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  • @rogerwhittle2078
    @rogerwhittle2078 3 роки тому +263

    I waited with baited breath for every day of the 4014 restoration, wondering why, when it was corporately funded and staffed (ha-ha) it was taking so long. As an engineer, I couldn't condone what happened to 3985 and , to some extent, 844, so I consoled myself with Ed' and his crew being meticulous to a fault. When it was announced 4014 was being converted to oil firing, I thought; "That's a good idea - coal is so filthy and destructive, it'll mean 4014 will last longer still." But oh, the howls of rage and self interest! I remember one fan said he could never look at 4014 ever again, because it should be COAL! (Changes in the law in Britain might make ALL our steam engines illegal - hasn't happened yet, but it might. If burning coal without fluid beds, flue filters, special ash treatment and so on becomes law [and it still might] that would mean up to £1 million modifications to each British steam loco or........£100,000 to make them oil fired. Guess what is going to happen?
    As for the diesel, so many crocodile tears have been wept about diesels being in steam hauled consists, the whining gets irritating. Many, not all, of our mainline steam excursions have a diesel, usually in trail at the rear of the train and very often a 'preserved' (no longer in routine use classes) loco. They are usually there to provide dynamic braking and train heating PLUS; the built in 'get you home' service on failure of the steam loco. Because the locos are not in use 24/7 for two or three weeks in a rotation, they tend to suffer 'cycle' failures and be less reliable. Also, in Britain, for the most part, tender engines are not permitted to run tender first on the main line. They have to run at 75mph to stay out of the damn way and, if there is no turning facility (mostly a 'Y' nowadays) at their destination, the diesel has to 'head up the train' on the way home. All perfectly logical, but the howls of anguish are always loud and piteous. I wish they would shut up.
    We all love steam locomotives and we must always count ourselves lucky there are ways of running them. You Americans are particularly lucky a massive - impossible for purely volunteers - project like 4014, is funded and fully endorsed by the railroad Big Boy belongs on. I have never heard Ed' Dickens lament the conversion of 4014 to oil firing, auxiliary tenders, head end power cars and A FECKIN' DIESEL (even numbered 4015!) It is the way steam engines - which are dirty, oily, temperamental, thirsty astonishingly heavy on manpower - MUST be operated today. Stop whining, count blessings and watch the pretty engine!

    • @daleeasternbrat816
      @daleeasternbrat816 3 роки тому +20

      Running all over the country on coal would be the next thing to impossible. There is nothing wrong about using No. 5 fuel oil. ( used motor oil.) Is a standard way to operate. Lots of steam locomotives were built that way originally.

    • @PowerTrain611
      @PowerTrain611 3 роки тому +14

      Well thought out and well worded. This is true on so many levels, we all need to consider ourselves lucky. Anything can change at any given minute and everything will go away with the blink of an eye. Let's take solice in the fact that a locomotive nobody thought would ever see itself under steam again has beaten all odds to live again more than 60 years later.

    • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
      @jed-henrywitkowski6470 3 роки тому +5

      Wow. I appreciate your knowledge of British steam locks and the environmental regs, that you all got to deal with.
      Why are steam locos driven from the center?
      It seems like a maintenance nightmare.
      Also, you seem to have some insight on two particular locomotives (US). What happened with them?
      I was kind of saddened when Big Boy was converted to burn oil. However, I was happy to learn that this was not UPs first rodeo, and actual converted an SP* loco back in 1950s and she's still going strong in SoCal!
      Union Pacific purchased Southern Pacific in the 1980s. So, technically SP converted their loco.

    • @Juscz
      @Juscz 3 роки тому +5

      @@daleeasternbrat816, and, if I'm not mistaken, one of the Big Boys, # 4005, was converted to oil burning (somewhat unsuccessfully) in 1945. It was eventually converted back to coal. So there is some historical justification for oil conversion of one of these behemoths.

    • @nostall123productions
      @nostall123productions 3 роки тому +3

      Amen To That! People are so whiny when it comes to things like oil conversions.

  • @CrazyPetez
    @CrazyPetez 3 роки тому +154

    Union Pacific deserves out thanks for their continued support of keeping 4014 running.

    • @andreweppink4498
      @andreweppink4498 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah. They didn't cheap out. Which is admirable.

    • @jaegertiger384
      @jaegertiger384 2 роки тому +4

      They certainly do. It is such an iconoclastic locomotive that is a serious piece of heritage.

  • @taylormccardle9504
    @taylormccardle9504 3 роки тому +119

    As far as the diesel is concerned, like I always say with a career in the fire service, it’s better to have the extra equipment and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Especially in this situation. Hats off to crew!

  • @smeagolplaysgames4517
    @smeagolplaysgames4517 3 роки тому +145

    Damn, a low water situation on a steam locomotive is always scary to say the least, especially with an injector that isn't working properly. Glad the crew had that diesel at their disposal, absolutely agree that despite what "steam purists" might say, it is absolutely necessary for mainline operations in this day and age.

    • @renegadeoflife87
      @renegadeoflife87 3 роки тому +17

      I wouldn't say absolutely necessary, but certainly convenient to have. It would be plenty possible for UP to set tank cars of water on sidings along 4014's path as insurance against situations like this. Where the diesel helps is being able to move the train off the mainline if there is an actual problem.

    • @bouffant-girl
      @bouffant-girl 3 роки тому +7

      The two tanker cars behind the the tender are filled with water. The train has to be stopped to transfer the water to the tender.

  • @jayfmiller
    @jayfmiller 3 роки тому +69

    This shows how difficult it is to run steam when 99.9% of the steam infrastructure was removed from all the lines. My hat is off to UP and the other roads that take such pains to preserve some traveling steam motive power.

    • @jm10014
      @jm10014 2 роки тому

      I feel a great pain in my heart thinking about the huge backstep they took removing steam infrastructure, 100 years of progress gone in a matter of a few years

    • @aaron-prime117
      @aaron-prime117 Рік тому

      It’s no surprise if this ever happened on occasion or out of the blue but the railroad companies along with the UP that had great steamers back in the day did it just do it for themselves though they go to these pains because it’s also part of what the public wanted to see him besides think back to the time when the 844 helped a stalled diesel freight up a gradient that video gave inspiration show dedication to the steam era. Plus looking at the video with the big boy she probably lost a lot of water because of her injector overflow system. 3985 had one of those to and it was used to wash oil out the chest cavity in one of her piston cylinder.

  • @randallfawc7501
    @randallfawc7501 3 роки тому +38

    the fact they were able to keep going by using the diesel is a result of great planning and foresight by Ed and the steam crew. They are to be applauded for their efforts!!!

    • @RickyJr46
      @RickyJr46 3 роки тому +3

      When 4014 visited SoCal in late 2019 we asked Ed about the diesel helpers. He mentioned contingencies such as mechanical problems or needing to conserve 4014's water and/or fuel.

    • @t.bunker2511
      @t.bunker2511 3 роки тому +4

      The lack of Dynamic Braking is a real problem for modern steam locomotives, hence the helper Diesel to lend it's Dynamic Brakes for smoother ride and contribute to train control. Dynamic Brakes can absorb a lot of momentum without taxing the engine or train brakes. Plus addl. helper-power is rarely available these days to push up grades.

    • @ralfie8801
      @ralfie8801 3 роки тому +4

      It's a result of following the rules UP and the FRA set forth for steam operations, one of which is they are required to have dynamic braking. Also, the diesel is carrying the PTC equipment for the time being.
      If you take notice, the trucks on the diesel have been painted silver from the normal gray, also the anti glare panel on the top of its nose has been painted green like they were decades ago. It would be my guess UP 4015 has assumed a permanent role on the steam crew from now on.

  • @cliffordmaxwell9802
    @cliffordmaxwell9802 3 роки тому +24

    I remember climbing around on this sleeping giant when it was on display at the LA county fair grounds in Pomona CA. It was beautiful back then but to see it come back to life through restoration and flying down the tracks is just breath taking thank you so much for bringing this magnificent mechanical marvel back to life. wow!

  • @RippysRails
    @RippysRails 3 роки тому +38

    What a great job overcoming the challenges of running a steam locomotive a long distance in the modern times! Kuddos to the BIG Boy crew and the UP.

  • @raydunakin
    @raydunakin 3 роки тому +27

    What a magnificent machine! I really hope I get the chance to see it in person someday.

    • @jimmellenberger8505
      @jimmellenberger8505 3 роки тому +2

      Got to go see it here in Jefferson City yesterday. Might get up and go watch it leave later this morning. He's a beaut!

    • @oriolesfan7807
      @oriolesfan7807 3 роки тому

      Check out UP Heritage Tour. Has a schedule of stops.

  • @PowerTrain611
    @PowerTrain611 3 роки тому +49

    This might sound a bit over the top here, but with the size of that boiler the big boy is the last locomotive I would want to deal with a low water situation with. Must have been pretty scary.
    Props to Ed and the rest of the crew for handling it well. Critical thinking is a crucial skill in railroading, and it's not something you can teach. Good instincts are learned through years of experience, and Ed has it covered.
    Nobody here was ever in any real danger here with the train is his hands.

    • @renegadeoflife87
      @renegadeoflife87 3 роки тому +14

      In a for-real low water emergency, the crew would have to kill the fire and bottle up the remaining steam and water. Like so there would be no danger of explosion, but it also would not be able to proceed any further than being shunted onto a siding by the diesel helper until a tanker of water arrived so the fire could be safely lit again.
      If the fire was out long enough it would fall out of steam, and need not only the water tankers but a very large air compressor or boiler car Howard Fogg to power the oil burner during steam raising as oil-fired engines cannot start from cold without an external supply of steam or compressed air to run the fuel pump and burner.

  • @deborahcox3214
    @deborahcox3214 3 роки тому +8

    Hubby and I went to see this magnificent train at the whistle stop in Bunkie on Monday. We saw them working on the engine, replace a fitting (?), and water spilling out of what we assumed was the overflow valve. Thanks for this video and explanation, helped us novices understand what we saw.

  • @billwatkins276
    @billwatkins276 3 роки тому +28

    Thanks for the detailed, knowledgeable description Fan Railer. I saw a big steam blow from the fireman's side by the exhaust injector in another video and wondered if something had gone wrong.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому +11

      It's normal for a few seconds when they prime the injector, but the overflow should die way down once the injector actually picks up. If it does not pick up, you will continue to see a lot of water and steam come out the overflow vent.

    • @jaegertiger384
      @jaegertiger384 2 роки тому +1

      Lots of blow... kinda like a human losing a lot of blood. End result is so good.

  • @tootall287
    @tootall287 2 роки тому +9

    The good thing about firing with oil is you can safely "drop the fire" when faced with a low water situation. There was no risk of boiler damage here but a major pain in the ass for UP management and I'm sure Mr. Dickens felt the pressure (pun intended). Injectors are great until they start acting up and then they can quickly become a house of cards tumbling down. My experience has been coal or wood-fired locomotives since 2000 and I've been through some situations that make for great stories around the roundhouse stove but were not so funny at the time.

  • @YurrickLamhfhada
    @YurrickLamhfhada 3 роки тому +17

    I was wondering why they didnt stop in Livonia on Sunday, it's just a shame that that was why. You always hate to see a steam loco have issues like this but Union Pacific's foresight in having that "life raft" in the form of a SD70M is why i have such respect for them. Glad they managed to avoid further problems and I hope their day in Shreveport today will allow them the chance to fend their worries.

  • @darkpepsi
    @darkpepsi 3 роки тому +9

    I remember asking Ed Dickens two years ago in Barstow about having a diesel as an emergency for the 4014. That guy was really cool in answering my question in not only as an emergency but, it also acts as a counter weight since 4014 is “top heavy” which I did not know about that. It made more sense when going down hill on the Cajon Pass with two diesel locomotives for one steam locomotive.

    • @jaegertiger384
      @jaegertiger384 2 роки тому +2

      The diesel is an additional load to pull. Which is a good thing, considering 4014 was designed to PULL !!!!

  • @jwrailve3615
    @jwrailve3615 3 роки тому +33

    Next year they need to consist the big boy and dd40ax, the largest locos from both eras, running together, both those engines together would be nearly 200 feet combined

    • @arthurhouston3
      @arthurhouston3 3 роки тому +4

      DD40XX is no longer in service after wreck and death of engineer just out side Avondale La. Hit a dump truck engineer was in john and supervisor was at the throttle. FRA wrote the UP up the engine had never undergone safety modifications in the front end the nose and caved in. They repaired it and now on display some where. No long run.

    • @markmckinley5989
      @markmckinley5989 3 роки тому

      @@arthurhouston3 It has been out since the wreck, just not very long.

    • @amtrakinoscale9811
      @amtrakinoscale9811 3 роки тому +1

      @@arthurhouston3 6936 is still in Cheyenne, not on display. It needs mechanical work to run again.

    • @tavi9598
      @tavi9598 3 роки тому

      @@arthurhouston3 UP is housing their Centennial in Cheyenne at the same shop that houses 4014, 844 and 3985. It has been out since the accident, several times actually. The reason it hasn't been out recently is because it needs an overhaul. UP has not stated publicly whether or not they will perform the work needed, but unlike 3985 it hasn't been retired from the active roster yet.

    • @bootsdocsandconspiracies6589
      @bootsdocsandconspiracies6589 3 роки тому

      @@tavi9598 What about the E9's have they been retired?

  • @db4239
    @db4239 3 роки тому +10

    Excellent description of difficulties faced by the 4014 Crew and a terrific video to compliment that. Thank you for sharing and have fun down there!

  • @nachtjager77
    @nachtjager77 3 роки тому +9

    Thanks for the explanation, I knew there was a water problem at Livonia when she was heading South, didn't know what it was or why they changed the schedule for the return trip, makes sense. And yes, she was puking water constantly on the fireman's side, plenty of photos of her, and there's notable water escaping no matter what the speed. Great video.

  • @charlesgilbert7432
    @charlesgilbert7432 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for all the information! Got to see the Engine passing in Maringouin LA on Monday 8/23. Being a mechanical engineer, I appreciated the scope of designing and operating this piece of machinery. Definitely a thing of beauty!!!

  • @juniorjohnson9509
    @juniorjohnson9509 2 роки тому +2

    An absolutely gorgeous mechanical monster! Let's hope the future UP brass keep deciding to fund her operation - a big bit of the continents history that future generations needs to see and appreciate.

  • @Willysmb44
    @Willysmb44 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks for the explanation, hadn't heard anything about except comments in passing on a couple of other videos like this. I didn't know the details until now. Great video, too

  • @renebeussen3374
    @renebeussen3374 3 роки тому +6

    Fantastic to see such a glorious machine still life and clicking. Thanks for the info that came with this trip !

  • @LouisianaRailProductions
    @LouisianaRailProductions 3 роки тому +37

    We were out there with you during that chase. The stretch between Natchitoches and Shreveport were perfect conditions.

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 3 роки тому +17

    Excellent detailed write-up, Fan Railer. Mechanical failures can and do occur, the U.P. Steam team did well to overcome!

    • @michaelbujaki2462
      @michaelbujaki2462 3 роки тому

      And this makes up for the time that a freight train stalled on Sherman hill and the 844 was used to get it going again. ua-cam.com/video/RU9uEwSGp9M/v-deo.html

  • @byronpink9061
    @byronpink9061 2 роки тому

    Very Appreciative for Union Pacific to invest time, resources, and crew to keep this classic mode of transportation going. Thank you! These steam engines always cheer me up! "I think I can to I know I can" I am sure many remember the classic story about the train.
    ps- thanks for rendering this amazing video footage. This took time, editing and a lot of TLC! Thank you for thus as well!

  • @chucklewis9217
    @chucklewis9217 3 роки тому +3

    The shot at 15:20 is outstanding. The golden light, indeed.

  • @pdsbulldog9941
    @pdsbulldog9941 3 роки тому +4

    What kills me is the ignorance of some "railfans". The Union Pacific handled this situation absolutely perfectly...with the well being of the locomotive at the forefront of their mind. Some people just dont understand that if the water level drops below the crown sheet, its GAME OVER. the ONLY way to save the locomotive from a catastrophic explosion that would easily LEVEL a city block would be to dump the fire. And without diesel assistance to shove it to safety, the main line is jammed. These machines are old and VERY cantankerous at times. The railroad doesnt have the recourses for the steam locomotives that it did 70 years ago, when they were able to beat the living hell out of them and then repair it in a weeks time.

  • @jeffburch5903
    @jeffburch5903 3 роки тому +2

    Baron Harkonnen's coach leaking from the movie "Dune" comes to mind. Now, 4014 just needs a Doof Warrior up front as it rolls into small town America. Children cowering from the whistle will see the next level of WOW!!!!

  • @SandBoxJohn
    @SandBoxJohn 3 роки тому +11

    Seem to me that Union Pacific could strategically position empty tank cars along the route and fill them with water over several days to prevent over taxing the small town municipal water supplies they get water from.

    • @renegadeoflife87
      @renegadeoflife87 3 роки тому +2

      Or fill tank cars at some of their maintenance shops and attach them to mixed freights in the area to be set out on sidings along 4014's planned route. That way in an actual low water situation, there would either be full tank cars waiting for them, or they could park the 4014 on a siding and send the diesel escort to fetch them from a nearby yard.

    • @splitreduction3901
      @splitreduction3901 3 роки тому +2

      @@renegadeoflife87 That’s one of the most impractical things I’ve heard in a while. They can barely get a crew called for this thing out of the pool to pilot it every day, and you think the railroad is capable of staging dozens of water cars across the system in advance? Good luck!

    • @tavi9598
      @tavi9598 3 роки тому +1

      This would require way, way too much work. It would be a logistical nightmare and would add extra unpaid weight to UP revenue freight traffic.
      Like it's been said already, situations like this are what the diesel is for. Having a diesel backup engine full of fuel and in the consist makes infinitely more sense than trying to anticipate the whims of a thirsty steam engine and staging water tanks along the route.

  • @gastech7188
    @gastech7188 3 роки тому +5

    So great to see it restored and operational, despite problems. I grew up in LA area and climbed on it while it was on static display at the Pomona (Los Angeles County) Fairgrounds while I was in my teens. (My sons enjoyed exploring it also) Understand mechanical problems can happen with any equipment, so great they had a back up. The Wife and I were privileged to ride on one of the excursion trips while it was in the Los Angeles area in October 2019. It was paired with 2 Diesel helper engines and 23 cars, amazing trip.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому +1

      That was a fun trip to chase. I just wish Cajon Pass wasn't so remote.

    • @darkpepsi
      @darkpepsi 3 роки тому

      I was also there in Barstow that year! Was a early Sunday morning from Long Beach, CA to get to Barstow before 8 am to beat the crowds: totally worth it. Then went way ahead to the Cajon Pass and recorded going through the passage and bridges in that area. I recently went to Cheyenne, WY to see if it was out of the steam house but wasn’t on the track. Crossing fingers it will come back to Southern California again.

    • @nbk9372
      @nbk9372 3 роки тому

      @@FanRailer I don't follow much UP BB, but do they allow passengers on board? I wouldn't mind paying for a round trip and a waiver of liability if need be. Would probably have to travel like a Hobo, basic hygiene items, sleeping bag, freeze dried packaged food, sleeping bag, butt pad, water and piss jug. :o) TY again.

  • @Benjamin0119
    @Benjamin0119 3 роки тому +8

    This is a great video! It's cool you were able to get some pacing shots like I did! The first pacing shots I ever got of Big Boy (or any steam engine for that matter) and a dream come true that I never would have expected!
    This might sound silly, but at around 5:27 and beyond, the lighting was just beautiful, with how it filtered down through the clouds and trees and around Big Boy, almost looked heavenly haha.
    Then the sunset shot at the end was great!
    Of course I understand why the diesel has to be there as back up, and for dynamic braking, though it is such a visual detraction, aesthetically incongruent with the rest of the consist. If a diesel has to be there I wish it could be a vintage contemporary, like an F-unit or E-unit, if available. Though I suppose Union Pacific probably doesn't want something old backing up something else that's old.
    I had heard that Big Boy had to be pushed into Fort Worth because it ran out of fuel. When I watched it in Mexia, TX it did not seem to be leaving under its own power, unlike how it came in, but I don't know why. Later on when we followed it to Hearne, TX, it seemed back up and running as normal, so not sure what the deal was there.

  • @royreynolds108
    @royreynolds108 3 роки тому +6

    The crossing at 14:35 to the end was 70th St. east of the airport. Most everything else in this video was along LA 1 or old LA 1 between Shreveport and Natchitoches on down to Alexandria; of course, this trip was the reverse direction. I have been on that road many times. The old T&P follows US 71 from Alexandria to Lebeau then turns east and crosses the Atachifilaya River at Melville. This route has very little grade in it.

    • @JamesU56
      @JamesU56 3 роки тому +2

      It’s Louisiana what do ya expect there’s not gonna be many grades here

  • @bertcresta6685
    @bertcresta6685 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for the narrative/explanation of what happened to the locomotive. Great planning by the crew!! Hopefully they got the problem resolved…

  • @williamcharles9480
    @williamcharles9480 3 роки тому +1

    The view of seeing 4014, the famous "Big Boy" in Louisiana is simply surreal. Thanks Union Pacific! It's appreciated.

  • @Cnw8701
    @Cnw8701 3 роки тому +2

    Wow, UP 4015 looks great with those silver painted trucks! It's got a classic look to it!

  • @alleycatvietnam
    @alleycatvietnam 3 роки тому +6

    Fan Railer thanks for the blow-by-blow description of how all this happened, Thanks for the education, keep up the good work.
    Cheers from San Francisco

  • @brendazenteno7455
    @brendazenteno7455 3 роки тому +1

    Terrific camera work! Thanks so much since it was way too far for us to go and conflicted with the start of the school year! My kids used to climb on 4014 when they were babies and Big Boy was still in Pomona. Love seeing it run!

  • @user-cl9qe6pq5b
    @user-cl9qe6pq5b 2 роки тому +1

    Красота! Особенно смотреть на работу механизмов! Вот это техника! Уважение работникам, которые восстановили этот чудесный локомотив!!!

  • @NixCrossing
    @NixCrossing 3 роки тому +3

    If a road follows the tracks , would that make it a rail - road? 😂 awesome video! Thanks so much for taking us along for the journey! 🚂💨

  • @sandysmithvideos228
    @sandysmithvideos228 3 роки тому +5

    Excellent video, thank you for posting so quickly and your detailed explanation on how and why things happened. This is another reason for hauling the tool cars along as well.

    • @sandysmithvideos228
      @sandysmithvideos228 3 роки тому

      These are the days that give Ed Dickens Jr. that head of white hair!

  • @michaeltaylor1603
    @michaeltaylor1603 3 роки тому +2

    I was on 3985 as a "guest conductor" back in the early 2,000's. She needed a new "O" ring-(Ahhh! those da---m O rings like Space Shuttle) bane of our existence. Limped slowly through Plantersville, TX (Home of Texas Renaissance Festival) Ring machined in Houston. Ran great to Bay City the next day!

  • @kainhall
    @kainhall 3 роки тому +3

    i know that "clang clank clang clank" of the driving rods is normal
    .
    but it still sounds like a bad bearing to my ears (im an auto mechanic)
    .
    however.... they say "a loose wheel bearing is a happy bearing"
    if you tighten them down more than finger tight.... as it heats up and expands.... its enough to cause the rollers to lock up
    causing MASSIVE carnage

  • @kevinvoss220
    @kevinvoss220 3 роки тому +2

    That’s one of the coolest things left in the plant I would love to go back in time and live in that area.

  • @1zenfar
    @1zenfar 2 роки тому +1

    Hello Americans, congratulations on the rebirth of your old Big Boy. The Korean War and later American steam locomotives helped a lot.

  • @atvendo
    @atvendo 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much for posting this! Fantastic camerawork and really appreciate the detailed description. 👍🏻

  • @brianwhetton9621
    @brianwhetton9621 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this :) All Union Pacific staff must be proud of what the company has done to restore this magnificent engine; good PR & I hope folk respond by supporting them.

  • @silvadic2207
    @silvadic2207 2 роки тому

    I don’t know why, but I find it rather soothing to hear the sound of the coupling rods moving.

  • @TravisCyprien
    @TravisCyprien 2 роки тому

    In my books itself, within the last 30 years only two Steam Locomotives have traveled the rails in the state of Louisiana. Southern Pacific 745 back in 2005 and Union Pacific 4014 in 2021. I have seen both locomotives in person. And are awesome to see. 745 is currently going under a FRA rebuild and we know about 4014.

  • @denizen9998
    @denizen9998 3 роки тому +5

    I imagined this loco garnered alot of public attention when it was even brand new.

    • @jaegertiger384
      @jaegertiger384 2 роки тому +1

      Well, the first one would have... 4000... by the time 4014 came along, it was "no big deal". Remember, UP was AWASH in steam locomotives and the War was in full swing. They had FREIGHT to move !!!

  • @davidng2336
    @davidng2336 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, I’m glad I read the lengthy description. Thanks for the information.

  • @markissboi3583
    @markissboi3583 3 роки тому +1

    The bigboy4014 Horn is something else
    be a good ringtone on mobile .

  • @kathrynrichards2343
    @kathrynrichards2343 3 роки тому

    Saw 4014 today in Scott city Missouri, what a exciting time for the people who came out. My son was super excited.

  • @bassic6959
    @bassic6959 Рік тому +1

    that footage where you are matching its speed from the side is so cool. wow

  • @saxonaudio
    @saxonaudio 2 роки тому

    4014 be like:
    Oh I don’t feel so good. I think my injector isn’t priming anymore. That is A TON of wasted water and energy.

  • @matchoo4050
    @matchoo4050 3 роки тому +2

    Great shot! I drove from San Diego to Ft. Worth to see the big boy and unfortunately didn't get a chance to pace it :(

  • @michaeltaylor1603
    @michaeltaylor1603 3 роки тому +1

    Life summed UP. Always have a plan "B" & Plan "C" If you have to go to Plan "D"...means you need to stay at home because it ain't meant for you to be out that day. LOL!

  • @donnyo639
    @donnyo639 3 роки тому +7

    Great footage. I like the radio traffic overlay on the video. I think Ed better add some oil tankers full of water to the consist next time!

    • @geomodelrailroader
      @geomodelrailroader 3 роки тому +5

      yup and Steve ran into the same problem in California which put #844 and #3985 out of service. Low water is a problem and it needs to be fixed or Big Boy can't run.

    • @jaegertiger384
      @jaegertiger384 2 роки тому +1

      Makes you wish you were sitting there, watching it all happen, in a 1970 Challenger with a 426 hemi. Ahhhh... just the thought of it.

  • @KyleGlendinning
    @KyleGlendinning 3 роки тому +12

    This video showcases the Big Boy so beautifully. Really great camera work. Thank you for sharing this.

    • @GasketManzrevenge
      @GasketManzrevenge 3 роки тому +1

      Around 15:20.. a still on the wall of the man-cave..

  • @animal16365
    @animal16365 3 роки тому +2

    The Reading 2101 had a similar thing happen when she was operating excursions for the C&O. Instead of being denied water or anything. She wasn't operating with a extra water tender. She pulled into Terra Alta West Virginia with less than 6in of water in the tender.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому +2

      Yea I think that documentary is still floating around on UA-cam somewhere.

    • @animal16365
      @animal16365 3 роки тому

      @@FanRailer
      ua-cam.com/video/shwygmJ4IMU/v-deo.html

  • @LDaniel_BDuce
    @LDaniel_BDuce 3 роки тому +1

    I didn’t know big boy was going to be coming close to where I lived today. (The stretch from poplar bluff MO to Scott city Mo)
    I only found out because my dad mentioned that there was a lot of cars lined up near the tracks and if there was anything going on. Turns out it was Big Boy. I was so excited because it’s my favorite steam engine. And I was looking at the times to get a good judgment on when I needed to be at the tracks. I got there maybe 30 minutes before and it was amazing. There was a group of trees that obstructed my vision aways away from me. But it just made the view cooler. Hearing the crossing gates close, seeing the smoke by the trees, and just seeing it emerge and hearing the whistle. It was amazing and I’m so glad that I didn’t miss it, but with how close it was that I could have potentially missed the opportunity.

  • @AlongtheRiverLife
    @AlongtheRiverLife 3 роки тому +2

    We saw her in Luling southbound, a beautiful, majestic sight!
    I find it hard to believe they could not get water? This does not sound right! Livonia is a major train yard. There is the DOW Plaquemine Refinery, just south, they could supply all the water needed. They could stop several places and get a little water.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому +1

      Yea something seemed off to me when I heard that too, but that's the best info I have to go off of at the moment. If I find out anything more credible, I will update the description.

    • @AlongtheRiverLife
      @AlongtheRiverLife 3 роки тому +2

      @@FanRailer I am not questioning UP Steam folks, they are wonderful people! I guess what I am saying, if you need 8-water stops, then schedule 12, just to be sure. And to say one can't find water in large quantities with all the refineries and such. Anyway, as long as no harm comes to Big Boy and her crew, then things work out perfectly. We loved seeing Big Boy up close in Luling!!!!

  • @greengaming5420
    @greengaming5420 3 роки тому +13

    Pretty sure that if you run low or out of water you can have a boiler explosion. I’m glad that they have a diesel to assist. People always ask why they have a diesel trailing the steam locomotive(s) or pushing the consist from behind. One reason is this exact situation when the steam locomotive runs low on water. Another is to provide dynamic braking in which steam locomotives do not have at their disposal.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому +15

      That is correct. If you are careless and run the tender bone dry, once the water in the boiler falls below the highest point in the crown sheet, the sheet is now exposed to the hot steam on the boiler side and the fire on the firebox side. This can cause the sheet to experience a structural failure, suddenly and violently venting the pressure inside the boiler into the firebox. That is a boiler explosion. Nobody survives those.

    • @geomodelrailroader
      @geomodelrailroader 3 роки тому +3

      @@FanRailer Steve and Lynn did but it put #844 and #3985 out of service and they had to tow #844 back to Steam Shop dead with this very diesel.

    • @the_retag
      @the_retag 3 роки тому +2

      @@FanRailer yes, but before it reaches that stage a responsible fireman will drop the fire, but then your a sitting duck on the mainline

    • @NEAFarmKid4010
      @NEAFarmKid4010 3 роки тому +2

      @@geomodelrailroader that wasn't a boiler explosion. It was a failure that occurred with 10 or so of the boiler tubes. Happened in 1999 in Sacramento California at Railfair '99.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому +3

      Gettysburg was a boiler explosion.

  • @skypost5365
    @skypost5365 3 роки тому +2

    its not often the desial engine has to push 4014 it mainly is there for extra breaking but will be used for emergencys like this. other than that the deisal is jsut for dynamic braking and power supply to the cars

  • @ronashman8463
    @ronashman8463 3 роки тому +2

    Don't you just love it when those great wheel driving beams run in sync? (At the beginning of this brilliant video.)

  • @OffRampAdventures
    @OffRampAdventures 3 роки тому +2

    Glad I found your channel! Love those old steamers!

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 3 роки тому +1

    Andd to think some railroads had water pits between the rails and a loco could take on thousands of gallons on the fly with a scoop in seconds. I sure wish I could have seen those days.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому

      There's still archival footage of the NYC using the track pans on youtube somewhere.

  • @sthpac69
    @sthpac69 2 роки тому

    I always thought the coal car was actually a tank car full of water on the new Big Boy runs. I am a train enthusiast and all love for the old schools but the sound of that diesel makes me want to kiss the sky lol.

  • @neelwhite8058
    @neelwhite8058 3 роки тому +1

    No Water , no go , no beautiful steam whistle .

  • @boku_no_pikohan
    @boku_no_pikohan 3 роки тому +8

    It's so quiet with the drifting throttle!

    • @corycollier
      @corycollier 3 роки тому +1

      Stealth Mode ;)

    • @jackboren431
      @jackboren431 2 роки тому +1

      I once heard one of them being moved dead at the museum in St. Louis. It was so neat to hear all the valves working, a sound you could never hear when it was under steam.

  • @straycat2253
    @straycat2253 3 роки тому +2

    That train is getting some right now !! Boom having a blast! Whooooo hooooooooo!!!

  • @JamesPrewitt-ps6sl
    @JamesPrewitt-ps6sl Рік тому

    They all are doing a wonderful job with what they have to work with these days. FANTASTIC.

  • @happyhome41
    @happyhome41 3 роки тому +20

    FANTASTIC video, absolutely LOVE the details.

  • @nanmattingly6402
    @nanmattingly6402 3 роки тому +1

    My gosh, thanks for this video and the explanation. Although I don't understand all the descriptions, I surely thank you for giving us them. I wish I could live on UP 4014 Big Boy, I can't get enough of her. I know, it's Big Boy, but she's such a beauty I just can't help calling him a her! Lol. Thanks again

  • @justinstrickland5382
    @justinstrickland5382 3 роки тому +4

    Excellent explanation on what occurred, great video!

  • @LeitoCristofoli9022
    @LeitoCristofoli9022 3 роки тому +2

    Marvelous and magnificent video friend, Big Boy #4014 is the Star and Queen of UP's rails and every time she comes out is the big event, the big party. Like 2232 and greetings from Argentina.

  • @EvilNoobKitty123
    @EvilNoobKitty123 3 роки тому +1

    I visited Denver during a PCS since I was passing through and went to a museum that had a Big Boy train and the museum manager told me that this train was actually touring the US
    omg this is epic

  • @jayfmiller
    @jayfmiller 3 роки тому +6

    Don't kick Livonia. I lived in a "small town" and that volume of water drawn from the system would have put the entire community at risk if there was a large structure fire before the recovery of volume and pressure.

    • @1768ify
      @1768ify 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, and they couldn’t spare a little bit to keep em going because…???

  • @BigUnitBeef
    @BigUnitBeef 3 роки тому +1

    Good thing she brought a helper.

  • @Jesussaidhewillreturn
    @Jesussaidhewillreturn 3 роки тому +1

    Great company…great PR for restoring this. Long time shareholder!

  • @planetwisconsin9901
    @planetwisconsin9901 3 роки тому +1

    The SD70 is also there to provide PTC. They havent figured out how to get 4014 to provide the data needed for PTC so they use the diesel for that. Good video of a cab ride I just saw here shows the PTC unit installed. Of course if you run low on water and the crown sheet gets a little warm........😐

  • @marymcadory9504
    @marymcadory9504 2 роки тому

    Not sure of terminology, but I liked seeing those pistons or whatever moves the wheels showing synchronization.

  • @brianpacos4072
    @brianpacos4072 3 роки тому

    For anyone that thinks she just coasts while being pushed by diesels the whole time since her restoration, listen to the difference in her sound at the beginning of the video to when she's drifting and actually being pushed by the diesel. Pretty obvious she's normally under load.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому

      Even more so here: ua-cam.com/video/Sccj_YFsuRE/v-deo.html

  • @sackitt16
    @sackitt16 3 роки тому

    Sure glad they took care of the problem. I love mechanical engineering and Steam locomotives, Piston airplane engines, and internal combustion engines are, to me, the finest examples of such technology. Once I get into college, I'm going to study more of this. I'd love to help bring Steam power back to the forefront; surely with today's technology and using all the research of the past, we can do it!!

  • @angrodNumenesse
    @angrodNumenesse 3 роки тому +1

    They didn't just bring a diesel. They were concerned about reliability enough that they brought an EMD.

  • @theophilhist6455
    @theophilhist6455 3 роки тому +4

    Poetry in motion mechanical beauty beyond comprehension. Good thing there was a EDM. Is this the same engine that was static in Laramie WY back in 2008?

  • @lugnut1976a
    @lugnut1976a 3 роки тому +2

    Just amazing I saw sitting at the fair grounds for years.

  • @jasonasselin
    @jasonasselin 3 роки тому +1

    Some of these people are WAY TOO close to the tracks. Where is all the police & security we saw on that last run up north?

  • @Bazoo-1968
    @Bazoo-1968 3 роки тому +3

    What a great video and description. Thank you!

  • @TravisCyprien
    @TravisCyprien 3 роки тому +8

    Main reason why they carry the Diesel just in case. Almost running out of water. Glad they did this

    • @arthurhouston3
      @arthurhouston3 3 роки тому

      FRA now after several failures of other steam engines on main line for safety are required to have another engine. Also assist in breaking with diamiaic breaking.

    • @splitreduction3901
      @splitreduction3901 3 роки тому

      @@arthurhouston3 There is absolutely no FRA instruction for including a diesel locomotive in a consist. Complete and utter horse shit.

  • @MrRailfan
    @MrRailfan 3 роки тому +11

    Damn I'd love to see this in person. Which there was some way they made it run up north.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому +4

      Yea, due to the current climate with steam ops and PTC compliance, UP will only ever run their steam on their tracks. You'd have to travel out west to see this in action. www.up.com/forms/steam-trace.cfm If you go to this link and look at the map, the red lines are all of the potential tracks that might see UP steam on them.

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer  3 роки тому +2

      Also, on the flip side, I'd love to see / hear the R211's running, but I'm always either at work or out west chasing steam LOL

    • @williamhelus3522
      @williamhelus3522 3 роки тому +3

      Gonna' be traveling through this area on it's final 50 miles home. I'm already extremely excited, and it still is 2 weeks away.
      Truly,
      BullyBilly.

    • @dragonbrownies517
      @dragonbrownies517 3 роки тому +1

      @@williamhelus3522 I'm waiting for next Thursday when she pulls into Salina, KS. I live just 40 minutes north, so seeing her again will be a real treat. From what the my daughter's grandpa has said, he wants to see it that day and run to Colorado to catch it Tuesday when she runs through Greely to have his dad watch it. They're super big railfans. His dad isn't getting any younger so it'd be a good treat for them since he's now 84.

  • @railwaytycoongame1755
    @railwaytycoongame1755 3 роки тому +2

    Heck, this locomotive is flaming huge!

  • @johnford5568
    @johnford5568 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks. I hope they keep working out issues and come back in cooler months when all that steam is more visible. Makes you wonder if steam technology had kept developing all this time where would it be now.

    • @ferky123
      @ferky123 3 роки тому +1

      They had a condensing locomotive in South Africa. The reason why steam fell out of fashion is the long lead time to fire the locomotive and having to go around lubricating everything.

  • @suprateembhattacherjee6834
    @suprateembhattacherjee6834 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the wonderful explanation....make me appreciate the work done by Mr. Ed Dickens and his team even more!

  • @Pixel_Lad183
    @Pixel_Lad183 Рік тому

    You can understand why big boy uses diesel trains. THat helps them run another mile or as a backup train to help them move along to stop another mile.

  • @billhou1
    @billhou1 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent video. Very informative. Thank you!

  • @reneereb6499
    @reneereb6499 3 роки тому +2

    Great footage, see the Big Boy come back to life after a drink was fantastic.

    • @bigredc222
      @bigredc222 3 роки тому

      I kept waiting for it to stop to take on water, did I miss it?

  • @novrypf
    @novrypf 3 роки тому +2

    the train is cool my friend and the nature is beautiful

  • @percy215
    @percy215 3 роки тому +1

    I wish they do a big boy tour where she vists the entire world.

  • @DIEGOIMAGS
    @DIEGOIMAGS 3 роки тому +2

    Hermosa esa maquina a vapor!!! Saludos desde Argentina

  • @shockingguy
    @shockingguy 3 роки тому +2

    Oh thanks for that awesome description of what happened here 👍👏👏😂