@redeemedzoomer6053 Grüß Dich! I just watched this great video. I constantly thought about Godʼs role and plan for his covenant in this. Can you extract any theology from this? I even think the latter example with the milk mixing in with tea to create a temporal creative complexity before fading into entropy might be even used in a moral argument but idk ua-cam.com/video/DxL2HoqLbyA/v-deo.htmlsi=Kj0RCohx2AmkDLeO
On a related note, can you explain some questionable books that aren't in the bible? In particularly books referenced in Jude, where he talks about angels being imprisoned, archangel michael and satan fighting over moses' body, and prophesies of enoch. One explanation I saw was that jude was just giving examples from popular literature like a pastor would in his sermons, but you don't put random pastor sermons in the Bible, everything in it comes from divine inspiration.
The Catholic Church is not mentioned in the Bible. Nor are denominations. But what is mentioned is that we all are to be born again, claim Jesus Christ as our personal savior and abide in his grace free to all not of works lest any man boast. Denominations are not mentioned in the Bible. There is only one church, God's church with Christ at its head. The Church Of God. No matter what physical church you attend, if you are born again and claim Jesus Christ as your personal savior, you are a member of The Church Of God. The Church Of God is mentioned over and over again in scripture: Let’s read 1 Corinthians 1:2: “To the church of God which is in Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, the called saints.” 1 Timothy 3:15 ESV / 21 helpful votes If I delay, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, a pillar and buttress of the truth. 1 Corinthians 11:22 ESV / 18 helpful votes What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I commend you in this? No, I will not. Acts 20:28 - Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 1 Corinthians 3:17 - If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. Ephesians 2:19 KJV 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 1 Corinthians 15:9 KJV 9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
can we all pray for the person replying to every single comment saying that "Jesus isn't the messiah"? let me also take this opportunity to say that we shouldn't be getting into a fight with him (or her) or trying to engage, but let us pray that the truth may be revealed to him (or her) by the glory of God.
I’m a Muslim and we do believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) is the true Messiah, he didn’t die yet cuz we believe in the ascension and we also believe in the second coming of Jesus and we are the true followers of him to kill the Antichrist. Muslims believe in one god just like Jesus said in the bible “Your God is one” Ibrahim,Moses, Jesus and Mohammed (peace be upon them all) were prophets sent by God to guide us but they are NOT Gods.
@@NearestGalaxy thank you for the peace, I’ve heard that from a muslim perspective that Jesus was never crucified but was taken? Not too sure just curious what you know. I will forever believe in my faith however one thing I noticed is you mentioned that Jesus is seen as a God, another christian may have a better perspective but Jesus was the human embodiment of God and the holy spirit is the spirit of God, forming the holy trinity (same entity different embodiment). I am aware that in the muslim faith its acknowledged that both Jesus and Mohammed are prophets, but in Christianity Jesus was not a prophet but the son of God, not flesh birthing flesh sort of way yet specifically the human embodiment of God. Naturally we will have different views and opinions but thank you for your view! My best friend is a muslim but doesn't practice much but we never let our differences get in the way!
@matheuscaneta1194 They aren’t the same thing according to RZ, JWs technically still believe in God but most Unitarians just consider God a useful idea to inspire people to do social justice and such-they’re also very different in their theology, rules, etc.
@@Kenny-mu2xb I def think that with the community Zoomer has revealed and gathered within the Church, more and more Christians are becoming more accpeting of each other!!
In Mark 9: 38-41 Jesus explicitly condones other fellowships and says that as long as you are received well because you belong to Christ, that Church is of the True Church and its followers will not lose their reward. Whoever is not against us is for us.
Christ/Jesus never formed a church, he just taught others how to be good. Edit: For those citing the Bible, it only says he would “built” a church, never states he did.
Hey guys, I'm Armenian Apostolic, proud to be from the first official Christian country!!!! Exciting right!?!?!?!?!?!? Aight I love you guys so much! Thanks for the video man I love all ur videos that I watched so far (this is my second one). Hopefully I can get to finish watching tomorrow but it's 10:54PM in Canada right now I'm super tired. Love you, God Bless! He was and is and is to come!
As an Egyptian Christian from the Coptic Church, I would like to say that we never deny the nature of the Other God. We believe that when God took on flesh, His divinity was united with humanity. God is fully God and fully human, and human nature and divine nature are united. + Saint John Chrysostom said: “God is not separated from His humanity The theology of a single moment or the blink of an eye. The same words were said by Saint George and Saint Basil. And We believe in the nature of divinity and the nature of humanity. These two natures are united and + I do not know that we, the Orthodox Church, separated even though there was no difference in doctrine and the divinity of Christ, and I believe that there was a misunderstanding in the last council, nothing more and nothing less.✝️☦️☦️✝️i hope we get united again Orthodox church and Catholic church and all christians amen Edit : thank you all guys for that Good comments ❤️❤️❤️
I believe the Coptic Patriarch was not at the council of Chalcedon, and did not decide to agree with it later on, so they basically booted out the Coptic church. Something similar happened with the Assyrians.
Very good video! I’m a Catholic myself, and from my point of view most of the information is pretty accurate. Thank you for being intellectually honest.
On the Baptists, you got us mostly right, but there were two major parts of us. The General Baptists had communion with the Anabaptists after splitting from the Church of England around 1600, and believed in free will, the Particular Baptists that came later, and they were much more Calvinistic. Most Particular Baptists are now called "Reformed Baptists", as they hold to Calvin's view of predestination, and formed around London in 1640.
Yeah, this is important to note. A lot of people think there was one group called "baptists" that then split between "general baptists" and "particular baptists." The more accurate explanation is that two movements popped up roughly around the same time that both called themselves "baptist" however the two groups differed on soteriology and didn't interact much with each other. They were effectively different denominations.
Calvinist still believe in free will, in that you voluntarily choose to sin. Although, if by “free will” you mean that we are random(because that is the only way to not be determined) then I guess you can say we don’t believe in free will.
Actually its a misnomer that that most Baptist today are Reformed Baptists, it’s just that a lot of the Confessional Baptist denominations (the Baptists that strictly adhere to a set historical Confession of Faith) such as the London Baptist Confession (which is based off of the Westminster Confession of Faith from the Presbyterian tradition) are Reformed Baptist - also more Reformed Baptist mega church preachers get more press. But, overall most Baptist denominations and congregations are indifferent when it comes to soteriology. Most major Baptist denominations line the Southern Baptist Convention - SBC (largest Protestant denomination in the USA) and Converge - Baptist General Conference accept all 4 major soteriological views of Arminianism, Provisionism (a.k.a. “traditionalist soteriology” in the SBC), Lutheran (in rare cases - minor prevalence in Converge), and Reformed. Most SBC congregations are either Arminian, Provisionist, or some odd mix of the 4 positions mentioned, and a sizable minority being Reformed.
I find it funny because unlike other country-related names (French kiss, Brazil nuts, Turkish delight...), an Americano (or Caffè americano) in America is called just coffee.
I'm convinced that the Eastern and the Oriental Orthox Church should not have split. The Christology diferences are just different wordings of the same theological belief.
@@areyoutheregoditsmedaveMay I hear why though? All I've heard from Eastern Orthodoxs are "They are different from us on Christology, of which is very important, so they are heretics"
It can actually be argued that the schisms began not during the time of the schism (excommunication, disagreements) but before, when cultures developed on their own and as such, developed their own linguistic and cultural traditions that can be misinterpreted by others. Same goes with the filioque clause, yk.
Great video, just to clarify some things on the Oriental Orthodox We say One Nature, from two Natures - Christ is fully human and fully divine, and say this using the same Christology that St. Cyril of Alexandria did And for the See of Alexandria, the Bishop even prior to the schism was always called “Pope” it’s just a part of the Alexandrian tradition that we have kept until this day
As a Catholic I find the Oriental Orthodox churches (mostly the Ethiopian and Coptic ones) very interested to learn about. Greetings, my brother in Christ
1:07 Slight mistake. Constantinople became "new Rome" after Rome fell, it wasn't just a feeling that everyone gravitated to the East, it was made official.
@michaelmayor4483 Chalcedon Canon 28 makes Constantinople (the church, not just the "state" of the empire) considered New Rome. Remember; Rome had fallen to the Goths and the Visigoths and now the East side of the Roman Empire was made the new head.
Great video! I just have one note. The baptist were congregationalists who were influenced by the moderate anabaptist and split off, becoming baptists, and they founded rode island.
This video is very important. Many people don't know the history of Church denominations. But at the end the true Church si not a bulding or a denomination but the bride of Christ. People who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior.
GREAT!!! I'm not Catholic, but this is the ABSOLUTE BEST video I've seen on 'where all the different denominations come from; plus it's short and FUNNY!
My son was dedicated at our church which is a methodist church. I have no problem with baby baptism. But I want his baptism to be his choice. A symbol of his faith
I always think its good to try and learn new things about others denominations. We often have biases in our heads that are untrue, or get high and mighty thinking we know everything. ❤
@ISLAM_IS_THE_RIGHT_PATH1 Muhammed lacked scriptural understanding of the Bible, no he was called illiterate. Therefore, it was weird for him to write in his quran about Jesus as showed how ignorant and uninformed he was. But the unfortunate thing about is how he misled many many Muslims. For no will go to heaven except through Jesus Christ.
@ISLAM_IS_THE_RIGHT_PATH1islam came 600 years after christianity did, so do you seriously believe some random guy named mohamed about christ over others that actually lived, ate, drank, touched, and talked to him? because believing someone who didn't know anything about christ over the eye witnesses is just.. insane
6:42 not to mention Isaac Watts was Congregationalist, and got a lot of hate for writing hymns we still sing today, like "Joy to the World" and "When I Survey the Wondrous Cross".
Respectfully, your discussion or RC vs Ortho here displays a poor understanding of Roman History in the centuries concerned here (from Constantine to after Theodosius towards the fall of the West). Specifically - shortly after Xtianity was legalised and long before it was the state religion, Constantinople was already a more important capitol than the city of Rome from a political-economic stance.
I think it would help me and probably allot of people out if you actually set Dates every time a new denomination was formed because it gets a little confusing sometimes on how much time has passed
The Catholic church and Eastern Orthodox churches were together, but Eastern church leaders thought teachings of the western church about the nature of the Trinity were heretical, and they split apart.
The filioque was really just the straw that broke the camel's back of an already frayed relationship and they already had a big dispute 200 years early in the Photian Schism.
HOLY CRAP! You finally gave a shout out to us Mennonites! THANK YOU!! Also, I think you can also say that Baptists are Puritans from England who adopted some of the Anabaptist views while fleeing religious persecution in the Netherlands
Considering the situation our world is in, just be happy there are still other Christians to meet and hear. Focus on what connects us, not on what seperates us. God bless you.
This is great. Thanks. Another way to look at it, which could be an interesting video if it could be simplified in this manner, is the history of the bible. How were the different books written, what was the history of discerning what's in and what's out, what is the history of the different translations (i.e. original languages, translation to latin, translation from latin to modern, and translations from original to modern.)
So that you can identify the denomination by the logo. Like how the cross with a circle is Presbyterian, the cross with a heart is Lutheran, the cross with a four-petaled flower is Episcopalian, etc.
Some of them are not official, RZ uses them to distinguish them from each other-the symbols make sense too, the cross with the footrest is a common symbol of the Eastern Orthodox Church, while the one with the heart is most commonly associated with Lutherans
I don’t know the meaning behind most of them, but the Eastern Orthodox cross ☦️ has the two extra bits in reference to other aspects of the cross. For example, I believe the small line at the top is in reference to the plaque Pilot put on the cross that named Christ as the king of the Jews
How was the Seventh Day Adventist church left off this list? They were not part of the reformation but were a mixture of all the different denominations coming together to go back to Jesus' original teachings to the early Christians.
Loved your explanation, to expand this, have you considered talking about denominations that aren't rooted in the early church? For example, JW, LDS Church... They are very prevalent at least where I live and I would love to have a better point of view. Edit: Nevermind, your pinned comment addresses this. Let's go for more views!
Great video! The only issue is the Pentecostal movment started in 1901 at the Topeka Kansas revival not the Azuza Street Revival in 1906. Azuza Street came from the Topeka Revival.
@@redeemedzoomer6053You technically made a "why you're not a Messianic Jew" video than explaining it itself as a sect of the body of Christ - I know you have bias due to being a Presbyterian but I think it's fascinating because they see themselves as splitting off from Rabbinic Judaism and just continuing post-Second Temple Judaism, with the aspect of Jesus as the Messiah and treating the New Testament as canonical (and most disregarding the Talmud as valid interpretation).
@matheuscaneta1194 I know all of that, just saying Messianic Jews don't accept that notion, and disagree that Rabbinic courts should be the standard to determine the age old question of "what is Jew", more arguing it's more about the culture, language and history (and to their perspective, never went away from worshipping the God of Israel).
@wrongsuitnotie8427 I mean this means also discounting non-Catholic demoninations (or non-Orthodox) in this distinction - they do believe that the Church founded by the Apostles were correct, they just think it got corrupted the moment it became a Roman state religion and forcibly remove the Jewish roots of it (forcing Jewish Christians to denounce their Jewishness too). Also the church is just the body of Christ, I don't know why it can't be built independently as long there's one Spirit leading them.
Question from a muslim here, don't wanna debate, don't wanna be rude or anything i swear but like how, after studying the church history or even seeing this video people can still be protestant ? I mean if i would be a christian i would be an orthodox, maybe a catholic, i would choose people who stay on the tradition of the early church and not not some denomination invented 100 years ago ? Again i just want an answer and i don't try to be rude (sorry for my english)
that's what i thought too. i'm also a muslim but if i would be christian i'd definitely choose either catholic or orthodox cause they're basically the only churches who stay on the tradition of the early church which is the church that jesus built (according to the christian belief ofc)
@@sxxfal because the belief is held that the early church or biblical christianity isnt reflected. Thats why, however alot of our protestant churches aren't either. Churches on an individual level are where people need to look
I am a Christian and I really appreciate this comment. It's a complex issue but a big reason people are negative towards Catholicism/Orthodoxy is because of Sola Scriptura, which is very widespread. In addition, there is HUGE misinformation about what the Early Church was. Many people really do believe that 1st century Christianity resembled an American Non Denominational service held in Pastor Bobs living room. I am a former Protestant, I'm so glad God lead me away from those groups. I also have alot if respect for Muslims, they respect the Virgin Mary and Jesus, although of course we disagree on many fundamental things. Compared to what is written in the Talmud....
For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. (2 Corinthians 4:6, ESV) This is the origin of the church.
Will you ever debate someone from the church of the east? I’ve seen you in debates against a lot of Christian denominations but non against the Assyrian church. I think it would be interesting to see.
@@esserman1603 Fair enough but i didn't specifically ask if he would do it on his channel . I want to know if he is willing to do it in general on any channel.
@@geochonker9052 none of the seven ecumenical councils happened in Rome. The prominent Greek Fathers were from Antioch, Jerusalem, Constantinople, etc.
@@geochonker9052 Rome is extremely important of course, but Christianity did not begin there and the most significant events in early Christianity occurred in the East.
As an Egyptian Christian from the Coptic Church, I would like to say that we never deny the nature of the Other God. We believe that when God took on flesh, His divinity was united with humanity. God is fully God and fully human, and human nature and divine nature are united. + Saint John Chrysostom said: “God is not separated from His humanity.” The theology of a single moment or the blink of an eye. The same words were said by Saint George and Saint Basil. We believe in the nature of divinity and the nature of humanity. These two natures are united and not united + I do not know that we, the Orthodox Church, separated even though there was no difference in doctrine and the divinity of Christ, and I believe that there was a misunderstanding in the last council, nothing more and nothing less.✝️☦️☦️✝️i hope we get united again Orthodox church and Catholic church and all christians amen
@@kjuke6 non of your business At least we do not have differences like you do in Islam. We share the same Bible and the same faith, unlike you. Every sect has its own Quran, Hadith books, history, different stories, and a different god. The biggest example is the Shiites. They have a different Quran, a different Islamic history, a different god, and a different hadith.
Is Peter the Rock? In that Matthew 16:18 on this rock, the rock Jesus was talking about was the Revelation that Peter had received that Jesus was the Christ. That Revelation is the rock. Jesus called Peter Petros which is a pebble and the Revelation he called Petra which is a rock like a mountain. The entire passage is talking about Jesus. Not Peter. Also Jesus said “I WILL give” that is future tense so it was not in that very moment. Also just a couple verses later Jesus calls Peter Satan in v23. So if Jesus gave Peter the keys in that moment then Satan immediately had them. And seeing how Jesus said I WILL GIVE which is future tense, then he did NOT give Peter the keys in that moment. The only other time Jesus talks about the keys to the kingdom of heaven he is talking to ALL of the Apostles in Matthew 18. So all of the Apostles received the same “keys” to the kingdom. Peter is not lifted up higher than the other Apostles. So at no point did Jesus give the keys ONLY to Peter. I would say that Apostle Paul is actually the Apostle who had the most keys as he received and gave the most revelation and the most scripture. So we see the Keys are given by God as revelation to born again believers for Binding and Loosing things in the kingdom in Heaven and on earth. The keys are not handed down in papal succession especially since the Pope dies before picking a successor. So how then are the keys handed down? Keys for binding and loosing are given by God via Revelation to individual believers. God shows no partiality or favoritism towards anyone (he is no respector of persons). He gives keys to those who seek after his heart by Faith. The first key being that Jesus is the Christ. This gets you into heaven as you are born again. The keys to the kingdom of heaven are for setting people free from bondage from the devil not to reign over men and women from afar in a castle/mansion.
Yeah no, Catholics resemble nothing of the early church teachings. Orthodox Christians are the unchanged one TRUE church of Jesus Christ and the apostles. Allll the other so called versions of Christianity are mere man-made dilutions and do not come from God. The Orthodox revival is strong as people now realise what's been apparently lost has always existed, just suppressed in the Holy Orthodox Church of Christ
The Council of Trent and the 4th Lateran Council are shining beacons of how great Catholicism is at remaining consistent throughout the centuries. Picking and choosing what you want from your own ecumenical councils and regularly having to point out that the "infallible" popes have a long history of evils and sometimes outright heresy. Let's also not ignore the anti-popes with various levels of legitimacy.
Look at your Catholic head the Pope: he supports gay marriage (forbidden in Romans 1), idolatry (forbidden in Exodus 32), Mary simping (forbidden in Exodus 20:2-5), and so many more stuff that I can write ten paragraphs worth of Roman Catholic heresy. Please dude, just read the Bible and stop listening to your priest for once.
@@TheBassManimalThe issue with orthodoxy is that almost immediately they decided to split from the authority they literally recognized. With the fall of Rome they immediately decided to start their own and ignore the authority they had respect and the authority that HAD NOT left Rome lol.
I just hope he includes baptists with the english separatists ... Also, the reformed baptists trace their history to the puritans in the Church of England
He puts them splitting off the catholic branch is because he wants to put baptist closer to the nestorian church since according to him they have nestorian tendencies.
Puritans are the real Reformed congregationalists, Baptists split between those who followed a more diluted version of anabaptist's believes (General Baptist) and those who diluted It even more by mixing anabaptist believes with reformed believes (Particular Baptist who started calling themselves "Reformed Baptist in the 1960's). But the Church who really have the same Reformed Theology than Presbyterians and Continental Reformed but with a congregational government is the puritan Congregationalist Church.
What is so interesting about it? I mean, lutheranism is basically a "root church" (for the lack of better word) for a pretty big chunk of modern-day churches, therefore it is inherently pretty influential, isn't it?
@matheuscaneta1194 You couldn't be further from the truth. You've been consuming too much pop Roman Catholic apologetics without doing enough research yourself. Luther did not decide the OT canon by himself. Luther, who is so often accused of personally removing these books, included ALL of them in his translation of Die Bibel as well as the Prayer of Manasseh. That would bring Luther’s total to 74 books. Perhaps Lutherans should accuse Roman Catholics of removing one? Rome's canon was very much not closed until Trent. This is evidenced by the fact that numerous Roman Catholic clergy did not view the apocrypha as divinely inspired, but good and beneficial to read. Even Cardinal Cajetan, the man who opposed Luther at his hearings and helped draw up the bill of Luther's excommunication, held this view. Here are his own words: “Here we close our commentaries on the historical books of the Old Testament. For the rest (that is, Judith, Tobit, and the books of Maccabees) are counted by St Jerome out of the canonical books, and are placed amongst the Apocrypha, along with Wisdom and Ecclesiasticus, as is plain from the Prologus Galeatus. Nor be thou disturbed, like a raw scholar, if thou shouldest find anywhere, either in the sacred councils or the sacred doctors, these books reckoned as canonical. For the words as well of councils as of doctors are to be reduced to the correction of Jerome. Now, according to his judgment, in the epistle to the bishops Chromatius and Heliodorus, these books (and any other like books in the canon of the Bible) are not canonical, that is, not in the nature of a rule for confirming matters of faith. Yet, they may be called canonical, that is, in the nature of a rule for the edification of the faithful, as being received and authorised in the canon of the Bible for that purpose. By the help of this distinction thou mayest see thy way clearly through that which Augustine says, and what is written in the provincial council of Carthage.” In fact, at the Council of Trent, the vote to settle on the 73-book cannon that the Roman church uses today was 24 for, 15 against, and 16 abstained. More people abstained or voted against that canon than actually voted in favor of it. That alone should tell you that the canonicity of the apocrypha was not settled even up through the counter-reformation. Historically, the church didn't necessarily view the Bible as a set table of contents, but as a rule and guide for the Faith. Lutherans and many orthodox groups actually don't have a closed cannon that specifies the books of the Old and New Testaments. If quelling the Reformation was not the main underlying motive for calling the council of Trent, Rome's cannon most likely would have remained open, too.
@matheuscaneta1194 Protestants use the OT canon by Melito of Sardis (oldest christian OT canon), with the addition of Esther (even though Esther contains nothing about God & not cited in the NT, it has a typology that many early Christians liked). We see that the councils have contradicted each other over the years and their conflicts have been infected by secular politics. Your councils are not infallible - but they *can* be inerrant.
@@VasiliyOgniov We Lutherans hold that our Church was founded by Jesus Christ Himself, what we teach is nothing new; we are the one true Church and Rome, as well as the Eastern Orthodox and Coptic (and all Protestants) fell away from us. We hold exclusivity in being the One True Church, but we don't hold to institutional exclusivity on salvific matters.
I disagree with the videos take on the Restorationist/Stone-Campbell movement because, even if they say they don’t follow creeds, a good chunk of them unintentionally do and are found within traditional Christian orthodoxy, where their beliefs are not too far apart from other Protestant (Mainline, Evangelical, and Fundamentalist) traditions - they’re a decent mix of several denominational traditions then evolved into their own tradition - but then again due to the lack of creeds (or maybe even statements of faith) a lot of bad theology can easily enter without being officially subscribed to by the whole tradition at large. Although some subdivisions within the Restorationist movement like the Church of Christ (I believe) have weird theology around not using instruments in church, certain fundamentalist Presbyterians also share similar weird theology surrounding music in church even to the extent of singing Psalms only like Psalms-only Presbyterians.
Am Church of Christ, yeah we're acapella only. I'm specifically non-institutional. Some of the mainlines probably do it, but a lot of our existance as specifically CoC is due to this difference. Most groups with similar theology tend to use instruments. It's worth mentioning we just don't think the creeds are binding so we won't identify ourselves with them. The content may overlap, but at least as far as we know, we aren't doing it because of a creed existing. While personally I don't find the music too weird (and we do have a basis in Scripture for it), we do tend to get very reactionary. There's also no hierachy outside the local church so it doesn't really have a check on it. The other local churches will just quit being socially involved with your members or refuse your preacher for a gospel meeting. There's some bizzare takes that have gotten popular. There's just nothing to stop a snowball escalating. If the tensions get too high, the congregation splits. Then it grows, finds more differences, and people leave again.
The Bible says to find a church where you can be fully convinced in your own mind that Jesus is your Lord and Savior! That’s the right church for you! We all don’t think the exact same way…..so there are are variety of churches to find Jesus for yourself. God is good He wants us all to believe! Some can believe in a Baptist Church…..some can believe in a Catholic Church! It’s all good!
I agree with you that it is good for everyone to worship God, but at the same time, he has revealed how he wants us to worship, which most denominations have disregarded and turned from.
Having been raised Church of Christ honestly I think it sounds worse on paper than it actually is. Go to few a CoCs and a few Baptist churches and you’ll be hard pressed to find the difference. Plus despite the initial anti-creedal origins Church of Christ is still Trinitarian with baptisms that even Catholic Church recognizes as legitimate
Right? Worth mentioning that the CoC broke off from Presbyterianism. Very hard to see a difference between the Baptist/nondenominational route of breaking off from a Protestant denomination, mostly rejecting creedalism, embracing a more independent, low church structure, rejecting Lutheran views of communion, and becoming credo-baptist with that of the CoC. I think RZ may just be salty that the CoC was made from a group of Reformed Christians who reformed too hard.
Yes, the Catholic church believes once baptized, always baptized. It's a work of God and the Holy Spirit. If a person is baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Just a little friendly agreement❤
The Churches of Christ formed from a bunch of Presbyterians in the restoration. Could you not say they are connected to the early church due to this? They confess what is in the creeds but do not do the creeds themselves. In other words, the creeds are upheld just not recited.
I disagree with the videos take on the Restorationist/Stone-Campbell movement because, even if they say they don’t follow creeds, a good chunk of them unintentionally do and are found within traditional Christian orthodoxy, where their beliefs are not too far apart from other Protestant (Mainline, Evangelical, and Fundamentalist) traditions - they’re a decent mix of several denominational traditions then evolved into their own tradition - but then again due to the lack of creeds (or maybe even statements of faith) a lot of bad theology can easily enter without being officially subscribed to by the whole tradition at large. Although some subdivisions within the Restorationist movement like the Church of Christ (I believe) have weird theology around not using instruments in church, certain fundamentalist Presbyterians also share similar weird theology surrounding music in church even to the extent of singing Psalms only like Psalms-only Presbyterians.
Good explanation of the Baptists. I believe Baptists come from the Anglicans through John Smyth (1570). Just because they had similar beliefs as the Anabaptists doesn't mean they are from the same group.
It's complicated further by Smyth's decision to become an Anabaptist *after* forming the Baptist church. Thomas Helwys decided not to join the Mennonites, so Baptists never formally merged with Anabaptists to become a single tradition.
This is very useful as someo who plans on changing churches when i move it. Gotta lovr when Redeemed Zoomer says "zooming time" and just zooms all over the place!
Fact: Orthodox and Catholic are pre-denominational. The Greek Orthodox Church is by far the oldest. Everything else is from that root. The Catholic Church is an 11th century offshoot of the real Roman Church ("Byzantine" is a Catholic propaganda word). The historic Church is not even debatable, we know who they are, unbroken since the beginning. In fact, the Greek Orthodox Patriarch in Constantinople is the only official Roman office still open, having never been closed even by the Ottomans, for 1,800 years.
The first church started in Jerusalem, at Pentecost 33 AD with James the Just chosen as the first pope or leader. That church still exists today, as the Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem. St Peter founded the church in Antioch (East Orthodox) 34 AD before starting the church in Rome (Roman Catholic). There were 5 original church Patriarchs. Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, Constantinople, and Rome. During the Great Schism, everyone sided together except Rome, being the lone dissident.
If you want to go back that far then neither Jerusalem, Alexandria nor Antioch are Greek because their real successors are Copts and Syriacs. The Greek bishops of those Sees were imposed by Constantinople.
5 Steps to Practical Spiritual Growth 1. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments, with a neutral mind) 2. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments) 3. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments) 4. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments) 5. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments) You now know a lot about what is written and what is not written. Put into practice what you have learned. Continue. Then take the next five Steps: 6. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments) 7. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments) 8. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments) 9. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments) 10. Read the whole Bible (completely, without comments) Now you have solid ground under your feet. Continue ... Then study true history.
An interesting fact about the Amish is that in some communities the Amish identity is/has separated from the Anabaptist identity. For some, their lifestyle is not because of their faith, but simply how their family lives.
Anglicanism is a form of Christianity that originated in Britain as far back as the 1st or 2nd century. According to tradition, Joseph of Arimathea brought the gospel to Britain after Christ’s resurrection. Though little is known about its earliest foundations, records indicate that British bishops attended some of the earliest church councils, including those at Arles (314) and Nicaea (325).
@ISLAM_IS_THE_RIGHT_PATH1 John 3:16-18 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.”
Using the image of Mari Emmanuel to represent the Assyrian Church of the East is wrong as he is twice removed from that church... originally he was a part of the "Ancient Church of the East" which split from the Assyrian Church of the East in 1964, and he's since just started his own Christ the Good Shepherd Church in 2015...
@Kenny-mu2xb well think of it like thise Jesus is the Christ The son of God And God in flesh God loved us so much he willingly put himself on earth and lived his life in servitude And died the most painful brutal death in history of betrayal and had the sins all of them put on him And God wills that not one person be lost He loved us to that degree And if thats true And he knew the beginning to the end dont you think he would have cleared up the intellectual issues we have today? Considering most of the gospels share the same message and information id imagine if it was as important as salvation from hell the apostles would have written them down as spoken by our Lord
Thats why i really dont like exclusivist christians (mostly catholic and orthodox). Despite our differences, in the end we praise the same God and have the same principles on essentials. Awful exclusivists 😒.
@@D4rkmatter Let’s be honest with ourselves, we believe in an exclusive Gospel if we believe Scripture. Narrow is the way, few find it, the path to destruction is wide, etc. Knowing the right Gospel message is essential, that’s why Paul says a different Gospel, even if it’s from an angel, should be ignored.
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If this video gets 1 million views I'll make a video covering every HERETICAL "Christian" sect/cult. So like and share!
6:03 you misspelled independent
@redeemedzoomer6053 Grüß Dich! I just watched this great video. I constantly thought about Godʼs role and plan for his covenant in this. Can you extract any theology from this? I even think the latter example with the milk mixing in with tea to create a temporal creative complexity before fading into entropy might be even used in a moral argument but idk ua-cam.com/video/DxL2HoqLbyA/v-deo.htmlsi=Kj0RCohx2AmkDLeO
You got rebutted by The Catacumen UA-cam channel on your video of Solo Scriptura (it's a part 1 and 2 video) God bless and may you have a blessed day!
On a related note, can you explain some questionable books that aren't in the bible? In particularly books referenced in Jude, where he talks about angels being imprisoned, archangel michael and satan fighting over moses' body, and prophesies of enoch. One explanation I saw was that jude was just giving examples from popular literature like a pastor would in his sermons, but you don't put random pastor sermons in the Bible, everything in it comes from divine inspiration.
@@Aisjdn@redeemedzoomer6053 this man is spamming your comment section
Love it when John the Methodist said "It's methoding time" and then proceeded to method all over the place. Truly a moment of all time.
The beauty of this meme 😂
Or the part when John Knox said "It's Presbytering time!" and presbytered all over the place. Truly one of the electronic storages of all time.
@@FireklahcsettoGit's Lutherin' time! (Proceeds to Luther all over the place).
John the methodist was also known as method man for short
This is why I’m Methodist
"A bunch of calvinists got too calvinist for other calvinists."
A recurring problem. 😂
Where?
@@Aisjdnyou got us!
@@Aisjdntroll
Well God willed it so....
It was predestined to happen.
As a Catholic. Pray for unity. Christianity is Christianity and your faith in Christ is what should come first.
As a Christian of the Catholic faith the holy Eucharist is the source and summit of our faith.
In Indonesia we use an eukomenist bible, though our Catholic bro and sis adds the deutrocanonica in theirs
Nope sadly it isn't, For the bible teaches otherwise ..
@@tornadonextgen8306 maybe reformed version, not the canonical one, enumerated and approved by Catholic Church in 382 a.d.
The Catholic Church is not mentioned in the Bible. Nor are denominations. But what is mentioned is that we all are to be born again, claim Jesus Christ as our personal savior and abide in his grace free to all not of works lest any man boast.
Denominations are not mentioned in the Bible. There is only one church, God's church with Christ at its head. The Church Of God. No matter what physical church you attend, if you are born again and claim Jesus Christ as your personal savior, you are a member of The Church Of God. The Church Of God is mentioned over and over again in scripture: Let’s read 1 Corinthians 1:2:
“To the church of God which is in Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, the called saints.”
1 Timothy 3:15 ESV / 21 helpful votes
If I delay, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, a pillar and buttress of the truth.
1 Corinthians 11:22 ESV / 18 helpful votes
What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I commend you in this? No, I will not.
Acts 20:28 - Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
1 Corinthians 3:17 - If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Ephesians 2:19 KJV
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
1 Corinthians 15:9 KJV
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
can we all pray for the person replying to every single comment saying that "Jesus isn't the messiah"? let me also take this opportunity to say that we shouldn't be getting into a fight with him (or her) or trying to engage, but let us pray that the truth may be revealed to him (or her) by the glory of God.
Well said.
Well said❤
Amen
I’m a Muslim and we do believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) is the true Messiah, he didn’t die yet cuz we believe in the ascension and we also believe in the second coming of Jesus and we are the true followers of him to kill the Antichrist.
Muslims believe in one god just like Jesus said in the bible “Your God is one”
Ibrahim,Moses, Jesus and Mohammed (peace be upon them all) were prophets sent by God to guide us but they are NOT Gods.
@@NearestGalaxy thank you for the peace, I’ve heard that from a muslim perspective that Jesus was never crucified but was taken? Not too sure just curious what you know. I will forever believe in my faith however one thing I noticed is you mentioned that Jesus is seen as a God, another christian may have a better perspective but Jesus was the human embodiment of God and the holy spirit is the spirit of God, forming the holy trinity (same entity different embodiment). I am aware that in the muslim faith its acknowledged that both Jesus and Mohammed are prophets, but in Christianity Jesus was not a prophet but the son of God, not flesh birthing flesh sort of way yet specifically the human embodiment of God. Naturally we will have different views and opinions but thank you for your view! My best friend is a muslim but doesn't practice much but we never let our differences get in the way!
I met an ex Jehovah Witness who converted to Unitarian. He still went door to door, but had nothing to say.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like a Steven Wright line.
I didn’t think one could downgrade from a JW but here we are
@matheuscaneta1194 They aren’t the same thing according to RZ, JWs technically still believe in God but most Unitarians just consider God a useful idea to inspire people to do social justice and such-they’re also very different in their theology, rules, etc.
*Universal Unitarian
@@johannthedeceitful5968 You're thinking of universalism. Unitarianism is the belief iirc that Jesus isn't God and he was only created by God.
We gotta pray for unity.
Amen. At worst, let us be unity in our charity towards Christians with different beliefs, but ideally we should work to agree and resolve differences
yes
Despite the differences between these churches, we are one in that we worship the One who sets us free.
@@Kenny-mu2xb I def think that with the community Zoomer has revealed and gathered within the Church, more and more Christians are becoming more accpeting of each other!!
In Mark 9: 38-41 Jesus explicitly condones other fellowships and says that as long as you are received well because you belong to Christ, that Church is of the True Church and its followers will not lose their reward.
Whoever is not against us is for us.
If it wasn’t founded by Christ at Pentecost, it isn’t the one true Church
amen
All of the churches in the image came from this same Church.
Christ/Jesus never formed a church, he just taught others how to be good.
Edit: For those citing the Bible, it only says he would “built” a church, never states he did.
Anyone who follows the teaching of Jesus and his good news is a member of the church
When did jesus create a church?
"A bunch of calvinists got too calvinist for other calvinists."
A problem that still plagues the various Presbyterian churches to this day
I second you, in every sect as a matter of fact. You will find some just a bit too extreme.
It's not a Presb, problem, it's a doctrine problem. Hyper Calvinism is the more logical version taking over.
I loved this. Sums up what I was learning recently. This was great
Hey guys, I'm Armenian Apostolic, proud to be from the first official Christian country!!!! Exciting right!?!?!?!?!?!? Aight I love you guys so much! Thanks for the video man I love all ur videos that I watched so far (this is my second one). Hopefully I can get to finish watching tomorrow but it's 10:54PM in Canada right now I'm super tired. Love you, God Bless! He was and is and is to come!
Your liturgy is even older than our liturgy which is the divine liturgy of st john chrysostom. Love from greek orthodox.
As an Egyptian Christian from the Coptic Church, I would like to say that we never deny the nature of the Other God. We believe that when God took on flesh, His divinity was united with humanity. God is fully God and fully human, and human nature and divine nature are united. + Saint John Chrysostom said: “God is not separated from His humanity The theology of a single moment or the blink of an eye. The same words were said by Saint George and Saint Basil. And We believe in the nature of divinity and the nature of humanity. These two natures are united and + I do not know that we, the Orthodox Church, separated even though there was no difference in doctrine and the divinity of Christ, and I believe that there was a misunderstanding in the last council, nothing more and nothing less.✝️☦️☦️✝️i hope we get united again Orthodox church and Catholic church and all christians amen
Edit : thank you all guys for that Good comments ❤️❤️❤️
I believe the Coptic Patriarch was not at the council of Chalcedon, and did not decide to agree with it later on, so they basically booted out the Coptic church. Something similar happened with the Assyrians.
Roman and Orthodox unite!
Unfortunately this was mostly a big translation and language barrier more than anything else.
I’m an assyrian Catholic and believe the same, it was a matter of language misunderstanding.
@@Walkwithchristus Did Mar Mari Emmanuel get kicked out again?
Very good video! I’m a Catholic myself, and from my point of view most of the information is pretty accurate. Thank you for being intellectually honest.
On the Baptists, you got us mostly right, but there were two major parts of us. The General Baptists had communion with the Anabaptists after splitting from the Church of England around 1600, and believed in free will, the Particular Baptists that came later, and they were much more Calvinistic. Most Particular Baptists are now called "Reformed Baptists", as they hold to Calvin's view of predestination, and formed around London in 1640.
Yeah, this is important to note. A lot of people think there was one group called "baptists" that then split between "general baptists" and "particular baptists." The more accurate explanation is that two movements popped up roughly around the same time that both called themselves "baptist" however the two groups differed on soteriology and didn't interact much with each other. They were effectively different denominations.
Calvinist still believe in free will, in that you voluntarily choose to sin. Although, if by “free will” you mean that we are random(because that is the only way to not be determined) then I guess you can say we don’t believe in free will.
YEah I always get a bit confused in his videos,my baptist church split off from a Methodist church.
It sounds like Anabaptists are like Christian anarchists, anti-tradition and anti-authority (except for God)
Actually its a misnomer that that most Baptist today are Reformed Baptists, it’s just that a lot of the Confessional Baptist denominations (the Baptists that strictly adhere to a set historical Confession of Faith) such as the London Baptist Confession (which is based off of the Westminster Confession of Faith from the Presbyterian tradition) are Reformed Baptist - also more Reformed Baptist mega church preachers get more press.
But, overall most Baptist denominations and congregations are indifferent when it comes to soteriology. Most major Baptist denominations line the Southern Baptist Convention - SBC (largest Protestant denomination in the USA) and Converge - Baptist General Conference accept all 4 major soteriological views of Arminianism, Provisionism (a.k.a. “traditionalist soteriology” in the SBC), Lutheran (in rare cases - minor prevalence in Converge), and Reformed. Most SBC congregations are either Arminian, Provisionist, or some odd mix of the 4 positions mentioned, and a sizable minority being Reformed.
Sorry but are we gonna talk about the way RZ says “Coffee”
@@Aisjdn Right, and you’re not a bot scrolling down and replying that that to every conceivable comment-oh wait
He’s a NY Jew. He has to say Kwafee
@@Marc.1776. True. Btw want some coauwfee brother
I was just about to say.
I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT ABOUT THAT LMAO
Adding water to espresso doesn't make regular coffee, it makes an americano.
Which honestly is even better for a description of the Baptist Church. Considering it’s predominantly dominant in the United States.
well, ackshually....🤓☝
Sorry, someone had to do it
Well, that's a pretty smooth analogy, if I do say so myself.
When I was in Rome, I had to ask for "American coffee" because I don't like strong coffee. My coffee was one thing I missed while we were there.
I find it funny because unlike other country-related names (French kiss, Brazil nuts, Turkish delight...), an Americano (or Caffè americano) in America is called just coffee.
I'm convinced that the Eastern and the Oriental Orthox Church should not have split. The Christology diferences are just different wordings of the same theological belief.
You'd be shocked how common this is.
it may appear so to your modern, uninvested, rationalist mind. but it a huge Christological difference and matters deeply.
@@areyoutheregoditsmedaveMay I hear why though? All I've heard from Eastern Orthodoxs are "They are different from us on Christology, of which is very important, so they are heretics"
We've had joint agreements and our bishops agree that we profess the same thing but just worded it differently
It can actually be argued that the schisms began not during the time of the schism (excommunication, disagreements) but before, when cultures developed on their own and as such, developed their own linguistic and cultural traditions that can be misinterpreted by others. Same goes with the filioque clause, yk.
Great video, just to clarify some things on the Oriental Orthodox
We say One Nature, from two Natures - Christ is fully human and fully divine, and say this using the same Christology that St. Cyril of Alexandria did
And for the See of Alexandria, the Bishop even prior to the schism was always called “Pope” it’s just a part of the Alexandrian tradition that we have kept until this day
@@Aisjdn bruh have you even read the Bible?
@@NikhilisHerehe’s a troll. Spamming everywhere
As a fellow Copt, a better way to describe it is one nature from two essences. Your video submission was excellent by the way!
Hello
As a Catholic I find the Oriental Orthodox churches (mostly the Ethiopian and Coptic ones) very interested to learn about. Greetings, my brother in Christ
Can you make a video about your view on Noah's flood? I would really like to hear your opinion as a Christian who believes in evolution
Yes!
Yeah I like this idea
@@spiffygonzales5160 you share my opinion
@@spiffygonzales5160flat earth isn't a theory
I think you don't know what a theory is
@@Aisjdn which one did he not do
We are all Christians. Let's join in the name of Jesus
1:07 Slight mistake. Constantinople became "new Rome" after Rome fell, it wasn't just a feeling that everyone gravitated to the East, it was made official.
Chalcedon Canon 28 ayo?
With Constantine and his alleged conversion is when the church in Rome what we would call the Catholic church really started IMO
@michaelmayor4483 Chalcedon Canon 28 makes Constantinople (the church, not just the "state" of the empire) considered New Rome. Remember; Rome had fallen to the Goths and the Visigoths and now the East side of the Roman Empire was made the new head.
And they never mentioned the Eastern Catholics. Not all Catholics are Roman Catholics, and not all Eastern rites are Orthodox. #ByzantineCatholic 😊
Well when one Christian Denomination loves another Christian denomination very much...
you mean hates
@@thatonecheesyguy No we mean disagrees with.
@@docterwithane8300No we mean had a mild difference with
I'm Baptist God bless You all
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾
His grace and mercy be upon you and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯
Love these videos which help me understand denominations 🤩
Great video! I just have one note. The baptist were congregationalists who were influenced by the moderate anabaptist and split off, becoming baptists, and they founded rode island.
Baptists formed when the KJV (66-books) descended from the sky in a casserole dish on Pentacost.
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Ok that is a funny joke
Baptist one true church?????
Origanl KJV have 72 books
@@christcolumbus9555 smh that's not what Pastor Jimmy John says
This video is very important. Many people don't know the history of Church denominations. But at the end the true Church si not a bulding or a denomination but the bride of Christ. People who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior.
Yep
All religions lead to hell, and hell is not even real; but religion says it is real. Lots of 🐑
@@Peanuts-and-corn what scripture is that
GREAT!!! I'm not Catholic, but this is the ABSOLUTE BEST video I've seen on 'where all the different denominations come from; plus it's short and FUNNY!
My son was dedicated at our church which is a methodist church. I have no problem with baby baptism. But I want his baptism to be his choice. A symbol of his faith
I always think its good to try and learn new things about others denominations. We often have biases in our heads that are untrue, or get high and mighty thinking we know everything. ❤
@ISLAM_IS_THE_RIGHT_PATH1 Muhammed lacked scriptural understanding of the Bible, no he was called illiterate. Therefore, it was weird for him to write in his quran about Jesus as showed how ignorant and uninformed he was. But the unfortunate thing about is how he misled many many Muslims. For no will go to heaven except through Jesus Christ.
@ISLAM_IS_THE_RIGHT_PATH1islam came 600 years after christianity did, so do you seriously believe some random guy named mohamed about christ over others that actually lived, ate, drank, touched, and talked to him? because believing someone who didn't know anything about christ over the eye witnesses is just.. insane
You actually make this stuff INTERESTING!!! And also, a nice touch at the end on unity. Plus, you remind me of a tv show called Adam Ruins Everything!
6:42 not to mention Isaac Watts was Congregationalist, and got a lot of hate for writing hymns we still sing today, like "Joy to the World" and "When I Survey the Wondrous Cross".
Respectfully, your discussion or RC vs Ortho here displays a poor understanding of Roman History in the centuries concerned here (from Constantine to after Theodosius towards the fall of the West).
Specifically - shortly after Xtianity was legalised and long before it was the state religion, Constantinople was already a more important capitol than the city of Rome from a political-economic stance.
this
+1
Fantastic! Very informative and the comedic moments are superb!
I am so excited.
I think it would help me and probably allot of people out if you actually set Dates every time a new denomination was formed because it gets a little confusing sometimes on how much time has passed
The Catholic church and Eastern Orthodox churches were together, but Eastern church leaders thought teachings of the western church about the nature of the Trinity were heretical, and they split apart.
The filioque was really just the straw that broke the camel's back of an already frayed relationship and they already had a big dispute 200 years early in the Photian Schism.
HOLY CRAP! You finally gave a shout out to us Mennonites! THANK YOU!!
Also, I think you can also say that Baptists are Puritans from England who adopted some of the Anabaptist views while fleeing religious persecution in the Netherlands
6:21 You can really tell this guy is from New York by his "Coufey" accent
Orthodox are the true original church of Christ with Saints and Prophets till today preserving the ancient faith
this video is actually even better than expected :))
God bless you RZ !
No it is not..read my comments.
See ya later
I was thinking about making this video! Awesome work.
"Regular Baptist Cawfee" XD
Thank you for your time and effort conveying your study of Church History. This is genuinely helpful
Considering the situation our world is in, just be happy there are still other Christians to meet and hear. Focus on what connects us, not on what seperates us. God bless you.
0:01 start of a banger.
@@Aisjdnyou don’t know the prophecies then
Which ones did he not fulfill? @@Aisjdn
This is great. Thanks. Another way to look at it, which could be an interesting video if it could be simplified in this manner, is the history of the bible. How were the different books written, what was the history of discerning what's in and what's out, what is the history of the different translations (i.e. original languages, translation to latin, translation from latin to modern, and translations from original to modern.)
Can you please make a video explaining why each denomination has a different cross
So that you can identify the denomination by the logo. Like how the cross with a circle is Presbyterian, the cross with a heart is Lutheran, the cross with a four-petaled flower is Episcopalian, etc.
these are not the official denominations logos
Some of them are not official, RZ uses them to distinguish them from each other-the symbols make sense too, the cross with the footrest is a common symbol of the Eastern Orthodox Church, while the one with the heart is most commonly associated with Lutherans
@@johannthedeceitful5968 oh i see, thank you
I don’t know the meaning behind most of them, but the Eastern Orthodox cross ☦️ has the two extra bits in reference to other aspects of the cross. For example, I believe the small line at the top is in reference to the plaque Pilot put on the cross that named Christ as the king of the Jews
How was the Seventh Day Adventist church left off this list? They were not part of the reformation but were a mixture of all the different denominations coming together to go back to Jesus' original teachings to the early Christians.
Aren't they heretical?
Loved your explanation, to expand this, have you considered talking about denominations that aren't rooted in the early church? For example, JW, LDS Church... They are very prevalent at least where I live and I would love to have a better point of view. Edit: Nevermind, your pinned comment addresses this. Let's go for more views!
Great video! The only issue is the Pentecostal movment started in 1901 at the Topeka Kansas revival not the Azuza Street Revival in 1906. Azuza Street came from the Topeka Revival.
You should do a video of Clergy orders and laypeople there abilities and tiers
@@Aisjdntry to justify your blasphemy
Could you do a video about Messianic Jews. Are they Christian? What separates them from being a Christian?
I did
@@redeemedzoomer6053I think you should use one day of the week to promote your olders videos. People often ask you to do a video you already did.
@@redeemedzoomer6053You technically made a "why you're not a Messianic Jew" video than explaining it itself as a sect of the body of Christ - I know you have bias due to being a Presbyterian but I think it's fascinating because they see themselves as splitting off from Rabbinic Judaism and just continuing post-Second Temple Judaism, with the aspect of Jesus as the Messiah and treating the New Testament as canonical (and most disregarding the Talmud as valid interpretation).
@matheuscaneta1194 I know all of that, just saying Messianic Jews don't accept that notion, and disagree that Rabbinic courts should be the standard to determine the age old question of "what is Jew", more arguing it's more about the culture, language and history (and to their perspective, never went away from worshipping the God of Israel).
@wrongsuitnotie8427 I mean this means also discounting non-Catholic demoninations (or non-Orthodox) in this distinction - they do believe that the Church founded by the Apostles were correct, they just think it got corrupted the moment it became a Roman state religion and forcibly remove the Jewish roots of it (forcing Jewish Christians to denounce their Jewishness too).
Also the church is just the body of Christ, I don't know why it can't be built independently as long there's one Spirit leading them.
I'm Messianic, I am wondering if you have a video explaining how the New and Old covenants are separate?
...that was great! I love the humor!
Question from a muslim here, don't wanna debate, don't wanna be rude or anything i swear but like how, after studying the church history or even seeing this video people can still be protestant ? I mean if i would be a christian i would be an orthodox, maybe a catholic, i would choose people who stay on the tradition of the early church and not not some denomination invented 100 years ago ? Again i just want an answer and i don't try to be rude (sorry for my english)
that's what i thought too. i'm also a muslim but if i would be christian i'd definitely choose either catholic or orthodox cause they're basically the only churches who stay on the tradition of the early church which is the church that jesus built (according to the christian belief ofc)
@@gilaradi6337 yess exactly
@@sxxfal because the belief is held that the early church or biblical christianity isnt reflected. Thats why, however alot of our protestant churches aren't either. Churches on an individual level are where people need to look
I am a Christian and I really appreciate this comment. It's a complex issue but a big reason people are negative towards Catholicism/Orthodoxy is because of Sola Scriptura, which is very widespread. In addition, there is HUGE misinformation about what the Early Church was. Many people really do believe that 1st century Christianity resembled an American Non Denominational service held in Pastor Bobs living room. I am a former Protestant, I'm so glad God lead me away from those groups. I also have alot if respect for Muslims, they respect the Virgin Mary and Jesus, although of course we disagree on many fundamental things. Compared to what is written in the Talmud....
@@CherryDreamer96 yeah i see, thanks for your answer !
For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. (2 Corinthians 4:6, ESV) This is the origin of the church.
Will you ever debate someone from the church of the east? I’ve seen you in debates against a lot of Christian denominations but non against the Assyrian church. I think it would be interesting to see.
I’ve only done debates against baptists and Lutherans
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I've seen you in many other debates with for example eastern orthodox and even one time with oriental orthodox to.
@@MNN1991 I think he means on his channel. The ones against Eastern Orthodoxy were one Kyle's channel.
@@esserman1603 Fair enough but i didn't specifically ask if he would do it on his channel . I want to know if he is willing to do it in general on any channel.
@@Aisjdn He fulfilled so many prophecies. Which prophecy did He not fulfil?
This is an excellent summary overview - accurate & fair ! Well done sir
@ISLAM_IS_THE_RIGHT_PATH1 Sure buddy, We all see what Islam is about. No thanks.
It’s is time for us all to unite the enemy has and is here spread the word as our Lord is sooner to return than we all know
Why do you start with Rome when Christianity started in the East (Jerusalem and Antioch)??
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Rome is where Christianity centered around and spready from, also where most of the big meetings and splits occurred.
@@geochonker9052 none of the seven ecumenical councils happened in Rome. The prominent Greek Fathers were from Antioch, Jerusalem, Constantinople, etc.
@@geochonker9052 Rome is extremely important of course, but Christianity did not begin there and the most significant events in early Christianity occurred in the East.
@@drjanitor3747 I agree; it’s a big deal
As an Egyptian Christian from the Coptic Church, I would like to say that we never deny the nature of the Other God. We believe that when God took on flesh, His divinity was united with humanity. God is fully God and fully human, and human nature and divine nature are united. + Saint John Chrysostom said: “God is not separated from His humanity.” The theology of a single moment or the blink of an eye. The same words were said by Saint George and Saint Basil. We believe in the nature of divinity and the nature of humanity. These two natures are united and not united + I do not know that we, the Orthodox Church, separated even though there was no difference in doctrine and the divinity of Christ, and I believe that there was a misunderstanding in the last council, nothing more and nothing less.✝️☦️☦️✝️i hope we get united again Orthodox church and Catholic church and all christians amen
united in heaven inshallah 😂
@@kjuke6 non of your business At least we do not have differences like you do in Islam. We share the same Bible and the same faith, unlike you. Every sect has its own Quran, Hadith books, history, different stories, and a different god. The biggest example is the Shiites. They have a different Quran, a different Islamic history, a different god, and a different hadith.
Maybe it's not about which denomination , but the denominations we made along the way ❤😂🎉
Can you maybe make a Video about scorseses silence? I love your Videos btw
@Aisjdn Enough spam.
I’m sorry, but I’m just gonna stick with the original Catholicism
Same with the Original Orthodoxy
Neither of these are the original but you do you
I’m oriental orthodox Eritrean to be exact
@@Freebreakfst21that is the true church my OO brother the rest do not follow the ecumenical councils and fathers well
It was nice of you to include the picture of Bishop Mari Emmanuel. Man really is a G.
People worship their church and their denomination, their leaders and priests instead of Jesus, it's sad to see
Unite the Churches and just look forward to Christ and nothing else. Shame on us Christians.
The only reason you know who Jesus is is because of the traditions of Christianity teaching you.
Jesus founded one Church on the Apostles. The traditions of the Apostles are found in no Church but the Catholic Church
no they don't lol
C'est la raison pour laquelle je ne suis plus chrétien
Ex Coptic :)
Could you do a video on the church of Christ, I think you skip over a lot of it usually
Great video! Greetings from an Orthodox from Serbia!☦️
Greetings from a Catholic in America! ✝️
Not even religious but find the history interesting. Cool video!
Catholic: it came from Jesus and the apostles. You know, the ones who actually matter when it comes to Christianity.
Is Peter the Rock?
In that Matthew 16:18 on this rock, the rock Jesus was talking about was the Revelation that Peter had received that Jesus was the Christ. That Revelation is the rock. Jesus called Peter Petros which is a pebble and the Revelation he called Petra which is a rock like a mountain. The entire passage is talking about Jesus. Not Peter.
Also Jesus said “I WILL give” that is future tense so it was not in that very moment.
Also just a couple verses later Jesus calls Peter Satan in v23. So if Jesus gave Peter the keys in that moment then Satan immediately had them. And seeing how Jesus said I WILL GIVE which is future tense, then he did NOT give Peter the keys in that moment.
The only other time Jesus talks about the keys to the kingdom of heaven he is talking to ALL of the Apostles in Matthew 18. So all of the Apostles received the same “keys” to the kingdom. Peter is not lifted up higher than the other Apostles. So at no point did Jesus give the keys ONLY to Peter.
I would say that Apostle Paul is actually the Apostle who had the most keys as he received and gave the most revelation and the most scripture.
So we see the Keys are given by God as revelation to born again believers for Binding and Loosing things in the kingdom in Heaven and on earth.
The keys are not handed down in papal succession especially since the Pope dies before picking a successor. So how then are the keys handed down?
Keys for binding and loosing are given by God via Revelation to individual believers. God shows no partiality or favoritism towards anyone (he is no respector of persons). He gives keys to those who seek after his heart by Faith. The first key being that Jesus is the Christ. This gets you into heaven as you are born again.
The keys to the kingdom of heaven are for setting people free from bondage from the devil not to reign over men and women from afar in a castle/mansion.
Yeah no, Catholics resemble nothing of the early church teachings.
Orthodox Christians are the unchanged one TRUE church of Jesus Christ and the apostles. Allll the other so called versions of Christianity are mere man-made dilutions and do not come from God.
The Orthodox revival is strong as people now realise what's been apparently lost has always existed, just suppressed in the Holy Orthodox Church of Christ
The Council of Trent and the 4th Lateran Council are shining beacons of how great Catholicism is at remaining consistent throughout the centuries. Picking and choosing what you want from your own ecumenical councils and regularly having to point out that the "infallible" popes have a long history of evils and sometimes outright heresy. Let's also not ignore the anti-popes with various levels of legitimacy.
Look at your Catholic head the Pope: he supports gay marriage (forbidden in Romans 1), idolatry (forbidden in Exodus 32), Mary simping (forbidden in Exodus 20:2-5), and so many more stuff that I can write ten paragraphs worth of Roman Catholic heresy.
Please dude, just read the Bible and stop listening to your priest for once.
@@TheBassManimalThe issue with orthodoxy is that almost immediately they decided to split from the authority they literally recognized. With the fall of Rome they immediately decided to start their own and ignore the authority they had respect and the authority that HAD NOT left Rome lol.
I just hope he includes baptists with the english separatists ...
Also, the reformed baptists trace their history to the puritans in the Church of England
He puts them splitting off the catholic branch is because he wants to put baptist closer to the nestorian church since according to him they have nestorian tendencies.
Puritans are the real Reformed congregationalists, Baptists split between those who followed a more diluted version of anabaptist's believes (General Baptist) and those who diluted It even more by mixing anabaptist believes with reformed believes (Particular Baptist who started calling themselves "Reformed Baptist in the 1960's). But the Church who really have the same Reformed Theology than Presbyterians and Continental Reformed but with a congregational government is the puritan Congregationalist Church.
I love that Lutheranism is acknowledged to be the main branch in the thumbnail.
Accidentally based
What is so interesting about it? I mean, lutheranism is basically a "root church" (for the lack of better word) for a pretty big chunk of modern-day churches, therefore it is inherently pretty influential, isn't it?
@matheuscaneta1194 You couldn't be further from the truth. You've been consuming too much pop Roman Catholic apologetics without doing enough research yourself.
Luther did not decide the OT canon by himself. Luther, who is so often accused of personally removing these books, included ALL of them in his translation of Die Bibel as well as the Prayer of Manasseh. That would bring Luther’s total to 74 books. Perhaps Lutherans should accuse Roman Catholics of removing one?
Rome's canon was very much not closed until Trent. This is evidenced by the fact that numerous Roman Catholic clergy did not view the apocrypha as divinely inspired, but good and beneficial to read. Even Cardinal Cajetan, the man who opposed Luther at his hearings and helped draw up the bill of Luther's excommunication, held this view. Here are his own words:
“Here we close our commentaries on the historical books of the Old Testament. For the rest (that is, Judith, Tobit, and the books of Maccabees) are counted by St Jerome out of the canonical books, and are placed amongst the Apocrypha, along with Wisdom and Ecclesiasticus, as is plain from the Prologus Galeatus. Nor be thou disturbed, like a raw scholar, if thou shouldest find anywhere, either in the sacred councils or the sacred doctors, these books reckoned as canonical. For the words as well of councils as of doctors are to be reduced to the correction of Jerome. Now, according to his judgment, in the epistle to the bishops Chromatius and Heliodorus, these books (and any other like books in the canon of the Bible) are not canonical, that is, not in the nature of a rule for confirming matters of faith. Yet, they may be called canonical, that is, in the nature of a rule for the edification of the faithful, as being received and authorised in the canon of the Bible for that purpose. By the help of this distinction thou mayest see thy way clearly through that which Augustine says, and what is written in the provincial council of Carthage.”
In fact, at the Council of Trent, the vote to settle on the 73-book cannon that the Roman church uses today was 24 for, 15 against, and 16 abstained. More people abstained or voted against that canon than actually voted in favor of it. That alone should tell you that the canonicity of the apocrypha was not settled even up through the counter-reformation.
Historically, the church didn't necessarily view the Bible as a set table of contents, but as a rule and guide for the Faith. Lutherans and many orthodox groups actually don't have a closed cannon that specifies the books of the Old and New Testaments. If quelling the Reformation was not the main underlying motive for calling the council of Trent, Rome's cannon most likely would have remained open, too.
@matheuscaneta1194 Protestants use the OT canon by Melito of Sardis (oldest christian OT canon), with the addition of Esther (even though Esther contains nothing about God & not cited in the NT, it has a typology that many early Christians liked). We see that the councils have contradicted each other over the years and their conflicts have been infected by secular politics. Your councils are not infallible - but they *can* be inerrant.
@@VasiliyOgniov We Lutherans hold that our Church was founded by Jesus Christ Himself, what we teach is nothing new; we are the one true Church and Rome, as well as the Eastern Orthodox and Coptic (and all Protestants) fell away from us. We hold exclusivity in being the One True Church, but we don't hold to institutional exclusivity on salvific matters.
Our Lord asked, when I come back will there be still believers ?
This was really interesting! Hopefully the grumpy haters aren't discouraging. I really like your content!
I disagree with the videos take on the Restorationist/Stone-Campbell movement because, even if they say they don’t follow creeds, a good chunk of them unintentionally do and are found within traditional Christian orthodoxy, where their beliefs are not too far apart from other Protestant (Mainline, Evangelical, and Fundamentalist) traditions - they’re a decent mix of several denominational traditions then evolved into their own tradition - but then again due to the lack of creeds (or maybe even statements of faith) a lot of bad theology can easily enter without being officially subscribed to by the whole tradition at large. Although some subdivisions within the Restorationist movement like the Church of Christ (I believe) have weird theology around not using instruments in church, certain fundamentalist Presbyterians also share similar weird theology surrounding music in church even to the extent of singing Psalms only like Psalms-only Presbyterians.
Am Church of Christ, yeah we're acapella only. I'm specifically non-institutional. Some of the mainlines probably do it, but a lot of our existance as specifically CoC is due to this difference. Most groups with similar theology tend to use instruments.
It's worth mentioning we just don't think the creeds are binding so we won't identify ourselves with them. The content may overlap, but at least as far as we know, we aren't doing it because of a creed existing.
While personally I don't find the music too weird (and we do have a basis in Scripture for it), we do tend to get very reactionary. There's also no hierachy outside the local church so it doesn't really have a check on it. The other local churches will just quit being socially involved with your members or refuse your preacher for a gospel meeting. There's some bizzare takes that have gotten popular. There's just nothing to stop a snowball escalating. If the tensions get too high, the congregation splits. Then it grows, finds more differences, and people leave again.
The Bible says to find a church where you can be fully convinced in your own mind that Jesus is your Lord and Savior! That’s the right church for you! We all don’t think the exact same way…..so there are are variety of churches to find Jesus for yourself. God is good He wants us all to believe! Some can believe in a Baptist Church…..some can believe in a Catholic Church! It’s all good!
I agree with you that it is good for everyone to worship God, but at the same time, he has revealed how he wants us to worship, which most denominations have disregarded and turned from.
Having been raised Church of Christ honestly I think it sounds worse on paper than it actually is. Go to few a CoCs and a few Baptist churches and you’ll be hard pressed to find the difference. Plus despite the initial anti-creedal origins Church of Christ is still Trinitarian with baptisms that even Catholic Church recognizes as legitimate
Right? Worth mentioning that the CoC broke off from Presbyterianism. Very hard to see a difference between the Baptist/nondenominational route of breaking off from a Protestant denomination, mostly rejecting creedalism, embracing a more independent, low church structure, rejecting Lutheran views of communion, and becoming credo-baptist with that of the CoC. I think RZ may just be salty that the CoC was made from a group of Reformed Christians who reformed too hard.
@@Tennishangman perhaps. Although reformed too far might be a little wrong considering they got rid of original sin and predestination
@@bradleymarshall5489 they reformed those doctrines.
Yes, the Catholic church believes once baptized, always baptized. It's a work of God and the Holy Spirit. If a person is baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Just a little friendly agreement❤
excellent channel, excellent videos. God bless you
A sketch but a very accurate one! All most people need to know about this subject.
The Churches of Christ formed from a bunch of Presbyterians in the restoration. Could you not say they are connected to the early church due to this? They confess what is in the creeds but do not do the creeds themselves. In other words, the creeds are upheld just not recited.
I disagree with the videos take on the Restorationist/Stone-Campbell movement because, even if they say they don’t follow creeds, a good chunk of them unintentionally do and are found within traditional Christian orthodoxy, where their beliefs are not too far apart from other Protestant (Mainline, Evangelical, and Fundamentalist) traditions - they’re a decent mix of several denominational traditions then evolved into their own tradition - but then again due to the lack of creeds (or maybe even statements of faith) a lot of bad theology can easily enter without being officially subscribed to by the whole tradition at large. Although some subdivisions within the Restorationist movement like the Church of Christ (I believe) have weird theology around not using instruments in church, certain fundamentalist Presbyterians also share similar weird theology surrounding music in church even to the extent of singing Psalms only like Psalms-only Presbyterians.
And the weird music thing likely came from the CoC being founded by two individuals who were raised Presbyterian.
Exactlyyy
Good explanation of the Baptists. I believe Baptists come from the Anglicans through John Smyth (1570). Just because they had similar beliefs as the Anabaptists doesn't mean they are from the same group.
It's complicated further by Smyth's decision to become an Anabaptist *after* forming the Baptist church. Thomas Helwys decided not to join the Mennonites, so Baptists never formally merged with Anabaptists to become a single tradition.
Anything that originates from the day of Pentecost is the true church. Repentance, baptism in the name of Jesus Christ and Spirit baptism.
You got it right
What about the Seventh-Day Adventist Church and other Sabbatarian denominations?
This is very useful as someo who plans on changing churches when i move it. Gotta lovr when Redeemed Zoomer says "zooming time" and just zooms all over the place!
Fact: Orthodox and Catholic are pre-denominational. The Greek Orthodox Church is by far the oldest. Everything else is from that root. The Catholic Church is an 11th century offshoot of the real Roman Church ("Byzantine" is a Catholic propaganda word). The historic Church is not even debatable, we know who they are, unbroken since the beginning. In fact, the Greek Orthodox Patriarch in Constantinople is the only official Roman office still open, having never been closed even by the Ottomans, for 1,800 years.
Yoi are mixing things up..
@@RafaelCosta-fy7tb Please explain
The first church started in Jerusalem, at Pentecost 33 AD with James the Just chosen as the first pope or leader. That church still exists today, as the Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem. St Peter founded the church in Antioch (East Orthodox) 34 AD before starting the church in Rome (Roman Catholic). There were 5 original church Patriarchs. Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, Constantinople, and Rome. During the Great Schism, everyone sided together except Rome, being the lone dissident.
Ty someone with truth
If you want to go back that far then neither Jerusalem, Alexandria nor Antioch are Greek because their real successors are Copts and Syriacs. The Greek bishops of those Sees were imposed by Constantinople.
Catholic Church , the one and only , founded by Jesus himself 🙏✝️.
But you disregard Jesus whenever he contradicts your popes.
@@Procopius464 Nope. That’s your point of view.
The pope is a commie
Nah orthodox all the way habibi
@@manuelamavizcanavarro9011 Then why are your priests not required to be married? That's a Biblical requirement from the NT.
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@michaelmayor4483 You mean Luther - sola scriptura - was wrong? And mankind had to wait for C.S. Lewis' books?
An interesting fact about the Amish is that in some communities the Amish identity is/has separated from the Anabaptist identity. For some, their lifestyle is not because of their faith, but simply how their family lives.
Anglicanism is a form of Christianity that originated in Britain as far back as the 1st or 2nd century. According to tradition, Joseph of Arimathea brought the gospel to Britain after Christ’s resurrection. Though little is known about its earliest foundations, records indicate that British bishops attended some of the earliest church councils, including those at Arles (314) and Nicaea (325).
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@ISLAM_IS_THE_RIGHT_PATH1 John 3:16-18 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.”
It’s strange how everyone starts with the Roman Catholic Church but not the Armenian Orthodox Church.
The Armenian Apostolics separated from Orthodoxy when they rejected Calcedon, despite being the first christian state.
The church of the pentecostals started at the day of the pentecost. And we feel the presence that was brought down on that day in every reunion
No....
Most heretical and cult like Christian church.
Using the image of Mari Emmanuel to represent the Assyrian Church of the East is wrong as he is twice removed from that church... originally he was a part of the "Ancient Church of the East" which split from the Assyrian Church of the East in 1964, and he's since just started his own Christ the Good Shepherd Church in 2015...
Jesus is God ✝️❤️
This is why i hold to the idea we are all saved because its honestly a toss up on who is right
I hope this is true but I’m not sure
@Kenny-mu2xb well think of it like thise
Jesus is the Christ
The son of God
And God in flesh
God loved us so much he willingly put himself on earth and lived his life in servitude
And died the most painful brutal death in history of betrayal and had the sins all of them put on him
And God wills that not one person be lost
He loved us to that degree
And if thats true
And he knew the beginning to the end dont you think he would have cleared up the intellectual issues we have today?
Considering most of the gospels share the same message and information id imagine if it was as important as salvation from hell the apostles would have written them down as spoken by our Lord
Thats why i really dont like exclusivist christians (mostly catholic and orthodox). Despite our differences, in the end we praise the same God and have the same principles on essentials. Awful exclusivists 😒.
@@D4rkmatter Let’s be honest with ourselves, we believe in an exclusive Gospel if we believe Scripture. Narrow is the way, few find it, the path to destruction is wide, etc. Knowing the right Gospel message is essential, that’s why Paul says a different Gospel, even if it’s from an angel, should be ignored.
If its a toss up on who is right then it absolutely would not be all saved lmao, the bigger the differences the bigger the separation in salvation
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As a Methodist, I was hoping for more info on Moravians 💔
I like your presentation. Thanks for the information