I'm a bit puzzled by your click polling rate graphs, what is Keyboard Inspector actually measuring? Pzogel from TechPowerUP found a consistent click latency decrease with higher polling rates down to 0.4ms (on the Viper V3), wouldn't that inply a higher than 2khz polling? Anyways, I'd highly recommend you try the newer chinese-made mice such as the ATK F1/X1, Scyrox V8, Lamzu Maya X or VXE Mad R. All of these run on the latest CompX firmware and have basically everything you could ask for : 8khz, 3950, Nordic MCU, low latency/esports mode etc.
I also measured about 0.35ms less latency with the viper at 8K than at 4K. My guess is that the latency difference is processing related. Thanks for the suggestions!
I always find it funny that there are some folks and pros that concetrate too much on their perpheral latency when in reality the game network latency plays a bigger factor. In one gaming session of valorant you can get a change in ping per match for at least 5-10ms, and teammates and enemies have vastly different ping. I agree that peripheral latency doesn't really matter as long as it's decent. Everyone should just focus on their gameplay.
plus I am tired of weight and polling rates are the biggest flaws to these people. I honestly could care less and instead care about how a mouse feels for big handed people.
This is true but this would also be an additive. So if the match has really terrible ping and then you add the latency of all your peripherals. Things can get out of hand very quickly, with that being said unless you are playing at the top level it shouldn't be that big of a deal. However some of the best of the best take all gaming seriously and that is why videos like these are so helpful.
@@hankstorm3135 and still, both matters in a multiplayer game, there is also server processing time, there are so many latencies that are outside your control, that a 2ms faster mouse wont really make a difference between hitting a target or no (also, click to photon is also a thing, and matter WAY more than click to usb, and is dictated by mouse, usb, controller, CPU, GPU and monitor COMBINED)
I just stumbled upon your channel the other day and have been thoroughly enjoying all your content. Keep up the great work! I've been using the Vaxee NP-01S Wireless for the last 1-2 years and it's been really great. The build quality and reliability have been top tier and the form factor really glues itself to my hand. Good luck all on finding your perfect mouse!
Just got the Ninjutso Sora V2 and I am very impressed. Feels great for flicking and tracking, super light, and the shape is way better than the superlight.
Great video! Just wish you included the super lite 2 on the charts based on how popular it is. It now supports up to 8K polling with a firmware update as well.
I feel so bad for Xtrfy because the MZ1 Wireless is such a great form and feel. The other stats are nothing to write home about but they are still great. I hardly ever see the MZ1 in anyone reviews and I really think its a hidden gem! I love mine and always see myself coming back to it. I wish they would bring an updated version of it. This way it could bring itself back into the lime light! I really love the feel, look, and estics.
Hi, great video! I have a quick question. I used to play with the Zowie ZA13, and I think its shape is one of the best. However, there's no wireless version of this mouse. Could you recommend a similar mouse, perhaps from Vaxee? I would really appreciate your opinion. Thanks!
Wireless ZA13 is coming soon :) It should be great mouse since Zowie improved already with U2. The price will be high as always though but if you know you love it just get the real one 👍
Let me tell you. You should try out the Scyrox V8. It's like a mix of the X2H mini and Sora V2. Also pretty affordable. Such a great mouse. (I have both the X2H mini and Sora V2 for reference).
8K polling is pure scam in my opinion. Majory of the users will not be able to keep apart 1K vs 4K vs 8K. It's insane that mice on 99USD called budget nower days. Ansonsten super Content, mach weiter so
3395 and 3950 sensor is a very minimal difference, compared to sensor changes in the past also unless you are playing on an extremely high end pc and monitor (300+ fps) theres really no point to 4k or 8k polling it may give you a "smoother" feel... but the power consumption isnt worth a placebo feeling. only things that truly matter when picking a mouse are: - shape - switch implementation - skates - coating dont feel fomo for a new sensor or polling if you love the shape of your mouse or when looking to buy a new one! these things matter way more.
Doesn't Razer use Motion Sync which only "polls" when thered an update? In that case it's not unstable but rather you aren't moving thr mouse fast enough to require 8kHZ instead of, for example, 7.5kHz.
where i live, such electronic products are so unbelievably expensive, because they have to be imported from other counties, and that might not sound bad, but it increases their price by like 10x times, if not more so i really wanted to buy a mouse, but the price is absolutely killing me, so although i dream of buying these mice, i know that if one day i get absolute perfect luck, i can at least buy one, so i really do not want to hypothetically buy one and then regret it, so i really must know the best out of the bunch, this is still all very unlikely to happen anyway so i shouldn't really worry about it been 2 years since i seriously wanted a mouse, and im still trying to find a way to get one without compromising my morals, i guess im gonna wait until i can get my own job instead of working at somebody's garage, i guess ill wait another 3 years or some
what mouse would you recommend for a claw grip user with small hands (17.5x9 cm) ? i looking into the pulsar x2v2 mini but it's a little bit out of my budget. it's even better if i can find it on aliexpress since it ships to where i live. thanks
Ich favorisiere aktuell auch die Sora V2, dicht gefolgt von der Finalmouse ULX. Die Beast X ist an dritter Stelle. Informatives und qualitativ gutes Video, hast einen Follower dazu gewonnen 😊
Since Logitech cut the right side buttons, saved 3 grams and 3 $ and called that mouse pro, everyone jumped onto this train, and now there's barely a truly symmetrical model out there except the pulsar x2a and the older Logitech G1 and Razer viper ultimate. Annoying, to say the least.
dunno I used viper ultimate and now delux m800 ultra and ive enjoyed them a lot, i fingertip with three fingers on top with the pinky on the side and the thumb on the side and the shape is pretty comfortable so Im scared of changing to other mouse as I feel the shape wont fit me, maybe a fingertip will do but those are extremely expensive and my dream mouse is the optimum shorty mouse
I find it hard to flaw the DAV3 Wired. I like the weight and the wire literally never touches my pad. It's got 8k, great clicks, perfect shape and texture, great for Fingertip grip at high EDPI, the side buttons are perfect and it's not expensive. I like playing with different mouses so i don't like to say i've found my "endgame" but it's really all i need.
Great use of XLAT with an external solenoid and external switch! I know I'm not exactly impartial here, but the Finalmouse ULX would have gotten the lowest weight and the best wireless tech (best polling stability, lowest latency numbers) in your review. So unfortunate it's missing from the list.
I ordered Scyrox v8 but havent got it yet (I see a lot of people recommend it in the comments). I've seen the shape is really similar to Sora V2 while Scyrox has better sensor, has 8k dongle, is lighter and cheaper. I just wonder if build quality is on par with Sora. But I have high hopes I will like it. I just returned Superlight 2 because the shape was not comortable, but rest of the mouse is nice so I feel like I would like the Dex version but it is a little to pricy for now. I really wanted to try ergo mouse now. What would you rcommend? Waizowl is kinda ergo, Rapoo VT3 Pro Max is nice budget mouse, though it might be too big, I saw good reviews for Xtrfy M64 Pro (man I wish I bought it on Amazon Days when it was for $88, because around $120 now is pretty steep)
got the beastx mini half a year ago and it's my end game as long as it doesn't break lol. So far so good! Previously mained the viper mini, Hati-S, x2 mini, and Maya.
Got the gpx 2 years ago. In the past two months i bought the Viper mini signature editon, v3 pro, op1 8k, and beast x 8k to test them against eachother. Long story short, i returned the ones i could and went back to the gpx. Something that no one talks about is software. Logitech and razer have the best software for the games i play imo (at least the best macro support) but i think G hub is better because it doesnt need to run in the backround. Super high polling rates and sensors are pretty overrated tbh. I also shaved about 11g off the gpx while modding it and it definitly noticeable
I have a 3700x CPU and for some reason I can't even use 4k pulling rate on any game. I have 2 mice with 8k pulling, one is the Deathadder v3 I feel the stutter every so often
The difference in actual performance is so low that you can basically just ignore 4k and 8k for the most part, 2k is enough for 1600dpi to be fully saturated.
@@Vandelay666 i have the 3700x as well i play mostly overwatch and have played on a pulsar x2v2 at different polling rates of 1000 2000 4000hz mostly the cpu just cant keep up with high fps and high polling rates and also comes down to a lot game engines being very limited support for higher polling rates but you can look up the list of pros in fps games who use higher polling rate and its very low because mostly and the end of the fps drop off and game engine bugs with higher polling rate outweighs any said advantage windows also has a lot of problems with higher polling rate so i wouldnt blame the cpu 100% of time
It’s the DPI wars all over again I swear… 💀 8K polling offers literally no benefits while killing your battery faster. That half a millisecond difference ain’t gonna save your ass lil bro! 😂
I have an OP1 8k, X2V2 mini and an X2H mini and out of those I prefer the OP1 and X2V2 mini shapes the most. To me the X2H mini shape just feels awkward, not a massive fan but I know it has its fans. My X2H mini has no flexing btw but it's a solid colour. I've heard that those clear shells give up a bit of strength for looks. OP1 8k and XM2 8k have probably the best tech if you can get over the wire.
Yeah the clear X2H mini definitely has a bit more flex and it creaks more. I have a solid white X2H as well - it's less, but it still flexes and creaks compared to something like the XE-S or U2. Probably need to check out the OP1 at some point...
@@techlessYT Yeah definitely check out the OP1 8k. People who like the X2V2 mini or X2H mini shapes usually love it because it falls somewhere in between both of them. It's built extremely solid as well QC wise.
I play shooters so I use claw grip and for claw grip a thinner(less width) mouse helps with fatigue that's why the zowie u2 has been the best but the ninjutso sora v2 is just as thin while being 20g lighter so I might give that a go. The length unless it's insane it doesn't matter. The polling and latency actually matters a lot in high level fps gaming it is similar to why 240hz monitor is better than a 60hz. They even have over 500hz monitors now. If I can see you 1 or 2 frames faster than you I will shoot at you first so as long as my aim is on point I'll win the trade. So anything boosting my reaction speed is better.
Polling rate at the moment is not great 1k - 8k polling rate can cause lag because it sends too much data... this is a bit of a scam i dont even recommend , in the end its all about the grip and feel heck even a A+ Horus is enough as long as you feel nice with it..
You should do a sensor and click latency on Scyros V8, incott g23, attack shark r6, Aria 2, and compare towards big companies like razor viper v3, Logitech s newest mouse
unfortunately you haven't covered the op18k, i know i know, its a wired mouse, but give it a chance, i heard some absolutely crazy stuff about it, even though it's wired
I fell down the mouse rabbit hole and tried well over 30mice, sent most of them back but honestly companies are not brave enough anymore. Every new mouse is the same shape over and over again. Slightly bigger or smaller but overall, nothing interesting. So many mice feel exactly the same. There's like the EC clones, the G pro Clones, the XM1 clones and the Razer viper clones and they all feel the same.
my sora v2 is creakyyy more than the pulsar you showed in the video i can make it creak with just a pinky on each side with some pressure though this is after 6 months of use and the left and right click had a ton of play out of the box but other than that it is great mouse if the shape is right for you
had Viper v2... it was one of the worst mouses for me if it comes to durability... scroll stopped working properly after like 3 months and left side buttons got stuck so I cant even use them after like a year xD
U should check out the scyrox v8, it has a similar shape to the sora v2 and x2h mini and is less heavy than the sora v2, has a 3950 and its cheaper, i hope ninjutso releases a sora that one ups the scyrox v8
Look i dont have a TikTok brain but i just want a comment that tells me instantly which mouse is the best for games like,Rainbow six siege,fortnite,valorant,csgo so if anyone has good info on which mouse is good for those types of games please tell me, thank you.
Would be nice to include sensor latency too, that would be quite the undertaking though. Ali at Optimum created a pretty nice rig to go about it.
I'm a bit puzzled by your click polling rate graphs, what is Keyboard Inspector actually measuring?
Pzogel from TechPowerUP found a consistent click latency decrease with higher polling rates down to 0.4ms (on the Viper V3), wouldn't that inply a higher than 2khz polling?
Anyways, I'd highly recommend you try the newer chinese-made mice such as the ATK F1/X1, Scyrox V8, Lamzu Maya X or VXE Mad R.
All of these run on the latest CompX firmware and have basically everything you could ask for : 8khz, 3950, Nordic MCU, low latency/esports mode etc.
especially f1 tbh as the x1 shape is the same as the vv3
I also measured about 0.35ms less latency with the viper at 8K than at 4K. My guess is that the latency difference is processing related.
Thanks for the suggestions!
I always find it funny that there are some folks and pros that concetrate too much on their perpheral latency when in reality the game network latency plays a bigger factor.
In one gaming session of valorant you can get a change in ping per match for at least 5-10ms, and teammates and enemies have vastly different ping. I agree that peripheral latency doesn't really matter as long as it's decent. Everyone should just focus on their gameplay.
plus I am tired of weight and polling rates are the biggest flaws to these people. I honestly could care less and instead care about how a mouse feels for big handed people.
This is true but this would also be an additive. So if the match has really terrible ping and then you add the latency of all your peripherals. Things can get out of hand very quickly, with that being said unless you are playing at the top level it shouldn't be that big of a deal. However some of the best of the best take all gaming seriously and that is why videos like these are so helpful.
@@vagamer522if you don't care about mice than why watch a video about them lmao obviously this is meant for people who care
network vs input latency are not the same. not even on the same text book.
@@hankstorm3135 and still, both matters in a multiplayer game, there is also server processing time, there are so many latencies that are outside your control, that a 2ms faster mouse wont really make a difference between hitting a target or no (also, click to photon is also a thing, and matter WAY more than click to usb, and is dictated by mouse, usb, controller, CPU, GPU and monitor COMBINED)
if you like the claw shape , want newer tech, and less weight get the Scyrox V8
Or mad r. I prefer flatter sides so mad r comes out slightly on top
Why not the Mchose L7 Ultra?
I just stumbled upon your channel the other day and have been thoroughly enjoying all your content. Keep up the great work!
I've been using the Vaxee NP-01S Wireless for the last 1-2 years and it's been really great. The build quality and reliability have been top tier and the form factor really glues itself to my hand. Good luck all on finding your perfect mouse!
Wild stuff on AliExpress comparison and review when? ☺️
Won't be surprised if most of them actually end up being good because a lot of those companies are just the OEMs of named brands anyways.
op18k, hts plus, and maya x should be here imo, good video though very nice production
Just got the Ninjutso Sora V2 and I am very impressed. Feels great for flicking and tracking, super light, and the shape is way better than the superlight.
Thank you for this video. Hope new ninjutso sora will be perfect :)
Great video! Just wish you included the super lite 2 on the charts based on how popular it is. It now supports up to 8K polling with a firmware update as well.
Maybe it is not available in Germany at the moment
My fav mouse is easy the Lamzu Maya X 8K its the best for my preference
I feel so bad for Xtrfy because the MZ1 Wireless is such a great form and feel. The other stats are nothing to write home about but they are still great. I hardly ever see the MZ1 in anyone reviews and I really think its a hidden gem! I love mine and always see myself coming back to it. I wish they would bring an updated version of it. This way it could bring itself back into the lime light! I really love the feel, look, and estics.
MZ1 is a banger and remains my top 2nd mouse. Waiting for a MZ1 v2.
overpriced piece of crap
My m4 wireless finally died (left button switch), and I couldn’t find any decent replacement for it :(
Hi, great video! I have a quick question. I used to play with the Zowie ZA13, and I think its shape is one of the best. However, there's no wireless version of this mouse. Could you recommend a similar mouse, perhaps from Vaxee? I would really appreciate your opinion. Thanks!
Wireless ZA13 is coming soon :) It should be great mouse since Zowie improved already with U2. The price will be high as always though but if you know you love it just get the real one 👍
Curious where you found the software at 8:30. My OGM V2 software looks completely different
Let me tell you. You should try out the Scyrox V8. It's like a mix of the X2H mini and Sora V2. Also pretty affordable. Such a great mouse. (I have both the X2H mini and Sora V2 for reference).
Great video! What do you think about the tryhrd oni s wireless?
8K polling is pure scam in my opinion. Majory of the users will not be able to keep apart 1K vs 4K vs 8K. It's insane that mice on 99USD called budget nower days. Ansonsten super Content, mach weiter so
finally somieone is talking about 8k sensors and 8k clicks... THANK YOU THIS TOPIC IS SO UNDERRATED.
No one cares lol , makes 0 difference
Could you make a video about competitive iems?
If you really liked the x2h mini, maybe you should try the Scyrox V8! Its an X2H Mini with the weight if the Sora V2
lamzu maya x is literally endgame nobody is giving it the attention it deserves please be the first
never see the Arbiter Akitsu on these types of videos... such an underrated mouse
3395 and 3950 sensor is a very minimal difference, compared to sensor changes in the past
also unless you are playing on an extremely high end pc and monitor (300+ fps) theres really no point to 4k or 8k polling
it may give you a "smoother" feel... but the power consumption isnt worth a placebo feeling.
only things that truly matter when picking a mouse are:
- shape
- switch implementation
- skates
- coating
dont feel fomo for a new sensor or polling if you love the shape of your mouse or when looking to buy a new one! these things matter way more.
Playing valorant without agent voice-overs is a war crime.
Doesn't Razer use Motion Sync which only "polls" when thered an update? In that case it's not unstable but rather you aren't moving thr mouse fast enough to require 8kHZ instead of, for example, 7.5kHz.
just for ur fyi spoked with numerous pro players of diff games . None can feel diff between 1k and 4k pooling rate
OGM Pro is the one that made me sell my GPX. I rather have 6 more grams than mushy side buttons. Now I'm using Viper V3
Would have been great if ATK Gear was Included. Easily tops few of them in vid
Never ceases to impress me how the mouse weight its a point to consider like damn, is not like we are moving bricks or something lol.
So you like x2h shape, lightweight and 8k? Zyrox v8 is waving
where i live, such electronic products are so unbelievably expensive, because they have to be imported from other counties, and that might not sound bad, but it increases their price by like 10x times, if not more
so i really wanted to buy a mouse, but the price is absolutely killing me, so although i dream of buying these mice, i know that if one day i get absolute perfect luck, i can at least buy one, so i really do not want to hypothetically buy one and then regret it, so i really must know the best out of the bunch, this is still all very unlikely to happen anyway so i shouldn't really worry about it
been 2 years since i seriously wanted a mouse, and im still trying to find a way to get one without compromising my morals, i guess im gonna wait until i can get my own job instead of working at somebody's garage, i guess ill wait another 3 years or some
what mouse would you recommend for a claw grip user with small hands (17.5x9 cm) ? i looking into the pulsar x2v2 mini but it's a little bit out of my budget. it's even better if i can find it on aliexpress since it ships to where i live. thanks
Thanks for the video. I got the X2H Mini
Ich favorisiere aktuell auch die Sora V2, dicht gefolgt von der Finalmouse ULX. Die Beast X ist an dritter Stelle.
Informatives und qualitativ gutes Video, hast einen Follower dazu gewonnen 😊
Guys which mouse should I buy as someone who loves the classic MX518? (big hand)
Since Logitech cut the right side buttons, saved 3 grams and 3 $ and called that mouse pro, everyone jumped onto this train, and now there's barely a truly symmetrical model out there except the pulsar x2a and the older Logitech G1 and Razer viper ultimate. Annoying, to say the least.
dunno I used viper ultimate and now delux m800 ultra and ive enjoyed them a lot, i fingertip with three fingers on top with the pinky on the side and the thumb on the side and the shape is pretty comfortable so Im scared of changing to other mouse as I feel the shape wont fit me, maybe a fingertip will do but those are extremely expensive and my dream mouse is the optimum shorty mouse
what program do you use to test the polling rate stability on a mouse?
I find it hard to flaw the DAV3 Wired. I like the weight and the wire literally never touches my pad. It's got 8k, great clicks, perfect shape and texture, great for Fingertip grip at high EDPI, the side buttons are perfect and it's not expensive. I like playing with different mouses so i don't like to say i've found my "endgame" but it's really all i need.
where OP1 8K?
That’s a wired mouse bro
Isn't that wired?
I have a Steelseries Aerox 9 Wireless. It's light, has more buttons than I'll ever need, and it charges maybe once a week.
Both of my X2H Mini and X2V2 mini has no creaking, but my Sora V2 does creak a little bit, must be QC issue.
Great use of XLAT with an external solenoid and external switch!
I know I'm not exactly impartial here, but the Finalmouse ULX would have gotten the lowest weight and the best wireless tech (best polling stability, lowest latency numbers) in your review. So unfortunate it's missing from the list.
I ordered Scyrox v8 but havent got it yet (I see a lot of people recommend it in the comments). I've seen the shape is really similar to Sora V2 while Scyrox has better sensor, has 8k dongle, is lighter and cheaper. I just wonder if build quality is on par with Sora. But I have high hopes I will like it. I just returned Superlight 2 because the shape was not comortable, but rest of the mouse is nice so I feel like I would like the Dex version but it is a little to pricy for now.
I really wanted to try ergo mouse now. What would you rcommend? Waizowl is kinda ergo, Rapoo VT3 Pro Max is nice budget mouse, though it might be too big, I saw good reviews for Xtrfy M64 Pro (man I wish I bought it on Amazon Days when it was for $88, because around $120 now is pretty steep)
Currently using the Fnatic Lamzu Maya 8K
Wonder where that would stack up on your list.
got the beastx mini half a year ago and it's my end game as long as it doesn't break lol. So far so good! Previously mained the viper mini, Hati-S, x2 mini, and Maya.
Definitely wanna hear your thoughts on the mad r major and the scyrox v8. Would like to see their latency numbers compared to the sora v2
Is the polling rate effective click latency ?
I switched recently from the super light to the sora v2 and it is great
In the end shape is king xD
you can use the scyrox v8 which is 8khz out of the box with a 3950 and really good sensor implementation.
Don't call it 3950; call it "Razer's latest hand-me-down".
@@ThinkingFaces what does that even mean LOL
Got the gpx 2 years ago. In the past two months i bought the Viper mini signature editon, v3 pro, op1 8k, and beast x 8k to test them against eachother. Long story short, i returned the ones i could and went back to the gpx. Something that no one talks about is software. Logitech and razer have the best software for the games i play imo (at least the best macro support) but i think G hub is better because it doesnt need to run in the backround. Super high polling rates and sensors are pretty overrated tbh. I also shaved about 11g off the gpx while modding it and it definitly noticeable
the sora has almost no button cradling deal breaker
I really love my Beast X Max. I'm excited for their new mouse since it looks more similar in shape to my XM2. That might be my endgame.
Polycarbonate diff, is just a lightweight and harder material, abs is more softer
+1 for checking out the Scyrox V8
i fw your videos heavy
it shouldve been the scyrox v8 and the mad r since they are so hyped up rn
I have a 3700x CPU and for some reason I can't even use 4k pulling rate on any game. I have 2 mice with 8k pulling, one is the Deathadder v3 I feel the stutter every so often
The difference in actual performance is so low that you can basically just ignore 4k and 8k for the most part, 2k is enough for 1600dpi to be fully saturated.
@@kaimuu Yeah I know it's nothing. I'm fine with 1k. Was just wondering if someone else had that issue
@@Vandelay666 i have the 3700x as well i play mostly overwatch and have played on a pulsar x2v2 at different polling rates of 1000 2000 4000hz mostly the cpu just cant keep up with high fps and high polling rates and also comes down to a lot game engines being very limited support for higher polling rates but you can look up the list of pros in fps games who use higher polling rate and its very low because mostly and the end of the fps drop off and game engine bugs with higher polling rate outweighs any said advantage windows also has a lot of problems with higher polling rate so i wouldnt blame the cpu 100% of time
@@Vandelay666 sometimes it's also the game because before I ran apex using dx12 it would skip and stutter whenever I used 4k
It’s the DPI wars all over again I swear… 💀
8K polling offers literally no benefits while killing your battery faster.
That half a millisecond difference ain’t gonna save your ass lil bro! 😂
And often the 8KHz polling doesn't activate until the mouse if flicked around by a korean Starcraft player, or you're having a seizure. 😚
Also need to buy a dongle to actually use 8khz which is sold separately most of the time
Exactly, like guys give me a break with 8k polling, give me a break with 4k polling.... 1-2k is just fine.
Yeah it's also the peak and not maintained 8k
@@ArdaSReal Even if it's stable 8k polling, it's just going to be eating your CPU power and nobody wants that in a competitive shooter.
Scyrox V8 is Sora shape, 3950, great coating, 8k hz. Also op18k you might like as similar shape and best performance on the market
no its x2h mini shape
That 40 must feel like air compared to my 120 mouse.
My Razer Mamba TE is kicking off looking for his successor
I have it a little easier to pick mice, as I can't do with less than 8 or so thumb buttons. 😅 (still on the ancient Logitech G600)
Can you do more videos like this with more gaming mice please?
I have an OP1 8k, X2V2 mini and an X2H mini and out of those I prefer the OP1 and X2V2 mini shapes the most. To me the X2H mini shape just feels awkward, not a massive fan but I know it has its fans. My X2H mini has no flexing btw but it's a solid colour. I've heard that those clear shells give up a bit of strength for looks.
OP1 8k and XM2 8k have probably the best tech if you can get over the wire.
Yeah the clear X2H mini definitely has a bit more flex and it creaks more. I have a solid white X2H as well - it's less, but it still flexes and creaks compared to something like the XE-S or U2. Probably need to check out the OP1 at some point...
@@techlessYT Yeah definitely check out the OP1 8k. People who like the X2V2 mini or X2H mini shapes usually love it because it falls somewhere in between both of them. It's built extremely solid as well QC wise.
Best 1080p 24 inch monitor under 300€?
Scyrox v8 or vxe mad r are both 36-40g and include 8k dongle for ~$70
After trying the hsk pro I haven't looked back for gaming lol. Took a bit of getting used to but everything else feels sluggish and gigantic now
Put glass skates on the death adder and now feels like 20g 😮
you forgot the king: WL BeastX
i just want a mouse that lasts more than 2 years without double clicking or scroll wheel going the opposite way
I play shooters so I use claw grip and for claw grip a thinner(less width) mouse helps with fatigue that's why the zowie u2 has been the best but the ninjutso sora v2 is just as thin while being 20g lighter so I might give that a go. The length unless it's insane it doesn't matter. The polling and latency actually matters a lot in high level fps gaming it is similar to why 240hz monitor is better than a 60hz. They even have over 500hz monitors now. If I can see you 1 or 2 frames faster than you I will shoot at you first so as long as my aim is on point I'll win the trade. So anything boosting my reaction speed is better.
I mean how is Endgame op1 8k not in your endgame list? 🤣
Where is the WLmouse beast x max ???
Polling rate at the moment is not great 1k - 8k polling rate can cause lag because it sends too much data... this is a bit of a scam i dont even recommend , in the end its all about the grip and feel heck even a A+ Horus is enough as long as you feel nice with it..
You should do a sensor and click latency on Scyros V8, incott g23, attack shark r6, Aria 2, and compare towards big companies like razor viper v3, Logitech s newest mouse
Hitscan Hyperlight review when please?
I still play pest with the og viper mini. I would like to try a viper v3 pro mininof they ever made one
Attack Shark R2??
unfortunately you haven't covered the op18k, i know i know, its a wired mouse, but give it a chance, i heard some absolutely crazy stuff about it, even though it's wired
What's your hand size ?
18 x 10 cm
why dont you make a video of mouse tier list
I fell down the mouse rabbit hole and tried well over 30mice, sent most of them back but honestly companies are not brave enough anymore. Every new mouse is the same shape over and over again. Slightly bigger or smaller but overall, nothing interesting. So many mice feel exactly the same. There's like the EC clones, the G pro Clones, the XM1 clones and the Razer viper clones and they all feel the same.
my sora v2 is creakyyy more than the pulsar you showed in the video i can make it creak with just a pinky on each side with some pressure though this is after 6 months of use and the left and right click had a ton of play out of the box but other than that it is great mouse if the shape is right for you
had Viper v2... it was one of the worst mouses for me if it comes to durability... scroll stopped working properly after like 3 months and left side buttons got stuck so I cant even use them after like a year xD
U should check out the scyrox v8, it has a similar shape to the sora v2 and x2h mini and is less heavy than the sora v2, has a 3950 and its cheaper, i hope ninjutso releases a sora that one ups the scyrox v8
I feel like a Lamzu mouse is missing, i personnaly love my Lamzu Thorn and i think either thorn or maya wouldve been a good mouse to show in this.
impossible to find someone without affiliate links
yo this guys cracked at val
You should review the lamzu maya x
Look i dont have a TikTok brain but i just want a comment that tells me instantly which mouse is the best for games like,Rainbow six siege,fortnite,valorant,csgo so if anyone has good info on which mouse is good for those types of games please tell me, thank you.
Nothing above 1kHz gives any benefits. Quite the opposite actually - it kills the battery faster.
My go g502x lightspeed trains my bicep and goes brr, goated
i hate razer sensor feels too fast
Your favourite 24 inch monitor?
fuck the new small and light mice trend i just want a mouse that fits my hands.
100+ gram is not heavy
now compare sora v2 with vxe r1 pro for its value and vxe mad r major for its value at endgame specs
Why do you always squeeze mice, is it an expander or a mouse or an expander or a mouse...)) Decide if you are in the right sport)
plz review attack shark x3
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When is there going to be reviews by people who actually know what they are talking about? Weight does not impact gaming performance IN THE SLIGHTEST