Forever Winter is a song she wrote for her friend Jeff Lange who left the world because of suicide. It’s about depression and being able to notice when someone is struggling mentally.
I didn’t get Forever Winter at first listen because i was so overwhelmed by its production but when I had the chance to sit down and really listen to it, i fathomed it and realized it was one of the most special songs she’s ever written.
Your dad mentioned that he would want to hear Taylor sing a song where she was the one the one that ruined a relationship, but if he remembers, you guys did react to Back to December 😭
I think there's this popular misconception that Taylor either hates men or serial dates guys who treat her poorly. In reality, nearly every album she has is about *one* love interest each. Not every song is about a different guy. I guess you can see it as the album itself will be mourning/celebrating the relationship, and can be used as a tool to navigate and make sense of what happened. Some songs are fictitious (Stay, Stay, Stay), some songs are about the things her friends went through (Happiness), some are historical (Starlight), etc.
Plus, not everything is about her own experiences. She also writes about the romantic relationships of her friends, people she know, people that she don't know but feel connected with such as those in books and movies.
THIS. Each album is the story of a period in her life, usually one relationship and maybe the ending of the one before or beginning again with another. It's a reflection and snapshot of her life in that era and each song is a chapter (I think 1989 actually shows this the best, red is a close second though).
Better Man she wrote & gave to a band called Little Big Town, it won several awards. Babe she wrote & gave to a band Sugarland & was a huge hit. She stars in the music video & sang backing vocals. I get think about me. This song was nominated for a Grammy. Forever Winter is about mental illness after one of her best friends committed suicide. All Too Well 10 is considered one of the best songs ever written according to Billboard, Rolling Stone, and just about every critic on the planet. And it is considered her best song. It’s the longest Global #1 song in 50 yrs, dethroning American Pie. She performed it on SNL in 2021 when this album was released & it was named the best performance of the year and considered one of the best of all time.
Dad’s spiel right before Nothing New….bit ironic, talking about how she only writes about bad men….and then bam! This was her fear all along. Losing her novelty. Being shot down! No-one complains when male songwriters constantly write about their own heartbreaks. I think it might have been lost on you because you aren’t female. There is so much meaning to us girlies. But I guess that’s not your perspective. Fair enough.
yes Taylor Swift has had a lot of relationships, but so do a lot of young people. they just don't write and sing about it publicly. Red is mostly a sad breakup album mostly because she did go through a bad breakup while writing the album (same for the next album, 1989). most if not all of the breakup songs on this album are about the same guy, not multiple ones. and there *are* romantic or hopeful songs on the record like State of Grace, Stay Stay Stay, Treacherous, Begin Again, Run, Everything Has Changed, Message in a Bottle, or songs unrelated to relationships at all like The Lucky One, Nothing New, Ronan, and Forever Winter - which is about a friend who was suicidal, not a relationship. and as Taylor herself once said: "if guys don't want me to write bad songs about them, they shouldn't do bad things." is it possible for every guy she dates to be the problem? yeah but it's not likely, okay sure i'll give you guys that one. but Taylor also has songs and lyrics where she takes accountability in her relationships. Back To December from Speak Now was all about her swallowing her pride (literally in the lyrics) and admitting she's the one who messed the relationship up and she regretted it because he treated her so well. there's a song from her album Lover where she is outright admitting to something she did wrong and apologizing. she also got out of a 6 year relationship fairly recently. they were together from 2016-2022/2023. because of that relationship, she had very very few breakup songs on some of her more recent albums (Reputation and Lover) and more love songs. she writes purely from her own experiences (sometimes the experiences of those around her) and if heartbreak is what she's feeling then why not let her channel that? with that said, you guys seem to not be crazy about really poppy songs, so Reputation and Lover may not be totally up your alley. but if you're wanting love songs then surely you'll appreciate the topics and lyrics. :)
26:35 I think hurtful moments and painful relationships are more formative and impactful than easy, fun ones. I think Taylor, along with many other artists, use their art as coping mechanism and to process, you don’t typically have to cope or process positive experiences. But ultimately, Red is a breakup album. And vault tracks are almost always sad, and they were left in the vault to not be redundant in an album full of sad songs.
Remember she wrote this based on what she was going through at that time. A lot of songs are about the same relationship so it’s not about all men being bad. Just the one. Reputation and lover have so many songs about her falling in love and being in a long term relationship. You’ll get your redemption when you get there
Red is THE break up album haha also the reason why some of vault songs were left out was because there were too many break up song, so it makes sense we end up with a lot of them in Taylors version. But if you want happy Taylor I recomend Lover. Love your reactions
Your interpretation of All Too Well 10 min version is one I've never heard. I recommend you watch the short film to see what the song is really about. ❤
It's on my anxiety playlist and is genuinely difficult to listen to for me but I've NEVER heard anyone think it's lacking in meaning. My jaw dropped, if anything it feels overemotional and she didn't include it because the world wouldn't have been ready to hear young beautiful privileged taylor sing about crying in her room feeling like she's "nothing new". Hurt my soul a little even though I like hearing their different opinions.😪
I was thinking that maybe it’s more of a female experience we all go through 😂 How long will it be cute all this crying in my room when you can’t blame it on my youth and roll your eyes with affection. So relatable as a teenage girl in her mid twenties
@@folklore9062nope, it’s not about gender all the time. but nothing new is for women, lol…you don’t have to be a woman in order to appreciate it, but the song was written for women. and…that’s okay.
All Too Well Short Film reaction is up on Patreon 🫶🏻 www.patreon.com/PutYouOn? (Also Forever Winter is much more impactful with the backstory, definitely one of my favorites now with the meaning behind it. Beautiful track, ik it’s probably annoying to see us misinterpret it but yeah it’s great 🫶🏻)
54:00 - I think what Taylor is referring to when she says "you held my lifeless frame" is when you've been in a relationship that has beaten you down and exhausted you emotionally, that you end up just numb. So she's saying when they tried again for a second time, they tried to 'revive' what had 'died' between them, but she just had nothing left of her to feel or give anymore. Then you add in the element of "shame" she mentions. And you realise the complexity of feelings she is talking about when you go back to someone you know you shouldn't go back to. And how consequently it just isn't the same as it was before - although you desperately long for it to be. Anyway, I love your reflections and analyses of the songs. Your perspectives are always respectful and considered. I look forward to the 1989 video !!
I think Nothing New's message continues in the second verse as well, because she's talking about how she has to fake smiles. It also talks about how some younger girl will eventually replace her, and if she's just biding time until that happens. It's notoriously difficult for women to have longevity in the entertainment industry and have the same level of fame as when they were young. I think that song is about how she feels about that eventuality. Which is in and of itself a double standard. We don't look at men in the industry and say they are too old for roles or cast younger men as love interests. But we do that for women. She's commenting about how she feels her career has a shelf life.
Nothing New is about the experience of being a woman in the public eye (and specifically the music industry) and is about how women have to constantly reinvent themselves or be left behind. She's singing from the perspective of being worried that she's not young or shiny enough anymore and that she's going to be forgotten for the next new girl who comes along. This is where Pheobe comes in as that younger girl (who she's singing to and giving advice) who she thinks is going to be replacing her. She's going to be happy for her but is mourning and knows the cycle will inevitably repeat itself again when the next person comes along.** She's expressing the fear of her success having an expiry date the more people become bored of her and how she can feel her time in the prime of her career running out. "Lord, what will become of me Once I've lost my novelty?" "It's like I can feel time moving" "And will you still want me when I'm nothing new?" "People love an ingénue" **"I know someday I'm gonna meet her, it's a fever dream The kind of radiance you only have at 17 She'll know the way, and then she'll say she got the map from me I'll say I'm happy for her, then I'll cry myself to sleep"
Taylor has written many albums appreciating and loving joe, she has a lot of love songs Just saw the end of the video and you might do 1989 next which i LOVE. However my suggestion would REPUTATION. You will get to see a lot of male appreciation lol and her fierce side.
About the 10 minute version: She's not talking about a car accident. She says "you come back swearing it's the same after three months in the grave...", because they broke up and got back together a lot. Throughout the song you can see how they break up and then it goes back to "and there we go again..." because they get back together. "I forgot you long enough to forget why I needed to", because after a certain amount of time passes, you remember the good without the bad and that's dangerous if the person comes back and asks you to get back together because you might do it. That's why she says "you come back swearing it's the same", but they had been broken up for three months. And he NEVER said he loved her. He never said they were IN LOVE. "anytime now, he's gonna say it's love, you never called it what it was". If you listen to the song closely you can see how it's a full on "love story" or the story of a relationship. It's starts out good, but she doesn't really see how he's manipulating her in a way. He was 10+ years older than her and she was 20. And it's really interesting because throughout the song she says "I remember it all too well, I was there, I remember", because he used to gaslight her and make it seem like she was imagining things or making things bigger than they were. Oh, and the old red scarf she left... That's a metaphor for her virginity.
When Mike said that Girl at Home sounds less pop-y because of the production, I felt that. Girl at Home is actually one of those tracks that became a fan favorite in Taylor’s Version because of the improvement in production. The original was very pop-y and in this version it’s so much more laid back.
wait lol i'm sooo confused bc girl at home (taylor's version) has waaaaay more production on it/effects on her voice than the original, which is literally just guitar, bass, drums & no vocal effects? to me, the original is the laid back one & taylor's version is super pop-y & overproduced. me personally, i cannot get down with taylor's version cause it's too much happening & too different! obviously just my opinion but i'm just confused how people say taylor's version is more laid back 😆 am i going crazy?!
Run with Ed Sheeran is so beautiful. I think their voices fit so good. You missinterpret All too well 10 Minute version. There wasn't a car accident, she wasn't dead ir a spirit. The lifeless body described her in the toxic/one-sided relationship.its about her relationship with Jake Gyllenhaal.maybe you understand the song better once you've seen the short film for it. Also The moment I knew is connected to this song as in All Too well 10m she sings about how her dad told it its supposed to be fun, turning 21. The moment I knew is about that 21 birthday party if hers where she was sad as Jake Gyllenhaal as her boyfriend then promised/said he would be there and he didn't show like in the song.
Petition for your dad to listen to lover (literally an album about how happy she is in her comitted relationship at the time) or even reputation (the start of that relationship). There are some beautiful love songs she wrote for Joe whilst they were happy 😌 Edit: I'm now at the part where your dad talks about nothing new and i repeat my plea for lover. In 'the man' she explores her struggle as a woman/ vs how a man in her position would be treated a bit more in a fun and tongue in cheek kinda way. Noo, forever winter is so deeply sad. I don't think they caught the meaning? 😢😮😮
She's not talking about that many men, is just Jake here. In speak now is John. The rest of them didn't hurt her the same way this two did (gaslighting, manipulating, etc). Also, she was 20/21 when she was with Jake and he really fucked her up. The "lifeless frame" line is about them getting back together after he left her, and her realizing that she wasn't there anymore (in the relationship), that's why she's embarrased (all i felt was shame). Is a methaphor that starts with the realationship being dead and him digging it up (check the pulse and come back swearing it's the same after three months in the grave). The song is about the good parts of the realationship, but also the gaslighting that he put her through (i like to be myself again but I just can't find it), she doesn't know if things are real orin her head (I'm in a new hell everytime you DOBLE-CROSS my mind). This is why she keeps reapeting "I was there, I remember it all too well"
Congratulations to your sister/daughter wedding. I was very surprised that you guys liked Girt at Home. Its probably the track with most changes/variations in term of production and that stays away from the original version. Most of the fans don't like it but good for you guys. Personally, I love forever winter, it's my favorite from the vault. I understand why for some people is very simple but I just love visceral Taylor. The male redemption is in Reputation, Lover, Midnights and obviously the Iconic "Back To december" from Speak Now. I think Red was Taylor's biggest heartbreak and a crucial comming of age moment and that is reflected in the variaty of sound and experimetion in the songs. I'm kind of scared for the 1989 TV reaction (I'ts my favorite album from her) because its pure classic pop perfection, but I will be there to heard your thoughts about the songs.
Red is a thematic break up album. So each song relates to the idea of “mosaic broken hearts”. It’s looking at the prism of breakup and loss through one primary relationship. It’s fun to think about All to Well, The Moment I Knew, I Bet You Think About Me, 22, We are Never Getting Back Together having lyrical overlaps in storytelling the same relationship and the ever changing feelings she had during its breakdown.
Oh guys, i'm really disapointed that you didnt get Forever Winter. You just talk about the length, but not about what the song means and expresses. This is exactly what you were asking for: a song that's not about a breakup, but about being there for your friends and family when they are really down and won't say a word. Her friend commited suicide, and she wrote this song for him. It's really sad, and most people dont get it the first time. Maybe you should listen to it again.
Oh man.... You guys REALLY dropped the ball on Forever Winter. It's probably one of my all time favourite TS songs. It's about depression, addiction and suicide and has some of the most heartbreaking lyrics. And the horns on this track are just breathtaking.
Yeah, I wish they had read the context for it, just like with Ronan. Knowing also that she allegedly played it at her friend's funeral is... quite the emotional revelation, as well.
Yeah listening back with context changes the song a lot 👍🏼 I think it’s just a testament to her songwriting that it can come across as a breakup song on the surface even though it has much deeper meaning, love the horns as well 🫶🏻
At the concert they had mirror ball cups for mixed drinks. Yes I bought one 🙂and it sits in pride of place at my desk at work. I have also been to the movie and they didn't have the popcorn buckets the night I went. I was SO bummed. Love your reactions, thank you for being so open to listening to everything.
this is so iconic, im SOOO happy people are finally getting to know her and are allowing themselves too - because it's been such a "trend" to hate on her. I'm happy for her, but also for people, because she makes life 100000x better and easier. you just need to sit down, listen and read what she is saying, instead of judge her by her singles and the fake images the media has created of her. data says she will be bigger than Micheal Jackson by 2028, if she stopped putting out music before 1989 tv. and she is the most followed and streamed artist on Spotify history now. with her endless and genuine success and talent but also her, as a human... im so beyond proud of her. she is the poet of our generation.
Ronan died right before his 4th birthday. About 2 years later Mya had a baby girl, they named her Poppy Ronan. Ronan had 2 older brothers, which is why she mentioned the hand-me-downs.
Hi guys! I have been a Taylor fan for as long as i remember. I just want to say i love you guys so much. They way you two bond through music is EXACTLY how me and my dad are together talking about music. Listening to u guys feels like home. Ive laughed and cried with you already and ive only been subscribed for a week. I plan on watching each video. ❤❤❤Keep doing what ur doing!!!!! Much Love!!!!😊
I think the the "lifeless frame" is a metaphor for feeling like their relationship was a car crash (she's used this idea before in "Red") but the idea that she could be a spirit talking from behind the grave is a really interesting interpretation. Looking forward to one day hearing your thoughts on my fave, 1989.
Something I think adds a lot to understanding her music is putting each album in context of the others and looking at them all together in the timeline of their release - RED was after Speak Now, and you can hear the difference in how she writes about and understands love and reality vs fairytale. RED is also a breakup album, and I think reading like the album lyric booklet intros or something similar before y'all react is a way you could avoid spoilers but still hear some of her thoughts going into it. RED was also her last country album, and she got a lot of criticism for putting it within the country genre from country fans ("this is pop not country" type of stuff) despite it being something that her label basically made her do because of her "country artist" image, trying to keep her in that same box. I think of 1989 as her phoenix reborn after that experience, because she put her foot down and made purely and entirely pop album that was a massive success, showing that she was able to cross genres and stay relevant and successful (a la Shania Twain). So it's definitely something for you all to think about when reacting to 1989, since it leans SO pop, but the reasoning and context behind it, as well as her depiction in the media during that time! I agree with everyone that I'm PUMPED for y'all to react to Reputation, but it DEFINITELY needs some introduction to understand what happened between 1989 and then, the Kimye and #TaylorSwiftisOverParty, streaming service drama, plus meeting Joe, to then understand why Reputation is the way it is. Honestly I feel the same about Lover, since part of it's beauty is how it is a sister album/follow up to Reputation. Would love to see you both react to the Miss Americana documentary, because I think that also is such a wonderful insight into her as a person and artist, especially in the lead-up to Lover, and is so meaningful to look at with the perspective of her successes in the years since with folklore/evermore/midnights/Eras tour. Looking forward to one day a reaction to midnights especially :) I love watching you guys and love your insights and outsider takes, and the care and consideration you give to these songs despite just now hearing them!
Also appreciate how you guys remembered that this was a rerecord with this react vs the Speak Now, because it does explain some of the more "childish" views on love, because she was a child! Also, for your dad when he was listening to the vault - she recorded the Taylor's Versions recently, so the youthful voice you hear is just a mature taylor showing off her mad skills and being able to replicate her younger tone and sound lol It gets me everytime when I listen to the rerecords and hear that young taylor sound, knowing it's just her replicating what she used to sound like, especially after hearing folklore/evermore and knowing how her mature voice sounds now
Something I think yall missed is that the song "The Moment I Knew" is about a specific moment that the 10 minute version of All Too Well references. The part about the guy charming her father but then he saw her watch the door all night willing him to come and he said its supposed to be fun turning 21. It was her 21st birthday and he essentially stood her up which to be that young and celebrating such a big milestone, that can be devastating. To be in love and to have the moment of realization that its not reciprocated like you thought during your 21st birthday party...that will forever be her memory of her 21st birthday. You only get one lifetime and you only turn 21 once but instead of it being a joyous memory of fun like it is for most, shes gonna remember it as the moment she got her heart broken for the first real time...thats so powerful when you think about it in that context and thats why All Too Well 10 and The Moment I Knew are two of my absolute favorite songs by her!
I love you guys! I look forward to your reactions so much!!! As a staunch Forever Winter defender, I have to throw it out there: it may be helpful to listen with its context in mind - a friend of hers who ended his life. ALSO - I LOVE Message In a Bottle. SO glad you enjoyed it!! Looking forward to your next TS reaction
Today was such an overwhelming day and watching this made me so calm. I definitely need to make a playlist of the second part of Red TV as a comfort playlist, or even come back to see this reaction again. It kinda has a happier and more cheerful vibe and I really enjoyed the conversation around the album.
i want to preface this by saying i really enjoyed your reaction! you guys have thoughtful commentary on both lyrics and production and i appreciate that. and thank you for showing girl at home some love, i feel like so many people don't like it 😭 but i did want to share my perspective as a swiftie: i think something that the general population forgets is that taylor doesn't write these songs as revenge against these men who have wronged her or whatever, she just writes her feelings like diary entries. and sometimes those feelings are angry or sad. and she doesn't claim "this is objectively how the relationship went down", she's just expressing how SHE felt. and people enjoy her music because she can articulate emotions in a way that make people think "i've felt this exact same way before", whether that's about a relationship, a friendship, a family member, misogyny, etc. and this album just happens to be THE taylor swift heartbreak album, so it's bound to have lots of sad/angry songs about relationships but yes she also has positive love songs (a lot of reputation and lover songs) and songs where she acknowledges that she's in the wrong too (ex. back to december, afterglow, the great war). and when people say stuff like "damn taylor can't keep a relationship, maybe she's the problem" -- she acknowledges that in anti-hero. also that criticism is rarely levied against men like leonardo dicaprio who date a lot. i hope this is not taken as an attack because it's not intended to be one. it's just that there has been this media narrative, particularly in the early-mid 2010s, that taylor is some vengeful man-hater (which she addresses in blank space) and i don't fault people for having absorbed some of that narrative if that's all you've really heard about her, so i hope sharing my perspective can provide some food for thought anyways, i still enjoyed your reaction and appreciate your open-mindedness in trying out new music and sharing your thoughts! and congrats to megan!!!
love all your honest and sincere reactions :) another great video! I really can't wait for you both to hear the rest of her catalogue and experience the growth in her storytelling.
The thing with Nothing New is, it's meant to encompass a blend of different feelings revolving around being a young woman and being treated like no matter what you do you're always going to be criticized for something (too opinionated if you speak your mind in group conversations, too comfortable with your body if you wear revealing clothes, too prudish if you dress and act conservatively in the dating world, just always "too much") and also specifically in the music industry the feeling there's a ticking clock hanging over her head counting down to when she's going to be considered old and irrelevant and no longer worth being backed by radio and music labels. Being raised that the way you live should be determined by what will please others is something a lot of women identify with and she talks about people-pleasing in other songs.
I love how you guys go in blind not knowing any of the Taylor Swift lore, the stories or bfs behind the songs.. gives a fresh perspective & its nice to see after being a fan of hers for so long. Love your reaction vids keep em coming!!
All Too Well 10 minute version hit on a different level if you had been listening to the original version since it first came out, the way the new parts were unfamiliar yet fit into the flow of the song so well was actually mindblowing on first listen
I think the lifeless frame part was a metaphor because of their repeated breakups and their dynamic really affecting her, like she said about him coming back to her but ‘all I felt was shame’
Red was specifically about her short relationship with Jake Gyllenhaal and the breakup was very traumatic for her. She does talk positively about men. Or did you miss those discussed in Begin Again, Stay Stay Stay, etc.
I think you guys would really enjoy the “I Bet You Think About Me” music video. It offers a little more context to the song and is just beautifully done. Thanks for always giving your open and honest opinions!
20:47 i literally still cannot ever listen to ronan without crying. it's the saddest song I have ever heard in my life, and it is just also so incredibly heartfelt and emotional. there is no other song like it in the world
love you guys - but i think your videos and reactions would be really elevated by having brief contexts for each song before you listen! it’s really great to formulate your own ideas and opinions of her songs, but there are so many things that you both missed because it is buried in the knowledge of the swiftie fandom. we are the best fans and we would be so happy to help you! for example, i think your reaction to forever winter would of been SO enhanced by reading a few sentences on the song before listening.
Always love your reactions and so agree with everything you said at the end. Especially on the first listen it's hard to feel the way we do after sitting with these songs for so many years. I am the biggest Swiftie and love so many songs I didn't die over on the first listen that are now my absolute favourites. Every song has it's place in her discography and the talent is just undeniable, so fun watching others discover her depth
This song The Moment I Knew is so extremely beautiful and emotional and it’s definitely one of my favorites on this album. It is said that this is about Jake not showing up at her 21st birthday and she pretty much breaking down and crying in the bathroom with her for trying to comfort her or something along those lines.
Nothing New is just so PERFECT and very much the female experience. Im not critizacing but i do think there are some things you guys will never understand 100%
In my opinion from the outside, i think the issue with Taylor’s exs is that they never liked that she was the more famous person, their egos couldn’t handle it and it created different types of issues. Which is the only reason i think Travis and Taylor might have a chance, since he isn’t ashamed instead he’s proud about it.
Love your reactions! I very much look at the Vault tracks as ones that were redundant in some way, or not part of the sound/message of the album, or were cut for a reason -- and view them with that lense. It's cool that we get them fully produced, and how it introduces new music from this era of her life (also a neat way to entice fans to play Taylor's Version songs)! And yes, she writes a lot of songs about break ups and boyfriends, but there are a good many that she writes from a romantic angle (so it has wider appeal) but may be about something unrelated to a boyfriend/lover.
omg reading these comments I thought you guys were gonna be DICKS 😂 I should’ve known better 😂😂😂 I do agree that the redemption comes w/ rep & lover! (whether you guys will like those albums…. that’s another story - I personally do 😌 lover did take quite a few listens to warm up to ngl). hearing mike say he’d like to listen to her country stuff made me want a fearless tv reaction SO BAD. I LOVE that album. it is very teenage girl but if you can just sit in that and let it take you over, man you’ll be blown away by what she could do at 18. keep on keepin on you guys! I hope people don’t start making you feel like these reactions aren’t worth it if you don’t always have only praises - that is OKAY!! and the rest/most of us love these ❤
There was no car accident in the 10 min All Too Well. They break up, but after 3 months he tries to reaerect the already dead relationship. So they have sex again, but she feels nothing because her heart had already been broken. "And then you wonder where it went to, when you reached to, and all I felt was shame, as you held my lifeless frame" is a reference to feeling regret about having sex even when you know it was over months ago.
You need to listen to lover and reputation for all the men redemption / love songs. It took her awhile to find a good guy haha, but thats just the female experience.
would love if you did lover or 1989 tv next! love the reactions and opinions you both have, even when I don't agree with some! great video as always ^-^
Forever Winter is a song she wrote for her friend Jeff Lange who left the world because of suicide. It’s about depression and being able to notice when someone is struggling mentally.
yeah it shouldn't be left in the vault at all its an important song
Got me through some tough times last year
I didn’t get Forever Winter at first listen because i was so overwhelmed by its production but when I had the chance to sit down and really listen to it, i fathomed it and realized it was one of the most special songs she’s ever written.
Literally one of my favorites of hers, their opinion offended me almost personally...
@@wehaveadarkside it might've been difficult to release the song when the family and friends are still mourning. I'm glad it's finally out though.
“Did you listen to anything I said for the last five minutes?” 😂😂 Ive said that to my dad so many times 🤣
As Taylor said “"if guys don't want me to write bad songs about them then they shouldn't do bad things" 😊
Your dad mentioned that he would want to hear Taylor sing a song where she was the one the one that ruined a relationship, but if he remembers, you guys did react to Back to December 😭
midnight rain is another one
also champane problems & afterglow
also getaway car, in which she admits she was the problem
I mean nearly half of fearless is her admitting it
I think there's this popular misconception that Taylor either hates men or serial dates guys who treat her poorly. In reality, nearly every album she has is about *one* love interest each. Not every song is about a different guy. I guess you can see it as the album itself will be mourning/celebrating the relationship, and can be used as a tool to navigate and make sense of what happened. Some songs are fictitious (Stay, Stay, Stay), some songs are about the things her friends went through (Happiness), some are historical (Starlight), etc.
There are also a few albums that are nearly all sweet love songs from her 7 year relationship.
Plus, not everything is about her own experiences. She also writes about the romantic relationships of her friends, people she know, people that she don't know but feel connected with such as those in books and movies.
THIS. Each album is the story of a period in her life, usually one relationship and maybe the ending of the one before or beginning again with another. It's a reflection and snapshot of her life in that era and each song is a chapter (I think 1989 actually shows this the best, red is a close second though).
WOAHHH i always thought happiness is about scott and her kinda forgiving him and accepting everything..
Taylor wrote Forever Winter for one of her best friends that committed suicide. Maybe you'll appreciate it more if you look at it in that angle.
Red is a heartbreak album. It’s about a girl in her early 20s getting her heart shattered really for the first time deeply
That's why the album name is Red, it means a Red flag
@@luckywolf123 no it’s about the color red and the feeling of passion while falling for someone and then getting heartbroken.
Better Man she wrote & gave to a band called Little Big Town, it won several awards. Babe she wrote & gave to a band Sugarland & was a huge hit. She stars in the music video & sang backing vocals.
I get think about me. This song was nominated for a Grammy.
Forever Winter is about mental illness after one of her best friends committed suicide.
All Too Well 10 is considered one of the best songs ever written according to Billboard, Rolling Stone, and just about every critic on the planet. And it is considered her best song. It’s the longest Global #1 song in 50 yrs, dethroning American Pie. She performed it on SNL in 2021 when this album was released & it was named the best performance of the year and considered one of the best of all time.
All too well 10 is a lyrical masterpiece, I genuinely think it's the greatest heartbreak song in history.
Dad’s spiel right before Nothing New….bit ironic, talking about how she only writes about bad men….and then bam! This was her fear all along. Losing her novelty. Being shot down! No-one complains when male songwriters constantly write about their own heartbreaks. I think it might have been lost on you because you aren’t female. There is so much meaning to us girlies. But I guess that’s not your perspective. Fair enough.
she ate him up with that one for real
yes Taylor Swift has had a lot of relationships, but so do a lot of young people. they just don't write and sing about it publicly. Red is mostly a sad breakup album mostly because she did go through a bad breakup while writing the album (same for the next album, 1989). most if not all of the breakup songs on this album are about the same guy, not multiple ones. and there *are* romantic or hopeful songs on the record like State of Grace, Stay Stay Stay, Treacherous, Begin Again, Run, Everything Has Changed, Message in a Bottle, or songs unrelated to relationships at all like The Lucky One, Nothing New, Ronan, and Forever Winter - which is about a friend who was suicidal, not a relationship.
and as Taylor herself once said: "if guys don't want me to write bad songs about them, they shouldn't do bad things."
is it possible for every guy she dates to be the problem? yeah but it's not likely, okay sure i'll give you guys that one. but Taylor also has songs and lyrics where she takes accountability in her relationships. Back To December from Speak Now was all about her swallowing her pride (literally in the lyrics) and admitting she's the one who messed the relationship up and she regretted it because he treated her so well. there's a song from her album Lover where she is outright admitting to something she did wrong and apologizing.
she also got out of a 6 year relationship fairly recently. they were together from 2016-2022/2023. because of that relationship, she had very very few breakup songs on some of her more recent albums (Reputation and Lover) and more love songs. she writes purely from her own experiences (sometimes the experiences of those around her) and if heartbreak is what she's feeling then why not let her channel that?
with that said, you guys seem to not be crazy about really poppy songs, so Reputation and Lover may not be totally up your alley. but if you're wanting love songs then surely you'll appreciate the topics and lyrics. :)
Much more nicely said that what my fingers were ready to type. Thank you very much for this thoughtful response
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all of this.
If I could pin this I would!!!
26:35 I think hurtful moments and painful relationships are more formative and impactful than easy, fun ones. I think Taylor, along with many other artists, use their art as coping mechanism and to process, you don’t typically have to cope or process positive experiences. But ultimately, Red is a breakup album. And vault tracks are almost always sad, and they were left in the vault to not be redundant in an album full of sad songs.
But she has written multiple love songs, and a couple of "apology" songs
Remember she wrote this based on what she was going through at that time. A lot of songs are about the same relationship so it’s not about all men being bad. Just the one.
Reputation and lover have so many songs about her falling in love and being in a long term relationship. You’ll get your redemption when you get there
y’all heard Back to December, that was her owning up and apologizing!
“did you listen to anything i just said the past 5 minutes” 😭😭. God bless dad’s heart, he’s trying !!!
Red is THE break up album haha also the reason why some of vault songs were left out was because there were too many break up song, so it makes sense we end up with a lot of them in Taylors version. But if you want happy Taylor I recomend Lover.
Love your reactions
Your interpretation of All Too Well 10 min version is one I've never heard. I recommend you watch the short film to see what the song is really about. ❤
A lot of male redemption when you guys react to “Lover”. I cannot wait for you guys to react to this album.
nah that one is her worst album tho 🙈🙈🙈
@@AllTheArtsyeven if it is her “worst” album in your opinion, it still is a great album. I love would to see their reaction to it.
@@AllTheArtsy for u I love that album
@@AllTheArtsy that's your opinion because the commercial success and cruel summer going #1 from 5 years are laughing at you.
lover qnd rep
The nothing new disrespect is killing me lol
It's really brutal and honest
And so beautiful
It's on my anxiety playlist and is genuinely difficult to listen to for me but I've NEVER heard anyone think it's lacking in meaning. My jaw dropped, if anything it feels overemotional and she didn't include it because the world wouldn't have been ready to hear young beautiful privileged taylor sing about crying in her room feeling like she's "nothing new". Hurt my soul a little even though I like hearing their different opinions.😪
I was thinking that maybe it’s more of a female experience we all go through 😂
How long will it be cute all this crying in my room when you can’t blame it on my youth and roll your eyes with affection.
So relatable as a teenage girl in her mid twenties
nothing new is for women, so it makes sense that they’re not able to appreciate it fully…still hurts though lol
@@danie11eleeanne I'm not either but I feel what she wanted to convey so it's not necessarily about gender all the time
Just my opinion
@@folklore9062nope, it’s not about gender all the time. but nothing new is for women, lol…you don’t have to be a woman in order to appreciate it, but the song was written for women. and…that’s okay.
Forever Winter being one of Taylor’s best songs in her discography and they say “keep in the vault.” 💀😭
All Too Well Short Film reaction is up on Patreon 🫶🏻
www.patreon.com/PutYouOn?
(Also Forever Winter is much more impactful with the backstory, definitely one of my favorites now with the meaning behind it. Beautiful track, ik it’s probably annoying to see us misinterpret it but yeah it’s great 🫶🏻)
54:00 - I think what Taylor is referring to when she says "you held my lifeless frame" is when you've been in a relationship that has beaten you down and exhausted you emotionally, that you end up just numb. So she's saying when they tried again for a second time, they tried to 'revive' what had 'died' between them, but she just had nothing left of her to feel or give anymore.
Then you add in the element of "shame" she mentions. And you realise the complexity of feelings she is talking about when you go back to someone you know you shouldn't go back to. And how consequently it just isn't the same as it was before - although you desperately long for it to be.
Anyway, I love your reflections and analyses of the songs. Your perspectives are always respectful and considered. I look forward to the 1989 video !!
39:55 the video for I Bet You Think About Me is SOOOP iconic
I think Nothing New's message continues in the second verse as well, because she's talking about how she has to fake smiles. It also talks about how some younger girl will eventually replace her, and if she's just biding time until that happens. It's notoriously difficult for women to have longevity in the entertainment industry and have the same level of fame as when they were young. I think that song is about how she feels about that eventuality. Which is in and of itself a double standard. We don't look at men in the industry and say they are too old for roles or cast younger men as love interests. But we do that for women. She's commenting about how she feels her career has a shelf life.
Nothing New is about the experience of being a woman in the public eye (and specifically the music industry) and is about how women have to constantly reinvent themselves or be left behind. She's singing from the perspective of being worried that she's not young or shiny enough anymore and that she's going to be forgotten for the next new girl who comes along.
This is where Pheobe comes in as that younger girl (who she's singing to and giving advice) who she thinks is going to be replacing her. She's going to be happy for her but is mourning and knows the cycle will inevitably repeat itself again when the next person comes along.**
She's expressing the fear of her success having an expiry date the more people become bored of her and how she can feel her time in the prime of her career running out.
"Lord, what will become of me
Once I've lost my novelty?"
"It's like I can feel time moving"
"And will you still want me when I'm nothing new?"
"People love an ingénue"
**"I know someday I'm gonna meet her, it's a fever dream
The kind of radiance you only have at 17
She'll know the way, and then she'll say she got the map from me
I'll say I'm happy for her, then I'll cry myself to sleep"
Taylor has written many albums appreciating and loving joe, she has a lot of love songs
Just saw the end of the video and you might do 1989 next which i LOVE. However my suggestion would REPUTATION. You will get to see a lot of male appreciation lol and her fierce side.
Yeah 1989 TV has one real love song (You Are In Love), maybe 3 if you count I Know Places and Slut
About the 10 minute version: She's not talking about a car accident. She says "you come back swearing it's the same after three months in the grave...", because they broke up and got back together a lot. Throughout the song you can see how they break up and then it goes back to "and there we go again..." because they get back together. "I forgot you long enough to forget why I needed to", because after a certain amount of time passes, you remember the good without the bad and that's dangerous if the person comes back and asks you to get back together because you might do it.
That's why she says "you come back swearing it's the same", but they had been broken up for three months. And he NEVER said he loved her. He never said they were IN LOVE. "anytime now, he's gonna say it's love, you never called it what it was".
If you listen to the song closely you can see how it's a full on "love story" or the story of a relationship. It's starts out good, but she doesn't really see how he's manipulating her in a way. He was 10+ years older than her and she was 20. And it's really interesting because throughout the song she says "I remember it all too well, I was there, I remember", because he used to gaslight her and make it seem like she was imagining things or making things bigger than they were.
Oh, and the old red scarf she left... That's a metaphor for her virginity.
When Mike said that Girl at Home sounds less pop-y because of the production, I felt that. Girl at Home is actually one of those tracks that became a fan favorite in Taylor’s Version because of the improvement in production. The original was very pop-y and in this version it’s so much more laid back.
wait lol i'm sooo confused bc girl at home (taylor's version) has waaaaay more production on it/effects on her voice than the original, which is literally just guitar, bass, drums & no vocal effects? to me, the original is the laid back one & taylor's version is super pop-y & overproduced. me personally, i cannot get down with taylor's version cause it's too much happening & too different! obviously just my opinion but i'm just confused how people say taylor's version is more laid back 😆 am i going crazy?!
wait huh? the new version was way more poppy than the original
Lol she improved the production for the new girl at home, or are you just mistaken
Run with Ed Sheeran is so beautiful. I think their voices fit so good. You missinterpret All too well 10 Minute version. There wasn't a car accident, she wasn't dead ir a spirit. The lifeless body described her in the toxic/one-sided relationship.its about her relationship with Jake Gyllenhaal.maybe you understand the song better once you've seen the short film for it. Also The moment I knew is connected to this song as in All Too well 10m she sings about how her dad told it its supposed to be fun, turning 21. The moment I knew is about that 21 birthday party if hers where she was sad as Jake Gyllenhaal as her boyfriend then promised/said he would be there and he didn't show like in the song.
Takes a special breed of men to review this kind of music and cry on UA-cam, what a breath of fresh air.
I loved the dancing to Message in a Bottle!! 😂🎉 It's one of my all-time favorite Taylor songs! Also, the popcorn buckets are only for the movie! 🍿
i think you and your dad would really like safe and sound by her. it was between red and 1989 era
Petition for your dad to listen to lover (literally an album about how happy she is in her comitted relationship at the time) or even reputation (the start of that relationship). There are some beautiful love songs she wrote for Joe whilst they were happy 😌
Edit: I'm now at the part where your dad talks about nothing new and i repeat my plea for lover. In 'the man' she explores her struggle as a woman/ vs how a man in her position would be treated a bit more in a fun and tongue in cheek kinda way.
Noo, forever winter is so deeply sad. I don't think they caught the meaning? 😢😮😮
Tbh I didn't catch the meaning of forever winter until the fandom told me
This did not age well 😂
Hahaha this isn't about multiple heartbreaks, it's about just one particular guy! The redemption will come! Love your reactions!
yes! Jake Gyllenhall is the only target in red
you cannot know that
She's not talking about that many men, is just Jake here. In speak now is John. The rest of them didn't hurt her the same way this two did (gaslighting, manipulating, etc). Also, she was 20/21 when she was with Jake and he really fucked her up.
The "lifeless frame" line is about them getting back together after he left her, and her realizing that she wasn't there anymore (in the relationship), that's why she's embarrased (all i felt was shame). Is a methaphor that starts with the realationship being dead and him digging it up (check the pulse and come back swearing it's the same after three months in the grave).
The song is about the good parts of the realationship, but also the gaslighting that he put her through (i like to be myself again but I just can't find it), she doesn't know if things are real orin her head (I'm in a new hell everytime you DOBLE-CROSS my mind). This is why she keeps reapeting "I was there, I remember it all too well"
Who told these lads to wear suit and tie and vibe to Message In A Bottle? Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣 the awkward dance definitely something we didn't thought we need.
Hope you're ready for Ronan TV.
No one is ever ready for Ronan. 😢
Congratulations to your sister/daughter wedding.
I was very surprised that you guys liked Girt at Home. Its probably the track with most changes/variations in term of production and that stays away from the original version. Most of the fans don't like it but good for you guys. Personally, I love forever winter, it's my favorite from the vault. I understand why for some people is very simple but I just love visceral Taylor.
The male redemption is in Reputation, Lover, Midnights and obviously the Iconic "Back To december" from Speak Now. I think Red was Taylor's biggest heartbreak and a crucial comming of age moment and that is reflected in the variaty of sound and experimetion in the songs.
I'm kind of scared for the 1989 TV reaction (I'ts my favorite album from her) because its pure classic pop perfection, but I will be there to heard your thoughts about the songs.
Red is a thematic break up album. So each song relates to the idea of “mosaic broken hearts”. It’s looking at the prism of breakup and loss through one primary relationship.
It’s fun to think about All to Well, The Moment I Knew, I Bet You Think About Me, 22, We are Never Getting Back Together having lyrical overlaps in storytelling the same relationship and the ever changing feelings she had during its breakdown.
agreeee!! great comment :)
Oh guys, i'm really disapointed that you didnt get Forever Winter. You just talk about the length, but not about what the song means and expresses. This is exactly what you were asking for: a song that's not about a breakup, but about being there for your friends and family when they are really down and won't say a word. Her friend commited suicide, and she wrote this song for him. It's really sad, and most people dont get it the first time. Maybe you should listen to it again.
i love this album and really love the back half of tv so much. so well done always and so well performed.
Oh man.... You guys REALLY dropped the ball on Forever Winter. It's probably one of my all time favourite TS songs.
It's about depression, addiction and suicide and has some of the most heartbreaking lyrics. And the horns on this track are just breathtaking.
Yeah, I wish they had read the context for it, just like with Ronan. Knowing also that she allegedly played it at her friend's funeral is... quite the emotional revelation, as well.
agreed! forever winter is beautiful and heartbreaking. made me so upset that they missed that
Yeah listening back with context changes the song a lot 👍🏼 I think it’s just a testament to her songwriting that it can come across as a breakup song on the surface even though it has much deeper meaning, love the horns as well 🫶🏻
@@christianseibold3369 absolutely. There is not one suggestion of romance in any of the lyrics.
Lover and reputation have some of her best love songs! You get the full Taylor in love and it’s beautiful!
Yay!! I watched part one and was crushed when I realized I had to wait 5 days for part 2 😂
Cried all over again with State of Grace acustic and Ronan 💔 Loved the reaction. As alwaysss
Back to December is a song where she owns up to mistakes she made in a relationship
dressed up for the occasion, W 🔥🔥🔥
Message in a bottle is so underrated! It was my surprise song :)
At the concert they had mirror ball cups for mixed drinks. Yes I bought one 🙂and it sits in pride of place at my desk at work. I have also been to the movie and they didn't have the popcorn buckets the night I went. I was SO bummed. Love your reactions, thank you for being so open to listening to everything.
Thanks so much for watching and mirrorball cup that’s so cool 😭
this is so iconic, im SOOO happy people are finally getting to know her and are allowing themselves too - because it's been such a "trend" to hate on her. I'm happy for her, but also for people, because she makes life 100000x better and easier. you just need to sit down, listen and read what she is saying, instead of judge her by her singles and the fake images the media has created of her. data says she will be bigger than Micheal Jackson by 2028, if she stopped putting out music before 1989 tv. and she is the most followed and streamed artist on Spotify history now. with her endless and genuine success and talent but also her, as a human... im so beyond proud of her. she is the poet of our generation.
Ronan died right before his 4th birthday. About 2 years later Mya had a baby girl, they named her Poppy Ronan. Ronan had 2 older brothers, which is why she mentioned the hand-me-downs.
Hi guys! I have been a Taylor fan for as long as i remember. I just want to say i love you guys so much. They way you two bond through music is EXACTLY how me and my dad are together talking about music. Listening to u guys feels like home. Ive laughed and cried with you already and ive only been subscribed for a week. I plan on watching each video. ❤❤❤Keep doing what ur doing!!!!! Much Love!!!!😊
Thank you so much, love right back at ya and we got a packed couple of weeks of videos coming to end the year !!
I think the the "lifeless frame" is a metaphor for feeling like their relationship was a car crash (she's used this idea before in "Red") but the idea that she could be a spirit talking from behind the grave is a really interesting interpretation.
Looking forward to one day hearing your thoughts on my fave, 1989.
If you want more of Taylor talking about being madly in love with a guy you’ll have to react to reputation and lover!
Something I think adds a lot to understanding her music is putting each album in context of the others and looking at them all together in the timeline of their release - RED was after Speak Now, and you can hear the difference in how she writes about and understands love and reality vs fairytale. RED is also a breakup album, and I think reading like the album lyric booklet intros or something similar before y'all react is a way you could avoid spoilers but still hear some of her thoughts going into it. RED was also her last country album, and she got a lot of criticism for putting it within the country genre from country fans ("this is pop not country" type of stuff) despite it being something that her label basically made her do because of her "country artist" image, trying to keep her in that same box.
I think of 1989 as her phoenix reborn after that experience, because she put her foot down and made purely and entirely pop album that was a massive success, showing that she was able to cross genres and stay relevant and successful (a la Shania Twain). So it's definitely something for you all to think about when reacting to 1989, since it leans SO pop, but the reasoning and context behind it, as well as her depiction in the media during that time!
I agree with everyone that I'm PUMPED for y'all to react to Reputation, but it DEFINITELY needs some introduction to understand what happened between 1989 and then, the Kimye and #TaylorSwiftisOverParty, streaming service drama, plus meeting Joe, to then understand why Reputation is the way it is. Honestly I feel the same about Lover, since part of it's beauty is how it is a sister album/follow up to Reputation.
Would love to see you both react to the Miss Americana documentary, because I think that also is such a wonderful insight into her as a person and artist, especially in the lead-up to Lover, and is so meaningful to look at with the perspective of her successes in the years since with folklore/evermore/midnights/Eras tour. Looking forward to one day a reaction to midnights especially :) I love watching you guys and love your insights and outsider takes, and the care and consideration you give to these songs despite just now hearing them!
Also appreciate how you guys remembered that this was a rerecord with this react vs the Speak Now, because it does explain some of the more "childish" views on love, because she was a child! Also, for your dad when he was listening to the vault - she recorded the Taylor's Versions recently, so the youthful voice you hear is just a mature taylor showing off her mad skills and being able to replicate her younger tone and sound lol It gets me everytime when I listen to the rerecords and hear that young taylor sound, knowing it's just her replicating what she used to sound like, especially after hearing folklore/evermore and knowing how her mature voice sounds now
Something I think yall missed is that the song "The Moment I Knew" is about a specific moment that the 10 minute version of All Too Well references. The part about the guy charming her father but then he saw her watch the door all night willing him to come and he said its supposed to be fun turning 21. It was her 21st birthday and he essentially stood her up which to be that young and celebrating such a big milestone, that can be devastating. To be in love and to have the moment of realization that its not reciprocated like you thought during your 21st birthday party...that will forever be her memory of her 21st birthday. You only get one lifetime and you only turn 21 once but instead of it being a joyous memory of fun like it is for most, shes gonna remember it as the moment she got her heart broken for the first real time...thats so powerful when you think about it in that context and thats why All Too Well 10 and The Moment I Knew are two of my absolute favorite songs by her!
I love you guys! I look forward to your reactions so much!!! As a staunch Forever Winter defender, I have to throw it out there: it may be helpful to listen with its context in mind - a friend of hers who ended his life. ALSO - I LOVE Message In a Bottle. SO glad you enjoyed it!! Looking forward to your next TS reaction
The audible gasp i had when you said to leave Forever Winter in the vault. Listen again and listen to the words.
Today was such an overwhelming day and watching this made me so calm. I definitely need to make a playlist of the second part of Red TV as a comfort playlist, or even come back to see this reaction again. It kinda has a happier and more cheerful vibe and I really enjoyed the conversation around the album.
Glad we helped ❤
The forever winter slander........
i want to preface this by saying i really enjoyed your reaction! you guys have thoughtful commentary on both lyrics and production and i appreciate that. and thank you for showing girl at home some love, i feel like so many people don't like it 😭
but i did want to share my perspective as a swiftie: i think something that the general population forgets is that taylor doesn't write these songs as revenge against these men who have wronged her or whatever, she just writes her feelings like diary entries. and sometimes those feelings are angry or sad. and she doesn't claim "this is objectively how the relationship went down", she's just expressing how SHE felt. and people enjoy her music because she can articulate emotions in a way that make people think "i've felt this exact same way before", whether that's about a relationship, a friendship, a family member, misogyny, etc. and this album just happens to be THE taylor swift heartbreak album, so it's bound to have lots of sad/angry songs about relationships
but yes she also has positive love songs (a lot of reputation and lover songs) and songs where she acknowledges that she's in the wrong too (ex. back to december, afterglow, the great war). and when people say stuff like "damn taylor can't keep a relationship, maybe she's the problem" -- she acknowledges that in anti-hero. also that criticism is rarely levied against men like leonardo dicaprio who date a lot.
i hope this is not taken as an attack because it's not intended to be one. it's just that there has been this media narrative, particularly in the early-mid 2010s, that taylor is some vengeful man-hater (which she addresses in blank space) and i don't fault people for having absorbed some of that narrative if that's all you've really heard about her, so i hope sharing my perspective can provide some food for thought
anyways, i still enjoyed your reaction and appreciate your open-mindedness in trying out new music and sharing your thoughts! and congrats to megan!!!
You two are looking very dapper, very gentlemanly. Also, once again you guys are so warm, kind and thoughtful when doing your videos.
Red tv is a breakup album and most of the songs are about the same guy ( Jake Gyllenhaal 😅)
love all your honest and sincere reactions :) another great video! I really can't wait for you both to hear the rest of her catalogue and experience the growth in her storytelling.
The thing with Nothing New is, it's meant to encompass a blend of different feelings revolving around being a young woman and being treated like no matter what you do you're always going to be criticized for something (too opinionated if you speak your mind in group conversations, too comfortable with your body if you wear revealing clothes, too prudish if you dress and act conservatively in the dating world, just always "too much") and also specifically in the music industry the feeling there's a ticking clock hanging over her head counting down to when she's going to be considered old and irrelevant and no longer worth being backed by radio and music labels. Being raised that the way you live should be determined by what will please others is something a lot of women identify with and she talks about people-pleasing in other songs.
I love how you guys go in blind not knowing any of the Taylor Swift lore, the stories or bfs behind the songs.. gives a fresh perspective & its nice to see after being a fan of hers for so long. Love your reaction vids keep em coming!!
All Too Well 10 minute version hit on a different level if you had been listening to the original version since it first came out, the way the new parts were unfamiliar yet fit into the flow of the song so well was actually mindblowing on first listen
I think the lifeless frame part was a metaphor because of their repeated breakups and their dynamic really affecting her, like she said about him coming back to her but ‘all I felt was shame’
most of taylors songs actually are written acoustically first! she likes her songs being able to be stripped back and still be appreciated
Wow, you guys look so spiffy!!!
YEEESS!!! 1989 VIDEO NEXT WEEK !!
I love your videos, it’s like experiencing the album for the first time with you.. thaank you
Red was specifically about her short relationship with Jake Gyllenhaal and the breakup was very traumatic for her. She does talk positively about men. Or did you miss those discussed in Begin Again, Stay Stay Stay, etc.
I think you guys would really enjoy the “I Bet You Think About Me” music video. It offers a little more context to the song and is just beautifully done. Thanks for always giving your open and honest opinions!
20:47 i literally still cannot ever listen to ronan without crying. it's the saddest song I have ever heard in my life, and it is just also so incredibly heartfelt and emotional. there is no other song like it in the world
and the fact that forever winter is on the same tracklist right after is illegal as well
love you guys - but i think your videos and reactions would be really elevated by having brief contexts for each song before you listen! it’s really great to formulate your own ideas and opinions of her songs, but there are so many things that you both missed because it is buried in the knowledge of the swiftie fandom. we are the best fans and we would be so happy to help you! for example, i think your reaction to forever winter would of been SO enhanced by reading a few sentences on the song before listening.
Always love your reactions and so agree with everything you said at the end. Especially on the first listen it's hard to feel the way we do after sitting with these songs for so many years. I am the biggest Swiftie and love so many songs I didn't die over on the first listen that are now my absolute favourites. Every song has it's place in her discography and the talent is just undeniable, so fun watching others discover her depth
ooph, Mike gets judgey when he's tired 😅😂 (honestly same)
Y’all are so wholesome and I appreciate you ❤
She actually has an album filled with songs about a good lover, entitled Lover, and she also has a song there admitting her wrong in a fight ☺️
A lot of swifties make fun of Girl at Home because of the production. I’m so happy you guys like it as much as I do
Can’t wait for 1989 taylor’s version🎉
Y’all look fantastic!! Congrats 🎉 Weddings are such a blessing
This song The Moment I Knew is so extremely beautiful and emotional and it’s definitely one of my favorites on this album. It is said that this is about Jake not showing up at her 21st birthday and she pretty much breaking down and crying in the bathroom with her for trying to comfort her or something along those lines.
This is the craziest interpretation of All Too Well that I heard from the dad and I love it
i’ve been waiting on this one!!! thanks guys!
The banter after better Man was so good
Loved it! Thank you so much! I cant believe how you felt about forever winter but you liked message in a bottle and girl at home so i cannot complain!
Nothing New is just so PERFECT and very much the female experience. Im not critizacing but i do think there are some things you guys will never understand 100%
Come back… be here is greatness and so beautiful. I really love it 😍 ❤
In my opinion from the outside, i think the issue with Taylor’s exs is that they never liked that she was the more famous person, their egos couldn’t handle it and it created different types of issues. Which is the only reason i think Travis and Taylor might have a chance, since he isn’t ashamed instead he’s proud about it.
Love your reactions! I very much look at the Vault tracks as ones that were redundant in some way, or not part of the sound/message of the album, or were cut for a reason -- and view them with that lense. It's cool that we get them fully produced, and how it introduces new music from this era of her life (also a neat way to entice fans to play Taylor's Version songs)! And yes, she writes a lot of songs about break ups and boyfriends, but there are a good many that she writes from a romantic angle (so it has wider appeal) but may be about something unrelated to a boyfriend/lover.
What a great team father and son make. Good job!
Love this reaction , My fav from the vault is Message in a Bottle and yesss its a fun song. This song's so underrated in swifties' eyes in my opinion
omg reading these comments I thought you guys were gonna be DICKS 😂 I should’ve known better 😂😂😂 I do agree that the redemption comes w/ rep & lover! (whether you guys will like those albums…. that’s another story - I personally do 😌 lover did take quite a few listens to warm up to ngl).
hearing mike say he’d like to listen to her country stuff made me want a fearless tv reaction SO BAD. I LOVE that album. it is very teenage girl but if you can just sit in that and let it take you over, man you’ll be blown away by what she could do at 18.
keep on keepin on you guys! I hope people don’t start making you feel like these reactions aren’t worth it if you don’t always have only praises - that is OKAY!! and the rest/most of us love these ❤
I appreciate that very much. We’re gonna keep on keeping on we love doing it 🫶🏻 thanks for your support
There was no car accident in the 10 min All Too Well.
They break up, but after 3 months he tries to reaerect the already dead relationship. So they have sex again, but she feels nothing because her heart had already been broken. "And then you wonder where it went to, when you reached to, and all I felt was shame, as you held my lifeless frame" is a reference to feeling regret about having sex even when you know it was over months ago.
You need to listen to lover and reputation for all the men redemption / love songs. It took her awhile to find a good guy haha, but thats just the female experience.
You guys make me so happy. Your connection is adorable!
You both are awesome! How about you guys react to 1989 Taylor’s Version or Midnights next? 😊
Congrats to your sister ❤🎉🎉
Thank you! ❤
would love if you did lover or 1989 tv next! love the reactions and opinions you both have, even when I don't agree with some! great video as always ^-^
For the love songs I recommend you to listen to the "Lover" album, a really stand-out masterpiece