True. The most overrated horse I have seen race in Australia since the mid sixties. Only started once at 1400 as a five year old. Months before going to England I said this horse would struggle. Lengths behind Vain and Luskin Star and most of the above were better
Scenic Blast's was a freakish performance - the way he gathered them in from the back within a hundred yards, then stormed away. Magnus, another Aussie horse, deserved to win a big one, but there was always a better one on the day
Missing Haradasun. But what an awesome bunch of horses Black Caviar the greatest but Takeover Target and Choiser we’re legends. Miss Andretti got touched up by Sacred Kingdom who was the best at the time and in the top 5 greatest sprinters ever.
@@adamgarvey5074 You mean to use a horse exclusively as the pacemaker for another designated one? Just like Bullet Train, which was later often used as the pacemaker for Frankel?
Great horses are not afraid to take on the near impossible and get beaten on occasions like Takeover Target. Crisp ,Vain etc. Protected species like Black Caviar with only one start as a five year old over 1400 go to the bottom of the list in my opinion
@@rajahhindi3921 Winx took them all on over many distances within Australia. Would never call Winx a wimp like Black Caviar the protected species. Yes Wink and Frankel should have gone overseas.
@SvendBosanvovski I pretty sure that was because he eased her down too early and then went again at the line. Lucky that mistake didn't end her career prematurely.
Black caviar pulled up lame after the race with some muscle tears, took the jockey by surprise when she slowed so quickly, can only imagine the margin if she was 100% fit
God knows all i remember is watching it thinking she has this comfortably and Nolan just stops dead , I nearly had a fkn fit Not sure in his interview if he was more disappointed in his ride or the fact she hurt her self in the run
@@marksudlow5083 He didn't know the great mare was injured. Every time she hit the lead in Australia, Nolan would relax and she'd keep going flat chat - this time she started easing because she was injured.
Breeding and bragging mainly. The prize money is relatively poor. Google says the Kings Stand paid £148,000 for the winner in 2020 which is around $266,000 Australian. The Everest pays over $6m for the winner. You get AUD$400,000 for running 14th. Admittedly that’s a unique format but even a Group 1 sprint like The Newmarket pays I think $750,000 (£416,000).
Europe needs a tab. The tab puts back into racing and creates better prize money, better racing. You will always race for peanuts if you let the bookies take all the money home.
Choisir wasn't supposed to win, and did. Black Caviar was supposed to walk it in, and almost didn't win. Takeover Target was one of the greatest rags to riches tales.
@@bgardiner3354 I get that, and I'm sure you are correct about it, , but all of them bar one are by northern hemisphere bred sires - so what is Australian? That's why I refer to horses from this region as Australasian. And that's not to say that they weren't, each of them, outstanding performances from outstanding sprinters!
Makes me laugh that the Euros mouth off about winning a few Cups, yet us Aussies, breed for speed and we owned the King Stand and the Golden Jubilee at these were all hit and run missions not spending months getting used to the weather like the Euros get to do. So when we send a sprinter or Sprinters over we normally win, Miss Andretti,vMagnus and Take Over Target nearly trifectard their year, BC even eased up and still won. Aussies do it better.
keith gould yep both went to Japan but only Scenic Blast races, finishing down the track in a Sprinters Stakes. People under-estimate the rigours of the trip to Japan. I might... be still a bit dark about what happened to Saintly there... but there’s a cluster. So many of our horses who have gone there have struggled afterward or broken down while there. After the Cox Plate in 1992 where Naturalism fell and injured a rib he went to Japan and ran second in the Japan Cup with a “bad foot injury.” “Freedman said he was never the same after that trip.” “We were a little too ambitious with him.” I wouldn’t like to speculate why. Nowadays it might be easier to win races in the UK than in Japan anyway. They space their races more in the UK because it suits the way they prepare their horses, which is in turn more suited to the race pace in European racing.
keith gould Scenic Blast was racing pre-Everest and pre-TJ Smith... the GSS made it financially attractive... if I had a horse good enough to campaign overseas I would want to... especially if they were good travelers. Nowadays it’s less likely of course unless there are breeding interests involved. I for one take my hat off to connections willing to run the risk and campaign our elite horses overseas. It’s important to the brand
Take over target what a bargain buy a horse for the battlers . Black caviar half fit still beat the best would love to have seen chataqua go boom there
Jimmy Blues Mate, I'm a huge Caviar fan but she didn't beat the best at Ascot. She beat a 25-1 shot and a very good horse who never won a race over 1200m. Moonlight Cloud needed further than 1200 to be at her best. Ideally 1400. If that race was 1250 Caviar gets beaten.
If black caviar was even 70 percent fit would have won by 10 obviously everyone was scared to take her on so she didn’t always meet the best fields . Just her high cruising speed was enough to break horses hearts.
Jimmy Blues the proximity of Soul to BC in that race is plenty enough to work out how much she performed below her best. There were half a dozen horses racing in Australia at the time who could have run to a 117 or better. Moonlight Cloud would go on to win 5G1’s and be awarded a Cartier HOTY award. Admittedly she was better at the miler end if the sprinter-miler category. But the GJ was a middling G2 quality race over 6F in Australia. I think much of that has to do with the fact that some of the better sprinters who were considering either the King Stand or the GJ likely chose the former to dodge BC. The BC that won her third Lightning Stakes at her next start would have lapped these. Which is hard to do in a straight race 👍
choisir won the kings stand stakes on the tuesday and then the trainer paul perry wanted to race choisir in the golden jubilee stakes on a four day back up basically because nobody had ever done it before. risk for reward I guess you could say!
Choisir putting Oasis Dream and Acclamation in their place. Top sprinter and sire.
Needs an update now for Nature Strip 😉🏇💨💨💨 💙❤️💛
Black Caviar, what a legend, one of the all time greats.
Not a great at all. Protected species. One win at five over 1400. Pathetic. Three or four lengths behind the best Vain
@@anneshaw9681 That's nonsense.
True. The most overrated horse I have seen race in Australia since the mid sixties. Only started once at 1400 as a five year old. Months before going to England I said this horse would struggle. Lengths behind Vain and Luskin Star and most of the above were better
Scenic Blast's was a freakish performance - the way he gathered them in from the back within a hundred yards, then stormed away.
Magnus, another Aussie horse, deserved to win a big one, but there was always a better one on the day
Missing Haradasun. But what an awesome bunch of horses Black Caviar the greatest but Takeover Target and Choiser we’re legends. Miss Andretti got touched up by Sacred Kingdom who was the best at the time and in the top 5 greatest sprinters ever.
ag fresh
Wasn't Haradasun trained by Aiden Obrien?
@@elgransenor1472 Yes for about 5 minutes, he did benefit from O'Briens lead horse strategy which is illegal in Australia.
@@adamgarvey5074 You mean to use a horse exclusively as the pacemaker for another designated one? Just like Bullet Train, which was later often used as the pacemaker for Frankel?
@@myfrobert exactly
Takeover target, what a legend! Always a fighter, travelled to Europe and Asia to race. Never afraid to lose and always gave his all.
Bit like Black Caviar. What a wimp. Protected species. Bet Takeover Target would have a laugh
Never afraid to lose. Wish there were more horses like Takeover Target and Vain these days
Great horses are not afraid to take on the near impossible and get beaten on occasions like Takeover Target. Crisp ,Vain etc. Protected species like Black Caviar with only one start as a five year old over 1400 go to the bottom of the list in my opinion
@@anneshaw9681 What about Winx? Never went overseas
@@rajahhindi3921 Winx took them all on over many distances within Australia. Would never call Winx a wimp like Black Caviar the protected species. Yes Wink and Frankel should have gone overseas.
Dramatic moment 👍👍
Great list but needs to be updated with Nature Strip.
nicely done, thank you. [No. 2] Did Black Caviar’s jockey almost lose the race by stopping riding just before the line?
Probably. He seemed to have misjudged the finishing line.
@SvendBosanvovski I pretty sure that was because he eased her down too early and then went again at the line. Lucky that mistake didn't end her career prematurely.
Black caviar pulled up lame after the race with some muscle tears, took the jockey by surprise when she slowed so quickly, can only imagine the margin if she was 100% fit
Best sprinters in the world
Not the best jockeys though apparently.... what on earth was he doing on black caviar??
God knows all i remember is watching it thinking she has this comfortably and Nolan just stops dead , I nearly had a fkn fit
Not sure in his interview if he was more disappointed in his ride or the fact she hurt her self in the run
Because you could tell listening to him talk he was peeved about something
Be good if they put the same effort into breeding stayers
@@marksudlow5083 He didn't know the great mare was injured. Every time she hit the lead in Australia, Nolan would relax and she'd keep going flat chat - this time she started easing because she was injured.
My dad Chas would be so proud x
So you think Prince of Whales stakes?????
Probably for the same reason that the brits don’t claim Makybe Diva
What about so you think, harada sun ?
Gaby Youssef
Both trained by Aiden O BRIEN.
So was Merchant Navy when he was over there. I think it’s only ones on the straight track.
@@natzblacker3573 cant remember merchant navy in Australia
@Ignatz Blacker vaguely remember him,but you know what its like show promise sell to overseas,where's he now?
Black Caviar won the Golden Jubilee ♥️
Dandy Man, a good sprinter but boy did he create a ton of decent juveniles.
Yeh i just watched him come 2nd to miss andretti,looked pretty speedy
Russe He was, his sons seem to go well on good and softish ground. Raw natural talent and full of speed. 5f specialist.
@@phobsdsr4326 i have heard of the dandy name in Australia as well
@@phobsdsr4326 nice,whats your opinion onbfranke overrated or deserving?i think he was great but the hypes a bit over the top about him?
1.CHOISIR “2003”-KING’S STAND STAKES
2.CHOISIR “2003”-GOLDEN JUBILEE STAKES
That’s few rest!
Is that Australian style?
Any jockey that gave Black Caviar an inch , she would always take a mile
Didn't realize there was so many aussie horses other there not only the winning ones,what sort of prize money is it there or is for breeding status?
Breeding and bragging mainly. The prize money is relatively poor. Google says the Kings Stand paid £148,000 for the winner in 2020 which is around $266,000 Australian. The Everest pays over $6m for the winner. You get AUD$400,000 for running 14th. Admittedly that’s a unique format but even a Group 1 sprint like The Newmarket pays I think $750,000 (£416,000).
Europe needs a tab. The tab puts back into racing and creates better prize money, better racing. You will always race for peanuts if you let the bookies take all the money home.
Choisir wasn't supposed to win, and did. Black Caviar was supposed to walk it in, and almost didn't win. Takeover Target was one of the greatest rags to riches tales.
Black caviar stopped running 50 meters before the race. Would’ve swamped those cats if the jockey didn’t pull the reigns
@@nicktonks9821 If you can find one make sure you read the vet's report of BC done immediately after the KS race..
what about haradasun?
Starcraft?
and So You Think?
Who.. by the way is the ONLY Australasian horse in history to have won 5 International G1s
Richard Mitchell I think this video was specifically Australian horses but he’d be near enough you’d think
@@bgardiner3354 I get that, and I'm sure you are correct about it, , but all of them bar one are by northern hemisphere bred sires - so what is Australian? That's why I refer to horses from this region as Australasian. And that's not to say that they weren't, each of them, outstanding performances from outstanding sprinters!
I think this her worst Timeform race and she still won. Is a pity the English didn't get to see Black caviar at her best.
Makes me laugh that the Euros mouth off about winning a few Cups, yet us Aussies, breed for speed and we owned the King Stand and the Golden Jubilee at these were all hit and run missions not spending months getting used to the weather like the Euros get to do. So when we send a sprinter or Sprinters over we normally win, Miss Andretti,vMagnus and Take Over Target nearly trifectard their year, BC even eased up and still won. Aussies do it better.
Scenic Blast just did not hold his form at all but for that 1 season goddamn he could sprint near unbearable for like 6 months 😂😂
Not entirely true... he bled and was sent to race in the states. Who knows what might have been had he not had that happen to him
B Gardiner nsanong
keith gould the GSS.... the trip to Japan ruined them... not the UK
keith gould yep both went to Japan but only Scenic Blast races, finishing down the track in a Sprinters Stakes. People under-estimate the rigours of the trip to Japan. I might... be still a bit dark about what happened to Saintly there... but there’s a cluster. So many of our horses who have gone there have struggled afterward or broken down while there. After the Cox Plate in 1992 where Naturalism fell and injured a rib he went to Japan and ran second in the Japan Cup with a “bad foot injury.” “Freedman said he was never the same after that trip.” “We were a little too ambitious with him.” I wouldn’t like to speculate why. Nowadays it might be easier to win races in the UK than in Japan anyway. They space their races more in the UK because it suits the way they prepare their horses, which is in turn more suited to the race pace in European racing.
keith gould Scenic Blast was racing pre-Everest and pre-TJ Smith... the GSS made it financially attractive... if I had a horse good enough to campaign overseas I would want to... especially if they were good travelers. Nowadays it’s less likely of course unless there are breeding interests involved. I for one take my hat off to connections willing to run the risk and campaign our elite horses overseas. It’s important to the brand
Merchant navy surely got beat. Put my house on the far horse.
Take over target what a bargain buy a horse for the battlers . Black caviar half fit still beat the best would love to have seen chataqua go boom there
Now that would have been special...Chautauqua at Royal Ascot!
and Lankan Rupee at his best
Jimmy Blues
Mate, I'm a huge Caviar fan but she didn't beat the best at Ascot.
She beat a 25-1 shot and a very good horse who never won a race over 1200m.
Moonlight Cloud needed further than 1200 to be at her best. Ideally 1400.
If that race was 1250 Caviar gets beaten.
If black caviar was even 70 percent fit would have won by 10 obviously everyone was scared to take her on so she didn’t always meet the best fields . Just her high cruising speed was enough to break horses hearts.
Jimmy Blues the proximity of Soul to BC in that race is plenty enough to work out how much she performed below her best. There were half a dozen horses racing in Australia at the time who could have run to a 117 or better. Moonlight Cloud would go on to win 5G1’s and be awarded a Cartier HOTY award. Admittedly she was better at the miler end if the sprinter-miler category. But the GJ was a middling G2 quality race over 6F in Australia. I think much of that has to do with the fact that some of the better sprinters who were considering either the King Stand or the GJ likely chose the former to dodge BC. The BC that won her third Lightning Stakes at her next start would have lapped these. Which is hard to do in a straight race 👍
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Drawyuhi
1.CHOISIR “2003”-KING’S STAND STAKES
2.CHOISIR “2003”-GOLDEN JUBILEE STAKES
That’s few rest!
Is that Australian style?
choisir won the kings stand stakes on the tuesday and then the trainer paul perry wanted to race choisir in the golden jubilee stakes on a four day back up basically because nobody had ever done it before. risk for reward I guess you could say!