Why is In A Violent Nature so Messed Up?
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SHAFFER, Marshall. (2024). Interview: Chris Nash on Taking Stylistic Risks in Horror with ‘In a Violent Nature’. Slate Magazine: www.slantmagaz...
FOREMAN, Alison. (2024). How Ultra-Vi*lent ‘In a Vi*lent Nature’ Captured the Vibe of a Comfort Watch: ‘It’s a Mesmerizing Effect’. Indie Wire: www.indiewire....
MCCLUSKEY, Megan (2024) The Director of In a Violent Nature on Giving Viewers a Slasher ’Spectacle They Hadn’t Seen Before’. Time: time.com/69831...
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Edit: Remembering that you appreciated Apollo 18 for its sense of style inspite of its issues i think youll like AASB. It has a lot more substance and originality to it
I think the locket is instructive in that, even when animals do WEIRD things, they usually aren't doing RANDOM things. The animal is operating off of some need or perception.
Makes me think of the phenomenon of the "Ant Death Spiral". Ants make their little lines using pheromone trails, but these degrade over time if not reinforced. And sometimes, when you have a bunch of trails that criss cross, your lead ant might accidentally jump tracks and double back on their own trail. And all the other ants just keep following that trail. Ironically, this can wind up sucking in OTHER ants, since the constant retreading of the death spiral loads it up with so much pheromones the other ants assume that MUST be the most important. And there the ants will march in a circle until they die.
Now, the BEHAVIOR of the ants is obviously strange and absurd. But at no point were the ants doing this for no reason. That lead ant first getting confused on where to go is entirely physical in nature, they just were making the best guess they could about where to go with the information it had.
And that's where the locket fits in with Johnny. We understand its importance from a human perspective, but to Johnny, it is just "the thing I need". And even the little red car doesn't necessarily break the framing, because I just immediately thought of those random videos of bears playing on trampolines or messing around with a hammock.
Well said!
SPOILER TALK:
The last few minutes of the film I felt were the best. I think I would've liked it if the film was shorter and we could go that scene faster.
Switching the perspective to the final survivor after spending the entire movie with the killer made it extremely unnerving, because you're now always on the edge about the whereabouts of the killer, and when is he going to attack again.
I absolutely understand why some people dislike it so much, but this has been one of my favorite horror movies of the year so far, after Late Night with the Devil
I thought the cinematography and practical effects were absolutely fantastic and some of the kills were very imaginatively staged, but other than that it failed to leave much of an impression on me, really. Very generic story, and a gimmick that doesn't really hold up throughout the length of the movie. I was probably expecting too much of it, idk, but I remember feeling distinctly underwhelmed as the credits rolled. I watched it just a couple of months ago, and honestly (awesome kills aside) I'm struggling to remember anything about it now.
Also it annoyed me when everyone was going "omg a slasher movie from the perspective of the killer, that's so unique!" like, are we just gonna forget that Behind The Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon was a thing?!
That's not the movie's fault, of course, but it still probably contributed subconsciously to how willing I was to accept it🤷♂
I enjoyed it (and Late Night with the Devil) a great deal as well.
Shudder's been doing well this year. They've got a new V/H/S coming out in a week too.
@@JurassicRod I'm really looking forward to that, the preliminary reviews are quite positive. Here's hoping it's up to the same standards as 94, cause the last two have been pretty "meh"
Agreed. I think people didn't take the movie being from the killer's pov seriously.
It's A Day in The Life of Jason Vorhees.
😅
The Jason Show.
In a Violent Nature is the closest to something I’ve always wanted: Canadian Wolf Creek. Like Wolf Creek it takes its home county’s vast amount of empty wilderness (Australias outback/Canadas dense forests) and uses its killer has a metaphor for the, well, violent nature.
i'd say Wolf Creek's defining feature isn't the wilderness but how the antagonist is both charismatic and disturbing
@@r99716the charismatic performance might be what most people think of first for Wolf Creek but if one were analyzing the films themes the relationship to the landscape is pretty important imo. It’s Micks domain, it’s not theirs. The literal last shot is Mick *fading into* the scenery
Tl;dr: the two movies killers are very different but their themes are very similar
Interesting comparison! I'm Canadian, with cousins in Australia. We have a long running joke that our countries are just upside down versions of each other; both are big and full of wilderness, climate, and animals that want to kill the hell out of you, just that one is full of hot deserts, and the other is full of cold forests. Both want to kill you though, and will if you give them half a chance. The description of this movie as "Canadian Wolf Creek" cements our shared opinion.
Also, both places make *WAY* better beer than anything you'll find in the States! 😉
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Jason Voorhees is probably lawyering up against Johnny like he's Uber.
Perfect fall horror.
I really enjoyed this movie. One of my favourites of the year. It was like slasher ASMR. Lots of beautiful calm moments before gnarly kills. What's not to love?
I thought it was boring and really stupid but everyone is different
There was nothing to love...the kills were stupid the girl that got killed with the hook didn't even react..however if you liked it at least you got something out of it that I didnt
@@HighEnlightenment-bd3os nice b8
Definitely in my top 10 this year. Maybe even top 5. I really dug it. Hopefully there's a sequel or prequel. Doubt it though.
Great video (as always)! Would love to see your thoughts on Longlegs. I thought it was super well-shot and acted but that the script let it down a bit
When you really look at the film it’s a very good homage to classic horror in a very subversive horror film but once you watch it for long enough the whole “Watch a Serial Killer walk For 60+ Minutes Straight while Killing People” Gets Repetitive at Times 🤷♀️
That's about what I felt. I get the point, but it didn't do anything for me 🥲
Yeah i was so bored, i understood the nuance but like damn nothing happened
Came down here to say the same, "attempt" is the key word in my opinion. It's a new take and I'm always for that, but it misses the mark for me. I had the same feel with Skinamarink too, neat idea, micro budget, just didn't do it for me.
Sounds like it would’ve worked better as a short film or an episode of an anthology show.
When you really look at the film it's a very good homage but also when you look at it some more it's repetitive? I find this confusing.
Maybe I'm just autistic but I love every detail about this movie down to the radio playing in the background hearing a news broadcast
I'm pretty sure this movie was made by and for the spectrum...
I loved it too. Personally though, I'd have been happy if they cut the car ride out at the end, or totally re-wrote the dialogue. That part didn't work for me.
@@devonglide1830 yeah, the whole ending kind of took me out of it. Trying to force the audience to relate with that character right at the end seemed odd.
@@Slaughterproof at first i thought she was going to play a role as like Johnny's sister or whatever would be convenient for the timeline. also would've been a tongue and cheek irony considering her being in the 2nd friday the 13th movie (which is already a huge influence for this movie)
Obligatory comment for the algorithm. You mak fantastic videos
That yoga scene left me with my jaw open
Spoil us, please?
I've been describing it as "The goriest kill of 2024 until Terrifier 3 comes out."
@VinnyPTAstartes well Ryan essentially says what happens in the video. But it's mainly the grotesque detail to the scene and threatening practical effects
that scene was ridiculous
It's one of the dumbest kill scenes in a while, no suspense at all just "I'm gonna stand here so kill me" even though there was plenty of places for her to run. Even the characters in the F13 movies try to run, this movie was just shit
It's horror "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead".
Hi Ryan. Keep up the great work!
Love the vids and loved this movie. I think a very fun film to cover would be “Session 9”, a movie from the early 2000’s that I found to hold up surprisingly well!
Funny you should mention that!
Super underrated movie. The reason it wasn't a hit is that it was released the same week as 9/11, which understandably overshadowed it. Definitely my favourite movie in the "creepy abandoned mental hospital" subgenre (though I'll always have a soft spot for Grave Encounters, of course).
I have a soft spot for experimental films, they may fall flat for a lot of people but any amount of willingness to try something different, however slightly, for once is enough for me in the horror genre
I agree. The ranger's kill was faaaar more disturbing since all he could do was wait..and wait...and wait. Makes you wonder how much physical pain was actually experienced while simply waiting to die.
Zero. He was completely paralyzed. Which detracts immensely from the scene. He was turned into a quadriplegic.
@_Cynthia_Main.-Agreed. As Ryan said, the yoga kill was definitely the most visually gruesome kill in the movie, but the park ranger's death was the one that got under my skin & really unsettled me. The idea that Johnny was basically showing the park ranger exactly what he was going to do to him, &, all the park ranger could do was watch & wait for the moment of death (as you pointed out, most likely in great pain) was deeply disturbing. It was like the head on a stick scene in Wolf Creek, but even more horrifying. Also the way that Johnny would stalk his victims, patiently waiting for the moment to strike, was eerily reminiscent of Michael Myers in Halloween.
@@MrSirMang really? None at all? Not even when his head was crushed? I realized that he couldn't feel his body, hence the inability to move, but you'd think he would feel something eventually. Anyway, I think the psychological torture would be much greater, which ultimately was the point of the scene. The "locked-in syndrome" as Ryan described is what was giving me the biggest anxiety while watching it play out. The yoga scene was just kind of ridiculous, imo, and it's doubtful that she would still be on her feet after he basically punched a hole through her body, let alone be able to turn around.
Hollinger covering a pretty brand new movie?! How exciting!
The first thing that overwhelmingly strikes me about this, as a nature lover, is that it sets itself a very particular thematic trap -- maybe it solve it well--I don't know. Thing is, wild animals do not, by nature, do violence if they don't have to, particularly with humans, and complicated torture is not often a thing with them. One good author neatly explained animal hunting as not so much motivated by killing the prey, as by the need to keep it still long enough to eat. Now that mapped onto human cannibalism and hunting would be it's own kind of horror, but wierdly, we intead get devided here between Jonny as a person with human family, who's meatally not all there, but whose motives are to some degree relatable and make sense as human and jonney as some kind of wild animal metiphore -but not quite, because this also wants to gesture toward clssic slasher and that always has more to do with human fears of animals as we immagine them than real animals. Agiain the movie may do better with this than I expect. A truely good strategy would be to have a pogression of "humanness" or "animalness" in Jonny that says somethig valuable about other themes. I think I wish this was more my kinda movie - more thoughtful, less shock-based, because I'm just so happy to find something set in Northern Ontario, which is in the same province of the same country where I live.
"Thing is, wild animals do not, by nature, do violence if they don't have to," Absolutely wrong. For example Monkeys, rats and dolphins at the top of their hierarchy enjoys exercing violence over the weakest of the group.
For a “nature lover” you are poorly informed about how it works. You seem to also have a failing understanding of “violence”
You legit made shit up and then just ran with it.
Who, what, or where can you point to as a source for any of the bullshit you are spewing?
Did you just want to share about yourself and let everyone know how smart you are?
Wtf even is this comment?!
@----248 true. Killer whales are also known to kill for fun and torment other animals as well. Not to mention many felines, including house cats, that enjoy playing with their food before they kill it, and often they don't even eat what they kill.
I think we have a tendency to place "nature" up on a pedestal as a symbol of innocence and purity, when in truth nature is blood red in tooth and claw. Even plants are aggressive and predatory, choking other plants out of water and nutrients by extending roots under other plants or starving them of light in the shade of their leaves. The one thing nature truly is is indifferent. It does not care who you are, what your beliefs are or your social class. Once you are lost in the woods you are officially back on the food chain.
I’d love to see and episode on I Saw The TV Glow
I'm pretty sure one of the people working on the movie said it was pretty much a slasher movie film franchise where we just start in the middle of it, with backstory and returning legacy character.
I mean yeah, they imply that this is like the third time Johnny's gone on one of these rampages.
A family friend helped make this movie I can’t believe you’re covering it!
That's awesome!
What is everyones favorite thing/trope about horror movies? I always loved the monster designs, lore, practical effects... also horror related to family dynamics and human connections.
I love the tension, mystery and atmosphere.🖤 Definitely love a good origin story for the killer, as well as the location and production design. Dig the social aspect too.
I'm waiting for a movie that follows Ryan Hollinger doing his research and editing for HORROR HOYEVER Video.
During the hurricane that's hitting me i have Ryan to keep me entertained. This was a nice review.
Next week will be spooky season again, i can't wait to see what Ryan has in store.
It's already spooky season lmao
We've been keeping up-to-date here in Ireland about Helene (weather-obsessed and who can blame us?). Read it's slightly downgraded but still ferocious. Take care.
@@redcherry8137 not really but okay
@@itabrennan7420 thanks I'm trying to be safe and stay in.
I had to miss out on work
@mandalorianhunter1 So American! To heck with work, stay safe. Here, we get 2 inches of snow in the Winter, the whole country grounds to a halt. Except the pubs!
I am overwhelmed by an urge to go to Johnny's Shack, wake him up my moving the locket to the side to keep it safe, and giving him some toy cars, a Pb&J with the crust cut off, and a cola.
I'd also give him a case for the locket so it doesn't get taken or lost.
My boy deserves something nice.
Love this time of the year where im paranoid walking down the street 🎉🎉🎉🎉
This was such an interesting watch for me. It was a peaceful trudge through lovely woods punctuated with some of the most thought-inducing kills I've ever seen. The lake kill was probably the most dark, just because you have to imagine what's happening beneath the calm surface, and it's immediately followed by full-contact yoga, which was an experience.
I actually didn't even consider that Johnny was scared by Mr. Hero at the end, I thought the frantic chopping was him throwing a child's tantrum towards these assholes who are essentially bullying him with a never-ending game of monkey in the middle. Great work as always, dude!
I went to the panel for this at SDCC. It was fun. :-)
Yoga Girl's kill is just bloody and graphic, the Ranger's kill is literally just evil LMAO Definitely one of the best movie kills this year!
And i get why the ending is polarizing, but i wholeheartedly agree with you that its a genuinely masterful bit of filmmaking; I appreciate it more and more every time i think about it
I can see why people would find the movie too slow for their taste, but I swear so many people seem just unable to pay attention to one thing for longer than a minute. A movie isn't bad because you don’t have the attention span to watch something longer than a tiktok.
Hey Ryan, sincerely hope you'll cover Alien Romulus and Incantation thank you
Have you watched Speak no evil? It's a Dutch-Danish film from 2022 that I found pretty fun to watch. It's getting an American remake somewhere this year
I strongly dislike the categorization of 2 camps regarding this film.
I'm no casual (I watch Ryan Hollinger vids ffs) and I "get it" - it just didn't make for an engaging watch.
The kills were cool though.
Most logical and rational immortal slasher-flick serial clapper - gets kids of his lawn, returns his trinket and goes back to sleep.
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I really enjoyed it, a deconstruction of the genre with some really cool kills and constant growing dread
That line about fluff to cover the lack of foundation & structure (paraphrasing) is 100% how I felt about Longlegs. So damn bad. One of the most bizarre real life experiences to hear everyone gushing over it.
maybe the real horror was getting a 15 second unskippable ad on this video
I adored it. I just loved being mesmerised by the pace, then jarred by the gore. It's like an airplane's blackbox recording.
The performance is very Kane Hodder-esque, who was always the best part of the Friday the 13th films
Interesting new horror movie I probably won't watch, but a video about it from Ryan Hollinger is right up my alley!
The distraction guy....what was he thinking?! Lol. Not that close!
@@jwnj9716 have to say I laughed my ass off at that move. I mean, I understand the stupid decision trope, but not THAT stupid! 😂
I have to say that him being autistic elevates this movie a lot in a way I was not expecting. I find him relatable in a way that's both unsettling and comforting.
Reminds me of a story where a hunter killed a tiger (or lion) and their partner went on a revenge mission killing any human they came across
It's videos like these that make me appreciate and want to re-watch a movie I didn't like the first time. I'll give it another shot. Thanks, Ryan!
This comment is just to reccomed johnny the homicidal maniac. It's pretty good and I thought about it when you said "Johnny's our lad".hope you read it and if not thank you for the video I like your art it's fun.
JTHM is such a great comic! I was hooked on it while in art school back when it was first being published in the 90's, and it was refreshingly lighthearted yet thoughtful over the top violence. I still adore Nailbunny.
Johnny makes a cameo in Invader Zim.
I like this movie because it does what I have asked horror movies for a long time: show horror from a non-human perspective. Bottom line, the forest is the hero that needs saving, and the people are the strangers abusing it.
Last Straw is a good horror movie that came out recently but hasn't had much attention. A better version of The Strangers but set at a diner. Be interesting to hear you cover that.
JurassicRod-Never heard of Last Straw, might need to look it up. If you liked The Strangers then you should watch the French home invasion movie Them. It's basically the same idea as The Strangers, but i personally found Them to be far more terrifying (i still can't bring myself to rewatch that movie if i'm home alone).
@@kirstyfairly4371 I actually don't like The Strangers, it always felt like an inferior version of Them which I love! I found Last Straw better than The Strangers too. But I agree on Them, it was the first film to have me on the edge of my seat for years when I first watched it. So tense.
@@JurassicRod -Nice to finally find someone else who didn't like The Strangers. I could never understand why i keep seeing so many people raving about The Strangers (& that's coming from someone who's terrified by the idea of home invasion by the way). On the other hand Them, gave me my first, & thankfully so far only, panic attack after i watched it the first time.
@@kirstyfairly4371 Maybe it's because I had already seen Them a few years before The Strangers so it seemed inferior by comparison.
Please do Dogtooth!
Finally they used a Smoke Helmet for horror!
Seriously these old things are nightmare fuel!
Light spoiler!!! But, the yoga girl scene made me feel sick. Ive been watching horror my entire life, never really needed to stop a horror movie i was watching
That scene did. Its only one of a few films that has managed to make me feel ill enough to have to stop. I couldnt get it out of my head for like a week
Other two movies that did something close was Nope and You'll Never Find Me. Flawless films.
The minute and a half leading into yoga girl scene and then the 4 minutes after completely took me out of that scene. Mind numbing walking boredom.
I haven't seen the film, so I really hope I'm reading too much into this, but it feels like between the backstory and some of the characterization of undead Johnny overlapping with Autistic needs (regulation being a top priority, intense connection to a "comfort object", easily startled/disregulated by noises) that the movie might fall into a trap of associating an Autistic character with baseness, savagery, de-evolution. There's also the disgusting trope of "r word strength" (see also Of Mice and Men) that does truly endanger real life disabled people. Again, hope I'm misreading, but can any Autistic folks who have seen the movie share their thoughts?
I know I’m a big baby, but I was genuinely weeping during the scene where he plays with the toy car. This poor lil zombie guy just wants his necklace and his toys, he didn’t want to be a killing machine, even though he’s filled with rage and so dang good at it. But that’s his curse now.
I loved the heck out of this movie. The long treks through the woods were nowhere near as long as I was led to believe by other reviews. The story was bare bones and hit all the slasher tropes needed to establish a movie like this. The kills were 100% predictable (well, almost- RIP navel gazing yoga gurl) but I think that was the point. The whole movie is very formulaic right up until the end. Then the long treks thru the woods pay off in a tension filled ending where all the rules we've been following from the beginning suddenly no longer apply.
Absolutely loved this film. Incredibly cool to see it in the theater on a big screen and also just very grateful a movie like this got a bigger theatrical release. Yoga girl kill is probably my favorite kill of all time. My friend and I were laughing our asses off at how insane it was. I'll never forget it. Very excited to see what the director does next.
I really liked it for the most part, but I found the scenes that everyone is raving about to be the most amateur. The pretzel kill, for example, felt like the victim was focussing on whether she was standing in the right spot and waiting a ridiculous amount of time to be killed. Some aspects felt amateur in a way that would be a deal breaker even in the low budget 80s slashers it’s so lovingly paying tribute to.
Your review added depth to the film that I didn't see when I watched it. I thought it was just a gory slasher flick with arty sensibilities. Thanks for giving me a better perspective on it.
If you're looking for quirky recommendations for future videos, might I suggest THESE FINAL HOURS, an Aussie-made apocalyptic sci-fi/urban horror flick from 2014? It deserves greater recognition as it's really bloody good: violent, bleak and at times quite moving.
I'd give it a 6-7/10. Not amazing but not terrible, just "good" enough. The yoga scene was pretty memorable, though. I still think the Terrifier movies have significantly more shock factor.
Sorry Ryan, I'm happy for you that you loved this but much like Prometheus, this is a shallow movie with pretentions of something interesting and deep which is fine. Love it for the ultra violent and sometimes pretty yet moronic movie it is. To dislike this movie does not mean it's simply too not mainstream for you, it almost certainly is too predictable and honestly mainstream.
I am curious about the sequel though. For a movie with nothing to say (which is honestly fine) that so many people seem to say is unique and profound, it will be interesting seeing if the next movie actually does something unique and interesting.
I find the mask in question of interest because if I'm right, it represents a historical significant moment in life saving, making an interesting juxtaposition with its use by the killer . it's appearance mimics that of the Vajen Bader Smoke Helmet. This helmet invented about 1893 by Willis Vajen and William Bader, is considered the first to have it's own air supply. The helmet would become a great success not just in the US, but around the world, marking a major change in the abilities of firefighters and the like.
Even if you're looking at the film completely superficially, the idea of a slasher film from the villain's perspective is good fun.
I really liked Violent Nature. Clearly it has its weaknesses, but its strengths as a horror movie (I'm actually not even sure if it is a horror - it's violent, but is it horror? Is a nature documentary horror?) is tied to atmospher and violence. I also love the sound design and cinematography. Characters and dialogue were pretty weak, felt kind of like a Friday the 13th video game.
Looks scary. I don't have my primary account to comment from, I enthused in the majority of these type of avant garde horrors. Hollinger has covered them all, Possum etc. Is it trauma healing or doing the opposite? I want a review of Collector 2.
The movie was good when it kept to its premise of following the killer, when it left him for the other characters it was so boring, the whole conversation in the car at the end could have been cut out and the film would have been vastly better for it.
They way you describe how nature shows indifference during the drowning scene reminds me of the poem, There will come soft Rains.
My wife and I LOVED this movie. I was nervous going into it cuz all I had been hearing was how good it was for horror nerds like myself. Whenever I get that stoked the movie almost never lives up. This was the rate exception. While watching it I really enjoyed thinking about how the movie would look playing out from the campers perspective. It would look like any 80s campy slasher. Brilliant
Having the music playing on Ehren's Walkman start slowing down due to the battery dying (to illustrate just how long his body was being dragged to the ranger station), was a brilliant touch IMO. I guess younger people wouldn't understand why the music was slowing down though (as the batteries in a cassette Walkman die, the tape is played slower and slower).
I adore your breakdowns on films. This may, however, be my favorite of yours to date. I have watched couple other breakdowns and your take gave me a whole new perspective. Thank you!!
Love the work you do, used to watch a lot in high school and was started with you cannibal holocaust video. Just recently got back into it due to being out of work and I have developed a new found love for horror cinematography.
While I was here I just wanted to recommend a movie to cover not necessarily a horror movie but I think Nightcrawler (2014) starring Jake Gyllenhaal
I got to see this at a film festival before its wide release with the film's editor in attendance and during a small Q&A afterwards he dropped some fun bits of trivia
1. Colt getting his head absolutely obliterated was referred to by he and director Nash as their "Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes" moment
2. The film was shot in its entirety two separate times, with the final film being 99% from the second pass of filming. Apparently, nothing from the first attempt at filming "worked" according to Nash and he likened it to "the Stab films from Scream"
The first kill was such a disappointing start for the film, everyone saw it's every detail coming a mile away.
Decent watch overall but first impressions n shit...
It was original until it wasn’t. Keep the over the shoulder cam throughout the whole movie. Felt like they didn’t know what they were doing at the end. That speech felt forced and boring
I thought the thumbnail was taken from a SpongeBob episode for a second.
I really need to lay off the hash, it’s starting to become a problem.
I've always described it as if we watched Jason from his POV. It would be boring just watching him look for victims, but that's what kind of made me laugh and enjoy the movie more.
Another awesome video! I commented this before but you covering the analog Horror series “The Walten Files” would be the best thing that ever happened to me lol. It’s the most terrifying and oddly sad and personal analog horror I’ve seen, and it does five nights at Freddy concepts better than five nights at Freddy’s. Love this channel, keep at it!
Not sure if my prior comment was deleted or not, but...
I loved that little moment of Johnny playing with the toy car, only for his anger to be reawakened by mention of someone else's late-father, reminding him of the murder of his own and setting his path back on to hunting the teens that had disrupted his rest. Poor guy just wants to be left in peace, and that gets reinforced with Kris' actions at the conclusion. And Dead Meat pointed out that a lot of what Johnny is drawn to is sound - combined with his lack of vision (you can see that his eyes are milky as all hell), it might be that he may have hypersensitive hearing, which would make a *lot* of sense when coupled with your assessment of his being Autistic (the movie describes him as "mentally hindered"), and how *supremely* violently he reacts when Colt yells from right behind him.
Wolf Creek 2 is so much better than the original (which is a great movie in it's own right) because of the story being told through Micks eyes. This only works because Mick is such a likeable psychopath.
I loved how she just peaced out and didn’t even bother with the final girl trope. The ending was absolutely perfect in that sense. I think most casual Horror fans expected a final battle and Johnny’s defeat, and when they didn’t get it they “didn’t get it”.
hey, bro. Can you review 1962's Cape Fear? Robert Mitchum's performance is more terrifying than michael myers or any supernatural slasher. Maybe compare it to the remake?
I wonder if we can resolve some of the supposed conflict thusly. Johnny IS an animal. All humans are.
Johnny is just more in synch with the natural world whereas most humans actively stray from and are in conflict with it.
We're all animals but Johnny is just more in touch with his.
So I actually really enjoyed it, but at the same time was very let down by some of the choices they made. One, I didn't really like how several of the kills lacked luster, they also did some off screen which was lame. Two, I didn't like that we see the killers face, it seemed unnecessary with the rules they set for the rest of the film. Three, the ending sucked, and the reason for his is again, the rules and tone they went with. I feel a better ending would've had Johnny still track down and kill our final girl, also killing the woman who was kind enough to stop and save her life. Then as he finishes, hears other teens elsewhere and walks off into a cut to black. Which would've compounded the woman's story about the bear, that sometimes nature is wicked and brutal, that it didn't matter if he got the locket back because at the end of the day, he's the embodiment of nature's pure and unadulterated disregard for our comfort. And the utter heart break of seeing our final girl killed, and left with the grim reality of nature.
Honestly I only got the movie on a very surface level, I just thought of it as a POV shift but I never heard the framing of Johnny being a tool of nature and behaving as an animal. That really changes the entire vibe of the movie for me and now I really want to see it again to see if this changes how I perceive it
Johnny isn't an old man tryna get kids off his lawn as Ryan states. All he ever does is in service of retrieving his locket. The only reason he chases the hunter in the beginning is because he's an obstacle between him and the wrong locket. As for the end when he no longer chases the final girl it's all since he finally got his locket. Anything between him and his locket was fair game. The only time he goes out of his way to kill and possibly take pleasure is when he killed the Park Ranger. Then the allegory for the bear and johnny doesn't make sense either. The Bear was killing just to kill. Johnny only killed in order to get his locket. You can like the movie for being cheesy like old slasher shlock, but don't pretend its high art. The director knows it, and more people should understand that.
I really enjoyed the movie, even when people weren’t getting brutalized. I liked the peaceful, almost quiet atmosphere as Johnny was lumbering around.
I loved this movie. I know a lot of people hate the ending and wish it had ended 10 minutes earlier, but I think that's missing the point; I think the last 10 minutes are the most suspenseful because you're not sure if he's going to pop out and get her, and when he doesn't it's going against the "final scare" we often got in the Friday films. I think it's "subverting expectations" done right.
If you enjoy watching over the killers shoulder, have I got a movie for you. & if you like ‘walking’, watch out.
I didn't really care for that ending but I understand, for reasons you stated, that is probably why that is why it was done. As much as i would've liked to witness Johnny's happy ending as he notices the locket and goes back to his reasting place, that might have been just as polarizing.
I loved this movie, I also think "Black Flies" is a banger, and I'm really glad you included it at the end of the video.
i saw this movie and i thought it was alright, but based on how everyone was hyping it up, it was a little underwhelming... I think that the movie POV of following the killer is really interesting though, and should be explored further in more movies
Great video Ryan. Your comparison of the movie's split nature of camp, gore and experimental elements to getting stoned and lit on white claws before going out for a fancy tasting was especially fun and well put together!
On a binge of your videos at the moment. Always great to watch. Know it's schlocky but would love your take on The Frighteners - was the movie that got my kid brain into the genre
I watched this film expecting it to be some generic slasher film. I was half right, until I noticed how the perspective was mainly focused on the killer instead of the group of teens. That caught my attention. The whole time, I had an open mind, trying to piece together the story based on what characters say, what the killer did, etc. I enjoyed this film for what it what was doing. My only issue is the act they showed his face. I really believe that masked killers should remained masked to keep them intimidating 😂
Anyways, this film was so interesting. The fact that it kept some slasher tropes made me think this is how all the quiet slasher killers in popular franchises act when the camera is focused on the teens.
It’s really a great film. The way I slowly put together that not only are we in a slasher movie, but specifically a slasher sequel. What a great detail. I’ve rarely been so entertained by nothing happening.
Ryan, you missed your lifetime opportunity to promote Vessis. "For long, silent hikes through the woods with heavy duty tools, Vessis are your companions and the easy to clean surface makes sure that no blood splatters ruin their look."
To me this seemed like one of those open world video games, the slow plodding killer reminded me of the Hitman games (I haven't had a console since the Playstaion 2 20 years ago). I liked it, but I don't think I'd ever feel the need to watch it again.
Had some cool scenes but the last like 15 mins is terrible , also if you selling me the movie is from the killer’s perspective I want the whole hour thirty plus to be that loll