$79,999 NEWER FLOOR PLAN - SEQUENCE 20K by Thor, Class B RV by 2yr fulltime
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PUBLISHED on 28-Jan-21
RECORDED in Tampa, Florida at the FL RV SuperShow in January 2021
Impressed that Thor is trying out a NEW FLOOR PLAN in a RAM Promaster RV conversion to a Class B RV.
The Sequence 20K is likely to work for many folks that desire a very large bed, a large and practical galley, and a functionally bathroom.
What are you thoughts on the Sequence 29K?
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Finally!! A floor plan for a solo traveler! Excellent! Love the interior design. I've been waiting for the RV industry to catch on to the solo traveler floor plan. Well done Thor!
Im with you on the market for solo travelers !!
I spent quite a bit of time in this one at Tampa. Then I test drove it on Monday. This floor plan is my favorite. I love the sofa. I removed the pillows and laid in in as a twin bed and it was perfect. Also just pulling out one side like the sales lady did makes a super comfy chaise lounger. I want the one with the lithium batteries no generator.
Thanks Emily for sharing your experience. Keep us posted on your journey !
i hardly ever pull out the bed. the twin suits me just fine. I also replaced the pillows with a folding 4in memory foam mattress. super comfortable.
My biggest regret with our Travato is not getting the lithium. An upgrade/retrofit will be in our future sometime this year. We live four hours from Reno, the home of Battle Born Li batteries, so I’d like to just drive over the hill and have their recommended installer in Sparks put them in for us. Not as snazzy as the Travato Volta system, no autostart, but we could run the microwave, A/C, etc. without firing up the blasted generator.
@@girlhoney Are you on Instagram? Which model do you have?
Pls keep us updated! I can only find one person on Instagram with the model and I’m interested in the Tellaro because it has the white cabinets.
I like everything about this floor plan for a single traveler.
It is kinda cool!
Exactly, for two the Travato 59k with solar lithium batteries and no generator
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Love floor plan. Really like tables. Larger refrigerator is great. Kitchen counter space is amazing. As a single woman traveler I would put this at top of my list. Would like Lithium batteries, but not much of an off grid camper.
Good to know you like
That's now my favorite floor plan. They've hit a homerun!!
Glad you like it !
It’s nice, but why not take the wardrobe out of the bathroom and replace it with a shower
Interesting idea
No one likes moist clothes or corroded cabinet pulls. Great idea.
@@shekharmoona544 my clothing is never moist 😂 it is a pretty big cabinet though. the drawers are super spacious too.
@@girlhoney do you have this RV? I'm curious about the bed. Can one side fold down or do you have to fold both? I fulltime so I'd like to leave the section behind the driver's seat down.
Nevermind, lol. She undid the bed.
That is a shower bath ...... they did a poor job in showing the features in this model
Currently, my favorite floor plan. As weekend Warriors I like the feeling of the couch being a “lounge” when not in bed mode. I haven’t measured it but from what I’ve read the bed is only about 48” wide. That’s great if you’re a snuggle couple. Kinda tight if you’re not.
The driver/passenger seats must be re-cushioned or something as I’m MUCH more comfortable in those seats than the Travato, or standard RAM seats. Haven’t researched enough to know if that’s true though. Admittedly, I’m a big guy at 5’11” and 225lbs.
I don’t recall the toilet seat being that close to the back door in the model I was in. That could be a game changer for me. I’ll have to investigate if there was a change for 2021.
Only thing stopping me at this point is Thor quality. I just don’t have a comfort level with them yet but I’m watching.
Thanks. Keep up the great work.
Thx Thomas
I love this layout, much better than others for one person. I would use this mostly for day tripping and having my own clean facilities with me. With my husband on an overnight (probably a rare occasion since it's a bit claustrophobic for two, I never realized how much bigger they look on camera until we toured a Jayco Swift yesterday) he can have the bed and I'll find a place for my foldout latex mattress. I wish it had lithium, so I could run the AC in stealth mode. But with that upgrade I would definitely get this model over any other model I've seen. Larger bathroom - a must -neither of us could move our arms in the tight Roadtrek bathroom - they show the big salesman sitting on it but you never see him demonstrating how he would actually for example bend his arm to reach the toilet paper, because he can't - and a decent fridge, a nice place to sit and eat, and I'm sure the bed would serve, I figure I am bringing my fold up 4" latex bed pad no matter the model, in case of overnight or a nap. A little breathing room and place to sit without taking up all the space by the twin beds. And a decent fridge. Do I dare hope they will come out with a lithium option. I don't need a hardcore boondocking for extended times van. Just something to tool around town and not worry about getting caught out away from a clean bathroom. Thanks Scott for the walk thru!
Great comments Z Z
I love this rg. It has so much storage packed into 21ft. 6 good size cabinets under the 5.5 cu ft refrigerator 5 cabinets in the kitchen, 3 over the sofa, 1 large cubby hole over the cab area, 2 drawers and a decent wardrobe closet in the bathroom. Wow, in a class b. And you can get 11000 watts of lithium batteries and alternator with that 20k for only $99,000. Nice.and I almost forgot the 2 cabinets at the buffet area
Not sure on the lithium.. it was confusing for me with multiple price signs and window sticker .... research is needed. Glad you found it compelling
@@gosmall.livelarge yeah they have lithium and none lithium.
I'm only one person and I like it a lot. To me it seems to have more room in it. Yes I really like it. I would buy one.
Hooray Russell :)
The entire bathroom is a shower
This is my favorite B right now because I would use the couch like a day bed. I too like that it’s just a different floorplan from all the rest.
awesome !
I like this floor plan and taking a few minutes to assemble the bed is not what I would consider a hardship. Looks like a great affordable option for a beginner.
Heath… Glad you like it!
When viewers watch beds put together it is being done by someone who has never done it before. It will obviously appear to be awkward.
I have made my bed over a thousand times. It takes me less than 30 seconds.
20 seconds to take down.
Also: there's a difference between putting together a bed and just making it bigge.
The twin mattress on the sofa is always there. You can lay down anytime you want.
If you want a bigger bed you have the option. It's not all or none.
Agree with you... once one gets the rythum it is a fast process
I kinda like this one, good storage space.
Thanks Mildred
The puzzle bed.....don't think so.
Thx Glen
Great tailgating vehicle or a vehicle a construction supervisor might take to his job site. I don’t think that it’s so good for a small family or for permanent or longer term living. Not sure that I would trust Thor quality either. I do give them credit for being creative.
Agree with you on creativity
For this price it certainly should come with solar, it's amazing and beautiful . Not worth 80 grand!!!
thx for commenting and subscribing Debbie
I LOVE this! It’s perfect for what I’m looking for.
Glad you found your RV !!
Tho needs to do better with insulation. They use very thin layers of insulation material and in some spots no insulation.
good to know Phil
Just stumbled on this video. Not sure how I missed it before. I really like this floorplan. This is one I'd love to see in person for sure.
It is a popular one
I really like that floorplan. I missed having a couch to lounge on.
Wine and lounging !
Ginger - have you tried the couch mode that some people with Travato Gs are doing with their dinette? I tried it last week, but it really needs the addition of the Lagun table to make it a functional living/dining space, IMHO. (Impossible to see the TV that way, so Marcus Stokes did it even one better with his couch hack because he has a little digital projector for his computer and put a cloth screen down over the slider for movie night!)
I am a full-time RVer. If I was single, I'd absolutely love this van. The interior is beautiful. There is tons and tons of storage and counter space. The refrigerator is a good size and even has a freezer. The rear bath seems adequate in size too.
Thanks for sharing!
The 20K would be great for a single person, the bed/coach is more or less a day bed. The only time I would pull out to a full bed, if I had an extra person traveling with me.
Great point !
Puzzle bed 👎 Not a fan of the rear bath, no storage. Would love awning windows in this van. Still liking the EKKO better.
Good to know Iggy
$100,000 NO WAY
$80,000 i would think about it
$69,000 SOLD!!!
LOL... thx
Show price was $79,900 and that was with the lithium package and quiet generator. Not too bad. If only it were on the Ford Transit :(
No Storage for garage items....you can have it....
Garage storage is important to many
Yasssssss..... Just perfect.. Totally my ideal setup
awesome
Not too bad on features for the price. Nice walk through including hearing the generator. Still don’t want a generator for the maintenance but nice option for those who can handle it. Liked how they had the couch split. Looked like a nice sitting area for 2 people. For a single traveler they may be able to get away with using just one for the bed. The lady seemed super helpful.
Truth on the generator !
I absolutely love the shower/toilet on the rear of the van 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Sweet
If this had a real ferrion oven '' NOT'' A MICRO ... I'D SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IT BUT I HATE NUKED FOOD ... THAT MICRO KILLED THE DEAL ! ...
MICROS ARE ALWYS A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME ... I WOULD ALWAYS OPT FOR AN OVEN ...
Finding an oven in a commercially built van might be a challenge. Probalby can do a DIY or custom builder for your oven,. thx for commenting and subscribing
@@gosmall.livelarge THANK YOU ... M
I need a bed that I don't have to convert...travel trailer, B Plus or truck camper for me.
Good to know
Same here. The last thing I want to do before bed is make it. Ugh
The build quality has some slight niggles in the Thors, as they’re trying to crank them out so fast. But at a price point tens of thousands less than the equally-optioned Winnebago, they are selling FAST. Two more 2500 rigs spied just today, the ‘Scope’ and another one I can’t recall. Think Hymer mid bath w/poptop, and a no bath/rear lounge and poptop (a-la PleasureWay Tofino). They’re even following the Winne CS model, with lotsa post-sale contact, owners group on the website, the whole 9 yards. Interesting time for B vans!
Good to know Mike
Would be nice to replicate the table for an additional one at the opposite corner of the other sofa chair so that there is one table per chair. The quietness of the generator is such an improvement. I'm liking the kitchen toward the rear and the more abundant counter space. The "end table" at the rear end of the sofa chair is nice. Love the pop-up electrical. The wardrobe inside of the bathroom has been odd since they were first introduced. After a shower the floor remains wet for a while and getting to the wardrobe with wet floor is not so great. Not that it's a solution to a wet floor but it would be nice if there were a sliding door (Travato bathroom type) to protect the wardrobe doors and which could also cover the rear doors/windows. It would be an interesting design challenge but probably could be figured out.
Great points Tim & Carlos !
That's where a teak floor insert would help and your shower curtain protects the wardrobe doors. I love this bathroom door over the Travato.
This looks better than the model you demonstrated earlier. The price is fair. Is the lithium version $99,000 at the show?
could not find the exact price on the lithium at the show
That’s ok, Scott.
We actually liked that one the best. By looks and design. I could actually slide the drivers seat back and drive comfortably. But....Thor 🤦🏼. We slid the bed out, it’s going to break. Cheaply made. Drawers were wobbly. No double pain, tip out windows. He shades were cheap, not the screen/shade slide style most use. Just cheap quality as expected from Thor. So that’s a no.
I was impressed with how quiet the generator was. Never heard it running at the show so your video was great. It was almost silent inside.
Thx T S M
The pleasure way tour 2.0/2.1 and Thor Sequence are our two finalists for Class B Vans.
Good to know Alberto!
If I was solo I'd just use the couch as my bed as is. But I travel with my girlfriend so I like the 20 L floor plan with twin beds in back. These units offer a lot though my price is in the 80k range at most. I do want the Lithium batteries. I really am thinking hard about getting the 20 L.
Great comment John
Omg the sound is so bad with her having the mask on
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The build quality on this model seems a lot better than the pop-up version. Does the lithium package exclude the generator? The bed would work for me if I don't tell my wife it opens I can leave her at home. I think the Nova is still my favorite in the ProMaster.
Choose one or the other, generator OR lithium, from what I could tell
These Class Bs are getting more affordable. I was hoping I can find more information on the Re(Li)able Renewable Battery System if it's almost on par with the Pure3
tough to located info on Thor's website about their lithium solution. and signage was not clear on the show rig.. thx for commenting
Take off the GD mask so you can be heard.
Duane the RV SuperShow rules required a facial covering when indoors and inside RVs. Mask was a small price to pay for getting access to the RVs to bring you and others tours of the rigs. Hope you can appreciate that. And thanks for watching!
Do not like that cheap sofa lookin bed.
Hmmmm…. Appreciate you watching, commenting, and being a Subscriber S J
Just not sure about that bed. I am liking all the rear bathrooms though
cool
Too much work to make a bed..but the price is good....
Thx Mary
The price is my favorite thing
Indeed !
I had just emailed someone about "quieter" generators and said no way is a generator quiet no matter what! And then I see your video... and have to eat my words! Layout is very nice too, don't mind making the bed, but I think you're right... about Winnebago quality.
Be seeing you!
Thx RoL
She said she had turned it off because the manager was coming over.....
Take off the mask
Yes, Anne. In January 2021 the mask was required to attend the FL RV Supershow. Masks were required inside buildings and RV to grab the van tours. Thankfully, things have changed and masks are no longer required (this time) for RV shows. Appreicate you wathcing through 1.5 year old video on the Thor Sequence 20K tour video
Just depends on your mission, if it'll work. I'm not a full-timer, and yes I would be ok with this set-up and config. Super quiet ONAN, heck yes. Thanks for posting, like how you go through the entire vehicle and explain everything. Well done!
Thx Buck.. I was super surprised at the quite INSIDE with the generator running.
That Sequence is so much like my 59 K that I like it, but as an older RV er I prefer my twin beds!
Good to know
Type B's simply have to use the cab-over area for bedding for kids, or to hold the TV and electronics, or just open space for storage. I hate how they don't dress the inside of the rear doors, and it's a shower no-less. The puzzle piece mattress does not look comfortable. I think an electrically-operated overhead bed that lowers works best. These B rigs SCREAM for a slide- out. And $25K for the lithium batteries is sheer lunacy. In the early to mid 90's you could buy a tricked out, extended length GMC Van with captains chairs, tv and kitchen for $20k to $25k. Why so damn high for an inferior product today?
Interesting points TL R…. Thx for commenting
For a single this would be fine for me.
Me too. I love that I would have the beautiful view from the couch ...during the day I work from my couch w my iPad or computer so this is perfect...???? Did u see a logical place to store the comforter, pillows and sheets.
The mattress doesn't look dense or think enough to me
Above the sofa bed?
Good to know !
I am in California and looking to down size. Do you have any in my location with a 2015 Neeson versa as trade in . Payment under $500 a month..??
No clue. Keep us posted. Downsize out of CA maybe?
Hmmm... interesting enough that I actually found the Thor webpage and looked at all the models. All very interesting variations. And so much storage space! I go nuts in the G trying to figure out where to cram things. I appreciate that saleswoman’s honesty in saying that that bed wasn’t very long. It isn’t a queen or a king. It’s barely a full: 54”x74” - but it looks a lot bigger - because the whole thing feels very roomy. I like that if you’re sleeping together on it, somebody doesn’t have to crawl over somebody to get to the bathroom at 2 AM. And unlike the Travato K, if you push the bed together, your heads aren’t up at the loo end. (I never figured how in the Travato K, we could shove the beds together and sleep without someone having to lift their legs up in the air, kicking their sleeping spouse in the process, spin 180°, and drop down with their feet in the bathroom!) And without pushing the Travato K beds together, that narrow single bed was just too narrow for a 6’2” husband who likes to toss and turn. I like it! But I think I still like the Nova better. Just a more luxe interior than those shiny cabinets a lot of manufacturers are putting in now. They look cheap and plasticky to me.
Lots of good points, as always Trish !
@@gosmall.livelarge I always look at things from the light sleeper/insomniac’s point of view!
I actually like the Sequence 29K. If they would change the windows to awning style and get rid of the black tank and install a cassette toilet that would be great but I dont think that they will. Plenty of storage and love the countertop space available.
You are right about the counter top!
Great video - pretty interesting to see that the current MSRP on this for the 2023 base model is now $135,000!!!! That is quite an increase over this MSRP and then the discount.
Agree with you Glenn on $$
I LOVE my 2022 20K. Very well designed. I've made a few mods, but it's great.
Thrilled to learn you are happy with your van. That is the way it should be. Thank you for watching
Could you tell us what mods?? 😊
The price is a showstopper, maybe fix up the shortcomings for value prop.
Interesting point Carl
No thanks! Still expensive. Add lithium and you are talking about over 100k. You could get better quality rigs for 95k without the lithium
Fair enough!
Nice but on par with Winnebago 🤔🤔.. too much work for the bed situation and doing that every night.. jus practical especially for full time use..
Good point Craig
Like you, I'm encouraged that they are trying different things.
Agree !
I'D buy this. all you need is a regulary job, some connection for getting fresh water and probably pay like 400 month paying this off and live in it.
Great points James
Perfect. But I still like DIY with new car 36k and spend 5k everything u have Solar power tooo
Awesome! thx for watching and commenting and subscribing
Does it have tankless on demand hot water? Insulation? Black tank flush? It does have better floor plan and fridge than the Winnebago . Nicer floor plan. How many seat belts?
great questions, don’t have specific answers for. Would need to check their website. It is a nice floor plan ,
my brain is fixed on a Class B but my body is telling me Class C. The C is for chubby. This bed takes up the whole van when extended. Thanks for the Video.
Hi Danny D
No way would I want to make up that bed every night. Plus I want a van with garage space. Otherwise, it has a lot of nice features. We are not buying our van till January 2022. We were sold on the Travato GL but I do not like the new model. Thanks for sharing.
Get you on the “new” 59G… :(
@@gosmall.livelarge That is the plan, though there are some new things I do not like such as the smaller bathroom.
It's nice but we don't like puzzle beds -- build-ups and tear-downs get old REALLY quick!
truth on ups and downs
Is that a microwave or oven?
I would want a microwave. Otherwise, l like the floor plan.
Not sure l like the table not being a fold away.
Thx Helen
I love the idea of this setup just a little bit too much fiddling around to get the bed set up it would be so much better if it was an electric fold out or like a fold down futon
Thx for your comment Robby
I am curious to learn if the Thor audience has been happy with the fit and finish. I get it, issues come up, but overall do you feel you are getting value with Thor quality?
good questions Scott
Travato quality for thousands less, not a bad idea. For a solo nomad floor plan is ok. you could sleep on bed without pulling out to full length. Looking more and more like winnebago drove of a cliff !
Appreciate your comment Ken
Its always the bathroom that take up valuable space..and a shower is rediculous..especially if your at campground with showers n toilets
thansk for commenting.
That bed looks super annoying to have to put together and with so many pieces coming together, it seems like it would be super uncomfortable.
thx Trent
It's nice but I don't like the bed situation just looked lame didn't even look comfortable.
Thanks for sharing
Good floor plan but the sofa should be a pull out bed. To much work in that configuration.. it doesn't invite you to love it. Good luck
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I like the unit, especially the high gloss cabinets. The bed looks a little involved to get it ready for sleeping when you consider you also have to add sheets and blankets, unless you use a sleeping bag. I prefer a separate fridge and ice compartment, not an ice compartment within the refrigerator. Overall though, I would prefer it built on the Ford Transit chassis.
Agree. It would be nice if it were motorized to deploy/retract. I noticed that the front bed "leg" seemed a little wobbly when she was deploying the bed.
Thanks for sharing Gene
Quiet generator is a big plus.
I prefer the 20L "Opposing Sofa" floor plan.
OK !
Nice, but not enough sleeping quarters...
Only 1 or 2 people can fit in this !😳
It is funny that my Travato can transport and sleep 4 people. Kyle and travel 4 and sleep 2.. Great point
So you’re sitting in the loo, and the wife floors it...do you tumble out the back doors, in all your glory?
Yikes !!
Jackknife sofa with combo arm rest and drink holders with matching material of front seats would be much better
Great point Charles. Thx for watching and commenting
Scott what do you think about this? I think in Class B there should be no kitchen so there’s more room for bathroom or for storage. Just a microwave inside is enough. When I cook it stinks up the whole van. You have a grill so why not all Class B users cook outside? If forced to cook inside can use the microwave or use a jetboil. I really think the kitchen is redundant. A portable stove would also be great. You have option for cooking indoor and out .
I think that is a great idea. What I'm learning from all the videos I've watched is priorities.
What is most important in a van and how do you plan to use it. Some don't like a full time shower. I could shower outside if it was warm enough. And can cook outside.
I'm used to an electric coffee maker but I could switch.
Interesting idea. never seen a van without a kitchen. I grill outside a great deal, but can't imagine not have a fully functioning galley.
@@gosmall.livelarge Scott I see you seem interested in some of the Coachman class B vans . I know you like your Travato GL. Would you have an ideal floor plan. Was thinking about Embassy RV.
Seems kind of cheapest
Hi Calvin
Sorry but the bed is a no go for me. Gotta scoot all the way to the end (or turn around) to get out of it.
Awkward
Nope~no thanks
Thanks jellybean !
I would use it as a twin bed because it’s just me. Then I will take my bed roll and roll it up to one side and use it for lounging during the day like I do now.
Thx Sharyn for sharin’ :)
Nice and a decent price but I want a permanent bed. ❤️🇨🇦❤️ Cheers!!!
Thx F&T
Check out the Panoramic made in Canada. Dedicated bed but much higher price too.
I love this floor plan!
It is cool ! thanks for watching and subscribing
No pop top ! They should allow a poptop option on every model I do t get it
I believe the popped up is now available on that model as
There is no such thing as a quiet generator, it’s not about the noise in your rig it’s about your neighbors listening to your noise, no Bueno
I tend to agree with you, though they have gotten much quieter than previous generations
Dude. Drop the mask. They don’t even work. U look silly
Facial covering were required to be in RVs at the Tampa RV SuperShow. Wearing mask small price to bring you and others the videos. Thanks for your understanding.
What are your thoughts about Thor’s new Scope 18M?
Got to check it out… stand by
Single traveler I like it price point is good , how about winter use?
Not sure how Fourseason capable of this RV is. I will investigate further when I visit the Florida RV SuperShow in Tampa in January
The shower curtain was already ripped from the hooks.
RV shows are rough on rigs !!
Forgot microwave “convection” love the big fridge!
Hi Ron
I really love the floor plans that Thor has out right now; however, I’ve heard from so many people that there are major quality issues. :’(. I really wish/hope that isn’t true because a Thor would be perfect for me.
Hi Karol
@@gosmall.livelarge hi Scott
@@gosmall.livelarge as you can tell, I’m knee deep in research mode ;). I even have a spreadsheet for comparisons.
I like the rear bath and the large fridge! I may take a look at this next Jan in Florida.
Hi chris
Too much trouble opening and closing the bed every night
okay !
The worst video. Camera angle is horrible. Moving on
Sorry to disappoint. Thanks for taking a look.
Very nice they're finally doing something about stupid loud generators. With the small inverter generators being so quiet, it just doesn't make sense that the one bolted to the thing you're going to sleep in is louder than people yelling at each other.
The floorplan isn't bad... I don't think I'd be a fan of having to convert the couch into a bed and back.. The 20L floorplan would be my preference... I'd sleep on the longer side, and pile my shit on the other side, then move my shit during the day and sit on the shorter couch side. But if I had my druthers, I'd rather have a floorplan like the Travato 59G.
Thx for sharing
What is the name of the company that is offering this van at $80,000?
Either Lazydays or General RV. I think dealer name was shown in video?
@@gosmall.livelarge What city/state? I live in California.
How much down typically ? How much pmt for a credit
Problaby minimum amount down payment to finance, but not sure. Working to get an RV expert to join my What’s Up Wednesday weekly #vanlife RV show. Hopefully they can give you better answers
I wouldn’t buy it without lithium batteries / solar.
Okay