally rewarding flying I've done.
My father is ifr certified and it always interested me.
Fantastic job. What you don't see in the video is the hill/mountain you fly over on final! Knowing its there and not seeing it gets the pucker factor up. Awesome! More... more!
My dear friends that was a Damn Fine Landing - hats off to that pilot -
My ass was puckered watching it on UA-cam
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Hudson River considering the visibility yes it was...
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You watch these, and even being just a sim-driver, you've got to recognize how ridiculously good these folks are.
I had to like this video simply because of the weather conditions he was flying in. I've flown localizer approaches before but never in the mountains. And I have only had to do maybe a handful of instrument approaches in my life. To the pilot, you get a big BRAVO from me. You are good.
Great landing. I used to work for Aspen Airways back when we were still flying BAE-146s into ASE. Those approaches to minimums always produced some white-knuckle passengers, especially when we had to miss the approach and go back to Stapleton (which was often itself close to minimums in the winter.)
the turn off the runway was the craziest part!
That must feel weird not seeing the taxiway
Uh I don't know, I guess we take a left here somewhere, this spot looks as good as any.
Great stabilized approach and landing, Right down the center line and very smooth.
Don't listen to Microsoft simulator flyers. They never leave the cave and always have a lot to say. May all your flights be great !
Bravo! I've experienced many landings under ideal conditions that were nowhere near as smooth & beautiful as this one! 👍
thx for taking us along for the ride... nice approach and landing...
--Mike
That was beautiful!! I'm such a rubbish flyer so have been watching difficult landings and the like in prep for a trip later this year... Vids like this are helping so much, you guys are amazing, it really is helping to settle the nerves! I'm actually starting to enjoy it to the point where I want to get up and give it a go!
I wonder if pilots every drive home from the airport and forget they aren't supposed to straddle the middle line?
No.
We also don’t try and steer with our feet.
Transitioning between different vehicle types is completely natural.
It’s a temptation if the centerline is lit.
Maybe if they drive a Reliant Robin...
@@ZorbaTheDutch My father in law had a Reliant Robin many years ago He lived up in Lincolnshire and one winter they had tons of snow. Although he didn't go to in the Reliant during this winter, his son did. Many of the smaller roads hadn't been cleared and this resulted in two deep ruts being formed on these side roads. This wasn't a problem for a 4 wheeled car but the Reliant could only be driven with the front wheel in one of the ruts, this meant a difficult and unnerving drive, crabbing along at about 45 degrees from straight. At one of the big agricultural shows my father in law managed to roll the Robin in one of the temporary car parks on an adverse camber, it rolled over an ended up back on all 3 wheels much to the amusement for onlookers, not so good for the occupants who weren't strapped in. A friend of mine Mike had a van version, he had loosely place two supplemental seats in the back, these were not fastened to the bodywork. While he was on holiday with his wife and parents, he managed to roll it on a road at reasonable speed. This resulted in a few injuries to the people in the back who were rolled and shaken very badly. His wife sustained a broken ankle. The Reliant Robin, a cheap version of transport for someone with only a motorcycle licence, it came with a dangerous reputation though.
@@johnwoody9505 Thanks, great stories! Makes you wonder if it deserves to be called a 'car'.
I have seen a million approach and landings, this one is probably my favorite, the view is just incredible.
Javier D thank you! It is a challenging place to fly but rewarding. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Great landing skipper! Aspen- Pitkin County Airport is no joke. What the video doesn't quite show you because of the conditions....is how you are completely surrounded by terrain on all sides. No room for error.
Whew. I'm no hero, I'd have diverted to Cabo San Lucas :D
Sorry, truly you are hero because of your courage
Pina coladas!
In a weird way, this landing clip brought so much calm and serenity to me. Was it the whiteness of the snow, the calmness of the pilots, or the size of this airport? Probably all of the above lol.
Regardless, thanks a mil for the clip.
Mazin Al-Sufyani it sure wasn’t the size of the airport because it is small. It’s also very sketchy because what you can’t see is that you’re below the tops of the mountains as you are approaching the airport. If you’re a passenger and you look out the side windows there’s several a few minutes where your looking at the side of a mountain and the airport itself is on the side of a mountain. Its just a very sketchy place.
Haha - I'm a Winter lover so I'll say it was the calm of the snow ❄️ at dusk/almost night. I'm sure it's tricky for the pilots, but a very beautiful scene to me for sure!
runway lights appear. literally one second later: MINIMUMS
That's about as close as it gets.
Awesome! Just love a good low-vis approach video!
I had a similar experience landing in Chicago. Back in the early '90's, it was snowing to beat the band, around 20 degrees and winds were around 25 kts. gusting to 40 kts. It was also around 6:00 p.m, and already dark. We had just started our final when an announcement came over the radio and ACARS that all flights in and out of ORD were being temporarily suspended until further notice. Luckily, because we had started our final, we were given permission to land at our discretion. We were still able to use the ILS and also by keeping watch with what was going on visually, we were able to land without much difficulty. he main concern was sliding off the runway. As soon as we landed and were on the taxiway, the trucks were plowing and spreading salt. BTW, we didn't see the runway lights until the call out. It's like, "GD, there's gotta' be a runway somewhere down there."
Wow, that was just about as smooth of an approach and landing as a sunny day in July! Good job, crew!
Probably one of the all time great feelings is to see the approach lights just as you hit minimums. All those years ago I was doing this and I still felt the thrill as I saw the lights and heard "minimum" called out in the video. :58
As my flight instructor once told me - "the centerline is your friend."
Don´t women say the same at the beginning of a relationship?
@@Jarek_73 OP 😜👌
I love watching these approaches and seeing if I can do them in MSFS. Making it look easy as always.
i live here , it is an awesome sight to see these planes daily , taking off and landing !
Wow. Perfect landing in such adverse conditions. Full marks to the pilot, he made landing look so easy.
You know this is a hard approach when you are in training and the instructor says..."Lets see if you can do this one" in the full motion simulator.
+steveo1kinevo Hey, i found you. xD
i was just watching steveo
...and then he unzips his pants
So true.
Mine always began saying, "it like painting a beautiful picture" tiny adjustments, lol
When your 🦀 ing, into a 30mph crosswind with heavy rain.
😳🙄🥺😲😵
IFRall the way.
Nice approach! Looking forward to flying to ASE in a couple of days. I miss the CRJ a bit. Can't stand the 200s, much, but those 700s... now, that's a different story! Great video!
I have seen this video few years ago and it’s still my favorite.
Did that same approach two weeks ago, ALWAYS an interesting task.
I worked for Aspen Airways in the 1980s when we were flying BAE 146's in there. Passengers would bitch and moan when we cancelled flights because the airport was below our minimums, especially when Rocky Mountain Airways was still getting in with their Dash 7s. Wish I could have run this video on the luxury chartered buses we loaded them onto to finish their trips. HINT: if you want to ski in Aspen, it has to snow sometime!
Dash 7’s & 8’s are noisy, cold & have few creature comforts. But if I ever needed to fly in severe inclement weather, would be my first choice. Maybe only superseded by a Twin Otter
Flew into Vail, CO 30 yrs ago in conditions like that, minimums, snowing, icy runway , 60+ deg of flaps. Me being a Private Pilot, I almost left skid marks on that runway haha. Wild landing! Awesome!
"Flying is the second greatest thrill to mankind. Landing is the first!"
dpm1982 bullit trains are better.
@@ryanwilliams560 not at all, no fun in those
Wow you weren't kidding. That is right on minimums at the callout when lights become visible. One of the most challenging airports to land at in the world. Seriously sketchy place to test the best of the pilots. Besides FSX, I've only done it on a CRJ-200 simulator with a line check captain friend in the right seat who programmed similar weather...was sweating after roll out, and I floated it some unlike sticking it here, heh. Also I can see how the landing lights would be a serious light refraction issue in these conditions...the sim doesn't replicate that.
Good stuff!
*WOW!!* *HAT'S OFF TO THESE INCREDIBLE PILOTS...THEY ARE AMAZING!!*
I have flown into Aspen twice, a friend was the pilot in command, in a King-air! Everyone has to have an appointment time to land. Visibility was perfect and it was still breath taking! One way in, mountains on your right going in and on your left coming out. We were on about a one mile final and he cleared a Citation for take off. The controller told the Citation to stay to the right, and us to the left. We passed each other at about 400 feet, and must have only been 200 feet apart. It seem like the mountain ledge was only about 500 feet from our right wing tip...... an experience!
Wow that's fantastic, nice job. I've re-watched it about 5 more times.
I am so blown away by your skill. I am not a pilot... Yet. I will be going to pilot school in the next year and I can't wait!!! Ever since I was a very small child, I knew that some day I to would own and fly my own Gulfstream.
That was one of the nicest landings in bad weather with the airport close to mins.that I have had the pleasure of seeing. My compliments to the entire flight crew for an outstanding job! I had trouble seeing the taxiway when you exited the runway. Obviously, you are a very experienced flight crew to land at such a dangerous airport under extreme weather conditions!
James Wikstrom thank you for the kind words sir!
I would imagine that the minimums that are being referred to here are the "secret approach minimums" that isn't available to the GA public, as all the approaches into ASPEN for Category C aircraft are around 2400 AGL.
That was insane and you still buttered the landing. Nice job!
Wow!
Great approach, as I read through the comments, just wanted to say two things.
First I saw the lights about 2-2.5 servings prior to minimums callout.
Secondly, in those conditions I'd have flown the VASI low also, every foot of concrete down there should be available for stopping.
Going around because of a rejected landing would be a last option in my book.
I used to fly into Aspen in the winter of '72/'73 for Rocky Mountain Airways! Sure didn't have those wonderful approach lights then!
wow could that be any better? you were just perfectly straight. great job pilot
What a smooth landing! Awesome video. Missing Aspen so much!!
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Amazing how they can do that in that kind of weather. Bravo
Thank God for ILS.....
THAT WAS FUCKING IMPRESSIVE! FEELS GOOD TO AN AUTOMATED VOICE COUNT YOU DOWN RIGHT ON THE MARKS IN A SNOW STORM. DELICATE TOUCH WITH A LOT OF MACHINE. NICE WORK MAN
That was a perfect landing if I've ever seen one, right on the money. Loved it
Weather was better then I was expecting. Great concentration and landing.
Thats amazing they made it look easy, cool & calm the whole way in.
I was based in Aspen flying a Lear jet. Back then they had a curfew and we landed two minutes before the curfew...the tower operator tried to violate us. Just before landing I specifically asked ATC what time did they project us landing...it was two minutes before curfew. When the tower operator told us that we had landed after curfew...I told him to get the ATC tapes. After they got the ATC tapes they dropped the charges. I don't know if Aspen still has a curfew because this was in the 1980's. Blue Sky's.
That sounds like something they’d do. And they still have a curfew. Thanks for the comment!
Wow... great video! I love ASE! Nice landing too!
I'm so glad you made it. I watch a charter plane crash on this very approach and it was just horrible.
Not sure where you are getting 1043' minimums from. The approach plate shows Cat C minimums as 10220-3(2400-3) with a 6.59 deg GS from the FAF to the MDA. I've always treated ASE as a VFR airport; if we don't have the runway environment in sight at the FAF, we're going around. May sound quite conservative, but Aspen is not a place to be complacent just because you've been there many times.
There is a special approach for approved operators. It's very hard to get for obvious reasons and required extensive aircraft testing for performance and crews undergo a detailed simulator training event for three days. This is not a fly by the seat of your pants approach. It's done with extreme precision.
Mark Lowe i dont know what u are talking about but u sir are one smartass
Mark Lowe Conservative = Failed landing but safe flight. Aggressive = "successful" landing (Airplane rests on the ground) but dead passengers, smashed plane. Conservative pilots live longer. Nothing wrong with that.
robbie creer
Not sure what makes you think I'm a smartass. All I was asking was where he got the minimums from. He answered it, and that was that. Just a simple question, that's all! Not trying to be a smartass. I'm all about being conservative in the cockpit; especially in mountainous terrain, and doubly so if there is inclement weather.
geez i was just complimenting you...
Man, I have only tried this in the simulator. Great airmanship. Much respect.
That’s an intense approach even when you can actually see!
I was testing my on-going DJ mix project and decided to watch your landing in the background;it sounded better with your video.Great job!
Amazing how fast he dropped altitude & made that landing!
That approach was great. They had it down to 100 ft before they even hit the threshold...sure gave them a lot of runway...smooth landing too. Great clip!
Crappy weather but great landing. Your turnout off the runway looked like you were going to help them do a little snowplowing for them. I can't believe it wasn't cleared for you.
It must be a great relief to pilot,who was flying through darkness,to see the landing lights
Minimums were called just few seconds before the lights became visible. But the pilot figured it would come into view in a few seconds, so a go around was not necessary. But that is not the way he was trained.
Mark S thank you for watching! As discussed in the comments and video info above, the camera couldn’t pick up the lights but our eyeballs could. This was a textbook approach to minimums and as low as one could go.
Two types of people we should be thankful for....doctors and pilots.
Jeffrey Lombardo. and truckdrivers,if u have it,a truck brought it.
Yes, I will amend my comment. Include Nurses on that list.
and cops, love em or hate em, we need em...
and me
Don't forget turnips!
Nice landing,Capt....Very smooth....👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👌👌😊😊😊
Very foggy looking , and not easy to see, good landing.Looks like a big cross.
Now that there was a beautiful thing.....
Landing in Aspen, in VFR condition can be challenging enough sometimes, much less in snow storm. You diffidently need terrain awareness going IFR in mountain Airports.
beautiful landing
They made it look easy. Nice work.
Now I know why a pilots job is so stressful! But even in those conditions, that was a great landing. Very skilled pilots.
BRAVO! Their wasn't even a bump! Great going! Great pilot!
I love smooth landings, and I let the pilots know...😎
Very smooth landing, good job Pilot!
great vid, great landing.
Great tip in the description! Beautiful landing. Can’t wait to land here in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020!
Smooth landing I have seen... :)
Straight butter on the landing. Cheers!
Nice landing
This pilot has nerves of steel. Very good landing.
I am surprised the runway wasn't slick. Good breaking. Going into Aspen, Telluride, can be challenging in heavy IMC conditions. Great job, by the pilots !
FUUUCKKK that! I'm diverting to Rifle lol!!!!
Smooth as silk, where is the problem?
that's some slick flying there Captain, nice one........
Great pilot!!! I would entrust my life on you...
Northbound on Highway 82 last night when the runway lights unexpectantly illuminated.
We looked north and spotted a small aircraft in the distance. Eventually it turned on its landing light.
Thank you, fh370, for posting this.
Very interesting. Thanks for the upload.
They may land but they aren't going to be taking off, rocks in those clouds, the normal takeoff means dodging a very big mountain directly in front of you. Nice landing
Actually, the takeoff minimums are 1 mile visibility and 400'. Landing is 2.75 miles and about 1000'. So if you can land you can takeoff wind permitting. Thanks for watching!
+flyinghigh370 Thanks for the added info, the reason I made the "they aren't going to take off" had less to do with the minimums and more to do with potential snow accumulation and worsening visibility. I grew up in CO and I'm familiar with snow storms. I would guess that airlines would try to find pilots to fly into winter resorts as well as aircraft with Class III certified. I recall leaving for Phoenix from Salt Lake City a few days after Thanksgiving during a snowstorm. We sat in the 737-300 as the snow got thicker and thicker on the wings, twice the green, foamy deicing fluid was sprayed on the aircraft after the snow was sweep off until the flight was cancelled and everyone had to sleep in the gate area given the state of roads. Surprisingly a TWA 727 took off as well as a few Delta 727s while we sat. The pilot mentioned that neither the pilots nor aircraft were category III and the aircraft leaving must have been. I've forgotten how the certification changed clearances.
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I think what you are referring to is Category III which is a category of ILS (Instrument Landing System) where the vertical minima is zero and horizontal visibility varies according to which sub-category it is. It requires the aircraft to be fitted with autoland and the crews and airports must also be certified for it.
Aspen does not have an ILS approach so the category is immaterial. The ability of the aircraft to depart is going to depend on the takeoff minima, the ability to keep the wings clean of ice buildup, the ability to keep the runway clear and the certification of the aircraft's navigation equipment to be able to track to the tolerances required to keep it out of the rocks during the climb out.
Okay, wait. The video is 0.28 second's in and I am prettified watching this as I lay in my bed relaxing! :-0!!! What on earth??? Let me try to get back to this paused video! Goodness! Yep, my heart sank as if touched down on that snowy runway. Phew!!! Fabulous pilots! Great job!!!
Thank you for watching!
Great job!! I need couple of those runway lights on my jeep
You think this is something then try landing a C-130 in Vietnam at a landing strip in the jungle at night with two 55 gal drums filled with jet fuel set ablaze for landing lights and your loaded down with high explosives while the VC take pop shots at you on approach. That will certainly get your attention.
What's that smell? Bullshit?
Just pay attention and learn something son...........
No kidding!
i would say BOTH landings were "something". Then I would ask why one would have the need to "diminish" one in order to exalt the other??? But that is just me.
Eugene Brown .....that’s pressure. I thought I had it bad when my wife would not shut up .! Thank you Mr Brown
Nice landing gentlemen! Before entering the world of airline flying, I payed my dues with this type of flying in a Lear Jet out of John Wayne airport. Regardless of all the negative comments and criticism, landing here was always a challenge for me as my captain watched me execute that approach on many occasions. ILS approaches under these conditions absolutely make you earn your money. I miss those flying times as a corporate pilot. Our B777 does make my job a bit easier compared to what these smaller and fast jets made me do. Thanks for the video, flyinghigh370.
Thanks for the kind words. It's a fun challenge flying into John Wayne SNA! It is rewarding when a plan comes together like that.
Perfection.
Saw this looking up the 'snowstorm' achievement in Audio Surf. Awesome video!
Brilliant Video! Need more like this! Bad weather brings out the skill and training!
Theres always room for improvement... how can you improve this landing?
This sure brings back memories of flying in Germany and Alaska, many times we had even worse weather than this and also flying at night in the mountains with low ceilings and visibility made it even more stressful, thankfully I could land my helicopter at many places such as sport fields, parking lots even the median of an autoban.
Holy crap! That was scary as s*^%t!
I've watched planes take off from Aspen on a perfectly beautiful summer day from the safety of my car, and I wouldn't have wanted to be onboard for that climb out.
In a storm like that, if I want to ski, I think I'll just drive to Vail, thankyouverymuch.
You made it look easy, though, I must say. Nice work.
Snow storm? where? I did not see it, there was only Snow on the ground.
The snowstorm is obviously there but you can't really see it because of the low visibility and the velocity of the aircraft in that case the snowflakes are just a near invisible blur to the eye and camera, Same thing for flying in the rain matter in fact the only way you can really tell you flying in a rain cloud is that you aircraft's windshield or canopy will be dripping wet
The visibility was pretty good for a "snowstorm."
Several tough things the pilot had to consider and once on the ground - still have to deal with ice on the runway. This was impressive.
Well done. Wonderfully flown.