@@Mach1Airspace I had to settle to the Cozy Powell tour's half filled arena in Charlotte...I was 19 and the show was still incredible but nobody my age liked elp (none of my friends, anyway)
@@sherryshore1044 sorry i'm disagree with you dear so 1973 was the year when they were at their peak in quality and creativity so after Brain Salad Surgery began the free falling like the Rolling Stones critics mentioned at its time.
For those interested, YES has a nice Going For the One sessions clip in 3 parts showing the workmanship involved in creating “Awaken” and “Going for the One”. Nice seeing professionals working hard at their craft.
When you consider that this is 1/1000 of the whole song, you realize they worked really hard to make the 3 album set. What a good band. Thanks to PLANx, that I could make that comment. Thanks Keith Emerson, and Greg Lake, and Carl Palmer.
What an interesting insight into ELP. When I was younger and listening to these guys, I knew they were really talented but I took it for granted. I just assumed it was easy because they made it sound so. However, just look at how painstakingly they work out such as small part of this song. This 2 or 3 bars of music is a drop of water in the musical song glass yet, they arduously work to get it right - Commitment, talent and love of music.
Damn these guys were awesome. How they managed to maintain a sense of humour while working through dense passages like this blows my mind. Takes me back to my own days in a rehearsal room.
mike .D, Of every video, concert and television appearance I have every seen of Greg Lake this is my very favourite! His face is so expressive here and he really looks gorgeous!
I've been listening to ELP for years & I'm a Fuzion bassist myself & this is why they were & to me, still are incredible musicians. They didn't stop on a song until it sounded just right.
Jeez, i would have loved hangin' out in that room while they were workin' thru some of their stuff. I'd bet there was some great creative music that was never heard outside this room.
Wow I have always known their music was complex but line by line this is so cool to see.. they are human!!!it's obvious kieth was a genius as well as seriously dedicated but also fanatical..had the pleasure of meeting him real nice guy!!:)
It was more complex what virtually any song by other "progressive" bands, tbh. I think Tarkus or Karn Evil 9 was beyond other progressive rock bands' offerings. In a certain way, it could not be very different , in design, to the colosal structure of Tubular Bells.
Been playing this stuff for over 40 years and this is how difficult passages are learned measure by measure and then string them together to get this big incredible complex outcome that people are amazed at. In short, if you just break it down bit by bit it's not that difficult for a seasoned musician.
I totally disagree. I know a few seasoned musicians who have stated that Keith outdid himself with this piece, and no matter how you look at it it is extremely complicated.
***** It is. But in the end, you can play anything if you have the time to practice. It's always about time limitations. ELP really didn't have much time at this point which is why it's all the more amazing they came out with this album.
MrLtia1234 Yes, finding the time is a challenge and it is amazing that ELP was able to write such complicated music with very limited time. I never really thought of it in that way before. Thanks for the input.
MrLtia1234 Actually bands during this time period were pretty much always under a lot of pressure to put out albums because of the contracts they had with record companies. You have to consider that for parts of the year, music was everything. When bands used to be on the road, they would also write music and come up with new ideas and playing, while they were touring with different music, and sometimes they would even start performing their new music before it made it on an album. There are plenty of good documentaries out there that show this pretty much with every band saying the same thing. A little bit of sleep, and a lot of playing.
Keith has said that Greg couldn't read notes at all - he apparently could read a chord chart, though - and that while Carl could read drum music, he couldn't read a piano score and create a drum part with that as a guide. So they had to do it this way: slow, painstaking, and by ear. Fortunately, they had the time, since this was their job and taking the time was part of it.
Apparently, Keith was wrong, because you're able to see Greg running the notes on the guitar while reading the notes on the score. Although, it wouldn't matter, Greg was the talent in this group, (my humble opinion.)
It's no wonder that when Mahavishnu Orchestra opened up for ELP at the few concerts they shared the bill, that people walked out as soon as ELP started playing. With MO, all players could read music, but could also play multiple instruments, and multiple music forms. these guys look like beginners in comparison. Keith is definitely the best "musician" out of the group, but he couldn't play the pitch wheel of a Moog to save his life.
it makes me so sad to watch Keith Emerson knowing in 35 years after this session he had such pain in his hands he lost the ability to play the way he felt he should and ended his life. he was a genius at composing playing and arranging. So sad.
We have lost so many already. Keith E., Greg L., Chris S., Allan H., John W... I am a big fan of Bill Bruford. So glad to see him in his retirement (and he is a PhD now). Anyways RIP all...thank you so much.
This footage is amazing! This doesn’t look like a tedious session to me at all. When you’ve practiced enough music like these guys have, you learn complex music quickly and you know that finishing a really good song with two other one of a kind musicians will have a very good result.
A bit odd how people seem to be seeing this session as grueling. It's just a normal session learning a very complex piece. How else would they do it? Just sit around with groupies and then magic the music together with Keith's ninja powers?
Yeah, things go a lot faster if everyone is a good sight reader. I don’t think Carl read at all; Greg probably not. It may have also been the case that Keith hadn’t written all of this out yet.
All this for less than 10 seconds of music- amazing. I'm pleased to see it a took awhile for the pattern to sink in as Carl shows he's human. That's Carl's rare wood Ludwig kit he had just before he got the steel custom kit.
Carl kills me at 1:28, when he wants Keith to play " the lot...the lot". LOL! Then, listen to Keith say" Oh, I can't do the whole lot..." then starts laughing! Too funny!
Agreed - if everyone understood the time spent behind the scenes to make great songs then they would be appreciated all the more! All those stories by artists saying they hashed out a hit in a day might have a bit of truth but the polish is what really takes the time.
None of this is odd. The only thing that is odd is some of the comments that are made here. I don't think any group has mastered the art of the Vulcan Mind Meld, and instead when a person hears something a certain way, has to somehow get that point across to the others in the band. That's what's happening here. The level of complexity in the writing is beyond most musician's grasp. Time signature changes all the time, key changes, tempo changes, the feel of the song changes. Constant change. Prog. rock, and ELP was one of the first prog. rock bands to be incredibly successful, if not the first. Of COURSE you had moments like this in a studio. But, this is a snippet, and not the sum of all their creation of music. Don't make assumptions from it. Keith wrote very complicated music. Greg wrote a simpler style, that you could then spice up. Much easier to deal with Greg's writing than Keith's. Having said that, I like some of their slower songs the best, even though they don't show off their skills as much. Some of their best songs combine melody and complexity and change feel. Trilogy is a great example of that and probably one of the best songs they ever wrote.
geez, this vid is so cool \i just pulled it up to use as background music while i "do" my homework! ELP and YES and KING CRIMSOM and GENTLE GIANT are the best!
brilliant. 3 guys working together to make a piece work. And guess what? every one of them can play their instruments, and are doing their level best to make the piece work. This is true musicianship (if thats a word)Its not a matter of "Keith is the boss" its a matter of , this is his piece lets make it work. And im sure the same happened with a Greg lake piece or a Carl Palmer piece, At this stage of time they were a unit...pity it didnt last
I wish every band would do this. Even if not by a professional crew. A cell phone glued to the wall (or 10 and edited after the fact) would show the creative process and humanity of musicians.
Good to see that my hero, Carl Palmer is just a human being! Rehearse and listen to Karn Evil some thousand times and you'll be able to replay it. I succeeded in replaying First Impression's two parts more or less the same (not more but less :))) some years ago and captured the final result on a cassette. I am the happiest drummer when I listen to it again sometimes! Do the same, try to replay, capture, listen to the mistakes, then start it over and over again until the satisfactory outcome.
It’s more like, the whole thing is in Emerson’s head but the other two don’t really read music so getting through passages like this is like pulling teeth.
@@hubbsllc while I totally agree and admit that Kieth seems to be the ringmaster here, and is a musical genius, you can’t discount the nearly unmatched talent of Lake and Palmer.
... and if only they could play right? I just love how fluid everything is regardless of the "rough" patches being worked out. There are few groups that could handle this type of composing, let alone performance. Thanks for posting.
I'm floored, as always with these guys. How they had the skill, the creativity and the patience to do this is beyond me. ELP forever.
Should have seen them live at their prime 1974
@@sherryshore1044 Oh yes! Saw them in Tucson on Feb. 22nd, 1974! What a show it was!!!
SpyderGKH Saw them at Cornell’s Barton Hall in ‘77. Still just as good, maybe better.
@@Mach1Airspace I had to settle to the Cozy Powell tour's half filled arena in Charlotte...I was 19 and the show was still incredible but nobody my age liked elp (none of my friends, anyway)
@@sherryshore1044 sorry i'm disagree with you dear so 1973 was the year when they were at their peak in quality and creativity so after Brain Salad Surgery began the free falling like the Rolling Stones critics mentioned at its time.
3 OF THE GREATEST PROG ROCK MUSICIANS TO EVER PERFORM ON EARTH.. RIP KEITH AND GREG..!!
damn, I wish they had another hour of this that we could watch
There must be -- or there had to have been, at one time -- something more to this. What happened to it.
facts
Incredible talent, all three of them.
Masters of Progressive Rock at such young age.ELP lives in my long gone youth good times.
I guess what blows me away is the fact that this was popular music. Man has the world dumbed down.
It's incredible to see them all working out these parts.
How beautiful is youth!
Keith Emerson, my reference as musician and ethernal inspiration. Rest in Peace.
The band that got me into prog 46 years ago....THANK YOU
they were all gorgeous back then.
On the list of bands I would’ve loved to have seen in their prime just once
Lake did have formal guitar lessons - same teacher as Robert Fripp. His acoustic guitar work shows a classical background.
Creating it as they went along! This piece is indestructible.
For those interested, YES has a nice Going For the One sessions clip in 3 parts showing the workmanship involved in creating “Awaken” and “Going for the One”. Nice seeing professionals working hard at their craft.
Link?
drop the link
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One of my favorite ELP musical moments being rehearsed down to the note. Appreciate genius, folks!!
A fantastic glimpse into the creating of one of the most incredible pieces of music ever. Keith is such a dominatrix, God love him. ;)
This is a wonderful little film of music production. Fantastic!
It's profound that young guys in their 20's were doing this stuff and working hard at it...and being successful at it!
I agree completely. The complexity of this piece is beyond me.
Not least the last bit! This would never be commercial today.
really, all the BEATLES WERE UNDER 23 IN AMERICA ED SULLIIVAN, AND UNDER 21 IN BRITAIN
ua-cam.com/video/nisU8XDl-dM/v-deo.html
SO SHUT THE FK UP
This song is one of my all time favorites!
I tell you what, that was an absolute blast to watch! Young guys with huge talent, making a fantastic album
I love the fact that Greg is playing bass with a cigarette in his hand.
Fooling around at 5:20, and suddenly they play it exactly as on the album at 5:33 - WOW.
They weren't playing the bit they were rehearsing, they went back to the "top" of that section.
Excellence in action....namely, three supremely talented individuals sweating over their work.
How fortunate we are that this collective genius was captured working thru yet another brilliant tune.
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Incredible glimpse inside the studio.
Unbelievable talent.
I love the whole suite, but the 2nd Impression is my favorite. So much elegance and expression it’s a marvel of a composition.
Pure, unadulterated genius.
Totally love watching the three having fun and laughing while creating a masterpiece !
Thankyou So Much !!!!
Amazing how thorough they were to the last note. Their perfectionism shows in every song.
Carl Palmer is the real Buddy Rich of rock !! the underhand grip , etc,..amazing !!
Somethings will never be equaled, as Michealangelo, Galileo , Beethoven, ELP. All these happen but once a civilization, once is all you will ever get.
This footage is amazing.
Muito lindos quando jovens heim? 🥰🥰🥰
Que maravilla cuando se encuentran seres talentosos y logran conformar un equipo. El destino nos dio esta suerte.😆😃
Such gentlemen!
Hard to believe that this seemingly "Dinking" around eventually became incredibly complex and innovative music of awesome power
When you consider that this is 1/1000 of the whole song, you realize they worked really hard to make the 3 album set. What a good band. Thanks to PLANx, that I could make that comment. Thanks Keith Emerson, and Greg Lake, and Carl Palmer.
What an interesting insight into ELP. When I was younger and listening to these guys, I knew they were really talented but I took it for granted. I just assumed it was easy because they made it sound so. However, just look at how painstakingly they work out such as small part of this song. This 2 or 3 bars of music is a drop of water in the musical song glass yet, they arduously work to get it right - Commitment, talent and love of music.
Such patience.
This is AWESOME stuff! Geniuses at work! ELP RULE!
Damn these guys were awesome. How they managed to maintain a sense of humour while working through dense passages like this blows my mind. Takes me back to my own days in a rehearsal room.
Greg Lake was an absolute doll :)
+leslie silk,
Greg was never cuter to watch and never more handsome than he is in this delightful clip! He was an absolute doll baby!!! :)
they all were good looking. i just thought that when I read your comment...
He was an insane bassist.
goto love Greg, seems completely unfazed !
mike .D,
Of every video, concert and television appearance I have every seen of Greg Lake this is my very favourite! His face is so expressive here and he really
looks gorgeous!
I've been listening to ELP for years & I'm a Fuzion bassist myself & this is why they were & to me, still are incredible musicians. They didn't stop on a song until it sounded just right.
Jeez, i would have loved hangin' out in that room while they were workin' thru some of their stuff. I'd bet there was some great creative music that was never heard outside this room.
Wow I have always known their music was complex but line by line this is so cool to see.. they are human!!!it's obvious kieth was a genius as well as seriously dedicated but also fanatical..had the pleasure of meeting him real nice guy!!:)
I got to meet him also, at the Boston tea party, with the Nice 1968
One minute of EL&P music, is perhaps more complex than a whole album by today's poor standars
It was more complex what virtually any song by other "progressive" bands, tbh.
I think Tarkus or Karn Evil 9 was beyond other progressive rock bands' offerings. In a certain way, it could not be very different , in design, to the colosal structure of Tubular Bells.
This is the reason they were called a super group. Their music will live forever.
Been playing this stuff for over 40 years and this is how difficult passages are learned measure by measure and then string them together to get this big incredible complex outcome that people are amazed at. In short, if you just break it down bit by bit it's not that difficult for a seasoned musician.
I totally disagree. I know a few seasoned musicians who have stated that Keith outdid himself with this piece, and no matter how you look at it it is extremely complicated.
***** It is. But in the end, you can play anything if you have the time to practice. It's always about time limitations. ELP really didn't have much time at this point which is why it's all the more amazing they came out with this album.
MrLtia1234 Yes, finding the time is a challenge and it is amazing that ELP was able to write such complicated music with very limited time. I never really thought of it in that way before. Thanks for the input.
MrLtia1234 Actually bands during this time period were pretty much always under a lot of pressure to put out albums because of the contracts they had with record companies. You have to consider that for parts of the year, music was everything. When bands used to be on the road, they would also write music and come up with new ideas and playing, while they were touring with different music, and sometimes they would even start performing their new music before it made it on an album. There are plenty of good documentaries out there that show this pretty much with every band saying the same thing. A little bit of sleep, and a lot of playing.
Watching this just makes me smile. Just comes to show you that you can rehearse and still have fun.
Keith has said that Greg couldn't read notes at all - he apparently could read a chord chart, though - and that while Carl could read drum music, he couldn't read a piano score and create a drum part with that as a guide. So they had to do it this way: slow, painstaking, and by ear. Fortunately, they had the time, since this was their job and taking the time was part of it.
Apparently, Keith was wrong, because you're able to see Greg running the notes on the guitar while reading the notes on the score. Although, it wouldn't matter, Greg was the talent in this group, (my humble opinion.)
@@gayleash9712 I humbly disagree. They all were supremely talented.
@@theshamelesspitchmenforjes2173 Right
It's no wonder that when Mahavishnu Orchestra opened up for ELP at the few concerts they shared the bill, that people walked out as soon as ELP started playing. With MO, all players could read music, but could also play multiple instruments, and multiple music forms. these guys look like beginners in comparison. Keith is definitely the best "musician" out of the group, but he couldn't play the pitch wheel of a Moog to save his life.
Amazing they could create such wonderful and creative music. I saw them live 1974, awesome
it makes me so sad to watch Keith Emerson knowing in 35 years after this session he had such pain in his hands he lost the ability to play the way he felt he should and ended his life. he was a genius at composing playing and arranging. So sad.
I wept at the news.
We have lost so many already. Keith E., Greg L., Chris S., Allan H., John W... I am a big fan of Bill Bruford. So glad to see him in his retirement (and he is a PhD now). Anyways RIP all...thank you so much.
This is so awesome seeing them rehearsing the basics and building the piece from it. Thank you for posting!
Genialidad 😆creación 😘eternamente jóvenes y bellos. ..💞💎💞💎💞💎💞💎💞💎💞💎
Si.....esto se da una sola vez en la vida. Que suerte tuvimos al disfrutar su música.
such brilliant musicians!
This footage is amazing! This doesn’t look like a tedious session to me at all. When you’ve practiced enough music like these guys have, you learn complex music quickly and you know that finishing a really good song with two other one of a kind musicians will have a very good result.
RIP Greg
Only ELP practiced note by note in their songs. Such brilliance!
A bit odd how people seem to be seeing this session as grueling. It's just a normal session learning a very complex piece. How else would they do it? Just sit around with groupies and then magic the music together with Keith's ninja powers?
It's musicspeak!
I have to go with the Ninja powers! :)
I've read wizard powers were easier to come by in those days. Are you sure it was ninja powers keith was using?
@@lampfacedampchase8048,At least you can read anything! What in hell is this "Ninja" crap? Grow up you warriors! Ha Ha Ha Ha. Poopy heads!
Hard work. Always hard work.
keith showing carl some drum licks!
今は亡き2人を含めた3人の素顔が垣間見れる貴重なオフショット！
ファンにはたまりません！
当にこれだけで、レイクのシャウト通り、１つの
『ショーを見ている』
気になりますね！
man this is awesome. genius in the making. so amazed they had to rehearse dozens of times to get a few bars we're so familiar with.
Yeah, things go a lot faster if everyone is a good sight reader. I don’t think Carl read at all; Greg probably not. It may have also been the case that Keith hadn’t written all of this out yet.
Carl taking the sticks back from Keith lol
The GREATEST.... WISH I HAD REALIZED THIS IN THE 70'S
This is such an amazing look into ELP. I hope there are a lot more of these videos to be found.
1:42 😅 Carl grabbing the sticks back from Keith using immediate traditional grip.
Keith teaching carl drums ........classic !
Definitely ahead of their time
All this for less than 10 seconds of music- amazing. I'm pleased to see it a took awhile for the pattern to sink in as Carl shows he's human. That's Carl's rare wood Ludwig kit he had just before he got the steel custom kit.
I also love how Keith Emerson could easily pick up the drums and show call Palmer.What he's looking for
They're all great, but Keith was BEYOND GREAT. miss you much
I just love Keith's proud expression at 3:20, after a long and patient practicing and experimenting.
Carl kills me at 1:28, when he wants Keith to play " the lot...the lot". LOL! Then, listen to Keith say" Oh, I can't do the whole lot..." then starts laughing! Too funny!
putting together some legendary music
Agreed - if everyone understood the time spent behind the scenes to make great songs then they would be appreciated all the more! All those stories by artists saying they hashed out a hit in a day might have a bit of truth but the polish is what really takes the time.
None of this is odd. The only thing that is odd is some of the comments that are made here. I don't think any group has mastered the art of the Vulcan Mind Meld, and instead when a person hears something a certain way, has to somehow get that point across to the others in the band. That's what's happening here. The level of complexity in the writing is beyond most musician's grasp. Time signature changes all the time, key changes, tempo changes, the feel of the song changes. Constant change. Prog. rock, and ELP was one of the first prog. rock bands to be incredibly successful, if not the first. Of COURSE you had moments like this in a studio. But, this is a snippet, and not the sum of all their creation of music. Don't make assumptions from it. Keith wrote very complicated music. Greg wrote a simpler style, that you could then spice up. Much easier to deal with Greg's writing than Keith's. Having said that, I like some of their slower songs the best, even though they don't show off their skills as much. Some of their best songs combine melody and complexity and change feel. Trilogy is a great example of that and probably one of the best songs they ever wrote.
Carl Palmer is still good looking. Greg Lake was hot back then. Keith is a wild child.
You really “ don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone “ do you , how lucky were we to grow up in this era of geniuses
Fantastic! What an effort!
geez, this vid is so cool \i just pulled it up to use as background music while i "do" my homework! ELP and YES and KING CRIMSOM and GENTLE GIANT are the best!
brilliant. 3 guys working together to make a piece work. And guess what? every one of them can play their instruments, and are doing their level best to make the piece work. This is true musicianship (if thats a word)Its not a matter of "Keith is the boss" its a matter of , this is his piece lets make it work. And im sure the same happened with a Greg lake piece or a Carl Palmer piece, At this stage of time they were a unit...pity it didnt last
catz Keet , 5 short years, after they came back it wasn’t the same!
OMG how young they were but so skilled in playing complex music
I wish every band would do this. Even if not by a professional crew. A cell phone glued to the wall (or 10 and edited after the fact) would show the creative process and humanity of musicians.
Studio works is a very strong job.
Great valuation for a group.
Magnificent group.
Silver from Poland.
Thank you for my introduction to quadriphonic sound.
Good to see that my hero, Carl Palmer is just a human being!
Rehearse and listen to Karn Evil some thousand times and you'll be able to replay it. I succeeded in replaying First Impression's two parts more or less the same (not more but less :))) some years ago and captured the final result on a cassette. I am the happiest drummer when I listen to it again sometimes!
Do the same, try to replay, capture, listen to the mistakes, then start it over and over again until the satisfactory outcome.
...and Keith showing Carl also?
What an awesome band!!
out standing pure genius at work
3 of the very best in each of his instruments composing music in real time. This looks like so much fun.
It’s more like, the whole thing is in Emerson’s head but the other two don’t really read music so getting through passages like this is like pulling teeth.
@@hubbsllc while I totally agree and admit that Kieth seems to be the ringmaster here, and is a musical genius, you can’t discount the nearly unmatched talent of Lake and Palmer.
@@hubbsllcthey do read music all three of them😮
I love this too!
" You can get away with it that way" then Palmer laughs.. ha ha
wow. just wow.
seems like a happy LP to work and and in many respects it was their best.
sooo much practice! this entire part goes by in a couple seconds
I would love to see some Rush footage like this.
Fantastico !!!
Crazy how hard they worked for 10 seconds of music
love lake..
musicians @ work...
... and if only they could play right? I just love how fluid everything is regardless of the "rough" patches being worked out. There are few groups that could handle this type of composing, let alone performance. Thanks for posting.