It Just Keeps Getting Better (So High) - MiG-29 Germany
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Fuel: Max tank + droptank
Ammo: armoured targets
Missiles: 2 R27ER 4 R60M
Countermeasures: Depends on map Flares priority or flares only
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + expert
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The German Mig-29 video is now real
Can we get much higher!
What video?!? I need to know the origins of this meme!
@@GodsStrongestHater69 Dark Fantasy by Kanye West
I'm pretty sure it's from here in the intro. :)
... an F104J saved your bacon?
A flareless boat of a plane that gets focused every time one flies it out. Saved your MiG29.
As someone who's very frustrated with how the F104J has become basically useless, this strangely excites me.
The radar gunsight doesn't work very well in third person view but as a simulator player I can tell you that even when they're manouvering, in the cockpit it works excellently
if it worked well in third person it would ruin top tier in sim it doesn't matter as much as the worse planes are probably gonna play when the br brackets favour them, and half the time you dont even need it since people dont know how to dogfight
@@Jojooooooo as a viggen pilot with no tracers I'm gonna disagree, I want to know where to aim like everyone else
@@vigo4ever he’s talking about sim battles, you know, a literal game mode in the game? What else do you want him to call it?
@@Jojooooooo I don't think you actually play Sim if you don't know how BR works in that mode..
on gawd?
with the change to how HE works for aircraft cannons iv switched to the ground target belts on the 30mm and i must say it feels amazing
Thats what i am using ;-;
APHE meta
What did they change exactly? I noticed there is something "wrong" post patch
where my MiGGas at with em 30mm APHEs whizzling the air at 800m/s and kekwscoping morons from 1.3km away.
@@mutiracialbeatdownPB HE does literally no damage
Top tier might actually be kinda fair and balanced, there’s MiG 29, F-14, F-16, Mirage 2000, all pretty good planes.
I got a downtier yesterday against F-5E's and premium F-4S in my Mig-29. My whole team died (6 people crashed smh) and I was left with 1v8.
I won, it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Felt absolutely dirty and unfair lol.
Have you actually flown the f16? 9g limit is kinda garbage
Unless your in a 11.0, just got my J-7E and it isn't fun at all, only got downtiered twice out of 30 matches. The fact that my first top tier plane is MiG 29 doesn't help at all
Tornado F.3, Viggen, all pretty good planes.
@@iambabirusa yeah China definitely needs a better domestic top tier, was hoping they’d add an updated version of the J8 with better radar and missles
02:19 that's because the radar gunsight calculates based on the assumption that the target will fly straight from the second you pull the trigger, which in dogfights is of course wrong. It essentially makes it so you have to remove any radar lock you have (inlcuding a TWS lock) to get the regular gunsight back so you can guess where to aim with a reticle actually pointing where your guns are pointing as opposed to guessing with a reticle that's all the way in Narnia.
Edit: it is very accurate when the target is flying straight, it's basically a free pilot snipe from almost any range if they do that, but since you can't count on the enemy to fly straight in general, especially not in a dogfight, that only makes it a gimmick at best.
It’s not a gimmick at all. It’s extremely useful.
@@collander7766 explain
I've only found it super useful in super low-speed fights (ones that you should probably be able to lead on your own) or head-ons, which, as it turns out, I'm bad at soo..
I have used it several times with good success. Target flying fast, me flying fast, entering a dogfight and people slowing down and maneuvering and it still works great most of the time for me.
@Noé I wonder if you can use it for head on. Start spraying at 3km. People usually start shooting at 2.5km to 2km and then breaking away. So if you shoot early, maybe..
As a German main, I’m glad they added it
We German mains are finally thriving after like how many years of inferior top tier fighters, I'm extremely glad too
@@Alonsooooo1 *CL-13A flashbacks*
Same, but tbh I expected more a Mig-29G, it would've been cool to have a model that at least has a more unique cockpit and camo. But still, cool they added this one.
@@SemkaMmurilowe can only cope
18:04 defyn, im from the future. And i have good news
The radar gunsight only indicates how much you should lead the gun, and nothing else.
For example, if your target is going in a linear path from your POV, then the radar gunsight will work perfectly.
If it's manoeuvring, then just aimaing the radar gunsight will just never hit.
What I do is that I get in a favorable position (like above the target) then use the radar gunsight to get the correct lead, and then I spray a little to the right and to the left for good measure.
Often you can tell where the target is deviating to and correct for it on the fly.
Well, as long as you understand the only 100% reliable information it gives you is lead, it's a pretty useful tool.
Can we all agree that the mug-29 has solidified itself in war thunders history as probably the biggest gremlin that has so far ever graced air RB not even the J21a was as bad as this thing when it was added
F-14a was worse. That’s what forced US vs US every matchup top tier.
Knowing the planes you like, I look forward to your Tornado F3 review. I'm disappointed you don't get to enjoy the stock grind anymore, though.
9:07 getoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetputofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetputofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetputofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetputofmyhead
8:20 nobody gonna mention how movie-like that takedown was?
Defyn my guy, any chance you can revisit the Mirage 2000C in this meta? Having 24nmi range on the 530Ds is finally having a noticeable effect on winning against the Fulcrums in BVR.
we don't speak american here
Wtf is nmi
@Arya Sidauruk Uhm, Never used that in my life
Can you put that in croissants per baguette please?
@Arya Sidauruk in Europe the Km is used more, but yeah
THE GERMAN MIG-29 IS REAAAAL
THE FULCRUM
THE FULCRUM IS REEEEEAAAL
19:10
Bro got that dehydrated laugh, guys bully him about it
Man you are so handsome, right, and absolutely cool keep doing what your doing
I have an F-16 but not an MiG-29... but I am always amazed at how responsive the MiG-29 seems by comparison. The F-16 feels like a brick at high speed, and while it is generally good at defensive flying, you need to often pop the airbrakes so you can pull hard enough to avoid guns/missiles. Watching the MiG-29's flight performance and missiles just make it seem like it is a far superior plane in almost every way.
The snail hates all NATO nations and buffs Russian vehicles.
The f-16 has a modeled g-limiter iirc while most other planes don't which makes it seem brick-like. If taken to the same liberties as other jets (NATO included) it should be significantly more nimble
@@paraweld9838 Agreed, the g-limiter might make sense if they are trying to be realistic as possible... but when every other plane can pull insane g's it becomes a real balance issue. Like when I fly my F-14, its performance is obviously not meant to be as good as the F-16, but that thing can do crazy maneuvers when you stomp on the elevator.
This is not to say flying the F-16 is like suffering or anything, its a good plane, but it does feel like having one arm tied behind my back.
@@paraweld9838 It's not a G-limiter, I can go to 13g just fine, it's an AOA limiter that becomes lest problematic at low speed since the F-16's yaw, pitch, and elevator authority at low speed was/is still overpeforming.
If you duel/test FM you'd know the F-16 could beat literally everything in a 1v1, now the MiG-29 can actually win since their AOA is about the same.
The MiG-29 is still hilariously underpeforming, but what can you do.
@@jaek__ The MiG-29 and F-16 aren't really under/over performing anymore.
The only FM problems right now are that MiG-29 cant do a proper cobra (which in dogfights really doesn't matter since you'd need to turn off instructor and if you do that theres a very big risk of just going into a flat-spin) and that the F-16 cant pull 9Gs at mach 1.1+ even though it should be able to IRL.
When it comes to dogfights, both fighters are performing exactly how they should. The MiG-29 is better in the first few turns but in sustained dogfights, it doesn't do well. And thats exactly how it should go as the F-16 is one of the best rate fighters even in modern times.
10:24 You need to put the crosshair directly on the plane, not lead with it. It's only useful in situation when the target is pulling consistently.
You can see during the video, he tried under leading, over leading, puting crossair on top of the target... nothing works unless airplane its flying straight :(
@@HelmutGaming well high aspect shots are a bad idea to begin with. I’ve found it very useful especially at longer ranges.
If they’re not flying straight, then you actually *do* want to lead it either under or over
@@HelmutGaming The crosshair has to be exactly center mass. In the clip, even though he had the crosshair on the plane for a split second, the plane rolled out of the way before the bullets hit and they went over the wing root.
@@HelmutGamingthat was his fault. if he just put it and kept it right on the target, it would have been fine and he would have got the kill. i have it figured out pretty well. it works 90% of the time.
Wow I’m impressed with your aviation skills I learned a lot just by watching.
Me who is getting this one someday: I am very happy to be blessed by Defyn liking it
MIG [GER] Say that to your black friend all together
That mig 27k 13:43 came clutch
Those afterburners are massive
2:25 I believe you’re using the radar gun sight wrong. Let the target fly into it and then shoot.
Considering your mastery in aiming however I dont’t believe that you’d ever rly need it. Except in situations where you’re in cloudd I guess
Love the vids daifun, love you and sorry about the cat
MLD: Im bad at dogfight
Defyn: Ssame
You fly like a bird man, great video again!
I am spading the Mig-29A (GER) right now and gotta say even stock its a beast and with all the performance upgrades I actually won several 7 kill matches yesterday. Hands down best plane in WT right now. My only gripe with it is that the radar scale scope does not change and the refresh rate on it is pretty slow.
F-14 comes in second place and Mig-23MLA would take the third IMO.
I don't like the F-16. I spaded the american one, played the Chinese one but they all feel like big meh. Even had more fun in J-7E in full uptier than F-16.
I think the F-16 would fare much much better in 4v4 matches as you could focus more on sustained ratefighting and not worry about getting third partied. But right now? When they changed matches to 16v16? In these 32 player matches, F-16 without FOX3 is completely outclassed.
Actshually 🤓 MiG-29 9.12 and 9.13a are both considered "MiG-29A" by NATO and the 9.13S (not in game) is the MiG-29S, but the soviets themselves did not call them MiG-29A S ect 🤓🤓
Copium , for rating mig-23 higher than f-16 , you must lack quite a few braincells
Radar controls in general have me hella annoyed...
I can move my Radar pitch but ONLY if I, instead of fixing it to my nose, fix it to a vertical point which it will always aim at.... wtf? just let me keep it fixed like normal but move the pitch independently....
@@WeebLord69 >braincells
Hello average US main plebbitor with below average sense of humor. If you'd play and spade the planes yourself, instead of actually playing only USA, you'd know.
@@TheDAWinz I'm pretty sure that MiG-29C (C being the cyrillic letter for S) is a semi-official designation in some form in the russian air force. Maybe they just call them Mig-29 for convenience but I would be surprised if the manufacturer doesn't acknowledge that version, but still, being a relatively minor variant, I guess most have been upgraded to SMT
Coming back to the idea of separating flares and chaffs, it's a very good idea but I'm afraid Gajin won't implement it for one very simple reason: newer players won't be able to distinguish SAHR from IR etc, so it will be an obvious hurdle not technical but experience, which would be related in the game.
Btw nice video :^)
Simple: make it an option that creates two new binds instead of one countermeasure bind.
If they don’t end up adding it, I can guarantee that is *not* the reason lol. Gaijin doesn’t cater this game around the lowest common denominator.
They could easily add a toggle button, allowing you to choose between flares, chaff, or flares + chaff just like the “switch secondary weapons” keybind for missiles, bombs, and rockets or “switch primary weapons” for different calibers of guns. It’s not unprecedented, this would be easy to add and it wouldn’t even effect the noobs.
Newer players shouldn't be playing top tier.
@@Xiphactinus this. Unfortunately that can of worms has already been opened with rank 7 premiums, but the best mitigation for it is to expand or add a new air tutorial for high ranks, since the current tutorial puts you in a biplane and only teaches you that, nothing for the vastly different strategy and equipment involved at the high ranks
@Xiphactinus That argument doesn't really hold any water when the gameplay at top tier is entirely different to the rest of the game. Even if a player is not new to war thunder, they'll be new to top tier, and thus not have the experience with different types of missiles that only show up in later ranks of the tech tree.
Defyn, please make a video on the F-16 and it’s FM. I don’t understand why the fulcrum keeps getting buffed, while the 16 is so limited.
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bbbbut russian bias doesn't exist in a russian made game :D
Because Gaijin gotta keep both Nation Played, if you look closely you can see that One update USA is better and the next one Russia is better
Cause russia and their shitty technology needs to feel superior in a game because they cant achieve this in real life
@@tryharderpls the MiG 29 is great irl
Stock grind in 16 vs 16 is so painful
9:07 when the F-4S is sus
*Vineboom*
*Amogus trap remix 1 hour loop*
The F-104J at 12.0 though. That is painful, having no countermeasures against all these monsters.
it’s at 10.7 and can reach a max of 11.7 not 12.0 but i agree completely, it’s suffering big time
@@amazingjarl7147 there’s occasions where vehicles can get uptiered beyond one br bracket. There was an F-104J in this video that killed an F-16.
@@hitomaru12 he could have been in a squad?
@@hitomaru12 nope, its impossible in normal matchmaking, you can only be match +/- 1.0 BR. the 104J is probably in a squad with an 11.0 or higher
@@hitomaru12 no you can't get uptiered beyond 1, only possible artificially through squads
I hope the f16 gets a flight model update it's doable now but knowing what if can be is upsetting
Been waiting for this.
Your video title makes me want a German version of that song, kinda like the german version of The house of the rising sun.
I've found for the gun lead I lead it a little bit in front of the target and then fire and stop moving it forward so the enemy flys into it
I wish you good luck for the F3 video.
Idk what you on about on R60Ms being less flare resistant than 9Ls after they’re flare resistance got nerfed, I can be full AB in my MiG29 and dump 1 flare and the 9L will go for the flare, but when I fire R60Ms they will ignore flares way more than my 9Ls do now
I’ve noticed that too. R-60Ms have unironically been harder for me to flare
@@collander7766 exactly my point
War Thunder players and anecdotal evidence
Hey Defyn... do you want to experience a supremely powerful, fun and unusual, weapon system at high tier? Use exclusively zunis with an air fuse against aircraft in air rb. It's truly a hidden art to master.
9:08 AMONG US
19:00 it's soo annoying that people stealing someone that stall,spin or on fire
Goddamm I can't wait to get this plane for Air Sim
I found the gunsight to be pretty reliable with IRST
I anyways am stock and all the kills I got so far were with the guns instead of the 2 R-60MK's xD
9:07 PTSD
I started playing this week and these videos helped me a lot, even as I don't have jets, yet I still watch them
I know aim sensitivity is very different and depending on the person and mouse and dpi is going to be different
but could you at least do a quick aim settings run down so me as a new player know what to use, currently I'm in stock sensitivity with delay
So High
SO HIGH
@@BollBott so high
Up up to the sky
SOO HIGHH
@@N1mr ayeeee
Can you take a look at the J7E after you finish reviewing these new planes? It would be interesting to see how it performs now in the new top tier
I literally got so scared at 9:07
Soo hiiiigh...
But since im so early, would you redo many of the german planes? You been saying alot of planes been bad, meanwhile Tier IV and V germany LITERALLY HAVE 1 "Decent" PLANE EACH, while being extremely being downgraded in 6.0-6.7. I arleady got the G.91 R/3 and that been helping alot to grind the tree but I do wonder if you have any opinion on the matter...
we need some epic Tornado F3 gameplay
Hey defyn it’s hard finding any current videos of the griffon spitfires, thinking about doing one soon?
I love Gaijin all the bugs with both Tornados and Gaijin have the devs working on a jet that's already very playable.
I personally feel like the aim 9Ls are worst atm, never can get a good use out of them unless they aren’t obviously paying attention or stock. Also the radar/ sparrows for F16 and etc feel really bad then it probably should be.
The Falcon is in a weird spot (and is in almost every way outclassed by the MiG-29 now...), it probably needs some love along with the F-14. And Mirage. Maybe the tornado too but I know nothing about it. Also the Aim-7M's are performing totally wrong lol.
R60Ms are far worse
@@AlexVanChezlaw there both just as bad but R60ms are more reactive of the rail so you can get more risky launches off
@@AlexVanChezlaw I don't know, both r60m's and aim-9l's have comparable flare resistance but 60m's turn much faster off the rail and can be used much more reliably at closer range as well as in headon jousts since there is less time to react. The 9L's are good at longer range shots but those offer more reaction time. I personally prefer 60m's having used both.
i really cant tell if this guy is doing a voice over or a live commentary
Voice over
when defyn say video is over 😭
I think this lead indicator should be switchable on and off. There have been so many moments where I wanted to shoot a priority behind another target with a missile but it was aimlocked to that target so that I missed someone else that was passing in front of me. Also works really bad on headons where you want to land a missile hit but being ready with the gun just in case it misses.
It is switchable on and off, you switch your radar on or off.
Yeah no s**t. Not like there comes moments where you need to shoot a missile and use the gun simultaneously on different targets. Thanks for the great tip, smartass.
if we're going for realism that shot is actually too easy to do currently, the real mig 29 needs a button press to change between being able to shoot cannons or missiles
I think the gun computer only calculates velocity, not ballistics, so lead the computer in terms of bullet drop
The Mig29 is real???
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER
I was test flying a plane and I used radar gun sites for the first time and I felt like they didn’t lead enough they were always a little slow in predicting speed I’m still in early German Jets I have the Mig 15 So I’ve been going fast a lot recently but even going slow in a climbing shot it was short
18:00 Chaff, flare and fuel sliders w h e n, gaijin?
For the gunsight i use lead a little on the nose of a plane if they are turning into me
Things I‘ve learned today. The F-16 is a fucking boat…. and since Defyn is enjoying his time in top tier, it‘s better to not go there anytime soon. I don‘t want to end up in a video while getting 360 noscoped from a MiG-29
The mig 29 is prob one of the top if not then the top best looking top tier jet in the game to me
M2K?
@@cutthroat795 what's that
Why does it have the same radar though? Didn't the German fulcrum have a nerfed radar?
It just couldnt use AWACS data link
@@M0LOCK neither could that particular version of the mig29 in the ussr tree. That was added when the upgraded radar for the mig29s, which currently is only on the yak141.
Can we get much higher ?? Sooo highhh
Defyn ive been struggling with dog fighting in the F-14, any chance you can drop another video on it?
Use your wing sweeps
@@schlong8276 Even using manual wing sweep and keeping them all the way out it doesnt feel consistent. Seems like i still just bleed speed even worse when i use flaps and end up slow and losing the rate fight against jets with much weaker rates like mig 21s
@@MrRobschnieder Depends on fuel state and payload. Never take vertical fights since the 14A has abysmally weak engines. If you'd like I'm more than happy to help teach :)
@@covenantslayergaming6362 Yes pls!
@@MrRobschnieder Alrighty, I'll be on in ~3ish hours so I'll respond to ya here once im good to go if you're up by then
9:10 amogus😮
After flying the German MiG-29 a bit and having flown the F-16/F-14 pretty extensively to good effect, I honestly think the fixed FM MiG-29 should have it's R-27ER's removed. The base 27's are already very competent missiles and the ER's just put every other missile to shame, even the Phoenix to a great extent. It's either that or the F-16A gets early amraams but I hardly think that would do well to balance everything else out.
TL;DR - MiG-29 has such good missiles and flight performance that it probably doesn't need the 27ER's to still do well. Those were just a lazy addition.
I dont think ERs should be removed. The normal R27s have abysmal acceleration and way less range, basically completely removing the BVR capabilities of MiG-29. They should rather buff sparrows or add the earliest AMRAAMs with low range to balance out BVR.
@@Julio_Tortillia I was originally thinking they should add AIM-120A's to the falcon but I don't necessarily want more powercreep to ruin other nations. Also, the regular r27r's may be slower but they were still very effective in my experience. They had pretty good range. The mig-29's radar is definitely good enough now that the base 27r's have some reach comparable to other contemporaries.
Not just the 30mm, i have been getting hits with the shvaks, NR-23s and mg151s aswell, WTF they did with gun damage?
would u say the mig 29's gun is much better than the other gun that is on the mig 23 and 21, i like to gunfight but gunfighting in the mig 23 and 21 is hell
The amount of 40k r27er kills I’ve gotten now
u need to set you gun targeting distance to none if you want the radar gun sight to be accurate
Молодец, хорошо играешь 🤗
do you have a squadron that i could join? btw you make very gave videos
I'm sorry for this dumb question, but what it is the "radar gun sight"?
Also, more fuel means more weight that means slower turn rates?
Could you make a video about some Spitfire?
hey you said we should be using ground target belts in "sky guardians air overview" video but this videos desc says that you use air target belts. btw can you make a detailed video explaining what belts to use after the update?
Ah typo, i am using ground
i dont have the mig 29 yet so i cant see if its true but a friend of mine told me that the hmd does not allow you for a lot of room to lock someone in anymore
Before this update shooting people on the deck wasn't an issue. Did they change something so that now it is?
I've seen it in several videos at this point but what is the purpose of pinging the ground?
where is my tornado AughhDV video defyn?
Can we get much higheeer!
Hey Defyn, this is a bit of a weird question, but is there any mode where I can switch off the Pulse doppler in the 29?
I kinda hate that my 27ERs get notched at higher altitude, so I would love to just have a normal pulse mode for these situations, but from what I saw, that is not actually possible, right?
The MiG 29 was only pulse Doppler so mo
could you play the sweedish j22 b at 3.7 just for a change back to props
9:07
more often than not, my team dies withing the first 25 seconds of combat, and im left to 1v8 or more. its like my team is always full if new players. no matter what nation. (i have all planes)
Top tier premiums probably aren't helping with that. :(
can we get much higherr 🎶🎶
So high
I always use the 24T over the 24R on my mig 23 unless it's those big f*** off maps.
When they announced radar gun sights i thought it was gonna be more useful like ground radar
Can you play the J2M5? They butcher the 30mm Ho 5 this patch. Wanna see your opinion on it now
Fair and balanced 30mm that’s take 6 hits to kill a p38 now
@@ervin7178 balance my ass, killing p38 with japanese 50 cal is faster than with 30mm of the same Ho family
Theres a control your using. I use to use it but forgot the name of the control . When pulling a high G turn there is a control you can use to keep your turn with out blacking out (you kinda straighten out for a moment) whats the name of that control?
Its literally just pitching down lol
@@DEFYN yeah I know that, but there’s a bind to do it, is that the name of the bind?
For some reason, other than the odd crazy undodgable R27, I’ve actually been doing pretty well in the J7E at top tier lately even though I only got it about 2 weeks ago. PL5-Bs certainly help of course, but I’ve had a whole bunch of dogfights against 12.0s and I literally haven’t lost one for some reason, and I feel like I probably should have by now. Is the J7E still the strongest 1v1 plane in the game, or is it just that I’ve played against 12.0 “noobs” every single time? 🤷♂️😂
It’s probably the best top tier dog fighter jet in the game. If you can approach the 4th gen without dying and they started to dog fight with you, it’s normal that you destroyed them
@@OzzyTheWild Ehhh, I mean you're still going to lose to F-16's and MiG-29's in the dogfight pretty regularly if they know what they are doing, it's a misnomer to call it the 'best' by any stretch of the matter, the Falcon, Fulcrum, and even Tomcat will rinse you.
@@jaek__ considering that it’s a 11.0 and that you will fight in 10.0 40% of the time. It’s pretty impressive
@@OzzyTheWild Yes but you called it the 'best' top tier dogfighter, if you even consider 11.0 top tier, in its own BR it's the best, but not compared to the Viper, Fulcrum, or Tomcat.
@@jaek__ Imo, the j7e in a 1v1 is pretty hard to destroy. The f16 and Mig 29 can fight with it, but he j7e have a insane turn rate. Again, its only my personal opinion. Ive the f16 and tried the mig 29 on a friend account for multiple hours.
i wanna ask you something defyn ?
on any aircraft is really using flaps on any aircraft are not recommended or like not using them at all ?
It’s situational, and depends on the aircraft. Often you don’t want to get so slow that you need flaps
@@Johntube648 so uh should i use them at like a high speed ?
@@Johntube648 or aka at mid to high speed ?
@@flak8842 Bro the answer is not as simple as a yes or no, its situational. I advise you to look at defyns tutorials
@@Deathwing21 I will take a closer look at it again thanks for the advice
09:06 Omg Among Us
Guys I need an advice.
What should I unlock and play after my first jet f84b??
do a vid using under tierd planes and what you have to do it get kills using it
im surprised kim jong un has a f16 I thought they were still using early cold war stuff
Beaufighter video when