@@angelmotorsports i want to do that and get rid of the rats nest at the same time, I just don't want to have my car down now that the weather doesn't suck as much
@@cadwgawn there is a mod you can do that lets your omp pull from an external reservoir so you still have all the oil metering but you can just fill the tank with what ever oil you want
One of the top secrets to longevity for rotary engines! Use a good quality premix oil! If you have a factory OMP still installed, you can still run a premix to help lubricate the seals better to prevent carbon buildup.
more like get home owners asking for a lawn mowed or some weeds trimmed. its a car not a leaf blower if it needs premix you better pre plan for a motor swap
@@makuta373 do you not see the similarities between a 2-stroke and a rotory, it needs the oil, just like a regular engine, but there is no way to get the oil to all the moving components so that is why premix
RAVn BLADE He probably gets it, I do, too. What we (I) don't understand is the purpose for such a ridiculously inferior engine design when there are so many good, powerful, cheap, reliable piston engines the world over. A novel concept, and I'm glad somebody likes them and keeps them running and making power, but... really?
Best smell ever: VP and Castor 927!!! Ran that in every dirt bike and jetski I ever owned. 2nd best smell was the Formula K2 - ran that in a couple 125s - you really need to heat that stuff up to get the most from it.
i guess i'm an exception to this rule. i don't premix, never have, OMP works just fine. built my engine back in '99 and drove it daily in an 808 til wrecking it in '05(not my fault). put it in an FB and drove that daily til '10 when i decided to get something else to drive daily. FB still gets driven on weekends and yearly to DGRR and sees WOT quite frequently and will keep carbon buildup to a minimum. you can't drive like a grandma, barely revving to 4k letting all that carbon build up. got a good 170k+ miles on it and still going strong. no i don't totally disagree with premixing as there are cleaner burning alternatives out there, it's just not a "do it or loose an engine" kinda thing. regardless of the mix used, it's heavier than the fuel it's mixed in and will settle out over time. i had an old gas tank i removed from an rx7 that i have no doubt had been premixed over several years. it had a thick tar like substance in the bottom of it. if you use a 2 stroke weedeater, do you not shake or agitate the fuel in the can before you pour it into the weedeater? i rode dirt bikes as a kid and the bike dad had was a 2 stroke. he used to rock it side to side to remix the 2 stroke oil and gas in the tank before starting it. try that with a car. anyway, been watching the builds. hope that rotary kicks some s10 a$$.
Can we get like, an actual semi serious educational video about this? I had no idea Doritos needed premix. Is the premix only for the apex seals? Am I remembering incorrectly that there is an oil sump? What does that oil lubricate? Now I have even more questions and I’d imagine Vargas would have the answers if you guys could be serious for like 5 minutes.
You block off the pump going to the oil injectors and premix it your self to be more reliable that you are actually getting oil in the combustion chambers. The oil pump can and will fail and not lubricate the apex seals and 💥
More reliable I guess... maybe its hard to tell if the oil pump goes out, well till the engine blows lol but hey thats just my guess i might be way off
Because people, as a general rule, are lazy and stupid (mob rule, group think, that kinda shit). If there were a separate tank to fill; morons would run it dry even if there were an idiot light on the dash. And bean counters would shy away from a setup like that because they know they'd lose sales because some lazy fuck wouldn't want to have to fill a separate tank. Also there would be an added cost to the design and manufacturing.
@@thedude7726 until you stack another rotor on the thing. lol... which brings me to wonder how many rotors stacked is too many? seriously, im totally interested in finding out.
It’s almost like having to bad daddy I love it thank you all for the videos I hope people get the enjoyment that I do because the circuit series by far is the best
This is why companies get actors to present their product/service. Scientist, engineers, mechanics ect. are all over the place but it eventually gets through lol.
@Hoonigan Bonus does the oil ruin the octane rating of your fuel? Ie. if youre usnig c16 will it drop the octane rating below the 116-118 octane? How much does octane rating affect a rotary compared to piston for detonation?
lovin this rotary stuff but i dont know anything about it. so is it like maintining a 2stroke scooter engine where you put 2t to keep the engine healthy?
Vargas just saved me with the premix knowledge. Never would ive known that the carbon would eventually ruin the seals on rotor. That case being always primix when refilling. 🤦
Has anyone figured out how to make the metering pump pull from a reservoir of good premix-type oil instead of the dirty crankcase? It would be pretty cool to have the benefits without having to actually mix your gas ahead of time (on a street car).
I stopped premixing when four-stroke dirtbikes became as light and 'good' as two-smokes. Vargas taught me how rotaries work and got me interested in them, and then immediately taught me why they were a colossal global failure and why they utterly suck, haha! I'm glad guys like he and his brother are keeping them alive, but man... what a stupid design for automotive applications! I'd love a rotary bike, however. And they sorta make cool sounds, though not ones I'm interested in hearing as long as I2, V2, I4, V4, I6, V8, and V12 piston engines exist.
iono but have u tried bridge porting on a bridgeport mill drill press at a 45° apon entry vs 90° where u cant angle the bridge itself without compromising the eyebrows size
I have the exact same ringtone Mike. Damn Google Pixel phones. 😉😎 Atleast you know that someone's calling you with these phones, most of the ringtones on Samsung and Apple are too quiet, even on max volume. 👎
B.Southards nope, that’s a very popular choice, the reason he is using that type is because he is running alcohol, regular 2 cycle won’t mix with alcohol
All I could picture was Hurt shooting dirty looks the whole time at everyone making noise
Hoonigan wouldn't be the same without him hands down
hes def turning into a grumpy old man when he films. he needs dorito seat time...
quiet on set? its a garage lol ON HOONIGAN property
LOL said the same thing to myself.
Engine run good, you get the hunnies. Engine run bad, you spend all the moneys.
I was Drinking water when Vargas said "Your mom's weed blower runs it" and I violently started choking from laughing
Adam Golnik 😂😂😂😂
Same
Same.. just on a fat hit on a dooby 🤣🤣🤣
I made a leaf blower doobie auto-shotgunner apparatus once, I think that qualifies as a weed blower, right?
@@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My favorite Hoonigan channel is Bonus. Favorite show is Build & Battle.
so you just discovered hoonigan is what you are saying
Maxima 927 for the win. Smells awesome! It will attract old guys with motocross or flat track stories tho, so that can be a downside.
I am guilty of exactly that.
I use it in my KTM. Smells awesome! I read that it gums up valves though.
Downside......says you.
927 has bit more wax in it so it'll gum up the power valves more often. But still an excellent mix
#TRUTH🤣😂🤣😂
I didn’t learn anything, but, engine smells good, you get the honeys. So, THANKS Vargas!! Another great video!! (No sarcasm)
engine runs good = honeys
We need a sticker of this!
I heard the ring tone and thought I had a phone call. Then I remembered I am watching on my phone. Pavlov has got me trippin.
Still not as bad as using your phone to look for your phone or putting on your glasses to try and find your glasses
Lol high stress moments. Liked.
Someone give Hert some ibuprofen after carrying that whole episode. 😂
En ese dedo lo que hay es sangre BORICUA!!!!!!!!👍👍👍
🇵🇷💯💪
From premix to prenups, with John Vargas.
👏🏽👏🏽 applause for Hurt dragging answers out of papi. Doing content duty diligence. “Damn it John, just explain WHY you need oil in your fuel!”.
So pre mix is essentially just 2 stroke oil, Just better quality?
it IS that lol. What they have is just better stuff for for hi-rev racing Doritos.
I was never a first gen fan but y’all have them growing on me now.
I haven't done the OMP delete on my 13B-REW and I still premix, thought after this, that will be a priority, Thanks Vargas!
cadwgawn delete the pump so you’re not burning old ass oil
@@angelmotorsports i want to do that and get rid of the rats nest at the same time, I just don't want to have my car down now that the weather doesn't suck as much
@@cadwgawn there is a mod you can do that lets your omp pull from an external reservoir so you still have all the oil metering but you can just fill the tank with what ever oil you want
One of the top secrets to longevity for rotary engines! Use a good quality premix oil! If you have a factory OMP still installed, you can still run a premix to help lubricate the seals better to prevent carbon buildup.
With the same ratio?.
Premix lubes the engine and makes the gas combust at lower temps, hence no premix you overheat and you dont get the hunnies.
People that have smelled klotz benol burning know the love
So you can get girls in your car...... That's all I need to know about premix 👍🏽
Pre mix leads to pre.... other things
more like get home owners asking for a lawn mowed or some weeds trimmed. its a car not a leaf blower if it needs premix you better pre plan for a motor swap
@@makuta373 do you not see the similarities between a 2-stroke and a rotory, it needs the oil, just like a regular engine, but there is no way to get the oil to all the moving components so that is why premix
RAVn BLADE He probably gets it, I do, too. What we (I) don't understand is the purpose for such a ridiculously inferior engine design when there are so many good, powerful, cheap, reliable piston engines the world over. A novel concept, and I'm glad somebody likes them and keeps them running and making power, but... really?
Brings back memories of pouring Rock Oil strawberry into my DT50 in the mid 90's, lol!
Best smell ever: VP and Castor 927!!! Ran that in every dirt bike and jetski I ever owned. 2nd best smell was the Formula K2 - ran that in a couple 125s - you really need to heat that stuff up to get the most from it.
i guess i'm an exception to this rule. i don't premix, never have, OMP works just fine. built my engine back in '99 and drove it daily in an 808 til wrecking it in '05(not my fault). put it in an FB and drove that daily til '10 when i decided to get something else to drive daily. FB still gets driven on weekends and yearly to DGRR and sees WOT quite frequently and will keep carbon buildup to a minimum. you can't drive like a grandma, barely revving to 4k letting all that carbon build up. got a good 170k+ miles on it and still going strong. no i don't totally disagree with premixing as there are cleaner burning alternatives out there, it's just not a "do it or loose an engine" kinda thing. regardless of the mix used, it's heavier than the fuel it's mixed in and will settle out over time. i had an old gas tank i removed from an rx7 that i have no doubt had been premixed over several years. it had a thick tar like substance in the bottom of it. if you use a 2 stroke weedeater, do you not shake or agitate the fuel in the can before you pour it into the weedeater? i rode dirt bikes as a kid and the bike dad had was a 2 stroke. he used to rock it side to side to remix the 2 stroke oil and gas in the tank before starting it. try that with a car. anyway, been watching the builds. hope that rotary kicks some s10 a$$.
This video are so educating and so entertaining. 👍👍👍
Mike Reppin that pixel 3 ringtone at 2:14 😂😂😂😂
Tension rising, nerves wearing thin. It's about to be build and boxing! Ding... Ding.
lmao the dirty cut finger at the end
Can we get like, an actual semi serious educational video about this? I had no idea Doritos needed premix. Is the premix only for the apex seals? Am I remembering incorrectly that there is an oil sump? What does that oil lubricate? Now I have even more questions and I’d imagine Vargas would have the answers if you guys could be serious for like 5 minutes.
You block off the pump going to the oil injectors and premix it your self to be more reliable that you are actually getting oil in the combustion chambers. The oil pump can and will fail and not lubricate the apex seals and 💥
nateweldgood .
"Hey guys I need you to stop behaving like you always have because I can't be bothered to google"
John is awesome, more of him would be awesomer!
Angel motorsports channel. Good shhhh
Same premix I use, easy to find at bike shops and mixes with E85.
"Premix your shit, Engine runs good and you get the hunnies" John Vargas 2019
Build and battle is the best.. love these guys keep it up... #Hoonigan
Oh shit , i had no idea rotarys had oil injection like a 2 stroke .. but it makes sense ..
Miss these days
Haha the logic is f*ckin awesome😂
I never knew they intentionally blocked the oil pump. Why not design a better one so you don't have to premix all the damn time though?
More reliable I guess... maybe its hard to tell if the oil pump goes out, well till the engine blows lol but hey thats just my guess i might be way off
Because people, as a general rule, are lazy and stupid (mob rule, group think, that kinda shit). If there were a separate tank to fill; morons would run it dry even if there were an idiot light on the dash. And bean counters would shy away from a setup like that because they know they'd lose sales because some lazy fuck wouldn't want to have to fill a separate tank. Also there would be an added cost to the design and manufacturing.
Like he said burning engine oil creates carbon buildup. 2 stroke burns cleaner. It's lubricating the apex seals not bearings.
Sweet I wanna ditch my k20 civic si and convert to rwb with a 13b.
Christopher G do it
Hert is like plz just let me make this shit.... rofl
I saw you guys at the 405 going south bound.
Did he superglue his wounds? OG move 👌
Nothing better than the smell of maxima in the morning..
Is it possible for the premixed oil to seperate form the fuel if it sits for a while? Or does it stay properly suspended?
When it sits around 2 weeks, it stays mixed. I didn't try longer. But if car will sit long time better not premix just in case.
Castor 927 love it
Castor 927 car probably smells so good
That castor 927 does smell good as shit... I run it in my blocked off oil pump Yamaha Zuma 70cc race.
Wait, so rotary needs the same fuel mix as a 2 stroke weed wacker?
Similar idea just lubricating different parts 👍
Yup. They are a 2 stroke engine pretty much
@@thedude7726 until you stack another rotor on the thing. lol... which brings me to wonder how many rotors stacked is too many?
seriously, im totally interested in finding out.
@@painkillersclan then its like a twin or tripple cylinder 2 stroke. Still each rotor works the same, just more of them.
same oil i put in my dirtbikes 😁
It’s almost like having to bad daddy I love it thank you all for the videos I hope people get the enjoyment that I do because the circuit series by far is the best
This is why companies get actors to present their product/service. Scientist, engineers, mechanics ect. are all over the place but it eventually gets through lol.
Things that need pre mixed oil? Landscaping equipment and rotaries that sound like landscaping equipment. 🤔
Justin Kasey you must have never heard a rotary irl lmao
Oh ya that castor 907 that’s what I use in my race bike
Castor 927, great stuff, only thing better is Klotz!
yeahhhhhh boi , moreeeeeeeee! john
@Hoonigan Bonus does the oil ruin the octane rating of your fuel? Ie. if youre usnig c16 will it drop the octane rating below the 116-118 octane? How much does octane rating affect a rotary compared to piston for detonation?
I wanna experiment with premix with a type 1 air-cooled motor see if it helps with the extreme temps
lovin this rotary stuff but i dont know anything about it. so is it like maintining a 2stroke scooter engine where you put 2t to keep the engine healthy?
John flexin the gucci 👓
I want to get the Honeys!
I wish I could understand what Vargas is saying.
'if you don't premix you're stooopid - there is no benefit - you use it or your car blows up'
??
Notification squad 🔥
John the mixologist!
Ohhh that’s how you get the honeys smh!!!
927 smells so good
Vargas just saved me with the premix knowledge. Never would ive known that the carbon would eventually ruin the seals on rotor. That case being always primix when refilling. 🤦
Lol anyone who knows rotarys or owns one knows they need premix.
Has anyone figured out how to make the metering pump pull from a reservoir of good premix-type oil instead of the dirty crankcase? It would be pretty cool to have the benefits without having to actually mix your gas ahead of time (on a street car).
Ok ok it's a really big go kart
Castor premix is the best smelling lol
I run that oil in my banshee an 110 it smells so amazing
Wait so if I pre-mix with honey, do I get back all the oil my 350z has been burning?
Maxima 927 sweetest smelling thing on earth
Leaded Go Juice + 927, the premix of champions
does it changes the ARF's while tuning?
Vargas is a funny as dude
I stopped premixing when four-stroke dirtbikes became as light and 'good' as two-smokes. Vargas taught me how rotaries work and got me interested in them, and then immediately taught me why they were a colossal global failure and why they utterly suck, haha! I'm glad guys like he and his brother are keeping them alive, but man... what a stupid design for automotive applications! I'd love a rotary bike, however. And they sorta make cool sounds, though not ones I'm interested in hearing as long as I2, V2, I4, V4, I6, V8, and V12 piston engines exist.
Is Vargas make a protein shake for car
Does the oil ruin the fuel injectors?
iono but have u tried bridge porting on a bridgeport mill drill press at a 45° apon entry vs 90° where u cant angle the bridge itself without compromising the eyebrows size
I thought Castrol GTX Burned Clean though
this must be the most senseble explaination of premix in like ever..
Can you run the stock pump to a small tank where you just add the premix and run pump gas
Honeyz!
ive got a 2002 fd with 180xxxkm and never premixed. still factory pump with no rebuild...
Dorito POOOOOWWWWAAAAA!!! 🇵🇷💪🏽🇵🇷💪🏽🇵🇷💪🏽🇵🇷💪🏽
Castor 927 is one of the best smells in the world
klotz super techniplate for the real racers
My rx7 smells like straight gas
The point of premix is, to annoy Vargus when you ask him about it.
I have the exact same ringtone Mike. Damn Google Pixel phones. 😉😎 Atleast you know that someone's calling you with these phones, most of the ringtones on Samsung and Apple are too quiet, even on max volume. 👎
And I'm out here using Walmart brand 2 stroke oil to premix my 12A lmao
B.Southards nope, that’s a very popular choice, the reason he is using that type is because he is running alcohol, regular 2 cycle won’t mix with alcohol
I just got schooled on dorito engines.
Mike has a Pixel 2
yo mama snaps 🤜🤛
What's the difference between motor oil and rotary mixing oil?
Anthony Ciccariello probably the high end pre mix is significantly better.
Anyone else blast their fucking ears in the begin of this to?
Not only do rotaries sound like a 2 stroke they also run premix like a 2 stroke XD
Fuckin love Vargas 😂😂😂. It aint my fault they missed it, go back and watch. Lmfao
mmmmm bonus!
wheres the Director shouting "hold the work!!"
So yall run these doritos like 2 strokes?
Will Mochi piss do the trick? Just have him pee in the tank at every fillup.