HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT At Fab Rats!! Plus, The Off Road Roll Back Starts Up!
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I was so worried that you were gonna announce an expensive app to watch you on 😮
Not sure who would be anti producing a tool bag. Trust you that it was that way.
Soon see a MORR version of this but it will deffinately have 1 major difference, Claw instead of the ball pien.
I used band clamps on my miter cut stacks then welded the rest lol
If you could smash that T section of the crossover pipe into an oval shaped pipe it would gain a lot more clearance , just a thought 🤔👍
Run the fuel line like a semi truck. In a semi the suction and the return line have tees mounted in the center up high on the frame with equal length lines going to each tank. This equalizes the fuel in both tanks buy the siphon principle. Semis used to run bottom crossovers but they stopped in the 90's to prevent fuel spills.
That works well on level roads, not sure how well it'll work off road.
@dangerrangerlstc it will work the same as the bottom crossovers. Semis use a vent with a floating ball that closes the vent if the truck gets inverted or if parked on an angle and one tank gets overfill. Like when they get layer on their side.
@OhCanada1867 it's not the vent I'm worried about. I work on semi trucks for a living. Proper equal draw, equal return relies on the fuel weight in each stand pipe being equal for it to return and draw correctly. If, when the fuel level is below a 1/4 tank, either one of the stand pipes comes out of the fuel, it will suck air and shut off. For Paul's case, bottom draw with a sump would be ideal. Less chance of sucking air. Maybe bottom draw on both tanks with some sort of simple float check valve so if one tank uncovers the sump with fuel, it will close off and suck from the other tank.
Once you have it all hooked up and running make sure you keep the vent tube clean and don't let it get clogged up! It will run all the fuel from one tank out and the other tank will be full! I have this problem in my kenworth ! Though I ran out of fuel but still had one tank full!
@mrcschubbyboymodels2503 they leave the draw 1/4 off the bottom so debris and water don't get sucked up. Paul isn't Matt so I'm not too worried about him running the fuel so low one side sucks air. Extreme angle crossover takes a while. Unless the truck is parked on a severe angle for a while it should be OK.
Compliments to the editor (Michelle?). I noticed today for the first time the little plinky-plink banjo music while the guys figit and figure things out. Smiling
You need to watch Gale Banks videos on the reared cover you just put on your off-road rollback. It makes your fluid foam. It also starves your pinion bearings. He made clear covers and cameras inside reared. Was a very good series’s on those large rear end covers!!!!! Worth watching. Was very educational…….
Hey Paul, before you instal the headache rack, rattle-can some Rhino Liner behind the cab from that patina rust down !! Give the old girl a little protection back there !! The rest of the patina on the wrecker is "bad-ass" 😎
Paul you should check out the banks diff covers. From what I have seen on them they really did their homework and come up with a superior design. Thank you for the great content and God bless.
Hello Paul, just wanted to say that the valves on your fuel tanks need to be mounted to the tank directly, with the valves hooked to short red hoses now the red hoses can be ripped off now you can't shut the fuel off. Just saying!
When Hunter said he is a real man today it made me wonder (with all the training you guys are giving him) just how far away is Hunter from being a 'Total Man'. :) I would say that any parent who has a son like Hunter or any of the other FabRats kids that are in the show should be real proud. Keep up the great videos, I sure enjoy them.
I know a guy who used to squint like that when working above his head. He only lost one eye before learning the importance of safety glasses.
Might be a good idea to put 1/2 SS tubing with Swagelok fittings. Will be a lot cleaner look for the tank crossover line than the hose.
That flat back differential cover may create foamy oil. Be careful!
Hey Paul. Mr. Banks has uploaded some diff cover videos recently. You should check them out. He has a lot of old school wisdom and paired it with new school R&D. I know you just put a new cover on the rollback, but it is still good info to chaw on for a minute.
@FabRats The Fuel Cut-Off Valve should screw directly into the Tank, not in the line itself!
congrats on the tool bag. Looks really cool.
Flex pipe, and stretch clamps are wonderful inventions lol
Paul's new 'go to' line, "it should be fine" cracks me up. A sure sign of a competent fabricator/mechanic. Run what ya got and fix it along the way. I love it!
I was in military aviation maintenance. “It should be fine” was our motto. Not!
"It should be fine" don't work at 10,000 feet!!!@@jgrenwod
Tool kit is a great idea! Hope you sell a bunch. Gale Banks has a very interesting video on diff covers. Most of the aftermarket diff covers create more friction in the oil and end up with higher differential temps than the factory cover.
I like wrench rolls to organize the combo and open end wrenches.
Your right fuel tank is capped on the top. If the left is the same, your fuel pump is pulling the tanks to vacuum, which would also pull down your fuel header pressure. Each tank should be vented so it can flow fuel/not get collapsed. Maybe install conventional top mounted pumps/returns to each tank with a fuel selector switch is the safer/easier way to go.
I second this. Vacuum in the tanks by not having some sort of breather port. Hence why it starts initially, but pulls too much vacuum for the pump to keep pumping, so the engine shuts off.
Its not pulling a vaccum that fast.. Yes they need to bw vented but that is not the problem they are running into right now.
@@nsaanity I for sure think he would be. Enough to fire it for like 10 seconds, but once the vacuum accumulates it shuts off, breathes air in from somewhere, and allows it to start marginally again until it reaches vacuum enough that the pump cant suck any more liquid into the motor
Im no car expert, just kinda using basic physics I feel. He plugged everything for welding, the suction of the pump into the motor will continue to create a vacuum in the tanks
I did get an old model 400 big cam Cummins to run backwards.. the valve lash and Jake brakes had to be dead nuts set perfect. But, once that was good and running, you hit the Jakes hard and long enough. She'd blow a fireball out the stack and spin backwards... Coolest thing I ever saw!
Love watching these vids, I wish I could weld better, I'm learning and slowly doing more and more on my own stuff, watching you guys helps me too, Another great vid love watching them come together
Are the fuel tanks pressurizing? I don’t know if they’re vented or not. If the return line is pressurized that much it’s probably pressurizing the tank and stopping the feed line. Try removing the cover you burned out and see if it stays running. Theirs a lot more fuel returning to the tank than people would think. Worth a shot?
Need a heat shield between gas tanks and exhaust pipes!
When they were still using a fuel crossover line, there were 2 valves, one for each tank, and the crossover line was supported by a piece of angle iron, the way you have it, if it gets snagged by anything, that entire line could be torn off, which is something you don't want
You are gonna want to run your fuel line above your drive shaft just like on a semi. Also, I would put your crossover line out the front or back of the tank, not the bottom, to avoid them being broke off. Just a suggestion.
Could work, but you wouldn't ever get an equal amount in the tanks if you were to run them down toward almost empty. If they were raised, they'd only end up equalizing to the highest point of the crossover tube. Which is why they're mounted from the centre and under the driveshaft. They'll no doubt build a skid plate and have the crossover tube secured to the top of the plate to keep it level but at the lowest point of the tanks. They can put it higher up, but that's only if they're not ever planning on going down to less than 1/8th of a tank. I imagine with tyre/tire size it'll have more than enough ground clearance to not have the potential of hitting the tube. I doubt Paul will be taking this through trails that would be certain to catch the tanks. If anything hits the bottom of the tank, that's a big problem. It wouldn't take much to open either tank up with an impact or from scraping a rock or the ground. Pretty sure bottom centre is the best and only real place to have crossover tubes if you want both tanks to all have an equal amount of fuel when they're low on fuel. You can guarantee they'll run into situations where they run pretty low. IF the crossover tube is not at the very bottom, they'd run into issues with the tanks not being equally fuelled, which would mean you wouldn't know how much fuel you've got left.
@jonnywilson9117 The suction from the vacuum side of the lift pump helps it to pull from other tank. I've never had an issue yet. This is why on semis the cross over tube is ran under the cab right above the trans. The cross over tube is ran in the middle of the tank and has a pick up tune running to the bottom. The vacuum from the primary pulls from the secondary to keep constantly equalization in both tanks.
@@adamvargo403 It doesn, no I just got to that part and yes they're running fuel from the bottom of the tank instead of out the top. But I imagine separate lift pumps for each tank would be pointless and just a waste of money when they're not actually needed.
@jonnywilson9117 don't need separate lift pumps for each tank just one, again like on a semi truck. From the side of the tank there is a pick up tube that runs to the bottom of the tank. The lift pump pulls from the primary, and the suction from the primary pulls the fuel from the secondary to equalize the tanks. No need for 2 lift pumps. It's the same setup on a semi that I'm explaining.
Good morning I like the smoke stacks on the off road rollback.
I guarantee when you get done people will hear you before they see you.
I would have Merlin come down to help since he is a diesel expert.
Even though you spent the money on the Mag-Hitec cover, you may want to watch the Banks videos on the problems associated with those extra capacity style covers. Gale Banks even builds clear covers to show what occurs in the diffs.
Awesome! Can't wait for this build. Glad you re-attacked that fuel line and cut-off. Be safe(to a point) & have fun! !
You may need to run an electric lift pump on this truck. If you are running a large diameter feed line, just the weight and volume of the fuel in the line can stall out mechanical factory pumps. Not too mention, since the electric pump will be before the fuel heater and filter you should see leaks easier
Paul, you have a unique look at the camera when you anticipate success. I had noticed it several times and thought that is confidence at its best. It tells me, "if you have a car that needs built up, I can do it!”
Do yourselves a favor and ditch the factory fuel filter housing and block mounted lift pump and get a FASS or Airdog. You will not regret it!
Many diesels can be started backwards. They usually won't run well, and they will intake through the exhaust and exhaust through the intake. Saw it happen on a Cat motor grader. The operator lugged it to a stall, with compression on one cylinder, and it re-fired backwards. He drove it back to the yard backwards in high gear. He thought it was funny, but it wrecked the engine because the oil pump was running backwards and the bearings ran dry.
Why not use a banks deff cover
Man!! if it ain’t one thing, it’s another!! And Paul, and everybody else does outstanding, Absolutely outstanding, Excellent work!! I am really, really looking forward to the day when everything is finally finished, because this is going to be without a doubt an over the top, rig!! YES 👏 YES 🙌 YESSSSSSSSS
I've been using a tool roll for like that a while. They are great. All the emergency stuff AND extra room.
Just a thought. If you plumb both tanks separately with their own fuel pumps, you will not only have full redundancy, you will have the ability to transfer fuel from one tank to the other.
Finally the “Fab” is back in the Fabrats. Love the build videos. The rollback is going to be so sweet!
Boy Paul Landon's getting big I remember when I first started watching you he was a little guy they grow so big don't they
There's a lot of good comments that may help you in solving your problem! I wish I had the answer for you, but I have leave them up to the experts! The stacks look so good on the truck, I know we all appreciate you taking us along for the build! I look forward to seeing all of your videos each week! Keep up the builds and we'll keep watching! Til next time,take care, and we'll see you on the next. 😊
Keep in mind that if your fuel reurns to a separate tank than the tank you draw from and you close the shut-off valve. You will drain 1 and over fill the other.
That fuel line sets my teeth on edge. Looking forward to seeing how you protect it.
Faith
not to mention the Fuel Filters/Water Sepurator
Never let the smoke out 😢
guess you should head down and lend your expertise.
I AGREE ABOUT THAT HOSE HANGING DOWN. A DISASTER JUST WAITING TO HAPPEN STRETCHED ACROSS UNDER THE DRIVESHAFT. LOVE THE TRUCK AND THE FAB RATS ARE AWESOME! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS!!
Also your fuel return should be on the same side of your draw because the fuel isn’t going to equalize from side to side so fast s as the return sends fuel back. Oh yeah if you can put your crossover at the end of each tank instead of off the bottom you will have less issues with it getting broken off. Check with Merlin I’m sure he’ll confirm that. Oh yeah I love your channel. Change is good but don’t change who you really are. It makes it all work.
I carry a similar tool roll in my truck. A roll is great because is doesn't rattle like a toobox and it fits in more spaces. I like the zippered compartments in your roll.
Hey Paul for your fuel crossover, what you should do is instead of having it go directly across the underneath the drive line you should put in some 90s and run it along the frame and across the transmission crossmember and back so it’s protected
I love the No Fear attitude towards your builds! I have one suggestion, Gloves, years in a fab shop.I ran lasers cutting steel from 1/16 to 3/8, and a brake press bending the same parts, Leather gloves saved me so many injuries. It takes some time to get used to working with gloves, but! you will get used to them and they will save your hands.. The incident with Paul and the sawsall made me post this. So many great ideas and results, Be Safe..
I did see you on your trip. In the little town of Moriarty NM. I wont say where i dont want to spoil anything for you. You all seem like a fun bunch! Catch me on your way back and i'll buy you lunch.
That old Chevy is going to wicked, she’s really going to be looking good when done. Thanks for all the entertaining videos and knowledge you guys send out to the world.
Referencing the tool bag: "Something you can throw in your Jeep to get home." That cut us Jeep owners deep Paul haha.
You are definitely going to need flex pipe on the exhaust. You need flex.
Get with Darr and let him help with the fuel lines set up. Bet he can point you in the right direction.
The fuel system needs to be air tight. Steel beaded lines so the lines do not collapse. Always use bigger lines to ensure good flow.
💯 % agree!!
Would add. Merlin may have to help them troubleshoot the fuel delivery issue, so he can straighten things out on the fuel system.
Water....that's some funny looking Mt. Dew!
The flat back high capacity diff cover is not all it's cracked up to be. I ran one on my dually hauling heavy and my diff oil always smelt burnt. More fluid only means longer to heat up and more oil to try and cool off. There is a reason that factory covers contour the ring gear. It provides better flow to the pinion area and reduces turbulence/aeration in the oil. Banks did a really good video on how the oil flows with one of these type covers.
Just a piece of advice to you, consider installing shut off valves for the cross over lines on your tanks. If you drop a drive shaft or something catch’s that line it’s never a good outcome . From a older retired trucker.
What I love the most about this channel is the entire family is always involved in every build. And every build is do ne by using what parts that is on hand and only buy parts if needed just like a working man or woman would do after work everyday! Paul is staying true to his roots of the channel
Tripod Ben camera&speakers so Ben can still add his humor
Tripod setup so Ben can see the work progress&comment
Same like bobblehead ed/do a bobble Ben camera face time&speaker so Ben still be in the shop bens cornerhe can do interview comments(talking heads)pic
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Cool project. Doesn't that cross over need to be inside a steel tube for protection?
The toolbags are a relly good design being individual pockets. Definitely checking that out.
I'm having a hard time getting back into this project, thanks a lot you guys,🙄, but thanks for sharing.👍
Thanks for making.
A tube of gasket sealant, a few tire plugs & a sidewall patch would be cheap additions
But that would probably drive the price up to $400😂
Honestly it seems like not a bad deal. Even with the tools. It seems like just paying for the bag plus to cost.
Wow! Talk about forward thinking! Great concept!
are you going to put some sort of heat shielding between the vertical exhausts and the 2 fuel tanks?
I feel your pain on the sawzall kick back. Been there - done that. Great content.
Looks n sounds great, and it wouldn't be fun if you didn't have obstacles, great work Team FABRATS!!
The fuel tanks look sweet! Where did you purchase them?! The size looks perfect for a project we’re working on!
Paul and Fab Rats Crew... Those stacks 👀👀👀👀 BAD A, BAD A, BAD A, BAD A, BAD A, BAD A, BAD A, BAD A!!! 😁😁
Interesting to watch as always. So does this mean that Matt will have to put a subcategory in the wrecker games for off road rollbacks? 😂
the pipes to close to the fuel tanks in Australia it has to be 6 inches from the fuel tanks or a heat shield
Love your choice of a slight turn-out on the stacks, rather than straight back.
😎
measure and BOLT yourself a piece of Angle from frame rail to rail to attach your cross over line too.. if your sucking fuel from top of tank be sure you installed the O-ring between your fitting and the suction tube .. otherwise it WILL suck air
Does the tool kit include 3 spare 10mm sockets? Those blasted things just seem to vanish! :)
I have a few spare 10mm want to trade for 13mm they seem to run from my jeep.
Paul I've always been told not to use flat dif covers because they don't allow the gear oil to flow the way it is supposed to and you wined up burning up your rear-end. Have you found that to be true
Great idea with the tool bag,only one thing missing. Paul you need to get to write small book of off road wisdoms to throw in the kit. Your knowledge is vast and useful.
They sell band clamps for truck exhaust. That way the parts are replaceable without having to do all the work again.
As the project inches forward. There’s always gonna be Bumps in the Road. Slowly Gainin Paul and Sean. Stacks looks nice. 🤙😎
Paul,
Speaking from experience with logging rigs I can tell you that fuel cross over line is going to cause you allot of problems. I suggest you hard pipe it and either go forward and across where the tranny mount is or go backwards and cross above the rear axle, it needs allot more protection for your intended use. Also those shut off valves need protection as well, trust me they are not that strong, it will only take 1 rock, 1 tree stump, low hanging limb or a slight high center to break them, and there goes your fuel. PROTECTION, PROTECTION, PROTECTION. Oh and 1 other thing, you need to consider the heat that exhaust system is going to have on the fuel tanks, and cab (heat).
hello from Humble, TX. Looking good. You can be proud of you work. Love your vids. Can't wait to see the next one. Thank you for taking the extra time it takes to make them.
Cleveland,Tx
Sweet sound of a Cummins! Nice.
Looking good+ one idea-ya might want to protect that red hose from getting snagged along the trail with just a crossbar of angle iron-take care
I was thinking the same thing. Even putting it in a piece of pipe.
Who cares, they got a tool bag to fix it.
You guys need to watch the videos from Banks performance about differential covers. You'd think the higher capacity and fins help but it's probably doing more harm than good.
Perfect! That’s exactly the type of tool bag I been looking for 😱 🤘
I'd much rather see that cross over hose run up along side the frame rails and cross above the trans cross member for protection. Just saying.
Maybe a steel protection skid plate under the tanks to protect them and the bung on the bottom too.
Hey Paul, out here in norcal we also have a big problem with biodiesel clogging up fuel filters. Lots of guys are running the airdog2 system which upgrades the fuel pump and gives you basically a huge pre fuel filter that can allow the huge cat filters if you want to run them. You rarely have to change the primary filter as it is now protected by the airdog system. I’m sure Merlin is familiar. It’s been a big help for me and since I’m in a 6.7, the primary filter is tucked in behind the left inner fender & it’s a pain to get to. Now I just reach under the chassis and spin the airdog filters on and off.
Also, retired San Jose fireman here and been involved in spec writing and building rescue rigs( one has a knuckle boom crane). We use the crap out of go lights on all our rigs. They make black ones that might look good on top of the headache rack. One on each side. The controls mount nicely on an inside console. It’s nice because you can aim light where you need it during a recovery.
Hope this helps.
Going to be some heat on the fuel tank Paul, maybe you can wrap some heat resistant tape around the exhaust pipes by the tank! Just saying, I don’t know your thoughts about it brother! I just know those pipes are definitely going to get hot! 👌🏻👍🏻 I bet it’s going to sound good!
Tool set and bag is an awesome idea. Too many wheelers are heading out with nothing.
Not for $350!
@@timothygeiger8271for $100 I could put together the same kit with quality tools
$493 for us Canadians!@@timothygeiger8271
@@timothygeiger8271!!!!!!
Everytime i look at that fuel tank set up the more i fear seeing bad stuff happening....i don't know but for offroad use the goal is to reduce the chance of things getting hit and i can for sure see the fittings and hoses finding that one bolder or branch. It might be a pain to set up but id look into running a fuel selector valve and dual pumps.
Not sure what the plan is in the long haul with this truck but I would advise using an after market fuel pump and filter like FASS or AirDog. Will help keep your CP3 cooler in the long term. Love the vids and can't wait to see the next one!!
No CP3, he’s got a 12 valve in there.
Ben, if you read this. Would love to see you once in two weeks on this channel. Just to see you back. Would be great.
Stacks are looking good!
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
When loaded are you going to be front end light??
Store agricultural suitcase weights on headache rack,,
Relocate ballast as needed?
1/2 to 3/4 of the bed will be in front of the back tires.
Trying to imagine who would go into the backcountry without the tools needed to get back home, and than I remembered the world we live in. I like the tool bag, looks like a good design.
Sometimes you just need to be smarter than the hammer in the tool bag. 🤪
Unfortunately there are lots of people that aren’t as we see in videos every day.
Money doesn’t buy brains.
Don’t judge too harshly. Most everyone learns through experience of one type or another. I wouldn’t begrudge someone the ability to do a little off roading just because they can’t afford a couple hundred dollars worth of extra tools to keep in the vehicle.
People collect that stuff over time as they need it in most cases.
My wife and daughters wouldn’t know what to do if their cars broke down but they do know where the tools are in the cars so if someone stopped to help at least they had something to work with. On the plus side, all of them can fill the car with fuel and change a tire if necessary. All of them have changed a tire after getting bored waiting for AAA to show up.😂
I guess you missed the recoveries of all the mini-vans and mustangs.... Not only no tools, but not even a proper vehicle. =)
@@JimYeats
Then you still need to be smarter than the hammer and not wheel alone or attempt situations that are beyond your skills and vehicles abilities.
Paul I'll be on the lookout for you passing through the area with the yellow submarine. I'll try running blocker for the DNR guys looking for quagga mussels. 😁
Just an idea, but I think your crossover line should be a hard line.
I'd keep the tanks separate on a switched supply, that way when you run the first one empty going in, you know you still have enough to get back out!
Love the tool bag. Wish I hadn’t just made one of my own…
If possible, I would attach the crossover fuel line to a piece of 1 1/2" angle iron.
Paul just an idea do think it wouldn't be a bad idea to build some sort of skid plate under the bottom and a rock slider kind of on the out side of those fuel tanks to maybe keep from rupturing a hole in one of those. That's kind of been a concern of mine ever since you hung those bad bouys on there. Y'all got her looking good though. Love the content keep it coming and maybe one of these days this ole Alabama bouy can make it out to visit you all one day. Love, Peace, & Bearing Grease until next time.
Well the only thing that will make that trip better for us is if you take your crack cameraman with you, good ol'Hunter.
I'm impressed how close you got the exhausts to the fuel tanks without them actually touching..!!
Touching or not that seems way to close, they'll find out.
@@RMonkey It's diesel, not petrol. You still don't want it to get hot, but it's not the explosive risk that petrol would be.
Super heated diesel burns more efficient than... Let's say ambient air temperature diesel.... 😂
@@KarlEllertrue, you only need to worry when the tanks are mostly empty so they have more vapor, and when you are going really slow off road, like rock crawling, but those conditions will never be met..... 😅
That looks great 👍 thanks for letting me watch.
It's good idea to leave exhaust clamps in some spots so it's easier to make repairs and assembly is also easier. Also use mounts in strategic places so just smaller parts can be removed.
Have you not seen their past builds? They weld almost everything. When they need to repair, they break out the sawzall, plasma cutter, etc. ...then weld it all back together again. Apparently it's easier...and faster? 🤷🏻♂️
They need to learn about the wonderful world of flex pipe!!
No exhaust clamps for removing those stacks? I'm glad its your roll back. lol After owning 21 tractors and 27 53' trailers, you build in serviceability as you ARE going to be removing those rascals. Just a suggestion.
It'll flex enough, they can just take the exhaust apart where it is broken.