I didn't realize the sophistication of this engine. The valves and timing are constantly adjusting to the type of driving that is being done. And it does it so well. My 2009 gives a consistent 24 mpg driving in city traffic to and from work.
I own a BMW 3 series saloon and a Honda Accord Tourer. Believe me, something breaks on the BMW every few months and it NEVER goes through an MOT without needing some work. The Honda just keeps going, last two years no repairs, only services. BMW can only dream of that sort of reliability! The BMW is much more fun to drive though so it just depends on what your priorities are.
@jugbugz dude the integra DC5 is a type-R engine, the non-typeR k20a engines are bolted on the civics, if you want to know more about the DC5 check in any honda club websites. if incase you dont know, all top end model integra's carry a Type-R badges, 1st gen integra which is the DC1 had a type-R b16a engine i think, the DC2 had a type-r b18 engine, and now the most latest model the DC5 carry a k20a type-r engine.
@DJOgurchik nope. it's the direct injected i-VTEC engine found in the 1st-Gen Stream...isn't sold here in the States but Asians get that little minivan.
@jbzEK9 because the 4g63 that im talking about is the 4g63 of the galant, which is completely different from the 4g63 of the evo or the eclipse. or the 3sge, which is fitted to the mr2(nonturbo). im a great fan of honda cars. but im open minded on other engines of other brands. Yes honda engines are good, i applaud to that, but there are other engines that can equally match it.
Dear sir, Please could you explain the iVTEC system specific setup on J35 Accord engines 8th gen + up? Answering: 1- if it has any affect on performance like usual VTECs? 2- How it really works to disable cylinder banks? 3-If it reduce compression during could start or whats happen during start making sound much higher and lower down after some seconds?
@jbzEK9 dude the DC1 was a guess, i dont know the engine in it, but its good to inform me about what engine it is. but none the less i guessed on what the type of engine that the Dc1 has...
@jbzEK9 w8 a min? why did the debate moved to the Type-R? what i was explaining before is that the ivtec has flaws, yes the i might compare it to the 4age or the 3sge of the mr2's or trueno's or the 4g63 of the galant or the 4b11 of the non-evo lancer. then it may have a hard time, because, i also have a 2.0 civic with i vtec on it, and im sad to say that its trying to hard to be everything.
@VIPERSRT10SC no importa que motor produce mas hp, lo que importa es qual es mas eresistible caros europeos son echos de mejor qualidad que los hoda o japones. y lo que la cago del 2.5 es que el intak manefold es echo de plastico i bien angosto.
@jbzEK9 besides, you made the statement that" because your DC5 is not a type-R, how would you that my DC5 is not a TYPE-R have you even met be before. i clearly check the papers before i signed it. because in my country. the imported cars have different plate no.s than local ones. i even bought a conversion kit, so that i would make it left hand drive, because it was originally right hand drive.
@jbzEK9 i didnt got off topic dude. i merely named the cars because the engines that i mentioned was bolted in them. if you got confused about it, then it would be my bad. im not afraid of admitting something that basically my fault. but i merely pointed out that, there are some areas on which the honda engines cant match up with other branded engines, like engine noise, fuel economy, and other factors.
@jbzEK9 let me give you a concrete example on what i am blabbering about. the Porsche put the cayman in production to fill the gap between the boxster and the 911's. why? because the they found out that the cayman has a different kind of market on which the boxster and the 911 cant go. its also the same with other brands.
@jbzEK9 because you might think that, im only talking about the performance stuffs. but im actually posting about everything that has to do with the engine, because honda engines dont have that sense fluidity, but the honda engine makes up with how urgent and responsive it is. well fuel economy, well i dont know about that, the K and B series are thirsty bastards, i cant even make it go 10KM/L with my DC5.
@jbzEK9 and again, im comparing what sport cars honda's have and the other car brands have. you have been mislead again, dont tell me that the integra wasnt built not compete with the silvia's and eclipse? the evo and the STI can be compared by the s2000's and the NSX. its basically a mindset dude. its not about the FWD and N/A or 4WD and turbos. im talking about a different kind of class. a class rank of A-D.
@jbzEK9 i can compare it to that because these are its main rivals. if im gonna compare the Type-r version. then i might as well compare it to 4b11 of the evo, or the sr20 of the silvia's or the 3sgte of the turbo mr2's. because basically the Type-r is the race the race version, then its logical to compare to it's race version competitors. dude you just got mislead to my 1st post. if you have to read it more closely.
I just dont get Honda....If they are certainly a company with great potential for creating high performance car that is reliable and with best engine technology out there. but they stopped productions on NSX, RSX and so many great cars. Only performance base car Honda produces today is the Civic Si which isnt a bad car but Honda could do so much better so why not?
v-tec is found in the older engines like the B16 and H22, and i-vtec is found in newer engines like the R18 and K20...i know this is not a good explanation but if u want to know the real difference do some research cause is to long and complicated to explain
i think of the honda vtec engine as a good engine but not great. i myself own a integra DC5. i think of it as a good car but not a great one. the fact is there are other engines that can match up to my car's engine. for example the 4g63 of mitsubishi and the 3sge of the toyota.
@jbzEK9 the honda has the civic, and the toyota has the corolla, or the ford has the focus. now do you understand what class i am posting about. this is why i hate forums or posting threads. because i can't fully get through the person im debating to. and also dude, you got to have a openmindness about this kind of things because, sometimes you post something that i am not talking about. im not here to make a flamewar to anybody,
And then they killed this engine..... They went with the angled injector on the current Earth Dreams engines. I wonder why they didn't go with the center injector again. Maybe there were issues?
@jbzEK9 dude i know the k20 engines the 2 type S and a type-r. anyways im not here to bicker about about our engines. im only here to post some facts about our engines. im not here to "troll" or to start a "flamebait" in this posting thread.
@jbzEK9 and furthermore. this is why i hate people who are single minded on 1 single class and brand of engine, and brushes away the joys of understanding what the other engines of other brands are like. and YES i know that honda cars are king of N/A FWD class. even the astra vxr cant keep up with it.
@jbzEK9 driving habits meaning, there would be no-A/C while driving. late braking, easing up on the throttle. you may know the fucking fuel economy facts that the car companies portray on tv ads and brochure, but apply it on a day to day basis, then it would be irrelevant and useless.
@jbzEK9 what even makes you say that anyway? is it because that in my 1st post i didnt wrote TYPE-R on it. dude clearly you were the one at fault here, again, admit something that you are wrong to. i admitted that i have gone off topic. but the root of all that was you, you clearly made assumptions on somethings you have clarified yet. why is ASKING really that hard on people these days? will you lose your pride over something that is trivial to others?
@jbzEK9 so its best to ask before you blabber out stuff that im not really talking about. "Thats just embarrassing dude. Your knowledge of hondas is like less than 2% of other people of whos knows what is good tech. " you see your message, i didn't discriminate you 1 bit at my posts. ASK 1st on what some1 is talking about before you make harsh remarks on some1.
@jbzEK9 and i beg the differ on your reaction about the fuel economy. this 1.8 liter in real life or daily situation is not the most efficient 1.8. the vvti of the corolla is more fuel efficient than this. why do you actually believe that you believe the f*cking ads on what this car companies portray. yes you can get the figures that they presented, but it would seriously be different to persons driving habits.
@jbzEK9 you see the difference between the ranks that im talking about then the class that your talking about. car companies set different kinds of class on which the people can choose from. Again you have been mislead again.
@jbzEK9 once again you are mislead from what i am saying. YES! honda engines have flaws, but did i say that the other engines are perfect? common dude your interpreting something that im not talking about. YES the honda engines are good in some areas, but its not all good, and yes some other branded engines are good in place where the honda engines cant compete. but at the same time its the other way around. the other branded engines cant compete on some places where the engines are good at.
@jbzEK9 now answer this 1 true question that has been bugging ever since this debate.(im using caps so that you can see my question) " WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THAT MY INTEGRA DC5 IS NOT A TYPE-R ON YOUR 1ST REPLY ON MY 1ST POST ON THIS VIDEO THREAD?" before all this sh*t went lose, answer that 1 question.
I didn't realize the sophistication of this engine. The valves and timing are constantly adjusting to the type of driving that is being done. And it does it so well. My 2009 gives a consistent 24 mpg driving in city traffic to and from work.
yes honda make brilliant engines but the music in the background is even better LOL :-D
I own a BMW 3 series saloon and a Honda Accord Tourer. Believe me, something breaks on the BMW every few months and it NEVER goes through an MOT without needing some work. The Honda just keeps going, last two years no repairs, only services. BMW can only dream of that sort of reliability! The BMW is much more fun to drive though so it just depends on what your priorities are.
honda has best enginers!!
Always making better engines. Love it.
@jugbugz
dude the integra DC5 is a type-R engine, the non-typeR k20a engines are bolted on the civics, if you want to know more about the DC5 check in any honda club websites. if incase you dont know, all top end model integra's carry a Type-R badges, 1st gen integra which is the DC1 had a type-R b16a engine i think, the DC2 had a type-r b18 engine, and now the most latest model the DC5 carry a k20a type-r engine.
@DJOgurchik nope. it's the direct injected i-VTEC engine found in the 1st-Gen Stream...isn't sold here in the States but Asians get that little minivan.
@casoig on a redtop type R k20 it engages at 5800.
but this is a blacktop and is used for economy, which probly means it engages at 6000 or later.
Dude Honda has the best reliable engines..
it also supports a lots of modification without...err....blowing an "ENGINE"
Yo Honda,your i-VTEC I engine will be a match for VW's,Audi's,Skoda's and SEAT's FSI engine.
honda makes the best engines!
@jbzEK9 because the 4g63 that im talking about is the 4g63 of the galant, which is completely different from the 4g63 of the evo or the eclipse. or the 3sge, which is fitted to the mr2(nonturbo). im a great fan of honda cars. but im open minded on other engines of other brands. Yes honda engines are good, i applaud to that, but there are other engines that can equally match it.
This engine is in the civic si 02+ and rsx 02+ since it's a k20. It has 160-210 hp as far as I know
I don;t see many cars with tat engine.But pretty cool.Cooler than FSI.
the background techno is hilarious
Dear sir,
Please could you explain the iVTEC system specific setup on J35 Accord engines 8th gen + up? Answering: 1- if it has any affect on performance like usual VTECs?
2- How it really works to disable cylinder banks?
3-If it reduce compression during could start or whats happen during start making sound much higher and lower down after some seconds?
@jbzEK9 dude the DC1 was a guess, i dont know the engine in it, but its good to inform me about what engine it is. but none the less i guessed on what the type of engine that the Dc1 has...
@jbzEK9 w8 a min? why did the debate moved to the Type-R? what i was explaining before is that the ivtec has flaws, yes the i might compare it to the 4age or the 3sge of the mr2's or trueno's or the 4g63 of the galant or the 4b11 of the non-evo lancer. then it may have a hard time, because, i also have a 2.0 civic with i vtec on it, and im sad to say that its trying to hard to be everything.
@VIPERSRT10SC no importa que motor produce mas hp, lo que importa es qual es mas eresistible caros europeos son echos de mejor qualidad que los hoda o japones. y lo que la cago del 2.5 es que el intak manefold es echo de plastico i bien angosto.
Do you know when the vtec kicks in for the 2.0?
Reply asap
@jbzEK9 besides, you made the statement that" because your DC5 is not a type-R, how would you that my DC5 is not a TYPE-R have you even met be before. i clearly check the papers before i signed it. because in my country. the imported cars have different plate no.s than local ones. i even bought a conversion kit, so that i would make it left hand drive, because it was originally right hand drive.
@jbzEK9 i didnt got off topic dude. i merely named the cars because the engines that i mentioned was bolted in them. if you got confused about it, then it would be my bad. im not afraid of admitting something that basically my fault. but i merely pointed out that, there are some areas on which the honda engines cant match up with other branded engines, like engine noise, fuel economy, and other factors.
@RussianPIMP64 maybe this one is painted...lol...you're right 6000 for regular Si engine.
@jbzEK9 let me give you a concrete example on what i am blabbering about. the Porsche put the cayman in production to fill the gap between the boxster and the 911's. why? because the they found out that the cayman has a different kind of market on which the boxster and the 911 cant go. its also the same with other brands.
Damn if only Honda made V8's
@jbzEK9 because you might think that, im only talking about the performance stuffs. but im actually posting about everything that has to do with the engine, because honda engines dont have that sense fluidity, but the honda engine makes up with how urgent and responsive it is. well fuel economy, well i dont know about that, the K and B series are thirsty bastards, i cant even make it go 10KM/L with my DC5.
honda light years ahead of the rest.
This engine hasn't been released yet, has it? I mean, there is no car in the market which has this engine...
@jbzEK9 and again, im comparing what sport cars honda's have and the other car brands have. you have been mislead again, dont tell me that the integra wasnt built not compete with the silvia's and eclipse? the evo and the STI can be compared by the s2000's and the NSX. its basically a mindset dude. its not about the FWD and N/A or 4WD and turbos. im talking about a different kind of class. a class rank of A-D.
is this the k20?
This is diesel?
Honda i-VTEC I Engine
HONDA RULES!!!
Accord 6speeds respect it I vetec 3.5
you can tell by the statistics that this is the k20a3 lol.
@jbzEK9 i can compare it to that because these are its main rivals. if im gonna compare the Type-r version. then i might as well compare it to 4b11 of the evo, or the sr20 of the silvia's or the 3sgte of the turbo mr2's. because basically the Type-r is the race the race version, then its logical to compare to it's race version competitors. dude you just got mislead to my 1st post. if you have to read it more closely.
I just dont get Honda....If they are certainly a company with great potential for creating high performance car that is reliable and with best engine technology out there. but they stopped productions on NSX, RSX and so many great cars. Only performance base car Honda produces today is the Civic Si which isnt a bad car but Honda could do so much better so why not?
v-tec is found in the older engines like the B16 and H22, and i-vtec is found in newer engines like the R18 and K20...i know this is not a good explanation but if u want to know the real difference do some research cause is to long and complicated to explain
Honda hayat onda
@jalalpurjattan 5800rpm
i think of the honda vtec engine as a good engine but not great. i myself own a integra DC5. i think of it as a good car but not a great one. the fact is there are other engines that can match up to my car's engine. for example the 4g63 of mitsubishi and the 3sge of the toyota.
@jbzEK9 the honda has the civic, and the toyota has the corolla, or the ford has the focus. now do you understand what class i am posting about. this is why i hate forums or posting threads. because i can't fully get through the person im debating to. and also dude, you got to have a openmindness about this kind of things because, sometimes you post something that i am not talking about. im not here to make a flamewar to anybody,
And then they killed this engine.....
They went with the angled injector on the current Earth Dreams engines. I wonder why they didn't go with the center injector again. Maybe there were issues?
yeh, too efficient
ya for the price of a small fortune vs a few grand
what doesnt honda master....
vtec kicked in at 4k
@jbzEK9 dude i know the k20 engines the 2 type S and a type-r. anyways im not here to bicker about about our engines. im only here to post some facts about our engines. im not here to "troll" or to start a "flamebait" in this posting thread.
65 parts gas to one oxygen. i hope its the otherway around cuz thats horrable
I-Vtec, Do you? LOL
@jbzEK9 and furthermore. this is why i hate people who are single minded on 1 single class and brand of engine, and brushes away the joys of understanding what the other engines of other brands are like. and YES i know that honda cars are king of N/A FWD class. even the astra vxr cant keep up with it.
GS-R killer! lol
@jbzEK9 driving habits meaning, there would be no-A/C while driving. late braking, easing up on the throttle. you may know the fucking fuel economy facts that the car companies portray on tv ads and brochure, but apply it on a day to day basis, then it would be irrelevant and useless.
WoWWWWWW..O_o
@jbzEK9 if you cant accept the fact in some places in this thread that you are wrong, then i dont really care. then more power to you.
@jbzEK9 what even makes you say that anyway? is it because that in my 1st post i didnt wrote TYPE-R on it. dude clearly you were the one at fault here, again, admit something that you are wrong to. i admitted that i have gone off topic. but the root of all that was you, you clearly made assumptions on somethings you have clarified yet. why is ASKING really that hard on people these days? will you lose your pride over something that is trivial to others?
@jalalpurjattan 6000
@jbzEK9 so its best to ask before you blabber out stuff that im not really talking about. "Thats just embarrassing dude. Your knowledge of hondas is like less than 2% of other people of whos knows what is good tech. " you see your message, i didn't discriminate you 1 bit at my posts. ASK 1st on what some1 is talking about before you make harsh remarks on some1.
NSX
And yet they can't win in formula one....
@jbzEK9 and i beg the differ on your reaction about the fuel economy. this 1.8 liter in real life or daily situation is not the most efficient 1.8. the vvti of the corolla is more fuel efficient than this. why do you actually believe that you believe the f*cking ads on what this car companies portray. yes you can get the figures that they presented, but it would seriously be different to persons driving habits.
@jbzEK9 you see the difference between the ranks that im talking about then the class that your talking about. car companies set different kinds of class on which the people can choose from. Again you have been mislead again.
@jbzEK9 once again you are mislead from what i am saying. YES! honda engines have flaws, but did i say that the other engines are perfect? common dude your interpreting something that im not talking about. YES the honda engines are good in some areas, but its not all good, and yes some other branded engines are good in place where the honda engines cant compete. but at the same time its the other way around. the other branded engines cant compete on some places where the engines are good at.
@jbzEK9 now answer this 1 true question that has been bugging ever since this debate.(im using caps so that you can see my question) " WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THAT MY INTEGRA DC5 IS NOT A TYPE-R ON YOUR 1ST REPLY ON MY 1ST POST ON THIS VIDEO THREAD?" before all this sh*t went lose, answer that 1 question.
@jugbugz if you dont believe me then check this webpage about DC5 type-r.
tripleW.j-garage.com/honda/integra/dc5.htm
@omarbon23 lol best engineers, volkswago make better engines, like the 2.5 5cylinder engine, and they make bugatti, lambos and audi!!!!
peak @6300 rpm. That is not proper V-tec YO!
FSI sucks, need a turbo to get the same power of a k20 series
VW engines sucks overall, there is no comparison between K-series and FSI engines, theres is like a century of R&D between those.
Honda is shit. My 2jz will wreck shit on any vtec
AND YOU ARE A BULLSHIT!
Honda i-VTEC I Engine