Bebop is one of those really cool sci-fi settings that I would never want to live anywhere near. Everything looks dirty, most people are poor, crime and corruption are rampant beyond belief and everything seems like it's being held together by liquor and cigarette smoke.
@@icollectstories5702 Oh no, yea I get that and it's totally badass. This isn't a quality judgement on the series itself, far from it. I wouldn't wanna live in MOST noir settings.
@@samwill7259 Just pointing out that if you like this sort of stuff, there's a lot more out there. Noir tends toward cynicism and dystopianism, and its clutter contrasts with the sterility and simple functionality of most stage/film/anime settings. I am troubled that I find noir more realistic, but perhaps I just need to clean up more often!
@@icollectstories5702 See that's the thing. I usually don't like cynicism in stories at all. I'm a hope-punk sort of guy for sure 99/100. However, Bebop is genius and a classic for a reason even someone like who wouldn't usually want anything to do with it can recognize it for what it is.
It's just a question of: Are the noodles gluten free & affordable; Do your space friends read Anais Nin, Bukowski, or Hemingway; Are they hiring engineers? The Bebopverse is on Earth a lot like Appleseed [The Manga,] & to be more fair colonial-Bop is more like Earth in the late 60s & 70s, just with tech. If Appleseed, Ghost In The Shell & Bebop is on the same continuum, it just wouldn't always be *that bad,* just especially ugly when a Syndicate member takes political office...
Plus! No extra-terrestials...Expanse does end up having very subtle alien artifacts but no direct contact discovered. I personally love Hard Sci-fi with the absence of Aliens or if there are then they are only hinted at such a mysterious distant approach like 2001 A Space Odyssey.
@@sebastiantravis9406yep it’s the vast unknown universe that makes this type of sci-fi compelling and frightening and facilitating because humanity is just I blip on the vastness of the universe.
And the actual Energy released in that Explosion is what killed most people, not the debris. In fact, almost everyone on the side of Earth that was facing the Moon was immediately killed by this explosion of energy.
Well there are shows like Firefly and Expanse that do fit into that same style of world building. But I do get you. A more in-depth look at this setting would be cool.
A series with a grown up Ed still wreaking havoc in the spaceways could work. And somehow, Einie being a datadog made him virtually immortal, so we'll never be without his fuzzy butt.
I just love the Bebop crew more or less accidentally helps solve the mystery of what happened and why but are too absorbed in their own story to realize
@@mizz1414 sure the anime is better, but this is its own thing , i take it like, Live-action universe, or the Anime-universe.. you can't expect things to be exactly the same in either universe.. also there are 4 different versions for U.S consumption .. so which anime did you watch?
Carol and Tuesday also takes place in the same universe as Bebop. It depict Mars as not fully terraformed, but still habitable even outside of major urban centers. Not lush or ideal, but survivable. However, terraforming instillations must be kept operational at all time. Failure of even one facility won't mean life and death instantly, but it will cause temperature to plummet in the location it supports. So like Miami suddenly getting the weather of Anchorage.
Yeah, if I remember correctly, C&T actually takes place _before_ Cowboy Bebop by nearly fifteen years, and while the gate incident isn’t brought up all that often, the status of Earth and the people remaining there being referred to as refugees really says a lot about Earth’s situation.
Oooh, thank you for this. I'm rewatching the anime after seeing the Netflix adaptation and it's nice to go back to the original worldbuilding. Tech in the anime is much more grounded, while the live-action version has generic sci-fi force fields to keep the atmospheres in, and artificial gravity is the same kind of magic as in Star Wars and Trek instead of centrifugal force like the anime depicted so beautifully. I guess it would've made things much more expensive if they attempted the gravitational accuracy in live-action, though. Ah well…
It really wouldn't have for the most part, as the anime obfuscated most of it with proper scene framing, which the show would have done. Frankly, the more I hear about the show the happier I am I skipped it.
It has promise, but spends too much time focusing on and expanding minor characters (poorly). Also, the serialized nature of the Live Action series, as opposed to the Anime's more episodic approach, means the series has an obsession with tying events and characters together with the main plot which actually makes its universe feel smaller and less appealing than its inspiration. Also, the dialogue tends to swing from cringe to fanfic levels of amateur writing. That said, if you haven't seen the anime then it could be a fun little distraction for you. Otherwise, just stick to the original.
Love that you're covering the setting of one of my favourite ever animated show's. (and movie). I'll probably never watch the live action series however.
Didn't expect to see bebop represented here, but Im certainly not complaining. They touch on the hyperspace gate accident and other historically significant events in the original but like a lot of things they don't dwell on it that much and leave a lot to be interpreted by the viewer. I would've absolutely loved a video like this back in the day, it would've saved me a lot of time trying to piece everything together. Funny how, why and when things suddenly become relevant again. In my mind bebop was over a long time ago, but videos like this and the new show have proven me wrong. And there are times when being proven wrong is the best thing that could happen. So thanks again and keep up the great work. And I'll see you next time space cowboy.
It always struck me as a bit weird that Earth was just left to slowly die, one of the easiest sources of the materials you'd need to build orbital mirrors to use would be Luna. And with all those rocks thrown into orbit around Earth you wouldn't even need to ship the material off the surface. It would be cheap, it would cool the planet off, you'd actually use the source of those deadly meteor rains to build them, and if you went double duty you could make solar collectors instead of just mirrors. So to reiterate, they have everything they need to not just fix Earth but also make money off the catastrophe just sitting around in orbit, and they don't use it despite having space ships and being used to working in space?
There are a few reasons for that: - The whole population of the solar system is propably < 1 billion. Splittered to heck. So not enough resources for a large undertaking - Earths gravity is high and the atmosphere is dense. It is a terrible place to ship goods off, if you got low gravity moons and asteroids - You have to look out for asteroids 24/7/365. A lot more then everywhere else. - The biggest asset - space to live on - is pretty useless with such a low population. And again, spsce rocks are bad for habitation - It is cheaper to build new habitats on existing planetoids. Also better connected.
Or maybe someone is infact doing something but not telling anyone. maybe a remnant of the old earth government that is allowing people to think its dying but are actually working to save it for their own use later.
Most of the other planets have a livable environment but not exactly ideal and they are mainly controlled ether by criminal or industrial groups with a thin illusion of government. If earth was made habitable it would have a significant amount of population and resources not dedicated to survival. Becoming the dominant industrial and military power.
The composition of the moon is very similar to Earth's crust: high in silicates and low in metals. You could probably structure silicates to be reflective, but I think it would absorb more energy than it reflected, which would make earth hotter. I would suspect the debris in orbit would already be doing just that. Cleaning up zillions of rocks moving at orbital velocity is very difficult and dangerous. I can't imagine being able to catch them without risking annihilation every second. This is Kessler Syndrome times a billion. If you have orbital capability, it's probably less risky to build on the frontier elsewhere. The tech used in Bebop, is, of course, fictional and inconsistent. So whether or not we agree upon what is realistic has no bearing on the show. But it you want to think about how dire the situation on earth would be, look up Kessler Syndrome.
Thank you for this breakdown on the "BE-BOP Cowboy" universe. I only started watching it this week and have enjoyed the series, yet I had no clue on the background for this sci-fi universe.
The lore of Cowboy Bebop is great. Just wish the Anime had a few more episodes to establish more of it. It’s by Sunrise so I imagine some of the depiction of the SciFi is related to Gundam.
@@pills- Actually! It’s not even the same medium let alone be the same genre. This Netflix’s Cowboy Bebop is the Tokusatsu adaptation of the 1998 anime. Anime and Tokusatsu are mediums.
I think I've read before that the moon gate accident wasn't merely a failed gate, but that the accident twisted hyperspace in a way which made the rest of the gates possible
That was excellent. I loved the anime as a kid... hunting down fansubs back in the day... Then it showed up on ... I think Adult Swim... anyway, this was nice. As a kid, none of these tidbits really sunk in, but now I get to know the details. Thanks
Thank you so much for this video explained everything I needed to know. Everyone else was complaining about how the remake was different than the anime and how that offended them as weeaboos. You got straight to the point and were clear.
A very interresting Video. Thank you. It's been a whilr since I saw the Anime. Maybe I should make a rewatch. It's one of the best Series and Soundtrack I know .
I always thought the gates were rings sitting in space all the way from A to Z and they either accelerated you or compressed space. So during construction you need to take these rings out into space and it's normal slow speed, but once they're all in place the cost and speed to go from A to Z is reasonable
a big mistake is that the gates are not fastern that ligth the are slower that ligth but realy fast
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The relative positions of planet change constantly. Sometimes Mars is relatively close, sometimes it's on the other side of the Sun. There couldn't be set lanes made out of rings.
Sounds like the Ingame Mainframe has really been affected by the chip shortage. I feel your pain, man. Good video, lots of in-depth info about the Bebopiverse I'd never picked up.
Nothing in the anime or live action says the hyperspace gates are FTL. They take hours to get from one place to another, so I think they just get you really fast quickly but don't break the light barrier.
I never accepted the time frame of the beebop series. Set in roughly the 2070s, the colonised world of the Jupiter moons, Mars and in-between seem far too run down for any to have been colonised within the 70 year span from the original anime to the time the series is set (1990s-2070s). You have cars that look like junkyards in a neighbour’s backyard, cities and towns with buildings that are slums and all horribly dirt and grime infested and in severe need to maintenance and even colonising the moons and Mars itself would take centuries. Whenever I watch the anime, I prefer to put the year ahead at least 1,000 years to account for these inconsistencies. And the level of hate people throw at the live adaptation of the anime is beyond me - even people who have never watched the live adaptation hate it and even refuse to give it a chance. To those people, I say - get knackered.
The anime is a little more hard scifi than the Netflix version, but they've done pretty good at both consistently being the same world. (Feeling like the same world. I.e. cowboy bebop, as they're are clearly not the same continuity)
@@chrisrogers7105 ngl, with the except on of one thing really (end of the last episode, if you've seen the show, you know what I mean)- the Netflix series isn't that bad, as long as one is willing to see it as its own thing and not expect a slavish adaptation of Cowboy Bebop. Imo, the things that were changed- i.e. certain characters being less 90s eye candy, certain things having to be changed for real world practicality, and the fact this was produced during the pandemic, it's pretty good. And then I do feel some of the storytelling choices are improvements, especially Julia's arc. But I will freely admit, it's not the anime, and as a direct carbon copy of the original- it's horrible. But I'm willing to look past the parts where it isnt slavishly accurate to the original, because to me as long as Yoko Kanno is there, the Seatbelts perform Tank! And Spike Spiegel's walk is just right, I'm happy.
@@TheGreyTurtleEntertainment this is how i view all live action's, reboots, and remakes. Watch them as something standalone, don't compare to the originals, usually you will never be able to see it in a good light otherwise, (although i have seen some good live actions of anime - ruroni kenshin) i still have to fully watch the netflix version but initial takes might be a bit clouded as spike just doesnt feel as much of a cool cat bad ass as the original English VA (Steve Blum's voice),
It sounds like the Belters in Cowboy Bebop actually have it better off by living small-town semi-safe space lives, and the Inners actually have a lot of underclasses bad guy tones. Wow. There's just no winning for humans in science fiction space stuff, ain't there? lol
The live-action is not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. Yes, it is a bit woke and the acting isn't top shelf. Bit if you like an action packed, cheesy, 70s style cop show you're in for a treat.
> a bit woke Bro, if anything, the Netflix series is LESS woke than the original, like how they change Jet's backstory from "quit the police force because the entire department was thoroughly corrupt" to "left because a single bad apple framed him for corruption"
Except I didn't watch Bebob for 70s Buddy Cop, I watched it because it's a Noir show. Thats what bugs me the most about it. It was Noir, the entire thing was steeped in the tropes and stylings of Noir and you change it to anything else deeply undermines the entire premise of the story.
Long Short: Some scientists developed a way to phase matter and create a hyperspace corridor that lets things inside travel ftl, then they realized it had a problem and told big corporation to not turn it on Big corporation turned it on. Moon Boom Everybody gtfo earth using the new gate lanes parts of the various planets were teraformed only partly Everybody flies around with a pretty cavalier attitude towards space as a result, so like fey rides around in a tiny glass sphere wearing basically a bikini
I need to revist Bebop at some point, just have to be in the mood to get depressed ;) also carole and tuesday which is actually in the same universe, tho i only seen a little bit of that one.
Because I'm older and because I have a brain the size of a planet, I am the only person who remembers the "before-time," when the possessive of a word ending in "s", like Mars, was pronounced just the way it was spelled: Mars'. Mars' atmosphere, NOT Mars's atmosphere. If you don't believe me, WHO has ever said, "My parents's bedroom? No one, that's who! Watch pre-2000 movies and TV shows (including Total Recall, if I totally recall correctly)! No one says Mars's. And if SOME people say it, then go back each decade and you'll hear it used less and less.
Most style guides suggest s’ for plural and s’s for singular. So Mars’ would be incorrect as would parents’s. (This comes up a lot in arguments between St James’ and St James’s between publications, even though both are pronounced the same.)
As much as I enjoyed the anime and the live-action show, I always see these types of settings and think to myself: "how can anyone possibly think this is possible in the given time scale?" This is set 50 years in the future and even if we started building a large space station today on the scale they present in the shows, we would probably only be able to finish one or two of those massive space stations in 50 years... let alone all of the colonies on the various planets and planetoids. Just boggles my mind that they have these massive complexes, colonies and everything else with a massively devastated Earth as the backdrop. Even with a fully healthy and hard working planet Earth, humans will probably need hundreds of years to achieve what was seen in the show (think the Expanse). Still, the setting is really cool even if unrealistic when you look at how it all works.
Eh, when you're stuck in space and can't go back to Earth, it's literally try or die. Which probably explains why so many of the environments are makeshift and/or in need of repair in the series. Those are the SUCCESSFUL colonies...
If Chernobyl has taught us anything, if the planet was under constant threat of a rogue kiloton-level airburst daily, humans would GTFO and the place would end up being a preserve. Sure, lots of animals would die on the small scale, but populations would survive and adapt. Especially without humans eating up the biome. Oh I want to add that if the Earth was left a hostile jewel while the humans turned elsewhere would be a nice history, narratively I mean!
The one problem I have with anime is that it is way too optimistic when it comes to construction. There is no way all of that off world construction and terraforming could occur by 2100. Maybe by Star Trek's time but not much sooner than that.
I always menially fudge the dates to think year zero was something else like being the first flight of the wright brothers or the first time humanity flew into space.
In my "head canon", the world of COWBOY BEBOP is what the Vulcans found circa 2063 CE. With their help, much of Earth and Luna were restored to some sort of normalcy, even as warp engine development began to over-take the use of the hyper-space gates.
I thoroughly enjoyed the live-action; even if it doesn’t retain some of the merits of the original content, it works a lot of other stuff better while staying mostly loyal to its source
I do not think they use centrifugal force for gravity. Nor do they use acceleration like in the expanse. They do seem to have some form of gravity generators. But it is never explained.
@@hawkticus_history_corner But they do not sleep on the ring. And often leave a lot of stuff on the table - stuff that would float around in 0-G and become projectiles during any maneuvers.
That would probably be centripetal force, not centrifugal. The force is transferred in the pulling of spokes of the wheel as it spins, not the pushing of bodies outwards. The bodies would feel an apparent centrifugal force, but the force itself is centripetal (if I’m remembering my teacher correctly, it’s been a few years :)
Bebop is one of those really cool sci-fi settings that I would never want to live anywhere near. Everything looks dirty, most people are poor, crime and corruption are rampant beyond belief and everything seems like it's being held together by liquor and cigarette smoke.
It is in the style of film noir.
@@icollectstories5702 Oh no, yea I get that and it's totally badass. This isn't a quality judgement on the series itself, far from it. I wouldn't wanna live in MOST noir settings.
@@samwill7259 Just pointing out that if you like this sort of stuff, there's a lot more out there.
Noir tends toward cynicism and dystopianism, and its clutter contrasts with the sterility and simple functionality of most stage/film/anime settings. I am troubled that I find noir more realistic, but perhaps I just need to clean up more often!
@@icollectstories5702 See that's the thing. I usually don't like cynicism in stories at all. I'm a hope-punk sort of guy for sure 99/100. However, Bebop is genius and a classic for a reason even someone like who wouldn't usually want anything to do with it can recognize it for what it is.
It's just a question of: Are the noodles gluten free & affordable; Do your space friends read Anais Nin, Bukowski, or Hemingway; Are they hiring engineers? The Bebopverse is on Earth a lot like Appleseed [The Manga,] & to be more fair colonial-Bop is more like Earth in the late 60s & 70s, just with tech. If Appleseed, Ghost In The Shell & Bebop is on the same continuum, it just wouldn't always be *that bad,* just especially ugly when a Syndicate member takes political office...
The universe of Cowboy Bebop is such an inspired science fiction setting. I'm sure "The Expanse" and "Firefly" took more than a few hints from it.
Plus! No extra-terrestials...Expanse does end up having very subtle alien artifacts but no direct contact discovered. I personally love Hard Sci-fi with the absence of Aliens or if there are then they are only hinted at such a mysterious distant approach like 2001 A Space Odyssey.
@@sebastiantravis9406yep it’s the vast unknown universe that makes this type of sci-fi compelling and frightening and facilitating because humanity is just I blip on the vastness of the universe.
The moon was broken up when the Vogons hyperspace bypass improbably was constructed with flaws.
And the actual Energy released in that Explosion is what killed most people, not the debris. In fact, almost everyone on the side of Earth that was facing the Moon was immediately killed by this explosion of energy.
Hey I know this reference lol
@@micaiahfonken then your a Hoopy Frood.
I’d enjoy seeing a Cowboy Bebop spinoff sometime. I think there’s enough going on in this setting to warrant one
AFAIK Shinichirō Watanabe has made a few series that either might or definitely exist in the same universe as Cowboy Bebop
Well there are shows like Firefly and Expanse that do fit into that same style of world building. But I do get you. A more in-depth look at this setting would be cool.
A series with a grown up Ed still wreaking havoc in the spaceways could work.
And somehow, Einie being a datadog made him virtually immortal, so we'll never be without his fuzzy butt.
It's called Carole and Tuesday
Anime version not that live action cluster#$%$#
I just love the Bebop crew more or less accidentally helps solve the mystery of what happened and why but are too absorbed in their own story to realize
One of my best friends loved this anime. Rest his soul. Killed during a robbery. Every time I see the show or title I think of him.
Watched the anime a bit ago, have no intention of seeing the live action, but it's cool to see you go in depth on it.
i suggest you do see the live action, its surprising how good it is ..
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daniel LEVY we're ok on that
@@daniellevy4104 As someone who just finished the anime...
no... no it's not...
@@mizz1414 sure the anime is better, but this is its own thing , i take it like, Live-action universe, or the Anime-universe.. you can't expect things to be exactly the same in either universe.. also there are 4 different versions for U.S consumption .. so which anime did you watch?
Carol and Tuesday also takes place in the same universe as Bebop. It depict Mars as not fully terraformed, but still habitable even outside of major urban centers. Not lush or ideal, but survivable. However, terraforming instillations must be kept operational at all time. Failure of even one facility won't mean life and death instantly, but it will cause temperature to plummet in the location it supports. So like Miami suddenly getting the weather of Anchorage.
Space Dandy is set there as well^^
@@jupamoers is it? wow! had no idea (but it felt/looked similar to CB)
so... it's like Red Faction and their "oxygen generators" (RF is pretty dope... the SyFy adaptation not so much >.>)
Yeah, if I remember correctly, C&T actually takes place _before_ Cowboy Bebop by nearly fifteen years, and while the gate incident isn’t brought up all that often, the status of Earth and the people remaining there being referred to as refugees really says a lot about Earth’s situation.
Samurai Champloo is the earliest of the timeline
this decades DB Evolution...
😂 facts
Now look into Outlaw Star's universe.
Omgosh, yes, please do!
This ^^ absolutely this.
Yep. More Sunrise
Yes, please 🙏
Yes please!!!
Oooh, thank you for this. I'm rewatching the anime after seeing the Netflix adaptation and it's nice to go back to the original worldbuilding. Tech in the anime is much more grounded, while the live-action version has generic sci-fi force fields to keep the atmospheres in, and artificial gravity is the same kind of magic as in Star Wars and Trek instead of centrifugal force like the anime depicted so beautifully. I guess it would've made things much more expensive if they attempted the gravitational accuracy in live-action, though. Ah well…
It really wouldn't have for the most part, as the anime obfuscated most of it with proper scene framing, which the show would have done.
Frankly, the more I hear about the show the happier I am I skipped it.
Eh, The Expanse can pull off realistic gravity, so they just went lazy with it.
@@hawkticus_history_corner I enjoyed the Netflix adaptation, but yeah, the anime is much better
Some things, animation can just do better and cheaper, like zero-G
@@terongray1019 realistic gravity is EXPENSIVE
The anime is amazing. I hope the live action one lives up to it.
Spoiler
Its shitt
It has promise, but spends too much time focusing on and expanding minor characters (poorly).
Also, the serialized nature of the Live Action series, as opposed to the Anime's more episodic approach, means the series has an obsession with tying events and characters together with the main plot which actually makes its universe feel smaller and less appealing than its inspiration.
Also, the dialogue tends to swing from cringe to fanfic levels of amateur writing.
That said, if you haven't seen the anime then it could be a fun little distraction for you. Otherwise, just stick to the original.
Worse thing was them living poor eine by himself :(
Love that you're covering the setting of one of my favourite ever animated show's. (and movie). I'll probably never watch the live action series however.
I'd say you can tell a lot of people on the staff cared and wanted to closely follow the anime, and you can also tell an executive said 'no'
Cowboy Bebop is a favorite anime of mine. Now I know why Earth was so devastated during the warp-gate establishment.
Easier to remove the orbiting junk than build a jump gate and terraforming distant planets lol
1:41 But you *can* veer out of the passage without dying; you just get irretrievably lost.
See you, space cowboy…
Didn't expect to see bebop represented here, but Im certainly not complaining. They touch on the hyperspace gate accident and other historically significant events in the original but like a lot of things they don't dwell on it that much and leave a lot to be interpreted by the viewer. I would've absolutely loved a video like this back in the day, it would've saved me a lot of time trying to piece everything together. Funny how, why and when things suddenly become relevant again. In my mind bebop was over a long time ago, but videos like this and the new show have proven me wrong. And there are times when being proven wrong is the best thing that could happen. So thanks again and keep up the great work. And I'll see you next time space cowboy.
0:07 watched scifi series that's actually on Netfilx, in the immortal words of Steve Rogers , "I understood that reference" XD
"Nothing good comes from the Earth anymore" - bebop
It always struck me as a bit weird that Earth was just left to slowly die, one of the easiest sources of the materials you'd need to build orbital mirrors to use would be Luna. And with all those rocks thrown into orbit around Earth you wouldn't even need to ship the material off the surface. It would be cheap, it would cool the planet off, you'd actually use the source of those deadly meteor rains to build them, and if you went double duty you could make solar collectors instead of just mirrors.
So to reiterate, they have everything they need to not just fix Earth but also make money off the catastrophe just sitting around in orbit, and they don't use it despite having space ships and being used to working in space?
There are a few reasons for that:
- The whole population of the solar system is propably < 1 billion. Splittered to heck. So not enough resources for a large undertaking
- Earths gravity is high and the atmosphere is dense. It is a terrible place to ship goods off, if you got low gravity moons and asteroids
- You have to look out for asteroids 24/7/365. A lot more then everywhere else.
- The biggest asset - space to live on - is pretty useless with such a low population. And again, spsce rocks are bad for habitation
- It is cheaper to build new habitats on existing planetoids. Also better connected.
Or maybe someone is infact doing something but not telling anyone. maybe a remnant of the old earth government that is allowing people to think its dying but are actually working to save it for their own use later.
It's all about the corporations. Earth has laws. Space does not...provided you don't let anyone develop a strong government.
Most of the other planets have a livable environment but not exactly ideal and they are mainly controlled ether by criminal or industrial groups with a thin illusion of government.
If earth was made habitable it would have a significant amount of population and resources not dedicated to survival. Becoming the dominant industrial and military power.
The composition of the moon is very similar to Earth's crust: high in silicates and low in metals. You could probably structure silicates to be reflective, but I think it would absorb more energy than it reflected, which would make earth hotter. I would suspect the debris in orbit would already be doing just that.
Cleaning up zillions of rocks moving at orbital velocity is very difficult and dangerous. I can't imagine being able to catch them without risking annihilation every second. This is Kessler Syndrome times a billion.
If you have orbital capability, it's probably less risky to build on the frontier elsewhere.
The tech used in Bebop, is, of course, fictional and inconsistent. So whether or not we agree upon what is realistic has no bearing on the show. But it you want to think about how dire the situation on earth would be, look up Kessler Syndrome.
Omg bebop content?! Yes! More please sir! The anime is one of my faves but, the live action version can stay un-watched in my home.
What's wrong with it?
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 it’s not my cup of tea. And that’s ok.
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 cool username btw.
Thank you for this breakdown on the "BE-BOP Cowboy" universe. I only started watching it this week and have enjoyed the series, yet I had no clue on the background for this sci-fi universe.
The lore of Cowboy Bebop is great. Just wish the Anime had a few more episodes to establish more of it.
It’s by Sunrise so I imagine some of the depiction of the SciFi is related to Gundam.
Knowing the high quality of the series, budget constraints probably have condensed what might have been a longer series
You can also watch a spinoff (for lack of a better term) called Carol and Tuesday. Not the same genre, but the same universe.
@@pills-
Actually! It’s not even the same medium let alone be the same genre.
This Netflix’s Cowboy Bebop is the Tokusatsu adaptation of the 1998 anime.
Anime and Tokusatsu are mediums.
I think I've read before that the moon gate accident wasn't merely a failed gate, but that the accident twisted hyperspace in a way which made the rest of the gates possible
That was excellent. I loved the anime as a kid... hunting down fansubs back in the day... Then it showed up on ... I think Adult Swim... anyway, this was nice. As a kid, none of these tidbits really sunk in, but now I get to know the details. Thanks
I love how the Pierrot's shield is essentially an Atmospheric Barrier, but reversed.
Thank you so much for this video explained everything I needed to know. Everyone else was complaining about how the remake was different than the anime and how that offended them as weeaboos. You got straight to the point and were clear.
A very interresting Video. Thank you. It's been a whilr since I saw the Anime. Maybe I should make a rewatch. It's one of the best Series and Soundtrack I know .
Thanks for sharing this. I am loving both original and live adaptation show. See you Space Cowboy 🤠
Okay i grab a Netflix subscription soon... Need to watch this. Love the original.
so the anime is set in 2071 but the netflix show pushed it forward another hundred years and is set in 2171
_every decade has its spider-man_ ;)
Japan projecting its socioeconomic dystopia through anime
I always thought the gates were rings sitting in space all the way from A to Z and they either accelerated you or compressed space. So during construction you need to take these rings out into space and it's normal slow speed, but once they're all in place the cost and speed to go from A to Z is reasonable
a big mistake is that the gates are not fastern that ligth the are slower that ligth but realy fast
The relative positions of planet change constantly. Sometimes Mars is relatively close, sometimes it's on the other side of the Sun. There couldn't be set lanes made out of rings.
Everyone knows it was because of the gate accident…..
There goes Rick , Rock'n Again!
Sounds like the Ingame Mainframe has really been affected by the chip shortage. I feel your pain, man.
Good video, lots of in-depth info about the Bebopiverse I'd never picked up.
>watched the Netflix adaptation
I'm so sorry.
Old cyberpunk anime lowkey have the best genre and anime world or story
Star trek lore guy posting about other sci-fi i like? Yuuuuuuus
Oh man...this adaptation though....
The lore on the other hands🙏
Nothing in the anime or live action says the hyperspace gates are FTL. They take hours to get from one place to another, so I think they just get you really fast quickly but don't break the light barrier.
they are not flt you are rigth
I waited for that. Thank you, it was worth it!
Makes me wonder if there is a stellaris mod for this as an origin
Thank you or thanks to the person who did your subtitles
So good I watched it twice
this series is how you do sci-fi
Sometimes I like to think cowboy bebop and the expanse are in the same universe w a few decades apart
Nicely done!
At least Yoko Kanno, the music composer, came back
Made a guitar cover video for the ending theme, The Real Folk Blues
The Bebop universe is eons ahead from us :D Hyperspace travel in the year 2021...this is now
they still use betamax
I never accepted the time frame of the beebop series. Set in roughly the 2070s, the colonised world of the Jupiter moons, Mars and in-between seem far too run down for any to have been colonised within the 70 year span from the original anime to the time the series is set (1990s-2070s). You have cars that look like junkyards in a neighbour’s backyard, cities and towns with buildings that are slums and all horribly dirt and grime infested and in severe need to maintenance and even colonising the moons and Mars itself would take centuries. Whenever I watch the anime, I prefer to put the year ahead at least 1,000 years to account for these inconsistencies.
And the level of hate people throw at the live adaptation of the anime is beyond me - even people who have never watched the live adaptation hate it and even refuse to give it a chance. To those people, I say - get knackered.
Unexpected video topic but awesome content nonetheless.
I read in some trivia that you could see an image of satyr from satyricon in the cab of the heavy metal queen but I never could.
The anime is a little more hard scifi than the Netflix version, but they've done pretty good at both consistently being the same world.
(Feeling like the same world. I.e. cowboy bebop, as they're are clearly not the same continuity)
I feel like this is the first positive thing I’ve seen about the Netflix adaptation and it’s refreshing tbh
@@chrisrogers7105 ngl, with the except on of one thing really (end of the last episode, if you've seen the show, you know what I mean)- the Netflix series isn't that bad, as long as one is willing to see it as its own thing and not expect a slavish adaptation of Cowboy Bebop.
Imo, the things that were changed- i.e. certain characters being less 90s eye candy, certain things having to be changed for real world practicality, and the fact this was produced during the pandemic, it's pretty good.
And then I do feel some of the storytelling choices are improvements, especially Julia's arc.
But I will freely admit, it's not the anime, and as a direct carbon copy of the original- it's horrible.
But I'm willing to look past the parts where it isnt slavishly accurate to the original, because to me as long as Yoko Kanno is there, the Seatbelts perform Tank! And Spike Spiegel's walk is just right, I'm happy.
@@TheGreyTurtleEntertainment this is how i view all live action's, reboots, and remakes. Watch them as something standalone, don't compare to the originals, usually you will never be able to see it in a good light otherwise, (although i have seen some good live actions of anime - ruroni kenshin) i still have to fully watch the netflix version but initial takes might be a bit clouded as spike just doesnt feel as much of a cool cat bad ass as the original English VA (Steve Blum's voice),
I see the Netflix adaption as an alternate universe take on Bebop. So of course it's different. I can enjoy them both by keeping that in mind.
The Netflix doesn't matter now that it's canceled
I shall start a penal colony on Pluto and name it Rura Penthe.
It sounds like the Belters in Cowboy Bebop actually have it better off by living small-town semi-safe space lives, and the Inners actually have a lot of underclasses bad guy tones. Wow. There's just no winning for humans in science fiction space stuff, ain't there? lol
I'll watch cowboy bebop again.
Always find it slightly funny when UA-camrs only do a video about a series after the live action releases.
Yeah I'll be 95 in 2071 if I live to see it.
you know, we all watched this shit for Ein
Neil deGrasse Tyson used his god like power to completely erase Pluto from existence
I made an involuntary "ooh" sound when I saw this in the queue. I'm not even a cowboy bebop fan, I just thought it was very novel for the channel.
Centrifuge forces are just apparent forces ;-)
What a coincidence, I just recently started the anime.
The live-action is not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. Yes, it is a bit woke and the acting isn't top shelf. Bit if you like an action packed, cheesy, 70s style cop show you're in for a treat.
> a bit woke
Bro, if anything, the Netflix series is LESS woke than the original, like how they change Jet's backstory from "quit the police force because the entire department was thoroughly corrupt" to "left because a single bad apple framed him for corruption"
Except I didn't watch Bebob for 70s Buddy Cop, I watched it because it's a Noir show.
Thats what bugs me the most about it. It was Noir, the entire thing was steeped in the tropes and stylings of Noir and you change it to anything else deeply undermines the entire premise of the story.
I never got into Cowboy BeBop. You should do a series on Gundam Wing or any other of the Gundam shows. Oh, and Outlaw Star.
They have multiple star systems
Do one for OUTLAW STAR!!
> I watched the netflix remake
Oh no... oh please no... why...
Next time you should do a video about Gundam 00 or Space Battleship Yamato.
Can you do one of these for the Netflix Lost in Space?
Obviously, Eggman did it and the droplets destoryed the Earth
Long Short: Some scientists developed a way to phase matter and create a hyperspace corridor that lets things inside travel ftl, then they realized it had a problem and told big corporation to not turn it on
Big corporation turned it on.
Moon Boom
Everybody gtfo earth using the new gate lanes
parts of the various planets were teraformed only partly
Everybody flies around with a pretty cavalier attitude towards space as a result, so like fey rides around in a tiny glass sphere wearing basically a bikini
You know with that technology they can reterran form earth its even been proven enough advanced technology can terrain form earth if it was damage.
I've never seen the anime, but I thoroughly enjoyed the live action series! Loved the characters, especially Spike. Great video, thank you!
Havent seen the live action but i know the anime is superior
I've watched both and they each have their charms. Time well spent in my opinion.
I HIGHLY recommend the anime, especially if you enjoyed the live-action. Hell, I'd recommend it if you hated the live-action as well :D
Awsome vidro
I've only seen a few episodes of the original amie.
It's not half bad to say the least.
I need to revist Bebop at some point, just have to be in the mood to get depressed ;)
also carole and tuesday which is actually in the same universe, tho i only seen a little bit of that one.
The way you speak is similar to Josh Strife Hayes
The Netflix adaptation actively takes away from almost everything that made the anime great. It feels soulless.
it felt like watching a child trying to wear its parent's clothes.
Shame the movie wasn’t on Netflix too
attempt #9 plz make the cultural index for The Sheliak Corporate.
Netflix' version of "Cowboy Bebop" is as close to the Anime as Pluto is to Earth!;)
_cool boi beep boop_
Something I've always wondered. Are Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star and maybe even Trigun set in the same universe?
no
Trigun is set in a binary star system so no
@@sharar5300 universe is a big place.
@@davitto01 true
Because I'm older and because I have a brain the size of a planet, I am the only person who remembers the "before-time," when the possessive of a word ending in "s", like Mars, was pronounced just the way it was spelled: Mars'. Mars' atmosphere, NOT Mars's atmosphere. If you don't believe me, WHO has ever said, "My parents's bedroom? No one, that's who! Watch pre-2000 movies and TV shows (including Total Recall, if I totally recall correctly)! No one says Mars's. And if SOME people say it, then go back each decade and you'll hear it used less and less.
Most style guides suggest s’ for plural and s’s for singular. So Mars’ would be incorrect as would parents’s. (This comes up a lot in arguments between St James’ and St James’s between publications, even though both are pronounced the same.)
As much as I enjoyed the anime and the live-action show, I always see these types of settings and think to myself: "how can anyone possibly think this is possible in the given time scale?" This is set 50 years in the future and even if we started building a large space station today on the scale they present in the shows, we would probably only be able to finish one or two of those massive space stations in 50 years... let alone all of the colonies on the various planets and planetoids. Just boggles my mind that they have these massive complexes, colonies and everything else with a massively devastated Earth as the backdrop. Even with a fully healthy and hard working planet Earth, humans will probably need hundreds of years to achieve what was seen in the show (think the Expanse). Still, the setting is really cool even if unrealistic when you look at how it all works.
probsbli becausi it is like we go from bliplens to moon landind in les time
Eh, when you're stuck in space and can't go back to Earth, it's literally try or die. Which probably explains why so many of the environments are makeshift and/or in need of repair in the series. Those are the SUCCESSFUL colonies...
I've just been wondering how the outer colonies have so much sunshine. Unless they have artificial suns, it's not going to be that bright out there.
@@CameronHuff Maybe space mirrors that focus sunshine that would otherwise miss the colony.
Earth was cancelled.
so was the live action "adaptation" (=no season 2) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My dudes, I come with one simple question. Is the live action good?
I enjoyed it. Not as much as the original show, but I'm glad I watched it. Seems to be quite divisive, though.
The live action adaptation is good on its own merits. It keeps true to the setting and has its own charms.
If you never watched the anime. Go enjoy the adaptation. If you loved the anime, the adaptation will just make you sick.
Try out Battletech if you want more human SCI-FI STUFF.
"ewh, humans, gross!" >:D
I've started watching the live action version after watching the anime many years ago. It feels 'odd'.
Covid that’s what happened
If Chernobyl has taught us anything, if the planet was under constant threat of a rogue kiloton-level airburst daily, humans would GTFO and the place would end up being a preserve. Sure, lots of animals would die on the small scale, but populations would survive and adapt. Especially without humans eating up the biome. Oh I want to add that if the Earth was left a hostile jewel while the humans turned elsewhere would be a nice history, narratively I mean!
In 2022.... wait...........
The one problem I have with anime is that it is way too optimistic when it comes to construction. There is no way all of that off world construction and terraforming could occur by 2100. Maybe by Star Trek's time but not much sooner than that.
I always menially fudge the dates to think year zero was something else like being the first flight of the wright brothers or the first time humanity flew into space.
In my "head canon", the world of COWBOY BEBOP is what the Vulcans found circa 2063 CE. With their help, much of Earth and Luna were restored to some sort of normalcy, even as warp engine development began to over-take the use of the hyper-space gates.
I thoroughly enjoyed the live-action; even if it doesn’t retain some of the merits of the original content, it works a lot of other stuff better while staying mostly loyal to its source
I do not think they use centrifugal force for gravity.
Nor do they use acceleration like in the expanse.
They do seem to have some form of gravity generators. But it is never explained.
It does seem to be centrifugal, at least on the Bebob, you can see Spike walking on the ring in a few shots.
@@hawkticus_history_corner But they do not sleep on the ring. And often leave a lot of stuff on the table - stuff that would float around in 0-G and become projectiles during any maneuvers.
@@christopherg2347 I always took it that the room was spinning with the ring.
Maybe that's not right but that's how I took it
That would probably be centripetal force, not centrifugal. The force is transferred in the pulling of spokes of the wheel as it spins, not the pushing of bodies outwards. The bodies would feel an apparent centrifugal force, but the force itself is centripetal (if I’m remembering my teacher correctly, it’s been a few years :)
It wasn't as bad as i thought the spin off.
Sure... it was not the origional.
But it had some good moments.