@@onelittlewanderer5342 good job , I do same process but manually, just for more performance, please try to fix the brackets & the window's engine under the mean spoiler, maybe better looking..
this is the difference of marketing and playing to youtube's algorithm. Bet his views would explode if he made the thumbnails youtube friendly with crazy facial expressions in the foreground, posted on a peak viewer schedule, etc
looks great however there is a better way of making the DRS mechanism. rather than attaching the motor on the supports and ruining the airflow, you can make each support a two part piece and then having a pulley system inside and a mini latch inside the wing, then a motor attached to the chassis. use a strong string to attach the latch to the motor. I can make a CAD model and send you what i mean if you want
cool stuff. here's an idea for your car with the wing. tie it into sensors on the suspension, and also steering angle, and brake sensors. When you are going straight, reduce the downforce for better top end, then when you enter a corner, or brake hard, the wing generates more down force, or as an air brake. might shave some time off each lap.
This kinda stuff is on the edge of dangerous though, you need to have stable aero before you brake or turn. It would be much safer to have it tied to GPS, so you could have the wing set and stable before you need it. And then you can have GPS set your diff, brake balance, roll bars, and all your maps corner by corner(all the stuff that's illegal in F1).
Killing it you guys. What great content. But I’d have to agree with what another commenter said. Both of you are great but you need to up your safety gear. methyl ethyl ketone peroxide hardener for your fiber glass is no joke. My uncle developed mental issues after being an auto body guy for years. He would get the sensation of falling down and endless hole. Respirators suck but slowly harming yourself sucks worse. He had to retire due to his health problems. The wing looks amazing though.
@One Little Wanderer absolutely! Plus respirators are pretty cheap. 3m make some at a good price point. Those red checks, light headedness and feeling of blah after breathing resin vapors is your body saying wear a mask. For sanding N95 is just fine. Love watching you guys do your thing just can’t be messing around with those chemicals. That chlorinated brake cleaner is pretty nasty stuff to.
Ello, I’m designing my own electric open wheel, single seater and hopefully when I get the money I can actually make it, your videos are so inspiring! Keep it up
Did you consider making the top wing adjustment using rods and a cantilever (like in the ASL suspension) and putting the motor to the base of the wing support? Would it improve the aerodynamics?
Nice wing! What should be an optimal strategy for the DRS? Maybe a position control, based on speed, brake, steering and accels? That would be a fun algorithm to program!
Just out of curiosity: for future versions, would it be possible to remote-mount the motor so it doesn't get in the way of the airflow? I imagine just that one obstruction alone makes a significant difference in the drag created by the wing.
I saw your racing video when the hot coolant leak caused the carbon fiber epoxy to soften. There are room temperature laminating epoxies with higher Tg's available. I used West Systems 105 when I first started working with composites, but with a Tg of just 116 F (it's for boats), I moved to Adtech 820, which goes up to 180 F. However, you'll need to cure above 85 F to use the higher Tg resin. Anyway, excellent work!
Looking good! That's a sweet design. The talent and experience is really coming along. There is a relatively new process that will solve the issues that come up with the AMG 6.2-6.3 buckets, cams, and phaser lock pins. It's called WPC treatment. It's essentially shot peening with ultra hard ceramic micro beads. Increases durability a minimum of 3x with a hardened compact grain structure on the surface of your parts. Mike at IQ Motorsports has a couple videos on it. They use it for all their builds, even the cylinders. The bonus is that it cuts friction by 80-90%. That's 40hp on a C63 with no additional changes.
Really nice man! Really nice crew! Karen, Seb and Eva! I'd suggest for finish, getting your self a compressor and a spray gun (I recommend Devilbiis). Reason I suggest this, is if you clear coat your carbon parts they'll look really glossy with way, way less work, also clear coating your machined aluminium parts will keep 'em looking really fresh, shiny and be easy to clean - A compressor will also allow to use air shop tools REAL POWER!
Wow amazing work! How does the DRS motor work when there's 100s of kgs of downforce going on? You must have designed the path everything moves along very carefully.
Do you use prepreg carbon or are you using vacuum infusion? Also, i only know it only from our car which not made for high speed, cant you just use carbon ribbons as core material for the wing? Or wouldnt it hold up on these high downforces? Nice work the wing looks really good.
Nice detailed Video, though quite complicated with the mould, Have a look at ECO-LAP 's video, just gives a different process with the same basic structure
That’s what I was going to say to U2 are a great couple very positive always smiling giving a lot of information thanks so so much for positivity and your video
I have an idea on how to make supports lighter without disturbing airflow. Just mill out a pocket with a lip and possibly some webbing left, then glue in a piece of plastic (or other material) cut to size. Optionally sandwitch or wrap the whole part. Also You should try flow and morph toolpaths out, escpecially on parts with smooth, curved profile.
only question i have is that isnt the weight distribution a bit challenging bcuz of the motor? i mean shouldnt we add a weight to the left of the spoiler so the weight on both sides get the same?
Great work you guys. Solid ideas Karen. You are a good team player. I like the wing design. I am curious about the vacuum bag you were using. Can you share more?
@@johndeerman2105 I'm not sure what brand or type of vacuum bagging material it is, but we had to make the closed portion ourselves. We just used a large folded sheet, placed double sided tape around the edges, laid on the white fabric, closed it up, and turned on the vacuum to suck out the air! It's a good technique but the downside is you have to leave the vacuum on for a long time. We haven't figured out out to seal it shut without letting air out yet.
Not gunna lie... Would love to see that DRS attached to the wheel speed sensor and adjusts based on the speed. Plus add in a brake toggle to close it after x amount of brake pressure or something. That would just be dope and I'd ask the price of one!
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really cool to see Karen taking part in many processes
Thankyou for all the love!!!
Yes. Shes a cutiepie, smart and not afraid to stand on a carbon fiber wing! Good job 🙂👍
@@onelittlewanderer5342 good job , I do same process but manually, just for more performance, please try to fix the brackets & the window's engine under the mean spoiler, maybe better looking..
This channel is so underrated. You deserve a million subs.
I know right? The difficulty level of all the projects is HUGE but the team just get on with it! Love this channel
this is the difference of marketing and playing to youtube's algorithm. Bet his views would explode if he made the thumbnails youtube friendly with crazy facial expressions in the foreground, posted on a peak viewer schedule, etc
looks great however there is a better way of making the DRS mechanism. rather than attaching the motor on the supports and ruining the airflow, you can make each support a two part piece and then having a pulley system inside and a mini latch inside the wing, then a motor attached to the chassis. use a strong string to attach the latch to the motor. I can make a CAD model and send you what i mean if you want
Every thing about this channel is crazy
The amount of different stuff, you are doing is just amazing! Such a wide range of knowledge!
nice to see ur no longer a one man show haha
You guys are killing it! Awesome and brilliant stuff!
Great work, looks amazing, especially the end plates
Beautiful work!!
Worth every penny!!
Keep the videos coming, enjoying every single one!
They' re sooo cute together😍😍😍
😐
Pathetic 😂
Haha we're not, but we shall take it as a compliment that everyone thinks so!!!
cool stuff. here's an idea for your car with the wing. tie it into sensors on the suspension, and also steering angle, and brake sensors. When you are going straight, reduce the downforce for better top end, then when you enter a corner, or brake hard, the wing generates more down force, or as an air brake. might shave some time off each lap.
This kinda stuff is on the edge of dangerous though, you need to have stable aero before you brake or turn.
It would be much safer to have it tied to GPS, so you could have the wing set and stable before you need it.
And then you can have GPS set your diff, brake balance, roll bars, and all your maps corner by corner(all the stuff that's illegal in F1).
i always dreamed about having active aero. my old 3000gt vr4 had that and some other stuff.
thanks for sharing the process, very cool to see from start to finish, even any issues you faced.
Damn those endplates turned out AMAZING
Your team is amazing! And the wing too!
Man what a team. XF Motorsports is goign places. Looking forward to the next video.
Well done! Team work makes dream work!
Very cool....care to share what motors you’re using for the DRS function?
Just keeps getting better!
New subscriber earned! Looking forward to your product line up growing.
Man your channel is so underrated. You really got great content. Keep them comming
This video was absolutely insane! Keep up the good work 👍
Savage job! Thanks for sharing
I looooooved your video, keep it coming guys
thank you for this awesome project
This channel and this company are gunna go big places.
Right on, looks good. What kind of motor are using for the DRS actuation?
Killing it you guys. What great content. But I’d have to agree with what another commenter said. Both of you are great but you need to up your safety gear. methyl ethyl ketone peroxide hardener for your fiber glass is no joke. My uncle developed mental issues after being an auto body guy for years. He would get the sensation of falling down and endless hole. Respirators suck but slowly harming yourself sucks worse. He had to retire due to his health problems. The wing looks amazing though.
Thankyou for the advice.
@One Little Wanderer absolutely! Plus respirators are pretty cheap. 3m make some at a good price point. Those red checks, light headedness and feeling of blah after breathing resin vapors is your body saying wear a mask. For sanding N95 is just fine. Love watching you guys do your thing just can’t be messing around with those chemicals. That chlorinated brake cleaner is pretty nasty stuff to.
Sooo impressive...inspriational - keep up the great work
Love the innovation!
Great video and very impressive work!
Cool wing! 👍
What a perfect crew 😤
Ello, I’m designing my own electric open wheel, single seater and hopefully when I get the money I can actually make it, your videos are so inspiring! Keep it up
That’s amazing! I’m surprised there aren’t more drs style wings in the market. I would love to put one on a 718
Great video 👍 Having a rough finish on the lower panel may be a good thing breakaway of air, similar to shark skin!
wow! this is tuning on a whole other level!
Lovely craftsmanship. Did you use CFD to tune the aero design?
Did you consider making the top wing adjustment using rods and a cantilever (like in the ASL suspension) and putting the motor to the base of the wing support? Would it improve the aerodynamics?
Are you gonna use the E55 ASL as a testbed for these things?
13:05-13:15 haha love it😎👍🏼
Great video guys. What profile and slot gap did you end up using?
Nice wing! What should be an optimal strategy for the DRS? Maybe a position control, based on speed, brake, steering and accels? That would be a fun algorithm to program!
wow this is super cool, what kind of motor/actuator is that?
Just out of curiosity: for future versions, would it be possible to remote-mount the motor so it doesn't get in the way of the airflow? I imagine just that one obstruction alone makes a significant difference in the drag created by the wing.
Nice work. What software did you use to draw the the wing, Autocad are inventor?
Can you share any details on the motor and how you’re controlling it?
That EVO will need a front aero package to keep it glued to the track, to balance out the new rear wing.
Great work. Have you abandoned the e55 manual?
I saw your racing video when the hot coolant leak caused the carbon fiber epoxy to soften. There are room temperature laminating epoxies with higher Tg's available. I used West Systems 105 when I first started working with composites, but with a Tg of just 116 F (it's for boats), I moved to Adtech 820, which goes up to 180 F. However, you'll need to cure above 85 F to use the higher Tg resin.
Anyway, excellent work!
Looking good! That's a sweet design. The talent and experience is really coming along. There is a relatively new process that will solve the issues that come up with the AMG 6.2-6.3 buckets, cams, and phaser lock pins.
It's called WPC treatment. It's essentially shot peening with ultra hard ceramic micro beads. Increases durability a minimum of 3x with a hardened compact grain structure on the surface of your parts. Mike at IQ Motorsports has a couple videos on it. They use it for all their builds, even the cylinders. The bonus is that it cuts friction by 80-90%. That's 40hp on a C63 with no additional changes.
Great work, what’s happening with the e55 amg manual? You giving up on it?
pro tip, use PUR foam for molds, e.g. Ebalta or Necuron
Did you do anything to minimalise galvanic corrosion between the aluminum and the carbon?
First, and I want to stress this, I am blown away by your work. I’ve gotten so many great ideas from you. Second, does Karen have a sister?
You are blind pall
Sorry, she's taken!
@@onelittlewanderer5342 Story of my life.
Hahah its actually her sister
@@onelittlewanderer5342 Story of my life, kid.
Absolutely awesome product. Now i need a car worthy of it
More F1 replica content! 😁
ASAP.
You should have a plc controller that uses inputs from a g meter and a brake position sensor
Really nice man! Really nice crew! Karen, Seb and Eva! I'd suggest for finish, getting your self a compressor and a spray gun (I recommend Devilbiis). Reason I suggest this, is if you clear coat your carbon parts they'll look really glossy with way, way less work, also clear coating your machined aluminium parts will keep 'em looking really fresh, shiny and be easy to clean - A compressor will also allow to use air shop tools REAL POWER!
Thanks!
Wow amazing work! How does the DRS motor work when there's 100s of kgs of downforce going on? You must have designed the path everything moves along very carefully.
I would love this on my S2000 very nice work 👍🏾
that's something I've always wanted for my c6z corvette 🥰
Great video as usual. Karen is awesome. Great team
:)
Looks like a lot of fun
Do you use prepreg carbon or are you using vacuum infusion? Also, i only know it only from our car which not made for high speed, cant you just use carbon ribbons as core material for the wing?
Or wouldnt it hold up on these high downforces?
Nice work the wing looks really good.
You could have hot wire cut the foam core much easier, like a model glider wing.
Nice detailed Video, though quite complicated with the mould, Have a look at ECO-LAP 's video, just gives a different process with the same basic structure
What motor is it? Great work!
Slick! Nice work . . .
any updates for a full kit?
Severely underrated 🎉
Dear XF Motorsports!
Could you tell me the material of the wing mold?
Awesome!
I'd like to get some specifics to build this for a superkart~
any chance you remember what foam you used for this?
Would you share the cad model for the wing profile?
That’s what I was going to say to U2 are a great couple very positive always smiling giving a lot of information thanks so so much for positivity and your video
Glad you enjoy the content!
What motor did you use? I’m currently designing my own multi element wing with drs and I can’t find a suitable actuator
How did you make the actuator work?
Could you guys do a simple ducklip wing on a bmw e91? All the diagrams are available online
I finally found a video of someone doing this
I'm planning on something similar, can you give me any info on the motor? High torque servo motors are crazy expensive :(
I have an idea on how to make supports lighter without disturbing airflow. Just mill out a pocket with a lip and possibly some webbing left, then glue in a piece of plastic (or other material) cut to size. Optionally sandwitch or wrap the whole part.
Also You should try flow and morph toolpaths out, escpecially on parts with smooth, curved profile.
only question i have is that isnt the weight distribution a bit challenging bcuz of the motor? i mean shouldnt we add a weight to the left of the spoiler so the weight on both sides get the same?
the wing is not on the website... when will it be back?
Great work you guys. Solid ideas Karen. You are a good team player. I like the wing design. I am curious about the vacuum bag you were using. Can you share more?
What about it? :)
@@onelittlewanderer5342 it looks like a very adaptable design. How does it work and where did you get it? ✌🙋🏻♂️
@@johndeerman2105 I'm not sure what brand or type of vacuum bagging material it is, but we had to make the closed portion ourselves. We just used a large folded sheet, placed double sided tape around the edges, laid on the white fabric, closed it up, and turned on the vacuum to suck out the air! It's a good technique but the downside is you have to leave the vacuum on for a long time. We haven't figured out out to seal it shut without letting air out yet.
What will be the trigger? Speed or rpm, braking?
Any way you guys can build one to fit a tesla model 3?
You should run like a bicycle brake cable to pull and push so you cam hide the motor lower in the car.
What cnc machine is this? I am looking to buy one similliar to yours.
Not gunna lie... Would love to see that DRS attached to the wheel speed sensor and adjusts based on the speed. Plus add in a brake toggle to close it after x amount of brake pressure or something. That would just be dope and I'd ask the price of one!
What software did you use for CFD?
Karen alone should have sent your subscriptions to an easy 1m 👍
Merci :)
Bro i need ur help abt suspension geometry mounting points for my chassis build, pls help
What motor is that??
Where can I find that servo?
Make one for the f1 project!
Awesome!!!!!!!
Where can I buy this spoiler?
Is the Karen structural test ANSI or ISO?