Why the New Republic HATED Coruscant/Removed Capitol (Big Mistake) - Star Wars Explained

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  • @jacobdarling1524
    @jacobdarling1524 Рік тому +108

    The rotating capital idea always seemed silly and unrealistic to me. I think a cooler idea would have been to build a big city sized space station to serve as the capital. Several sci-fi governments have capitals like that. It could even be constructed where Alderaan was as a tribute to the rebellion and everything it sacrificed and fought for. Can’t think of a bigger f u to the memory of the empire than that.

    • @DLR1997
      @DLR1997 Рік тому +20

      Some countries; like China and Japan had a rotating capital in the past. Everytime the emperor died; they just moved it to where the next one lives

    • @pacotaco1914
      @pacotaco1914 Рік тому +6

      So the citadel from Mass Effect?

    • @colinleat8309
      @colinleat8309 Рік тому +5

      That's actually a really fantastic idea! 👍. Happy holidays 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦

    • @Loneguy22
      @Loneguy22 Рік тому +4

      ​@@DLR1997The Holy Roman Empire did the same thing, the Imperial court would reside in whatever city the Emperor wished. English monarchs didn't keep a permanent capital until the 14th century. Parliament had been called to which ever city the King might be in whether that was London or York or elsewhere.

    • @KnotsOfWonders
      @KnotsOfWonders Рік тому +5

      They are too busy subverting expectations with the sexuality of their characters to write anything interesting like that.

  • @ryangreskoviak4889
    @ryangreskoviak4889 Рік тому +40

    The new republic repeated the mistakes of the Jedi. Demilitarized themselves to appear peaceful. Like Jedi who wanted peace so badly after warring with the sith, the new republic wanted peace so bad they were willing to ignore signs that the empire was returning. Like Baylan Skol said history repeats itself.

    • @OnlyTimefps9
      @OnlyTimefps9 Рік тому +3

      Very well said!

    • @battlesheep2552
      @battlesheep2552 Рік тому +3

      To quote Dark Helmet: "evil will always win, because good is dumb"

    • @OnlyTimefps9
      @OnlyTimefps9 Рік тому

      Not to mention, this is also precisely what Satine did for Mandalore, but I think the New Republic have crossed the line with these patterns even further than what she did. What’s going to happen when more Wars come into their doorstep. In legends, they did the same way after the fall of the Empire, and that’s exactly why the Yuuzhon Vong have ate up pretty much the entire galaxy. The Yuuzhon Vong war is a perfect testament to never demilitarize the Republic just to look peaceful.

  • @ColdHighway7
    @ColdHighway7 Рік тому +18

    Not realizing that even after the Empire fell that there were still CIS leaders (or at least those who believed in their ideals) that had to be smoothed over in order to join the New Republic is interesting. Would be a nice "What If.." either comic or book series that the smoothing over didn't happen and basically post Empire would have two states; the new CIS and the New Republic with the First Order trying to start a shooting war between them

  • @aster4jaden
    @aster4jaden Рік тому +18

    I'm pretty sure the only thing we learned from The Force Awakens was JJ Abrams badly rehashed the Rebels vs Empire into Resistance (though also called Rebels at times) vs Remnant of the Empire that was poorly led.

    • @fenrirgaming37
      @fenrirgaming37 Рік тому

      JJ Abrams was left with a train wreck from the start and he did what he could to salvage it. Thanks to people like Kathleen Kennedy, his efforts were largely wasted. That's why so many people do not believe the Sequel Trilogy are true canon, and I agree with that. I have other reasons why I hate that trilogy, but I won't go into those reasons here.

    • @aster4jaden
      @aster4jaden Рік тому +2

      @@fenrirgaming37 To be fair, JJ created the trainwreck from the start as he went along with KK.

    • @The_Lucent_Archangel
      @The_Lucent_Archangel Рік тому +2

      When exactly has Jar Jar Abrams ever had a creative idea or stuck the landing on an ending? The man fancies himself a new Spielberg but has at most a fraction of the capability. Why he keeps having IPs thrown at him is confusing.

  • @baldrian22
    @baldrian22 Рік тому +28

    the new republic in legends was defenitly smarter in that regard. sure they defenitly had their problems to but they never fully removed the military, and it took atleast a decade if not more to any peace with the imperial remnent. if i remember correctly the leader that ended up strongarming the rests of the remnent into peace talk was admiral pelion. he was the one in comand of the star destroyer chimera. this star destroyer was grand admiral thrawns flag ship.

    • @The_Lucent_Archangel
      @The_Lucent_Archangel Рік тому +4

      The justification given for why the NR in Disney canon is so foolish, is that many former Imperials line the ranks of the military and bureaucracy and that they undermined the new government to help the First Order. If anything that makes them even more inept because they either couldn't be bothered to learn who still held allegiance to the Imperial way of life or didn't care beyond putting them through some silly little work program to "reform" them if that.

  • @whitestar7641
    @whitestar7641 Рік тому +25

    The New Republic was so afraid to become the evils of the past, that they tried to change too much without a well laid plan. They were already walking a dangerous line, and unfortunately, favour was not with them. The best thing to do was to immediately return to Coruscant as the prime capital. Keyword being prime, the sectors should have each had a grand capital that broke down into smaller lesser capitals of the systems. From there, as it has always been, the worlds have their capitals. Each being able to monitor threats with systems and sectors being able to mobilize as they would have the authority to. This could prevent so much as if insurrections did arise, that would give them time to face the enemy while sending a message to the prime capital of Coruscant asking for galactic aid. It could also further relations between the races as aliens and humans would have to work together within smaller bodies of capitals, they would be able to know each other more directly and understand cultures beyond their own. Xenophobia has always been a problem in the Star Wars galaxy, and those smaller capitals could break those chains, leading to a better era for all. I respect what he New Republic was trying to do, Mon Mothma had seen the worst of the High Republic corruption and the Empire’s evil, she knew them better than most, she just was trying to achieve what was beyond realistic and feasible.

  • @bagofbones4257
    @bagofbones4257 Рік тому +6

    Moving the capital constantly just throws the entire beaucratic system into chaos every few years and as we saw it didn't give the galaxy a voice as the outer rim just ended up being abandoned to Hutts, warlords and imperials.

  • @АлексейМомот-щ7о
    @АлексейМомот-щ7о Рік тому +140

    *Learned* in The Force Awakens? 😂 That movie explains nothing about itself. I'm pretty sure some people still think Starkiller blew up Coruscant.

    • @tinyguy1015
      @tinyguy1015 Рік тому +8

      True

    • @jacobdarling1524
      @jacobdarling1524 Рік тому +22

      I feel like the only reason for the rotating capital stuff was because JJ Abrams was afraid to blow up Coruscant.

    • @dumbuttdoor17
      @dumbuttdoor17 Рік тому +25

      All this time I thought Coruscant was blown up

    • @SkinnyEatWorld95
      @SkinnyEatWorld95 Рік тому +25

      Lmfao that whole trilogy was just a bunch of random generic story stuff, it never actually tells a real story. So disappointing

    • @dolorusedd2586
      @dolorusedd2586 Рік тому +1

      I did for a while after that movie

  • @oddmanout8692
    @oddmanout8692 Рік тому +6

    Going from an iron fist to a complete lazre faire government was idiocy. They cut the head off the snake but let a hydra grow in its place.

  • @theforcedragon3781
    @theforcedragon3781 Рік тому +6

    This is very interesting!
    Definitely some good and interesting lore for the Star Wars universe.
    If I were in charge I’d make multiple capital worlds all in the inner core With different Rolls in the government. I’d also make space stations to act as capital outposts for the made and outer rim worlds.

  • @doctorwyvern9992
    @doctorwyvern9992 Рік тому +19

    This is the first time I’ve heard about the capital being rotated to different worlds. To me, it sounds more troublesome than it’s really worth, and in the end it proved to be extremely detrimental to the new republic.

    • @solastro5595
      @solastro5595 Рік тому +1

      How much money could've been saved if they just kept the same capital.

    • @Chiss_Combat_Club
      @Chiss_Combat_Club Рік тому

      I don’t think it is shown in the movies, but the reasoning and such is in the aftermath trilogy

  • @SkepticalChris
    @SkepticalChris Рік тому +5

    Dismantling the military was the stupidest thing to do after a brutal civil war. You need to maintain order and you can't do that without a strong military to take out imperial remnants.

  • @nicktechnubyte1184
    @nicktechnubyte1184 Рік тому +8

    Always loved the planet-wide city concept

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead Рік тому +1

      The fact that Ravnica was just Coruscant, but with magic, is why I fell in love with the first two blocks. OG Mirrodin + OG Ravnica = _screw off, Pherexiya."_

    • @rector0455
      @rector0455 Рік тому +1

      @@CoralCopperHead wtf are these words?!

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead Рік тому

      @@rector0455 Huh, thought there would be more of an overlap between Magic: The Gathering and Star Wars, my bad I guess.

  • @joshuaweinbender6075
    @joshuaweinbender6075 Рік тому +5

    Having a new capitol was a good idea however moving the capital around was not a good move because it showed that they were not there to stay that and if imperials were still there it would bring into question of which government was legit replaying past mistakes was also a recipe for disaster

  • @joshuahenderson3444
    @joshuahenderson3444 Рік тому +4

    You would think all of this would’ve been shown and better explained in the Sequel Trilogy if it weren’t for all the bad writing bcuz Jar Jar Abrams made it so, Force Awakens was an “ok” movie but overall it was still kinda dumb concerning the plot involving the New Republic and the rise of the First Order with it being vague and obscure that almost anything about those movies involving the story hardly ever made sense at all

  • @PaytonGellner
    @PaytonGellner 7 місяців тому +3

    Ok why does literally no one understand the difference between universe and galaxy? He say's this hub could get you anywhere in the universe... meaning leaving the galaxy. That would sure make the trip to get Ezra and Thrawn easy huh?

  • @kaidorade1317
    @kaidorade1317 Рік тому +2

    You should do a video/or link one if already made, about how Palpatine was given power by the people and not taken

  • @Redpoppy80
    @Redpoppy80 Рік тому +3

    Can we just say how STUPID it was that NONE of this was covered in the sequel farce. This would be highly important world building that would be needed to explain the story. But nooooo. Disney wanted to make another ANH and ESB.

  • @violetlight1548
    @violetlight1548 Рік тому +1

    Abrams wanted to blow Coruscant up. Disney said no, so they had to half-ass a "reason" as to why the capital planet of the Galaxy for tens of thousands of years suddenly ... wasn't. Why the hell would they even call themselves the *New Republic* if they wanted to distance themselves from the old?
    Legends wasn't perfect, but it made a lot more sense than the middle school fanfiction (except for Rogue One and Andor) that Disney's spitting out.

  • @randomramblings2325
    @randomramblings2325 Рік тому +4

    At least the New Republic in Legends survived for so long and only Phil, thanks to an extra Galactic invasion just another reason. In my opinion, my legends is better than the Star Wars Disney universe.

  • @timothyvanhoeck233
    @timothyvanhoeck233 Рік тому +3

    Sorry, but Hosnian Prime is a non-canon world that is just Coruscant rebranded; just as Jakku is a non-canon world that is just Tatooine rebranded and missing one of it's twin suns.
    Disney Wars ISN'T Star Wars, and nothing made by disney is canon, no matter how much Disney wants to claim otherwise.

  • @david4portland
    @david4portland Рік тому

    Love the video. Rock it, homie. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

  • @АлексейМомот-щ7о

    7:16 No way, Coruscant would have just been blown up and we wouldn't hear the end of fans wanting JJ's head on a pike. Maybe prequel fandom would have crashed the TLJ box office and we would have Solo fiasco earlier in Disney era.

    • @jacobdarling1524
      @jacobdarling1524 Рік тому

      I literally think that the only reason for the rotating capital stuff was just bc JJ was afraid to blow up Coruscant

    • @The_Lucent_Archangel
      @The_Lucent_Archangel Рік тому

      Most real fans already still want Jar Jar out of SW entirely, right behind Ruin Johnson. Blowing up a planet wouldn't make that any worse than rock bottom.

    • @АлексейМомот-щ7о
      @АлексейМомот-щ7о Рік тому

      @@The_Lucent_Archangel it would have accelerated it if JJ blew up Coruscant

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476 Рік тому +2

    The reason that the New Republic moved the capital is because the New Republic weren't that bright .
    In fact , they were down right stupid.

  • @shadowbeast2276
    @shadowbeast2276 Рік тому +6

    And WHERE in the FORCE AWAKENS movie explain anything?
    And when & where did the entire new trilogy as a whole explain anything?🤔

  • @jasonclintgray4889
    @jasonclintgray4889 8 місяців тому

    That's just mad that top nice one your so clear and just tell them so top

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 Рік тому +2

    Nice Video.

  • @herodaresfire4512
    @herodaresfire4512 Рік тому +3

    Yeah, TFA didn't explain shit. After first viewing, I thought Coruscant was destroyed.

  • @martincamacho2444
    @martincamacho2444 Місяць тому

    I think mon montha her ideals were good, but reality is working against with her ideals
    1. Casting out Saw Guerrera because she thought he was more liability than asset ( I think he was an excellent general, but in tactical sense terrible strategic sense ) the one rebel commander that was above politics and willing to do whatever it takes to win he’d be very good asset for their espionage network
    2. Making a peace with the imperials as soon as possible. ( for believing they would abide by any peace term and we’re all trustworthy even though they are desperate.)
    3. Declaring any imperials that didn’t surrender after the battle of Jakku (that would just make them desperate and either become warlords or criminals)
    4. Reducing the new Republic military strength. And have it be divided by planetary bodies. For their own defense force.

  • @TheOtakuCartel
    @TheOtakuCartel Рік тому

    We need more videos on clones and bounty hunter

  • @wedgeantillies66
    @wedgeantillies66 Рік тому

    Basically a clean brake from the failures of the pass in respect of the old republic and the empire and all the negative publicity associated with the old capital world of both regimes. Although given the continuing expense pf a rotating capital, would have been better off situating on Chandrilla and going from there in terms of building a new republic with a new capital world as well defended and able to offer stability and justice as it predecessor during the golden era of the old republic. .

  • @QuantaSolace
    @QuantaSolace Рік тому

    I get the idea behind it but it honestly sounds exhausting after having to move it after an x amount of years.

  • @Sparrow118
    @Sparrow118 Рік тому +1

    Honestly the New Republic has the same energy as post WWI Europe. Bad things are happening in the festering wound they left from the previous war but they do nothing to nip it in the bud while it's small. Kinda oversimplified but still...

  • @daniels7907
    @daniels7907 Рік тому

    Betcha that with the destruction of the Hosnian system and the New Republic Senate and government there, the capital will move back to Coruscant. A rotating capital was always a stupid idea, because the Senate is legendary for its gridlock, and Mon Mothma was bizarrely sentimental about the days of Valorum's ineffectual leadership. So arguments about the next capital could go on forever unless they make the obvious choice and just move back to Coruscant.

  • @42crano
    @42crano Рік тому +1

    J J Adams wanted to blow it up.

  • @musicaccount7116
    @musicaccount7116 Рік тому +2

    Lol ya i didnt even realize there was rotating capitals. It didnt help them in the end anyways. I dont understand why writers have to make them dumb. Just so the bad guys can do some bad stuff. I mean I atched all the planets blowup but since nothing was established and i didnt know any character. It didnt have a big impact to me. Instead of it giving the impression to me that FO built up all this time and was smart and dangerous, Instead the New Reublic is just dumb af. No prep, no military, not even sensors to detect enemy ships.

  • @ElementVoidX
    @ElementVoidX Рік тому

    there is a reason for the saying, "if you want peace then prepare for war"

  • @DefecTec
    @DefecTec Рік тому +5

    That’s just the Disney garbage new republic, the Legends New Republic was based and NEVER DEMILITARIZED

  • @marcusmcclendon6681
    @marcusmcclendon6681 3 місяці тому

    Is no one gonna talk about how the Star Wars Galaxy is completely without leadership now 😮

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 Рік тому

    I love your videos so much

  • @MrGeorge01
    @MrGeorge01 Рік тому +3

    F Disney.
    I'm not listening to their version of the story.
    It doesn't exist for me

  • @Slick_Nick11
    @Slick_Nick11 Рік тому +3

    Overcompensating by being overly positive and creative toxic positivity. And becoming extremely soft and vulnerable. Sounds familiar. 🇺🇸

  • @clarity2199
    @clarity2199 Рік тому +1

    Actually the reason Coruscant wasn't one of the targets was because Lucas film decided to change it. Originally, it was going to be blown up....Bad Robot wanted that as one of the targets, but Lucas film decided no. That's the only real reason it wasn't blown up. I love how all this bs history is added to try and cover up all the garbage plots from the movies, but the fact of the matter is Lucas Film/Disney has no clue what they're doing, and we're not going to get decent Star Wars anymore until Disney goes bankrupt and sells themselves off in pieces. And at the rate Disney is going with their movies lately, eventually it's going to happen.

  • @ryanlaurie8733
    @ryanlaurie8733 Рік тому +2

    Ah yes, all these superfical changes to cover up that the new republic fixed almost none of the issues that led to the empire to begin with.

    • @darkelfninja8351
      @darkelfninja8351 19 днів тому

      Agreed. The New Republic had so many of the Old Republic's flaws, and no Jedi Order to help hold things together.

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +4

    Its a bad idea. Corusant is a symbol, and the people were yo blame for the empire as much ss palpatine, they allowed themselves yo be manipulated and turned on the jedi. And left themselves defenless against thr empire. 25 thousand years of jefi protection and many many wars . Butt the resl problem is the people writing star wars .

  • @undisclosed_branding9714
    @undisclosed_branding9714 Рік тому

    I hate talking about the sequels. It feels like work.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 Рік тому +2

    Wow!

  • @Idkidkidk716
    @Idkidkidk716 Рік тому

    The Star Wars galaxy is massive with far too many habitable worlds it’s foolish for any government to be able to manage so much territory.

  • @davidbaker2856
    @davidbaker2856 Рік тому +3

    Everything from the sequels is a mistake

  • @tsarfox3462
    @tsarfox3462 Рік тому +2

    So the First Order could blow up The New Republic Capitol and not blow up a cool planet Disney probably wants to use in the future.

    • @АлексейМомот-щ7о
      @АлексейМомот-щ7о Рік тому +1

      Coruscant is cool because it's the capital, Disney changes made it not cool. Way to undermine their own story.

  • @grayflaneur4854
    @grayflaneur4854 Рік тому +1

    Never read the comments. Like the video if you choose, but avoid the comments. Advice from an old Jedi Holocron concerning the avoidance of B.S.

  • @masters1902
    @masters1902 Рік тому +1

    This is the problem with the sequel share the power and in a few short years they jump into a new empire with no build and no sense of fear just a short weak story 😊

  • @Matt-yg8ub
    @Matt-yg8ub Рік тому

    Cruscant exists as the capital, if you move the capital off that planet, you’ve pretty much doomed that planet

  • @razzelnuts
    @razzelnuts Рік тому

    Alternate video title: How Disney screwed up the Star Wars Universe by making 7-9

  • @chadflanaganCFC
    @chadflanaganCFC Рік тому

    I don't think moving the capital was a bad idea, if anything even with the destruction of the new republic capital it's still a decent idea as it means that the new republic can potentially rise again even if destroyed, but I do think the dissolution of it's military forces and leaving the capital undefended was extremely naive.

  • @stevenasidilla4140
    @stevenasidilla4140 Рік тому +1

    Because courasant is the embodiment of corruption in all star wars.

  • @nathanieljohnson5414
    @nathanieljohnson5414 Рік тому

    This is one of many reasons I still stick to the old canon😒

  • @TheJcjonesacp
    @TheJcjonesacp Рік тому +2

    More sequel trilogy crap that makes little sense, rotating capitals are dumb, a capital is a capital for various reasons, location, ease of access, fortification, trade and cultural hubs. Having a rotating capital is not smart or viable it spreads your forces thin for defense.
    Your right you they did overcompensate for the crimes of the empire

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +1

    Much of the Canon lore of SW I hate. Legends should've stayed Canon. That's what I think.

  • @matthewlo55
    @matthewlo55 Рік тому

    Because Disney wanted to?

  • @beaupierrebondurant5651
    @beaupierrebondurant5651 Рік тому +5

    Multiple capitals ...huge mistake.

  • @daveonwheeler7412
    @daveonwheeler7412 Рік тому +1

    They should have known better

  • @kaidorade1317
    @kaidorade1317 Рік тому

    Coruscant getting canceled? So Twitter exists in SW?

  • @djnavarro3212
    @djnavarro3212 Рік тому

    In my opinion Coruscant will always be the capital of the Old Republic

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 Рік тому +1

    This is wrong. They just overcompensated out of fear,complexes. Extremely stuoid idea. Coruscant wasn't bad. It's the people who run it. Coruscant is beautiful,city-planet metropolis thriving,shining with life,opportunities,culture,jobs,hope. Coruscant should be capital of the Republic. And the galaxy. Forever if possible. May the Force be with you too

    • @Time-machinery-er9dq
      @Time-machinery-er9dq 3 місяці тому +1

      Apparently, the lower levels of Coruscant are horrible places to live in, filled with disease and horrible breathing conditions, with Level 1 being basically a massive dump…

    • @Gor85
      @Gor85 3 місяці тому

      @@Time-machinery-er9dq they are. it's beyond hell

  • @johndavidson2365
    @johndavidson2365 Рік тому +2

    Am I the only one who thinks that the new Republic sounds an awful lot like the current U. S government

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 Рік тому +1

    Sss!

  • @treethoown6414
    @treethoown6414 Рік тому +3

    Imagine Germans tried to move the capital from Berlin (with all its existing systems, population, infrastructure) anywhere else just cause of bad history lol; expand such campaign to a planet level infrastructure.

  • @abscess7476
    @abscess7476 Рік тому +2

    mOo

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS Рік тому +1

    NNNNNNOOOOOOO

  • @samuelrobles3737
    @samuelrobles3737 Рік тому +1

    Day 344 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

    • @rebelfighter5249
      @rebelfighter5249 Рік тому

      Day 344 of you being an annoying pest. Just shut up about this already, smh. 🤦

  • @archtrooper7079
    @archtrooper7079 Рік тому +1

    This is one of the very FEW Disney lore that deserves good credit. Here is world building at its best…
    …but that is where it ends. Unfortunately, this is short lived as this only flows into the failure of Episode 7 and the blunder of the sequel trilogy.
    Why is good writing and excellent storytelling being used to band-aid Kennedy/Disney FUBAR take over of Star Wars?

  • @bloodknight7420
    @bloodknight7420 Рік тому +1

    Ohhhhh I feel a gave distance in the Force….when Papa comes back he won’t be happy with them because didn’t he make the planet richer and more stable by building more jobs……🧎‍♂️

  • @MrBucky769
    @MrBucky769 10 місяців тому

    Long live the empire the republic and the jedi where stupid

  • @master9147
    @master9147 Рік тому +1

    No, Jar Jar Abrams wanted to blow it up but House of Mouse said no.