To those who went to Canada for university: Congratulations on surviving your first week without being arrested for hurting someone's feelings and disobeying strict socialist values! Many don't make it far past the airport.
Came to Canada from Russia in 2012, was already an educated IT professional with 5 years of work experience, went through school (2 year program just to be able to get the PR). Fast forward to today, I live in Florida making a descent living and owning 2 houses. Thanks to my Canadian passport, I was able to get here on TN visa as a Canadian citizen. Otherwise this would have been a lot more challenging.
Canadian brain drain is absolutely real and a shame. We lose a lot of intelligent individuals to the states since it just makes more sense for those who can - to simply cross the border and triple their income and potentially reduce their COL. It's a really unfortunate problem and I really don't see a good solution.
How much time it take to get the canadian citizenship? How did you move to Florida and the US? Do you have an idea about thr job market in Florida? And the business opportunities in Florida? I am an engineer with European education (France and the Netherlands), and I work as a manager in an industrial company in Algeria. Thank you in advance for the info snd advice..
This is great content, there are UA-camrs that moved to Canada but have a lot of money and they are deceiving people by showing them their incredible huge houses and incredible lives, I hope that more people sees videos like this before moving to Canada.
These so called UA-camrs don't give the true picture ...even they lie about their so called money ...they never even give the true picture ...one such idiot is Potato Talkies
I completely agree. They are promoting a dream life in Canada but it’s all false. Probably ones that came 4 years back could buy cheap housing are relatively better. But still they have a tough life but they will never mention on their UA-cam channel.
Canada needs young immigrants to pay taxes/CPP to our wealthy boomer population and to keep our real estate pyramid scheme going. I was born in Canada and want to have a family but it is not possible for me in Canada. I would love to leave.
I went to an international school in Singapore and I remember a representative from UBC came over to give a presentation to those who were interested in studying in Canada and I remember specifically that they placed a heavy focus on immigration. Compared to talks I heard from other university representatives from UK, US and Australia, the UBC representative made it a large selling point that if you graduate from UBC you have an easy path towards permanent residence and citizenship. Now, considering that people in my school came from well off households and did academically very well, it seemed like the main selling point to study at UBC compared to perhaps an elite school in America or Britain was an easier path towards citizenship, which was likely why most people who attended the UBC lecture if they weren't Canadian were nationals from places like China or India who have weak passports. While everyone I know who went to study in Canada is doing well, this is basically because they all went to top unis and have very well off parents. It's a shame that those who perhaps come from a lower income background and live in poorer countries get preyed on by certain bad actors for the promise of a better life.
I think in nowadays, most Chinese nationals will go back to China when they finished their study in Canada or the U.S. because the opportunities they will have in China compared to in Canada or US are like day vs. night. Just forced my bro in law moved back to Shanghai from Australia and the opportunities he having in Shanghai is not something he can even dream of in Australia……of course, this only applies to motivated people, lazy asses don’t apply.
well that's what canada is all about immigration, thy exploit these people from their fist 5 year in the country, if you manage to surviv then pay it forward it is your turn to abouse the ones who come fresh of the boat!
Singapore's passport ranking is high. Most Singaporeans in Canada made citizenship an option because of the 100 page passports and also Singapore's non dual citizenship policy making it difficult for the compelling reason for citizenship. Getting a job needs the student not playing around in summer and get into the co-op course to secure their first student employment. Get the work attitudes right with the employer for employability and a good record for the resume. You need to look for courses that need people in it. There is no point in getting to "popular" courses. Get employed and then think about passion later in life. Put money on the table first then other things as options. They are considered risky, money helps mitigate the risk better.
Canadian here. My undergrad (engineering) had mostly Canadians but graduate studies are mainly international students for the university I went to. I do think foreigners get preyed upon by unis, so that is true. However, a lot of the students that come here are from well off families and expect to be handed everything like they are used to. The ones with hustle tend to do better. The economy hasn't been great the last decade or so and many Canadians are also struggling. The cost of living is outrageous now for us too. I have friends I've met that were international students (engineering) and I'd say most are doing alright. I do think the program and uni you study matters for job prospects. Also, I've had to move around to small centers for employment to gain experience. The major cities are more competitive for jobs and typically want more experienced candidates.
@@theophilusoteng6753 Well the illicit pharmaceuticals industry are always looking for talented cooks, chemists, and quality control experts, they pay very well and aren't too particular about where you got your degree from.
I came to Montreal in 2018. Got my PR in 2022 and I work for a big company now with a stable salary. It was a long, hard journey. International students should understand that the first 3-4 years will be unbelievably taxing, and that pressure usually forces you to build a skillset so that you can show how you can be of use to any employer. Many can't handle this pressure and I don't blame them, it gets tough and lonely and the winters are unforgiving(some go back, some perish in vices, and some find alternate professions). If you are someone on the brink, hold on, do what is good for you, and show up for yourself, going back isn't a failure, it's just part of your journey.
Hi! I am an Indian student as well studying at Alexander College, British Columbia. When I saw the schools website and social media all I saw was diversity but it wasn't until I started classes that I came face to face with the reality. 90% of the students are Indian here and diversity is like none. 5% would be Asian, 1% Latin and the rest is Canadian only faculty. I am yet to meet a Canadian student and I have been attending classes for 3 weeks now. That aside I was fed with the fake promises of getting a job easily as well but I have been unemployed for 1 month even after applying for 100+ jobs (mostly bartending as I have certification and qualification). I have also applied for other minimum wage jobs but no luck so far. For housing, I would say I got really lucky to get a place as soon as I came otherwise it is really hard as well. Still the place is 1 hour away from my college.
Most of the college PG Diploma was made by Canadian Government for local population who are weak in studies or dont have job - So they do this PG Diploma and get some job and pay government back in form of taxes. Indians and other student immigrants found this loop hole in system and they started exploiting it. Education or Degree is for life. I see very few Indian students going to Proper Universities in Canada and do Masters or Bachelors. They choose for easy and less expensive PG Diploma - Most of them will end up doing labour jobs or low paying jobs all there rest of life.
@@Pulkit__7 Bruh what are most Indians??? Give me some numbers in figure......................Last year 2 Lakh Indian students came into Canada. Surely from that 10,000 will have good job and career................what about rest 190,000 students????
Most people I know, likely 80% of people. You need to compete in life man. No one will come and give you stuff. Change your friends and meet people who want to succeed in life. We are not here as labourers. I know people who are really really lazy, and if they are even given an opportunity to work just 8 hours a day for a year, and they will earn millions, they still won't work at all. Don't be like this.
I came to Canada in 2014 to study in Quebec university, I landed a job before graduation and I’ve been working since. I even started a business while working full time. I’m now a citizen of Canada and my two kids are born in Canada. I worked very hard to get all this and I did my research before coming to Canada. Bottom line, you need much more than just education to succeed in Canada or anywhere else. Wasting your parents money hoping to become wealthy in a foreign country is a suicide mission.
My friend, do you not see your mind is in a bubble? Its embarrassing. The year is 2023, not 2014, canada is trying to bring like 400,000 immigrants to canada when it was probably like 90k in your time. Prices are different, everything is different. The fact that you're ignoring that makes you look very ignorant
I stayed and lived in Canada for 9 years since I was 14 years old. I left the country as I couldn't find any job availabilities that are attractive enough as compared to a lucrative job in countries like Singapore.
In the era of interconnectivity and globalization the competition is throat-cutting everywhere. Basically you need to be upping your game all the time to gain that edge employers and businesses are looking for, something that sets you apart. Easier said than done, but one thing Max said, you have to fight for your place. That statement goes everywhere. Whether in Canada or anywhere else in the world. It's a dream, I've seen a lot of people make it. But that success came to them after insane sacrifices and struggle. It's a nightmare for a lot too, those who believed just going to Canada will be the beautiful end to all their life's struggle back home and everything will be handed to them on a silver platter.
Thank you for covering this painful side of studying in Canada. I would like to share my experience since I have been here since 2021. The school where I study is a legislated university where students can get a work permit after graduation. However, there is no diversity as they usually describe. Approx. 75-80 percent of students from India and Bangladesh are from other Asian countries. I have never seen local students. It is the wrong way to misinform international students who come with big dreams. Personally, I expected to meet a more diverse student community. Another issue is that job ads usually require so-called Canadian experience even though you have more than five years of experience in the same field in your home country. I am wondering how it is possible to gain that Canadian experience when they do not provide for us with some opportunity.
CANADA is just a Shithole.. US is also another shithole.. They will screw people up and tax people.. They are never going to give any PR or citizenship... Better look for other good countries or a nice job in India itself
You Indians are complaining about jobs I've been to India.Indians Never give jobs to foreigner. It's 99% impossible as an immigrant to get a job in India so stop spoiling other people's countries with immigrant
@@ivanhoewindsor4749 I'm a white Canadian taxpayer so I don't know who you think you are addressing. And yes, they (Indians) do use education to get into Canada. But the Canada they are told about doesn't exist. Sad truth but if it's too good to be true it usually is.
I'm a Canadian and I've met a lot of international students and I've become friends with quite a few of them (they are all amazing people). I always feel bad for them because how much Canadian universities rip them off by the universities here. Everything is more expensive for them and it always makes me mad because of how much they get overcharged
Seriously? You feel sorry for them? You should feel sorry for us Canadians. Most international students are rich af. And PR is handed to them like a piece of candy. So stop feeling sorry them and start feeling sorry for Canadians who live paycheque to paycheque!
@@I34R yes I do feel sorry for them, and I have yet to meet any international student who is rich. I also never said that I don’t feel sorry for fellow Canadians; this video was about international students, so my comment was about international students. If the video was purely about domestic students, then I would’ve left a similar comment about the situation for domestic students.
@@ElPenetrator21 funny that people are mad at international students not paying taxes (even though they do), but never mention the super wealthy getting away without paying their fair share.
I think the best way to succeed in canada is to do a lot of research on your own ; go for cheaper schools ; go for strategic courses that would finally lead you to PR ; network while in school go for job fairs meet people ; check the school and the province ; every school would tell you that they have high acceptance rates etc Canada is a DIY country and process ✨
Very nice input. But I don't really recommend to go for cheaper schools (without considering the school's reputation). Your school plays a huge role in landing a better job afterward, of course, this is not true for everyone many factors still have to be considered, but employers look at the school you attended. Cheaper does not always mean inferior, but most of the time it's the case. I went for a "better" school with the expense of spending more money on tuition than a normal student would. One year into the program I have received offers already from different companies in the city I live in. Some of the offers are even coming from my instructors. Which surprised me given the fact that I still have a year before I finish my program. Moreover, my instructors are really competent, and they take teaching really seriously. While some of my friends from "cheaper" school are busy filming TikTok, I'm burning the midnight oil doing school works.
Yeah, you tell the truth! All of these are true. I'm not a student here just an International experience engineer, it's tough to find a job and it is hard to find everybody here to work for a serious and focused on a high qualities company. Canadian companies have bad efficiency. The government does not have a true long-term planning. The Parties just got the power to make their own famous.
My experience might be different. I came in Canada in 2011, did a bachelor degree in a small town of Moncton. Yes school was 10K$-11K$/year but housing wasn’t expensive. As soon as I finished, I moved to Quebec and landed a job in my field and since the I got every jobs I wanted so my experience in Canada has been really good! My sister who’s in Ottawa has the same experience as I. She landed a job at Desjardins when studying and got promoted as financial advisor as soon as she finished a month ago. I’m thankful about those opportunities to be honest. In a long term I’m planning to leave here. The only thing for me is that there’s not enough benefits working wise as in Europe (less vacation days, no restaurant ticket, etc..), other than that, I’m grateful.❤
Yes you’re right the vacation policies here are dogshit. I work full time in a technical field. We started with 2 weeks vacation, got another week at 1 year, but we don’t get a 4th week until 15 years!! Im 9 years in but m looking for options abroad at this point.
@@zanetusken exactly me too. My cousin and some friends in Europe, they freaking have a month from the jump+20 paid rest days😂( basically if you work 40h/week, you can have 28.5 days because their full time limit there is 35h/week)+an amount that they can use as for vacation (about 500€)+restaurants tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel like I’m Canada, employees don’t have much benefits to be honest. In some places, you can’t even take your whole 3weeks one shot! Also during summer and end of the year, it’s like a war zone with colleagues just so you can have some days off. My cousin’s employer gave them 1 paid day off just because he thought the stuff have worked Hard during last summer 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Yeah when she told me I was like aight, I need to move! Btw I am in Compliance (financial securities)🤗
@@zanetusken I got 6 weeks the first year at my job and I can accumulate up to 8 weeks in Québec. But that's like the best condition in the whole province I suppose.
@@charlolel well everyone has his own view of what is important. I prefer to have more time off with even less money to enjoy than having more money and no time to enjoy it. And also the exemples that I have are my friends whom have a salary way above the minimum wage and were able to buy a house in France and a big one and are enjoying their time off. In Canada, I also have a salary way above 80K a year but 3weeks to a month isn’t enough!
I'm Canadian, born and raised. I'm so ashamed of my government. We promote immigration but treat the most useful immigrants that need to work the worst. Even doctors and nurses. Realistically we cater to the elites from foreign countries that are maybe laundering in real estate and neglecting those that have real skills and just need to be setup and then will provide long term gains in regards to taxes. This is a shameful business practice as there are so many that want to come here and not speculate but live a regular life in peace and harmony. On top of this the foreign agents are sketchy as well. I don't understand how trained doctors are driving ubers. It's disgusting. Let's fix this.
Very nice video, ultimately agents are not bad but you should always remember how they make money. In Kenya, I went to some agents who say they are free but they get commissions from pretty expensive schools in Canada, from my own research I was able to find much more affordable schools and if you are serious enough I think you can apply by yourself. Doing a lot of research on where you are going, jobs available in that city and reviews are also critical.
I believe that if future students make the research themselves instead of using agencies who sell false dreams they could narrow down lots of things and manage their expectations way better.
I agree. I had a friend from China and it’s actually the agencies over there that are selling the dream, not any specific university. Sometimes it’s basically a scam to get people with money to pay for this dream.
I did my own research, all the paperwork I did it directly myself. Still a scam. Simply put: it's government propaganda. To sell "the dream". Top government involved in that. Everything you see and read outside Canada depict a wonderland.
I have Nigerian and Indian friends that enrolled in universities in the Philippines. They said the teachers are always present and they are smart and approachable. The tuition fees are cheap yet they received quality education. The only thing they despise is they always have quizzes and tests, and group activities. (They are nursing , med-tech, and medical students.)
I'm from India. But I don't consider myself Indian coz opportunity low and youth population is 50% of entire population so you can't imagine the insane competition level.
Canada is quite hard for young students as studying and working is not easy. Nevertheless, Canada has become a very interesting opportunity for people already married as one can study and the other one works.
I'm a bit worried it won't get any better. Besides having to worry about paying any outstanding tuition, sticker shock is quite a reality for most, if not all, international students. When I came to Vancouver from Mexico in July 2021, I was immensely surprised by just how expensive everything seems to be in Canada; from general services to day-to-day transactions, I found it was pretty hard to save. I was lucky enough to get a good job after graduating from my masters program, but even then, it was hard to keep up with the rising cost of *literally* everything. I ultimately decided to leave Canada for good and, as a Mexican national, benefitted from the TN visa program in the US. I still reminisce how much quality of life I had in Vancouver, though, but no matter how beautiful the city is, it's just not that livable with its gouging cost of living.
Came to Canada as an International Student in a small city in Northern BC. Graduated in 2017 (spent about ~$23k in tuition) and landed a job as a Software Dev making 60k. Became a PR the next year (2018) and bought my wife in (also became a PR the same time I did). Moved to the Lower Mainland in BC for more job opportunities. Fast forward to today and I make ~100k. Applied for Citizenship and will be taking the test in a few days. Once I get my Citizenship certificate, I'm flying back home. Canada is too expensive. Edit: For those who are missing the point of my message, YES, I am doing WELL on paper BUT despite all that, my wife and I are barely surviving here because of the high cost of living. We're not even in Vancouver, we're in Surrey (relatively cheaper). If you need specifics, Alex's video has it - ua-cam.com/video/zqyRp6pAwu8/v-deo.html
Am A Nigerian and I will be going to Canada this year for my master's program. I was told to learn work skills even as I am already a fashion designer. Am learning how to braid hair and taking some classes in Digital Marketing, graphics design, website development, etc. People should do their research and get ready when moving to a new place.
Think the Gov is getting some sort of kickback from Cdn colleges. My bro paid about 6K/Y for his semester at Fanshawe college, The same semester for a temp foreign student was over $24,000- Cdn, + accommodation, food, etc expenses, but never mind the college, The main focus is the easy transition to work permit >>> P.R and almost none of the Int students ever return home after graduation. He told me that almost 100% of the students were from India / China, so Colleges are targeting over-populated states to bring in as many young/English speaking ppl as possible. While other countries are supporting their own citizens to have kids and a family, Canada's liberals think this is is a great solution to an ageing population in Canada, Revolting sh!t, if you ask me..
We came to Canada last year and it's been a bit hard because we are a family of 4. The cost of living is way more than it was when we budgeted for it, it is unbelievable how fast it increased in less than a year. The job we have barely lets us pay rent and eat but I do have to say there are a lot of oportunities here. We moved from Peru since the social, political and economic situation were bad and it continues to worsen as I write this. We wanted a better life for our kids and Canada gave us the possibility, it has not been easy but considering everything it is much better than the turmoil in South America. The biggest difference is that there are jobs here in Canada and ways to improve if you really want to do so, some are dirty trade jobs but they pay well and that is what I am aiming for so I can make some money and get PR and then citizenship. I do want to stress that it is possible to make money here but you have to learn to save and invest it, rate of return on investment here is much higher than in Perú and if you play your cards right you can retire with dignity. Another option after citizenship is to go to the States too, somewhere woth low taxes and affordable real state. Buying a house in Canada is no longer an option apparently, it is way too expensive for too little.
I’m a Born and Raised Nova Scotian, and this Province is basically the Hotel California; check in any time you want, but you can never leave. Hope to God I can move overseas to give my kids a better life
I am an international undergrad studying in the US. I just wanna say your success depends on you. I don't know how it works in Canada. But if you fail in the US, you fail. They are not gonna pass you. I have seen a few international students fail last semester. I am pretty sure, the comeback is VERY hard once you fail. You need to pay money again, and maybe even have to take an extra semester. College/study is never easy. FYI, there is barely any international undergrad in my uni. If you are good at studying and determined, just believe in yourself
It's really helping to know how bad things r for our brothers and sisters trying to live there dream.but hope things get better for us .in a few years to come...am from Uganda 🇺🇬 and I follow your content all time coz I know it will help me one time
I am an international student living in Ontario, all of this is TRUE, living is extremely costly, specially housing. However I think it is possible to success, possible but not easy. I live well I am a software engineer, however at home my quality of life was better. I can always go back but I have a Canadian passport to get.
🤔🤔 the experience as a international student is very subjective. Many people fail and many success really fast. The important to know if you want to come to Canada as a student is do your homework read and gather all the info to really know what you can face here, plan your budget and will be smooth and easy, and don't trust the agencies. I studied 3 years pay full price and I was working part time, didn't have to share room I lived plenty well even during covid. I graduated and I found a professional job super fast that even I was picking the company because many of them want me. Future international student don't worry ! it won't be easy but if you are prepare will be worthy 😊
im a nurse working in Qatar i always wanted to come over Canada but as nurse. Therefore i went to an agency who were trying to convince me to be an international student in order to go there and after 2 years i can apply for permanent visa and stay there. Fortunately, i planed carefully about this and found that will pay more than i should do. So i decided to apply for work permit and be nurse aid first, go there, and later i can apply for RN.
A nurse’s aid salary is not enough to live in Canada. You will work 3 jobs to pay rent and utilities and food. Tbh work where you are now and invest your hard earned money. Do your homework before going to Canada.
Great video, in 2017 I went there, sold my car and leaving behind my life in my country and study and live a new life in Canada. How disappointed I was, I spent 6 months there, enough, to see the scam the country is, you spend a lot lot of money in education, certification and they get a high skilled worker working in their minimum wage jobs!!; then you see the unemployment, the weather, the house prices and live the rent prices!!!
Canada long ago worked out that University entry was a backdoor means of obtaining citizenship. Other countries have also come to this deduction. If you are prepared to keep the nation's universities in business, you are welcome to come in. Don't forget to pay your fees!
I used to consider studying in Canada but I gave up on this idea because my home is just too far away and I cannot leave it behind just like that (I'm Eastern European). However, I still consider studying abroad so I do a lot of research online and I always, I mean always, stumble upon websites\articles advertising enrolment agencies for Indian students, and I would always be like why is this here? You know, 'cause I'm not Indian :D And the search engines usually pick the options that suit you based on your research history, location, etc. But only now I realized that I see those so often because there're tons of them out there..
@@ricianeseaninformationchan6418 yeah, that certainly makes sense, as in the more people are interested in a service, there will be more people providing that service, but still, there are more people interested in studying abroad than the population of india I believe.. and I always look for information in English, the fact that all those websites are in English tho, I assume there're a lot of English speaking people in India due to India being a Britain's colony in the past, I've never acknowledged that untill this moment, you learn more everyday..
@@xen2924 that is true, since i have Indian friends they either opted to study in Europe if they no student debt. May i ask what course you are interested into? I am looking into POLMI Italy for UX designer
@@ricianeseaninformationchan6418 oh what a coincidence, I too am interested in UX design!:D I want to study graphic design and UX design but I'm applying everywhere I can so later on I can choose between the options I have and go for the most convenient one
This is a superb content, well done for the hard work to accomplished this. Max thanks for wonderful and exponential enlightenment and insight. Anyone who is not lazy, hard and smart working will make it to the top, Canada and her PR gives you a platform that you can't get within a shortest period of time (2 years) from any country to work your way to global top.
Thanks for making me aware of these things. I am a running bachelor's student from Bangladesh and am planning to give a try to go abroad to countries like Canada, USA, or Australia. Now I've to be more careful with that so-called agencies. Although I'm doing so much research myself, watching this video was also a part of my research.
Don't go to Canada without realizing that the Canadian population, in general, are typically well educated and have education often above the job that they do. Canadian citizen living the in US.
@@ayat5483 don't know about PR but lot of students are facing issue with getting part time jobs. I have seen lot of Oct 2022 intake students struggling to get part time. The major reason being that lot of student getting admitted to smaller town Uni along with that influx of large number of international students. I would suggest students that if you are planning to study in UK then choose Uni in major cities with big population in that getting part time will be easier.
What great content ya Max, I am so intrigued by your creativity skills and I already said this but thank you again for giving me a voice to be heard to talk about the current reality in 2022 about international studies in Canada. I love this video and it is already doing it's job, so many academic oriented students have bene reaching out to me and are now trying to put in more in-depth research about if they should pursue their education here or not and it is definitely a worthwhile thought. This video has already helped people and is going to be helping in many possible ways! :)
Didi ne Manipal University se Degree lee hai..................Guess she dont know its a garbage University in India and now came to another garbage PG Diploma for easy PR......................😂 😂 😂 😂
@vrindakhatore - Hey, just wanted to give my support to you. It takes courage to be overt and highlight these issues. All the very best for your endeavors!
It's not only about studying but also about working: To immigrate you have to prove that you're not an idiot, just later to be treated as one! After almost 16 years in Canada, life, housing, and basic living necessities getting more and more unaffordable, and health care is a joke (more and more doctors are retiring, and replacing them is a huge political hassle). Jobs are nonexisting for "overqualified" people from Western Europe (since you're working more efficiently than Canadians and you can be a danger since you might let them look bad). The same for politicians and company managers: Incompetency, laziness and a "leader position" is a dangerous combination... 🤔We're looking already for other options to retire somewhere else - we don't want to collect bottles!!! 😔
I was one of those dreamers, I came to Canada 15 years ago and left my amazing career back home. I would say that 15 years ago Canada was still a promising country for new immigrants, it wasn't a walk in a park but it wasn't impossible to establish a new life and career. Back then I felt I was more welcomed, i didn't feel being descriminated. Fast forward to 2015-2018, I can already start noticing that the country political landsacpe has been changing, not sure if that was an effect of what's happening in the US. Then, the cost of living skyrocketed (especially rent), health care services is deteriorating, big cities are becoming dirty and homeless population is becoming more evident, people are not as tolerant/welcoming, Then the pandemic happened, everything just went downhill. Housing crisis, mental health crisis, rising crime rate and limited job opportunities. Studies said that for you to afford a $2800 rent in Toronto and still enjoy a good quality of life, you need to have a full-time job that pays $40/hour. I been living here for 15 years, instead of getting higher paid job (while I am grateful to still have a job), I am earning much lower than pre-pandmic. Many companies are implementing pay-cuts in spite of the rising cost of living. I don't know if Canada will ever recover, I think the future in this country for newcomers is bleak.
I think a lot of universities in Canada, Australia and to a lesser degree, the US, depend on the higher tuitions paid by international students and out-of-state students. These higher tuitions allow them to charge their in-state students less. I think that the labor market size has to be factored into the calculation if you are planning on staying in the country where the university is located. Here are the statistics I pulled: TOP 4 destinations (2020 data) for international students and the current population of the host country: (1) USA 1,075,496 students, US population 2023 = 331 million (2) UK 551,495 students, UK population 2023 = 68 million (3) Canada 503,270 students, Canada population 2023 = 39 million (4) Australia 463,643 students, Australia population 2023 = 26 million. Canada has half the number of international students as the US but a little over 1/10th the population of the US, so if we equate employment with the size of the population (not a perfect match, but at least a ballpark idea) with the number of jobs available, then the chances of an international student getting a job in the US are much higher because the population (available jobs) is 10x that of Canada but the number of international students is only 2x that of Canada. I realize there are other factors involved - it may be easier for an international student to get into the university in Australia and Canada than in the US, but if I were an international student looking at going to college in one of these 4 countries, I would have done this research first before picking where I would go to school.
I went to USA for my studies. I attended a few community colleges in Los Angeles and then a private university in Chicago back in 1990. My experience had been terrific. Nothing to complain about...smooth admission procedure, extremely helpful administration. Whereas I tried to get education in Canada first. I found the whole system very illogical and not friendly at all. So I went for USA.
my ex wife's daughter and her husband moved to canada for a better life, but could not make ends meet, spent all their saving 100,000 usd and had to come home
We had a student from Thailand last year. I told her about the cost of living in Canada but she didn’t really care. Her mom and dad have lots of money and she got a $100,000 scholarship for university. She preferred Canada because it was not as hot as Thailand. Immigrants are very competitive and willing to work hard. The students coming here are heavily backed financially. They see Canadians as their servants because we are paid to house them. Canadians will be pushed out by immigration eventually because we don’t have the salaries to compete with foreign money.
I found that I had to pay 20K for 10 courses (1 year) + 10K for a Co-op internship that I struggle to find. The tuition fees are not well explained on my university's website. But what's infuriating is that I have to pay 10K for an internship in a company that might not even know my University.
@@ImCanada yes, sadly But thank you for all the informations you provide. I wish I had discovered your channel earlier. I could have avoided these traps.
I'm an electrical engineer graduated from Waterloo university. Unfortunately, a lot of agencies in foreign countries take advantage of students and their families by having them invest in an education system that is not recognized by Canadian government. All accredited colleges and universities are recognized by the ministry of university and colleges in Canada. They all have a registration number that must be recognized and if not, then it is not an accredited university. Often they are just an informal education system that is not recognized by anyone around the world. This scam has been going on not just in Canada but around the world for years. It's up to the students and their families to do their own due diligence before investing in an education system that cost thousands of dollars. There are some very ruthless business individuals who work in these agencies, as well as these educational facilities that are not recognized. My suggestion is for you to do your research before paying a single penny and do not believe everything you hear from the agencies.
The challenge to today international students is the expensive living cost across Canada. 20 years ago was far easier to live and earn good life. The house price is too high to afford it by even local Canadian.
If it wasn’t for international students, many colleges and universities would need to close because there are enough kids going to colleges because of the high costs. Some colleges close their door in the USA because they can’t attract international students…
I came to Canada from Russia in 2013 to study Computer Science at a fairly respectable university. I must have done everything right huh? Unfortunately, no amount of research will prepare you for the brutal reality of the Canadian job market where even very experienced devs are a dime a dozen and often end up driving Uber or working as bartenders. To be fair, I did eventually find a job, and then another, got PR, Citizenship, bought a condo, yadda yadda. My life is alright now. However, the amount of stress I lived through makes it hard for me to recommend this path to anyone but the most desperate.
When you are fleeing your country with only your life to save, these inconveniences seem small. For some of us, it's either moving to Canada or dying in our home country. We're not fleeing for a better life, just for life.
The answer is to go to a consultant who helps you make an informed decision, NOT an agent. However most people don't realize the difference, and choose the services of an agent, as it is often free or cheaper than that of a consultant. Remember when something is free YOU ARE THE PRODUCT..
❤ Thanks for the informative video. It gave me a new perspective on studying in Canada. I’m happy that all studies are free in Finland for Finns and EU/EEA citizens. I’m one of the lucky ones! 🙏🏻
the planning starts when you are still in your home not when you are already in the country and when uou want help seek only either a Regulated Canadien Consultant or an Immigration lawyer and even then always double check for red flags and do your own research..that's what most imprtant the RESEARCH. I myself dealt with a greedy af regulated consultant in my country , the irony is he is truly a regulated consultant with the College of Regulated Consultants, he nevr verified my application nor even took a look at it he transfer all the work to his agents and only comes to collect the money..
I got a math bachelor and doing aerospace MEng rn, I will say finding a job won't be a big problem for me, but I'll definitely go to the US once I have a chance. Many Canadians don't understand, this country is nothing without the US. Canada does look good on some data, but this country is so dependent, it got so much fancy data because it sacrifices a lot on many other significant disciplines since Canada can just leave them to its allies. This country is like a young naive girl doing a gender studies degree, showing off how happy her life is right now while complaining about how patriarchy destroys others' life. Many states in the US are more like countries than Canada is.
When Pierre Elliott Trudeau was the Prime Minister, Canada acted independently. It opposed the Vietnam War and admitted US draft dodgers. Canada transitioned to metric system and started socialized health care system. Canada established ties with People's Republic of China. The boy is nothing like his father.
@@smwk2017 I'd say China also starts to show its political and economic disadvantages ever since Xi is in charge, US also has a lot of funny stuffs happening every year, even though Trump was a big mouth and a clown online, he actually did pretty well on the economy part and he was the one that actually did some damages to China. I think we are witnessing all the super powers and developed countries declining. I just think the US has more to last longer, and I can't see in any way that Canada will actually become a leading country in the world, at least not in my lifetime. This pandemic really exposed everyone's weaknesses, I'm not sure if all these f up things just happened coincidentally or they were caused partially by the pandemic, but I'm glad that I can have some sense of how many hypocrites and dictators are.
He mentions education services being 5.21% of GDP... However, each international student does not pay only the tuition...they also need to pay their lodging, food, transportation, and personal items. A friend of mine who successfully finished software engineering, has excellent skills and jobs with top tech companies, told me that by the time he was done with uni and before he started making money he was already about 100k down and he could not go back no matter how unhappy he was. Immigration is a business for Canada..be it international students or already educated people who come through express entry programs. Now whether it's worth it for someone depends on how bad it is where they are and how wealthy their family is. But if life is good where one is, I would say this is a futile pursuit unless one's dream is to be a nomad yappy.
Canada is a great country and gives easy pathways to PR. Canada is NOT for LAZY people who can't RESEARCH. Why would you invest thousands of dollars without personal research? No one will tell you the Pros and Cons of Canada only if you research. So if you pay an agent thousands of dollars to come to Canada and you end up in a weird situation its on YOU!. Don't just listen to one person, listen and read several blogs and be enlighten. That's the bitter truth.
It’s not bitter it’s common sense U think people pay thousands without research ??? The issue comes when people represent false reality in social media and info that skew someone perspective and research
@@ko-Daegu When you do your research you won’t fall for Bloggers, TikTok, Instagram, Social media short sweet videos about Canada that are not detailed! That’s not research! You’re deceiving yourself. Some student put all their trust in an agent and even let the agent decide on a program for them. And that’s the bitter truth!
People who work in Canada are hard working,people who work in India are lazy. Hahafa, first of all canada doesn't offer better opportunities, if 1000000000 immigrants appliead for a job for only 2% openings means it is a competitive market and remaining people can move out of Canada for better opportunity. There are very limit white collar jobs, if people are moving to Canada and just surviving on blue collar jobs for years then it is not worth it. Canada is absolutely over rated compared to other developed countries, I lived in Canada for 4 yrs and moved back to India. If i get a time and age I would try japan, germany instead.
Canada is an developing country who focus in millionaires immigrant and rich investors at the end new immigrants should find their on way to make it by a way or another best luck for everyone
I wish I had seen this video before completing my studies in Japan, because I can see similar things to this video that are being done in Japan as well.. education, is a business.
Canadian universities are very costly, In india I did MBA from good university, in my B school 95% students got job very easily in campus placements. My friends who have gone to do Masters in Canada and US paid very huge money for fees and till now nobody has decent job. Going abroad without knowing facts is very dangerous. Plan before you take action.
Good you are bringing some truth to the table, which is good for our young generations to know & understand. The life that people are expecting is completely different on the other side thus, it's about how aware are we! Anyways people are smart , it's just they ignore sometimes & now it is to see how smart are they. Truth is like an universe by itself so unlock & know it! Anyways we all learn from our mistakes & this are a lessons or experiences for reasons or say for our own growth for our wellbeing! God bless everyone!❤️🙏
I agree with you, without international students Canada would be in trouble when I studied here i paid double tution in USD is obviously a freaking business. plus when you immigrate many times they want you to get in another school program and you might still endup at Tim Hortons in a low wage job. Also beware that as an international student the government has to pay you your tax returns, can be a lot back. Without students Kingston ontario would stop existing and likely turn into a ghost town even though it was supposed to be the capital of Canada, but now is Ottawa. You have to be an entrepreneur that is the mind you need; earn, budget, invest and build an organisation.
Thanks for this video man. Students here are crazy about having education abroad which is fine when it comes to top tier universities like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, HULT, London business school etc. But the problem is students settle for very average colleges which might not be worth it. When we tell them these things they behave as if we are the ones who are naive and we don't understand the world. Basically they they think we are dumb and radical thinkers because we dare to speak against these practices done by western universities. But here people are simply delusional, they are so breainwashed that even if someone says some slightest argument against western world they think of it as a taboo.But hopefully they find this video and maybe they understand what's actually going on.
The saddest thing here is that studies agencies never consider your immigration goals whatsoever. In my case, my agency only cared about me coming to Canada to study but never cared about making a comprehensive analysis of the probabilities to become a permanent resident. They sent me to one of the most overcompetitive cities in Canada and for sure, today, I would be a permanent resident if only I would've chosen another province. So my advice from all my experience which is still making me struggle a lot everyday, is to make a conscious research based on your current situation considering your CRS score and your future goals. Don't just believe that coming to Canada, getting your diploma and getting a qualified TEER 0,1,2 or 3 job, is the only thing that you may need. Focus on labour market, labour shortages, in-demand occupations, and PNPs, and for sure you will have a better spectre on this crucial journey of your lives. For sure you will have a lot of uncertainty, stress, anxiety, but after your get your ITA, all that will be just a bittersweet memory that have proven that your could do it. One last thing, keep in mind that if you are more than 30 years old, you will lose points every year, so don't wait as I did. BTW, I'm still pursuing my dream after 4 years of having landed. Best wishes to everybody.
Thank you for sharing your experience here Mauricio, you're absolutely right about how agents do not care about your long term immigration goals although I did share with him that my personal ambition was to benefit from a PR and use it for my long term goal i.e to enrol myself in a good university to pursue my dream of becoming a psychologist in the long run and I was heard but not guided right in the sense I feel fooled because I was not aware of the fact that international students are treated as cash cows not in just one but almost certainly in most of the colleges/universities here in Canada. I was aware of the fact how bad the private colleges can get and based my research on the same fact and found CBU because it was a publicly funded DLI and here I am and my fellow mates in a situation where even a public university has acted in the same manner, I just am slowly loosing trust in this country as a whole not just as a student but overall as my future in the long run because I am very ambitious student. I am glad you shared your real life experience here and not painting just a beautiful picture and this is only going to help me and other mates decide a better long run future for ourselves and not just focus on short term dollar success. I am back to India for a mental health break and decide where to take my life on from here and already in a debt of 22k dollars that I took for my education. Also, I am not complaining but addressing a big big issue and then be focused on solutions but It is really really good to hear that you are finally pursuing your dream in good time after the struggles you put yourself through, I am so happy for you Mauricio! Thank you again!
@@vrindakhatore thanks so much for that reply. I know how difficult is this journey… I think that regardless of our age, we all suffer the same way. I’ve learned a lot from this experience and for sure I’m advising anyone who asks me about my process, but what I’m still learning about is to deal with my mental health. I must admit that I struggle to stay stable enough to go to work but the feeling of hopelessness and uncertainty is present all the time in my mind. I hope this year everything is brighter for us, the working class composed by international students and workers who invested everything to pursue this dream. Best wishes. ❤️🇨🇦
90% is these students are coming to diploma mills, and there's no one else to blame. Get admission to an actual university, and you'll see the difference right away with more diversity, career opportunities, and better education.
@@stuntbased and to be clear, this shit system will still treat you like garbage regardless of if you go degree mill or accredited university. It might seem like it hates foreigners or is racist, but it sucks for people whose ancestors have lived here for generations too. It's just the way it is.
I would say depending on what career you want and if citizenship is important to you there are other options. Few international students consider for example a college diploma in their preferred field. A diploma can be much cheaper than and ensure future acceptance to university. Yet a diploma in many countries have pathways from student to skilled migrant visa, PR and citizenship if you study an in demand occupation. Study load at college is usually lower allowing you to work part time to supplement your income. University can be pursued later with credits from your diploma and a discount if you have become a citizen (in some countries).
I have a sister in law that studies at Fanshawe college at London ON. After paying for the whole years tuition fee's they increase the annual fee's by 25% saying other charges. International students are being milked by Canadian colleges. Also what students are not told is that the Canadian Economy is not generating enough highly skilled jobs and seem to be stagnating. And when we get jobs you have to do double the work load done by usual person but get paid little more than a minimum wage worker. While our white Canadian staff work around doing almost nothing and get paid much more (They are called People managers / Coordinators). And when it comes to recruitment it is an adhoc process were they recruit people they feel like not always the best. Thanks.
Nobody said it was going to be easy. I came here in 2018 and struggled my way through but eventually made it. You can't lose focus and really push it the first 3-5 years. No matter what happens, canada is always going to be better than living in a 3rd world country. My country is listed 17 per capita crime 2023 list. Just checked. Canada isn't even in the top 100
Totally agree! If the person has good quality of life in his own country, should think and plan a lot before moving, because it is necessary to start from below.
Lol What makes you think living in Canada would always be better than living in a third world country ? I'm from Nigeria and there are millions of people living better than those who left the country for Canada. Only mentally colonised minds think like this which is exactly what they want.
@@adelabuidris6292 because I come from a third world country and I've been living in Canada for 5 years and now I'm a citizen of Canada and the benefits that I get here and also the freedom that I get here cannot be compared. Not even a question. There's no corruption like bribing everywhere, robbing people, women safety issues.
Having lived in Ontario, Canada for more then 30 years I have some perspective on this subject Majority of Canadian student go to UfT(science), Waterloo(Engineering),Queens(Commerce) and McMasters(Science) , I would not consider Sheridan as University There are 2 types of students aspiring for further studies in America/ Canada Majority of IIT students go to America for Masters Very few IIT students come to Canada for further studies The student coming to Canada apply to colleges, the degrees for these colleges have no value. Even students joining these colleges know that, they only join these colleges since they get entry to Canada Many such students drop out after 6 months, it works both ways for student and colleges. The student get a visa and colleges get revenue. I know of Students parent selling a parcel of land do that their children can go to Canada to follow their Canadian dream.
I'm Mexican, I live in Mexico and I worked at scotiabank, so basically I would do the job of a Canadian banker earning like a low wage Mexican employee, and many students are in this position not only students, regular people are struggling everyday to make ends meet, companies only want money they don't care people.
Hi there it would be greatful if make another part of this video on international students from Bangladesh. A good number of them are living a lavish lifestyle due to black money their parents have earned. But still you might find number of students facing similar educational scams.
Dear I’m canada. Great video but why the American money? I was a professor teaching in Ontario for 4 years with an incredible placement rate due to my contacts no matter their origins. What should be mentioned is: if you are an immigrant, adapt! First speak English. Secondly leverage your colleagues that are not English. Thirdly, you will exit with your fellow classmates with the same useless paperwork so you need to do more during your classes. It’s not an immigrant issue because the Canadian students succeed the same. Welcome to Canada! We love you all
I had some international student friends. They're paying $60k/year for their tuition. Computer science. And that was the fee 5 years ago. I'm sure it's even more expensive now. They are desperate to find a job after undergrad so they can maybe stay and get permanent residency. Otherwise, they get send back to China and could not come back to Canada unless they apply for immigration which can be even more costly
Moving to the US and working there is not easy for Canadians, or else 37 million Canadians would have already done it. YOU are not special, and US won't give YOU out of everyone else a citizenship to move in.
If I was an international student looking to study abroad, I’d go to Germany instead of Canada or the USA. Germany gives free tuition to international students and the cost of living is much lower than in Canada
@@hakunamatata71599 if you find your self in the correct forex or crypto space you wouldn't even bother about gofundme or support from home. At the end we are all on our own with individual choices. As a person born in third world country, we have seen it all and there suppose to be nothing stopping us from getting to the peak of our destinies despite the economy or our background.
My friends went to Canada and graduated from a university in Vancouver only to be told by the government that they were not getting their post graduation visas due to suspicions of them “not being a real student”. They had to leave as soon as they graduated and weren’t given the chance to work.
Where the international students told they had to research the costs of living in Canada? I agree with this video..but I’m Canadian and also homeless. I simply can’t understand how anyone would believe that it is all free. There is also an irony here that can’t be overlook, because an Indian student is likely from the higher echelon of India to be able to pay the price. … sigh,
@@ImCanada doesn’t do much for my life at all at the moment. So in my most humble and laymen way I say to you Mr. educated, a genius that can not tie his shoes is not a genius at all. Research does no good for the people that see a perfectly good place to build a home to sleep in? Who’s lives are you trying to save? Certainly not mine.
I am from India. My father visited Canada in 1961 on the Colombo plan. He was a chemical engineer,so visited Sarnia,Alberta and I like him fell in love with canda. Today's Canada will be very different I know but I remember the places my father visited as though I went there myself. Good genuine people.
And by moving there, and with more Indiand moving there, after falling in love with it -- because it was originated by whites, more Indians moved there and then ruined it. Get it. Do you know who are not good genuine trustworthy people -- you and your farther and your entire family. Your father was able to scam those good genuine people.
100% this, plus add in the number of domestic students with Canadian experience...... international students don't have a chance in hell........trust me I'm a Canadian and I hire people for a living, management makes sure we hire 5 to 1, meaning 5 domestic graduates to 1 International Student.....my company hires 5 students a year for entry, that's 1 International Student a year ...... GOOD LUCK
@@AdvaiticOneness1 if you have skill’s you can get job if you don’t have any skills experience you’ll end up working some blue collar jobs 98% working blue collar job if you have Canadian experience you can work here and pay higher taxes everyone should come to Canada try it out if you get referrals for IT or engineering you don’t have to start all over again from zero and your degree from back home country Canada doesn’t recognize it 😰Canada is a country bring money open your business pay higher tax that’s all here or you have to work minimum wage job and open a business or just working company and pay taxes live your life it’s always 9-5 jobs here that’s All 😰
It's freaking Sydney, Nova Scotia! If you think that a small city like Sydney in an economically depressed region is going to employ all graduates, you shouldn't be in university.
This only happens if you attend low-level post-secondary education institutions. If you attend top universities such as Waterloo, UofT, Queens, Western, etc., you will find employers trying to contact you. The only way to succeed at the highest level in a capitalist market is to prove that you are the best person for that job, therefore attending a low-level college program won't equate to automatic success.
Most of the blame should stay with the consultants in the home country and the educational institutions in Canada. Canadian government never promised anything to these students.
came here in 2011 for a msc at UofT at the cost of 11,000 Cad, graduated in 2012, got 5 offers a few months before I even graduated, immigrated in 2013, bought my first condo soon after. I mean, it depends. But I was in a very quant field and I was top of my class. My starting salary in 2012 was 75,000 plus pension and benefits and I work about 6 hours a day lol
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Give me a list of On demand Engineering jobs marketable in Canada
The “Canadian dream” for these immigrants is to go to America!… Otherwise, there is no such thing as a “Canadian dream”!
To those who went to Canada for university: Congratulations on surviving your first week without being arrested for hurting someone's feelings and disobeying strict socialist values! Many don't make it far past the airport.
The Indian accent is the proper way that English should be spoken. The Indian race is the superior race.
@@meowchat6175 😂 Stop eating so much curry because all the spices have gone to your head!
Came to Canada from Russia in 2012, was already an educated IT professional with 5 years of work experience, went through school (2 year program just to be able to get the PR). Fast forward to today, I live in Florida making a descent living and owning 2 houses. Thanks to my Canadian passport, I was able to get here on TN visa as a Canadian citizen. Otherwise this would have been a lot more challenging.
Yeah, the reason I go Canada is to go America.
Almost every computer science engineering people I know, domestic or international, went to or are going to the states
Canadian brain drain is absolutely real and a shame. We lose a lot of intelligent individuals to the states since it just makes more sense for those who can - to simply cross the border and triple their income and potentially reduce their COL. It's a really unfortunate problem and I really don't see a good solution.
Красава!
How much time it take to get the canadian citizenship?
How did you move to Florida and the US? Do you have an idea about thr job market in Florida? And the business opportunities in Florida?
I am an engineer with European education (France and the Netherlands), and I work as a manager in an industrial company in Algeria.
Thank you in advance for the info snd advice..
This is great content, there are UA-camrs that moved to Canada but have a lot of money and they are deceiving people by showing them their incredible huge houses and incredible lives, I hope that more people sees videos like this before moving to Canada.
These so called UA-camrs don't give the true picture ...even they lie about their so called money ...they never even give the true picture ...one such idiot is Potato Talkies
like which one?
Appreciate it!
Most of those people must have started from scratch when they landed here. Not everyone wants to talk about that though.
I completely agree. They are promoting a dream life in Canada but it’s all false. Probably ones that came 4 years back could buy cheap housing are relatively better. But still they have a tough life but they will never mention on their UA-cam channel.
Canada needs young immigrants to pay taxes/CPP to our wealthy boomer population and to keep our real estate pyramid scheme going. I was born in Canada and want to have a family but it is not possible for me in Canada. I would love to leave.
Yeah you’re right
Indeed, the real estate is just crazy. A very less populated country but still can't have a stable real estate market.
That's why I don't want to study there anymore
Did you vote for Trudeau?
True though
I went to an international school in Singapore and I remember a representative from UBC came over to give a presentation to those who were interested in studying in Canada and I remember specifically that they placed a heavy focus on immigration. Compared to talks I heard from other university representatives from UK, US and Australia, the UBC representative made it a large selling point that if you graduate from UBC you have an easy path towards permanent residence and citizenship. Now, considering that people in my school came from well off households and did academically very well, it seemed like the main selling point to study at UBC compared to perhaps an elite school in America or Britain was an easier path towards citizenship, which was likely why most people who attended the UBC lecture if they weren't Canadian were nationals from places like China or India who have weak passports.
While everyone I know who went to study in Canada is doing well, this is basically because they all went to top unis and have very well off parents. It's a shame that those who perhaps come from a lower income background and live in poorer countries get preyed on by certain bad actors for the promise of a better life.
I think in nowadays, most Chinese nationals will go back to China when they finished their study in Canada or the U.S. because the opportunities they will have in China compared to in Canada or US are like day vs. night. Just forced my bro in law moved back to Shanghai from Australia and the opportunities he having in Shanghai is not something he can even dream of in Australia……of course, this only applies to motivated people, lazy asses don’t apply.
well that's what canada is all about immigration, thy exploit these people from their fist 5 year in the country, if you manage to surviv then pay it forward it is your turn to abouse the ones who come fresh of the boat!
Tell the students to have a class action suit against Sean fraser !
As parent from US, I can assure you UBC is an elite school, selling is not lying at least. Immigration is on the mind of many asian parents.
Singapore's passport ranking is high. Most Singaporeans in Canada made citizenship an option because of the 100 page passports and also Singapore's non dual citizenship policy making it difficult for the compelling reason for citizenship. Getting a job needs the student not playing around in summer and get into the co-op course to secure their first student employment. Get the work attitudes right with the employer for employability and a good record for the resume.
You need to look for courses that need people in it. There is no point in getting to "popular" courses. Get employed and then think about passion later in life. Put money on the table first then other things as options. They are considered risky, money helps mitigate the risk better.
Canadian here. My undergrad (engineering) had mostly Canadians but graduate studies are mainly international students for the university I went to. I do think foreigners get preyed upon by unis, so that is true. However, a lot of the students that come here are from well off families and expect to be handed everything like they are used to. The ones with hustle tend to do better. The economy hasn't been great the last decade or so and many Canadians are also struggling. The cost of living is outrageous now for us too. I have friends I've met that were international students (engineering) and I'd say most are doing alright. I do think the program and uni you study matters for job prospects. Also, I've had to move around to small centers for employment to gain experience. The major cities are more competitive for jobs and typically want more experienced candidates.
Good points you mentioned Scott
Maybe your problems stem from the fact that you don't know how to spell "centre".
International pharmacist here. Is pharmacy a good field to work in Canada?
@@theophilusoteng6753
Well the illicit pharmaceuticals industry are always looking for talented cooks, chemists, and quality control experts, they pay very well and aren't too particular about where you got your degree from.
I came to Montreal in 2018. Got my PR in 2022 and I work for a big company now with a stable salary. It was a long, hard journey. International students should understand that the first 3-4 years will be unbelievably taxing, and that pressure usually forces you to build a skillset so that you can show how you can be of use to any employer. Many can't handle this pressure and I don't blame them, it gets tough and lonely and the winters are unforgiving(some go back, some perish in vices, and some find alternate professions). If you are someone on the brink, hold on, do what is good for you, and show up for yourself, going back isn't a failure, it's just part of your journey.
Good point
How do you get your pr that quick? Is it because you came from french speaking countries?
Can I ask for your kind opinion? Was it worth it? Cause I have to decide on going to Canada as an international student asap🥴🤦
Go back home
Hi! I am an Indian student as well studying at Alexander College, British Columbia. When I saw the schools website and social media all I saw was diversity but it wasn't until I started classes that I came face to face with the reality. 90% of the students are Indian here and diversity is like none. 5% would be Asian, 1% Latin and the rest is Canadian only faculty. I am yet to meet a Canadian student and I have been attending classes for 3 weeks now.
That aside I was fed with the fake promises of getting a job easily as well but I have been unemployed for 1 month even after applying for 100+ jobs (mostly bartending as I have certification and qualification). I have also applied for other minimum wage jobs but no luck so far.
For housing, I would say I got really lucky to get a place as soon as I came otherwise it is really hard as well. Still the place is 1 hour away from my college.
I think you already know the answer. But let me state it again: For Canadians, international students are source of income
Most of the college PG Diploma was made by Canadian Government for local population who are weak in studies or dont have job - So they do this PG Diploma and get some job and pay government back in form of taxes.
Indians and other student immigrants found this loop hole in system and they started exploiting it.
Education or Degree is for life. I see very few Indian students going to Proper Universities in Canada and do Masters or Bachelors. They choose for easy and less expensive PG Diploma - Most of them will end up doing labour jobs or low paying jobs all there rest of life.
Bruh, most Indians I know in Canada, are working in some good fields. Don't be a fool, and tell your story.
@@Pulkit__7 Bruh what are most Indians??? Give me some numbers in figure......................Last year 2 Lakh Indian students came into Canada. Surely from that 10,000 will have good job and career................what about rest 190,000 students????
Most people I know, likely 80% of people. You need to compete in life man. No one will come and give you stuff. Change your friends and meet people who want to succeed in life. We are not here as labourers. I know people who are really really lazy, and if they are even given an opportunity to work just 8 hours a day for a year, and they will earn millions, they still won't work at all. Don't be like this.
I came to Canada in 2014 to study in Quebec university, I landed a job before graduation and I’ve been working since. I even started a business while working full time. I’m now a citizen of Canada and my two kids are born in Canada. I worked very hard to get all this and I did my research before coming to Canada.
Bottom line, you need much more than just education to succeed in Canada or anywhere else. Wasting your parents money hoping to become wealthy in a foreign country is a suicide mission.
Yeah, it's possible but takes a character
2014 is almost 10 years ago. Things might have changed since.
My friend, do you not see your mind is in a bubble? Its embarrassing. The year is 2023, not 2014, canada is trying to bring like 400,000 immigrants to canada when it was probably like 90k in your time. Prices are different, everything is different. The fact that you're ignoring that makes you look very ignorant
@@ImCanada you're Canada. That's wassup
Controversial, one-side argument drives traffic to videos. It is what far right/neo-nazi has done for a very long time on this platform.
I stayed and lived in Canada for 9 years since I was 14 years old. I left the country as I couldn't find any job availabilities that are attractive enough as compared to a lucrative job in countries like Singapore.
It depends on the industry
In the era of interconnectivity and globalization the competition is throat-cutting everywhere. Basically you need to be upping your game all the time to gain that edge employers and businesses are looking for, something that sets you apart. Easier said than done, but one thing Max said, you have to fight for your place. That statement goes everywhere. Whether in Canada or anywhere else in the world.
It's a dream, I've seen a lot of people make it. But that success came to them after insane sacrifices and struggle.
It's a nightmare for a lot too, those who believed just going to Canada will be the beautiful end to all their life's struggle back home and everything will be handed to them on a silver platter.
Yes, I'm preparing a video about this. Coming on Sunday :)
Never heard anyone on their death bed wishing they slogged harder at work.
Thank you for covering this painful side of studying in Canada.
I would like to share my experience since I have been here since 2021. The school where I study is a legislated university where students can get a work permit after graduation. However, there is no diversity as they usually describe. Approx. 75-80 percent of students from India and Bangladesh are from other Asian countries. I have never seen local students. It is the wrong way to misinform international students who come with big dreams. Personally, I expected to meet a more diverse student community. Another issue is that job ads usually require so-called Canadian experience even though you have more than five years of experience in the same field in your home country. I am wondering how it is possible to gain that Canadian experience when they do not provide for us with some opportunity.
You are getting diversity with Indian, Bangladesh and other Asian countries students, what diversity are you missing? Africans? Lations?
@@SkankHunt-iz1nl where is the diversity when you move from India and the school you join also has 90% Indians?
CANADA is just a Shithole.. US is also another shithole.. They will screw people up and tax people.. They are never going to give any PR or citizenship... Better look for other good countries or a nice job in India itself
@@SkankHunt-iz1nl stop playing dumb you know exactly what he means.
You Indians are complaining about jobs I've been to India.Indians Never give jobs to foreigner. It's 99% impossible as an immigrant to get a job in India so stop spoiling other people's countries with immigrant
I'm glad this topic is getting more attention. Too many young lives being taken advantage of.
Will make more content around this
@@ivanhoewindsor4749 I'm a white Canadian taxpayer so I don't know who you think you are addressing.
And yes, they (Indians) do use education to get into Canada. But the Canada they are told about doesn't exist. Sad truth but if it's too good to be true it usually is.
Nobody held a gun to their head. It's driven by greed and promise of shortcuts.
As always hardwork gets you ahead in life. Shortcuts lead to ruin.
@@harinathlakku You are absolutely right. 💯
Young and old you mean...
I'm a Canadian and I've met a lot of international students and I've become friends with quite a few of them (they are all amazing people). I always feel bad for them because how much Canadian universities rip them off by the universities here. Everything is more expensive for them and it always makes me mad because of how much they get overcharged
Seriously? You feel sorry for them? You should feel sorry for us Canadians. Most international students are rich af. And PR is handed to them like a piece of candy. So stop feeling sorry them and start feeling sorry for Canadians who live paycheque to paycheque!
@@I34R yes I do feel sorry for them, and I have yet to meet any international student who is rich. I also never said that I don’t feel sorry for fellow Canadians; this video was about international students, so my comment was about international students. If the video was purely about domestic students, then I would’ve left a similar comment about the situation for domestic students.
Yes, because all the taxes that the international student pay in Canada should allow them to have the same rates as Canadians right? Oh wait..
@@ElPenetrator21 funny that people are mad at international students not paying taxes (even though they do), but never mention the super wealthy getting away without paying their fair share.
@@krypto-s-olus So international students pay taxes? On what income? Not going to entertain the strawman argument about the 'rich' people.
I think the best way to succeed in canada is to do a lot of research on your own ; go for cheaper schools ; go for strategic courses that would finally lead you to PR ; network while in school go for job fairs meet people ; check the school and the province ; every school would tell you that they have high acceptance rates etc
Canada is a DIY country and process ✨
Thank you. The motivation
For sure!
Sorry for asking, what is PR?
@@elieh.studio permanent Residence
Very nice input. But I don't really recommend to go for cheaper schools (without considering the school's reputation). Your school plays a huge role in landing a better job afterward, of course, this is not true for everyone many factors still have to be considered, but employers look at the school you attended. Cheaper does not always mean inferior, but most of the time it's the case. I went for a "better" school with the expense of spending more money on tuition than a normal student would. One year into the program I have received offers already from different companies in the city I live in. Some of the offers are even coming from my instructors. Which surprised me given the fact that I still have a year before I finish my program. Moreover, my instructors are really competent, and they take teaching really seriously. While some of my friends from "cheaper" school are busy filming TikTok, I'm burning the midnight oil doing school works.
Yeah, you tell the truth! All of these are true.
I'm not a student here just an International experience engineer, it's tough to find a job and it is hard to find everybody here to work for a serious and focused on a high qualities company. Canadian companies have bad efficiency.
The government does not have a true long-term planning. The Parties just got the power to make their own famous.
I think overall the strategy is great but it needs some tailoring
My experience might be different. I came in Canada in 2011, did a bachelor degree in a small town of Moncton. Yes school was 10K$-11K$/year but housing wasn’t expensive. As soon as I finished, I moved to Quebec and landed a job in my field and since the I got every jobs I wanted so my experience in Canada has been really good! My sister who’s in Ottawa has the same experience as I. She landed a job at Desjardins when studying and got promoted as financial advisor as soon as she finished a month ago. I’m thankful about those opportunities to be honest. In a long term I’m planning to leave here. The only thing for me is that there’s not enough benefits working wise as in Europe (less vacation days, no restaurant ticket, etc..), other than that, I’m grateful.❤
Yes you’re right the vacation policies here are dogshit. I work full time in a technical field. We started with 2 weeks vacation, got another week at 1 year, but we don’t get a 4th week until 15 years!! Im 9 years in but m looking for options abroad at this point.
@@zanetusken exactly me too. My cousin and some friends in Europe, they freaking have a month from the jump+20 paid rest days😂( basically if you work 40h/week, you can have 28.5 days because their full time limit there is 35h/week)+an amount that they can use as for vacation (about 500€)+restaurants tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel like I’m Canada, employees don’t have much benefits to be honest. In some places, you can’t even take your whole 3weeks one shot! Also during summer and end of the year, it’s like a war zone with colleagues just so you can have some days off.
My cousin’s employer gave them 1 paid day off just because he thought the stuff have worked Hard during last summer 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Yeah when she told me I was like aight, I need to move! Btw I am in Compliance (financial securities)🤗
Glad you like it
@@zanetusken I got 6 weeks the first year at my job and I can accumulate up to 8 weeks in Québec. But that's like the best condition in the whole province I suppose.
@@charlolel well everyone has his own view of what is important. I prefer to have more time off with even less money to enjoy than having more money and no time to enjoy it. And also the exemples that I have are my friends whom have a salary way above the minimum wage and were able to buy a house in France and a big one and are enjoying their time off.
In Canada, I also have a salary way above 80K a year but 3weeks to a month isn’t enough!
I'm Canadian, born and raised. I'm so ashamed of my government. We promote immigration but treat the most useful immigrants that need to work the worst. Even doctors and nurses. Realistically we cater to the elites from foreign countries that are maybe laundering in real estate and neglecting those that have real skills and just need to be setup and then will provide long term gains in regards to taxes. This is a shameful business practice as there are so many that want to come here and not speculate but live a regular life in peace and harmony. On top of this the foreign agents are sketchy as well. I don't understand how trained doctors are driving ubers. It's disgusting. Let's fix this.
You have a point
Yet, minimum wage security guards and janitors have all made their way here. Canada has willingly turned itself into a third world country.
Very nice video, ultimately agents are not bad but you should always remember how they make money. In Kenya, I went to some agents who say they are free but they get commissions from pretty expensive schools in Canada, from my own research I was able to find much more affordable schools and if you are serious enough I think you can apply by yourself. Doing a lot of research on where you are going, jobs available in that city and reviews are also critical.
Yes, good pov
Bro niaje, ebu nisaidie atamm natafuta shule. How did you go about it.
@ian ngugi Bro me to natafuta cheapest college Canada. Tufanye contact
I believe that if future students make the research themselves instead of using agencies who sell false dreams they could narrow down lots of things and manage their expectations way better.
For sure!
I agree. I had a friend from China and it’s actually the agencies over there that are selling the dream, not any specific university. Sometimes it’s basically a scam to get people with money to pay for this dream.
I did my own research, all the paperwork I did it directly myself. Still a scam. Simply put: it's government propaganda. To sell "the dream". Top government involved in that. Everything you see and read outside Canada depict a wonderland.
I have Nigerian and Indian friends that enrolled in universities in the Philippines. They said the teachers are always present and they are smart and approachable. The tuition fees are cheap yet they received quality education. The only thing they despise is they always have quizzes and tests, and group activities. (They are nursing , med-tech, and medical students.)
No Indian students are going to Canada to actually study. They go there to stay there and never come back.
Quizzes keep you on your toes and study aware
I'm from India. But I don't consider myself Indian coz opportunity low and youth population is 50% of entire population so you can't imagine the insane competition level.
I'm from the Philippines and this is so true. Add in some South Korean and Iranians as well all studying in Medical schools.
@@Jumlebaaz_Feku_Ayega_2024 pakistani bot teri maka b@$da
Pls, we need a 'thorough' review on colleges in Ontario since most colleges are in that province. Good job so far
Thanks! Will do!
@@ImCanadaLooking forward to it
Canada is quite hard for young students as studying and working is not easy. Nevertheless, Canada has become a very interesting opportunity for people already married as one can study and the other one works.
Yeah, good point
And considering nobody can afford a home on one income, they will live where?
@@jeremybenoit759I also would worry if one income while the other completes studies is feasible
I'm a bit worried it won't get any better. Besides having to worry about paying any outstanding tuition, sticker shock is quite a reality for most, if not all, international students. When I came to Vancouver from Mexico in July 2021, I was immensely surprised by just how expensive everything seems to be in Canada; from general services to day-to-day transactions, I found it was pretty hard to save. I was lucky enough to get a good job after graduating from my masters program, but even then, it was hard to keep up with the rising cost of *literally* everything. I ultimately decided to leave Canada for good and, as a Mexican national, benefitted from the TN visa program in the US. I still reminisce how much quality of life I had in Vancouver, though, but no matter how beautiful the city is, it's just not that livable with its gouging cost of living.
Yes, you need to high-paying job / business
Came to Canada as an International Student in a small city in Northern BC.
Graduated in 2017 (spent about ~$23k in tuition) and landed a job as a Software Dev making 60k.
Became a PR the next year (2018) and bought my wife in (also became a PR the same time I did).
Moved to the Lower Mainland in BC for more job opportunities.
Fast forward to today and I make ~100k.
Applied for Citizenship and will be taking the test in a few days.
Once I get my Citizenship certificate, I'm flying back home. Canada is too expensive.
Edit: For those who are missing the point of my message, YES, I am doing WELL on paper BUT despite all that, my wife and I are barely surviving here because of the high cost of living. We're not even in Vancouver, we're in Surrey (relatively cheaper). If you need specifics, Alex's video has it - ua-cam.com/video/zqyRp6pAwu8/v-deo.html
So why are you flying back home?
You're doing so well though
@@mehulmonisha in BC?
@@jokwon7343 True, BC has higher living costs but 6 figures should be enough, no?
@@mehulmonisha Not at all. This video can explain it 10x better than I can -
ua-cam.com/video/zqyRp6pAwu8/v-deo.html
Am A Nigerian and I will be going to Canada this year for my master's program. I was told to learn work skills even as I am already a fashion designer. Am learning how to braid hair and taking some classes in Digital Marketing, graphics design, website development, etc. People should do their research and get ready when moving to a new place.
Best of luck! Good insight
😂
@@robynhood9663 ?
Do you have fake undergrad degree?
@@mjor6406 are you normal?
Think the Gov is getting some sort of kickback from Cdn colleges. My bro paid about 6K/Y for his semester at Fanshawe college, The same semester for a temp foreign student was over $24,000- Cdn, + accommodation, food, etc expenses, but never mind the college, The main focus is the easy transition to work permit >>> P.R and almost none of the Int students ever return home after graduation. He told me that almost 100% of the students were from India / China, so Colleges are targeting over-populated states to bring in as many young/English speaking ppl as possible. While other countries are supporting their own citizens to have kids and a family, Canada's liberals think this is is a great solution to an ageing population in Canada, Revolting sh!t, if you ask me..
It's an economical solution for sure
We came to Canada last year and it's been a bit hard because we are a family of 4. The cost of living is way more than it was when we budgeted for it, it is unbelievable how fast it increased in less than a year. The job we have barely lets us pay rent and eat but I do have to say there are a lot of oportunities here. We moved from Peru since the social, political and economic situation were bad and it continues to worsen as I write this. We wanted a better life for our kids and Canada gave us the possibility, it has not been easy but considering everything it is much better than the turmoil in South America. The biggest difference is that there are jobs here in Canada and ways to improve if you really want to do so, some are dirty trade jobs but they pay well and that is what I am aiming for so I can make some money and get PR and then citizenship. I do want to stress that it is possible to make money here but you have to learn to save and invest it, rate of return on investment here is much higher than in Perú and if you play your cards right you can retire with dignity. Another option after citizenship is to go to the States too, somewhere woth low taxes and affordable real state. Buying a house in Canada is no longer an option apparently, it is way too expensive for too little.
I imagine, it can be difficult but after a few years you grow your network and feel more confident in your future
no house for you. please go to burger king for job.
@@888ssss ha ha ..
why are you calling trade jobs, "dirty" ?
What kind of investments are you talking about? Can you give an example?
Being an immigrant in Canada is no bed of roses. It’s extremely hard.
Yes
This is very informative. Expectation vs reality. Good to know what to expect. An informed decision will prepare the migrant.
Thanks!
I’m a Born and Raised Nova Scotian, and this Province is basically the Hotel California; check in any time you want, but you can never leave. Hope to God I can move overseas to give my kids a better life
lol
I am an international undergrad studying in the US. I just wanna say your success depends on you. I don't know how it works in Canada. But if you fail in the US, you fail. They are not gonna pass you. I have seen a few international students fail last semester. I am pretty sure, the comeback is VERY hard once you fail. You need to pay money again, and maybe even have to take an extra semester. College/study is never easy. FYI, there is barely any international undergrad in my uni.
If you are good at studying and determined, just believe in yourself
You are right
Can’t you just retake the class you failed? Or get extra credits?
In Canada they are quite loyal to international students
@@ImCanada of course, it's part of the GDP....as Mexico relies on remittance sent back from America as part of their GDP too...
@@naomikissedme yea but you have to pay enormous amounts again, not practical unless you rich to begin with
It's really helping to know how bad things r for our brothers and sisters trying to live there dream.but hope things get better for us .in a few years to come...am from Uganda 🇺🇬 and I follow your content all time coz I know it will help me one time
It'll be great if you work hard and smart for it :)
I am an international student living in Ontario, all of this is TRUE, living is extremely costly, specially housing. However I think it is possible to success, possible but not easy. I live well I am a software engineer, however at home my quality of life was better. I can always go back but I have a Canadian passport to get.
Good point
I would be ashamed to be canadian really. Those people have no values.
Hope it was not that challanging to receive job as a software engineer? Are you studying full time while working?
🤔🤔 the experience as a international student is very subjective. Many people fail and many success really fast. The important to know if you want to come to Canada as a student is do your homework read and gather all the info to really know what you can face here, plan your budget and will be smooth and easy, and don't trust the agencies. I studied 3 years pay full price and I was working part time, didn't have to share room I lived plenty well even during covid. I graduated and I found a professional job super fast that even I was picking the company because many of them want me. Future international student don't worry ! it won't be easy but if you are prepare will be worthy 😊
True
im a nurse working in Qatar i always wanted to come over Canada but as nurse. Therefore i went to an agency who were trying to convince me to be an international student in order to go there and after 2 years i can apply for permanent visa and stay there. Fortunately, i planed carefully about this and found that will pay more than i should do. So i decided to apply for work permit and be nurse aid first, go there, and later i can apply for RN.
Good for you!
A nurse’s aid salary is not enough to live in Canada. You will work 3 jobs to pay rent and utilities and food. Tbh work where you are now and invest your hard earned money. Do your homework before going to Canada.
@@gardenrxpert6573 I'm not going to Canada I'm planning to go US better payments
You English is horrible. Maybe consider staying in Qatar.
@@salmajama9431USA has same situation worst
Great video, in 2017 I went there, sold my car and leaving behind my life in my country and study and live a new life in Canada. How disappointed I was, I spent 6 months there, enough, to see the scam the country is, you spend a lot lot of money in education, certification and they get a high skilled worker working in their minimum wage jobs!!; then you see the unemployment, the weather, the house prices and live the rent prices!!!
I'm preparing a video about this. Coming on Sunday :)
And the Trudeau tyranny... ask the truckers.
Canada long ago worked out that University entry was a backdoor means of obtaining citizenship. Other countries have also come to this deduction. If you are prepared to keep the nation's universities in business, you are welcome to come in. Don't forget to pay your fees!
Yes, good point
I used to consider studying in Canada but I gave up on this idea because my home is just too far away and I cannot leave it behind just like that (I'm Eastern European). However, I still consider studying abroad so I do a lot of research online and I always, I mean always, stumble upon websites\articles advertising enrolment agencies for Indian students, and I would always be like why is this here? You know, 'cause I'm not Indian :D And the search engines usually pick the options that suit you based on your research history, location, etc. But only now I realized that I see those so often because there're tons of them out there..
Thanks for sharing this
Plus India has huge population which is between 16-35
@@ricianeseaninformationchan6418 yeah, that certainly makes sense, as in the more people are interested in a service, there will be more people providing that service, but still, there are more people interested in studying abroad than the population of india I believe.. and I always look for information in English, the fact that all those websites are in English tho, I assume there're a lot of English speaking people in India due to India being a Britain's colony in the past, I've never acknowledged that untill this moment, you learn more everyday..
@@xen2924 that is true, since i have Indian friends they either opted to study in Europe if they no student debt. May i ask what course you are interested into? I am looking into POLMI Italy for UX designer
@@ricianeseaninformationchan6418 oh what a coincidence, I too am interested in UX design!:D I want to study graphic design and UX design but I'm applying everywhere I can so later on I can choose between the options I have and go for the most convenient one
This is a superb content, well done for the hard work to accomplished this. Max thanks for wonderful and exponential enlightenment and insight.
Anyone who is not lazy, hard and smart working will make it to the top, Canada and her PR gives you a platform that you can't get within a shortest period of time (2 years) from any country to work your way to global top.
Appreciate the feedback ❤️
@@ImCanada please suggest any pg non technical courses to get job at higher chances
which i pursue before went Canada
Thanks for making me aware of these things. I am a running bachelor's student from Bangladesh and am planning to give a try to go abroad to countries like Canada, USA, or Australia. Now I've to be more careful with that so-called agencies. Although I'm doing so much research myself, watching this video was also a part of my research.
Don't go to Canada without realizing that the Canadian population, in general, are typically well educated and have education often above the job that they do. Canadian citizen living the in US.
:)
Don't think about coming to UK as well, at least this year.
@@elijahheisenberg1672 why ?
Is getting PR in UK so hard?
I always get only negative news about the UK in terms of studying
@@ayat5483 don't know about PR but lot of students are facing issue with getting part time jobs. I have seen lot of Oct 2022 intake students struggling to get part time. The major reason being that lot of student getting admitted to smaller town Uni along with that influx of large number of international students. I would suggest students that if you are planning to study in UK then choose Uni in major cities with big population in that getting part time will be easier.
What great content ya Max, I am so intrigued by your creativity skills and I already said this but thank you again for giving me a voice to be heard to talk about the current reality in 2022 about international studies in Canada. I love this video and it is already doing it's job, so many academic oriented students have bene reaching out to me and are now trying to put in more in-depth research about if they should pursue their education here or not and it is definitely a worthwhile thought. This video has already helped people and is going to be helping in many possible ways! :)
Didi ne Manipal University se Degree lee hai..................Guess she dont know its a garbage University in India and now came to another garbage PG Diploma for easy PR......................😂 😂 😂 😂
Hi! For sure, great that we got to amplify this matter :)
@vrindakhatore - Hey, just wanted to give my support to you. It takes courage to be overt and highlight these issues. All the very best for your endeavors!
It's not only about studying but also about working: To immigrate you have to prove that you're not an idiot, just later to be treated as one! After almost 16 years in Canada, life, housing, and basic living necessities getting more and more unaffordable, and health care is a joke (more and more doctors are retiring, and replacing them is a huge political hassle). Jobs are nonexisting for "overqualified" people from Western Europe (since you're working more efficiently than Canadians and you can be a danger since you might let them look bad). The same for politicians and company managers: Incompetency, laziness and a "leader position" is a dangerous combination... 🤔We're looking already for other options to retire somewhere else - we don't want to collect bottles!!! 😔
Yeah, good point
I was one of those dreamers, I came to Canada 15 years ago and left my amazing career back home. I would say that 15 years ago Canada was still a promising country for new immigrants, it wasn't a walk in a park but it wasn't impossible to establish a new life and career. Back then I felt I was more welcomed, i didn't feel being descriminated. Fast forward to 2015-2018, I can already start noticing that the country political landsacpe has been changing, not sure if that was an effect of what's happening in the US. Then, the cost of living skyrocketed (especially rent), health care services is deteriorating, big cities are becoming dirty and homeless population is becoming more evident, people are not as tolerant/welcoming, Then the pandemic happened, everything just went downhill. Housing crisis, mental health crisis, rising crime rate and limited job opportunities. Studies said that for you to afford a $2800 rent in Toronto and still enjoy a good quality of life, you need to have a full-time job that pays $40/hour. I been living here for 15 years, instead of getting higher paid job (while I am grateful to still have a job), I am earning much lower than pre-pandmic. Many companies are implementing pay-cuts in spite of the rising cost of living. I don't know if Canada will ever recover, I think the future in this country for newcomers is bleak.
Hi! there's great opportunities outside Toronto
I think a lot of universities in Canada, Australia and to a lesser degree, the US, depend on the higher tuitions paid by international students and out-of-state students. These higher tuitions allow them to charge their in-state students less. I think that the labor market size has to be factored into the calculation if you are planning on staying in the country where the university is located. Here are the statistics I pulled:
TOP 4 destinations (2020 data) for international students and the current population of the host country:
(1) USA 1,075,496 students, US population 2023 = 331 million
(2) UK 551,495 students, UK population 2023 = 68 million
(3) Canada 503,270 students, Canada population 2023 = 39 million
(4) Australia 463,643 students, Australia population 2023 = 26 million.
Canada has half the number of international students as the US but a little over 1/10th the population of the US, so if we equate employment with the size of the population (not a perfect match, but at least a ballpark idea) with the number of jobs available, then the chances of an international student getting a job in the US are much higher because the population (available jobs) is 10x that of Canada but the number of international students is only 2x that of Canada.
I realize there are other factors involved - it may be easier for an international student to get into the university in Australia and Canada than in the US, but if I were an international student looking at going to college in one of these 4 countries, I would have done this research first before picking where I would go to school.
Thank you for your comment
I went to USA for my studies. I attended a few community colleges in Los Angeles and then a private university in Chicago back in 1990. My experience had been terrific. Nothing to complain about...smooth admission procedure, extremely helpful administration. Whereas I tried to get education in Canada first. I found the whole system very illogical and not friendly at all. So I went for USA.
Wow! Really?
Great work Sir. Thanks for keeping prospective students like me informed. Sad you tore real money though. It would have been of great use.
Hi! Thank you for the comment, it was prop money, I wouldn't do it to real money, so irresponsible
my ex wife's daughter and her husband moved to canada for a better life, but could not make ends meet, spent all their saving 100,000 usd and had to come home
Wow! From where?
We had a student from Thailand last year. I told her about the cost of living in Canada but she didn’t really care. Her mom and dad have lots of money and she got a $100,000 scholarship for university. She preferred Canada because it was not as hot as Thailand. Immigrants are very competitive and willing to work hard. The students coming here are heavily backed financially. They see Canadians as their servants because we are paid to house them. Canadians will be pushed out by immigration eventually because we don’t have the salaries to compete with foreign money.
True, some are, but some are not
I found that I had to pay 20K for 10 courses (1 year) + 10K for a Co-op internship that I struggle to find.
The tuition fees are not well explained on my university's website.
But what's infuriating is that I have to pay 10K for an internship in a company that might not even know my University.
Yeah, it's just a gateway for the work permit essentially
@@ImCanada yes, sadly
But thank you for all the informations you provide.
I wish I had discovered your channel earlier. I could have avoided these traps.
I'm an electrical engineer graduated from Waterloo university. Unfortunately, a lot of agencies in foreign countries take advantage of students and their families by having them invest in an education system that is not recognized by Canadian government. All accredited colleges and universities are recognized by the ministry of university and colleges in Canada. They all have a registration number that must be recognized and if not, then it is not an accredited university. Often they are just an informal education system that is not recognized by anyone around the world. This scam has been going on not just in Canada but around the world for years. It's up to the students and their families to do their own due diligence before investing in an education system that cost thousands of dollars. There are some very ruthless business individuals who work in these agencies, as well as these educational facilities that are not recognized. My suggestion is for you to do your research before paying a single penny and do not believe everything you hear from the agencies.
Research is crucial, it can save lives!
The challenge to today international students is the expensive living cost across Canada. 20 years ago was far easier to live and earn good life. The house price is too high to afford it by even local Canadian.
True, it's global though
If it wasn’t for international students, many colleges and universities would need to close because there are enough kids going to colleges because of the high costs. Some colleges close their door in the USA because they can’t attract international students…
Yes, thank you for your comment
Golden rule: Never trust an agent. Research and apply to colleges online by yourself. Know what you are getting into.
Facts
I came to Canada from Russia in 2013 to study Computer Science at a fairly respectable university. I must have done everything right huh? Unfortunately, no amount of research will prepare you for the brutal reality of the Canadian job market where even very experienced devs are a dime a dozen and often end up driving Uber or working as bartenders. To be fair, I did eventually find a job, and then another, got PR, Citizenship, bought a condo, yadda yadda. My life is alright now. However, the amount of stress I lived through makes it hard for me to recommend this path to anyone but the most desperate.
When you are fleeing your country with only your life to save, these inconveniences seem small. For some of us, it's either moving to Canada or dying in our home country. We're not fleeing for a better life, just for life.
Yes, in some cases
That’s the only scenario in which I could recommend moving here…
Great work. More transparency is needed for international students
Thanks!
@@ImCanada message me separately id like to connect and share my views
The answer is to go to a consultant who helps you make an informed decision, NOT an agent. However most people don't realize the difference, and choose the services of an agent, as it is often free or cheaper than that of a consultant. Remember when something is free YOU ARE THE PRODUCT..
Consultants and lawyers do the same
That it's cold and dreary ¾th of the year, and boring year round?
Where do you live??
@@ImCanada I live on the Island of the Gods, the island of Bali, in Indonesia. 😉
❤ Thanks for the informative video. It gave me a new perspective on studying in Canada. I’m happy that all studies are free in Finland for Finns and EU/EEA citizens. I’m one of the lucky ones! 🙏🏻
:)
Indians look at universities abroad as immigration gateways not places to study a subject. What else do they expect?
Yeah, that's the problem
the planning starts when you are still in your home not when you are already in the country and when uou want help seek only either a Regulated Canadien Consultant or an Immigration lawyer and even then always double check for red flags and do your own research..that's what most imprtant the RESEARCH.
I myself dealt with a greedy af regulated consultant in my country , the irony is he is truly a regulated consultant with the College of Regulated Consultants, he nevr verified my application nor even took a look at it he transfer all the work to his agents and only comes to collect the money..
For sure, it's hard to find decent people these days
I got a math bachelor and doing aerospace MEng rn, I will say finding a job won't be a big problem for me, but I'll definitely go to the US once I have a chance.
Many Canadians don't understand, this country is nothing without the US. Canada does look good on some data, but this country is so dependent, it got so much fancy data because it sacrifices a lot on many other significant disciplines since Canada can just leave them to its allies.
This country is like a young naive girl doing a gender studies degree, showing off how happy her life is right now while complaining about how patriarchy destroys others' life.
Many states in the US are more like countries than Canada is.
When Pierre Elliott Trudeau was the Prime Minister, Canada acted independently. It opposed the Vietnam War and admitted US draft dodgers. Canada transitioned to metric system and started socialized health care system. Canada established ties with People's Republic of China. The boy is nothing like his father.
@@smwk2017 I'd say China also starts to show its political and economic disadvantages ever since Xi is in charge, US also has a lot of funny stuffs happening every year, even though Trump was a big mouth and a clown online, he actually did pretty well on the economy part and he was the one that actually did some damages to China.
I think we are witnessing all the super powers and developed countries declining. I just think the US has more to last longer, and I can't see in any way that Canada will actually become a leading country in the world, at least not in my lifetime.
This pandemic really exposed everyone's weaknesses, I'm not sure if all these f up things just happened coincidentally or they were caused partially by the pandemic, but I'm glad that I can have some sense of how many hypocrites and dictators are.
It's not that simple
I’m not a student, I’m not Canadian, I’m immigrant who is soo disappointed of Canada!
Why?
He mentions education services being 5.21% of GDP... However, each international student does not pay only the tuition...they also need to pay their lodging, food, transportation, and personal items. A friend of mine who successfully finished software engineering, has excellent skills and jobs with top tech companies, told me that by the time he was done with uni and before he started making money he was already about 100k down and he could not go back no matter how unhappy he was. Immigration is a business for Canada..be it international students or already educated people who come through express entry programs. Now whether it's worth it for someone depends on how bad it is where they are and how wealthy their family is. But if life is good where one is, I would say this is a futile pursuit unless one's dream is to be a nomad yappy.
True, big economic injection
Canada is a great country and gives easy pathways to PR. Canada is NOT for LAZY people who can't RESEARCH. Why would you invest thousands of dollars without personal research? No one will tell you the Pros and Cons of Canada only if you research. So if you pay an agent thousands of dollars to come to Canada and you end up in a weird situation its on YOU!. Don't just listen to one person, listen and read several blogs and be enlighten. That's the bitter truth.
Yes, absolutely!
It’s not bitter it’s common sense
U think people pay thousands without research ???
The issue comes when people represent false reality in social media and info that skew someone perspective and research
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@@ko-Daegu When you do your research you won’t fall for Bloggers, TikTok, Instagram, Social media short sweet videos about Canada that are not detailed! That’s not research! You’re deceiving yourself. Some student put all their trust in an agent and even let the agent decide on a program for them. And that’s the bitter truth!
People who work in Canada are hard working,people who work in India are lazy. Hahafa, first of all canada doesn't offer better opportunities, if 1000000000 immigrants appliead for a job for only 2% openings means it is a competitive market and remaining people can move out of Canada for better opportunity. There are very limit white collar jobs, if people are moving to Canada and just surviving on blue collar jobs for years then it is not worth it. Canada is absolutely over rated compared to other developed countries, I lived in Canada for 4 yrs and moved back to India. If i get a time and age I would try japan, germany instead.
Canada is an developing country who focus in millionaires immigrant and rich investors at the end new immigrants should find their on way to make it by a way or another best luck for everyone
Canada is not a developing country anymore. All of our resources are being out sourced because of this caner of a liberal government.
It's complex
I wish I had seen this video before completing my studies in Japan, because I can see similar things to this video that are being done in Japan as well.. education, is a business.
All business
Never mind this video...there are lots of other videos.
When you realize that everything, including education, is business.
Yep
Canadian universities are very costly, In india I did MBA from good university, in my B school 95% students got job very easily in campus placements. My friends who have gone to do Masters in Canada and US paid very huge money for fees and till now nobody has decent job. Going abroad without knowing facts is very dangerous. Plan before you take action.
Yes, research is necessary
Big waste of money and time for a shity country.
Good you are bringing some truth to the table, which is good for our young generations to know & understand. The life that people are expecting is completely different on the other side thus, it's about how aware are we! Anyways people are smart , it's just they ignore sometimes & now it is to see how smart are they. Truth is like an universe by itself so unlock & know it! Anyways we all learn from our mistakes & this are a lessons or experiences for reasons or say for our own growth for our wellbeing! God bless everyone!❤️🙏
Thank you!
shiii thats why i had to change my canadian dream to the American dream
lol
I agree with you, without international students Canada would be in trouble when I studied here i paid double tution in USD is obviously a freaking business. plus when you immigrate many times they want you to get in another school program and you might still endup at Tim Hortons in a low wage job.
Also beware that as an international student the government has to pay you your tax returns, can be a lot back.
Without students Kingston ontario would stop existing and likely turn into a ghost town even though it was supposed to be
the capital of Canada, but now is Ottawa. You have to be an entrepreneur that is the mind you need; earn, budget, invest and build an organisation.
Good point!
Thanks for this video man. Students here are crazy about having education abroad which is fine when it comes to top tier universities like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, HULT, London business school etc. But the problem is students settle for very average colleges which might not be worth it. When we tell them these things they behave as if we are the ones who are naive and we don't understand the world. Basically they they think we are dumb and radical thinkers because we dare to speak against these practices done by western universities. But here people are simply delusional, they are so breainwashed that even if someone says some slightest argument against western world they think of it as a taboo.But hopefully they find this video and maybe they understand what's actually going on.
lol
Bruh, wrong University/college is the first mistake you can make before moving.
Yes
The saddest thing here is that studies agencies never consider your immigration goals whatsoever. In my case, my agency only cared about me coming to Canada to study but never cared about making a comprehensive analysis of the probabilities to become a permanent resident. They sent me to one of the most overcompetitive cities in Canada and for sure, today, I would be a permanent resident if only I would've chosen another province. So my advice from all my experience which is still making me struggle a lot everyday, is to make a conscious research based on your current situation considering your CRS score and your future goals. Don't just believe that coming to Canada, getting your diploma and getting a qualified TEER 0,1,2 or 3 job, is the only thing that you may need. Focus on labour market, labour shortages, in-demand occupations, and PNPs, and for sure you will have a better spectre on this crucial journey of your lives. For sure you will have a lot of uncertainty, stress, anxiety, but after your get your ITA, all that will be just a bittersweet memory that have proven that your could do it. One last thing, keep in mind that if you are more than 30 years old, you will lose points every year, so don't wait as I did. BTW, I'm still pursuing my dream after 4 years of having landed. Best wishes to everybody.
Yes, this is why I decided to address this
Thank you for sharing your experience here Mauricio, you're absolutely right about how agents do not care about your long term immigration goals although I did share with him that my personal ambition was to benefit from a PR and use it for my long term goal i.e to enrol myself in a good university to pursue my dream of becoming a psychologist in the long run and I was heard but not guided right in the sense I feel fooled because I was not aware of the fact that international students are treated as cash cows not in just one but almost certainly in most of the colleges/universities here in Canada. I was aware of the fact how bad the private colleges can get and based my research on the same fact and found CBU because it was a publicly funded DLI and here I am and my fellow mates in a situation where even a public university has acted in the same manner, I just am slowly loosing trust in this country as a whole not just as a student but overall as my future in the long run because I am very ambitious student. I am glad you shared your real life experience here and not painting just a beautiful picture and this is only going to help me and other mates decide a better long run future for ourselves and not just focus on short term dollar success. I am back to India for a mental health break and decide where to take my life on from here and already in a debt of 22k dollars that I took for my education. Also, I am not complaining but addressing a big big issue and then be focused on solutions but It is really really good to hear that you are finally pursuing your dream in good time after the struggles you put yourself through, I am so happy for you Mauricio! Thank you again!
@@vrindakhatore thanks so much for that reply. I know how difficult is this journey… I think that regardless of our age, we all suffer the same way. I’ve learned a lot from this experience and for sure I’m advising anyone who asks me about my process, but what I’m still learning about is to deal with my mental health. I must admit that I struggle to stay stable enough to go to work but the feeling of hopelessness and uncertainty is present all the time in my mind. I hope this year everything is brighter for us, the working class composed by international students and workers who invested everything to pursue this dream. Best wishes. ❤️🇨🇦
@@Maurohayekwhich expensive province did you move to? Planning to move and school in Edmonton,Alberta. Just hope it’s worth it
May I ask your school and major ?
90% is these students are coming to diploma mills, and there's no one else to blame. Get admission to an actual university, and you'll see the difference right away with more diversity, career opportunities, and better education.
Vrinda and the MBA person actually went to a university
@@ImCanada which university?
@@stuntbased search term: "accredited universities"
@@stuntbased and to be clear, this shit system will still treat you like garbage regardless of if you go degree mill or accredited university. It might seem like it hates foreigners or is racist, but it sucks for people whose ancestors have lived here for generations too. It's just the way it is.
Some of these colleges are fake.
I would say depending on what career you want and if citizenship is important to you there are other options. Few international students consider for example a college diploma in their preferred field. A diploma can be much cheaper than and ensure future acceptance to university. Yet a diploma in many countries have pathways from student to skilled migrant visa, PR and citizenship if you study an in demand occupation. Study load at college is usually lower allowing you to work part time to supplement your income. University can be pursued later with credits from your diploma and a discount if you have become a citizen (in some countries).
Yeah
I have a sister in law that studies at Fanshawe college at London ON. After paying for the whole years tuition fee's they increase the annual fee's by 25% saying other charges. International students are being milked by Canadian colleges. Also what students are not told is that the Canadian Economy is not generating enough highly skilled jobs and seem to be stagnating. And when we get jobs you have to do double the work load done by usual person but get paid little more than a minimum wage worker. While our white Canadian staff work around doing almost nothing and get paid much more (They are called People managers / Coordinators). And when it comes to recruitment it is an adhoc process were they recruit people they feel like not always the best.
Thanks.
Yes, schools know there's no other way
Nobody said it was going to be easy. I came here in 2018 and struggled my way through but eventually made it. You can't lose focus and really push it the first 3-5 years. No matter what happens, canada is always going to be better than living in a 3rd world country. My country is listed 17 per capita crime 2023 list. Just checked. Canada isn't even in the top 100
Totally agree! If the person has good quality of life in his own country, should think and plan a lot before moving, because it is necessary to start from below.
Lol
What makes you think living in Canada would always be better than living in a third world country ?
I'm from Nigeria and there are millions of people living better than those who left the country for Canada. Only mentally colonised minds think like this which is exactly what they want.
@@adelabuidris6292 because I come from a third world country and I've been living in Canada for 5 years and now I'm a citizen of Canada and the benefits that I get here and also the freedom that I get here cannot be compared. Not even a question. There's no corruption like bribing everywhere, robbing people, women safety issues.
100% true.
@@beeda69 no corruption?!!!!!, hmm go look at the pandora papers.
Having lived in Ontario, Canada for more then 30 years I have some perspective on this subject
Majority of Canadian student go to UfT(science), Waterloo(Engineering),Queens(Commerce) and McMasters(Science) , I would not consider Sheridan as University
There are 2 types of students aspiring for further studies in America/ Canada
Majority of IIT students go to America for Masters
Very few IIT students come to Canada for further studies
The student coming to Canada apply to colleges, the degrees for these colleges have no value. Even students joining these colleges know that, they only join these colleges since they get entry to Canada
Many such students drop out after 6 months, it works both ways for student and colleges. The student get a visa and colleges get revenue.
I know of Students parent selling a parcel of land do that their children can go to Canada to follow their Canadian dream.
So you wouldn't recommend to join any college in Canada since the degree's you get there have no value in Canadian job market?
I think school means nothing, success is multifaceted
Britain killed 4 million Indians in Bengal in 1943 by imposing a famine
Insane...
Thanks for taking about this issue as most main stream do not take about this issue (Taboo subject).
Glad it was helpful!
I'm Mexican, I live in Mexico and I worked at scotiabank, so basically I would do the job of a Canadian banker earning like a low wage Mexican employee, and many students are in this position not only students, regular people are struggling everyday to make ends meet, companies only want money they don't care people.
There has to be more conversations around this
Hi there it would be greatful if make another part of this video on international students from Bangladesh. A good number of them are living a lavish lifestyle due to black money their parents have earned. But still you might find number of students facing similar educational scams.
I'm not too familiar with this
hi, I am from Bangladesh. Are you talking about "Begum para"? aka Heaven of black money
Dear I’m canada. Great video but why the American money? I was a professor teaching in Ontario for 4 years with an incredible placement rate due to my contacts no matter their origins. What should be mentioned is: if you are an immigrant, adapt! First speak English. Secondly leverage your colleagues that are not English. Thirdly, you will exit with your fellow classmates with the same useless paperwork so you need to do more during your classes. It’s not an immigrant issue because the Canadian students succeed the same. Welcome to Canada! We love you all
Thanks for this comment, great tips
I had some international student friends. They're paying $60k/year for their tuition. Computer science. And that was the fee 5 years ago. I'm sure it's even more expensive now. They are desperate to find a job after undergrad so they can maybe stay and get permanent residency. Otherwise, they get send back to China and could not come back to Canada unless they apply for immigration which can be even more costly
It’s mind blowing
Big respect to you and the honesty you posess. It's people like you that make our journey worth while
Means a lot! Thank you❤️
Thank you for talking about this subject avoided by main stream media in Canada.
For sure!
As an international student my goal now is to get my PR and Citizenship and move to US.
I hope it works out for you!
Moving to the US and working there is not easy for Canadians, or else 37 million Canadians would have already done it. YOU are not special, and US won't give YOU out of everyone else a citizenship to move in.
@@johncam8420 Just wish me luck bro. Peace.
If I was an international student looking to study abroad, I’d go to Germany instead of Canada or the USA. Germany gives free tuition to international students and the cost of living is much lower than in Canada
Yes, but if you want to stay in Germany, it's more difficult, I made a video in the past
Germany gives free education to everyone..locals too.
As a nigeria student we will come in and survive we made for this....
Bossu
You get am.
Swears mehnn😅
Have fun with that when the economy is shit..
@@hakunamatata71599 if you find your self in the correct forex or crypto space you wouldn't even bother about gofundme or support from home. At the end we are all on our own with individual choices. As a person born in third world country, we have seen it all and there suppose to be nothing stopping us from getting to the peak of our destinies despite the economy or our background.
My friends went to Canada and graduated from a university in Vancouver only to be told by the government that they were not getting their post graduation visas due to suspicions of them “not being a real student”. They had to leave as soon as they graduated and weren’t given the chance to work.
I made a video on this: ua-cam.com/video/QAVI2it6s0Q/v-deo.html
May be he was not going to college regularly
@@musafir123 it was an entire group of about 5-6 people who were all told the same thing, and they all attended regularly
this video needs to blow up
Thank you!
Where the international students told they had to research the costs of living in Canada? I agree with this video..but I’m Canadian and also homeless. I simply can’t understand how anyone would believe that it is all free. There is also an irony here that can’t be overlook, because an Indian student is likely from the higher echelon of India to be able to pay the price. … sigh,
Research saves lives
@@ImCanada doesn’t do much for my life at all at the moment. So in my most humble and laymen way I say to you Mr. educated, a genius that can not tie his shoes is not a genius at all. Research does no good for the people that see a perfectly good place to build a home to sleep in? Who’s lives are you trying to save? Certainly not mine.
I am from India. My father visited Canada in 1961 on the Colombo plan. He was a chemical engineer,so visited Sarnia,Alberta and I like him fell in love with canda. Today's Canada will be very different I know but I remember the places my father visited as though I went there myself. Good genuine people.
Yeah, nothing stays the same
Almost everyone there are Indians now lol it has changed surely
@@chairpants 🤣
How old is your dad now?
And by moving there, and with more Indiand moving there, after falling in love with it -- because it was originated by whites, more Indians moved there and then ruined it. Get it. Do you know who are not good genuine trustworthy people -- you and your farther and your entire family. Your father was able to scam those good genuine people.
100% this, plus add in the number of domestic students with Canadian experience...... international students don't have a chance in hell........trust me I'm a Canadian and I hire people for a living, management makes sure we hire 5 to 1, meaning 5 domestic graduates to 1 International Student.....my company hires 5 students a year for entry, that's 1 International Student a year ...... GOOD LUCK
Wow, so where does the international students end up in?
It's not true for most companies though
@@AdvaiticOneness1 they just work in warehouse Tim Horton or kfc or security or even doing cleaning jobs 😢
@@Travelwithkugan For rest of their lives? 😯
@@AdvaiticOneness1 if you have skill’s you can get job if you don’t have any skills experience you’ll end up working some blue collar jobs 98% working blue collar job if you have Canadian experience you can work here and pay higher taxes everyone should come to Canada try it out if you get referrals for IT or engineering you don’t have to start all over again from zero and your degree from back home country Canada doesn’t recognize it 😰Canada is a country bring money open your business pay higher tax that’s all here or you have to work minimum wage job and open a business or just working company and pay taxes live your life it’s always 9-5 jobs here that’s All 😰
It's freaking Sydney, Nova Scotia! If you think that a small city like Sydney in an economically depressed region is going to employ all graduates, you shouldn't be in university.
Lol
This only happens if you attend low-level post-secondary education institutions. If you attend top universities such as Waterloo, UofT, Queens, Western, etc., you will find employers trying to contact you. The only way to succeed at the highest level in a capitalist market is to prove that you are the best person for that job, therefore attending a low-level college program won't equate to automatic success.
I know someone from UofT working at Tims
Most of the blame should stay with the consultants in the home country and the educational institutions in Canada. Canadian government never promised anything to these students.
Yep
came here in 2011 for a msc at UofT at the cost of 11,000 Cad, graduated in 2012, got 5 offers a few months before I even graduated, immigrated in 2013, bought my first condo soon after. I mean, it depends. But I was in a very quant field and I was top of my class. My starting salary in 2012 was 75,000 plus pension and benefits and I work about 6 hours a day lol
Wow! Great story :)