I’ve always had a funny vision of a young teenage Liam in his council house watching LW 2 with patsy in it thinking “fuckin hell, she’s fit” with no idea what would happen in the future 😂
@@waynesilverman3048 you too young to remember the film with Bowie and the song she did with him? Absolute beginners. one of.my Absolute favourite songs and films...👌👌
My opinion might be unpopular, especially since so many people here hate Patsy, but I've been in a relationship like what she had with Liam. It's just heart crushing to be in a relationship with endless chaos, turmoil because the other person is so selfish. I empathize with her in this regard. I really do
I mean, to choose to go out with the biggest rock star in England who is in his early 20s and expect him to be faithful and even-tempered/calm, with all the temptation surrounding him, and constant chaos with tabloids following you 24/7, she must've known what was coming...she'd have to be extremely naive to not expect this type of behaviour
What I like about most of your vids is that I can listen to them while driving at work and still enjoy it all the same with audio only. Keep up the fantastic work.
Patsy was in 8th Wonder, with Jake Walters who would later be named as Morrisseys BF , from all accounts Jake was a dealer and was more into Morrisseys money than anything romantic. Proof of this is maybe that he has never been linked to any men before or after and instead dates strippers- classy I guess Patsy liked getting loaded
I am grateful for Liam seeing the light years later and Patsy being so mature about it. I wish Liam, Patsy, James, Lennon and (the little girl Liam had with somebody else) and any other ones that have come into their separate lives the best. They made a beautiful couple and it is sad to hear things like this.
James your deep dives really are fabulous, I was in my 20s throughout 90s and i lived and breathed all the culture. You're fortunate because there's so much subject matter to work your talents on...
You look a tiny bit like Paul Burrell. You narrate well, this was never boring. Can’t believe poor patsi turned down Emily, that will eat at her for the rest of her life 😪Thankyou xx 😘
This was great James. I didn’t realise how much I missed in that story. As I was 16-17 back then and hated reading every minute about Liam and Patsy…I kind of feel sorry for her now. Looking back now, especially watching Familiar to Million (night2) it’s a bit sad, really 😢 Fuck the press were relentless thou, poor bastards, was there any real hope for them really? 🤷🏼♀️
I think the relationship between Noel Gallagher and Meg Matthews should be explored too. They weren’t as glamours as what Patsy and Liam seemed to be, but they for sure had a very interesting couple dynamic. There were countless rumors that Noel actually forbade Meg to see their baby daughter, Anais, because she was in-and-out of rehab and was partying too much, alongside wild ladies like Kate Moss and Sadie Frost etc. Noel apparently threatened Meg with her losing custody over Anais, if her party-girl antics wouldn’t change. This is also the biggest reason for their break up, I believe, and it sounds like it was actually Noel who took the role of a responsible parent in this situation. I think around the time Anais was born he matured a lot.
Noel got "sober" in 1998 because he knew it was killing him and he was having cocaine indused panic attacks, hence gas panic, he was always the more responsible one but it seems as he's getting older he's becoming more and more immature and arrogant
@@bananasandcream8192 think it runs in the family.....great band at the time with awesome music, but both were really insufferably arrogant and often cruel in the comments they made about others. I know it was partly bunged on for effect, but not entirely.....they didn't counter it with self-deprecating humour as Jarvis Cocker did, so they always seemed to me like arseholes.
@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 wrong they had a very very violent farther. They loved there mother to high heaven. It was the Dad that was the absolute Chaos in there upbringing. Anyway why would you want to beat your children that’s a bit fucked up
Magnificent work again James! The effort you put in really is appreciated. My two main takeaways were how shitty the press were/are(although i guess we all knew that) and how funny Liam is, even when he's off his head and ranting and raving and depressed.
I was there at Wembley and I remember it as being the greatest concert of my life. Watching it back on TV of course I could see it was horrific, yet when you are there in the crowd everything is forgiven.
I was at the Friday gig, and thought it was good. I was heavily charged up and had been drinking gin and bitter lemon all day and evening. Took me 2 hours to find the hotel we were booked in.
I was at the first night at Wembley stadium as well. Brilliant gig. Had to go and watch from the stands after a while though because it was too hot and I needed a drink!!
I was never a big fan of Oasis in their heyday, but I love hearing of their history. You present this brilliantly. Great work, and great channel. Cheers, James.
I cannot help but laugh out loud listening to Liam talk about "the fucking furniture" and "PG Tips" during the Wembley gig, it's like something out of "Spinal Tap" or a Rock Comedy of sorts. "That's catalogue shit, get them out" hahahahaha, he is a character!!! Thank you James for all this amazing content on the band, subscribed.
Patsy admits herself in later years, it was pure lust for both of them and they had nothing in common. Both high on drugs most of the time too. He was as besotted with her as she was him but as soon as he was on the road it was out of sight out of mind. Same old story which will repeat forever more
Think of the many models throwing themselves at him and her stuck at home and a stunner too. Wasted years with Liam.. Should of stuck with Jim simple minds
My first oasis gig wembley 2000 I don't care i had a great time with the crowd singing along with every song. You couldn't hear how bad liam was most the time. The liam talking through the gig was a bonus to me as an oasis nerd.
James thank you so much for this and obviously all the hard work you put into the research! Have always wondered how this rock n roll marriage came about since neither have given interviews about it. Thank you my friend xo
Woah didnt expect this to be filled with all possible information. Almost like a documentary. From the thumbanil it seemed like a short one dimensional video. Good work 👍🏻
The easiest way of explaining Liam is that he's a mummy's boy. The baby of the family, he was spoiled and indulged endlessly when he was a kid, and he carried that into adulthood. You see that kind of thing a lot in the case of children of divorced parents. The mum will sometimes overcompensate for the failed marriage by overdoing things with her kids - especially the youngest - always giving them what they want and never setting boundaries. Liam is just a grown man who was never told "no" as a child. Regarding Lisa Moorish, she was actually Liam's girlfriend around early-1995. The real reason that Blur and Oasis fell out so spectacularly was that Moorish shagged Damon Albarn while she was still seeing Liam. Liam didn't take kindly to being humiliated like this, and that's where the bad blood between the two groups started. Despite several half-hearted attempts as a singing career, Moorish was essentially a groupie who'd been hanging around various scenes for years prior to this, and eventually moved on to the then-current flavour of the month, Pete Doherty.
Michael Hutchence was king hit in the head by a random person when out at a cafe towards the end of his career. His friends say his personality changed after this and he became more reckless.
that's true, kind of .he was out one evening with his beautiful girlfriend Helena Christensen and a photographer tried to take pictures in an aggressive way, so Michael asked him to stop. he didn't & they got into a tustle where Michael fell & hurt his head badly. this meant he could no longer smell or taste anything at all again. it depressed him & his mental health, so it must have been awful.
Gig's mentioned: Toronto, Lee's Palace, 19/10/1994 Cambridge, Corn Exchange, 4/12/1994 Barrowlands, Glasgow, 27/12/1994 Dublin, Point Theatre, 23/3/1996 Hertfordshire, Knebworth, 10/8/1996 Hertfordshire, Knebworth, 11/8/1996 Atlanta, Fox Theatre, 8/2/1998 New York City, Radio City Music Hall, 1/5/2000 London, Wembley, 22/7/2000
Weird. I was 18 in 1997 so was and still am completely tuned in to that time. I never even knew this lady was his gf or wife. I wouldn't know her name if my life depended on it and I barely recognize her face so as popular as Kurt and Courtney- hardly. BUT this video was informative and interesting as Oasis is dear to my heart as the songs bring back great memories from high school. P.S. I'm from USA.
Patsy Kensit was a high profile UK television presenter, actress and all round "it-girl" of the 90s. Liam would have w@nked over her many afternoons in his mum's council flat.
We knew who Patsy was, in the UK. She was in a famous TV ad, from a very young child plus her group, with her first husband, reached No. 3 in the charts - a tune written by none other than the Pet Shop Boys.
Aww I love your whole Oasis playlist Can we have the Noel and Meg lore next please or was there not much to report about their history ? I love these 90’s videos . I was a tween and teen in the 90’s so I remember reading the papers and hearing stories on the radio or tv about popular bands and it’s interesting to hear the deeper stories behind the tabloids . The lack of internet made me take things at much more face value as a kid as you couldn’t do your own digging in the same way.
I've read all the parts about Liam in Patsy's book and this video feels almost too negative. There are so many sweet stories that Patsy tells about Liam which are left out here and what is also not said here is how she keeps saying how great of a father Liam is to their child and that he even still has a great relationship with his former stepson James (Patsy's child from her 2nd marriage). And what Patsy emphasizes a lot in her book and doesn't really come across here either is the fact that Liam was so young while they were together. Basically Patsy's conclusion about her relationship with Liam in her book is that he was too young, too beautiful, too famous and too busy to settle down yet. She was several years older than him, already married twice before they met and already had a child while he was still very young and the hottest star in the country that everyone wanted to be with
We really need a full breakdown of the Liam / Nicole years and how it affected the music, and how he regained his mojo after Gemmagate and the powerhouse woman that brought him back his career
I remember my parents telling me that at the time, no one could have ever foreseen a cute Canadian girl from a mellow r’n’b/soul band getting together with a wild english rocker lmao.
@@sarahbright5231 Probably not. Debbie never lets Liam out of her sight. She even goes to interviews with him. In 2017, he said in a magazine interview that Debbie and (her twin sister) Katie were the "only people he trusted in the world".
She also played what could at least be described as a significant role in Liam's staying home to house-hunt in England, rather than catch the plane to Chicago, where Oasis were to play their first arena-scale tour of America over here, off the momentum of Knebworth..... and Noel said it "killed them stone-dead in America." That's probably a bit of an overstatement, but it's clearly not wholely off the mark, either. They did go on to tour large arenas in America, including Madison Square Garden, The Hollywood Bowl, & The Patriot Center.... But not til the Don't Believe the Truth Tour.
That's when the Manic Street Preachers were booked to support them. The Manics still went ahead with the tour but played clubs as a headlining band rather than as a support to Oasis in larger venues.
I was pretty much In a blur during this time ,to many casual relationships and beer! Although a fan of oasis I never took much notice of the celebrity culture side.. these videos have filled me in! Have you thought of doing one on what went wrong with the last Album or events that lead up to Noel famously walking out at the last gig...
I have a great photo of Liam and Patsy kissing while getting the shopping in from the car boot. It was 1996, and a mate and I had randomly decided that day that we would meet Noel Gallagher. Yes, Noel, not Liam. So, we set out, as you do, searching the bars in specific London areas we’d heard Noel might hang out. But we gave up after several pints and decided to check out Abbey Road studios instead. After multiple trips across the famous zebra crossing (it had moved by the way - boooo!), someone told us that Noel lived just around the corner. Wow! Maybe we’d meet our idol after all. Off we went to knock on his door. But we couldn’t find the house. We asked a few people, but nobody seemed to know where Noel lived. Then, just as we were about to give up again, a guy told us we were standing right outside of Noel’s gaff. What?!?! We couldn’t believe it. But as we were deciding what to do next, a guy with a camera came up and told us he was looking to get pictures of Liam and Patsy. Liam and Patsy? But this was Noel’s house, wasn’t it? Nope. It was actually Liam’s house. Noel lived a couple of streets away and we’d been misdirected. Anyway, this guy rang Liam’s intercom and asked if he’d come out to sign a photo he had brought along with him. Apparently he sold signed pictures of celebs and made a small living out of it. We watched to see what would happen. But Liam politely refused to come out. So we chatted with this guy for a while on the pavement outside Liam’s house. By the way, this very same bloke would later pop up on TFI Friday as the very first ‘Ugly Bloke’. Imagine me watching the show when he came on. I was blown away! But I digress. We were deflated by Liam’s no-show and about to leave, when up onto the drive in a BMW came Patsy Kensit. She’d been to Sainsbury’s. Wow, it was weird seeing her get out of the car with the shopping. But then guess who came out to lend a hand - in his slippers and tracky bottoms? Yep, Liam. And guess who struck up a conversation with him and kept him there for a few minutes? Yep, me. And guess who got a great photo that I have to this day? Yep, me again. Luckily, I’d nipped to the shop for one of those disposable cameras after the bloke with the camera showed up. Stupidly, we hadn’t even thought to bring one along with us. If that shop hadn’t sold cameras, I wouldn’t be able to prove any of this. But it did, so I can. Just not on UA-cam. So I got a photo with Liam and one of him kissing Patsy, and I went back to my brother’s flat (where I was staying for a week) absolutely buzzing!
@@RabbidTheNabbit yeah man, no mobile phones back then. Couldn’t even look online for info. Just had to guess our way around London and hope for the best. We are from the North East, so totally out of our depth down there. St. John’s Wood was a different universe to our council estate. But somehow it all came together in the end and I got my photos. I even got Ugly Bloke’s address and corresponded with him and he sent me some pics he’d taken of me and Liam. They weren’t as good as the one my mate took of us, but still nice of him to bother.
Definitely be interesting to see a video on meg and Noel. A much less "tumultuous" relationship in terms of the tabloid rumours and cheating but nonetheless lots to discuss
I've always found them as the more interesting couple. They were probably each others soulmates but met at the wrong time, a time in both of their lives that was very tumultuous. Noel wanted to get sober, Meg wasn't ready. However, I do believe they hold respect for each other today. You can tell their daughter Anais was surrounded by love.
Thank you for another great video. I appreciate all that goes into it. Being a Yank, we never had much access to any of this. I feel like I have to play catch up now. lol. Keep it coming, James !!
@@Suzibird307 No need to feel sorry, my friend :) Yank is a fun word and it's ridiculous to take such labels seriously, especially in the 21st century.
That's true. I remember getting the Melody Maker,Select or NME,and the Paolo Hewitt book,but they were never in the spotlight as much as they were in England.
26:23 - she’s talking about wearing a hat on the second night at Knebworth but then that clip of Liam dedicating Live Forever to the ‘cat in the hat’ is from the first night.
There is one thing that really caught my full attention Helena Christensen had an Affair with David Beckham not that long ago and Victoria knew so it could be an old pattern from Helena; then I really feel bad for Patsy, so sad her true love turned out to be a disaster, it has nothing to do with her being a groupie only dating musicians so she really found her soul mate but in her own bad way.
@@desertrose1226…..Helena also had a relationship for a few years with INXS, Michael Hutchison, and rumour has it…as well as a few rendezvous with Jon BonJovi.
Thanks for the memories, in more ways than one. I somehow forgot about the 2nd night at Wembley, even though I was there. It was my sisters birthday, what a present eh, haha. I remember the happy mondays being pretty fuckin bad and gone that day as well, The Doves were alright though
@@JessicaFletcher-nn5ss Exactly! Michael was mentally stimulated by Paula. She had depth, wit, charm and a drop of vulnerability mixed with badass attitude and intelligence. They had chemistry and Paula was a very good looking sexy woman, just not in a 'supermodel' way.
@@india-skyecharlton9314agreed. She's witty, clever, coquettish, sexy and you could carry on an intelligent conversation with her. I totally had a girl crush on her. Looks fade intelligence and a witty personality don't.
32:05 screenshot says Lisa Moorish introduced Liam and Pasty properly. Didn't hear this in the beginning of this video though. Be interesting to hear more of Lisa and how she got caught up in this.
Lisa was Liam's girlfriend, they dated on and off for 2 years, he cheated on her with Patsy and apparently kept seeing her even after he became serious with Patsy. A few years ago Lisa got upset at a journalist talking about her being a fling or one night stand he got pregnant saying it was important for her daughter to know her parents had loved each other (even if they now hate each other lol)
@@sunny70299 But Lisa and Patsy were also mates so I imagine she was furious and maybe saw getting pregnant as a perfect revenge for her coming along and marrying him
In 1994 I was 24 years old and in the prime of my life. I’d been into baggy and the mod thing, etc, but when Oasis came along everything seemed to fall into place. My first Oasis live experience was Glastonbury 1994. They played the NME stage in the afternoon, and out of our group of twelve people only one came along with me to see the band play. The rest would get it later, but we knew then and there. Two months later I saw them at Newcastle Riverside. Oh yes, the infamous gig when Noel got punched in the face and all hell broke loose. I actually sent my photos from that gig to the makers of the film ‘Supersonic’, and although my pics didn’t make the final cut, they included my name in the credits. Yes!! Anyway, the next two or three years were the best of my life. I saw Oasis at Middlesbrough Town Hall (Dec ‘94), Earl’s Court (Nov ‘95) Loch Lomond (Aug ‘96) and another amazing Glastonbury (June ‘95). From there I saw them another six times, with the last one being Glastonbury 2004. More than any other band, Oasis defined my life as a young person. They impacted on me like no other musical force. They made me pick up and learn the guitar. They made me name my first born son Liam. They made me buzz a thousand buzzes. I can’t overstate how much they affected my life. And today I still love the nostalgia. So thanks, James, for your hard work and incredible channel. You’re doing great things, mate. Please keep going.
Awesome man and it's great to see the legend of oasis live on to the next generation I'm 19 always knew of their radio songs but never really got into them until my dad put on definitely mabye and man I'm fuckin hooked, morning glory is my favourite album, love playing oasis on my guitar all the guitar players seem to hate Noel's playing style but I think it's so good man simple is sometimes the best option.. I've gotta see Liam live whilst I'm still young and have time before I'm older and a proper adult lmao
@@nathanadnitt yeah, without Oasis I would never have picked up a guitar and stuck at it. Hearing my fingers play Wonderwall - even badly - was enough to get me hooked and keep me learning. Fuck the supercilious music professors who look down on Oasis fans. They will never get it. As for Liam live. I took my two adult sons to see Liam and give them the closest experience they’ll ever have to seeing Oasis. It was a fantastic night. Enjoy.
This is a tragically pathetic story showing how bad it can get for people in the business. I have to say though this line "and there she goes with more furniture without leaving a fuckin' teabag" really gave me a good laugh! I mean what can you say? In the end its really a sad story though. As a more recent Oasis fan i appreciate you sharing these stories with us James.
I think with Debbie Will bê different because although it started so stranger as with Nicole and Patsy, Eebbie arrived when Liam wasn’t in Oasis, he wasn’t so famous and she helped him to comeback making music.
No he hasn't.. Jesus, reading comments sections and reddit..You really do see anyone under 30, are from a completely different universe Where people throw around words and labels with zero idea of meaning. Welcome to the "i spent too much time on the internet age "
you mentioned in this video that Noel wrote Wonderwall for Meg Mstthews, but in your hidden narrative B-sides video I'm sure you suggested he wrote it for the girl he flew to meet in San Francisco? have i got that right?
I remember a bit of this. I always found Patsy Kensit to be a strange choice for Liam. She’s was a bit older and from the 80s and she wasn’t very cool. I remember that awful cover of Vanity Fair of the pair of them in bed. Britpop was pretty much over by that point.
Wait wait wait wait . . . the Cat in the Hat was Simon Mason, no? Alan McGee from Creation described him as Oasis' "rock and roll doctor" and that makes a lot more sense given the craziness at Knebworth
Second night in a shithole is one of the funniest moments in the history of Oasis. I can understand why it horrified Noel, but that tape is absolute GOLD.
Once in 1996, I was at an American oasis show and ended up meeting the band. When I met Liam our eyes locked. I said good show and I was struck by his to presence. Later we chatted in the green room. We made out a bunch and goofed around a bunch, like kids, cuz we were kids. I was just 18...a senior in high school. I was so in love that night and didn't want him to go.... I said don't go. Don't go... He said he would've liked to have taken me out for a steak and bottle of wine proper. During all that he told me about his girlfriend who was a famous actress... I was hurt but since I liked him so much and didn't know if it was serious and we were just goofing off amongst a group, I didn't want to believe it. But I really loved him right then. I always missed him for years but ignored it because I knew I was probably just a silly groupie. I'll always hold a tiny corner in my heart for him. PS sorry Patsy if you happen to read this. I meant no offense to you. I was still young and didn't take any of it seriously sexually like you do in a deeper relationship. He was a gentleman and it was truly only kissing. PPS I edited this but it was only autocorrect errors
@@davidjames579 it's a post-reddit thing...supposed to ensure that if conversation is sparked, the poster didn't edit their words to change something drastically, or to win an argument, etc etc, so it'll say like "edit: spelling" or summat
@@mywhychromosome Strange. I don't see what's wrong with editing. Sometimes you have a better take later and you finesse what's there. You're not going to get it right first time every time.
@@davidjames579 it's just so ppl know I didn't change anything major. Not that there's anything wrong with it or I think I can't. I wonder about other posts what got changed sometimes so I put it in case someone wondered. No biggie.
@@youtubingbabs Yeah, I actually quite appreciate it when people do it, personally. Sorry if I was trying to 'explain for you', just didn't know if you'd seen it
Patsy was same age as me I remember when she had a group with her brother,eighth wonder.... she wasn't very talented but was pretty and courted the media.shes actually been married four times,her last being Jeremy healy from haysi fantaysi... She had a bad cocaine habit whilst with Gallagher.She is 54 now and seems to have had quite a lot of plastic surgery.I would say she displayed the general behaviour of an individual shoved into showbiz as a child.
Noel is wrong on the live album - the familiar to millions recording that was released on cd/dvd was the show where Liam was fine. The second show that was live on Sky was the one where he was smashed and ranting.
@@masonmennell8514 I personally think their Brussels gig was the last truly energetic and fun performance. Liam's voice was in a better shape, the mix was great, the band seemed to still enjoy themselves and the audience was wild too.
I know one of Patsys relatives, a top geezer,and a serious man, Liam used to like to mouth off about Patsys family’s criminal past, let’s just say, Liam opened his mouth once to often, and my mate paid him a visit, Liam never mouthed off about Patsys family again
Those years seem like about five minutes ago in memory. But when I see that mid to late 90's TV footage it looks like the Dark Ages. Like episodes of "Doctor in the House" or some such.
To be fair ... everyone calling Patsy a gold digger - well she has worked all her life, from four years old when she was in a film with Elizabeth Taylor right up to present day. May have always been drawn to a rock and roll lifestyle but has earnt her own money! She didn’t have parents to rely on either.
I’ve always had a funny vision of a young teenage Liam in his council house watching LW 2 with patsy in it thinking “fuckin hell, she’s fit” with no idea what would happen in the future 😂
Yeah I tugged off to that back in the day too.
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@@vanman757 and in that music vid she did
@@waynesilverman3048 you too young to remember the film with Bowie and the song she did with him? Absolute beginners. one of.my Absolute favourite songs and films...👌👌
Burnage isn't a council estate
This is so high school it's amazing! Well done man!
My opinion might be unpopular, especially since so many people here hate Patsy, but I've been in a relationship like what she had with Liam. It's just heart crushing to be in a relationship with endless chaos, turmoil because the other person is so selfish. I empathize with her in this regard. I really do
What? You mean to say you too were also one half of a celebrity power couple back in the 1990's? If so your name doesn't ring a bell.
Patsy, is not a complete Patsy. She knew what, she signed up for .
@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 😂
Maybe you're right, but you seem to conveniently forget that (at least in that relationship), both were selfish.
I mean, to choose to go out with the biggest rock star in England who is in his early 20s and expect him to be faithful and even-tempered/calm, with all the temptation surrounding him, and constant chaos with tabloids following you 24/7, she must've known what was coming...she'd have to be extremely naive to not expect this type of behaviour
Was not expecting a legit, fully researched video. Cheers!
What I like about most of your vids is that I can listen to them while driving at work and still enjoy it all the same with audio only.
Keep up the fantastic work.
Devouring these videos before I attend my first Liam gig next month. Cannot wait!
Patsy was in 8th Wonder, with Jake Walters who would later be named as Morrisseys BF , from all accounts Jake was a dealer and was more into Morrisseys money than anything romantic. Proof of this is maybe that he has never been linked to any men before or after and instead dates strippers- classy
I guess Patsy liked getting loaded
I am grateful for Liam seeing the light years later and Patsy being so mature about it. I wish Liam, Patsy, James, Lennon and (the little girl Liam had with somebody else) and any other ones that have come into their separate lives the best. They made a beautiful couple and it is sad to hear things like this.
James your deep dives really are fabulous, I was in my 20s throughout 90s and i lived and breathed all the culture. You're fortunate because there's so much subject matter to work your talents on...
You look a tiny bit like Paul Burrell. You narrate well, this was never boring. Can’t believe poor patsi turned down Emily, that will eat at her for the rest of her life 😪Thankyou xx 😘
You're very thorough in your cross-referencing of reliable sources, creating a consistent narrative - well done!
This was great James. I didn’t realise how much I missed in that story. As I was 16-17 back then and hated reading every minute about Liam and Patsy…I kind of feel sorry for her now. Looking back now, especially watching Familiar to Million (night2) it’s a bit sad, really 😢
Fuck the press were relentless thou, poor bastards, was there any real hope for them really? 🤷🏼♀️
I'm so glad I'm not famous! ..the paps are relentless in their search for a photo or a story!
Another excellent video James, you're becoming for Oasis what Mark Lewisohn is for the Beatles!
Wow, thanks!
I came for the “church/cult” video and stayed for Oasis. I’m not a massive fan of Oasis (and never was) but this content is really fascinating.
"What's a girl got to do to get a drink around here" is possibly the most cringey chat-up line ever
this is what i thought when i heard that 🥴
Decent bit of banter towards a bunch of lary pissed up lads, dealt with the situation well, good work
The 90’s for you
"Whose leg do I have to hump to get a drink round here?"
Round here is she tried that shyte they would say go to the bar like everyone else
I think the relationship between Noel Gallagher and Meg Matthews should be explored too. They weren’t as glamours as what Patsy and Liam seemed to be, but they for sure had a very interesting couple dynamic. There were countless rumors that Noel actually forbade Meg to see their baby daughter, Anais, because she was in-and-out of rehab and was partying too much, alongside wild ladies like Kate Moss and Sadie Frost etc.
Noel apparently threatened Meg with her losing custody over Anais, if her party-girl antics wouldn’t change. This is also the biggest reason for their break up, I believe, and it sounds like it was actually Noel who took the role of a responsible parent in this situation. I think around the time Anais was born he matured a lot.
Noel got "sober" in 1998 because he knew it was killing him and he was having cocaine indused panic attacks, hence gas panic, he was always the more responsible one but it seems as he's getting older he's becoming more and more immature and arrogant
@@nathanadnitt tbf he's always been arrogant
& a bit of a helmet
@@bananasandcream8192 think it runs in the family.....great band at the time with awesome music, but both were really insufferably arrogant and often cruel in the comments they made about others. I know it was partly bunged on for effect, but not entirely.....they didn't counter it with self-deprecating humour as Jarvis Cocker did, so they always seemed to me like arseholes.
@@kooltom4 They most probably got it from their Mother? She probably spoilt them rotten when a beating would have been the answer?
@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 wrong they had a very very violent farther. They loved there mother to high heaven. It was the Dad that was the absolute Chaos in there upbringing.
Anyway why would you want to beat your children that’s a bit fucked up
Magnificent work again James!
The effort you put in really is appreciated.
My two main takeaways were how shitty the press were/are(although i guess we all knew that) and how funny Liam is, even when he's off his head and ranting and raving and depressed.
I was there at Wembley and I remember it as being the greatest concert of my life. Watching it back on TV of course I could see it was horrific, yet when you are there in the crowd everything is forgiven.
I was at the Friday gig, and thought it was good. I was heavily charged up and had been drinking gin and bitter lemon all day and evening. Took me 2 hours to find the hotel we were booked in.
I was there to fantastic day and night.
I was at the first night at Wembley stadium as well. Brilliant gig. Had to go and watch from the stands after a while though because it was too hot and I needed a drink!!
@@mrkipling2201 I went up the stands too. I was baking. Great day. The sun was shining and everything seemed perfect in the world.
It looked hilarious to me. A combination of singing and stand up comedy.
I was never a big fan of Oasis in their heyday, but I love hearing of their history. You present this brilliantly. Great work, and great channel. Cheers, James.
I was more a Blur fan but the antics of Oasis were like a pantomine.
Amazing video, I love learning all about the oasis stories from back in the day cos I never got to hear them
I cannot help but laugh out loud listening to Liam talk about "the fucking furniture" and "PG Tips" during the Wembley gig, it's like something out of "Spinal Tap" or a Rock Comedy of sorts.
"That's catalogue shit, get them out" hahahahaha, he is a character!!!
Thank you James for all this amazing content on the band, subscribed.
Oh Yes, it's beyond satire .
how about that tea bags? patsy is so evil 😂
wow i never knew what he was saying on stage at wembley. whoever transcribed that is a hero
Remind me what year was this? I seen him in Glasgow 2005 (I think) and he was mumbling loads then, god knows what about
@@BlowinFree this footage is from 2000
ChatGPT
He cheated they fought he cheated they fought: the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
👌 Well said. Bravo. 👏
Addictions. Addicts can’t stop!
Absolutely 💯
Thanks for the advice, Vaas.
Is celebrity life. Its normal
Patsy admits herself in later years, it was pure lust for both of them and they had nothing in common. Both high on drugs most of the time too. He was as besotted with her as she was him but as soon as he was on the road it was out of sight out of mind. Same old story which will repeat forever more
Think of the many models throwing themselves at him and her stuck at home and a stunner too.
Wasted years with Liam.. Should of stuck with Jim simple minds
@@MP-po6fj yes totally agree!
My first oasis gig wembley 2000 I don't care i had a great time with the crowd singing along with every song. You couldn't hear how bad liam was most the time. The liam talking through the gig was a bonus to me as an oasis nerd.
These videos are ducking great James, keep making them mate fantastic work ⚡️
James thank you so much for this and obviously all the hard work you put into the research! Have always wondered how this rock n roll marriage came about since neither have given interviews about it. Thank you my friend xo
Good one mate.. impressed by how you can understand what liam says in the wembley gig 😝😝
Great video mate. Please keep making more, you're good at it
Great video James, from start to finish. Really enjoyed it.
Super explanation! Thanks from an French Oasis man. I'd be interested in an episode about the relationship between Liam and Nicole. Thanks in advance
Love her uploads James, please keep digging deep and bringing us some more nuggets!
Woah didnt expect this to be filled with all possible information. Almost like a documentary. From the thumbanil it seemed like a short one dimensional video. Good work 👍🏻
She has a penchant for lead singers of successful bands. 😊
She was doing amber herd shite before it was cool.
As lead singers have a penchant for ‘beautiful’ actresses.
So she fancied herself?
Starf**kers! Lol
#PopTart
"it's only a piece of furniture, true. she takes this and she takes that" LMAO
I think patsy was so gracious what she said about her marriage at the end. Respect 🙏
Great insight! I always learn something new on this channel
Well, Patsy always had a soft spot for Simple Minds.
Classic
Very good 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
😂👏
Brilliant 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣👌
damn my education
"Not even a tea bag!!" Liam Gallagher Wembley 2000 👍🤣
great video, would be cool to have one on Damon and Justine or Noel and Meg
"WITHOUT LEAVING A FUCKING TEABAG" HA! Got a good laugh from that.
Dude, this was riveting! I just re-lived so many years lol
« You’re too beautiful to be married. »
Thank goodness Noel Gallagher was the bands lyricist.
I really enjoyed this. Thank you for uploading x
The easiest way of explaining Liam is that he's a mummy's boy. The baby of the family, he was spoiled and indulged endlessly when he was a kid, and he carried that into adulthood.
You see that kind of thing a lot in the case of children of divorced parents. The mum will sometimes overcompensate for the failed marriage by overdoing things with her kids - especially the youngest - always giving them what they want and never setting boundaries. Liam is just a grown man who was never told "no" as a child.
Regarding Lisa Moorish, she was actually Liam's girlfriend around early-1995. The real reason that Blur and Oasis fell out so spectacularly was that Moorish shagged Damon Albarn while she was still seeing Liam. Liam didn't take kindly to being humiliated like this, and that's where the bad blood between the two groups started. Despite several half-hearted attempts as a singing career, Moorish was essentially a groupie who'd been hanging around various scenes for years prior to this, and eventually moved on to the then-current flavour of the month, Pete Doherty.
The video I didn't know I needed, I will subscribe now!
Michael Hutchence was king hit in the head by a random person when out at a cafe towards the end of his career. His friends say his personality changed after this and he became more reckless.
that's true, kind of .he was out one evening with his beautiful girlfriend Helena Christensen and a photographer tried to take pictures in an aggressive way, so Michael asked him to stop. he didn't & they got into a tustle where Michael fell & hurt his head badly. this meant he could no longer smell or taste anything at all again. it depressed him & his mental health, so it must have been awful.
@@Camille_Anderson Yes, that's right!
It was a taxi driver.
Great video mate, really enjoyed that
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it :)
Gig's mentioned:
Toronto, Lee's Palace, 19/10/1994
Cambridge, Corn Exchange, 4/12/1994
Barrowlands, Glasgow, 27/12/1994
Dublin, Point Theatre, 23/3/1996
Hertfordshire, Knebworth, 10/8/1996
Hertfordshire, Knebworth, 11/8/1996
Atlanta, Fox Theatre, 8/2/1998
New York City, Radio City Music Hall, 1/5/2000
London, Wembley, 22/7/2000
Wish I had gone to the Toronto, Canada show in 1994. My band played there are a few years ago. Iconic Toronto landmark.
Weird. I was 18 in 1997 so was and still am completely tuned in to that time. I never even knew this lady was his gf or wife. I wouldn't know her name if my life depended on it and I barely recognize her face so as popular as Kurt and Courtney- hardly. BUT this video was informative and interesting as Oasis is dear to my heart as the songs bring back great memories from high school. P.S. I'm from USA.
Patsy Kensit was a high profile UK television presenter, actress and all round "it-girl" of the 90s. Liam would have w@nked over her many afternoons in his mum's council flat.
We knew who Patsy was, in the UK. She was in a famous TV ad, from a very young child plus her group, with her first husband, reached No. 3 in the charts - a tune written by none other than the Pet Shop Boys.
C'mon she's Rita Hargan Daz from Lethal Weapon 2!
Most English people couldn't have given a piss about Whiney heroin boy, or crazy heroin girl, but everyone knew Patsy and Liam. So your point is moot.
@@davidjames579 Exactly. When I first heard about her dating Liam I had no clue who Liam even was. lol
Aww I love your whole Oasis playlist Can we have the Noel and Meg lore next please or was there not much to report about their history ? I love these 90’s videos . I was a tween and teen in the 90’s so I remember reading the papers and hearing stories on the radio or tv about popular bands and it’s interesting to hear the deeper stories behind the tabloids . The lack of internet made me take things at much more face value as a kid as you couldn’t do your own digging in the same way.
I've read all the parts about Liam in Patsy's book and this video feels almost too negative. There are so many sweet stories that Patsy tells about Liam which are left out here and what is also not said here is how she keeps saying how great of a father Liam is to their child and that he even still has a great relationship with his former stepson James (Patsy's child from her 2nd marriage). And what Patsy emphasizes a lot in her book and doesn't really come across here either is the fact that Liam was so young while they were together. Basically Patsy's conclusion about her relationship with Liam in her book is that he was too young, too beautiful, too famous and too busy to settle down yet. She was several years older than him, already married twice before they met and already had a child while he was still very young and the hottest star in the country that everyone wanted to be with
Amazing, immersive channel! You’ve turned me into an Oasis nerd by osmosis.
We really need a full breakdown of the Liam / Nicole years and how it affected the music, and how he regained his mojo after Gemmagate and the powerhouse woman that brought him back his career
Isn’t it a bit personal to be talking about Liam and Noel’s life behind the music .
I remember my parents telling me that at the time, no one could have ever foreseen a cute Canadian girl from a mellow r’n’b/soul band getting together with a wild english rocker lmao.
@@forestfan3 your commenting on a video discussing Liam’s marriage 🤣
She’ll be another cast aside like yesterday’s enchilada’s
@@sarahbright5231
Probably not. Debbie never lets Liam out of her sight. She even goes to interviews with him. In 2017, he said in a magazine interview that Debbie and (her twin sister) Katie were the "only people he trusted in the world".
Your doing a good job on the videos man
Tony’s book describes the Patsy introduction brilliantly!!
She also played what could at least be described as a significant role in Liam's staying home to house-hunt in England, rather than catch the plane to Chicago, where Oasis were to play their first arena-scale tour of America over here, off the momentum of Knebworth..... and Noel said it "killed them stone-dead in America." That's probably a bit of an overstatement, but it's clearly not wholely off the mark, either. They did go on to tour large arenas in America, including Madison Square Garden, The Hollywood Bowl, & The Patriot Center.... But not til the Don't Believe the Truth Tour.
That's when the Manic Street Preachers were booked to support them. The Manics still went ahead with the tour but played clubs as a headlining band rather than as a support to Oasis in larger venues.
Lee’s palace is a legendary place. They also had nirvana there before nevermind in 90 I believe. Also many other b4 they were famous gigs there.
I have a gig tomorrow and.should be practicing, but here I am getting into other people's lives
If the press *had* doctored that image, there would be a record of a ruling and settlement.
Draw your own concludions.
I was pretty much In a blur during this time ,to many casual relationships and beer! Although a fan of oasis I never took much notice of the celebrity culture side.. these videos have filled me in! Have you thought of doing one on what went wrong with the last Album or events that lead up to Noel famously walking out at the last gig...
A 'blur' lol
@@sineadbenn5313same reaction. Pun intended I bet
Saw Liam at Albert hall Saturday you can tell he’s content now , oasis will never be again we’ve excepted that .
I have a great photo of Liam and Patsy kissing while getting the shopping in from the car boot.
It was 1996, and a mate and I had randomly decided that day that we would meet Noel Gallagher.
Yes, Noel, not Liam.
So, we set out, as you do, searching the bars in specific London areas we’d heard Noel might hang out.
But we gave up after several pints and decided to check out Abbey Road studios instead.
After multiple trips across the famous zebra crossing (it had moved by the way - boooo!), someone told us that Noel lived just around the corner.
Wow! Maybe we’d meet our idol after all. Off we went to knock on his door.
But we couldn’t find the house. We asked a few people, but nobody seemed to know where Noel lived.
Then, just as we were about to give up again, a guy told us we were standing right outside of Noel’s gaff.
What?!?! We couldn’t believe it. But as we were deciding what to do next, a guy with a camera came up and told us he was looking to get pictures of Liam and Patsy.
Liam and Patsy? But this was Noel’s house, wasn’t it?
Nope. It was actually Liam’s house. Noel lived a couple of streets away and we’d been misdirected.
Anyway, this guy rang Liam’s intercom and asked if he’d come out to sign a photo he had brought along with him.
Apparently he sold signed pictures of celebs and made a small living out of it.
We watched to see what would happen.
But Liam politely refused to come out.
So we chatted with this guy for a while on the pavement outside Liam’s house.
By the way, this very same bloke would later pop up on TFI Friday as the very first ‘Ugly Bloke’. Imagine me watching the show when he came on. I was blown away!
But I digress.
We were deflated by Liam’s no-show and about to leave, when up onto the drive in a BMW came Patsy Kensit.
She’d been to Sainsbury’s. Wow, it was weird seeing her get out of the car with the shopping.
But then guess who came out to lend a hand - in his slippers and tracky bottoms?
Yep, Liam.
And guess who struck up a conversation with him and kept him there for a few minutes?
Yep, me.
And guess who got a great photo that I have to this day?
Yep, me again.
Luckily, I’d nipped to the shop for one of those disposable cameras after the bloke with the camera showed up. Stupidly, we hadn’t even thought to bring one along with us.
If that shop hadn’t sold cameras, I wouldn’t be able to prove any of this.
But it did, so I can. Just not on UA-cam.
So I got a photo with Liam and one of him kissing Patsy, and I went back to my brother’s flat (where I was staying for a week) absolutely buzzing!
Great story man!
@@RabbidTheNabbit yeah man, no mobile phones back then. Couldn’t even look online for info. Just had to guess our way around London and hope for the best. We are from the North East, so totally out of our depth down there. St. John’s Wood was a different universe to our council estate. But somehow it all came together in the end and I got my photos. I even got Ugly Bloke’s address and corresponded with him and he sent me some pics he’d taken of me and Liam. They weren’t as good as the one my mate took of us, but still nice of him to bother.
Post the flick! Great story
@@SGPriv227 Eh? You can’t post photos on here, can you?
You should write a book!
Definitely be interesting to see a video on meg and Noel. A much less "tumultuous" relationship in terms of the tabloid rumours and cheating but nonetheless lots to discuss
I've always found them as the more interesting couple. They were probably each others soulmates but met at the wrong time, a time in both of their lives that was very tumultuous. Noel wanted to get sober, Meg wasn't ready. However, I do believe they hold respect for each other today. You can tell their daughter Anais was surrounded by love.
Except Liam questioned Noel's daughter's paternity after she was born (to his face). What was that driving at...
Nice one mate. Always wanted to know what happened with them. Noel and Meg now please 👍
I got my hopes up thinking this was a compilation of Liam Gallagher collaborations, then I saw the full title.
Thank you for another great video. I appreciate all that goes into it. Being a Yank, we never had much access to any of this. I feel like I have to play catch up now. lol. Keep it coming, James !!
It is so cringe for a Yank to refer to themselves as a Yank. It’s like an Englishman referring to himself as a Limey.
@@OakwiseBecoming Is it? Sorry about that. I guess I just feel like if you say you're American, sometimes you get a lot of blowback. Sorry tho'.
@@Suzibird307 No need to feel sorry, my friend :) Yank is a fun word and it's ridiculous to take such labels seriously, especially in the 21st century.
@@dlovas Thank you for the kind words. I don't view it as an insult at all. I guess I was thinking of it with an American perspective.
That's true. I remember getting the Melody Maker,Select or NME,and the Paolo Hewitt book,but they were never in the spotlight as much as they were in England.
Absolutely brilliant video.
Great watch , liked the little story’s you never knew 👍
Great video James, you present well
26:23 - she’s talking about wearing a hat on the second night at Knebworth but then that clip of Liam dedicating Live Forever to the ‘cat in the hat’ is from the first night.
For me Patsy's heyday was Eighth Wonder "I'm Not Scared", a great PSB song.
Yes Morrisseys rent a partner was the drummer- by all accounts a nasty bit of work,
There is one thing that really caught my full attention Helena Christensen had an Affair with David Beckham not that long ago and Victoria knew so it could be an old pattern from Helena; then I really feel bad for Patsy, so sad her true love turned out to be a disaster, it has nothing to do with her being a groupie only dating musicians so she really found her soul mate but in her own bad way.
Liam has been with Helena too. Can't believe someone so beautiful could fall for a guy like him
@@desertrose1226…..Helena also had a relationship for a few years with INXS, Michael Hutchison, and rumour has it…as well as a few rendezvous with Jon BonJovi.
Thanks for the memories, in more ways than one. I somehow forgot about the 2nd night at Wembley, even though I was there. It was my sisters birthday, what a present eh, haha. I remember the happy mondays being pretty fuckin bad and gone that day as well, The Doves were alright though
While INXS were better than Oasis, I can’t understand why anyone would leave Helena Christiansen for Paula Yates.
She had a brain
@@JessicaFletcher-nn5ss Exactly! Michael was mentally stimulated by Paula. She had depth, wit, charm and a drop of vulnerability mixed with badass attitude and intelligence. They had chemistry and Paula was a very good looking sexy woman, just not in a 'supermodel' way.
@@india-skyecharlton9314agreed. She's witty, clever, coquettish, sexy and you could carry on an intelligent conversation with her. I totally had a girl crush on her. Looks fade intelligence and a witty personality don't.
Totally agree
@@india-skyecharlton9314I think that’s what I’m not getting. I don’t see how Helena Christiansen was so shallow and Paula Yates was so deep.
32:05 screenshot says Lisa Moorish introduced Liam and Pasty properly. Didn't hear this in the beginning of this video though. Be interesting to hear more of Lisa and how she got caught up in this.
Pasty 😂
@@Multijoe84 She's Cornish, isn't she?
Lisa was Liam's girlfriend, they dated on and off for 2 years, he cheated on her with Patsy and apparently kept seeing her even after he became serious with Patsy. A few years ago Lisa got upset at a journalist talking about her being a fling or one night stand he got pregnant saying it was important for her daughter to know her parents had loved each other (even if they now hate each other lol)
@@sunny70299 But Lisa and Patsy were also mates so I imagine she was furious and maybe saw getting pregnant as a perfect revenge for her coming along and marrying him
@@josephegglestone8654 maybe or maybe she wasn't ready to let him go. Motives aren't always sinister.
Brilliant video again mate
In 1994 I was 24 years old and in the prime of my life. I’d been into baggy and the mod thing, etc, but when Oasis came along everything seemed to fall into place.
My first Oasis live experience was Glastonbury 1994. They played the NME stage in the afternoon, and out of our group of twelve people only one came along with me to see the band play. The rest would get it later, but we knew then and there.
Two months later I saw them at Newcastle Riverside. Oh yes, the infamous gig when Noel got punched in the face and all hell broke loose.
I actually sent my photos from that gig to the makers of the film ‘Supersonic’, and although my pics didn’t make the final cut, they included my name in the credits. Yes!!
Anyway, the next two or three years were the best of my life. I saw Oasis at Middlesbrough Town Hall (Dec ‘94), Earl’s Court (Nov ‘95) Loch Lomond (Aug ‘96) and another amazing Glastonbury (June ‘95).
From there I saw them another six times, with the last one being Glastonbury 2004.
More than any other band, Oasis defined my life as a young person. They impacted on me like no other musical force. They made me pick up and learn the guitar. They made me name my first born son Liam. They made me buzz a thousand buzzes. I can’t overstate how much they affected my life.
And today I still love the nostalgia. So thanks, James, for your hard work and incredible channel. You’re doing great things, mate.
Please keep going.
Patsy's done a book and Tony done a book now Gary's gone and wrote a fucking novel on UA-cam nicely written mate
Awesome man and it's great to see the legend of oasis live on to the next generation I'm 19 always knew of their radio songs but never really got into them until my dad put on definitely mabye and man I'm fuckin hooked, morning glory is my favourite album, love playing oasis on my guitar all the guitar players seem to hate Noel's playing style but I think it's so good man simple is sometimes the best option.. I've gotta see Liam live whilst I'm still young and have time before I'm older and a proper adult lmao
@@nathanadnitt yeah, without Oasis I would never have picked up a guitar and stuck at it.
Hearing my fingers play Wonderwall - even badly - was enough to get me hooked and keep me learning.
Fuck the supercilious music professors who look down on Oasis fans. They will never get it.
As for Liam live. I took my two adult sons to see Liam and give them the closest experience they’ll ever have to seeing Oasis. It was a fantastic night.
Enjoy.
95-96 for me was the best 2 years of my life , absolutely mental times
arr that's a sad story ! wouldn't believe that sombody like them could effect a person's life so profoundly 😅
Would love to see one about Liam and Nicole too x
This is a tragically pathetic story showing how bad it can get for people in the business. I have to say though this line "and there she goes with more furniture without leaving a fuckin' teabag" really gave me a good laugh! I mean what can you say? In the end its really a sad story though. As a more recent Oasis fan i appreciate you sharing these stories with us James.
@@vanman757 Thats a humerous way of putting it but after I figured out what you meant I have to agree with you I regret to say.
I think with Debbie Will bê different because although it started so stranger as with Nicole and Patsy, Eebbie arrived when Liam wasn’t in Oasis, he wasn’t so famous and she helped him to comeback making music.
Hey James! Never knew they met round my way in Toronto lol.
.... The birds are mingiiiiiinaaahh
@@dizzyupthefool5180 the sun sheeeeeyaaaines bright
lol Noel just jamming like it’s another day while his brother loses it on stage. Liam definitely has bi polar
No he hasn't.. Jesus, reading comments sections and reddit..You really do see anyone under 30, are from a completely different universe Where people throw around words and labels with zero idea of meaning. Welcome to the "i spent too much time on the internet age "
It's funny I should come across this on the same week of the Gazza documentary. So many similarities.
Makes me want to go back and watch wembley 2nd night just for the comedy
Same mate
Lol... can't believe you spent time producing this.
Can't believe you spent time watching and commenting. What a loser.
you mentioned in this video that Noel wrote Wonderwall for Meg Mstthews, but in your hidden narrative B-sides video I'm sure you suggested he wrote it for the girl he flew to meet in San Francisco? have i got that right?
I remember a bit of this. I always found Patsy Kensit to be a strange choice for Liam. She’s was a bit older and from the 80s and she wasn’t very cool. I remember that awful cover of Vanity Fair of the pair of them in bed. Britpop was pretty much over by that point.
She's gorgeous, but Liam was not a good match for her.
Yes. She was very naff!
Wait wait wait wait . . . the Cat in the Hat was Simon Mason, no? Alan McGee from Creation described him as Oasis' "rock and roll doctor" and that makes a lot more sense given the craziness at Knebworth
Second night in a shithole is one of the funniest moments in the history of Oasis. I can understand why it horrified Noel, but that tape is absolute GOLD.
A tube top and a mini shirt. Now if that doesn't say "Hot Chick " I don't know what does !! 🤣🤣🤣 So Funny.
So 90s
I never realised the Wembley gig and dvd/album were so bad. I was there on the Friday I thought it was great!
Once in 1996, I was at an American oasis show and ended up meeting the band. When I met Liam our eyes locked. I said good show and I was struck by his to presence. Later we chatted in the green room. We made out a bunch and goofed around a bunch, like kids, cuz we were kids. I was just 18...a senior in high school. I was so in love that night and didn't want him to go.... I said don't go. Don't go... He said he would've liked to have taken me out for a steak and bottle of wine proper. During all that he told me about his girlfriend who was a famous actress... I was hurt but since I liked him so much and didn't know if it was serious and we were just goofing off amongst a group, I didn't want to believe it. But I really loved him right then. I always missed him for years but ignored it because I knew I was probably just a silly groupie. I'll always hold a tiny corner in my heart for him.
PS sorry Patsy if you happen to read this. I meant no offense to you. I was still young and didn't take any of it seriously sexually like you do in a deeper relationship. He was a gentleman and it was truly only kissing.
PPS I edited this but it was only autocorrect errors
Why did you mention you'd edited it? You are allowed to.
@@davidjames579 it's a post-reddit thing...supposed to ensure that if conversation is sparked, the poster didn't edit their words to change something drastically, or to win an argument, etc etc, so it'll say like "edit: spelling" or summat
@@mywhychromosome Strange. I don't see what's wrong with editing. Sometimes you have a better take later and you finesse what's there. You're not going to get it right first time every time.
@@davidjames579 it's just so ppl know I didn't change anything major. Not that there's anything wrong with it or I think I can't. I wonder about other posts what got changed sometimes so I put it in case someone wondered. No biggie.
@@youtubingbabs Yeah, I actually quite appreciate it when people do it, personally. Sorry if I was trying to 'explain for you', just didn't know if you'd seen it
I think Liams relationship with other members of his family tell you all you need to know.
Patsy was same age as me I remember when she had a group with her brother,eighth wonder.... she wasn't very talented but was pretty and courted the media.shes actually been married four times,her last being Jeremy healy from haysi fantaysi... She had a bad cocaine habit whilst with Gallagher.She is 54 now and seems to have had quite a lot of plastic surgery.I would say she displayed the general behaviour of an individual shoved into showbiz as a child.
Dangerous upbringing and probably had the kind of parents who pushed their kids to work and lived off them.
Spot on peachmelba
There’s a photo in the beginning of the video where she looks like Daniella Westbrook, a soap star who lost her septum to cocaine addiction.
Love the way patsy talks and sounds, plus she was a sort.
Noel is wrong on the live album - the familiar to millions recording that was released on cd/dvd was the show where Liam was fine. The second show that was live on Sky was the one where he was smashed and ranting.
Wembley 2000 first night is one of their greatest gigs
@@badgasaurus4211 what gig do you think would've been better around that time
@@DH-TV what is the sky 1 gig
@@masonmennell8514 I personally think their Brussels gig was the last truly energetic and fun performance. Liam's voice was in a better shape, the mix was great, the band seemed to still enjoy themselves and the audience was wild too.
@@dlovas brussels is definitely one of liams best vocals of the 2000s. If that setlist was longer I would put it as the best gig of the year
I know one of Patsys relatives, a top geezer,and a serious man, Liam used to like to mouth off about Patsys family’s criminal past, let’s just say, Liam opened his mouth once to often, and my mate paid him a visit, Liam never mouthed off about Patsys family again
C'mon Liam Gallagher's a hard bastard. He's never been beaten.
@@davidjames579Really?
I believe it! Patsy's family (e.g. her dad) were serious gangsters
@@littlecatfeet9064 no one can take Liam Gallagher down, he's a legend!
'I'm a fucking txxt' Liam Gallagher. The only time I've ever agreed with the fucking txxt.
Those years seem like about five minutes ago in memory. But when I see that mid to late 90's TV footage it looks like the Dark Ages. Like episodes of "Doctor in the House" or some such.
how could he not be feral coming from such an abusive home. poor bastard. he would make for an terrible partner, you would need a short lead.
To be fair ... everyone calling Patsy a gold digger - well she has worked all her life, from four years old when she was in a film with Elizabeth Taylor right up to present day. May have always been drawn to a rock and roll lifestyle but has earnt her own money! She didn’t have parents to rely on either.
it wasn't Patsy's fault the relationship ended. Liam was a dick. He cheated.
When I watched the 1974 'Great Gatsby', I was pretty suprised when I realised Patsy was Daisy's little girl
Yeah she's not a bad person, but three marriages later, she's not behind the door