@@andonemorething3713 John Carter that one Disney's biggest flop is not woke. On average he had more consecutive flops in the 80s than today, there was no "woke" there either. But since you idiots turned that word into a buzzword with no real meaning anymore.
It’s not just prequel, sequel, reboot and remake. It’s also being “lectured to,” “admonished” and having someone else’s “Political Viewpoint,” and their concepts of “Social Justice” crammed down our throats.
Never understood why John Carter flopped. It was a nice Movie IMO. First Place is fully deserved. Walked out of the Cinema after 20 Minutes. Disneys Downfall continues and everybody knows why.
John Carter flopped cause it cost 300 million just to produce so marketing would have their budget close to 450 million or even more. It was a good movie just couldn’t make back the money. This video just takes into account loss but doesn’t say how much money they made.
@@ibrakadabra9073 Everyone who had read Edgar Rice Burroughs “Warrior of Mars” (🙋🏻♂️) series definitely enjoyed John Carter. They took the first three novels of the series and turned it into a movie.
@@ignaciofuentes2642 Another Mars movie flopped just as they were about to kick off their marketing push (Mars Needs Moms, maybe? I don't remember which now) and the rumor is an executive wanted the "of Mars" part scrubbed from the original title "John Carter of Mars" because he didn't want it to be connected to the other. Another rumor was that some "market research" returned that the name was corny as in some "Killer Werewolves OF MARS!" vibes. Either way, the whole marketing campaign, the title art, the posters, everything was scrapped in order to be re-worked in a very abbreviated timeframe and the limits imposed by the studio really cramped what they could say or show.
Notice how most of them are recent movies. I think Disney forgot that people watch movies for escapism and to be entertained, not to get spoon fed agendas and lectured in politics. They deserve to collapse in on themselves for putting their BS in front of what the fans want.
It's less of an agenda and more of them not understanding what actually makes diversity good. Plenty of diverse films receive universal praise, but only because their stories and characters are well-written. Just look at The Princess and the Frog, their last hand-drawn film. Diverse cast, good movie. Not a masterpiece, but good. Zootopia had diversity AND an agenda, but it had a good story with good characters (antagonist, not so much). Once they fill in the second half of the equation, they'll be back on top.
@@jeffreyriley8742 That’s the excuse they use. But what about the ones clearly bombing before and after that? What about the movies from other companies that didn’t bomb during the same time frame?
That’s inflation for you. If the list was adjusted for inflation it’d be quite different. The fact that Cutthroat Island was made in ’95 and still made the list tells how bad it bombed. Likewise The Postman…
What really surprised me is the number of films that lost over 100 million that I have never even heard about… Which basically means they bombed so bad in the US that international distribution was cut short.
Yeah I loved Battleship. The plot was simplistic, but it was a visual feast and just all-around fun. Shame it came out around the same time as The Avengers, you really can't compete with that :/
@@WillMuny Ok, a bit sad if you have to ask, but I can give you some hints, I can only say for myself, though. Titan A.E., Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within and Blade Runner 2049 are some of the best sci-fi movies Ive seen, The Wolfman, Cutthroat Island and Tenet are very good movies, each of them gives you something unique, and John Carter, The Matrix Resurrections, Terminator: Dark Fate, Sahara, The Mummy and 47 Ronin are quite ok, harmless to watch on a sunday afternoon. All of these should have grossed more imo, but oh well, as I said, not for everyone.
I would suggest to the creator of this video that they add the “year” of the film since some of these are remakes of great films that were NOT flops when they came out. West Side Story, originally made in 1961 was likely not a flop, and should never have been remade.
With all the "black" films coming out the last few years. Hollywood thought it would be generous of them to throw a bone to the Latin community with the West Side Story remake.
Never would expect The Lone Ranger to perform badly money wise despite how much I loved it. Depp's great acting and the train chase scene while Hans Zimmer's composition of the Overture Final playing was just incredible! It influenced my own sister who will probably for the rest of life call me "kemosabe" just for laughs hahah!
Personally, I think it was a little off in tone. Both for JD and AH. It was more Tonto's story. A lot of script are how can clowns and buffons end up heros. Sometimes it's charming and funny, and sometimes it's just off the mark. Wasn't there an mgm guy Thornburg (?), who did resorts where target audiences gave bad reactions to prerelease testing? Might want to do that if you can find another ... Thornburg.
How you gunna get people to understand the slow pace of mystery of noire in wartorn cyberpunk world when everyone is into instant gratification? “Clip over 2 mins, movie sucks” mentality. Really just a reflection of the world you live in, not a movie flop.
Makes me quite happy to see Ghostbusters (2016), Cats, Fantastic Four (2015), Transformers: The Last Knight, Dark Phoenix, Space Jam: A New Legacy, Terminator: Dark Fate, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, The Flash, and The Marvels on here 😂 But sad to see Blade Runner 2049 on here. That movie’s a masterpiece ❤️
Even from just looking at these titles and not having seen them, they'd come off as obvious flops! The world doesn't need these franchises beaten into the ground.
@trv actually The Little mermaid did flop. Disney spent 300 million on the film and movies need to make 2.5 times what they spent to get a profit. The little mermaid generated 600 million so they didn't make a profit.
A few of these are really good Treasure Planet, Blade Runner 2049, Hugo, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Some are guilty pleasures like Sahara, Stealth, Speed Racer. Such a shame
@@elijahwilliams3728 $240m budget + $100-120m marketing = $340-360m + $190m cuts taken by theatres = $630-650m break even point approx $630-650m - $570m box office = $60-80m loss And that's with the numbers that we know and being generous. It lost far more than they want to admit.
I think films like 'Titan A.E.' were in this awkward stage of being right before 'animated' films were just drawn with CGI-technology and were actually hand-drawn. So they really were expensive, but because of Di$ney's dominating back then, hardly any traditionally animated films hardly stood a chance because there was no easy market.
Keep in mind when you search up a movie's budget, it only shows how much money they spent making the movie but it doesn't show the marketing and distribution prices.
An animated movie can lose over $100 million due to high production and marketing costs combined with disappointing box office performance. If the film fails to attract a large audience or faces strong competition, it might not recover its investment. Shifts in audience preferences and the impact of streaming services can further contribute to these losses.
I agree. I knew a few I liked weren't great movies or would win an Oscar but they were fun and entertaining. Didn't know they did THAT badly at the box office.
I was very happy to see that the movie with Bree Larson topped the list. She became a self entitled Diva after a bit of success following the first Captain Marvel movie. After this train wreck her career took a huge nosedive.😊
Gotta give her credit for Room. She won an oscar for that role and it's a very good movie. Unfortunately the rest is history but I will always have a soft spot for that film. It proves she is a great actress... or atleast she was
Gotta give her credit for Room. She won an oscar for that role and it's a very good movie. Unfortunately the rest is history but I will always have a soft spot for that film. It proves she is a great actress... or atleast she was
Alright, I'll stand up as a target for ridicule. I liked Hugo a lot, I enjoyed John Carter, and I thought Mortal Engines was an avenue worth exploring. Let the arrows fly. ✌
They were still flops, losing vast amounts of money. Personally, I enjoyed Valerian, Speed Racer, Final Fantasy, Black Adam, Titan A.E., Cutthroat Island, Haunted Mansion, and The Marvels, but they were still flops.
I still remember when Waterworld was considered the definition of a box office flop. Now it can't even crack the top 80. (Granted, I think it eventually made enough to get out of the red)
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It’s not that these movies didn’t make a ton of money at theaters. The biggest reason they flopped is because they cost too much to make. If your movie generates $200 million but cost $300 million to make, you need to work on lowering your budget. You’re spending too much money paying big name actors and special effects.
Some of these definitely earned their losses, but there were some others that were actually at least decent films to watch. And of course, there were films like Tenet that only really got on here because of when it was released. I feel like that movie would have had more success if not for being released in the middle of a pandemic.
Could've made 40-50 fully creative, studio-uninvolved indie films for The Marvel's budget, which has a way higher chance of success, but whatever, their loss.
Something to mention: The budget for "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" was much lower than that for "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" but "Star Trek II" was a much more entertaining movie. I think its because they focused more on telling a great story.
I love the scene where they got him tied down and all those old guys in suits are like giving him a trial or something, then he turns into the wolfman and starts eating them ... and they can't get out 💀
The scene where they push the bubble gum machine over & fire up the engines of the mighty Missouri is the Best! “Thunderstuck” blasting out too-gave me goosebumps. 🔥
I love how most of them are very recent, to show how big movie companies like Disney have a very different vision about movie production than their costumers. Movies aren't for mass production. Every single time they try it, they failed. There is no big franchises, big actors, big directors and big budgets that can save a objective bad movie. It never worked, it won't work now. Movies are art, not a product to quickly consume.
3:52 #30 was the bomb that put Carolco Pictures out of business. They produced the first three Rambo movies, Terminator 2, and Basic Instinct, but Cutthroat Island wiped them out.
Hey, I have an idea for a movie: let’s take a once-beloved IP, hire 37 screenwriters to write witty, anachronistic, Wheedon-jabber, change the gender/color/persuasion of some characters, do 90% of the scenes on green screen so the actors aren’t ever in the same room, throw in a bunch of CGI so that the whole thing is just this shy of animation, toss in a major heaping of “the message” and add 23 associate producers who probably run the Israeli mafia. My only question: Why has this not been tried before?
When I was a kid in the 1950s old movies were syndicated on television under the title "Million Dollar Movie", which suggested a massive budget. Now...
Yes. It's a shame. Mind you, it was a lot to get your head around. I saw it three times in the cinema, which is how long it took me to work out the time-lines.
I liked Good Dinosaur too. I don't see why it is so despised (but then again, I don't see why Monsters University is so despised when that movie is by and far my favorite Pixar film). It has a solid story and a good ending.
No creativity, too many remakes of remakes, boring concepts, PC crap, Woke crap, “Strong Female blah, blah, blah, billions wasted on very bad ideas. F Hollywood.
I agree. Keep the culture wars talking points out of our favourite franchises. We can get plenty of it from social media, mainstream media, politicians, college campuses, and now department stores.
There's nothing wrong with a strong female lead, but Hollyweird is clueless how to make movies with one now. Movies like Alien or Kill Bill are perfect examples of how to do it right.
There are flops from people not going to the theater to see the movie, and there are flops from people not liking the movie. The Suicide Squad was a financial flop because people didn't go see the movie in theaters because of covid scares, but people love The Suicide Squad movie. It was a fan success.💯
I just watched it and thought it was TERRIBLE. The casting is AWFUL. No chemistry between the two, and Cara Delvigne is just genuinely unlikable. Perma resting bitch face. Not a feminine bone in her body
The title repelled me. WTF is "City of a Thousand Planets" supposed to mean? These morons made a mix of "L'Empire des mille planètes" and "La Cité des eaux mouvantes"
I heard of every single one but did not see most of them. There's just not an audience for many of these movies so how do the producers think they'll make their money. Also, with so many flops, where's the professional know how? The writers, producers, directors, and actors are supposed know what they're doing. The lay person shouldn't have to point out the errors of their ways.
When a movie earns it's budget back it still has to earn money to cover the cost of the promotion it received. The new "Twister" cost $200M to make and had to gross at least $380M to cover. It came close but was considered a flop. Titan A.E. I love that movie, it's so underrated. There are a few on the list that I thought were good but flipped.
I think one of the problems with movies today is that the company thinks if they put millions and millions of dollars in a movie, it will bring people in to watch. Which is not always the case. Sometimes, it is not how much money you put in the movie, but the quality and the casting of the movie. I have seen many times that low-budget movies make hundreds of millions of dollars simply because it was a good quality movie.
What i don't get is how animated movies cost so much to lose so much in the first place, there's no actors with huge fees, live locations or sets or stunts etc.
big name actors get paid for voice work in animated movies so they still are a factor. the power bill for the massive number of computers to render the cgi makes the animation itself costly.
2:50 The Alamo - Efren Ramirez (Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite) had the option to take part in The Alamo (2004) which had big stars in it. That could be a big break for him. This however would have a conflicting schedule with the then unknown indie film Napoleon Dynamite in where he also got a role. He still chose Napoleon Dynamite and he got let go by his manager because of that choice. Napoleon Dynamite with a budget of only 400k USD, profited more than 100x its original budget (46 million USD)
Odd thing is is a lot of these films are good but toxic news stopped people seeing them or they came out at same time as a huge hit, but some are just really bad
A masterpiece! It should also be noted that it was a fail,at first but later recouped there loses for instance Rise of the Guardians loses were likely overestmated+in only two years DVD sales ALONE made 200 million firmly placing it in the red(not even counting merch sales).
I find it pretty funny that of all those listed, a fair number of them were ones I enjoyed. I'll wager that all the critics crapped all over them. Which is why I always watch them and usually find them quite enjoyable.
Sad about TENET and Blade Runner, those are good films. Time messing and Cyberpunkness are rarely profitable but highly appreciated by... maybe HR Giger fans and some weirdos like me 😅
Love how for most of the first 60 or so entries I'm like: "Oh, that lost money? That sucks." or "that movie wasn't too bad though." And then you get to 20 and after and you're like "Yup, makes complete sense." or "That lost money? Good!"
It should also be noted that some of these films were Bombs but later recouped there loses for instance Rise of the Guardians loses were likely overestmated+in only two years DVD sales ALONE made 200 million firmly placing it in the red(not even counting merch sales). Valerian/Battleship/Last Knight(Especially thanks to tax cuts and product placement)/Tenet/XXX/Solo apperently manadged to recoup its budget thanks to secondary revenue as well so in hindisght they were more of dissapointments rather then bonaifed fails.
Ok... I'm half way thru the video, and I feel like the only way some of these movies lost that much money is if they literally made $0 at the box office or had insane marketing campaigns but barely sold any tickets... Or... they're just stealing money and claiming these movies cost 10x more than they actually did.
@@chalkandcheese1868 So the whole movie was ruined because of the main actor? I think you might have another issue, that has little to do with the movie.
There were actually some good movies in there, especially lower costing half of the financial flops. Maybe the best trick Hollywood is producing in the modern era is cooking the books with so much financial "loss" that they get out of paying their fair share of taxes.
Not every movie on here was a bad movie. Some were actually fantastic movies they just didn’t make the money they needed to and weren’t appreciated at the time.
Joker 2 will be joining the list soon
I don't think it cost that much to make.
Neither movie is a "joker" movie but a look into mental disorder
@@giovannyc3886 Guess what almost every Batman villain has
@@TheGingiGamer 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Arthur Fleck dies The End
@@giovannyc3886 Marketing is where it lost a lot
@giovannyc3886 it actually costed $200 million just on production without taking into account the amount for advertising & splitting with theaters🥴
It's not an accident that all these lazy remakes and re-boots were flops made within the last 10 years
Hollywood has fallen off, in a big way
I think a lot of these companies make trash movies on purpose, so they can have a massive tax write off.
the biggest successes of recent years are other sequels and reboots
@@destroyerzilla7634 It's all junk.
Lack of originality among "other" things.
Yeah that. Also the fact Hollywood is super WOKE
Well, Disney dominated the top of the charts….
Not surprising. Disney owns the damn world.
Trying to be "woke" and "progressive" is backfiring, thank God.
The flop charts
@@andonemorething3713 John Carter that one Disney's biggest flop is not woke.
On average he had more consecutive flops in the 80s than today, there was no "woke" there either.
But since you idiots turned that word into a buzzword with no real meaning anymore.
Disney also dominates the biggest hits
Yeaaah!!! Give it up for the Marvels! They’re number one!!!!
Number 1 of bad.
It will likely be surpassed by Snow White next year.
Even though it was number one…it is still a big steamy pile of number 2!
Yep, because Hollywood does not know how to write female characters anymore.
@@arcticphoenix2789 still better than battle shonen female characters that are just for fanservice
Prequel, sequel, reboot, remake. That's the problem.
Absence of originalty
No, the problem is that most people don't go to see original movies, so when a movie does hit, Hollywood milks that property dry until it fails.
And people with no business acting. There was a time when movies would flop and you never saw the actor/actress again for a very long time.
It’s not just prequel, sequel, reboot and remake. It’s also being “lectured to,” “admonished” and having someone else’s “Political Viewpoint,” and their concepts of “Social Justice” crammed down our throats.
@@williampaz2092 It's always been that way, the only difference is that you can feel better about yourself by whining.
Personally I liked The man from UNCLE and Bladerunner 2049
And Sahara. Fun movies.
Bladerunner 2049 had fantastic performances.
It seems like Blade Runner movies are doomed to be cult Classics. They're making a THIRD, btw.
Wolfman was good too
"UNCLE" had a good 'lock' on the 1960's theme!
@@jwayk9750 "Sahara" had a more original plot than most films, today!
Never understood why John Carter flopped. It was a nice Movie IMO.
First Place is fully deserved. Walked out of the Cinema after 20 Minutes.
Disneys Downfall continues and everybody knows why.
John Carter flopped cause it cost 300 million just to produce so marketing would have their budget close to 450 million or even more. It was a good movie just couldn’t make back the money. This video just takes into account loss but doesn’t say how much money they made.
The title and marketing didn't help. Nobody knew what the heck the movie was about.
@@ibrakadabra9073 Everyone who had read Edgar Rice Burroughs “Warrior of Mars” (🙋🏻♂️) series definitely enjoyed John Carter. They took the first three novels of the series and turned it into a movie.
Where does all the money go I think there's some money laundering going on Or studios looking for a tax write off
@@ignaciofuentes2642 Another Mars movie flopped just as they were about to kick off their marketing push (Mars Needs Moms, maybe? I don't remember which now) and the rumor is an executive wanted the "of Mars" part scrubbed from the original title "John Carter of Mars" because he didn't want it to be connected to the other. Another rumor was that some "market research" returned that the name was corny as in some "Killer Werewolves OF MARS!" vibes. Either way, the whole marketing campaign, the title art, the posters, everything was scrapped in order to be re-worked in a very abbreviated timeframe and the limits imposed by the studio really cramped what they could say or show.
Notice how most of them are recent movies. I think Disney forgot that people watch movies for escapism and to be entertained, not to get spoon fed agendas and lectured in politics. They deserve to collapse in on themselves for putting their BS in front of what the fans want.
It's less of an agenda and more of them not understanding what actually makes diversity good. Plenty of diverse films receive universal praise, but only because their stories and characters are well-written.
Just look at The Princess and the Frog, their last hand-drawn film. Diverse cast, good movie. Not a masterpiece, but good. Zootopia had diversity AND an agenda, but it had a good story with good characters (antagonist, not so much). Once they fill in the second half of the equation, they'll be back on top.
Several of them are also COVID movies.
@@jeffreyriley8742 That’s the excuse they use. But what about the ones clearly bombing before and after that? What about the movies from other companies that didn’t bomb during the same time frame?
That’s inflation for you. If the list was adjusted for inflation it’d be quite different.
The fact that Cutthroat Island was made in ’95 and still made the list tells how bad it bombed. Likewise The Postman…
What really surprised me is the number of films that lost over 100 million that I have never even heard about…
Which basically means they bombed so bad in the US that international distribution was cut short.
Some of these movies where actually good
💯💯💯💯
Yup, I'm suspect it got something to do with bad timing and marketing.
Yeah I loved Battleship. The plot was simplistic, but it was a visual feast and just all-around fun. Shame it came out around the same time as The Avengers, you really can't compete with that :/
The ones at the beginning of the list
Terrible marketing
Treasure Planet was great.
Yea it was
I agree
That one... My boys... Is a movie that REALLY deserves a good live-action adaptation
Beautiful and astonishing effects movie!
its about flops, not if people liked or not, and it flopped
LeBron is use to flopping
Like this more, fellas.
And cheek slapping.
Just gonna put this out there, but Space Jam (1996)
$80 million budget
$230 million worldwide gross
@@RyanRussell-h6m Why does LeBron insist on challenging Michael Jordan’s legacy? Does he REALLY think that much of himself?
Flop king indeed.😂😂😂
Some of these are really good movies, just not for wide audience.
Like which ones?
Treasure planet
Titan A.E. is a classic, in my opinion.
@@WillMuny Ok, a bit sad if you have to ask, but I can give you some hints, I can only say for myself, though. Titan A.E., Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within and Blade Runner 2049 are some of the best sci-fi movies Ive seen, The Wolfman, Cutthroat Island and Tenet are very good movies, each of them gives you something unique, and John Carter, The Matrix Resurrections, Terminator: Dark Fate, Sahara, The Mummy and 47 Ronin are quite ok, harmless to watch on a sunday afternoon. All of these should have grossed more imo, but oh well, as I said, not for everyone.
Blade Runner 2049 is gripping, thought-provoking and cinematic. A real immersion into dystopia. But it's just too slow. Shame.
I liked John carter
Jungle cruise and Valerian arent that bad, too
Virginia!
Rise of guardians was pretty good as well imho.
As did I. Of course I read all of the books and loved them.
John Carter needed to go Rated R and characters be a bit dirty
I would suggest to the creator of this video that they add the “year” of the film since some of these are remakes of great films that were NOT flops when they came out. West Side Story, originally made in 1961 was likely not a flop, and should never have been remade.
With all the "black" films coming out the last few years. Hollywood thought it would be generous of them to throw a bone to the Latin community with the West Side Story remake.
The Mummy was on this list. I thought it was a box office hit was there a remake they are referring to?
@@jrclem79I think it’s the shitty Tom Cruise version that’s on here. The Brendan Frazer one was a big hit.
@@nickgodfrey1148100% correct. It's that trash ass, terrible Tom Cruise one 😂😂
@@KingGogh Yeah it was absolute shit. Probably a big blow to little Tom’s ego. 😁
Can't wait for Zeggy's Snow White!
Unless it goes straight to D+, I don't think it will be released anytime soon. Or at all. Hopefully.
Weird? Weird!😂
Her version of WEST SIDE STORY lost $100 million.
@@insertnamehere5809 The Shazam movie she was in lost $122 million.
I still remember Jay Leno’s “LoneRanger” joke: He took off his mask, looked at the camera and said “Who cares, no one’s watching anyway” 😄
Never would expect The Lone Ranger to perform badly money wise despite how much I loved it. Depp's great acting and the train chase scene while Hans Zimmer's composition of the Overture Final playing was just incredible! It influenced my own sister who will probably for the rest of life call me "kemosabe" just for laughs hahah!
Personally, I think it was a little off in tone. Both for JD and AH. It was more Tonto's story.
A lot of script are how can clowns and buffons end up heros. Sometimes it's charming and funny, and sometimes it's just off the mark.
Wasn't there an mgm guy Thornburg (?), who did resorts where target audiences gave bad reactions to prerelease testing? Might want to do that if you can find another ... Thornburg.
Blade Runner 2049 was a *FLOP!????*
WTF 👀
How you gunna get people to understand the slow pace of mystery of noire in wartorn cyberpunk world when everyone is into instant gratification? “Clip over 2 mins, movie sucks” mentality. Really just a reflection of the world you live in, not a movie flop.
The original "Blade Runner" was considered a flop at the time of its release. Over time it grew in popularity and it was enough to get a sequel made.
Blade Runner 2049 is just great in my humble opinion
@@davidkatsmam It cost to much to make, so it lost money but it was not a bad film.
@ True. I really like that movie thou….
Makes me quite happy to see Ghostbusters (2016), Cats, Fantastic Four (2015), Transformers: The Last Knight, Dark Phoenix, Space Jam: A New Legacy, Terminator: Dark Fate, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, The Flash, and The Marvels on here 😂
But sad to see Blade Runner 2049 on here. That movie’s a masterpiece ❤️
Even from just looking at these titles and not having seen them, they'd come off as obvious flops! The world doesn't need these franchises beaten into the ground.
Marvels not so marvelous!
Ban woke!
@@piloto88ed if they keep going the way they are going, they'll go bankrupt before we get a chance to ban em.
i was expecting to see she hulk on here but i guess the cgi only cost 50 bucks so i could not lose much
Lot of Disney fails, obviously.
and many great successes are always Disney
@@destroyerzilla7634Stop you are trying to make sense! 😊😉 Lots of agenda people here and they are all tired
Wokisney? i pray for tehir bankrupt.
When you realize Little Mermaid didn't flop....😂
@trv actually The Little mermaid did flop. Disney spent 300 million on the film and movies need to make 2.5 times what they spent to get a profit. The little mermaid generated 600 million so they didn't make a profit.
Now, I liked ''John Carter'' and ''Battleship''.
There are some good movies on the list, but a fail at the box office at theatre. Nice on DVD.
Some of these movies I do like but I noticed the ones that did badly are the Woke ones.
You were the one who did
It doesn’t matter if you liked them! Jjking 😂
john carter yes
A few of these are really good Treasure Planet, Blade Runner 2049, Hugo, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Some are guilty pleasures like Sahara, Stealth, Speed Racer. Such a shame
The Man from U.N.C.L.E is a pretty good film
Little Mermaid '23 lost over $100M. Why didn't that make the list?
They reached their diversity quota.
It only lost 5m
@@elijahwilliams3728
You're way off.
@@DaveMan1K I just looked it up... State your source then
@@elijahwilliams3728
$240m budget
+ $100-120m marketing
= $340-360m
+ $190m cuts taken by theatres
= $630-650m break even point approx
$630-650m - $570m box office
= $60-80m loss
And that's with the numbers that we know and being generous. It lost far more than they want to admit.
I find it mind boggling that you could lose $100 million and then some on an animated film. No actors, per se and no special effects. Truly amazing.
I think films like 'Titan A.E.' were in this awkward stage of being right before 'animated' films were just drawn with CGI-technology and were actually hand-drawn. So they really were expensive, but because of Di$ney's dominating back then, hardly any traditionally animated films hardly stood a chance because there was no easy market.
Keep in mind when you search up a movie's budget, it only shows how much money they spent making the movie but it doesn't show the marketing and distribution prices.
An animated movie can lose over $100 million due to high production and marketing costs combined with disappointing box office performance. If the film fails to attract a large audience or faces strong competition, it might not recover its investment. Shifts in audience preferences and the impact of streaming services can further contribute to these losses.
Titan A.E. had a budget of $75 million. Hard to understand how they could lose more than what they spent.
@@alross10That was the budget to produce it. Would that include marketing and distribution costs?
Being box office flops doesn't mean they're actually bad movies. There's a few on this list that I actually like quite a bit.
I liked The Last Duel myself.
Treasure planet is an underrated masterpiece that deserves recognition.
I agree. I knew a few I liked weren't great movies or would win an Oscar but they were fun and entertaining. Didn't know they did THAT badly at the box office.
Stealth is better than it is. Nobody notices the computer's character arc.
Title doesn’t say anything about bad films.
I was very happy to see that the movie with Bree Larson topped the list. She became a self entitled Diva after a bit of success following the first Captain Marvel movie. After this train wreck her career took a huge nosedive.😊
And mostly because her movie was promoted to have something KEY to what would be the next Avengers movie, wich spoiler, was a lie xD
Gotta give her credit for Room. She won an oscar for that role and it's a very good movie.
Unfortunately the rest is history but I will always have a soft spot for that film. It proves she is a great actress... or atleast she was
Gotta give her credit for Room. She won an oscar for that role and it's a very good movie.
Unfortunately the rest is history but I will always have a soft spot for that film. It proves she is a great actress... or atleast she was
No one cares
@GeneralJLC no shit, that's why her last movie flopped so hard.
Lone Ranger was a fun film, especially if you liked Pirates of the Caribbean.
Alright, I'll stand up as a target for ridicule. I liked Hugo a lot, I enjoyed John Carter, and I thought Mortal Engines was an avenue worth exploring. Let the arrows fly. ✌
They were still flops, losing vast amounts of money. Personally, I enjoyed Valerian, Speed Racer, Final Fantasy, Black Adam, Titan A.E., Cutthroat Island, Haunted Mansion, and The Marvels, but they were still flops.
I agree I enjoy watching them, john Carter I was sad never got a sequel
@@LadyDeirdre True enough.
Blade Runner 2049 and Hugo i like them a Lot.
Both good movies
I still remember when Waterworld was considered the definition of a box office flop. Now it can't even crack the top 80. (Granted, I think it eventually made enough to get out of the red)
I thought exactly the same thing! Good heavens that movie was utter garbage 🤣
Waterworld made enough on home video and with TV sales to eventually become profitable
I liked waterworld 😊
I wonder if they adjusted this list for inflation though. That's forgotten so often when people talk about movie costs and losses
@@ald1144 I was hoping someone would mention this fact.
I will say it. The 2004 version of The Alamo is wildly underrated.
I love the Alamo movie
If you're old enough, like I am, you might remember the 1955 Alamo movie "The Last
Command", great last siege scene!
The 1959 Alamo with John Wayne is my all time favorite movie.
Right, very spectacular, and the battle scenes were realistic and brutal,but probabilly the production's costs were too big.
Billy Bob as Davey Crockett was very entertaining.
80s action movies and some 90s movies can never be matched
They can, by 60s and 70s western movies from Germany and Italy. 😎😎😎😎
@@renatoherren4217 yes they are also iconic. However current cgi superhero crap has destroyed cinema.
the 60s and 70s had the best films ever...
80s had the best horror movies
Well done Disney !!
and many great successes are always Disney
@@destroyerzilla7634, not lately.
But it is laughable at the amount of flops that were remakes.
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It’s not that these movies didn’t make a ton of money at theaters. The biggest reason they flopped is because they cost too much to make. If your movie generates $200 million but cost $300 million to make, you need to work on lowering your budget. You’re spending too much money paying big name actors and special effects.
Hey, it costs a lot of money to indoctrinate an audience with Leftist propaganda!
you forgot about the latest Star Wars flop
no star wars movie has been a flop
@@destroyerzilla7634 Solo?.
@@deadon4847 If only they added high-dollar miniseries to this list, huh?
Yeah the story abut the “ lesbian space witches “ is pretty funny … it was so awful 😞
@@destroyerzilla7634 They haven’t made a Star Wars movie since Solo, because Solo flopped so bad.
Not my boy treasure planet! That was such an under rated movie
Some of these definitely earned their losses, but there were some others that were actually at least decent films to watch. And of course, there were films like Tenet that only really got on here because of when it was released. I feel like that movie would have had more success if not for being released in the middle of a pandemic.
That's the only movie that I watched in theatres during COVID and I absolutely enjoyed it ,moreso in IMAX. It is the 1st 4k Bluray that I owned.
I think most of those "flops" happened because studios keep spending too much money on movies. Why not keep budgets low?
Because too many cast members, technical fields and directors demand too damned much money.
Union requirements are a big factor in production budgets.
Could've made 40-50 fully creative, studio-uninvolved indie films for The Marvel's budget, which has a way higher chance of success, but whatever, their loss.
Something to mention: The budget for "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" was much lower than that for "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" but "Star Trek II" was a much more entertaining movie. I think its because they focused more on telling a great story.
The Lone Ranger was a fun movie.
Sinbad, Treasure Planet and Rise of the Guardians were underappreciated during their release, now they're considered classics :3
Wolfman was Awesom
It really was.....
Thought so too
I don't think it's a fantastic movie, but the unrated version of Wolfman is probably my favorite movie on this entire list.
I love the scene where they got him tied down and all those old guys in suits are like giving him a trial or something, then he turns into the wolfman and starts eating them ... and they can't get out 💀
I liked it a lot also.
A few of these were films that I enjoyed. I think sometimes the problem is marketing, or perhaps just bad timing.
Cats should have lost more, that movie was horrendous
Trailer alone was creepy
It was a catastrophe....
A crime against cats!
Well, cats don’t have any money so they couldn’t buy a ticket to see it 😅.
😂😂😂😂
1:37 That’s unfortunate for Treasure Planet, it’s actually a really good movie.
I never thought that I would see the day when an Indiana Jones movie would be featured on a list like this.
I know, indiana jones and the STRONG INDEPENDENT HARPY was such a great film. How did it ever make this list?
Still a good movie yet. Not the quality of the trilogy of course, but really a worthy successor. Far better than 4.
@@rKhael53 Haven't seen it, never will. So, I'll take your word for it.
I regret seeing it, not for the movie, it wasn't so bad, but how all the protagonists had became OLD !😢
And yes, the female lead was AN harpy!
@@rKhael53
Same. I liked 1, 3 and 5 better than 2 and 4.
Regardless of Box Office returns some of these are actually good movies while others deserve to be flops.
Some really good movies on the list. Surprising.
Battleship was a great movie
The scene where they push the bubble gum machine over & fire up the engines of the mighty Missouri is the Best! “Thunderstuck” blasting out too-gave me goosebumps. 🔥
Yeah, I like it too.
god, I thought it was brutal!!
Megalopolis needs to be added to this list!
I love how most of them are very recent, to show how big movie companies like Disney have a very different vision about movie production than their costumers. Movies aren't for mass production. Every single time they try it, they failed. There is no big franchises, big actors, big directors and big budgets that can save a objective bad movie. It never worked, it won't work now. Movies are art, not a product to quickly consume.
3:52 #30 was the bomb that put Carolco Pictures out of business. They produced the first three Rambo movies, Terminator 2, and Basic Instinct, but Cutthroat Island wiped them out.
Hey, I have an idea for a movie: let’s take a once-beloved IP, hire 37 screenwriters to write witty, anachronistic, Wheedon-jabber, change the gender/color/persuasion of some characters, do 90% of the scenes on green screen so the actors aren’t ever in the same room, throw in a bunch of CGI so that the whole thing is just this shy of animation, toss in a major heaping of “the message” and add 23 associate producers who probably run the Israeli mafia.
My only question: Why has this not been tried before?
Lol😂
"My only question: Why has this not been tried before?
"
What makes you think it hasn't????
@@antonbruce1241 yeah, IKR?
what does israel have to do with this 😂 you live in fantasy land
@@aviv1002 do you live in Israel?
When I was a kid in the 1950s old movies were syndicated on television under the title "Million Dollar Movie", which suggested a massive budget. Now...
Will Smith got an Oscar Nomination for Ali....I had no idea it lost money.
DEI nomination.....
@@alsmith7382 It was a pretty good acting job......not as good as Pursuit of Happiness but....
It didn’t.
@@hawk66100 it says here it did
You could have slapped me silly.
TENET incurred a loss, due to Covid 19, Quarantine.
Yes. It's a shame. Mind you, it was a lot to get your head around. I saw it three times in the cinema, which is how long it took me to work out the time-lines.
I thought The Postman was quite good, and the ending was really emotional.
Some of these made losses at the box office but were still great movies regardless
I liked Sahara, Solo, and Treasure Planet. I’m probably one of the few who liked the Good Dinosaur.
I liked Good Dinosaur too. I don't see why it is so despised (but then again, I don't see why Monsters University is so despised when that movie is by and far my favorite Pixar film). It has a solid story and a good ending.
No creativity, too many remakes of remakes, boring concepts, PC crap, Woke crap, “Strong Female blah, blah, blah, billions wasted on very bad ideas. F Hollywood.
You pretty much nailed it.
I agree. Keep the culture wars talking points out of our favourite franchises. We can get plenty of it from social media, mainstream media, politicians, college campuses, and now department stores.
There's nothing wrong with a strong female lead, but Hollyweird is clueless how to make movies with one now. Movies like Alien or Kill Bill are perfect examples of how to do it right.
With "Wonder Woman 84" taking place in the 80s, they really missed the trick having Diana taking part in a spandex leotard-wearing aerobics class.
A lot of these movies came out during COVID and went straight to streaming - I wonder how they would have done with open and full theaters.
There are flops from people not going to the theater to see the movie, and there are flops from people not liking the movie. The Suicide Squad was a financial flop because people didn't go see the movie in theaters because of covid scares, but people love The Suicide Squad movie. It was a fan success.💯
The Valerian movie is quite underrated.
It's a fantastic stoner movie and one of my favorites of THAT genre.
I just watched it and thought it was TERRIBLE. The casting is AWFUL. No chemistry between the two, and Cara Delvigne is just genuinely unlikable. Perma resting bitch face. Not a feminine bone in her body
I was interested when in released but never actually got myself out the door to see it.
The title repelled me.
WTF is "City of a Thousand Planets" supposed to mean?
These morons made a mix of "L'Empire des mille planètes" and "La Cité des eaux mouvantes"
@@nuwandalton It was AWFUL
So satisfying to marvels as #1
Snow Brown is coming …
So this means BATTLEFIELD EARTH was more financially successful than all of these. Scary.
💀
I think its budget was relatively low
@@Stephen-to7jx That's the key, but given the movie's infamy, it's still shocking.
I'm still amazed Pluto Nash has fallen so far down the list. It was not that long ago it was being touted as the biggest flop of all time.
I heard of every single one but did not see most of them. There's just not an audience for many of these movies so how do the producers think they'll make their money. Also, with so many flops, where's the professional know how? The writers, producers, directors, and actors are supposed know what they're doing. The lay person shouldn't have to point out the errors of their ways.
When a movie earns it's budget back it still has to earn money to cover the cost of the promotion it received. The new "Twister" cost $200M to make and had to gross at least $380M to cover. It came close but was considered a flop.
Titan A.E. I love that movie, it's so underrated. There are a few on the list that I thought were good but flipped.
I think one of the problems with movies today is that the company thinks if they put millions and millions of dollars in a movie, it will bring people in to watch. Which is not always the case. Sometimes, it is not how much money you put in the movie, but the quality and the casting of the movie. I have seen many times that low-budget movies make hundreds of millions of dollars simply because it was a good quality movie.
What i don't get is how animated movies cost so much to lose so much in the first place, there's no actors with huge fees, live locations or sets or stunts etc.
big name actors get paid for voice work in animated movies so they still are a factor.
the power bill for the massive number of computers to render the cgi makes the animation itself costly.
Interesting video, there are a handful on here that i actually enjoyed so i was surprised at some of these!
It's kind of weird info. I just watched BoxOffice Joe channel lists Terminator Dark Fate made 262 mil claiming it was a superhit.
2:50 The Alamo - Efren Ramirez (Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite) had the option to take part in The Alamo (2004) which had big stars in it. That could be a big break for him. This however would have a conflicting schedule with the then unknown indie film Napoleon Dynamite in where he also got a role. He still chose Napoleon Dynamite and he got let go by his manager because of that choice. Napoleon Dynamite with a budget of only 400k USD, profited more than 100x its original budget (46 million USD)
Tenet was good, I saw it in a theater, but it came out during the pandemic.
Some of these films will continue quietly earning money as channel-fillers on TVs all over the world
Some were actually quite good, just came out at a bad time, others, mostly Disney, just weren't worth a darn.
I honestly liked The Lone Ranger. 😂
Can't believe Blade Runner 2049 lost money, it was a great movie!!!
So basically 80% of the movies made in the last 25 years.
I seen 34 of these movies in the cinema. Can I have my money back now please?
No...sorry, but you're screwed....
Odd thing is is a lot of these films are good but toxic news stopped people seeing them or they came out at same time as a huge hit, but some are just really bad
Rise of the guardians lost money!? It was a superb film
A masterpiece!
It should also be noted that it was a fail,at first but later recouped there loses for instance Rise of the Guardians loses were likely overestmated+in only two years DVD sales ALONE made 200 million firmly placing it in the red(not even counting merch sales).
Loved it
I thought it was great.
If a movie bombs at the box office, it doesn't mean it's bad.
It's way horrible if the box office is under the budget.
Good to know that i am not part of the majority. Plenty of movies in the list that i enjoyed.
I find it pretty funny that of all those listed, a fair number of them were ones I enjoyed. I'll wager that all the critics crapped all over them. Which is why I always watch them and usually find them quite enjoyable.
Sad about TENET and Blade Runner, those are good films. Time messing and Cyberpunkness are rarely profitable but highly appreciated by... maybe HR Giger fans and some weirdos like me 😅
Me too tenet was great c.Nolan is a genius
Both great films
Many of these weren't losses. They just didn't make the money back in the US.
Feel bad that Solo is on this list. I lost count how often I heard, “I didn’t give it a chance, not after that last one.”
I did give it a chance and it was just boring. I asked for a refund but Netflix said no
Love how for most of the first 60 or so entries I'm like:
"Oh, that lost money? That sucks." or "that movie wasn't too bad though."
And then you get to 20 and after and you're like
"Yup, makes complete sense." or "That lost money? Good!"
It should also be noted that some of these films were Bombs but later recouped there loses for instance Rise of the Guardians loses were likely overestmated+in only two years DVD sales ALONE made 200 million firmly placing it in the red(not even counting merch sales).
Valerian/Battleship/Last Knight(Especially thanks to tax cuts and product placement)/Tenet/XXX/Solo apperently manadged to recoup its budget thanks to secondary revenue as well so in hindisght they were more of dissapointments rather then bonaifed fails.
You have to keep in mind some of these movies premiered during the pandemic ( COVID) when we were not allowed to be present at the theaters.
I didn't know Ali was a flop
Total bomb
The younger generation wouldn't know who Ali was, and they are certainly not interested in boxing.
@@captainpoppleton The movie came out in 2001 lol
Ok... I'm half way thru the video, and I feel like the only way some of these movies lost that much money is if they literally made $0 at the box office or had insane marketing campaigns but barely sold any tickets...
Or... they're just stealing money and claiming these movies cost 10x more than they actually did.
Tenet was just in the wrong place at the wrong time
With the wrong actor
Yeah, it wasn't a good idea to release a big budget film during the pandemic.
@@chalkandcheese1868 So the whole movie was ruined because of the main actor? I think you might have another issue, that has little to do with the movie.
Released during covid the only reason it's on this list
Blade runner 2049 is an awesome movie. It’s the first in the list I noticed that there are real good movies in between there
In all seriousness.... there are some enjoyable movies, good movies and even great movies (blade runner, for example) in that list...
There were actually some good movies in there, especially lower costing half of the financial flops. Maybe the best trick Hollywood is producing in the modern era is cooking the books with so much financial "loss" that they get out of paying their fair share of taxes.
Almost 100% remakes that nobody wanted and unnecessary sequels.
Not every movie on here was a bad movie. Some were actually fantastic movies they just didn’t make the money they needed to and weren’t appreciated at the time.