Why YOU Should Fear the Latest Effort to Ban DJI - HR 2864
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2024
- House Bill 2864 (DJI ban) just passed committee, and is now on its way to consideration for further action. This bill could actually succeed in banning DJI in America. Can it be stopped?
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You give the Congress critters too much credit. They don't care one bit about national security. I'm 100% convinced they are being bribed, not campaign contributions, I mean straight bribed, to eliminate competition. The US drone makers suck, and instead of not sucking they want to ban the competition. I'd love a US drone, but won't buy one until they don't suck, regardless of what they get banned.
Bribery, and definitely political reasons that are in no way technology based!
Kevin, I’m not sure the U.S. has any drone manufacturers, now that Skydio has bowed out of the consumer market.
I dont think the people running the USA care whether you buy a drone or not.
They want the airspace for Amazon, Wal-Mart, UPS, or whoever else want the airspace to do drone delivery.
@@Glen.Danielsen there are a few, but they are trash
Well... just read this one. I didn't want to be so blunt, but you got it across just the same😂
I wrote all my representatives the day I heard and am a part of The Drone Advocacy group. Even though it has a slim chance of the Bill passing it's still worth doing this and letting your elected officials know how you feel about every one of these DJI bills. You can request your Representatives to get back with you via email or phone. They will talk with you about it. Thank you Russ for sharing sending best wishes to you and your family.
Sorry, but your letters are like Votes- They don't mean much.
I wrote to my representative and they responded with an auto reply about pilot retirement. Our government is filled with idiots
@@weseehowcommiegoogleis3770 by themselves the letters dont mean much. But letters followed by Americans out-right doing a societal strike is dangerous to the system.
The system needs people to _"buy-in"_ so to speak. Enough people opt-out and this whole thing collapses overnight.
We just need enough Americans to not be a bunch of wussies.
It's not time to feel safe and content, it is not time to wipe your brow and say "phew that was close" - it is time right now to pay attention to WHO keeps putting this legislation forward and bring them the pain.
Do not trust any politician to do a rational action on any subject...
There's not a single american UAV manufacturer that can give us the same performance, image quality and features that DJI does, for the same price. On the contrary, they have half of the features, quality and performance for twice or tripple the price!!! Come on, we are not stupid! Thanks man for all your videos and for standing up against this nonsense.
Gessh! Follow the money. My head hurts from face-palming myself. Hopefully saner minds will prevail, but not holding my breath. Great video. :)
Currently GovTrack gives HR 2468 a 1% chance of making it to legislation. Additionally, every Federal Agency that uses DJI Drones has waivers to use their drones. Includes DOD, DOI, Secret Service. The big impact which has not been realized is the use by 1st Responders, Police, and Small Business's. Rep Stefanik is in my district, and I have expressed my concerns to include my lack of support at the voting booth.
Wasn’t it that when Florida banned DJI, the local municipalities cried for financial loss and what were they supposed to use in the future?
yes it will.
like any politician in their right mind they'll use this scheme to launder the $$$.
they'll create an entity to put people to "work" then all the other "expenses" then "fines" "processing fees" and guess how much money will land in their own pockets .
that might there is a money printing machine .
Same here!
@@dhc8gurulocal governments maybe. But the bigger ones would give no shits. DOD ect. They got the money to have some built for them without giving shits to local agencies.
They will just make some new ones outside of DJI. An make the local state agencies slowly use some of their budgets to rebuild their drone programs
Love the discussion happening here between “alarmist Russ” and “take a breath and chill Russ”. Another example of what I like about this channel.
lol. I like chill Russ better. 😂
Drones and smoke? You have my attention sir!
Thanks for sharing a non fear mongering view.
Thank you for this. I for one think cutting back and forth between your videos made it easier to fully understand what is happening and why. It was also fun to see you smoking your brisket. Your videos are always informative and must views for me.
Thank you, Russ for bringing to light this bill and hearing. I’ll have to go back and watch the full hearing. As for Drones and Smoke, I’m listening and you’re making me hungry 👏🙏.
Thank you for sharing this Russ. Here is a question that everyone should be asking themselves. Why is Michael Gallegher still bringing this up when he is not running for re-election? Legislators don't just propose things like this unless they are receiving a "donation" from someone who will benefit from the bill being passed. So what does he have to gain...
You were right. Congressman Mike Gallagher, he’s resigning and taking a job with major defense tech contractor Palantir, multiple people familiar with the matter told Forbes
And now it has passed the full committee 43 to 0. It now goes to the full house for a vote. I see no indication that anyone will oppose it's passage.
because it has already been bought and paid for
Great video Russ. Thanks for taking the time to make it and for sharing it.
Bottom line came towards the end of video. No one in the whole world, including USA can/refuses to make a drone as good as DJI period. I'm part 107 and fly commercially most of the time. DJI is the best out there, could not do my job as well with any other drone. Come on USA, make a drone as good, that flies as good, and costs about the same, I'll buy it! Gezzzz if they can do it, then by god, we can too!
DJI would just drop the price of their drones to put the comp out of business. It happens back in 2015 with 3DR.. I built a DJI drone back in 2014 when the only way you could get a drone was to build it yourself. When 3DR came out with the Solo in 2015 it was worlds above the DJI ability. DJI dropped the price of the Phantom and put 3DR out of business.
Best video I've seen on the subject, thank you so much. I've seen a ton of them.
Thank you so much for clarifying that information because previous videos of yours stopped me from purchasing a drone.
Hello Russ, I am in Ireland, We say here, America gets a cold and Ireland gets the Flu, such is the symbiotic relationship between the two. When USA banned Huawei, so did most of Europe, to such that they cannot be purchased here. So I'm sure the same would follow in DJI's case. But if a customer spends €$£3000 on a DJI Mavic 3 Pro Combo and was legal at the time of Purchase, Then is not the case that, that customer really ethically entitled to fly it for it's life's duration. Eventually that tech will be surpassed in any case and you will buy the next one be it from whoever make the best kit then.
U is in the Kingdom boy, own rules apply
Russ, great video! I like format change for this, it fits. I too have written my representatives. Our lawmakers plan to make changes like this based on sound bites without any deep dive into the issue to really understand, IS IT AN ISSUE. My complaint to FAA has been the FAA needs to do more to educate lawmakers on drones and the differences between sUAS and larger drones, how drones operate, and how drones are used. I recently talked to a lawmaker in my state about changing a law for registration and the response in part was, "we don't like drones they create dangerous situations. Our drones can collect a lot about flight information, including nice videos and photos but how can that be used for any effective means for china flying since the drone flies at or below 400' agl. Plus we cannot get close enough to US military installations to gather any data. Chinese airlines fly into the US and they would have more ability to capture information about, whatever is on the ground as they fly over. Chinese components as well as total products made in China, are all over. Electronics in our cars, internet routers, lots of security cams made in China, cameras, phones to name only a few. It is absolutely ridiculous to call out DJI drones without calling out the other products previously mentioned. If the FCC, or our lawmakers are so worried about this, the best place to start are internet routers. China already knows a lot about US, through everything we bought, Made in China. So lawmakers, put your DJI red flag back in the closet and send out the real security experts find communication and other vulnerabilities from China.
Copy and paste this and submit this to your Congress person and 2 U.S. Senators in your state.
@@willia3r did two weeks ago 👍🏻
Show me that brisket! lol Thanks! Totally agree man. I liked the editing; I think it brought the point across and was engaging.
Appreciate you Paul! It turned out great!
Russ, I loved this new style of video from you. Thanks for the information update also.
It's not going anywhere... again. it's been up before and made it past the same committee and went nowhere. All the subcommittee done was finish talking about it. It'll die soon again.
They already banned the drone for Federal use and banned any Federal money to be spent on the drones. This was done back in December 2023 under the NDAA FY 2024 law.
@@willia3r because they have the legal authority to control federal money. They have less if any authority to tell people where they can spend theirs. Also, this bill has been around for years and it always goes nowhere. The reason the other bill passed is because of massive lobbying by Skydio. They moved away from the consumer space and moving into corporate and enterprise. This means potential massive government contracts. They hired a lot of really powerful ex-government people with deep ties within government and congress. This has been known and was the suspected reason for a few years. They have lobbied massively for this and they finally got their way. Skydio have zero interest in the US consumer market, so there is no real effort outside of a handful in congress to go any further.
There is literally no US drone maker of note in the consumer side. What is here is concentrated on the enterprise/government area. There is one company that isn't very good but claim to be American. Their drones are still made in China, it's just they are based in the US.
Again... there is no interest in killing the consumer/pro-sumer drone industry in the US. What has happened is procedure where it will end up on the shelf like the last one.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here - but: If the federal government is so worried about Chinese hacking (which is a legit fear) there are better options than punitive outright bans.
1. Cell companies like Verizon (who posted a $79B profit last year) could be tasked to improve network security to prevent data theft or whatever they are calling it.
2. Make DJI (and Autel) sell drones with controllers that don't need to be hooked up to a phone - IE the RC2 - the only reason I ever connect my RC2 to the internet is for firmware updates.
3. The government could also mandate and fund a US controlled intermediary for flight record data (and whatever other data goes to DJI) - filter out anything potentially harmful.
I'm sure I'm oversimplifying the problem here - but there are ways to prevent spying without banning these products outright.
I've already written to my representatives (twice) and made it clear that if they want to push this ridiculous issue into reality they should also be on the hook to reimburse American consumers for every penny we spent on drones they grounded, not to mention losses to small businesses that rely on this technology.
I also pointed out that when it comes to gun violence certain 'leaders' are very fond of saying 'bans don't work' - but when it comes to drones 'bans are the answer'? I swear, we keep electing dumber and dumber people each election cycle. (I'm not opposed to the 2A - just the hypocrisy of these proposed bans)
Okay - I'm climbing off my angry soap box now .
What about all the computers that they sell and that are attached to the Internet throughout the United States?
Chinese owned computer companies, or non-Chinese owned companies that have their products made in China? I think that is part of the difference.
@@billvandermolen5907
Most all Electronics Ing, our modems that are supposed to be secure and all the computer components are all made in China so it doesn’t make any difference if they wanted to put something in one of those they could just as easily do so as a drone. But there is no proof or anyone ever finding anything in a DJI drone that showed that they were sending anything back to China or it was caption any information. Our entire country is mapped on Google maps. In fact, the whole world is.
This is hot topic for Drones owners right now. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it, Russ.
Very balanced, logical viewpoint. Please make a transcript of the points of importance (leaving out the smoke lessons) so we can all use those points in our letters to our representatives and senators. Especially the "misrepresented geo-fencing statements and the heartbeat reading statements. Then you can give us a link in a future video for us to download and rewrite to our reps. Thanks for the input.
Where do you RV at Russ? I live full-time in a Monaco dynasty motorhome and have a drone and that’s why I started watching your channel. Control of information. Or as we know when the government controls information. It’s actually misinformation. Anytime a politician states something they’re going to do or writes a bill for something they want to do just follow the money. Because there’s money behind it getting them to do whatever they want to do. And typically it is not represent the people that voted them in the office.
Thanks Russ for your information and ability to condense things that concern us recreational pilots! At my age I think I will survive any ban that may happen! When is dinner going to be ready!
Ate it! And it was wonderful!
Vic was on the USDS show tonight and said it has about a 1% chance as of now
Great video thanks for all useful information it truly helps 👍🏿
thanks for the Info. comprehensive as usual. just makes you hate politicians, no matter right or left, even more !
Definitely need to see that brisket! I also wholeheartedly agree with the fact that it seems fishy that it targets DJI specifically. I doubt it’ll happen but also curious if it’ll affect all DJI products like the action cameras, pockets and gimbals
Has anyone considered that data collection could be done almost on any device that's made in China, like Apple phones, tablets, for instance, hmmm! And who's going to compensate me for the new DJI Air3 I just bought?
Should be called "drones and smoke, an honest discussion about HR2864". Love this video! Thank you for your content.
Good thoughts! Major concern NOW is this month we won't be able to fly our older drones/quads without a device that is not readily available and those that are limited in availability are extremely expensive. That should be our major concern.
I am a quadcopter pilot and love RC devices. I have to watch your channel. Hahaha. You offer good services and updates on the drone community.
Isn't a Chinese Balloon with equipment on it, flying over Utah as we speak.
Great video Russ, loveyour videos. I doubt this will go the distance.
They’re worried about them knowing where sensitive locations are but Google earth shows you everything
Why can't DJI have their own expert to counter the expert witness
Thanks for all of your info, please let know what bumpers you use on your avata, cheers Hector.
I think he got those from the Original Dobo - Should be on Etsy
Thank you😊
This is a seriously great video. I hope some people in Washington DC see this.
Thank you!
Franklin BBQ makes their brisket that way. I’ve read that they add wagyu beef fat when wrapped, helps with flavor and gives a juicy appearance
Bill Tracker gives this legislation about a 1% chance of passing...
Thank you for covering this Russ!!
Well spoken! 💯👍🏼
I agree with every word.
I have to admit, I’ve become kind of jaded with flying, lately, due to this entire situation.
If they succeed with this Ban, it will completely DESTROY everything that I’ve worked for, in the past five to six years, or so.
If they want an Outlaw, this is how you’d go about making me one.
So I have been watching your channel and others about all of this and I'm concerned as what I should do. I'm a Real estate Photographer and I was planning to offer my customers Drone Photos and Videos, take my Part 107 and purchase my first Drone. I was looking at the DJI products and now I'm not sure which I should consider without paying a large sum for a Drone? Any suggestions and thoughts would be helpful. Thanks
Thx for the updates and info
Sadly, our representatives are under educated on the topics (drone and most other things), and more over so in the pockets of companies with the only purpose to make more money, proper and solid decsions are never made. IMO it’s all about greed and nothing more.
DJI is an inovator, it will take years for an american company to meet or exceed not only the technology but the price point. I contacted Skydio for a drone that would fill the needs I have (which are not the highest end) and I could buy 10+ DJI drones for the cost of that one drone, it still could not spec out video and photo as good as my DJI, the form factor was much larger, the necessary equipment was much more costly, and overall a terrible investment for my company at this time. Can you imagine crashing an over $10k drone, when you could be flying a sub $1K drone to do the same work? It would put me out of business.
Tik-Tok is far more of a threat than DJI.
Ultimately, I think, and hope, you're right. You have a rational take and you smoke a good brisket. And I'm not returning the Mavic 3 Pro I just ordered-which may or may not have been influenced by all of this news.
My smart tv or Alexis is far more dangerous. I have talked about purchasing an item and somehow ads for that item magically appear in my Google searches.
You need a proof to pass the bill, not the excuse of national security, thanks Russ of your insight.
Could it be DJI only, due to their geo-fencing this alerts DJI directly (as you have to get the geo-fence disabled to fly) to when someone is a "sensitive" air zone which then could provide DJI the opportunity to "pick up" information which may be of value to the PRC. Just a thought.
So what can we do to encourage U.S. manufacturers to step up their game? There is no reason that U.S. companies couldn't spend some of the money that they spend on lobbying and spend it on R&D.
Thank you for this video!
Oh Russ..... lol 😂 - been seeing your name thrown around (well) in channels i've never seen before. your depth is vast ✌🏻
smoking out the competition 😂😢😅
On March 12th the subcommittee voted 21 to 0 to forward the bill to the full committee. That is concerning. Better keep your eye on this one.
Within the first few minutes I heard “Dji drones” an “Dji products” which is it? They cannot take away our clip ons!
Thanks Russ
I like the cutting in and out part of the video
Bring on the American drones
Russ, I hope DJI is not banned until I can buy my Avata FPV! Great video brother. 🙏🏽
Thanks!
There is not a viable alternative to DJI in the market now. DJI is miles ahead in terms of technology and innovation.
Russ the all American guy - smoking on the grill and flying drones. MERICA - thanks Russ good information. Keep on Grillin!
Even if DJI was secretly recording every flight of their drones number 1 that would require an enormous amount of storage and then it would have to all be sifted through for whatever they are looking for and most likely would come up with nothing
You comment about flying in local mode, isn't that just when its flying or in that mode? What happens when you turn local mode off to download the latest firmware updates? From what I understand, the flights are stored locally, and that stuff can get uploaded to DJI when you open the window for firmware updates. I might be wrong about this, but I haven't heard or read confirmation that it doesn't happen.
Malicious. It's not out of ignorance, it's out of malice. They know what they're doing
Man, I just don’t have the time to research on a level I would feel comfortable with and being informed. I work 65+ hours a week. I just don’t have the time
And the system counts on this. That's why bad laws like the 2001 Patriot Act keeps getting passed.
Menards! My favorite store! Cool to see you "on location".
Russ does a mavic air 2 need a module for Remote ID ?
thanks for the info
If they brick all drones from dji there will be massive backlash and probably lawsuits
2:50 I would say right now it is very concerning.
If they want to band dji drones then the better prepare adequate reimbursement to all dji customers who bought their products
That would never happen, all they would do is ban the sales of new drones. You would be SOL if you think they would compensate you.
This man's logic is top notch
its going to be Millions...so i hope they know what they are setting there self up for....major lawsuit
I agree hole heartedly. So what's with the Apple cigar vinegar spritz? Must be good.... Blue Skies Russ....
Yes. It makes all the difference in the bark!
Good stuff! You are correct on wrapping brisket in butcher paper. Only way to go!
Very informative, Prayers for your wife.
Your comment @ 9:34 about not knowing how they work. Think about the number of fools that call an AR-15 an assault rifle, or weapon of war. They don’t have a clue either, or they’re playing dumb. Which could it be?
If the supposed threat is data mining, why do we not have a U.S. Certified Safe DJIFly app? I have asked on the DJI Forum as well as sending this suggestion directly to the Government relations department at DJI but to this point nothing but silence.
I totally agree with what you said, there needs to be give and take and I think DJI could go a long way by establishing a U.S. based team that certifies their software or by an American company creating a Litchi or Mavin type alternate client to Fly the DJI products with.
To the point of a U.S. Based drone company... That will be driven by the economy and the market potential for someone to make a profit. I don't think it will take an Elon Musk type investment, but someone will have to come up with several million to do the engineering and initial set-up to get started. Most people are not willing to make that investment unless they can see the actual path to profit model.
I think that trying to regulate your way into a market is the wrong answer. If your going to ban a country's products you have to ban them all or none.
Also it is a common practice for US legislatures to introduce bills they know will fail but make them look "strong on China". In short they waste the time we send them to Washington to do good work.
Well said Russ!!!
4 of 9 of my drones run DJI flight controller and never had any problems, so I’d say I’ll be buying DJI products for a long time.
Thanks for the video you know I have the same grill 🎉
i really enjoyed the editing in this video.
This doesn't really effect me at all because I don't live anywhere in the USA. I'm currently outside of the united states in Asian or Taiwan to be more clear. Here we can still use everything DJI and there are completely no ban at all not that I know of. So I'm totally safe from this possible ban.
Very interesting 👏👏👏👌🏻
I have a friend that just got the EXO Blackhawk 3 pro. They say that it is made in USA but all the writing and numbers are in Chinese. So it looks like it is assembled here but everything for it is make in china.
I've researched them too and they're very inferior to dji as is everyone else.
Thanks
Thank you!
What could go wrong? This admin has been on the longest winning streak of all time, I mean why is anyone worried?
Yeah I'm not to worried YET, this is mainly for Government funded entities or Government officials, not the consumer sector.
Hi Russ, I hope this message is received with the good intentions that I have in my heart for you and your channel; I appreciate the need for views and subs, and respect that you mitigated the hyperbole throughout the vid, but I hope you don't become like one of those rumour/speculation channels constantly pumping out content in which there is a marked discrepancy between stated and actual risk. Just a loyal subscriber who wants the best for you and your channel.
I love the argument with yourself 😂 Good info
You forgot to mention Skydio and AUVSI lobbying against small business/public safety and to help drive out DJI
Stefanik is my "representative", a loosely-applied honorific when it comes to her, and she's been a genuinely awful political opportunist for years, even before she was elected to public office. It's been FIVE YEARS since she held an open meeting with constituents, she has a hilarious habit of taking credit for federal dollars brought into NY21 she voted against, she's directed attacks toward community leaders leading to death threats, and so much more. Unfortunately, she's a lock because of the letter after her name in a +15 district. It's no surprise that she's spearheading this effort with guidance from a slick grifter like Singleton, because it catches eyeballs, sounds pressing, and can be used for political advantage.
A bit of a personal complaint here as a farmer too, but if we’re really concerned with national security and China, why don’t we limit foreign investment of farmland? Why are we crushing small businesses that use drones but allowing Chinese investors to purchase our farmland, a VERY limited resource.
Not your usual video style...but I like it. It has the desired effect. And I agree with your message. Let's get USA drone manufacturing companies up to par with China. Someone should introduce a bill that funds and supports the development of drone factories.
Drones are now an integral part of our way of life. Let's not bury our heads in the sand and wish for some fear-based loss of serenity. With proper legislation, training and support, drones can contribute to a better future.
Good video there is no substitute for DJI is right instead of banning DJI like the law makers want to do they need to inspire competition like figuring out what makes DJI a successful company and learn what can be done to improve the drones made.