Average Gun Owner Reacts: Civil War A24
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Civil War was a very controversial movie. I was really interested to see it and had 4 questions:
1. Is it a good action movie?
2. Is it a good war movie?
3. Is it propaganda?
4. Does it try to make me feel bad as an average gun owner?
I hope this video can answer your questions too.
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Outro Music: PT109 by Jimmy Dean
00:00 Intro
00:50 Good Action/War Movie?
4:39 Is It Propaganda?
5:42 Support Read
6:38 Does It Want Me to Feel Bad? - Розваги
Honestly, I think they put CA and TX together so as to not pick a political side in the movie.
I've seen many comments on different platforms surrounding this movie that there is no way or it's ludicrous that California and Texas would ever ally themselves in a modern-day civil war, IMO I think the concept of this is " The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend", despite having opposing views other times between the two states.
Texas would INVADE California instead of team up with them
Heard the same thing. Also neither state is a conglomerate. Rural areas in both tend to agree, and cities in both tend to agree.
People who parrot the whole "California and Texas wouldn't be allies" talking point have an absurd case of Dunning Kruger Syndrome. They might be smart in modern politics but are oblivious to past politics and history. Spanish Civil War is an amazing case; Falangists, Monarchists, Anarchists, and nearly every other -ists except for Nationalists teamed up, and do we have to mention Soviets and Americans teaming up against Germany ?
It is mentioned early in the movie that when to goal is reached: Washington DC / deposing the president, the Western Forces will go at each other. I thought of Kabul 1992. After the fall the Communist regime, the Mujahedeen began fightinhg each other
Its ludicrous for the reason that If a Second civil war Happens there IS a Big Chance These two are the war factions Leading the war against each Other and starting the war in the First place
When I saw this film the final scene impressed me the most. The final battle in DC is what I believe is what a Roman civil war would look like. The fall of the White House was the most brutal with the Western Forces fighting the holdout Secret Service was the most visious.
Very brutal, which I liked the portrayal of.
instead of war bad, it's civil war bad. this is the extend of hollywood's originality
They did have patches showing who they were with . The loyalists had American flags and the western forces had the two star flag
During parts but not all of it.
I think each of the factions troopers look like this:
Western Alliance guys seem to wear some form of Multicam.
Meanwhile Loyalists/US Army guys still wear OCP. It's hard to see but when the WF were invading Washington DC by the end the Loyalist troops definitely wore a more 'darker' or browner looking camo than the almost all green Multican the WF uses.
Florida Alliance are confirmed to be the Hawaiian shirted guys that show up in the middle of the film, so I guess that's their official uniform.
And finally we don't really see the New People's Army in the film at all since they're all based up in the Pacific Northwest.
What source do you have on the Hawaiian shirt guys also were they just fighting loyalists?
Also sorry to spam questions but what team do you think the sniper duo in the christmas decorations are?
@@thebasedone2621 probably WF.
I just watched it last night as I was curious about it. It had some good stuff but also a lot of weird choices.
Liked and subbed just because of your name "8mm Mauser Man". My first weapon was a VZ24 Mauser.
As war movies go, it's pretty inaccurate
Yeah. Ran into a guy who was in the Nebraska Guard today, and he brought up some things I hadn’t thought about. Thanks for your thoughts and subbing! I really like doing 8mm ammo reviews
It was intentionally ambiguous about who the “good” and “bad” guys are.
Yeah. I think they could’ve added a bit more clarity at times and still had the feel.
Or they could have given you the perspective of all sides and Everton is the good and bad guy at the same time
Been following since you were at 600 subscribers. Makes me happy seeing a good guy like you growing.
Thanks!
Thanks for providing this thoughtful analysis of the new Civil War movie. We really need people doing this kind of work, people who can look at movies or the media and who can help us to understand what is unstated or understated in these products, and that can be challenging to do well. You have a solid moral foundation, and it helps you to give an accurate analysis of the movie. In this you are a credit to the firearms community. Thanks and keep it up!
Thanks for the kind remarks.
The film had me making comparisons to earlier films, such as: “The Killing Fields” & “Salvador”… not really anything more than a movie about combat journalism and bad decisions 🤷
I got to admit if you don't have a prison what do you do with prisoners
awesome vid dude thanks for uploading your thoughts
I really appreciate your review as I felt exactly the same way about the film. I was left surprised at the real lack of modern political discussion, despite the film's context. I enjoyed that. It focused more on the combat and more plausible small scale scenarios that one would encounter if our nation went down this route in the future. I was left wanting more background though.
Nice reviews with good argument . Just watched this movie, and was still confusing the context the movie may have assumed. The director seems to be over ambitious to present such a story that requires serious,detailed political hypothesis. Overall I would personally rate this movie "unsatisfying" for even failing to tell a complete story.
So in the movie they low key talked about what the president did in the beginning when talking about what questions they would ask during the interview talked about killing political rival disbanding the fbi and allowing himself to run a third term
For sure. I just didn’t think that that made him align with one party or the other.
@@8mmmauserman that’s the point it doesn’t matter what party they are in the end nobody wins
Im the old guy with the Eotech with the LBC on his A1 for the civil war hahaha
LEGEND
Haven't seen the movie yet, but an interesting take you have. I think I shall see it.
Saw it last night expecting it to be so bad it was decent and ended up really enjoying it
Yeah, it wasn’t terrible. I would have just like some more clarity in certain areas.
I shouldn't be here. I've not seen this movie yet. The video isn't giving it away as much as the comment section is. I always check the comments. Be back soon.
I'd still call this a political movie in the sense that the subject is inherently political but it veers away from being partisan in the 'red vs. blue' sense.
Highly recommend Annihilation and 28 Days Later to get a greater sense for Alex Garland's style.
Political but nonpartisan is a pretty good take.
This review earned you a sub!! So far, other channels have turned this entire movie into some kind of "L/R" thing and fixated on "TX/CA" alliances as "not happening".... The lack of contextualization IS the point. Chaos insues and no one knows who's who and there are small pockets of what is going on as these 4 individuals go through their trip.
I'll add this, war movies are and have been about propaganda. It is a moral booster, a story told to fill in gaps in journalism and it's define who our enemies are and how we defeated or lost to them. It's to honor our war dead and our veterans who survived and a telling of their stories through their own eyes as well. Hollywood adds it's flavor, regardless if we like it or not, but we are still enthralled by it's telling of events. You as the audience and individual, make the choice to subscribe to the stories by going further into educating yourselves, one way or another.
With that, I enjoyed the movie, and loved your review!!
Rangers Lead The Way!!
Thanks for the positive comment. Most people who liked the movie were just nasty for me not being a big fan. I love your take too.
I think the reason why they left it up to ambiguity is to stay neutral. It gets more viewers to show up if there isn’t a blatant “side” that it’s taking.
I agree. I think they maybe could have done a bit more while keeping that ambiguity, but that’s just me.
🇦🇺😎👍Great video mate🏁
Well done.
This is so funny because the very idea of Texas and California being allies for any reason is so unbelievable.
It’s only unbelievable for the ignorant
@@Fordgroup00
Texas and California are polar opposites.
Other then Texas is going blue
Could you be anymore narrow minded? What if they overthrew their blue government before creting western forces? Are you so dense you don't actually believe that some counties in Cali vote red, but lose to the blue ones? Wake up dude, the world ain't that simple.
I mean both wanted to succeed from the United States and In real life seeing that supposedly the Supreme Court has just abolished Texas right to mass protest and everybody hating Biden including Californians I think it’s pretty legit
I did my research before watching the movie. I went into the movie with the knowledge that this movie was going to be apolitical, the reason for the war wasn’t going to be given, and most importantly, that the movie was going to be a love letter to war journalist who put their life on the line to get the perfect picture. Probably this is why at the end, I thought this movie was amazing
Amazing? Everything about it was dry. So you agree witht the marketing then? Because it sure wasn't marketed as a journalist movie. They made it sound like this was the war movie to end all war movies.
I thought the character development was also really lacking and dry.
@@8mmmauserman Yeah, there just wasn't any. I don't know how anyone can say these actors put on performances of a lifetime. When Lee died, I didn't feel a single thing, except her decision was dumb as fuck and it wasn't heroic. Then, to my astonishment, her partner, didn't give a fuck about her lol. Only dude I felt bad for was the old man, because he told them not to approach Jesse Plemons crazy ass lol.
Hah what you guy say is irrelevant, most top reviewers agree with me. You can also see that it is liked by most audiences as well. You are just saying nonsense at this point. I just commented on this dudes video so maybe he can do some actual research next time he reviews a movie.
@@thelrdroca9412 So you're a simp, cool. Answer my original question and we'll talk.
Haven't seen it,the trailer made me think it was a psyop
Oh I love Wes Anderson! How exciting!
Royal Tenenbaums is one of the best
Why is “freedom” all wrapped up in guns? Why not cross-bows or flame throwers, for that matter? Why are guns, in particular, on the altar of freedom? To me, they are just tools, like rakes and shovels. Useful, but I just don’t get the sentimental love that people have for guns. People aren’t in love with their rakes and tire irons like that.
Freedom is a lot more than that. Free speech, freedom to practice religion, economics, and more. These things are maybe even more important in the grand scheme, but guns are often fought against and they are seen as protecting of the other rights so they get pushed to the forefront.
Also, this is a gun channel, so it’s what I talk about on it.
Cool shirt!
Walmart’s finest!
Eotechs are on safe queens
I don't really think this film is future prophesy or leftist propaganda. It doesn't really have a political message at all beyond the implication of making a film about civil war in the U.S. at all. As for not knowing who was killing who I think you're right that it was intentional; we are definitely missing a scene somewhere that adds just a bit of context, even if only posing the question to the audience more obviously. Also I think if anything the film paints gun ownership positively, the town that seemed isolated from the war the crew pass through is only kept peaceful, ostensibly, by an armed civilian garrison. Pretty good movie overall I guess, it's fine. I don't think they should have made the film overtly political, but I do think making a film about civil war in the U.S. and having it stripped of anything political can only hurt that story. I guess what I'm getting at is maybe don't make this movie. Make a film about civil war somewhere else, make it political, as civil wars are.
Haha. Yes! The most violent & sad Wes Anderson movie.
As a liberal that believes in the second amendment, and truly loves my country. I liked your movie review, thank you for being honest and fair. There are super rich people spreading Neo fascism cancer across the modern world. George Washington once said: Few men have the virtue to resist the highest bidder.🤓
Thanks for the comment. I have no idea how to say where I stand politically. I just do my best to follow Jesus daily, loving those around me from those who misuse immense power to those with no power at all being abused.
Be well.
Neo fascism says the self described liberal lmfao 😂
Says you believe in the 2nd amendment but if you want any “common sense gun control” also known as giving your government power over your ability to use a right IE turning a right into a privilege you aren’t for the second amendment
bro does larps with antifa on the weekends
Definition of liberal is open minded to other ideas…. I don’t get your point?
My problem with the mere idea of it is that it's way too disturbing to make entertainment out of and should not be a legal movie. It's not something that should be allowed to make entertainment out of and fetishize when its a legitimate threat to everyone's safety and could inspire people to act violent in real life.
I personally think the idea of the movie is deplorable, a movie about a modern civil war in North America should never be made and I think is playing with fire.
I think the movie did an adequate job of show a civil war as a bad thing to be avoided.
@@8mmmauserman yeah I guess so, but I feel it also kind of romanticizes it into entertainment, which I think isn't the healthiest thing in the world. But it is a fair argument. One can argue all war movies and movies about suicide or political matters do this though however, this means trivializing a otherwise very real fear and problem, idea. That I find dangerous.
Politics aren’t the point of the movie. Most people are just straight up missing the point
Fully agreed and fully aware. Politics aside I think the plot and characters just didn’t develop well.
Comments
I was wondering if this would end up being propaganda in a way, glad to hear it isnt. Though it does leave a lot of vagueness left to assumptions, which could be propaganda for people with a specific mindset.
Hard core leftists or righties would likely end up thinking one side was dems and one side was reps, and im betting both groups asked would have mixed decisions on who is what in the movie.
Yeah, I had that thought too. I think you could read a lot into it if you had really strong beliefs.
The whole point of the movie was the war not the cause 😒
Yep. Would have liked just a bit more context that still kept that feel.
Answer to your thumbnail, neither. Just an empty script, with no world building, character development or backstory. Just a movie that's 9/10 boring with the 1/10 of action being decent, but not amazing. Best part of the film is the battle in DC and the sound is the MVP of it all. Tactics were garbage, they tried to make the reporters more important than they were (no soldier in active combat is gonna care where the press is). I could go on and on about how bad this movie was. Garland goes the lazy route and says, I left it up to the viewer, because they're smart enough to come up with a backstory. Nah chief, movies like this need context. Can anyone actually tell me why we should hate POTUS, or how this war has affected the 4 main characters? Nope.
Accurate. Cinematically really good. Writing like a 2 or 3/10
I swear if I see or hear another “TeXas And CaLiForNIA aRe TeAmEdD uP?! That’s so unrealistic” than I am gonna snap 😂😭.
Relax and have some imagination, it’s fiction, which means it’s okay to be fictional btw.
Also, I think people get confused about the rural areas of both Texas and California having a lot in common with eachother.
Yet Texas is going blue
I keep imagining trump and/or putin in that final scene. A fitting end for a pos dictator. Excellent film.
It’s interesting how much more left leaning people are reading into the film than right leaning people
@@8mmmauserman I’m right leaning. Leaning right into a tap tap on Vladimir Trump’s left shoulder.
Whether or not you like him there's only choice come this Nov. 2024 ....
Do you mean Jesus Christ?
@@8mmmauserman , Trump .
I think I’ll stick with my answer. Thanks for commenting though. Really appreciate seeing you on videos!
@MegaBait1616 lol you think Trump is going to save us lol
@@Dread_Pirate_Homesteadersave? No. Fuck us less than biden? Definitely.
I can't trust this guy's opinion about anything if he really considers himself "average".
You’re right, I’m pretty handsome
Either way Trump sucks.
Everyone sucks.
@@8mmmausermanspeak for yourself
@@willbaker8505 *(almost) Every politician sucks
@@8mmmauserman oh no my mistake, every politician does suck.
It’s funny that you think anyone or anything that voices an opinion /view that doesn’t align with your beliefs is considered propaganda put forth by people who for some reason want to take your freedom , but you blindly follow the biggest propaganda based doctrine of all time , the Bible. You seem like a decent dude and no hate on you.
lol nerd
I don’t think anyone who voices a different opinion is propaganda, but media designed to promote or malign a political cause, typically by using emotional, biased, or dishonest manipulation tactics is a pretty textbook definition. I don’t think this movie was propaganda, even though I’m sure there’s a number of things I disagree with the writers on.
Imagine being an atheist lol. What a cringe lord
@@8mmmauserman I thought your video was balanced and fair and I have no idea what this guy was talking about. Also love the mosin content you have. Subbed.
Hey now, let’s still be kind and represent our King well ✝️👑
I liked the movie weapon accuracy was good but a bit off the last scenes with the SF guys were a bit off mainly because of the bump helmets in a war zone :) I enjoyed it will re watch
I didn’t notice that. Good eye.
Most sf guys ran bump helmets in war. The real ones don't save you either 😊