The issue with the sacred damage incantations not being buffed by the flocks and canvas talisman is only in pvp. I forgot to mention it as i mostly do pvp related content lol.
Is Sacred damage something different to Holy damage? Or are we using many words for the same thing here? If they are the same, do the talismans effect other holy damage incantations such as the rings of light etc?
I use it in arena duels just because it is additional damage. Bad tracking and the opponent will mostly not pay it any mind. So far only one time has it dealt the final blow to an opponent
i have nothing but respect for chasethebro, ive never seen someone with this consistent and often of an upload schedule, while also have good quality videos
It also doesn't help that most enemies in the base game besides like Skeletons, are resistant to Holy. The only area with lots of enemies that don't resist/are weak to Holy are in the DLC. Holy is sadly my favorite element, and every day they don't fix the issues with the Talismans in PvP, it breaks my heart. At least we have Sword of Light.
Igon's Greatbow can be used to send arrows spiraling towards your enemies! It would not fit on this build in the least! But that is okay! I still love it!
Unrelated to the build but the fully charged tornado combos into stone of Guranq and will usually one shot most players! I did a video on that recently would love to see you showcase that amazing combo.
@@rwberger6that’s not even mentioning that there’s still a ton of bugs with holy damage and things not working with it. It’s no wonder you see waaay more int mains then faith
“Miyazaki, sir, it’s called ‘holy damage’” Miyazaki: “Excellent, now make everything in base game resistant to it” *Two years later* “Sir, we’ve made everything in the DLC weaker to holy damage” Miyazaki: “Excellent, now make it so it cannot be buffed” “Sir wh-“ Miyazaki: “You heard me.”
I made a build very similar to this and the other Faith caster, and i love it so so much. It’s so disappointing that so many things aren’t being buffed by talismans. Holy damage would be on par with magic at the very least if not higher.
I used to PvP a lot in DS2 back in the day even before BB and DS3, haven't done any PvP in Elden Ring or years. You're making me want to give it a try :D, awesome videos!
4:18 bro could have rolled to the side on one of those 3 panic rolls instead he just perfectly goes the same direction as the giant arc, that kill was funny too me 😂
As a specific location, other than the first step in limgrave and shack in liurnia....subterranean shunning grounds seem the most popular in base game invasions. Now when I say most popular, it's not necessarily the most people at once- I just run into the same amounts at all 3 times of the day
The way the hitbox is generated is really interesting. It spreads outward from the central line of sight, and keeps going until it hits something, or max distance.
Err keen snaps did watchful spirit with the Erdtree great shield to deflect and destroy. Tracking was awesome and each deflect was like 8-900HP. Self deflects with the Erdtree great shield are huuuuge
PRO TIP for Watchful Spirit Spell. It can trigger your ErdTree GreatShield's Golden Retaliation Parry. When a spirit appears, follow it and Use your parry to shoot out with it's counter blast.
Bearer of the torch Seek madness. Unhinged, more fiery madness. Seek the host, that is the only way. Lest the wizards swallow you whole... As it has so many others.
Also, now that i think about it, is this glitch localized to PvP? I just went and tested the Golden Arcs and they seem to be boosted by Flocks. Nevermind, checked, yep. Weirdly only bugged in PvP, because of course, it’s FromSoft. And it’s been this way since like, release. Wow.
It's crazy to me that after so many years, holy damage STILL isn't fixed. The most important damage type of the game based on lore and the story, and it still hasn't been fixed.
Was really glad they added these in the dlc Ideally I hoped they would have added holy alternatives to carian sword spells (like what Morgot uses) but these are cool too
How does he instaheals when he is going to die.i mean at 13 :45~ he gets an heal while rolling.i dont think there is an amor or talisman that does that.
Chase you should do max level invasions just to cast a lot of shit in a single week the invasion, like heal from afar, gravitational missile and other things If you have done it before then just ignore this, big fan btw
These incants piss me off. SO MANY THINGS HINTED AT THESE THINGS BEING SORCERIES... Yet were made Incantations.. 1. LITERALLY WERE SORCERY IN LORE. Every enemy that uses these "incantations" uses a staff. 2. STATISTICALLY POSSIBLE TO MAKE THEM SORCERIES. Considering they've already made holy damage that scaled with Int (see DLC Radahn swords) 3. MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR WEAPON CATALYST. The Barbed Staff Spear would've been the PERFECT weapon staff for these incantations, great spear AND casting tool. MY REACTION? "😢"
Challenge to make something good out of these! Smithscript daggers + swift spear with spectral lance ash. Spectral lance also benefits from Smithing Talisman. Super fun but damage feels low. The pair or a build using either of these. Almost no videos on the swift spear.
Imagine how dope that would be if divine feathers got a buff and made the damage actually decent and also made it stack with the consecutive hits talismans and tears!? That would be so sick ❤
Chase, I noticed you had the Dryleaf seal in your offhand instead of the Spiraltree Seal. That does actually affect Spira, Golden Arcs and Giant Golden Arcs by 20%, unlike the talismans.
Watchful spirit is funny as it does decent damage for what it is and can chip away at bosses while you're dodging their combos. Also good for keeping the stance meter up. However, the tracking is terrible and the spirits often miss in the stupidest ways like randomly nose diving into the dirt. Either it needs a major damage buff to warrant the poor tracking or better yet a hefty tracking buff and maybe even make it chargeable for extra skulls.
The issue with the sacred damage incantations not being buffed by the flocks and canvas talisman is only in pvp. I forgot to mention it as i mostly do pvp related content lol.
Its too bad we couldn't see an use for bird feather
@@titanus261 the drain is so immense, like why would anyone use it over any other damage dealing spell?
Is Sacred damage something different to Holy damage? Or are we using many words for the same thing here? If they are the same, do the talismans effect other holy damage incantations such as the rings of light etc?
@Loafusbreadmyre Holy is the damage type, while Sacred is the infusion for weapons.
@@KissedByFire16 it seems to be efficient only against big bosses like bale or the hippo
All these wizardry videos are sending Chase into a spiral
You need to know what you did. 😂
Lol😂
No…
It really is a painful arc to watch
A spiral... of MADNESSSSSSS
The watchful spirit is there to give moral support
Its just a little guy doing its best.
I use it in arena duels just because it is additional damage. Bad tracking and the opponent will mostly not pay it any mind. So far only one time has it dealt the final blow to an opponent
I want to know does pvp feel better at 150 or 200
Personal preference. I prefer 200, but others like 150. @@kurtisminnich6013
@@kurtisminnich6013it felt best at 500
This build is basically Giant Golden Arc has to bring its lil' cousins to pvp while mom tells it to let the kids play too.
Its no wonder the hornsent lost so hard to messmer when their incantations were this bad.
The only one worth even thinking about using is the McDonald’s arch
8:25 you can see the giant golden arc wiggling downwards as it tracks the opponent's dodge rolls. Very silly.
Giant Golden Arc is way better than I thought it was, thanks for showing how good it can be
Its the only good spiral incantation.
Some would say Chase is on his Giant Golden Arc arc.
@@rwberger6counter argument: Golden Arcs is also pretty good because of the cost effectiveness of the spell.
I’ve said this already in another video, 6:03 Chase’s spidey sense is crazy.
You could have used the Barbed Staff-Spear as well for the arcs from it
Missed opportunity
i have nothing but respect for chasethebro, ive never seen someone with this consistent and often of an upload schedule, while also have good quality videos
it's genuinely amazing that you won all these invasions with only these incantations
Chase the spiralling into insanity
speaking of insanity, I heard there's a torch that makes you go mad
Had no idea sacred damage could not be boosted. That explains why they suck so much 😂
Yeah, its a bug that effects pvp only. It works fine in pve.
Rule of thumb is that holy damage is only boosted by things that directly increase your AR.
It also doesn't help that most enemies in the base game besides like Skeletons, are resistant to Holy. The only area with lots of enemies that don't resist/are weak to Holy are in the DLC.
Holy is sadly my favorite element, and every day they don't fix the issues with the Talismans in PvP, it breaks my heart. At least we have Sword of Light.
Igon's Greatbow can be used to send arrows spiraling towards your enemies! It would not fit on this build in the least! But that is okay! I still love it!
Miquella’s charm has clearly sent chase into a spiral with all these dishonest wizard builds.
Imagine how scary they would be if holy damage could be properly buffed...
8:32 amazing criss cross and a hunter notification! lol
Unrelated to the build but the fully charged tornado combos into stone of Guranq and will usually one shot most players! I did a video on that recently would love to see you showcase that amazing combo.
Forgot to mention it only works with max cast speed
Hopefully fromsoft watches this and fixes the spiral incants ❤
Its been broken for over a month now and effects ALL sacred damage in pvp, not kust spiral incants.
@@rwberger6that’s not even mentioning that there’s still a ton of bugs with holy damage and things not working with it. It’s no wonder you see waaay more int mains then faith
@@YarnhamBrainsucker I mean we usually switch over to lightning casting or pyro. . . . .
@@rwberger6 month? It's a 10 year old bug, lasting since DS3.
“Miyazaki, sir, it’s called ‘holy damage’”
Miyazaki: “Excellent, now make everything in base game resistant to it”
*Two years later*
“Sir, we’ve made everything in the DLC weaker to holy damage”
Miyazaki: “Excellent, now make it so it cannot be buffed”
“Sir wh-“
Miyazaki: “You heard me.”
loads stuff weak to holy damage in base game
@@borntobebroken yes but almost all of the mainline bosses are resistant to it, making it typically the worst damage type.
It can be buffed for PvE, just not for PvE. It's actually been that way before the DLC
@@remn8636 it deletes the stuff it does work on and who just kills the main bosses anyway
This isn't new, it's been a thing since release. Anything that doesn't have explicitly defined PvP values doesn't boost holy damage against players.
Bro was machine gunning literal bird feathers 🪶 😭
Chase is on his Giant Golden Arc arc
If not even Chase can make those incants good, no one can.
I feel like if those leaves did some bleed they would go from pathetic to really good
Elden Snaps already found a better use for Watchful Spirit than ChasetheBro my friend
You can use the Last Rites buff on the Golden Epitaph to efficiently buff your sacred damage FYI
I made a build very similar to this and the other Faith caster, and i love it so so much. It’s so disappointing that so many things aren’t being buffed by talismans. Holy damage would be on par with magic at the very least if not higher.
Only three wizards today (or I fell asleep)
12:58 "Teammate wizards here"
13:22 "Wizard!?"
16:38 "One of the wizards here?"
I used to PvP a lot in DS2 back in the day even before BB and DS3, haven't done any PvP in Elden Ring or years. You're making me want to give it a try :D, awesome videos!
4:18 bro could have rolled to the side on one of those 3 panic rolls instead he just perfectly goes the same direction as the giant arc, that kill was funny too me 😂
Chase you know arcs have a high point to start, a low point in the middle and a high point at the end.
Nanaya's torch.
Giant Golden Arc is SO good. Really spammable, great damage, big AoE, great tracking, it's a mini Wave of Gold with a fraction of the cast time.
An optimized golden build would be cool. The best good spells paired with the best gold weapons.
As a specific location, other than the first step in limgrave and shack in liurnia....subterranean shunning grounds seem the most popular in base game invasions. Now when I say most popular, it's not necessarily the most people at once- I just run into the same amounts at all 3 times of the day
16:06 Oh! That one snuck through the door.
I've seen the earlier ones you threw "explode", trying to fit through doors etc.
The way the hitbox is generated is really interesting. It spreads outward from the central line of sight, and keeps going until it hits something, or max distance.
Err keen snaps did watchful spirit with the Erdtree great shield to deflect and destroy. Tracking was awesome and each deflect was like 8-900HP. Self deflects with the Erdtree great shield are huuuuge
6:30 Wow, that blue. Really smart, I have to say.
This is so anime! Chase is basically Sukuna spamming cursed technique dismantle and world ending slashes (charged).
"Elden Ring: Nanaya's Torch or Dishonest Title?"
Surprised chase hasn’t done a magma sorcery build since the dread talisman was added
PRO TIP for Watchful Spirit Spell. It can trigger your ErdTree GreatShield's Golden Retaliation Parry. When a spirit appears, follow it and Use your parry to shoot out with it's counter blast.
Watchful Spirit works with the Erdtree shield to shoot golden pew pews at enemies whenever you want.
I hope he sees this. Not many people know this.
“That’s quite enough from you, man of the spiral”
Bearer of the torch
Seek madness. Unhinged, more fiery madness.
Seek the host, that is the only way.
Lest the wizards swallow you whole... As it has so many others.
The magical labyrinth keeps making Chase go in circles!
Ah yes, yet another ChaseTheThrow classic
Add in some Elden Stars, some Multilayered Ring of Light, and the Sword of Light, baby you got a stew going
golden wave plus the golden wave sword seems like it could work
McChase The Bro here, and today I'm giving everyone a taste of these golden arches
We need another one of these 😂 the chase down that requires no effort is legendary
the holy damage thing is only for pvp tho, important
Thank you saintriot for your research into unbuffable sacred damage incants
So much spiral power that the moon is about to turn into a mech and purge the surface
(Chase the Bro, bro, fight the power!)
Chase the Kanassan: I CAN SEE THE FUTURE...!
Other ChaseTheBro titles: "This weapon is surprisingly powerful!"
This one: "Is this weapon good?"
I think I can guess the answer.
Miriam’s vanishing build - I find it true combos into twin moon, vortex of putrescence and death lightning
All these spirals are maddening, just like another forgotten torch....
4:12 golden arc does not mind flips
So to answer the question posed by the title of the video…
No. They are not powerful.
Spiral incants when pve use them 🗿 Spiral incants when we use them 💩
If this was a sequel to a game, it'd be called "ChaseTheBro Spiralling Outta Control"..
Absolutely loving your wizard spinoff series
Also, now that i think about it, is this glitch localized to PvP? I just went and tested the Golden Arcs and they seem to be boosted by Flocks.
Nevermind, checked, yep. Weirdly only bugged in PvP, because of course, it’s FromSoft. And it’s been this way since like, release. Wow.
yeah it is only in pvp, its one of the reasons i never noticed as i test my damage on pve a lot of the time to decide on what casting tools to use lol
@ This is literally what i was just doing XD turn off AI and go abuse Ekzykes the rot dragon 🤣
I like to use spiral in co op on bosses bc if you have someone frontlining you can just hold down spiral and pump out a ton of dmg from the back
It's crazy to me that after so many years, holy damage STILL isn't fixed. The most important damage type of the game based on lore and the story, and it still hasn't been fixed.
Was really glad they added these in the dlc
Ideally I hoped they would have added holy alternatives to carian sword spells (like what Morgot uses) but these are cool too
The Golden Arches are actually buffed by Raw meat dumplings
(Not really, I'm just making a McDonald's joke about nasty meat poisoning you)
next vid: today we have a build centered entirely around giant golden arc
I’ve been hyped for this one
6:18 Chase actually noticing a blue come in?! Man, the world must be ending 😂
8:30 Nvm 😅
Chase if you want to know more about what doesn't work with holy damage in pvp chrightt has a video about it
Good shout. Thats how I learned about it.
Ever daily upload is a new build for me to try
Would you recommend 150 or 200 for invading in the dlc? Wanna have the largest invasion pool possible
Elden Ring: Is Rabbath's Cannon The Best Ballista?
Now he's a "Filthy Faith Wizzaaad"
14:34 Just like your nemesis Stevelovesky use to say! 😆
How does he instaheals when he is going to die.i mean at 13 :45~ he gets an heal while rolling.i dont think there is an amor or talisman that does that.
Chase you should do max level invasions just to cast a lot of shit in a single week the invasion, like heal from afar, gravitational missile and other things
If you have done it before then just ignore this, big fan btw
These players went to the runing school of Prometheus... Why they rolling AWAY of the golden arc instead of INTO it lmfao
These incants piss me off. SO MANY THINGS HINTED AT THESE THINGS BEING SORCERIES... Yet were made Incantations..
1. LITERALLY WERE SORCERY IN LORE. Every enemy that uses these "incantations" uses a staff.
2. STATISTICALLY POSSIBLE TO MAKE THEM SORCERIES. Considering they've already made holy damage that scaled with Int (see DLC Radahn swords)
3. MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR WEAPON CATALYST. The Barbed Staff Spear would've been the PERFECT weapon staff for these incantations, great spear AND casting tool.
MY REACTION? "😢"
Challenge to make something good out of these! Smithscript daggers + swift spear with spectral lance ash. Spectral lance also benefits from Smithing Talisman. Super fun but damage feels low. The pair or a build using either of these. Almost no videos on the swift spear.
Havent seen this many Giant Golden Arc since that piss festival in the Alps last year
6:20 blue was also the host in the 13:30 invasion I think
build is fun. At this point chase could probably beat someone with the starting wench club
All this dishonesty is spiralling chase into madness
You could use the Enraged Divine Beast talisman as the target to increase the strength of the Divine Beast Tornado by 10%.
“Yo what’s up guys, ChaseTheGold here”
Imagine how dope that would be if divine feathers got a buff and made the damage actually decent and also made it stack with the consecutive hits talismans and tears!? That would be so sick ❤
13:45 how did Chase heal here? I didn’t see a flask or incant go off.
I believe it was his bubble tear being popped, so instead of dying he gets healed a bit
@skyblood3725 oh I didn't know that, pretty neat!
hi chase id love to see you try the magma sorceries with dread talisman thanks love you
Seems like the damage Divine Feathers and tracking Spira were supposed to get, got loaded into Giant Gold Arc
What's your favorite incantation type to play with? I'm stuck between lightning and fire.
Bird Feathers are such a good Berserk Refrenced
Chase, I noticed you had the Dryleaf seal in your offhand instead of the Spiraltree Seal. That does actually affect Spira, Golden Arcs and Giant Golden Arcs by 20%, unlike the talismans.
Watch his intro. He tested the spiraltree seal! Same issue as the flocks and faithful talismans
@@Apexapee Oh, of course. Why would I even think a seal that only buffs three holy-damage spells would affect holy damage? How silly.
@@pedanterrific212 pvp bug lol... It buffs the incantations in PvE, but in pvp iy somehow doesnt work
6:21 gamer sense
Watchful spirit is funny as it does decent damage for what it is and can chip away at bosses while you're dodging their combos. Also good for keeping the stance meter up. However, the tracking is terrible and the spirits often miss in the stupidest ways like randomly nose diving into the dirt.
Either it needs a major damage buff to warrant the poor tracking or better yet a hefty tracking buff and maybe even make it chargeable for extra skulls.
An erdtree caster with shockwaves would be fun
Pls do full frost build its been so long chase the frost
Ayo the host at 8:30 had a good fit
Sacred scorpion charm boosts sacred/holy incantations
No wonder hornsents suffered a crushing defeat with those weak spells.
Thanks for this❤
Elden Ring: Nanaya's torch is CRAZY powerful!