I had big Sony G-master, Sigma art lenses... but I find this range of lenses incredible! Price, size, weight, construction and optical quality. I have the 35 and 50mm, I think I'll take the 18 and 85mm soon. it goes well with my S5IIX.
thank you for the lovely feedback - very lucky that Stef is open to being on camera - as it's hard work! It's definetely nice to combine holiday memories with these reviews!
I’m a hiking video shooter. I’m thinking this 18mm paired with the new 28-200mm. It’s absolutely essential for me to be light and the 18mm should be good for astro photography. Love your work. I need to go see if you go over your color grading process.
Yup, the same duo I always keep with me. I also have the 20-60 and the 50/1.8. I don't use the former any more (now that I have a proper UWA prime) and the 50 only for f1.8 portraits, given that optically it isn't THAT good for generic shooting compared to the 28-200 at 50mm.
I'd love to get this lens. It's a very trendy look you often see in commercials to go very wide and close to your subject. Kinda like Emmanuel Lubezki does, minus the deep depth of field lol.
Definitely, as soon as they updated the AF on the LUMIX cams I wanted to test out what you could do with a wide angle as a solo operator (i.e. pulling off shots you'd need a focus puller for usually)
I've come from the GX9 m43 eco system, and let me tell you... moving to full frame, especially on focal lengths 16-24mm it has been incredibly humbling 😅 Lovely footage, definitely agree that for smaller focal lengths it helps to turn the ibis off and go gimbal shooting - Why have we picked such an expensive creative outlet? Great vid Ed! :)
Oh gosh yes it's the most expensive isn't it? My illustrator friend just has a laptop and an iPad, whilst I go out and sink the bulk of a paid invoice on a new lens 😂
How do you like this switch? Im on EM1 mk3 right now and im thinking about picking the S5IIX or G9II , mostly for video. I have some lenses of M43 but no lens for L-Mount and Im really curious how that works for you.
@@Dungor89 hey man, sorry for the late reply. I absolutely love the transition from m43 to full frame, however I’ve not tried any m43 lenses, I do have a stock pile of old m42 (35mm) lenses that work an absolute dream with an l-mount adaptor. Mostly use them for stills, but I’ve used my Helios 44-2 for some videos, only issues is pulling focus on a bigger camera but it’s all apart of the learning curve!
What is so attractive about 16 to 24mm focal lengths that u didnt like in 8 to 12mm focal lengths in micro four thirds ? There is 9mm leica lens for m43 system which I love
I bought my S5 over Hanukkah on B&H, so as a holiday deal they sent me the Panasonic S 85mm prime lens which is so far the only lens I have for this camera (not for long though). Honestly didn’t know what to expect, but I really think it’s a fantastic lens especially with the f/1.8 aperture. It is a tad frustrating to only have a 85mm atm, so I’ll be interested to see how often I use it once I get some other focal lengths, but for a start out lens that came with my camera I couldn’t be happier honestly.
I've heard great things about the 85mm, never shot with that focal length (have a 75mm DZO Vespid which I really like) - it might be my next choice - that or the 35mm... need to look into them both.
The first lens I had for the S5iiX was the 85mm, which I got on sale for like 250. It was obviously very tight for things around the house, but the images were very beautiful. But it had me wanting something more. I got the 20-60mm kit lens for cheap on a secondary market to sort of test out what focal lengths I'd like to use most. I know the 20-60 isn't supposed to have a lot of focus breathing, but I did notice it with my videos. I ended up buying a 50mm, which I love and use all the time and the 70-300 (for photography more than video). I just bought the 18mm and am loving it.
the 85mm did actually end up staying in my arsenal even after picking up a 24mm-70mm, and even after getting my hands on some "higher quality lenses" I still find myself using the 85mm quite often now. Like you said, the images are very clean, and now that I have a lens that fits most other situations and makes for some versatility, I really enjoy shooting on the 85mm when I get the chance cause the separation at f/1.8 is beautiful and its a lot less frustrating when you're not trying to force an 85mm perspective into a tight space. For the price especially, the Panasonic S 85mm is a great lens @@BikesAndBatallas
Beautiful work as always Ed! Wide lenses shooting people draw comparisons with Terrence Mallick and/or Emmanuel Lubeszcki, a look I love, except they use the deep focus. This wide shallow focus look is really lovely. Do you miss the Lumix focus clutch? I have the Lumix 16-35, 24-105, 24-70, 70-200 (both f/2.8 and f/4) 50 f/1.4 (the og one that weighs a ton, is super expensive and optically perfect), Sirui FF 50 and 75 anamorphics & the 1.25x adapter, and last but not least the TTArtisan 11 f/2.8. I’ve clearly got too much and in the process of working out what I don’t need. I’m mounting these on a S1H, S5 and S5iiX. Needless to say I drive a beaten up 2011 Toyota Corolla 😂. I seem to be shooting very long a lot lately, even at 400mm using the Lumix 2x teleconverter on 70-200 f/4. Handheld this setup still produces excellent shots!
We have a 2008 Honda Civic (currently with a flat battery) - but yeah it's an expensive passion isn't it! I've not used many of the pro lenses - only the 24-70. Tried the TT Artisan lenses recently - really loved them. Interesting that you're shooting long - it's something I rarely do - so I imagine at some point I'll probably get into it.... haha. What do you tend to shoot at those longer focal lengths - wildlife?
@@EdProsser cars are overrated right? 😝 Events, concerts, etc. Last week I was producing and BCam on a shoot on Sydney harbour (where I live) for the relocation by the Navy of a decommissioned torpedo across the water by barge from Spectacle Island to a submarine museum in North Sydney via a staging point at the historic Cockatoo island museum site. Weird and spectacular pics to be had. My main cammo (ex Mythbusters!) was using a FX6 and stayed put at the barge landing point and I was sprinting up and down with the S5iiX and teleconverted 70-200 trying to sight the barge and get the approach shots. The marketing people running it didn’t have a clue what was going on and importantly couldn’t tell us where to look amongst the harbour boat traffic to point the cameras. How unusual. Anyway got the shot handheld at 400mm on f/16 (I think) of the torpedo being craned onto the barge about 300m away from where we were. Depth of field gets pretty shallow at 300m! A walk in the park for the AF on the S5iiX though. And the shot was sharp as a tack and nearly tripod stable. Lumix IBIS is the best.
Finally! Been looking for more 18mm content from youtubers! I have the 50mm, 20-60, Tamron Macro 90mm. Wondering if I should go for 24mm or 18mm next. With the APSC crop at 60 fps my FOV is always around the 45mm-50mm with my lenses...so might want to go wider. I mostly do product photography, travel, and maybe some vlogging.
The close focus on the 18mm is fantastic so with a crop you can get some nice shots. I think 18 can get you a slightly "edgier" look whilst the 24 will give you more conventional results - depends what you want to go for ...
Great video as always man. I'm struggling deciding between this or the 24mm f1.8 with the discounted bundle for the s5iix. Probably can't go wrong either way.
I don't think you can go wrong - the 18mm obviously gets you wider - and you could always crop in on the frame if you want something similar to a 24. I think 18 might be a bit tricker for filming people - but you can get more interesting styles of shots if you're willing to experiment - but not always possible with client work...
Very nice I have the 50 and 85 atm- I don’t know whether to get this or the 35 next as I already get very decent results using the kit lens as a 20mm and keeping the aperture at 3.5
Yeah this lens is pricey, there's currently a £100 off promotion on most stores which brings it down to around £660 - £700, I also saw there's a decent condition one going on MBP for £584 - which I'd have gone for at the time had it been available. I'm mostly going to use this lens for gimbal work and shooting wide for mini-docs
Cool video! I mostly use the 50mm 1.8 on my S1 for handheld videos and I love the results. I'd like to mess around with the 18mm but it's so dang expensive. Almost double what I paid for the 50mm. I guess I will wait for a sale.
Yeah the 50mm was the first LUMIX S lens I picked up... I think I've just gotten a bit bored of that focal length and never really use it when shooting handheld, I've been pushing myself to shoot with wider lenses and get closer to the action.
It's too bad that Panasonic / Sigma's ultrawide lenses don't have IBIS. I mean, they thought of pretty much everything for filmmakers with their lenses, except for lens stabilization in their ultrawide lenses. If you all don't know, using lens stabilization with body stabilization (as opposed to IBIS alone) on ultrawide lenses really helps reduce corner warping. (You can confirm this for yourself if you are using an adapted lens with IBIS, such as the Canon EF 16-35 f/4 L on the MC-21). Also, I guess shooting people at 18mm is... uh... an "aquired taste," as I guess is travelling to an exotic, picturesque location and then obliterating the background with a very shallow depth of field.
I would love for Canon to make this lens!!! I use the Tamron 15-30 G2 which has an incredible image, and in fact, almost always in that range between 18 or 20mm, but it is huge!!! and not so bright. I would really love this lens.
Great video Ed. I feel like these S lenses 18, 24, 35, 50 and 85 feel less clinical than some other f1.8 lenses out there. Dare I say, they feel like FD lenses of our time. I could imagine someone 40 years in future getting the whole set (if electronic parts would survive).
Looks lovely. I've been keen to pick up a wide lens myself lately. The 18mm has a nice middle ground it looks like of stylistically wide, but also not so stylistically wide you can't use it in a multitude of ways. I'd be curious what you thought of the sigma 14-24 (if they do L mount). I've been very tempted but the round front element has given me hesitation. Really enjoying the regular videos you're putting out! :D
Thanks Aram! Yeah the 18mm seems like a decent balance wide angle. I'm really keen to also pick up the 16mm DZO Film which is useful for crazy wides on full frame / and a wider option for S35. Not tried the Sigma - but yeah would love to get my hands on it. Have an old Tokina 11-16 EF 2.8 somewhere in a draw... haven't used it for years, but it's aps-c.
The dzo lenses are nice. Although I've seen them used on so many projects I'm a bit tired of their look, but they are great. I've heard good things about the new(ISH) tokina 11-20 if you've tried that? I don't think it's full frame though. I'm very keen to try a super out there fisheye lens too lol. Bring back the vintage MTV skater vibe
@@aramatkinson haha yes I know what you mean, I've been shooting on mine for a few years now and am beginning to get to that stage of wondering what else I could shoot on! Re: MTV skater vibes, I was looking just this week at ebay miniDV cams as my old one fell apart a few years ago came very close to getting a MiniDV tape deck to digitise my collection of old tapes.
I honestly haven't noticed anything too crazy so far - I tend to shoot with diffusion / softer lenses, shoot wide open - and tend to shoot people rather than architecture / buildings so I'm guessing this helps reduce it. I do think the lack of OLF hampers the image somewhat - but can't have everything. I have a long review of the S5 IIX in the works where I will discuss this.
Great video, but you just got me puzzled. I was leaning towards lumix 24mm, but now I have to rethink if 18mm wouldn't be better. Especially when cropped at 60 fps... Waiting for the S5X review as well. Deals on the old S5 are fantastic nowadays and I just wonder, if I do need S5X. Improved IBIS and autofocus are appealing, but maybe I don't need it right now... Thanks for your insights.
yeah the eternal dilema of which kit to buy next! I doubt you can go wrong with either - I would say the 24 is probably a "safer" lens - but if you want to experiment more and can get up close with your subjects you can definitely get some more intense shots with the 18mm - and like you say when cropping for 60fps - you have a bit more benefit. Always easier to crop in on a wider frame too.
Footage looks amazing, it looked like you shot internally for this... I'm only asking as I'm thinking about getting a S5ii and it only has Long-gop... hope to get this amazing lens, cheers from OZ :)
@@samuelboatengyt I've noticed it a lot on my 24 / 35 Vespids, generally on wider shots with buildings you notice it, less so if you're close up with a subject. IBIS might have improved performance with the S Primes though!
I really wanted to buy one and almost did it when there were some discounts recently but then I saw the Sigma 16-28 /2.8 and decided I preferred the increased flexibility rather than the f/1.8.
@@EdProsser It's great. Love the quality so far and haven't seen any vignetting, even in 16 mm (Freewell K2 filters). Good size and fair prize compared to other similar lenses.
@@garreswe I have an H&Y Revoring - it's great and allows me to use it across different lens diameters - but I've used it for years and often wonder whether I should check out some alternatives just to see if there's a better option.
Great video, what filter are you using. The look is very cine creamy, I love it! Is it sharpness -5 or a filter? Or maybe the vlog is slightly softer, I mean, does the cineD2 have the same non clinical look?
I usually reduce mid detail in post. The S5iix doesn't have a negative sharpness setting, hopefully they'll add one! Some shots also have a 1/4 black pro mist
Thinking of pulling the trigger on this lens because of this video :))) Did you have any thought on a ND solution that might work better, matte box or bigger ND etc.... Cheers you have inspired me :))
The main culprit is the IBIS, a that moves the sensor relative to the ND solution, so it creates distracting vignetting shift, I'd recommend disabling the IBIS with this lens. I think if you have an ND pretty flush you should be good it's when stacking filters that I see the worst effect. I love this lens! I've used it a lot for doc work and been using it as BTS cam too generally set camera to apsc mode to crop in a bit. Makes it very versatile.
Hey, Ed. I really like your videos! Thanks for your content! I have a Lumix s5IIx too and this camera is not compatible with the Rs3 Mini's Bluetooth, right? My question is: with the camera connected to the gimbal via cable, can I use the app's functions on the smartphone, such as moving the gimbal and recording normally for the app?
It was my understanding you could connect the gimbal to the camera and trigger record etc. I haven't tried it yet, I do have a video about the gimbal on my list but haven't had chance to get to it yet.
@@EdProsser No, you cannot connect the Rs3 mini or normal RS3 to the S5iix through bluetooth. I hope they change this at some point but it hasn't happened yet.
@@BikesAndBatallas and no BT support for the RS4 either. Only Sony seem to have BT remote control support out of camera manufacturers as Canon/Nikon aren't supported either.
Great video! Did you shoot the 18mm a lot at 1.8 for this video? I'm debating wether I would prefer getting a 14-28mm/4-5.6 for the increased flexibility in focal length or if I would miss the extra aperture. It looks like you got quite shallow dof in some of those shots of your model, I'm assuming you shot them wide open?
I understand from the BTS image that you are using your ND filter too far ahead with the step-up and it is causing vignetting. If you use a one-piece filter converter, there is no problem.
Hey! This setup wasn't used for the whole review, even if it's flush without step up rings, I get some vignetting, but I do use a larger H&Y revo-ring VND.
@@EdProsser thanks for the response. On my full frame lumix system I can only go down to a 24mm, on my MFT camera I have a 6mm zero D by laowa for room wides and forgot that it is a 12mm with the 2X crop. Ends up on reflection the 12mm full frame equivalent is plenty wide. Just got excited researching the 18mm 1.8 FF for the Limux s5iix UA-cam rabbit hole!
I tried for 10 days to try and get the Lumix S5 IIx and DJ RS3 mini together. And the DJ RS3 never calibrated cuz it couldn't seem to handle the weight. It was super disappointing. I wonder what your trick was to make it work.
@@EdProsser - I was using the S5 iiX with a smallrig cage (and the adapter extension from small rig to accomadate for the cage for it). I was using the S 20-60mm lens. I tried balancing it with the camera on. I am pretty sure I was hovering around 1.2 kg max payload (with all the battery and ssd drive attachment) When it'd try to "balance" it would keep striking the lense against the gyro. I tried emailing DJI support but didn't get a reply back from them (and didn't want to risk the return capability) So ultimately sent it back. Maybe I had a bad unit.
@@JeanLaValley hmm I just used bare camera and lens with a screw on filter was fine. Balanced it, then turned on and calibrated and was all good. Maybe cage + hard drive combo un balanced it
Loved this! So here you are in Italy on a getaway - wanting to shoot video while still enjoying the sites and sounds, etc. How do/did you set exposure for VLOG quickly? Just waveform or ?
I guess I'm just used to eyeballing it! I don't tend to use waveforms (would maybe on a professional job) but in this instance just run and gun with a VND and have a good feel of where to expose my image, and there's enough wiggle room with vlog to not have to have it absolutely perfect.
@@EdProsser Boo...but I get it. Your style is just so engaging. I'd like to see what you would come up with in a an incredibly mundane location or or task and then talk us through it. Like Snow Day when it's not snowing (just a lot of bare branches) or Country Walk when there is no crops in the field. Or Stef doing the dishes! The other thing I have to compliment you on (and I went through your videos again just listening) is music selection. I know you were in radio/sound previously but your music always matches the tone, mood, and context of your visual. Would you be interested in doing a video on that?
Hahaha I will bare that in mind, the mundane cinematography challenge. Could be fun! Re: music that's a cool idea I could do that. I really need to get on and make some non-gear related videos, but they never perform as well and I keep getting sent lenses to try out which I have a lot of fun shooting with. But yeah need to do some more vids on music, composition, lighting and grading. Let me know if there's anything else that would be interesting
@@EdProsser Sound design is just so much of what makes a video great. I get mocked relentlessly for all my audio gear and editing in Audition, but subpar audio will absolutely undermine all the work you put into cinematography and grading. You can have the most beautiful match cuts, but if you have audio clipping or just poorly mixed, you're wasting talent. One great theoretical book is Audio Vision: Sound on Screen by Michel Chion, with an excellent introduction by the masterful Walter Murch. And speaking of audio; I just cherish it for itself. I have terabytes of stereo and ambisonic-B clips of my children as they have been growing up. We are inundated with visuals to the point that a pure, clean audio clip just activates parts of your brain that wouldn't otherwise be if we had accompanying audio. When the pandemic hit I would record everyone banging pots and pans on their balconies here in Madrid. Last year, when my grandfather was dying (and in the throes of dementia), I was on the other side of the world (I have lived in Spain half my life now). So I sent him a beautiful stereo clip of my 5 and 7-year old daughters telling him how much we loved him as gentle waves crashed around their feet and the seafoam popped in sparkles as the water flowed out. So we said goodbye to him in the best way we could, and I never though once of it being a video. I treasure that clip because I know it moved him deeply hours before he passed. There is power in what we do folks. I wish you all the best and thank you for making the content that you do.
Great video! Does this lens have distortion on faces or things if you go close enough, being a wide angle lens? Did you have any issues with it at all regarding this? Thankss!
Hello @EdProsser! I'm figuring out which ND filter to buy (for my Lumix S5 and 24-105 F4) and I was wondering if you could give me some advice :) Is it better to buy variable ND filters or multiple ND filters? I heard that variable ones are much more versatile but are worse in quality than individual filters. I also noticed in the video that you have an adapter, maybe? So that you can use the same ND filters for different sizes of lenses? Thank you in advance!!
My VND filter is the H&Y revo-ring it's great because it has a clever adjustable diaphragm which means you can put it on different filter thread sizes across diff lenses. Generally yes a VND will be more liable to colour cast and image degradation than a single stop ND. But the trade off of versatility is usually worth it in time saved swapping filters on and off.
Hmm I've only tested it with the LUMIX S primes - that's all I plan to use it with to be honest, I think with something like the sigma 28-70 you'd be okay, but not the larger Sigma Art 24-70 - that's a bit of a beast.
@@EdProsser thank you for the honest reply ... I have a s5ii with Sigma art 24-70 . I needed a cheap good gimble for the same . So u thunk rs3mini can't handle the weight perfectly with filters ?
@@SidhantCreationskpg if you have the L mount version you might be able to get it to work, I think it would just be under the payload - you just might struggle to get the camera / lens combo balanced properly as it'll make stuff front heavy.
I've only had the new gimbal for a month, before that barely used gimbals(!) Need to test more... But yes I would probably disable, might depend on the types of movement I was doing.
@@EdProsser Thank you for the feedback, I finally got my S52X (Arrived on Sunday) Before I had an S52 but I was unlucky and got a model with defect, send it back and ordered the X instead. Can't wait to go and shoot. I'm mainly a photographer tho :D
I think it's just the IBIS working over time and moving the camera around a lot, and also it's a lot of straight lines so you notice. Hence recommendation you turn it off and aply stabilisation in post if needed ...
Excellent video mate. Totally agree with every point you made. When I first got my hands on the 18mm it quickly became a staple in my everyday carry, and even to this day it finds itself getting a lot of camera time. Great footage as always, stop making the rest of us look bad xoxoxo
hoping to get this lens next, but those prices are killing me! very professional video by the way. well done.
Thanks, yeah unfortunately it's not the cheapest of the set. But one of the most interesting for sure. Maybe you can find it used?
I had big Sony G-master, Sigma art lenses... but I find this range of lenses incredible! Price, size, weight, construction and optical quality. I have the 35 and 50mm, I think I'll take the 18 and 85mm soon. it goes well with my S5IIX.
Yeah, I feel like they sit in a real sweet spot!
It's so lovely looking at you work Ed, the colour grade, the framing and your very photogenic partner/model.
thank you for the lovely feedback - very lucky that Stef is open to being on camera - as it's hard work! It's definetely nice to combine holiday memories with these reviews!
I’m a hiking video shooter. I’m thinking this 18mm paired with the new 28-200mm. It’s absolutely essential for me to be light and the 18mm should be good for astro photography. Love your work. I need to go see if you go over your color grading process.
I do but I haven't put out a video for a while so plan to put a few more out!
Yup, the same duo I always keep with me. I also have the 20-60 and the 50/1.8. I don't use the former any more (now that I have a proper UWA prime) and the 50 only for f1.8 portraits, given that optically it isn't THAT good for generic shooting compared to the 28-200 at 50mm.
I'd love to get this lens. It's a very trendy look you often see in commercials to go very wide and close to your subject. Kinda like Emmanuel Lubezki does, minus the deep depth of field lol.
Definitely, as soon as they updated the AF on the LUMIX cams I wanted to test out what you could do with a wide angle as a solo operator (i.e. pulling off shots you'd need a focus puller for usually)
I've come from the GX9 m43 eco system, and let me tell you... moving to full frame, especially on focal lengths 16-24mm it has been incredibly humbling 😅 Lovely footage, definitely agree that for smaller focal lengths it helps to turn the ibis off and go gimbal shooting - Why have we picked such an expensive creative outlet? Great vid Ed! :)
Oh gosh yes it's the most expensive isn't it? My illustrator friend just has a laptop and an iPad, whilst I go out and sink the bulk of a paid invoice on a new lens 😂
How do you like this switch? Im on EM1 mk3 right now and im thinking about picking the S5IIX or G9II , mostly for video. I have some lenses of M43 but no lens for L-Mount and Im really curious how that works for you.
@@Dungor89 hey man, sorry for the late reply.
I absolutely love the transition from m43 to full frame, however I’ve not tried any m43 lenses, I do have a stock pile of old m42 (35mm) lenses that work an absolute dream with an l-mount adaptor. Mostly use them for stills, but I’ve used my Helios 44-2 for some videos, only issues is pulling focus on a bigger camera but it’s all apart of the learning curve!
What is so attractive about 16 to 24mm focal lengths that u didnt like in 8 to 12mm focal lengths in micro four thirds ? There is 9mm leica lens for m43 system which I love
I bought my S5 over Hanukkah on B&H, so as a holiday deal they sent me the Panasonic S 85mm prime lens which is so far the only lens I have for this camera (not for long though). Honestly didn’t know what to expect, but I really think it’s a fantastic lens especially with the f/1.8 aperture. It is a tad frustrating to only have a 85mm atm, so I’ll be interested to see how often I use it once I get some other focal lengths, but for a start out lens that came with my camera I couldn’t be happier honestly.
I've heard great things about the 85mm, never shot with that focal length (have a 75mm DZO Vespid which I really like) - it might be my next choice - that or the 35mm... need to look into them both.
The first lens I had for the S5iiX was the 85mm, which I got on sale for like 250. It was obviously very tight for things around the house, but the images were very beautiful. But it had me wanting something more. I got the 20-60mm kit lens for cheap on a secondary market to sort of test out what focal lengths I'd like to use most. I know the 20-60 isn't supposed to have a lot of focus breathing, but I did notice it with my videos. I ended up buying a 50mm, which I love and use all the time and the 70-300 (for photography more than video). I just bought the 18mm and am loving it.
the 85mm did actually end up staying in my arsenal even after picking up a 24mm-70mm, and even after getting my hands on some "higher quality lenses" I still find myself using the 85mm quite often now. Like you said, the images are very clean, and now that I have a lens that fits most other situations and makes for some versatility, I really enjoy shooting on the 85mm when I get the chance cause the separation at f/1.8 is beautiful and its a lot less frustrating when you're not trying to force an 85mm perspective into a tight space. For the price especially, the Panasonic S 85mm is a great lens @@BikesAndBatallas
Mate, this is awesome. Fantastic footage!! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Rudy!
Beautiful work as always Ed! Wide lenses shooting people draw comparisons with Terrence Mallick and/or Emmanuel Lubeszcki, a look I love, except they use the deep focus. This wide shallow focus look is really lovely. Do you miss the Lumix focus clutch? I have the Lumix 16-35, 24-105, 24-70, 70-200 (both f/2.8 and f/4) 50 f/1.4 (the og one that weighs a ton, is super expensive and optically perfect), Sirui FF 50 and 75 anamorphics & the 1.25x adapter, and last but not least the TTArtisan 11 f/2.8. I’ve clearly got too much and in the process of working out what I don’t need. I’m mounting these on a S1H, S5 and S5iiX. Needless to say I drive a beaten up 2011 Toyota Corolla 😂. I seem to be shooting very long a lot lately, even at 400mm using the Lumix 2x teleconverter on 70-200 f/4. Handheld this setup still produces excellent shots!
We have a 2008 Honda Civic (currently with a flat battery) - but yeah it's an expensive passion isn't it! I've not used many of the pro lenses - only the 24-70. Tried the TT Artisan lenses recently - really loved them.
Interesting that you're shooting long - it's something I rarely do - so I imagine at some point I'll probably get into it.... haha. What do you tend to shoot at those longer focal lengths - wildlife?
@@EdProsser cars are overrated right? 😝 Events, concerts, etc. Last week I was producing and BCam on a shoot on Sydney harbour (where I live) for the relocation by the Navy of a decommissioned torpedo across the water by barge from Spectacle Island to a submarine museum in North Sydney via a staging point at the historic Cockatoo island museum site. Weird and spectacular pics to be had. My main cammo (ex Mythbusters!) was using a FX6 and stayed put at the barge landing point and I was sprinting up and down with the S5iiX and teleconverted 70-200 trying to sight the barge and get the approach shots. The marketing people running it didn’t have a clue what was going on and importantly couldn’t tell us where to look amongst the harbour boat traffic to point the cameras. How unusual. Anyway got the shot handheld at 400mm on f/16 (I think) of the torpedo being craned onto the barge about 300m away from where we were. Depth of field gets pretty shallow at 300m! A walk in the park for the AF on the S5iiX though. And the shot was sharp as a tack and nearly tripod stable. Lumix IBIS is the best.
Finally! Been looking for more 18mm content from youtubers! I have the 50mm, 20-60, Tamron Macro 90mm. Wondering if I should go for 24mm or 18mm next. With the APSC crop at 60 fps my FOV is always around the 45mm-50mm with my lenses...so might want to go wider. I mostly do product photography, travel, and maybe some vlogging.
The close focus on the 18mm is fantastic so with a crop you can get some nice shots. I think 18 can get you a slightly "edgier" look whilst the 24 will give you more conventional results - depends what you want to go for ...
Great video as always man. I'm struggling deciding between this or the 24mm f1.8 with the discounted bundle for the s5iix. Probably can't go wrong either way.
I don't think you can go wrong - the 18mm obviously gets you wider - and you could always crop in on the frame if you want something similar to a 24. I think 18 might be a bit tricker for filming people - but you can get more interesting styles of shots if you're willing to experiment - but not always possible with client work...
@@EdProsser Right... I think ima just play it safe and go with the 24 and give myself a 35mm in APSC mode. I'll play it safe for now.
Very nice
I have the 50 and 85 atm- I don’t know whether to get this or the 35 next as I already get very decent results using the kit lens as a 20mm and keeping the aperture at 3.5
Yeah this lens is pricey, there's currently a £100 off promotion on most stores which brings it down to around £660 - £700, I also saw there's a decent condition one going on MBP for £584 - which I'd have gone for at the time had it been available. I'm mostly going to use this lens for gimbal work and shooting wide for mini-docs
Cool video! I mostly use the 50mm 1.8 on my S1 for handheld videos and I love the results. I'd like to mess around with the 18mm but it's so dang expensive. Almost double what I paid for the 50mm. I guess I will wait for a sale.
Yeah the 50mm was the first LUMIX S lens I picked up... I think I've just gotten a bit bored of that focal length and never really use it when shooting handheld, I've been pushing myself to shoot with wider lenses and get closer to the action.
Great lens and absolutely wonderfullllll test footage! 📸
Thanks Emily! It's a belter of a lens!
Good to see you are enjoying the X!
I'm loving it more with each use!
It's too bad that Panasonic / Sigma's ultrawide lenses don't have IBIS. I mean, they thought of pretty much everything for filmmakers with their lenses, except for lens stabilization in their ultrawide lenses. If you all don't know, using lens stabilization with body stabilization (as opposed to IBIS alone) on ultrawide lenses really helps reduce corner warping. (You can confirm this for yourself if you are using an adapted lens with IBIS, such as the Canon EF 16-35 f/4 L on the MC-21). Also, I guess shooting people at 18mm is... uh... an "aquired taste," as I guess is travelling to an exotic, picturesque location and then obliterating the background with a very shallow depth of field.
Yeah or just bulk / rig the camera up to have a little weight, which will stabilise naturally, which is what I'll probably do.
IBIS stands for In Body Image Stabilization. What you mean is just IS.
Lenses can have their own stabilisation, also known as IS (image stabilisation)
Or even better imo - turn ibis completely off
I would love for Canon to make this lens!!! I use the Tamron 15-30 G2 which has an incredible image, and in fact, almost always in that range between 18 or 20mm, but it is huge!!! and not so bright. I would really love this lens.
This is such a nice and fun lens, I got it on a whim and it's become one of my most used! Unfortunately one of the more expensive LUMIX S primes.
I would dare say that no other brand has one like it. So compact, bright and angular and for FF
Great video Ed. I feel like these S lenses 18, 24, 35, 50 and 85 feel less clinical than some other f1.8 lenses out there. Dare I say, they feel like FD lenses of our time. I could imagine someone 40 years in future getting the whole set (if electronic parts would survive).
Yeah I agree and I think that's what surprised me the most about them!
This focal length just distorts the face. 35mm is my go to.
Another fav focal length! I like the diff perspective of the wide angle and sometimes the distortion can be fun.
Looks lovely. I've been keen to pick up a wide lens myself lately. The 18mm has a nice middle ground it looks like of stylistically wide, but also not so stylistically wide you can't use it in a multitude of ways. I'd be curious what you thought of the sigma 14-24 (if they do L mount). I've been very tempted but the round front element has given me hesitation. Really enjoying the regular videos you're putting out! :D
Thanks Aram! Yeah the 18mm seems like a decent balance wide angle.
I'm really keen to also pick up the 16mm DZO Film which is useful for crazy wides on full frame / and a wider option for S35.
Not tried the Sigma - but yeah would love to get my hands on it. Have an old Tokina 11-16 EF 2.8 somewhere in a draw... haven't used it for years, but it's aps-c.
The dzo lenses are nice. Although I've seen them used on so many projects I'm a bit tired of their look, but they are great. I've heard good things about the new(ISH) tokina 11-20 if you've tried that? I don't think it's full frame though. I'm very keen to try a super out there fisheye lens too lol. Bring back the vintage MTV skater vibe
@@aramatkinson haha yes I know what you mean, I've been shooting on mine for a few years now and am beginning to get to that stage of wondering what else I could shoot on!
Re: MTV skater vibes, I was looking just this week at ebay miniDV cams as my old one fell apart a few years ago came very close to getting a MiniDV tape deck to digitise my collection of old tapes.
@@EdProsser Haha yes! Get the miniDV cams out! And let me come watch you use it lol.
17mm f1.8 would have been more versatile than 18 because 17 can include more sky in close up..and in crop mode 25mm to 28mm very useful focal lengths
Excellent review! Did you notice moire patterns due to the lack of AA filter to the sensor?
I honestly haven't noticed anything too crazy so far - I tend to shoot with diffusion / softer lenses, shoot wide open - and tend to shoot people rather than architecture / buildings so I'm guessing this helps reduce it. I do think the lack of OLF hampers the image somewhat - but can't have everything.
I have a long review of the S5 IIX in the works where I will discuss this.
Great video, but you just got me puzzled. I was leaning towards lumix 24mm, but now I have to rethink if 18mm wouldn't be better. Especially when cropped at 60 fps...
Waiting for the S5X review as well. Deals on the old S5 are fantastic nowadays and I just wonder, if I do need S5X.
Improved IBIS and autofocus are appealing, but maybe I don't need it right now...
Thanks for your insights.
yeah the eternal dilema of which kit to buy next! I doubt you can go wrong with either - I would say the 24 is probably a "safer" lens - but if you want to experiment more and can get up close with your subjects you can definitely get some more intense shots with the 18mm - and like you say when cropping for 60fps - you have a bit more benefit.
Always easier to crop in on a wider frame too.
Footage looks amazing, it looked like you shot internally for this... I'm only asking as I'm thinking about getting a S5ii and it only has Long-gop... hope to get this amazing lens, cheers from OZ :)
Yes all internal!
@@EdProsser soooo good, cheers Chief!
Hey ED, good video ! Subbed, please what kind of noise/grain are you using in your videos. Image look good, not banding at all ! Thanks for info :)
Thanks - Resolves own grain, it's great and very customisable
with the S5II and S5IIX, for the IBIS to work properly you need to use 20mm and above.
It great video really enjoyed it
Thanks, yes agreed - although I think even at 35mm you get problematic warping etc.
@EdProsser I use a lot the 24 and 35, and haven't noticed, it looks pretty clean, but will pay more attention and see if you say so 🤔
@@samuelboatengyt I've noticed it a lot on my 24 / 35 Vespids, generally on wider shots with buildings you notice it, less so if you're close up with a subject. IBIS might have improved performance with the S Primes though!
@@EdProsser aaaahh okay, because I use mostly the 24-105/4, and the rest of them occasionally, so it might be like that then
@@EdProsserThat are you are just Pickyer than the other guy
I would love to see your color workflow for matching the s5ii(x) to your Komodo. I think I’m not the only one who’d interested in it :)
I'll add it to the list! The long long long list of UA-cam videos I need to make 🤣
According to MTF charts the 16-35 s pro blows this thing away. I would love to see a comparison.
I'd love to as well, but it's more than double the price!! Maybe I can get it on loan at some point.
I'm sure but that's an f4 and doesn't give that organic look as easily
awesome vid. is this all intra or long gop? also, vlog or a profile? thanks!
It's a mix of all-I and long gop but all shot in v-log!
I really wanted to buy one and almost did it when there were some discounts recently but then I saw the Sigma 16-28 /2.8 and decided I preferred the increased flexibility rather than the f/1.8.
How are you finding the sigma?
@@EdProsser It's great. Love the quality so far and haven't seen any vignetting, even in 16 mm (Freewell K2 filters). Good size and fair prize compared to other similar lenses.
Yeah I need to get some smaller vnd filters
@@EdProsser Or maybe larger, the Freewell K2 is pretty large and seems to work with most normal lenses. Which filter system do you use?
@@garreswe I have an H&Y Revoring - it's great and allows me to use it across different lens diameters - but I've used it for years and often wonder whether I should check out some alternatives just to see if there's a better option.
nice post production , love the colors. can you share your Lut.
I think I used the film vision powergrade on this
Your videos are always beautiful. Solid lens but out of my budget.
Yeah it's not the most budget friendly of the LUMIX S primes....
Great video, what filter are you using. The look is very cine creamy, I love it! Is it sharpness -5 or a filter? Or maybe the vlog is slightly softer, I mean, does the cineD2 have the same non clinical look?
I usually reduce mid detail in post. The S5iix doesn't have a negative sharpness setting, hopefully they'll add one! Some shots also have a 1/4 black pro mist
Thinking of pulling the trigger on this lens because of this video :))) Did you have any thought on a ND solution that might work better, matte box or bigger ND etc.... Cheers you have inspired me :))
The main culprit is the IBIS, a that moves the sensor relative to the ND solution, so it creates distracting vignetting shift, I'd recommend disabling the IBIS with this lens. I think if you have an ND pretty flush you should be good it's when stacking filters that I see the worst effect.
I love this lens! I've used it a lot for doc work and been using it as BTS cam too generally set camera to apsc mode to crop in a bit. Makes it very versatile.
@@EdProsser Thanks Chief!!!
Hey, Ed. I really like your videos! Thanks for your content! I have a Lumix s5IIx too and this camera is not compatible with the Rs3 Mini's Bluetooth, right? My question is: with the camera connected to the gimbal via cable, can I use the app's functions on the smartphone, such as moving the gimbal and recording normally for the app?
It was my understanding you could connect the gimbal to the camera and trigger record etc. I haven't tried it yet, I do have a video about the gimbal on my list but haven't had chance to get to it yet.
@@EdProsser No, you cannot connect the Rs3 mini or normal RS3 to the S5iix through bluetooth. I hope they change this at some point but it hasn't happened yet.
@@BikesAndBatallas and no BT support for the RS4 either. Only Sony seem to have BT remote control support out of camera manufacturers as Canon/Nikon aren't supported either.
@@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 what about RS4 Pro and Blackmagic? Can I control this lens on BMCC6k through the RS4 focus wheel?
Great material here!
Thanks!
Where was this shot, it looks gorgeous?
Mostly in Ostuni, Italy
Great video! Did you shoot the 18mm a lot at 1.8 for this video? I'm debating wether I would prefer getting a 14-28mm/4-5.6 for the increased flexibility in focal length or if I would miss the extra aperture. It looks like you got quite shallow dof in some of those shots of your model, I'm assuming you shot them wide open?
A mix of f stops but yes quite a bit at F1.8
IMHO, if you plan to do astro, then, 1.8 is indeed more than welcome. Otherwise, just go with the zoom.
what's your color correction situation on this footage?
I grade in resolve, using the FilmVision (Google it) powergrade as a base and go from there!
What lens would you recommend for short films, a 50 mm or a 20-60mm?
I prefer the 50, the 20-60 is probably more versatile tho but it's not a constant aperture.
I understand from the BTS image that you are using your ND filter too far ahead with the step-up and it is causing vignetting. If you use a one-piece filter converter, there is no problem.
Hey! This setup wasn't used for the whole review, even if it's flush without step up rings, I get some vignetting, but I do use a larger H&Y revo-ring VND.
@@EdProsser I got it!
Would this be a good choice for property video interiors? Or would it be best to go wider?
I think it'd be good! But I don't do that work so I'm not an expert!
@@EdProsser thanks for the response. On my full frame lumix system I can only go down to a 24mm, on my MFT camera I have a 6mm zero D by laowa for room wides and forgot that it is a 12mm with the 2X crop. Ends up on reflection the 12mm full frame equivalent is plenty wide. Just got excited researching the 18mm 1.8 FF for the Limux s5iix UA-cam rabbit hole!
Hey great video and footage. Did you shoot in crop mode (apsc)?
Mostly full sensor I think, slow motion is probably crop
@@EdProsser It looks so good man you have a lot of talent! Cheers!
@@SakkiDuran ah thank you for the kind words!
I tried for 10 days to try and get the Lumix S5 IIx and DJ RS3 mini together. And the DJ RS3 never calibrated cuz it couldn't seem to handle the weight. It was super disappointing. I wonder what your trick was to make it work.
Did you balance it all before? Also use the camera without a cage. What lens were you using?
I believe the mini has a 2kg payload maximum.
@@EdProsser - I was using the S5 iiX with a smallrig cage (and the adapter extension from small rig to accomadate for the cage for it). I was using the S 20-60mm lens. I tried balancing it with the camera on.
I am pretty sure I was hovering around 1.2 kg max payload (with all the battery and ssd drive attachment)
When it'd try to "balance" it would keep striking the lense against the gyro. I tried emailing DJI support but didn't get a reply back from them (and didn't want to risk the return capability) So ultimately sent it back.
Maybe I had a bad unit.
@@JeanLaValley hmm I just used bare camera and lens with a screw on filter was fine. Balanced it, then turned on and calibrated and was all good. Maybe cage + hard drive combo un balanced it
Loved this! So here you are in Italy on a getaway - wanting to shoot video while still enjoying the sites and sounds, etc. How do/did you set exposure for VLOG quickly? Just waveform or ?
I guess I'm just used to eyeballing it! I don't tend to use waveforms (would maybe on a professional job) but in this instance just run and gun with a VND and have a good feel of where to expose my image, and there's enough wiggle room with vlog to not have to have it absolutely perfect.
@@EdProsser Boo...but I get it. Your style is just so engaging. I'd like to see what you would come up with in a an incredibly mundane location or or task and then talk us through it. Like Snow Day when it's not snowing (just a lot of bare branches) or Country Walk when there is no crops in the field. Or Stef doing the dishes!
The other thing I have to compliment you on (and I went through your videos again just listening) is music selection. I know you were in radio/sound previously but your music always matches the tone, mood, and context of your visual. Would you be interested in doing a video on that?
Hahaha I will bare that in mind, the mundane cinematography challenge. Could be fun!
Re: music that's a cool idea I could do that. I really need to get on and make some non-gear related videos, but they never perform as well and I keep getting sent lenses to try out which I have a lot of fun shooting with.
But yeah need to do some more vids on music, composition, lighting and grading. Let me know if there's anything else that would be interesting
@@EdProsser Maybe just build the music as short segment/chapter in the review? Luv learning all these different ideas from you...
@@EdProsser Sound design is just so much of what makes a video great. I get mocked relentlessly for all my audio gear and editing in Audition, but subpar audio will absolutely undermine all the work you put into cinematography and grading. You can have the most beautiful match cuts, but if you have audio clipping or just poorly mixed, you're wasting talent. One great theoretical book is Audio Vision: Sound on Screen by Michel Chion, with an excellent introduction by the masterful Walter Murch.
And speaking of audio; I just cherish it for itself. I have terabytes of stereo and ambisonic-B clips of my children as they have been growing up. We are inundated with visuals to the point that a pure, clean audio clip just activates parts of your brain that wouldn't otherwise be if we had accompanying audio. When the pandemic hit I would record everyone banging pots and pans on their balconies here in Madrid. Last year, when my grandfather was dying (and in the throes of dementia), I was on the other side of the world (I have lived in Spain half my life now). So I sent him a beautiful stereo clip of my 5 and 7-year old daughters telling him how much we loved him as gentle waves crashed around their feet and the seafoam popped in sparkles as the water flowed out. So we said goodbye to him in the best way we could, and I never though once of it being a video. I treasure that clip because I know it moved him deeply hours before he passed.
There is power in what we do folks. I wish you all the best and thank you for making the content that you do.
Great video! Does this lens have distortion on faces or things if you go close enough, being a wide angle lens? Did you have any issues with it at all regarding this? Thankss!
Nothing too horrific! It's a very nice lens
Hello @EdProsser! I'm figuring out which ND filter to buy (for my Lumix S5 and 24-105 F4) and I was wondering if you could give me some advice :) Is it better to buy variable ND filters or multiple ND filters? I heard that variable ones are much more versatile but are worse in quality than individual filters. I also noticed in the video that you have an adapter, maybe? So that you can use the same ND filters for different sizes of lenses? Thank you in advance!!
My VND filter is the H&Y revo-ring it's great because it has a clever adjustable diaphragm which means you can put it on different filter thread sizes across diff lenses.
Generally yes a VND will be more liable to colour cast and image degradation than a single stop ND. But the trade off of versatility is usually worth it in time saved swapping filters on and off.
Can the rs3mini pro handle s5ii with 24-70 heavy lens ? Easily???
Hmm I've only tested it with the LUMIX S primes - that's all I plan to use it with to be honest, I think with something like the sigma 28-70 you'd be okay, but not the larger Sigma Art 24-70 - that's a bit of a beast.
@@EdProsser thank you for the honest reply ... I have a s5ii with Sigma art 24-70 . I needed a cheap good gimble for the same . So u thunk rs3mini can't handle the weight perfectly with filters ?
@@SidhantCreationskpg if you have the L mount version you might be able to get it to work, I think it would just be under the payload - you just might struggle to get the camera / lens combo balanced properly as it'll make stuff front heavy.
@@EdProsser ok sir thank you
I’m your new biggest fan
well HELLO new biggest fan, how are you?
Yeah good man. Love your videos, think I’ve watched like 20 in the last few days haha Thinking of pulling the trigger on a S5iiX
Haha thanks for checking them out!! Good luck with the decision in the S5 iix
Do you turn Ibis off when you use a Gimbal?
Great Video by the way but probably not so great for my wallet :P
I've only had the new gimbal for a month, before that barely used gimbals(!) Need to test more... But yes I would probably disable, might depend on the types of movement I was doing.
@@EdProsser Thank you for the feedback, I finally got my S52X (Arrived on Sunday) Before I had an S52 but I was unlucky and got a model with defect, send it back and ordered the X instead. Can't wait to go and shoot. I'm mainly a photographer tho :D
@@der.kommentierende.komment5275 whoop have fun!
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I think you mean e-stabilization, not IBIS. (Re warping)
No I meant IBIS, don't use any of the additional stabilisation.
When you show your talking head quite dark no noise ,but when you film your model i see some .Have you tryied to do noise reduction?
This is added film grain, the original images are all clean.
What is a camera you use lens set in your video?
I don't quite understand?
Almost every video had a bad chance of the wobbles I wonder if that could be fix
I think it's just the IBIS working over time and moving the camera around a lot, and also it's a lot of straight lines so you notice.
Hence recommendation you turn it off and aply stabilisation in post if needed ...
@@EdProsser gotcha thanks for the tip this is such a great video btw
A gimbal. Absolutely no warping with any of my WA/UWA lens (20-60 @ 20; 18) with my RS4.
18mm f1,8 or Sigma 16-28mm f2.8?
I am more partial to primes but the sigma zoom will arguably be more versatile!
What aps-c lens would you recommend for ultra wide to shot in 4K 60 crop mode?
I guess depends how wide you need to go, I think Laowa do a 12mm full frame lens
If youre budget conscious then the tokina 11-16
Panasonic should be paying you loads.
I know right!?
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thanks for papping the nice shots of me!
Excellent video mate. Totally agree with every point you made. When I first got my hands on the 18mm it quickly became a staple in my everyday carry, and even to this day it finds itself getting a lot of camera time.
Great footage as always, stop making the rest of us look bad xoxoxo
Thanks Joshi! I kinda wish I'd opted for the 35 over the 50 originally as just using that lens / focal length less and less these days.
Obviously the best lens for filming nostrils 😅🐽
You can get right up in there