Nice lookin truck. Unfortunate they raised the msrp like crazy. 4th gen SR5 4x4 msrp similarly priced to a 3rd gen trd off road msrp. $44k for that sr5 is just ridiculous.
A 4 Cylinder truck that is far better than the outgoing 3.5 V6. The only thing the V6 has going for it was reliability. It was a dog otherwise. The 4.0 V6 was far better imo. But yes, 56k is crazy no matter how much you look at it.
The 4 cylinder is way better than that old 3.5 V6, that engine was reliable but it was so underpowered, torque with that engine was basically nonexistent.
I get that the truck is expensive but I don't understand why everyone is acting like its only Toyota, like the Canyon, Silverado etc are equally just as expensive. That is what happens when your truck is brand new from thr ground up. The Frontier can afford to be cheap because it is just a revised version of the same truck they'd been selling for years
Nice to hear decent things about 4G Tacoma. My 3G 2019 was the worst vehicle I’ve ever owned. Way too much shop time and QDR issues. Never again. Hopefully rattling doesn’t make it to production on these newer ones. That was one of many issues my 2019 experienced - creaks, rattles and pops from the dash plastics. It screamed CHEAP. My 2019 is no longer my problem. I told those clowns that I smelled fuel at times hood up and at idle almost 2 years ago. Guess what? Today I receive a letter in the mail from Toyota indicating they have extended the high pressure fuel pump warranty due to my exact described issue. Toyota blew me off making me think I was a crazy person.
I have driven 3 of these and never noticed the headlight adjustment switch, that is an actually amazing feature to be able to adjust them on the fly. Maybe it is only on lower trims if upper trims have adaptive headlights maybe?
Great vid! Does the TSS 3.0's lane tracing assist reliable keep the vehicle centered when going around curves on the freeways? Which vehicle/brand has the best lane centering driver assistance tech? Thanks!
I think Toyota went off the deep end with this. Removing doors on an extended cab is something quite literally nobody asked for. Removing the seats I understand, the doors? C'mon. The price is insane. The competition all makes more power, is more efficient, practical and a lot cheaper. All the vehicles on this platform are pretty heavy, inefficient and have some weird compromises such as tiny fuel tanks and less articulation than before. Paying more than a full size truck is wild especially when it's this gutless and inefficient.
Bean counters and the truck is built on TNGA-F same as Tundra, Landcruiser, 4Runner, LX, etc. Which means compromises in many areas to make all these vehicles mount on the same architecture.
I have a 2024 trd off road trim about to be delivered, got it without markup for 50k even out the door. Heard some people are paying 45+ for an sr5 with options. Doesn’t make sense. I’m 3 trim levels above for same price.
@@TheSpruceGoose just another person that’s hates everything new, given the new manufacturing processes involved in this vehicle, from the laser welded fully boxed frame to the commercially duty tested turbo and 4 cylinder that’s been in numerous reliable Toyota vehicles already. New upgraded interior and actual steering feel. A seat position that’s not a hippie couch like 3rd gen. Useable low range torque now at 1700 rpm. If you take care of the non hybrid variant this truck will last just as long as 3rd gens and hold there value the same. I’m willing to pay 12k more than the 3rd gen for all that. (With options in that price too)
In my area dealers have SR5 with the SR5 upgrade package which sits at just under $45k or either the TRD Sport @ $30 cheaper than that or TRD OR at just over $45k. Both TRD trims have the 14” screen but other than that no options/upgrades. Essentially SR5 with some features like sliding back glass, front sensors, trailer brake controller, JBL or one of the TRD trims at base with nothing extra for about the same price give or take a couple hundred $$
Here we are in June, and Toyota is just now starting to trickle out a few Xtracabs. At this point, I'm willing to wait for 2025. It sucks that they don't offer it in higher trims such as the Sport of Off Road. The SR5 is as good as it gets if you need a 4WD. The Prerunner looks nice, but is useless in snow country.
Man, warning chimes are so annoying and the infamous Toyota beep is no exception, hopefully that can at least be turned off especially when most vehicles nowadays automatically lock after a couple of minutes just in case you forget, so no need at least in my eyes for the annoying chimes. The dash chime should only do so if necessary to convey a warning to something. Non the less, I prefer a natural aspirated V6 or higher just in smoothness alone. I get the turbo charged motors on 4 cylinders but you can't get that same smoothness with a higher displacement and more cylinders especially in the exhaust note dept. Toyota and Honda motors are extremely noisy but seem to last a long time, you'd think they could make engines more silent as with modern diesels compared to older ones. I think vehicles nowadays sound more like diesels with all the clacking they do at idle. Bring back the whisper quite running motors of old. But I digress. Thanks for the night drive review and breaking in your protege 🤙🏼🇺🇲
It’s loud because it has direct injection and the injectors clatter when they are turned on. I personally like the engines louder on trucks. Quiet engines don’t give me a good impression. They sound weak and I like the trucks to sound strong.
I like the Frontier Pro4X better.. - and at the same price. But it's cool... I assume there will be first year issues - including some turbo issues... we will see!
Love a night drive and bonus Topher. Can confirm that modern infotainment systems are garbo. Digital dashboards are getting out-of-hand too. But those will be gone soon if Elon gets his way.
people like driving a manual transmission because you become part of the truck. They like to DRIVE instead of being driven. Todays automatics are so complicated they have a mind of their own. Drive one, you drive them all. Like an electric car. Close your eyes and you have NO idea what you are driving.
Cool truck, PLEASE lower the headlights all the way down. I’m sick of getting blinded by headlights these days and that would be our little drop in the pond.
lack of rear doors for 44K is abysmal and absolutely ridiculous. It IS attractive but its complicated with that turbo.. cant wait to see what happens when people at work romp on it and never check the oil. I highly doubt these will go 200K without repair like the old ones did ( and by old ones I mean 2015 and below.. )
The 3.5 was not a good engine, it was underpowered, not efficient not refined you had to rev the crap out of it to get torque, this turbocharged 4 cylinder is much better, it's much more powerful and efficient, it makes 317lbft of torque at just 1800RPM, the 3.5L made just 265lbft all the way up at 4500RPM.
Interior refresh was needed, looks great. Just really not a fan of the front end, especially the headlights, reminds me of the ugly new BMWs. Other than that, and the price of course, it's a great vehicle. edit: actually, after seeing more photos online the front end is not too bad, but the rear end is really ugly.
I'll take my 2017 V6 TRD off-road double cab Tacoma any day over this bare bones four banger, turbocharged or not! Have you ever tried a tow with a four cylinder? I don't care what it looks like, a truck with a four cylinder motor is not a truck at all! 👎
I disagree. Toyota has historically made very good 4cyls. The small engines don’t necessarily mean the truck will suffer. Toyota uses the 2.7 in the Hilux and those are rated for 5000lbs towing.
@@callofdutyguy9 I had a hard enough time settling for a six cylinder, coming down from an eight. A four-cylinder pickup is still out of the question, no matter how much they dress it up. Despite the specifications which I question, my six is far more powerful than your four. Toyota only cares about emission compliance, not customer quality anymore. That's what you're buying dude! 😬
Got my Colorado LT with WAY better features and performance 44k sticker for 39k from the dealer. Toyota is ridiculous overpriced, and if you lease they dont even include GAP insurance so add another 10% to the cost. Not worth it at all.
My shit is 4 door, has climate control, Auto 4WD, Bedliner, bigger screen, not to mention it drives way smoother and has more power. 2.7L 310 hp 390ft/lb of torque (which can be upgraded to 430 for 400$ at the dealer)
Love a good Substitute Topher crossover
Nice lookin truck. Unfortunate they raised the msrp like crazy. 4th gen SR5 4x4 msrp similarly priced to a 3rd gen trd off road msrp. $44k for that sr5 is just ridiculous.
Not letting go of my 2013 SR5 Tacoma that’s for sure
44k for an extra cab is criminal 💀
Toyota has lost their minds on these new gen vehicle pricing
People will buy them anyways just because its a toyota even if they're a ripoff
Yep. I’ll never pay it
Disgraceful
@@Mobadventures That is right on par with every midsize truck except for the Frontier
Nice but expensive truck welcome to 2024
I would love one of these, if it was like 10k cheaper.
Seeing this parking garage brought back memories 😂 it’s so weird to see a brand new pov drive filmed there for some reason 😅
Ill keep my 2019 Nissan Frontier V6 6 speed crew cab thank you
$39k SR5 what an absolute shame.
lmao what isn't in this economy
Inflation is hard on all of us.
vote Biden
My dealer just had a Silverado WT with an MSRP of 53k so 39k for a decently equipped Tacoma isn't that bad. Everything's expensive.
@@doit2win#bidenomics
I seen online the prices go between $48k to $56k. That crazy for a 4 cylinder truck.
A 4 Cylinder truck that is far better than the outgoing 3.5 V6. The only thing the V6 has going for it was reliability. It was a dog otherwise. The 4.0 V6 was far better imo. But yes, 56k is crazy no matter how much you look at it.
The 4 cylinder is way better than that old 3.5 V6, that engine was reliable but it was so underpowered, torque with that engine was basically nonexistent.
Just bought my first ever Toyota it’s a 2023 SR5 Tacoma 4X4 V6 best little truck I’ve ever owned. Not interested in a 4 cylinder.
I get that the truck is expensive but I don't understand why everyone is acting like its only Toyota, like the Canyon, Silverado etc are equally just as expensive. That is what happens when your truck is brand new from thr ground up. The Frontier can afford to be cheap because it is just a revised version of the same truck they'd been selling for years
Definitely gonna keep my 23 v6 tacoma.
I have. 2016 MT and will keep that till it dies.
Nice to hear decent things about 4G Tacoma. My 3G 2019 was the worst vehicle I’ve ever owned. Way too much shop time and QDR issues. Never again. Hopefully rattling doesn’t make it to production on these newer ones. That was one of many issues my 2019 experienced - creaks, rattles and pops from the dash plastics. It screamed CHEAP. My 2019 is no longer my problem.
I told those clowns that I smelled fuel at times hood up and at idle almost 2 years ago. Guess what? Today I receive a letter in the mail from Toyota indicating they have extended the high pressure fuel pump warranty due to my exact described issue. Toyota blew me off making me think I was a crazy person.
You should find a manual 2008 Acura TL Type-S to review
The only thing people worry about is the engine, I guess time will prove.
Double cab is the only version I would get
Substitute Topher looks like Wheels from Degrassi
SR5. Xtra cab. Manual seats. Leaf springs. Small screen. 44K. Toyota has lost their mind
Every year the price goes up $100-$400 for every toyota since the 1996 rav 4. This is a over $40k truck
I have driven 3 of these and never noticed the headlight adjustment switch, that is an actually amazing feature to be able to adjust them on the fly.
Maybe it is only on lower trims if upper trims have adaptive headlights maybe?
Topher going off on the night ride 🤣😭😆
Great vid! Does the TSS 3.0's lane tracing assist reliable keep the vehicle centered when going around curves on the freeways?
Which vehicle/brand has the best lane centering driver assistance tech? Thanks!
I think Toyota went off the deep end with this. Removing doors on an extended cab is something quite literally nobody asked for. Removing the seats I understand, the doors? C'mon. The price is insane. The competition all makes more power, is more efficient, practical and a lot cheaper.
All the vehicles on this platform are pretty heavy, inefficient and have some weird compromises such as tiny fuel tanks and less articulation than before. Paying more than a full size truck is wild especially when it's this gutless and inefficient.
Bean counters and the truck is built on TNGA-F same as Tundra, Landcruiser, 4Runner, LX, etc. Which means compromises in many areas to make all these vehicles mount on the same architecture.
I have a 2024 trd off road trim about to be delivered, got it without markup for 50k even out the door. Heard some people are paying 45+ for an sr5 with options. Doesn’t make sense. I’m 3 trim levels above for same price.
Congrats you overpaid too.
@@TheSpruceGoose just another person that’s hates everything new, given the new manufacturing processes involved in this vehicle, from the laser welded fully boxed frame to the commercially duty tested turbo and 4 cylinder that’s been in numerous reliable Toyota vehicles already. New upgraded interior and actual steering feel. A seat position that’s not a hippie couch like 3rd gen. Useable low range torque now at 1700 rpm. If you take care of the non hybrid variant this truck will last just as long as 3rd gens and hold there value the same. I’m willing to pay 12k more than the 3rd gen for all that. (With options in that price too)
In my area dealers have SR5 with the SR5 upgrade package which sits at just under $45k or either the TRD Sport @ $30 cheaper than that or TRD OR at just over $45k. Both TRD trims have the 14” screen but other than that no options/upgrades.
Essentially SR5 with some features like sliding back glass, front sensors, trailer brake controller, JBL or one of the TRD trims at base with nothing extra for about the same price give or take a couple hundred $$
Here we are in June, and Toyota is just now starting to trickle out a few Xtracabs. At this point, I'm willing to wait for 2025. It sucks that they don't offer it in higher trims such as the Sport of Off Road. The SR5 is as good as it gets if you need a 4WD. The Prerunner looks nice, but is useless in snow country.
I will have to keep driving my 2006 Yukon Denali for another 10 years if the prices keep going up like this. A new Escalade is over 100 large.
Access cab in the 2023 is fantastic.. I get the other upgrades but the xtracab isn't one of them..
Man, warning chimes are so annoying and the infamous Toyota beep is no exception, hopefully that can at least be turned off especially when most vehicles nowadays automatically lock after a couple of minutes just in case you forget, so no need at least in my eyes for the annoying chimes. The dash chime should only do so if necessary to convey a warning to something. Non the less, I prefer a natural aspirated V6 or higher just in smoothness alone. I get the turbo charged motors on 4 cylinders but you can't get that same smoothness with a higher displacement and more cylinders especially in the exhaust note dept. Toyota and Honda motors are extremely noisy but seem to last a long time, you'd think they could make engines more silent as with modern diesels compared to older ones. I think vehicles nowadays sound more like diesels with all the clacking they do at idle. Bring back the whisper quite running motors of old. But I digress. Thanks for the night drive review and breaking in your protege 🤙🏼🇺🇲
The loud idle is likely due to fight pressure fuel pump for direct injection. Luckily this engine has both, direct and multi-port injection modes.
It’s loud because it has direct injection and the injectors clatter when they are turned on. I personally like the engines louder on trucks. Quiet engines don’t give me a good impression. They sound weak and I like the trucks to sound strong.
I like the Frontier Pro4X better.. - and at the same price. But it's cool... I assume there will be first year issues - including some turbo issues... we will see!
Nice!
Did those little fog lights actually make a visible difference?
Substitute Topher 👍
I’d like the new Tacoma but I wish it came in a manual transmission in the access cab but Toyota corporate, discontinuing what a shame
Next I want to see the limited trim level in supersonic red ofc❤
When are you going to get hold of a mitsubishi mirage the car to slow for you? ;)
Please do a night drive with the Venza!
7:28 did they increase the capacity of the base? All other info suggests it has the least
How bad is the wind noise? Im guessing bad
Love a night drive and bonus Topher. Can confirm that modern infotainment systems are garbo. Digital dashboards are getting out-of-hand too. But those will be gone soon if Elon gets his way.
It's crazy how you can get a new Tundra for the price of the Tacoma now. Such a shame
It's a nice truck, this new Tacoma. But it's not 39,000 USD+ nice. Not at all.
people like driving a manual transmission because you become part of the truck. They like to DRIVE instead of being driven. Todays automatics are so complicated they have a mind of their own. Drive one, you drive them all. Like an electric car. Close your eyes and you have NO idea what you are driving.
Jeep Gladiator still has a manual so Tacoma isn't the only one in the segment.
Jeep dodge chrysler fiat junkkk 🗑
Don’t like that it has a 2.4 in it but better gas mileage then the Colorado
Cool truck, PLEASE lower the headlights all the way down. I’m sick of getting blinded by headlights these days and that would be our little drop in the pond.
lack of rear doors for 44K is abysmal and absolutely ridiculous. It IS attractive but its complicated with that turbo.. cant wait to see what happens when people at work romp on it and never check the oil. I highly doubt these will go 200K without repair like the old ones did ( and by old ones I mean 2015 and below.. )
Imagine asking over 40K for 4cyl trash xD
I thought the 3.5 didn’t sound good, but this is just flat out bad
The 3.5 was not a good engine, it was underpowered, not efficient not refined you had to rev the crap out of it to get torque, this turbocharged 4 cylinder is much better, it's much more powerful and efficient, it makes 317lbft of torque at just 1800RPM, the 3.5L made just 265lbft all the way up at 4500RPM.
@@ZoomZoom356 trust me I know. I own one
Wait the tundra starts at $39k wtf
Interior refresh was needed, looks great. Just really not a fan of the front end, especially the headlights, reminds me of the ugly new BMWs. Other than that, and the price of course, it's a great vehicle.
edit: actually, after seeing more photos online the front end is not too bad, but the rear end is really ugly.
That welcome chime is horrible
Look nice the car
Toyota dropped the V6
Wonder if the transmission is like hunting like the 3rd Gen.
Thats a expensive truck thats for sure... Like dang
If you are going to pay all that coin for this one, better if you buy the 4 double cabin
Some people don't want four doors not because it's cheaper
That's a v6
I'll take my 2017 V6 TRD off-road double cab Tacoma any day over this bare bones four banger, turbocharged or not!
Have you ever tried a tow with a four cylinder? I don't care what it looks like, a truck with a four cylinder motor is not a truck at all! 👎
I disagree. Toyota has historically made very good 4cyls. The small engines don’t necessarily mean the truck will suffer. Toyota uses the 2.7 in the Hilux and those are rated for 5000lbs towing.
@@callofdutyguy9
I had a hard enough time settling for a six cylinder, coming down from an eight. A four-cylinder pickup is still out of the question, no matter how much they dress it up. Despite the specifications which I question, my six is far more powerful than your four. Toyota only cares about emission compliance, not customer quality anymore. That's what you're buying dude! 😬
first
Toyota should go back to the V6 NON-TURBO engine.
Turbo engines are a bottomless money pit waiting to happen.
Never buy a first year vehicle, even a Toyota.
39k thats cheap
2024 tacoma and 1994 screen
Xtra cab for 39k. Lol stop
POV Passenger Princess Impressions beginning at 20:13
2.4 turbo i4 not even making 300hp. Weak ass engine 😂
Got my Colorado LT with WAY better features and performance 44k sticker for 39k from the dealer. Toyota is ridiculous overpriced, and if you lease they dont even include GAP insurance so add another 10% to the cost. Not worth it at all.
My shit is 4 door, has climate control, Auto 4WD, Bedliner, bigger screen, not to mention it drives way smoother and has more power. 2.7L 310 hp 390ft/lb of torque (which can be upgraded to 430 for 400$ at the dealer)
Overpriced good luck Toyota getting a regular buyer to buy your tacos