Great video, thanks Ambie :) 19:04 Private auction : when there are multiple bidders, the auction starts with the playing TO THE LEFT of the current highest bid (page 14 in the rulebook)
You’re welcome! I guess I could have worded my explanation differently - when I said it starts at the highest bid and goes clockwise that means the same to me as starting the bidding with the player to the left of the highest bidder.
Super excited for this one! I backed the KS and this will be my first 18XX game. I've been interested in trying one for a while now, and your enthusiasm for them is a big part of what got them on my radar.
If just seeing them and thinking about how they work intrigues you there’s a good chance you will enjoy them. This is an excellent beginner 18xx because the stock market is more like the 1830 market which makes the stock element a more complex and compelling part of the game than the linear stock markets.
@@GPlewright Cool. I still haven't had a chance to play yet, but now have a group wanting to get together for it. Just need to align schedules and begin running some trains!
Super pumped to play this one. Not only does this latest printing set the gold standard for how production quality should be with 18XX games as well as having a proper rulebook we can also say it has a good how to play video for it on UA-cam which is basically unheard of for this family of games. Well done!
Thank you for this wonderful teach of 1889 Shikoku. After reading the rulebook, I needed to clarify a few things, which your video has done brilliantly. I'm also going to send a link to your video to my friends and see if they fancy playing this game. I reckon, with your video, they will be happy to. :)
It strikes me after watching your video what a daunting task it is to learn one of these 18xx games, much less to teach one. Yours is one of the better introduction tutorials I've watched & yet still I feel the 18xx series of games is best when played initially in person w/ an experienced player alongside to guide the group. That's just not going to happen in my situation so I am left thinking maybe this genre of board gaming is not for me, at least at this particular point in time. Also I wonder is this particular 18xx title any good w/ 2 players or is it mainly just "OK", (like many euro game experiences at that player count)?
Aw, sorry to hear that. It is easiest with an experienced player guiding but it is also possible to learn as a group (that’s what our group did but it took a lot of effort!) There’s also the possibility of playing a learning game online if you like that. My husband made the site 18xx.games where people play online. I personally haven’t played any 18xx games at 2 players in a long time so I’m not sure if any are good, but I think most would be just “OK” compared to more players because of the shared incentives. I think euro games tend to scale better at 2p than 18xx (but I also haven’t played a euro at 2p in a long time 😂)
I doubt it - I told myself after I did 1830 that I wouldn’t do any more how to play 18xx videos since they’re a lot of work, but I made an exception for this one since it’s my favorite 18xx and I was excited for the new version. I don’t know if/when I’d play Railways of the Lost Atlas (and I don’t own it).
Thank you for the great explanation and all the examples you added on each phase. I only spotted one minor detail that requires clarification: @9:26 The cost printed on the board must be paid only when track is laid for the first time, not when upgrading that same hex. However, some tiles show a cost which must be paid when they get upgraded.
Yup, that’s true! Most of the time the terrain icon will get covered up when you lay the first tile, so it won’t be showing any more. And I’m pretty sure in this version the tiles that need to be paid when they get upgraded also show the terrain icons.
You’re welcome! I only have subtitles for my scripted videos like this one since I already had all the text typed out. But for my unscripted videos I don’t upload any subs (although I think the auto generated ones tend to be decent now)
Great video! Thank you so much! Our group has one question regarding the Dogo Railway private company. Can you close that private for a 10% share of Iyo Railway even if Iyo hasn't floated yet?
Really looking forward to this. I already own 18Ches and 1882 Assiniboia, though given how hard it is to get these games to the game with my group I might whittle my collection down to just Shikoku 1889 and 1882
I hope you’re able to get Shikoku 1889 played when you get it! Does the rest of your group not enjoy 18xx, or are they just too long to be able to get played?
Is 19:06 an error? "It starts with the highest current bid and goes clockwise, with players raising by at least 5...". Does this mean that if I have a reservation bid of $70 and another player has a reservation bid of $65, then I have to raise to $75 or pass? That seems wrong.
Oh I see how it could mean that, but I meant that the bid starts with the highest bid and then goes clockwise to the next player (and that player raises or passes). So if you have the highest bid then the other player has to raise to $75, not you.
Great video, Ambie! How do you decide what par value to use when starting a company? Do you start low in the beginning and then later in the game go higher when the trains are more expensive?
Usually yes - I start low so that I can float a corporation (or I start at whatever price I can), and then I float my second one high since I have the money and can use the extra money to fund the first. But there are different factors that go into your choice of price to float - how much money you have, how much trains cost, how much money you need to get the trains/track/tokens you want, plus buy in private companies, where in the operating order you want it to be (although people can buy/sell shares to mess with that)
I haven’t played 18MS yet (anything that came out after 2019 when my twins were born is too recent for me 😂). But even though 1889 was out of print for a while, the Kickstarter is delivering to backers now so it should be available at retail soon! Plus, it’s always available as a print and play if people like crafting - that’s what our original copy was.
Yes, the bid increasing starts with the player to the left (going clockwise from the highest bid). In the video I was talking about the highest bid price as the starting point. Sorry if there was confusion!
The copy in the video I actually borrowed from Grand Trunk Games, but I also am getting the money cards from their Kickstarter. The Kickstarter is delivering now/soon, so I think the upgraded cards will be available for purchase after that, maybe from their site?
I haven’t played Railways of the Lost Atlas since it’s a new/unreleased game but 1889 is one of my go-to games for introducing new players to 18xx, and it’s also one of my favorite 18xx games. You can watch my overview video of the game here: ua-cam.com/video/EmXAHGlb-yc/v-deo.htmlsi=Fl5OO_lwlgAp5OJM
So at 3:19 you give an example of buying a train into a new phase where you will exceed the train limit of that phase you buy into. I thought that was not allowed in 18XX games (ie., train locked). Is that different for 1889?
This actually is allowed in 18xx games (and it’s why I used the example)! When you buy a train that causes the phase change, you are buying it in the previous phase so the train limit is from that phase. But once you buy it, the phase changes and the train limit changes. Then, you aren’t allowed to have too many trains and you have to discard. This only happens during this edge case where you’re buying the train that causes the phase change. If the phase is already in the new phase and you’re buying the next train, you cannot go over the limit.
Respect, explaining a 18xx game is not an easy task and this was pretty clear.
Thanks!
Can't believe how concise and clear this tutorial is. Really made the game feel less intimidating!!
Yay, I’m glad!
Great video, thanks Ambie :)
19:04 Private auction : when there are multiple bidders, the auction starts with the playing TO THE LEFT of the current highest bid (page 14 in the rulebook)
You’re welcome! I guess I could have worded my explanation differently - when I said it starts at the highest bid and goes clockwise that means the same to me as starting the bidding with the player to the left of the highest bidder.
This is a phenomenal and surprisingly succinct explanation if a rather complex game. Amazing job!
Thank you!
I have to subscribe after watching this. Well done
Thanks for the sub!
Super excited for this one! I backed the KS and this will be my first 18XX game. I've been interested in trying one for a while now, and your enthusiasm for them is a big part of what got them on my radar.
Yay! I hope the video helps you learn and I hope you like it!
18MS by All Aboard games is another great beginner 18xx, as well as 18Chesapeake. Enjoy your game. 🎉😊
If just seeing them and thinking about how they work intrigues you there’s a good chance you will enjoy them. This is an excellent beginner 18xx because the stock market is more like the 1830 market which makes the stock element a more complex and compelling part of the game than the linear stock markets.
@@GPlewright Cool. I still haven't had a chance to play yet, but now have a group wanting to get together for it. Just need to align schedules and begin running some trains!
Super pumped to play this one. Not only does this latest printing set the gold standard for how production quality should be with 18XX games as well as having a proper rulebook we can also say it has a good how to play video for it on UA-cam which is basically unheard of for this family of games. Well done!
Thanks!
I first heard of 18xx games from you years ago on the Dice Tower. This is my first 18xx. Thanks.
You’re welcome! I’m glad I got to introduce you and I hope you like it!
Thank you for this wonderful teach of 1889 Shikoku. After reading the rulebook, I needed to clarify a few things, which your video has done brilliantly. I'm also going to send a link to your video to my friends and see if they fancy playing this game. I reckon, with your video, they will be happy to. :)
Oh yay I’m so happy this helped! And I hope your friends end up playing and enjoying the game!
Great video. Super excited for this one, can’t wait for it to arrive
Hope you like it!
Really good video! Very clear and complete. Thanks
Perfect explanation. Thank you very much. I still haven't played but I think I will try soon.
You’re welcome! I hope you like the game!
Really good rules explanation. Thanks a lot! :)
You're welcome!
Great job, Ambie!
Thanks!
Really good explanation! Now I just need friends to play with 😅.
Good luck finding friends! You might be able to find some people on BoardGameGeek or in the Online 18xx Friends discord: discord.gg/Ydqy6DT
Really great job. Thank You! :)
You’re welcome!
It strikes me after watching your video what a daunting task it is to learn one of these 18xx games, much less to teach one. Yours is one of the better introduction tutorials I've watched & yet still I feel the 18xx series of games is best when played initially in person w/ an experienced player alongside to guide the group. That's just not going to happen in my situation so I am left thinking maybe this genre of board gaming is not for me, at least at this particular point in time. Also I wonder is this particular 18xx title any good w/ 2 players or is it mainly just "OK", (like many euro game experiences at that player count)?
Aw, sorry to hear that. It is easiest with an experienced player guiding but it is also possible to learn as a group (that’s what our group did but it took a lot of effort!)
There’s also the possibility of playing a learning game online if you like that. My husband made the site 18xx.games where people play online.
I personally haven’t played any 18xx games at 2 players in a long time so I’m not sure if any are good, but I think most would be just “OK” compared to more players because of the shared incentives. I think euro games tend to scale better at 2p than 18xx (but I also haven’t played a euro at 2p in a long time 😂)
Will you do Railways of the Lost Atlas? Either way, your videos are awesome! Thanks!
I doubt it - I told myself after I did 1830 that I wouldn’t do any more how to play 18xx videos since they’re a lot of work, but I made an exception for this one since it’s my favorite 18xx and I was excited for the new version. I don’t know if/when I’d play Railways of the Lost Atlas (and I don’t own it).
@@BoardGameBlitz thanks for the reply!
Thank you for the great explanation and all the examples you added on each phase. I only spotted one minor detail that requires clarification:
@9:26 The cost printed on the board must be paid only when track is laid for the first time, not when upgrading that same hex. However, some tiles show a cost which must be paid when they get upgraded.
Yup, that’s true! Most of the time the terrain icon will get covered up when you lay the first tile, so it won’t be showing any more. And I’m pretty sure in this version the tiles that need to be paid when they get upgraded also show the terrain icons.
You have subtitles?? Instant sub, thank you!
You’re welcome! I only have subtitles for my scripted videos like this one since I already had all the text typed out. But for my unscripted videos I don’t upload any subs (although I think the auto generated ones tend to be decent now)
Thanks very good rules explanation,
You're welcome!
Great video! Thank you so much! Our group has one question regarding the Dogo Railway private company. Can you close that private for a 10% share of Iyo Railway even if Iyo hasn't floated yet?
Yes you can, and that share can count toward helping Iyo float too.
@@BoardGameBlitz Thank you!
Really looking forward to this. I already own 18Ches and 1882 Assiniboia, though given how hard it is to get these games to the game with my group I might whittle my collection down to just Shikoku 1889 and 1882
I hope you’re able to get Shikoku 1889 played when you get it! Does the rest of your group not enjoy 18xx, or are they just too long to be able to get played?
Unfortunately a little bit of both, though I can always use my birthday to get it to the table once a year.
Outstanding teach. Well done & thank you!
You’re welcome!
This is a great resource. Thank you so much.
You’re welcome!
This is the only time those money cards will ever be set up.
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Is 19:06 an error? "It starts with the highest current bid and goes clockwise, with players raising by at least 5...". Does this mean that if I have a reservation bid of $70 and another player has a reservation bid of $65, then I have to raise to $75 or pass? That seems wrong.
Oh I see how it could mean that, but I meant that the bid starts with the highest bid and then goes clockwise to the next player (and that player raises or passes). So if you have the highest bid then the other player has to raise to $75, not you.
Great video, Ambie! How do you decide what par value to use when starting a company? Do you start low in the beginning and then later in the game go higher when the trains are more expensive?
Usually yes - I start low so that I can float a corporation (or I start at whatever price I can), and then I float my second one high since I have the money and can use the extra money to fund the first. But there are different factors that go into your choice of price to float - how much money you have, how much trains cost, how much money you need to get the trains/track/tokens you want, plus buy in private companies, where in the operating order you want it to be (although people can buy/sell shares to mess with that)
Interesting, but difficult to find. I have chosen 18MS as an entry game to incorporate new players.
I haven’t played 18MS yet (anything that came out after 2019 when my twins were born is too recent for me 😂). But even though 1889 was out of print for a while, the Kickstarter is delivering to backers now so it should be available at retail soon! Plus, it’s always available as a print and play if people like crafting - that’s what our original copy was.
@19:03 It starts with "the participating player to the left of the current highest bidder," not the current highest bidder.
Yes, the bid increasing starts with the player to the left (going clockwise from the highest bid). In the video I was talking about the highest bid price as the starting point. Sorry if there was confusion!
Where did you get the upgraded money cards?
The copy in the video I actually borrowed from Grand Trunk Games, but I also am getting the money cards from their Kickstarter. The Kickstarter is delivering now/soon, so I think the upgraded cards will be available for purchase after that, maybe from their site?
@@BoardGameBlitz cool but isn't anyway better to play with poker chips?
I prefer poker chips but not everyone has poker chips.
How this one compared to the new title railways of the lost atlas. Which one is a better as an essential gateway to 18xx and more replayability?
I haven’t played Railways of the Lost Atlas since it’s a new/unreleased game but 1889 is one of my go-to games for introducing new players to 18xx, and it’s also one of my favorite 18xx games. You can watch my overview video of the game here: ua-cam.com/video/EmXAHGlb-yc/v-deo.htmlsi=Fl5OO_lwlgAp5OJM
Sorry but you are talking way too fast for such a complex set up. Can't be pausing or replaying every ten seconds
Have you tried the UA-cam playback speed function? It works really well and can play back at 0.75x (or even 0.5x or 0.25x) if normal is too fast.
So at 3:19 you give an example of buying a train into a new phase where you will exceed the train limit of that phase you buy into. I thought that was not allowed in 18XX games (ie., train locked). Is that different for 1889?
This actually is allowed in 18xx games (and it’s why I used the example)! When you buy a train that causes the phase change, you are buying it in the previous phase so the train limit is from that phase. But once you buy it, the phase changes and the train limit changes. Then, you aren’t allowed to have too many trains and you have to discard. This only happens during this edge case where you’re buying the train that causes the phase change. If the phase is already in the new phase and you’re buying the next train, you cannot go over the limit.