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Taiwan is republic of china. Its already part of china and it will always be republic of china There is no reason for china to lanch an attack on their own people
I’m a former Taiwanese army corporal, served in what you described as “worst conditioned” frontline infantry unit(2008~2010), and I can confirm the lack of men power was real. Our post had an amazing amount of weapons manned by pathetically few men. From memory, there were 30 rifles, 10 22 caliber machine guns, 6 30 caliber machine guns, 2 50 caliber Browning M2, 2 Mk19 grenade launchers, 3 artillery pieces and tons of food and bottled water, manned by 15 soldiers, NCOs, and one lieutenant.
The career-orientated culture is also very real. TSMC and the semiconductor industry are both the best and the worst thing that could happen to Taiwan, as the entire country's industry and culture are warped due to how lucrative the semiconductor industry is. It actively discourages young men from entering other career paths, which includes military and other essential industries.
Ukrainian are under influence of racial superiority complex, they think they racially superior to Russian, that's why then Russian bullet hit them, it will bounce back due to their racial superiority rather than causing any harm, that's why whole Ukraine is pile of debris right now, you can't expect same stupidity from Taiwan too
@@MOJOJONO Do not count on it. Many of these idle hands are severely overeducated. Taiwan has an issue with too little employment for all the uni degrees they have, and far too few to do the lower jobs. This would mean again inflation for expensive uni papers.
Taiwan is facing a demographic CRISIS (South Korea's is apocalyptic too) with their 1.2 fertility rate which is compounded by about 20% of their men not registering for citizenship due to conscription fears (which is why they are getting rid of it to try to fool parents to register their sons back into their system) and it was a desperate move because conscription will NOT be enough. Current military ages have about 150,000 men per year while Taiwan is only having about 65,000 born per year. Taiwan delusionally thought it could get more soldiers in the longterm by trying to keep soldiers for 30 years as professional soldiers. Didn't work. Turns out westernization and feminism and emasculation destroys societies. Who woulda thought? Taiwan will go from 180,000 soldiers today and 2.3 million reserves to down to 100,000 or less soldiers and only 1 million old reservists in about 25 to 30 years time. In 50 years, it would be even worse, though Taiwan likely will have either turned into a dictatorship to reverse the trend or been conquered by then as Taiwan would basically have no defenders and be wide open. South Korea is facing an even worse cliff, with their 0.79 fertility rate that is totally apocalyptic. They will lose about 70% of their military age males in the next 25 years. Meanwhile North Korea is seeing this so they just launched efforts this month to force their unmarried women to get married and pump out babies (they even banned their biggest source of GDP, the remittances from China, by banning unmarried childless women from going to China to work, even though it will hurt their GDP, they are now laser focused on boosting fertility rate so they can take advantage of South Korea's demographic fall, i.e. if South Korea loses 70% of their military age males and North Korea can boost theirs by 50%, then a conventional war starts looking a lot rosier for Kim Jong Un).
A sort of "eight-nation alliance" will certainly happen and this would be just a repeat of the humiliation of the Boxer Rebellion. The mainland is tearing apart itself from within already. The only reason it does not seem like it is because the CCP tends to hide their decline to the typical outsider very well. To those who have an idea though, well the implosion is already happening and they are like the US now, buying time with their form of "printing money" and just prepping raw materials in case SHTF aka the Warlord Era happening all over again.
@@aerojetrocketdyners-2538 wtf are you smoking, singapore has a very skilled military, they fought off the entire maylay army and indonesian as well in skirmishes.
My sister teaches English online and I remember the story she told me about one of her Korean students who went through mandatory military service and that he just played online games all the time in the rear.
I worked with a couple young men who had recently completed their military conscription in Taiwan and they said the same- wake up at 6, sweep the floor, have breakfast, hang out and play Raid Legends for like 6 hours, eat lunch, run a little bit, shoot guns for like 20 minutes, and then return to playing video games. They said they listened to an officer present a PowerPoint about "military stuff" once per week for an hour or two.
@@whitezombie10 nr3 ?? Are u still counting Russian’s super inflated army as nr2 ?? 😂 Russian’s Army is a joke. They havent learned anything for 100 years. All they do is throw humans at the problems.
Taiwan military service used to be very tough. I’m from Singapore and in the 80s went to Taiwan for military exercise as a conscript. We rent facilities and land use in Taiwan but do not interact with ROC military. At the time their weaponry are outdated but their conscripts were training were a lot tougher, their facilities medieval and the food horrid. Most troops were still using M14, and we even passed a convoy of M42 AA tanks! Their infantry were not equipped with LMG, grenade launchers or LAW.
that was back when the ROC military is still heavily influenced by the late Chiang Kei Shek's military asperation and doctrine. But as Taiwan democratized and lean more into an independent country rather than unification and defeating the PRC, the strict military doctrines in the ROC were quickly thrown out, as ROK under the new administrations looked strictly to just a defensive war with heavy reliance on US.
@@Methyll there was also a degree of “giving up” as China greatly expanded its military capabilities from the 90s. In the 80s the Taiwanese still felt they could counter a PLA attack. But as the disparity grew, Taiwanese increasingly saw it as a lost cause and therefore saw military service a waste of time. This sentiment led to the government first saying they will scrap all conscription, and then keeping conscription but at a paltry 4 months.
@@therover65 The real problem is that westernization and feminism have destroyed Taiwan's fertility rate, which is one of the lowest in the world at 1.2, which means they will go from their current 150,000 military age males per year, to 65,000 military age males per year which is their current rate being born this year if they don't turn dictatorial and beat down feminism (highly unlikely). South Korea's rate is even worse, they spent $200 billion to try to raise their fertility rate (equivalent GDP to if US govt spent $3 trillion) and yet it actually FELL further from 0.81 to 0.79 now, which is beyond apocalyptic. Taiwan will lose about 58% of it's military age males in the next 25 years, but South Korea will lose 70%+. It's so bad that North Korea suddenly perked up this month and started a new program of punishments for unmarried childless women (they just started banning them from working in China despite those remittances being a huge part of N.Korean GDP) all to try to get them to birth more kids (if they boost their rate, they could increase their army by like 50% while South Korea shrinks 70% so then North Korea could even win a conventional invasion in a few decades). Point is, there is no need for a war now if China and North Korea can boost their fertility rates, then they can win likely without a fight in 25 to 35 years. China just woke up to it too, they went from 1 child to 2 child to unlimited child policy and now they've started rolling out test programs to force unmarried spinsters to get married. One province was trying to force spinsters to marry rural farmers but the feminist backlash caused them to relent, and still too many chinese simps who think there isn't a problem yet or others who think mass importing brides from southeast asia is the solution (the problem with that is there aren't 300 million females for them to import or even take via conquest, people talk about the 50 million lack of females but don't realize it's really a 300 million gap problem because of feminism in China similar to S.Korea/Taiwan means another 250 million females will either produce 0 or at most 1 kid which is not enough unless they take "extreme" measures that will make feminists screech). To be fair, much of the West has this problem too. The USA thinks immigration will solve it's fertility issues too but foreign-born naturalized citizens are 4x less likely to serve in the army which is actually a big part of why the US is failing to hit it's recruitment numbers aside from too many being obese and going woke discouraging others. The problem is even worse for Europe. Some hilarious leftists have tried to say Japan and South Korea can solve their demographic problems by mass importing third world immigrants which is so hilariously stupid but they have to suggest it rather than admit feminism is causing the downfall of Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan. It's so idiotic though, it's not like South Korea can import 10 million Somalians to solve it's demographic crisis and then expect those Somalians to fight and die fighting North Koreans. They would just flee elsewhere or return home instead. Besides at that point it wouldn't even be South Korea anymore, it'd be New Somalia and might become an ally of the commies rather than fight them.
because the dpp is weak as shit and a us vassal, they want the daddy usa to fight for them(no they will be used as meat shields by american) when the kmt was in power they still fought in burma and laos in opium wars on the gruond.
@@therover65 explain why israel still has a military, and why north korea still has a military despite us threats, or how cuba still has a military well trained
@@waynzignordics Mainland will never invade. It is not profitable. They can just starve that small island without using expensive military operations. Taiwan is lost cause even before mentioning a war against the Mainland
Good to see your channel blowing up dude! I remember being one of your first followers who came over from Instagram. Way to make this your full time job!
Hey man, great video overall! Can you make a video about the possiblility of a Greco-Turkish war? You know, Greece is purchasing a lot of equipment and the tensions rise time to time.
I am an ex Taiwanese soldiers, we called Taiwanese solider - Strawberry solider, because they are so weak like strawberry, most solider can not do exercise if Temperature is over 30 degree, most people will surrender when Chinese solider approaching. Taiwanese solider is a joke, that is why most of us move to oversea, most people has second passport to run in case of war.
I wonder, do taiwanese recruits even undergo shock training? like, how do they cope when a bomb or artillery shell goes off? can they even handle the expected bombardment by the mainland or would the all flee and surrender in their trenches?
It is very difficult for me to find a second country like Ukraine. The average country will not sacrifice itself to help the United States weaken its enemies.
Ukrainian are under influence of racial superiority complex, they think they racially superior to Russian, that's why then Russian bullet hit them, it will bounce back due to their racial superiority rather than causing any harm, that's why whole Ukraine is pile of debris right now
Yees, Ukrainian population is sacrificing their lives for the interest of the United States and not because they were invaded and want to protect their country and its sovereignty. Excellent analysis
Does the Taiwanese wanna be part of Communist China clearly not (look at what happen to Hong Kong). If Xi attack Taiwan wether it is a blitzkrieg whether it is the end of Xi. China needs Taiwanese chipset and Western money (be sure that the american and european debt own by China will be dissolved in case of a war), we can leave without new phone but communist China will not last with skyrocketing unemployment.
Currently Taiwanese wealth is dependent on a productive workforce. Wealth can arm their military. Militaries are a deficit, and the only indirect positive they have is that they provide stability to keep wealth generating, but there comes a point of diminishing returns. The Taiwanese method of conscription and training needs to be reformed to keep up with modern expectations, but Taiwan's position on manpower of the professional army is not necessarily lacking for its needs. Just needs reform.
History Legends I love the fact that you're a very fact based channel based on neutral analysis and factual information, and yet your personality and humor adds a lot to your content and gives a lot of joy to me and other viewers. Thank you for that!!
"pro-democracy protest in HK". Yeah because it's so democratic to vandalize and destroy your own city when less than 20% of HK support independence. Ironic.
Does not really matter. The US and US tax payers are always ready to foot the bill lol.. Plus if China invades Japan will get involved as well. So 3 vs 1.
Does China even really need to land troops on Taiwan? Taiwan is heavily dependent on food imports and if China can do it then a Blockade could do much more damage than a military invasion ever could.
As to why US might not want to sell the most modern stuff to Taiwan, you got to remember Taiwan is not 100% for independence and confrontation with China. There is sizeable part of society that is pro-unification with China. So US might not want to sell most modern military tech to country in which there are people wanting to unite with China and might actually unite with China in fear of war in which the US tech would end up in Chinese hands. Also it's worth to look up Taiwan's microchip industry like TSMC. China's been buying out all the top engineers from TSMS to relocate to mainland China and work on Chinese chip industry.
and in retaliation the US has refused to buy their products, closing a sizable market that could have aided Taiwan's economic growth, increasing their reliance on international support, support that would no doubt have conditions
Supply and demand. We're embargoing chip sales to China, creating a demand in the free market to make chips in China, creating a labor shortage of experienced engineers in that field, pushing up wages, which attracts engineers from TSMC and elsewhere. Capitalism at work. I don't understand why our politicians choose to fight capitalism itself, they're going to lose. China smartly aligns itself with capitalism, while we're trying to be the new Soviet Union.
@@LuoSon312_G8 it’s a lose lose for Taiwan then, China can just stop selling Taiwan the rare earths it takes to manufacture the chips and well as other sanctions on the island. A lot of the older Taiwanese identify as Chinese ethnically especially if they are descended from the KMT. Some of these people go to China is not simply just an economic choice.
There is a large amount of the population that wants to China to unify with it. They want to be China, and control what the ROC controlled in China before they were exiled.
"As to why the US might not want to sell the most modern stuff...." much of which are obsolete equipment. and your analysis is right, the US will at least get SOME money for selling obsolete equipment or old stock. That has been on their mind(the US) all along.
I'm from Singapore and 4 months of basic training is more like a meet and greet session to get to know some friends and maybe get some help in job hunting in the future
Four months of basic? It's was more like two in US and then there was job-specific individual training for another two. But that was half a century ago, dunno about now.
You should look up how many pilots Taiwan is training as well. They are getting to the point that there are more aircrafts than pilots, if not already there.
Why would you want to become a target on behalf of the profit margins of the US military industrial complex? Barring a forced re-annexation of Taiwan by the use of force by China, what country is ever going to invade Taiwan and risk a confrontation with China.
It is very difficult for me to find a second country like Ukraine. The average country will not sacrifice itself to help the United States weaken its enemies.
Hong Kong kind of makes that hard, if China had given Hong Kong autonomous status for governing itself instead of taking over there might be a path. If China had treated Hong Kong better soft power might have allowed integration in the future.
you got really cringe after 16 minutes. Beijing had nothing to do with repressing the protests in HK, they waited until they ended & then forced through Article 23 which is part of the 1C2S agreement those guys training with air soft rifles isn't gonna do anything, you were right at the start, once PLA has a beachhead it's ggwp
I was 1st Bn, 4th Inf, 3rd ID, Germany, at the end of Veitnam. The "Volunter Army" model came along about 1974, I think, and I was a volunteer. The vets complained the model was a disaster, because the volunteers were mostly poverty-level losers who couldn't make it on the outside. They said the draft grapped a lot of high-quality people from upper classes. You could see they were right -- most volunteers were drug addicts.
China at it's weakest just after the end of the civil war in 1949 almost pushed the combined UN force of the US, UK, and France off the Korean peninsula by itself the only reason they stopped was because they didn't have nukes to respond to the US. Taiwan resistance will be measured in hours,............. not months, not weeks, nor days............just hours. Everyone in the know is well aware of this fact. The only reason China has not done it is because they still believe Taiwan will just give up, and they won't have to waist resources, and lives invading it. If that status quo changes they will invade it, no question.
AI don't grow on trees. You need complete supply chains. Taiwan has TSMC, but little else either hardware or software side. Everything from circuit boards to copper wire tend to be sourced from mainland China.
Taiwan has 26 million ppl. It's about the same as Ukraine minus its own Russia supporting territories. And its economy at least 8 times that of Ukraine. And it's an island 200km away from border of China. If they can't defend their own country, it's their own fault. They don't have anyone else to blame.
Being poor is not a weakness when it comes to war. It is, in fact, a strength. Ukranian lives are cheaper. Poor people with little to lose and even less to live for make for willing canon fodder. Taiwan's problem is it's too rich.
@@georgedang449 I think you might be correct. Even with Russia it looks like the Chechens and people from rural areas are much more keen to go to Ukraine and get paid. Meanwhile, the elites/IT professionals/UA-camrs from St Petersberg and Moscow are fleeing the country.
@@joemammon6149 (1) they are not one people technically. (2) they live in very different societies in which Taiwan definitely has the better one. The ChiComs be8ng humiliated would be the best outcome in any conflict with the Taiwanese retaining their de-facto independence.
Heard that they are doing a followup on that... They gonna make a video about the draft and how one of the 2 Emma's mother died in war defending other country "freedom and democracy"
At the end of the day, I think that the biggest factor for wether or not China takes over Taiwan if the invasion occurs, is wether the US interferes or not.
China will not set foot on Taiwanese Islands unless the US provokes them into it. Neither does China see this as viable, China sees it as a last resort if every other effort is exhausted to reclaim their rightful sovereignty, there are other options for China to reunify with Taiwan as well, I mean look at how China regained Hong Kong, it wasn't via war or military invasion, it was simply purging the old relics or legacy of British colonialism in Hong Kong, such as getting rid of rubbish liberal studies in education which was one of the root causes of why the youth in 2019 HK were so brainwashed. It was through rubbish whitewashed history textbooks, other rubbish idiologies introduced with liberal studies. Its the exact same thing in Taiwan as well. Whitewashing of history, going as far as trying to warp the youths minds about their own identity & where they came from. The DPP in Taiwan, is less democratic than people think. You go to Taiwan & ask the local people there, a lot of them do NOT like Tsai Ing Wen & her party, all they want is peace, better living standards, but the DPP doesn't care about the people in Taiwan, so this idea of Taiwan as a democracy, freedom, is a smokescreen, many local Taiwanese even say this as well. Some do want to actually have reunification with China, then there are those who do not. Those who do, cannot be dismissed either, its the exact same thing that happened in Hong Kong, everyone outside HK completely ignored the other side of the argument, the people who supported HK police & HK government & China, those voices were all ignored by all western rubbish msm, now for Twiwan, its the same thing, those people who do want reunification & do identify with China's ambitions & development do NOT get heard on any rubbish biased western msm. Only Tsai Ing Wen & her clique get their voices heard in west, this is extremely dangerous, because Taiwan is NOT like Ukraine, or Iraq, or Libya, Taiwan is China's sovereign territory, this DPP has always had intentions for full out independence which is unnacceptable to China & the Chinese people also do NOT accept this, even the Taiwanese people don't want to provoke this . But the US, the Taiwanese DPP & their allies keep pushing for this to come to fruition, despite what they talk & claim that they do NOT wish to incite, encourqge any kind of independence of Taiwan from China, but their actions speak for themselves, then why does the US, sell weapons to Taiwan, why do certain European countries continue to antagonise China over Taiwan issue? It seems that the US, EU have a double standard on their Taiwan policy. Imagine for example if China, or Russia were to incite, encourage full out independence of certain regions in the states or in UK, how would either governments of those countries react to that. Yet i find it bizarre that western pundits, act surprised whenever they see a knee jerk reaction from China whenever these types of things happen, its strange for me to see others react like that, like as if they didn't expect this to happen. Its crazy, dangerous, reckless & based on pure ignorance of Taiwans history. Who was it that supported the Nationalists aka KMT, it was America who supported them against Mao & the communists. Well, the Maoists, took over China 🇨🇳, & is the recognised entity that represents the Chinese people, today Taiwan is largely seen as the American attack dog to be used against China, we see this with TSMC, with US trying to prevent this company being in the hands of China, we all know the future markets now is microchips. Whoever controls TSMC has a handle on future development for AI tech, AI driven vehicles. It just so happens that the US, doesn't want China getting their hands on this Tech before the US does, what does this remind of???? This is akin to what happened with Japan in their economic bubble in the 199p's or late '80's, with US, swooping in, & taking over their technology to crush their economic competitors in Japan, its the exact same thing happening with China. And the 🇺🇸 can only manipulate their stock market to a point until, it all comes crashing down on themselves. Their idiotic policies, throughout the years, have overstretched their own military, have devastated their own domestic economy, its not how, if, but WHEN it will come crashing down on them. 🇺🇸 Is playing with fire 🔥 here. And they're trying to fight fire 🔥 with 🔥
@@exu7325 Not sure if we mean the same thing, but if by invasion you mean, takeover by military force, then, I would have to disagree, as you can see from my earlier post.
As we have seen in Ukraine Manpower is vital to keep the defence or attack going and to gain the momentum. Technology and aircraft alone don't win wars, especially if you ain't got anyone to hold the trenches and stop the enemy from just rolling onto your airfields, artillery positions and even your seat of power building.
A battle for taiwan would likely be decided at sea and in the air, not on the ground. If China can gain air and naval control around taiwan, and land an army, and supply and reinforce it, the issue would likely be decided. 23 million taiwanese against a billion Chinese. .
Wow I was looking for a comment like this and I think you might be the only person with a brain here. Missiles are going to be a lot more important here due to Taiwan being an island over almost any other war. You can just look at the battle of Okinawa or the Falklands islands and see that the a lot of if not the majority of casualties came from ships being hit. If china isn’t able to gain air superiority, then there’s no way they’ll be able to take over the island. If china is able to land troops, it doesn’t matter how many people the defenders have. There’s no way the US will be able to deliver supplies without getting involved in an armed conflict with China.
True but China will probably be fighting US, Japanese, Taiwanese and Australian navies and airforces so easier said than done. China would need hundreds of ships, aircraft and tens of thousands of missiles.
@@MRrealmadridRaul theres pretty much no way the mainland can't gain air superiority over taiwan. The sheer fact that china has a sizeable 5th generation fighter fleet while taiwan doesn't pretty much ensures that.
Well at least they have mandatory service. Meanwhile Here in my country Students got so LAX as they opposed Reserve Officers Training Course 6 mons Basic and another 6 mons specialization. For College Students hopefully the Mandatory ROTC will be implemented.
The answer is necessity. We don't have an archrival that needs us to implement mandatory military service. The country needed to improve the economy than the defense. Improving defense first without the economy is putting the cart before the horse. The manpower of the country is enough to form a volunteer only military. We need more money than bodies.
@@linming5610 it's ROTC not Mandatory Service, ROTC is pretty much just a Disciple Team Building Activity done in college students. That is why I advocate for it being implemented they are not bodies to be thrown to war unless at absolute necessity. Economy Wise we are F I know, Duterte's Term was good and all but the Pandemic came and F us up again not to mention the Oil shortage the world is Suffering today further F'ng our economy hopefully in the next 10-15 years all the infrastructure being built will be finished and be utilized for our the betterment of our economy.
How unprepared and vunerable Taiwan really is, is very scary! I think the young generation who want to be considered as Taiwanese only and demand offical independence from the PRC, need to wake up and realise that the threat is very real and they need to be ready!
Like the Russian army is nr2 in the world, don't get me started. But Taiwan does not stand alone, they are backed up by the rest of the sane world, just like Ukraine.
I think they're relying on China being as good as Russia, but tbh China has a lot more manpower, and a lot more money to throw at good equipment. Plus they seem to be following the more Western doctrine and not the Soviet style one like Russia.
@@orangeairsoft7292 Plus Chinese troops are way way waaaaay more motivated to take over Taiwan than even the most passionate Putin supporter in the Russian army was to engage in Ukraine. China's population has had it drilled into their heads unquestionably for the past 70 years that Taiwan is indisputably a province of China that must be reunited.
Ukraine, if smart enough, should not take sides. Rather, there should be benefits from both Europe and Russia in the middle. The political movement in 2014 completely changed the fate of Ukraine, leaving Ukraine no chance to choose. The division of the country, including the war, was the aftermath of the color revolution. so sad
What do you expect from the most corrupted gov of Europe and its poorest country? They were so much better positioned than practically everyone else except Eastern Germany when the Eastern Bloc collapsed. Something is terribly wrong with its people. Just like something is terribly wrong with the Chinese people that they actually let Cultural Revolution happened to them. If they don't recognize it and take actions to remedy for it. I don't have any sympathy or respect for them.
They did. And then that ended in 2014. Could’ve ended with Minsk II. But, when you have no sovereignty you don’t decide your fate. When a government comes to power via coups, civil wars, etc., whomever controls the faction in power. They control your sovereignty. Couldn’t thank Ukraine enough for sacrificing themselves for us. So sweet, Europeans always favored that “assisted suicide” shit. Pitiful, but I’ll take it lmao
Here is something else to consider: in Switzerland, every soldier can keep their gun at home and most do. In fact one can keep whole arsenals in their basement. In case of war, the invader will get attacked at all times by an armed populace. They can only temporarily conquer but not occupy. Like Afghanistan
@@litesp Hahaha you must be working for CCP. Thousands of people would be incarcerated, many quietly executed. As evil as the US empire can be, it is still morally superior to communist China.
@@kanestalin7246 They can do that, just like US bombed Vietnam and Afghanistan. But they can't hold territory. Eventually the invader will lose against an armed populace.
What do you think about the Philippines military capabilities? The Philippines army has already had guerilla war experience from it's years long insurgency problem. Does it means it has a capability to counter an invasion from a foreign country like China? Would be glad if you make a review and video about it.
With regards to combat experience in fighting ISIS extremists and communist insurgents the Philippines already has 50 years of extensive experience up to battalion level most especially in jungle warfare. But they have very few modern heavy equipment (aircraft, tanks, artillery etc) to fight a modern army. Guerilla warfare would be the end result if a foreign army invades.
Filipinos were also effective fighters against the regular US army and marines in the Independence war from 1899-1902. This lead to the sad death of around 500,000 Filipino civilians. It is always the civilians who bear the brunt of the pain brought by warfare and a few who profit from it.
From what we see in Ukraine, I´m not entirely convinced that Taiwan would survive the protection by these brave and idealistic young men. In any case they could only drive up the body count of the attackers. What a waste for both sides...
Can you f'in blame them for not wanting to go Infantry ? You deal with SO MUCH MORE bullshit than a POG , yet you get paid EXACTLY THE SAME and you don't learn ANY skill that's transferable to the civilian world ! Don't come at me with that "what about skills like Leadership?!" crap either. Putting "leadership" on your resume doesn't mean a thing to employers. (I speak from experience here btw. Had to use part of my GI bill to learn a civi skill because I was too full of testosterone to enlist in something that would serve me later in life and wanted to pewpewpew instead). Source : 2 years Belgian Army infantry 4 years US Army Armor Crewman (yes, I was dumb enough to choose a combat MOS twice lol)
I think the solution is what Taiwanese voters just communicated in the last election. Restore the status quo relations vis a vis China. Both sides of the Taiwan Strait were doing fine until some idiots got into the TW government. This talk of independence is a non-starter.
Taiwan needs to do the following: 1. Have a 2nd amendment/strong gun culture and follow the Swiss in all men must have guns and equipment ready in their home. 2. Have a conscript training system comparable to South Korea, Israel, and Switzerland. 3. Be like the Swiss in their prior years with defense systems around the country and always ready for war. 4. Have a realistic strategy to counter China. The current president strategy if a great deal example. 5. “The wise warrior avoids the battle.” - Sun Tzu (Have peaceful relations with China and stop always following US foreign policy. Avoid any conflict, but be ready to give China hell if you have to go to war.)
How naive you are, the second largest party in taiwan are pro mainland. It will just make the job easier for the mainland because of a possible insurrection.
We mustn't exclude the rather progressive & pacifist mainstream media as a factor of issues with manpower, this has caused less of a nationalistic ideology to be seen amongst the Taiwanese people, and funnily enough the same could be said for America, which also has a military that is declining faster than initially anticipated.
It is a reaction to the old KMT regime which was super nationalistic and militaristic. My mom had rifle training in high school back in the day, and air raid drills at school. If the DPP (President Tsai's party) started trying to be nationalistic and militaristic that's like defeating the whole point of electing them. The DPP is supposed to be progressive and Western.
I don't think it's possible for Taiwan to be ready even of they mobilized the toddlers and the grannies. They have 60 times smaller population. I don't see how it's ever going to work
I've been saying this since the war in Ukraine started. Taiwan doesn't take the threat seriously. Four months is simply pathetic for a conscript system. Absolute minimum is a year. But, I prefer Korea's 2-year system. That's a country that takes its threats seriously.
Ok, this private military training sounds great and all if you are trying to form light infantry. Trouble is, light infantry doesn:t do very well against artillery and armoured formations.
Taiwan is rich unlike ukraine, that is the very big difference and a great disadvantage in terms of conflict. The more poorer people you have the more manpower is willing to join an army, because they have nothing to lose and have no choice. Lack of manpower is also a problem in the US because there are more better opportunity elsewhere.
And the people will generally be physically tougher. Someone who, at age 18-20 (or older, if they are reservists being called up), who makes a living as a farmer, factory worker, construction labourer, etc. is going to simply be more physically capable than someone who spends excessively long hours studying and playing video games, as young men tend to do in Taiwan, and whose jobs, if they have any, are computer or service jobs with very little physical exertion. So, not only is there a small manpower pool, but the contents of that pool are mostly going to be inherently unfit for physically demanding and dangerous activities.
also unlike ukraine, taiwan has no NATO to fall back on to train up and re-equip additional troops away from attack. Once the shooting starts what taiwan has is all it has.
I think they are even more educated than the US. Being college educated is the norm there and once you become college educated nobody in their right mind would join the military since the pay is low and you have everything to lose. TBH, surrendering to PRC might be more practical since you are actually more valuable to China with your skills and the fact you can already speak the language.
This is all such a tragedy. Taiwan is part of China and China already had a plan of peaceful unification with the mainland, much like how they did in Hong Kong. In fact, most taiwanese people do see themselves as chinese and want to unify. But unfortunately the US has been funding separatists and is now trying to start a new proxy war, using Taiwan as cannon fodder
People seem to believe that removing conscription for a volunteer force is overwhelming superior; it is not. Volunteer soldiers join for many reasons, money, patriotism, benefits, duty ect. That means that many volunteer soldiers can turn tail and run or have low discipline just as conscripts, the Ukrainians have conscripts and some of them have performed good, conscripts just means you MUST be part of the military if they ever need it, and the same issues that effect the volunteer forces are found in the conscripts. The main difference is this, one is a whole time STANDING army while the other takes time to gather and retrain In the case of a war, like in the case of Russia.
Generally I thought conscription was to make sure the population all has some basic training so in the case of a draft they’re not starting from scratch.
@@randomclick2826 That too. But there are several kinds of conscripts, Russian conscription means all MEN have to do service unless they have a legit reason, while African conscription just means “here is a gun and some ammo, go fight” ; Conscription is a 2 year contract in Russia and after it you are released. The men who have volunteered were all conscripts and are doing retraining to keep their skills sharp, it is useless to send untrained men into combat.
The private training is only good for tactics and perhaps the weight of the gun, but there is no recoil, theh use airsoft which is laughable... Its just a way for these airsoft suppliers and roleplayers to capitalise on the threat for profits
Taiwanese Dollars : destroyed. Korean Won: destroyed. Japanese Yen: Destroyed. Australian dollars: destroyed. Other Asian Currencies: no problem at all. No need to talk on the internet. The market is mansplaning all of you who think the US can protect a country from China or Russia. As it mansplained Truss back to where she belongs: her kitchen.
Yikes!! I did not know about how poorly trained and maintained the Taiwanese military really is Can we expect a similar vide about the PLA? There aren't that many good videos about them
8:10 in India, new recruits get paid 2400 USD aftet taxes with a 70m² apartment when they start in PPP and lieutenants get around 12000-18000 USD (PPP) after taxes with a bungalow and a servant's room
You sure about that? I just looked up several different resources that said Lieutenants make about $640 USD per month, not $12,000 USD per month. Quite a difference there. If what you said was true, every non-millionaire in India would be signing up for the military and the military budget would completely bankrupt the country.
Volunteer military only works better if you have incentives to join and a culture that appreciates military service. If those two things are missing, who the hell would willingly join? Also avoid consistently treating your volunteers poorly. Something as simple as improving the food and living conditions can raise morale and willingness to serve immensely.
Who does really? 🤣😂😂 No one has killed and repressed Chinese people more than the ccp! (see cultural revoltion, Great Leap Forward, Tiananmen Square, One Child Policy, Xinjiang Genocide etc etc etc etc etc.
China will bombard and reduce Taiwan for months before a landing of ground troops. They saw Russia’s mistake of allowing Ukraine’s Air Force to survive and won’t let Taiwan’s Air Force survive. Then drones and and cruise missiles will hit barracks, fuel depots, bridges, internet cables, substations, etc. Taiwanese armored vehicles are obsolete compared to Chinese in both quality and numbers. Resupply of Taiwan will be difficult if not impossible
yes and there will be no way for the west to resupply taiwan with new weapons. Nobody will dare run the mainland blockade much less engage in a full scale naval war to break it.
Taiwan should really be enacting a right to bare arms in its country. Encouraging Taiwanese militias and paramilitary forces to be created and rise up. Encourage Taiwanese nationalism and right to independence. Giving everyone old enough a firearm and simple training of how to use them. Just some ideas so they won't fall quietly.
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Taiwan is republic of china. Its already part of china and it will always be republic of china
There is no reason for china to lanch an attack on their own people
@AileDiablo wow. That story is incredible. I am actaully amazed
Man you are too radical. Chill out.
I’m a former Taiwanese army corporal, served in what you described as “worst conditioned” frontline infantry unit(2008~2010), and I can confirm the lack of men power was real. Our post had an amazing amount of weapons manned by pathetically few men. From memory, there were 30 rifles, 10 22 caliber machine guns, 6 30 caliber machine guns, 2 50 caliber Browning M2, 2 Mk19 grenade launchers, 3 artillery pieces and tons of food and bottled water, manned by 15 soldiers, NCOs, and one lieutenant.
💀damn overkill
That’s enough to arm an African militia 😂
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Taiwan should have civilian ownership of firearms. All these excess weapons should be sold to civilians who want to take up arms.
@@leileijoker8465 i could see Chinese interference with that happened
@CKS1949 That's because Taiwan has a strict gun control. There's benefits and drawbacks to this.
The career-orientated culture is also very real. TSMC and the semiconductor industry are both the best and the worst thing that could happen to Taiwan, as the entire country's industry and culture are warped due to how lucrative the semiconductor industry is. It actively discourages young men from entering other career paths, which includes military and other essential industries.
Ukrainian are under influence of racial superiority complex, they think they racially superior to Russian, that's why then Russian bullet hit them, it will bounce back due to their racial superiority rather than causing any harm, that's why whole Ukraine is pile of debris right now, you can't expect same stupidity from Taiwan too
Don't worry that will not be a problem if the US manages to steal it from Taiwan!
Fortunately, with a global recession/depression in the works, lots of idle hands will be available. /s
Most young people including Taiwanese are attracted to high-paying job period, that incl. working for TSMC and similar industries.
@@MOJOJONO Do not count on it.
Many of these idle hands are severely overeducated. Taiwan has an issue with too little employment for all the uni degrees they have, and far too few to do the lower jobs. This would mean again inflation for expensive uni papers.
Taiwain seems to have successfuly merged the Cons of volunteer and conscription Militarys while avoiding the Pros of both.
Im kinda impressed :D
They managed to shit the bed, before the mainland Chinese could decide which pair of glasses to put on for the war in order not to disappoint the CCP.
Taiwan is facing a demographic CRISIS (South Korea's is apocalyptic too) with their 1.2 fertility rate which is compounded by about 20% of their men not registering for citizenship due to conscription fears (which is why they are getting rid of it to try to fool parents to register their sons back into their system) and it was a desperate move because conscription will NOT be enough. Current military ages have about 150,000 men per year while Taiwan is only having about 65,000 born per year. Taiwan delusionally thought it could get more soldiers in the longterm by trying to keep soldiers for 30 years as professional soldiers. Didn't work. Turns out westernization and feminism and emasculation destroys societies. Who woulda thought? Taiwan will go from 180,000 soldiers today and 2.3 million reserves to down to 100,000 or less soldiers and only 1 million old reservists in about 25 to 30 years time. In 50 years, it would be even worse, though Taiwan likely will have either turned into a dictatorship to reverse the trend or been conquered by then as Taiwan would basically have no defenders and be wide open.
South Korea is facing an even worse cliff, with their 0.79 fertility rate that is totally apocalyptic. They will lose about 70% of their military age males in the next 25 years. Meanwhile North Korea is seeing this so they just launched efforts this month to force their unmarried women to get married and pump out babies (they even banned their biggest source of GDP, the remittances from China, by banning unmarried childless women from going to China to work, even though it will hurt their GDP, they are now laser focused on boosting fertility rate so they can take advantage of South Korea's demographic fall, i.e. if South Korea loses 70% of their military age males and North Korea can boost theirs by 50%, then a conventional war starts looking a lot rosier for Kim Jong Un).
@@TexanIndependence most of the west keeps talking about china demographic collapse but the collapse in the west is far worse
@@TexanIndependence This is peak arm chair general right here
Taiwanese defense policy summed up: "Hope the US intervenes". That's it.
They will. Japan too
Most countries in the region basically rely on that. Even Singapore and Japan.
A sort of "eight-nation alliance" will certainly happen and this would be just a repeat of the humiliation of the Boxer Rebellion. The mainland is tearing apart itself from within already. The only reason it does not seem like it is because the CCP tends to hide their decline to the typical outsider very well. To those who have an idea though, well the implosion is already happening and they are like the US now, buying time with their form of "printing money" and just prepping raw materials in case SHTF aka the Warlord Era happening all over again.
Of course US will intervenes. top arms trade dealer in the world.
@@aerojetrocketdyners-2538 wtf are you smoking, singapore has a very skilled military, they fought off the entire maylay army and indonesian as well in skirmishes.
I liked it when the Taiwan Minister of Defense said, "It's Taiwan time!" Truly one of the nationalistic moments of all time.
I laughed when they said they could stand up to ASEAN Militarily 😂
My favorite part was when he said "Oh yeah, it's Taiwan time" and he Taiwan'd all over them.
funny thing is that taiwan means peace in my language.
Ahhaaha yeah Taiwan MoD deserves a sequel.
I loved when he said "There's a tempest in me!!" and then he farted and kissed Sauron on the lips
My sister teaches English online and I remember the story she told me about one of her Korean students who went through mandatory military service and that he just played online games all the time in the rear.
I worked with a couple young men who had recently completed their military conscription in Taiwan and they said the same- wake up at 6, sweep the floor, have breakfast, hang out and play Raid Legends for like 6 hours, eat lunch, run a little bit, shoot guns for like 20 minutes, and then return to playing video games. They said they listened to an officer present a PowerPoint about "military stuff" once per week for an hour or two.
Wonderful
@@DavidGravesExists well, Taiwan is definitely ready to resist to an invasion of the 3rd best army of the world
@@whitezombie10 Here's the thing, the Taiwanese themselves (despite what the western media tells you) don't actually believe China is going to invade.
@@whitezombie10 nr3 ?? Are u still counting Russian’s super inflated army as nr2 ?? 😂
Russian’s Army is a joke. They havent learned anything for 100 years. All they do is throw humans at the problems.
Taiwan military service used to be very tough. I’m from Singapore and in the 80s went to Taiwan for military exercise as a conscript. We rent facilities and land use in Taiwan but do not interact with ROC military. At the time their weaponry are outdated but their conscripts were training were a lot tougher, their facilities medieval and the food horrid. Most troops were still using M14, and we even passed a convoy of M42 AA tanks! Their infantry were not equipped with LMG, grenade launchers or LAW.
that was back when the ROC military is still heavily influenced by the late Chiang Kei Shek's military asperation and doctrine. But as Taiwan democratized and lean more into an independent country rather than unification and defeating the PRC, the strict military doctrines in the ROC were quickly thrown out, as ROK under the new administrations looked strictly to just a defensive war with heavy reliance on US.
@@Methyll there was also a degree of “giving up” as China greatly expanded its military capabilities from the 90s. In the 80s the Taiwanese still felt they could counter a PLA attack. But as the disparity grew, Taiwanese increasingly saw it as a lost cause and therefore saw military service a waste of time. This sentiment led to the government first saying they will scrap all conscription, and then keeping conscription but at a paltry 4 months.
@@therover65 The real problem is that westernization and feminism have destroyed Taiwan's fertility rate, which is one of the lowest in the world at 1.2, which means they will go from their current 150,000 military age males per year, to 65,000 military age males per year which is their current rate being born this year if they don't turn dictatorial and beat down feminism (highly unlikely). South Korea's rate is even worse, they spent $200 billion to try to raise their fertility rate (equivalent GDP to if US govt spent $3 trillion) and yet it actually FELL further from 0.81 to 0.79 now, which is beyond apocalyptic. Taiwan will lose about 58% of it's military age males in the next 25 years, but South Korea will lose 70%+. It's so bad that North Korea suddenly perked up this month and started a new program of punishments for unmarried childless women (they just started banning them from working in China despite those remittances being a huge part of N.Korean GDP) all to try to get them to birth more kids (if they boost their rate, they could increase their army by like 50% while South Korea shrinks 70% so then North Korea could even win a conventional invasion in a few decades).
Point is, there is no need for a war now if China and North Korea can boost their fertility rates, then they can win likely without a fight in 25 to 35 years. China just woke up to it too, they went from 1 child to 2 child to unlimited child policy and now they've started rolling out test programs to force unmarried spinsters to get married. One province was trying to force spinsters to marry rural farmers but the feminist backlash caused them to relent, and still too many chinese simps who think there isn't a problem yet or others who think mass importing brides from southeast asia is the solution (the problem with that is there aren't 300 million females for them to import or even take via conquest, people talk about the 50 million lack of females but don't realize it's really a 300 million gap problem because of feminism in China similar to S.Korea/Taiwan means another 250 million females will either produce 0 or at most 1 kid which is not enough unless they take "extreme" measures that will make feminists screech).
To be fair, much of the West has this problem too. The USA thinks immigration will solve it's fertility issues too but foreign-born naturalized citizens are 4x less likely to serve in the army which is actually a big part of why the US is failing to hit it's recruitment numbers aside from too many being obese and going woke discouraging others. The problem is even worse for Europe. Some hilarious leftists have tried to say Japan and South Korea can solve their demographic problems by mass importing third world immigrants which is so hilariously stupid but they have to suggest it rather than admit feminism is causing the downfall of Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan. It's so idiotic though, it's not like South Korea can import 10 million Somalians to solve it's demographic crisis and then expect those Somalians to fight and die fighting North Koreans. They would just flee elsewhere or return home instead. Besides at that point it wouldn't even be South Korea anymore, it'd be New Somalia and might become an ally of the commies rather than fight them.
because the dpp is weak as shit and a us vassal, they want the daddy usa to fight for them(no they will be used as meat shields by american)
when the kmt was in power they still fought in burma and laos in opium wars on the gruond.
@@therover65 explain why israel still has a military, and why north korea still has a military despite us threats,
or how cuba still has a military well trained
If a Battle Can't be Won Don't Fight it ~ Sun Tzu
When the PLA lands troops on Taiwanese beaches Taiwan can politely decline to fight. Sun Tzu was a genius.
@@waynzignordics they need to submit
@@waynzignordics Mainland will never invade. It is not profitable. They can just starve that small island without using expensive military operations.
Taiwan is lost cause even before mentioning a war against the Mainland
@@waynzignordics unintentionally based
性無能就不要生小孩
Interesting to see a video on the Taiwan Tensions instead of a constant focus on Ukraine
Taiwan is already Chinese 🇨🇳 88% of Taiwanese want to fully join China. It’s only time…
He does make videos outside of Ukraine content though
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Hey man, great video overall! Can you make a video about the possiblility of a Greco-Turkish war? You know, Greece is purchasing a lot of equipment and the tensions rise time to time.
Taiwan could have 100 times the manpower and still lose to China.
I am an ex Taiwanese soldiers, we called Taiwanese solider - Strawberry solider, because they are so weak like strawberry, most solider can not do exercise if Temperature is over 30 degree, most people will surrender when Chinese solider approaching. Taiwanese solider is a joke, that is why most of us move to oversea, most people has second passport to run in case of war.
I wonder, do taiwanese recruits even undergo shock training? like, how do they cope when a bomb or artillery shell goes off? can they even handle the expected bombardment by the mainland or would the all flee and surrender in their trenches?
It is very difficult for me to find a second country like Ukraine. The average country will not sacrifice itself to help the United States weaken its enemies.
Ukrainian are under influence of racial superiority complex, they think they racially superior to Russian, that's why then Russian bullet hit them, it will bounce back due to their racial superiority rather than causing any harm, that's why whole Ukraine is pile of debris right now
Stop doing meth
Yees, Ukrainian population is sacrificing their lives for the interest of the United States and not because they were invaded and want to protect their country and its sovereignty. Excellent analysis
Tbh
Does the Taiwanese wanna be part of Communist China clearly not (look at what happen to Hong Kong). If Xi attack Taiwan wether it is a blitzkrieg whether it is the end of Xi. China needs Taiwanese chipset and Western money (be sure that the american and european debt own by China will be dissolved in case of a war), we can leave without new phone but communist China will not last with skyrocketing unemployment.
Currently Taiwanese wealth is dependent on a productive workforce. Wealth can arm their military. Militaries are a deficit, and the only indirect positive they have is that they provide stability to keep wealth generating, but there comes a point of diminishing returns. The Taiwanese method of conscription and training needs to be reformed to keep up with modern expectations, but Taiwan's position on manpower of the professional army is not necessarily lacking for its needs. Just needs reform.
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"pro-democracy protest in HK". Yeah because it's so democratic to vandalize and destroy your own city when less than 20% of HK support independence. Ironic.
From where did your pull that number out?
@@josephcro2138 official ccp data with 100% accuracy, so of course it can be trusted 100%, after all the ccp never lie about anything! 😅🤣😂
@@josephcro2138 Not from USA media or "institutions"... that's for SURE
@@Kiyoone ahh you're one of those
The youth want to live in a Western style of freedom but don't want to fight for it. LMAO
The question that lots of people are asking now is: Is it worth it? Sacrifice all the good old common sense for the wokeness?
Does not really matter. The US and US tax payers are always ready to foot the bill lol.. Plus if China invades Japan will get involved as well. So 3 vs 1.
@@Kiyoone they already allowed same sex marriage in Taiwan.
"Western Style Freedom" lol The Freedom to do and say anything... as long it's 100% inline with the Establishment objectives and policies.
@@Kiyoone You don't need to be woke to love Freedom, the two can be separated and hopefully soon will be again in the west.
Does China even really need to land troops on Taiwan? Taiwan is heavily dependent on food imports and if China can do it then a Blockade could do much more damage than a military invasion ever could.
No. It'll be over before the missiles even fly.
What about other flashpoint countries? I would be interested in your opinion
As to why US might not want to sell the most modern stuff to Taiwan, you got to remember Taiwan is not 100% for independence and confrontation with China. There is sizeable part of society that is pro-unification with China. So US might not want to sell most modern military tech to country in which there are people wanting to unite with China and might actually unite with China in fear of war in which the US tech would end up in Chinese hands. Also it's worth to look up Taiwan's microchip industry like TSMC. China's been buying out all the top engineers from TSMS to relocate to mainland China and work on Chinese chip industry.
and in retaliation the US has refused to buy their products, closing a sizable market that could have aided Taiwan's economic growth, increasing their reliance on international support, support that would no doubt have conditions
Supply and demand. We're embargoing chip sales to China, creating a demand in the free market to make chips in China, creating a labor shortage of experienced engineers in that field, pushing up wages, which attracts engineers from TSMC and elsewhere. Capitalism at work. I don't understand why our politicians choose to fight capitalism itself, they're going to lose. China smartly aligns itself with capitalism, while we're trying to be the new Soviet Union.
@@LuoSon312_G8 it’s a lose lose for Taiwan then, China can just stop selling Taiwan the rare earths it takes to manufacture the chips and well as other sanctions on the island.
A lot of the older Taiwanese identify as Chinese ethnically especially if they are descended from the KMT. Some of these people go to China is not simply just an economic choice.
There is a large amount of the population that wants to China to unify with it. They want to be China, and control what the ROC controlled in China before they were exiled.
"As to why the US might not want to sell the most modern stuff...." much of which are obsolete equipment. and your analysis is right, the US will at least get SOME money for selling obsolete equipment or old stock. That has been on their mind(the US) all along.
I'm from Singapore and 4 months of basic training is more like a meet and greet session to get to know some friends and maybe get some help in job hunting in the future
Four months of basic? It's was more like two in US and then there was job-specific individual training for another two. But that was half a century ago, dunno about now.
Your're definitely a PES E clerk.
You should look up how many pilots Taiwan is training as well. They are getting to the point that there are more aircrafts than pilots, if not already there.
And lots of old aircrafts are in the sea.
Why would you want to become a target on behalf of the profit margins of the US military industrial complex? Barring a forced re-annexation of Taiwan by the use of force by China, what country is ever going to invade Taiwan and risk a confrontation with China.
Why not just improve relations with China instead of preparing for war with it? I guess it would make US mad so big no-no.
Its just not possible to do that because of china
It is very difficult for me to find a second country like Ukraine. The average country will not sacrifice itself to help the United States weaken its enemies.
Hong Kong kind of makes that hard, if China had given Hong Kong autonomous status for governing itself instead of taking over there might be a path. If China had treated Hong Kong better soft power might have allowed integration in the future.
@@Jeremy-WC HK essentially pulled their own version of Jan-6 by storming the parliament building as well as mass vandalism and civil unrest.
Thanks for the update
you got really cringe after 16 minutes.
Beijing had nothing to do with repressing the protests in HK, they waited until they ended & then forced through Article 23 which is part of the 1C2S agreement
those guys training with air soft rifles isn't gonna do anything, you were right at the start, once PLA has a beachhead it's ggwp
The camouflage masks I can't 🤣🤣🤣
Did you see the "Doraemon" and the "Digimon" ones? jeez😅
@@Kiyoone 😂
I was 1st Bn, 4th Inf, 3rd ID, Germany, at the end of Veitnam. The "Volunter Army" model came along about 1974, I think, and I was a volunteer. The vets complained the model was a disaster, because the volunteers were mostly poverty-level losers who couldn't make it on the outside. They said the draft grapped a lot of high-quality people from upper classes. You could see they were right -- most volunteers were drug addicts.
Good analysis. Thanks!
China at it's weakest just after the end of the civil war in 1949 almost pushed the combined UN force of the US, UK, and France off the Korean peninsula by itself the only reason they stopped was because they didn't have nukes to respond to the US.
Taiwan resistance will be measured in hours,............. not months, not weeks, nor days............just hours. Everyone in the know is well aware of this fact. The only reason China has not done it is because they still believe Taiwan will just give up, and they won't have to waist resources, and lives invading it. If that status quo changes they will invade it, no question.
They never will. The US will protect them and they could never stand up to the United States.
Good opportunity for Taiwan to develop a defense industry based on autonomous systems.
They are re crap
AI don't grow on trees. You need complete supply chains. Taiwan has TSMC, but little else either hardware or software side. Everything from circuit boards to copper wire tend to be sourced from mainland China.
Ummm, no
they're not Israel and even the Israelis don't have that many autonomous systems.
Nothing more autonomous for defense than living on a Giant Mountain in the rip currents of the ocean
Taiwan has 26 million ppl. It's about the same as Ukraine minus its own Russia supporting territories. And its economy at least 8 times that of Ukraine. And it's an island 200km away from border of China. If they can't defend their own country, it's their own fault. They don't have anyone else to blame.
Being poor is not a weakness when it comes to war. It is, in fact, a strength. Ukranian lives are cheaper. Poor people with little to lose and even less to live for make for willing canon fodder. Taiwan's problem is it's too rich.
@@georgedang449 I think you might be correct. Even with Russia it looks like the Chechens and people from rural areas are much more keen to go to Ukraine and get paid. Meanwhile, the elites/IT professionals/UA-camrs from St Petersberg and Moscow are fleeing the country.
Ukraine has 44 mil people though.
what country? Taiwanese and Chinese are one people. it'll be a tragedy for war to happen, but war will happen if the neocons in DC have their way.
@@joemammon6149 (1) they are not one people technically. (2) they live in very different societies in which Taiwan definitely has the better one.
The ChiComs be8ng humiliated would be the best outcome in any conflict with the Taiwanese retaining their de-facto independence.
Maybe some woked military recruiting commercials with two moms would help
Heard that they are doing a followup on that... They gonna make a video about the draft and how one of the 2 Emma's mother died in war defending other country "freedom and democracy"
At the end of the day, I think that the biggest factor for wether or not China takes over Taiwan if the invasion occurs, is wether the US interferes or not.
China will not set foot on Taiwanese Islands unless the US provokes them into it. Neither does China see this as viable, China sees it as a last resort if every other effort is exhausted to reclaim their rightful sovereignty, there are other options for China to reunify with Taiwan as well, I mean look at how China regained Hong Kong, it wasn't via war or military invasion, it was simply purging the old relics or legacy of British colonialism in Hong Kong, such as getting rid of rubbish liberal studies in education which was one of the root causes of why the youth in 2019 HK were so brainwashed. It was through rubbish whitewashed history textbooks, other rubbish idiologies introduced with liberal studies. Its the exact same thing in Taiwan as well. Whitewashing of history, going as far as trying to warp the youths minds about their own identity & where they came from.
The DPP in Taiwan, is less democratic than people think. You go to Taiwan & ask the local people there, a lot of them do NOT like Tsai Ing Wen & her party, all they want is peace, better living standards, but the DPP doesn't care about the people in Taiwan, so this idea of Taiwan as a democracy, freedom, is a smokescreen, many local Taiwanese even say this as well.
Some do want to actually have reunification with China, then there are those who do not. Those who do, cannot be dismissed either, its the exact same thing that happened in Hong Kong, everyone outside HK completely ignored the other side of the argument, the people who supported HK police & HK government & China, those voices were all ignored by all western rubbish msm, now for Twiwan, its the same thing, those people who do want reunification & do identify with China's ambitions & development do NOT get heard on any rubbish biased western msm. Only Tsai Ing Wen & her clique get their voices heard in west, this is extremely dangerous, because Taiwan is NOT like Ukraine, or Iraq, or Libya, Taiwan is China's sovereign territory, this DPP has always had intentions for full out independence which is unnacceptable to China & the Chinese people also do NOT accept this, even the Taiwanese people don't want to provoke this . But the US, the Taiwanese DPP & their allies keep pushing for this to come to fruition, despite what they talk & claim that they do NOT wish to incite, encourqge any kind of independence of Taiwan from China, but their actions speak for themselves, then why does the US, sell weapons to Taiwan, why do certain European countries continue to antagonise China over Taiwan issue? It seems that the US, EU have a double standard on their Taiwan policy.
Imagine for example if China, or Russia were to incite, encourage full out independence of certain regions in the states or in UK, how would either governments of those countries react to that. Yet i find it bizarre that western pundits, act surprised whenever they see a knee jerk reaction from China whenever these types of things happen, its strange for me to see others react like that, like as if they didn't expect this to happen. Its crazy, dangerous, reckless & based on pure ignorance of Taiwans history.
Who was it that supported the Nationalists aka KMT, it was America who supported them against Mao & the communists. Well, the Maoists, took over China 🇨🇳, & is the recognised entity that represents the Chinese people, today Taiwan is largely seen as the American attack dog to be used against China, we see this with TSMC, with US trying to prevent this company being in the hands of China, we all know the future markets now is microchips. Whoever controls TSMC has a handle on future development for AI tech, AI driven vehicles. It just so happens that the US, doesn't want China getting their hands on this Tech before the US does, what does this remind of????
This is akin to what happened with Japan in their economic bubble in the 199p's or late '80's, with US, swooping in, & taking over their technology to crush their economic competitors in Japan, its the exact same thing happening with China.
And the 🇺🇸 can only manipulate their stock market to a point until, it all comes crashing down on themselves. Their idiotic policies, throughout the years, have overstretched their own military, have devastated their own domestic economy, its not how, if, but WHEN it will come crashing down on them.
🇺🇸 Is playing with fire 🔥 here. And they're trying to fight fire 🔥 with 🔥
If an invasion occurs, China will take over Taiwan regardless of US intervention.
@@exu7325 Not sure if we mean the same thing, but if by invasion you mean, takeover by military force, then, I would have to disagree, as you can see from my earlier post.
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Legends is Hungarian confirmed 100%
He wasn't on a holiday
He was just making gulyás leves 😳
As we have seen in Ukraine Manpower is vital to keep the defence or attack going and to gain the momentum. Technology and aircraft alone don't win wars, especially if you ain't got anyone to hold the trenches and stop the enemy from just rolling onto your airfields, artillery positions and even your seat of power building.
A battle for taiwan would likely be decided at sea and in the air, not on the ground. If China can gain air and naval control around taiwan, and land an army, and supply and reinforce it, the issue would likely be decided. 23 million taiwanese against a billion Chinese.
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Wow I was looking for a comment like this and I think you might be the only person with a brain here. Missiles are going to be a lot more important here due to Taiwan being an island over almost any other war. You can just look at the battle of Okinawa or the Falklands islands and see that the a lot of if not the majority of casualties came from ships being hit. If china isn’t able to gain air superiority, then there’s no way they’ll be able to take over the island. If china is able to land troops, it doesn’t matter how many people the defenders have. There’s no way the US will be able to deliver supplies without getting involved in an armed conflict with China.
True but China will probably be fighting US, Japanese, Taiwanese and Australian navies and airforces so easier said than done. China would need hundreds of ships, aircraft and tens of thousands of missiles.
its not 23 million taiwanese against a billion Chinese. its 23 million Taiwanese against whatever ships can survive the journey.
@@mcb4067 lol yea 23m willing to die in the war.
@@MRrealmadridRaul theres pretty much no way the mainland can't gain air superiority over taiwan. The sheer fact that china has a sizeable 5th generation fighter fleet while taiwan doesn't pretty much ensures that.
We recently had drills with the Japanese, let's say, their effort were very much lackluster.
Intriguing. Can you disclose a bit more?
Well at least they have mandatory service.
Meanwhile Here in my country Students got so LAX as they opposed Reserve Officers Training Course 6 mons Basic and another 6 mons specialization. For College Students hopefully the Mandatory ROTC will be implemented.
The answer is necessity. We don't have an archrival that needs us to implement mandatory military service. The country needed to improve the economy than the defense. Improving defense first without the economy is putting the cart before the horse.
The manpower of the country is enough to form a volunteer only military. We need more money than bodies.
@@linming5610 it's ROTC not Mandatory Service, ROTC is pretty much just a Disciple Team Building Activity done in college students. That is why I advocate for it being implemented they are not bodies to be thrown to war unless at absolute necessity.
Economy Wise we are F I know, Duterte's Term was good and all but the Pandemic came and F us up again not to mention the Oil shortage the world is Suffering today further F'ng our economy hopefully in the next 10-15 years all the infrastructure being built will be finished and be utilized for our the betterment of our economy.
Love your collaboration with DPA (Defense Politic Aaaaaiiiiiiisia!!)
@@DefensePoliticsAsia hi dpa!
Good video as always
How unprepared and vunerable Taiwan really is, is very scary! I think the young generation who want to be considered as Taiwanese only and demand offical independence from the PRC, need to wake up and realise that the threat is very real and they need to be ready!
I am also smelling some infiltration in this clearly this general unpreparedness is not just random
Yea they need to wake up and stop believing in western crap influence! They are China and will always be China!
Yeah I think they need to increase conscription to at least 12 months. Israel has like 30 months(that is a lot but I guess necessary).
@@EatMyShortsAU When you see blue and yellow you know what?
The real threat is from America, they'll throw you under the bus to serve their own interests ie controlling the chip industry
Great assessment! You are doing excellent quality research. Keep up the great work.
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hmmm.... concerning... =x
I still think Taiwan should bring back conscription~
and find a way for conscripts to learn skills in the military that they can use in the professional world
Nice cope, kommandant.
I'm afraid too little too late for Taiwan...
I think people who think Taiwan stands a chance against China are living in fantasy land, they've watched waaaaay too many Hollywood movies.
Like the Russian army is nr2 in the world, don't get me started. But Taiwan does not stand alone, they are backed up by the rest of the sane world, just like Ukraine.
I think they're relying on China being as good as Russia, but tbh China has a lot more manpower, and a lot more money to throw at good equipment. Plus they seem to be following the more Western doctrine and not the Soviet style one like Russia.
@@orangeairsoft7292 Plus Chinese troops are way way waaaaay more motivated to take over Taiwan than even the most passionate Putin supporter in the Russian army was to engage in Ukraine. China's population has had it drilled into their heads unquestionably for the past 70 years that Taiwan is indisputably a province of China that must be reunited.
@@orangeairsoft7292 But how good is their copi jets and tanks?
@@Firewordien better than the original russian ones
Fun fact, most of these training camps use toy guns. They shoot airsoft. That is why the price is low.
I play airsoft and probably shoot and train with my airsoft guns more than them.
As always another Job well done
4:17 That's literally Cult of Personality. Even the Chinese didn't put Mao Pucture as big as that in the Chinese Politburo
Ukraine, if smart enough, should not take sides. Rather, there should be benefits from both Europe and Russia in the middle. The political movement in 2014 completely changed the fate of Ukraine, leaving Ukraine no chance to choose. The division of the country, including the war, was the aftermath of the color revolution. so sad
What do you expect from the most corrupted gov of Europe and its poorest country? They were so much better positioned than practically everyone else except Eastern Germany when the Eastern Bloc collapsed. Something is terribly wrong with its people. Just like something is terribly wrong with the Chinese people that they actually let Cultural Revolution happened to them. If they don't recognize it and take actions to remedy for it. I don't have any sympathy or respect for them.
They did. And then that ended in 2014. Could’ve ended with Minsk II. But, when you have no sovereignty you don’t decide your fate. When a government comes to power via coups, civil wars, etc., whomever controls the faction in power. They control your sovereignty.
Couldn’t thank Ukraine enough for sacrificing themselves for us. So sweet, Europeans always favored that “assisted suicide” shit. Pitiful, but I’ll take it lmao
It definitely prevented it from becoming another Belarus regardless.
Really enjoyed this one! Thank you.
Can you do a video about the Narco-wars in Mexico?
Very interesting topics
There are anough men here in the west playing CoD, MoH and battlefield on PlayStation that would go there as volunteers
If COD is all you need to be an effective soldier, then why don't we send the 12 yr olds and neckbeards to defend Taiwan.
@@orangeairsoft7292 a good question.
Here is something else to consider: in Switzerland, every soldier can keep their gun at home and most do. In fact one can keep whole arsenals in their basement. In case of war, the invader will get attacked at all times by an armed populace. They can only temporarily conquer but not occupy. Like Afghanistan
It would not be a foreign occupation like the US. Chinese don't really want to harm Chinese.
@@litesp Hahaha you must be working for CCP. Thousands of people would be incarcerated, many quietly executed. As evil as the US empire can be, it is still morally superior to communist China.
So what's to stop the invaders from bombing the armed populace into nothing?
@@kanestalin7246 They can do that, just like US bombed Vietnam and Afghanistan. But they can't hold territory. Eventually the invader will lose against an armed populace.
I wanna say that m1a2 aren't in service yet and they still operate with mostly m60s and m48s lacking thermals
They have thermals and digital fire control.
@@ReviveHF the m1a2? yes they do, but the m60s and m48s do not or they operate with 1st gen thermals
What do you think about the Philippines military capabilities? The Philippines army has already had guerilla war experience from it's years long insurgency problem. Does it means it has a capability to counter an invasion from a foreign country like China? Would be glad if you make a review and video about it.
As a Filipino i second this
With regards to combat experience in fighting ISIS extremists and communist insurgents the Philippines already has 50 years of extensive experience up to battalion level most especially in jungle warfare. But they have very few modern heavy equipment (aircraft, tanks, artillery etc) to fight a modern army. Guerilla warfare would be the end result if a foreign army invades.
@@caloycruz you make a point
@@caloycruz defo 100%. A long protracted guerilla war is to ensure if a foreign force were to invade the Philiphines. It will be Vietnam 2.0
Filipinos were also effective fighters against the regular US army and marines in the Independence war from 1899-1902. This lead to the sad death of around 500,000 Filipino civilians. It is always the civilians who bear the brunt of the pain brought by warfare and a few who profit from it.
If reincarnation is real, you were an excellent General in your past life.
Facts
From what we see in Ukraine, I´m not entirely convinced that Taiwan would survive the protection by these brave and idealistic young men. In any case they could only drive up the body count of the attackers. What a waste for both sides...
As somebody who's country features a 12 month draft let me tell you, 4 months are nowhere near enough to turn a civilian into a soldier
Can you f'in blame them for not wanting to go Infantry ?
You deal with SO MUCH MORE bullshit than a POG , yet you get paid EXACTLY THE SAME and you don't learn ANY skill that's transferable to the civilian world !
Don't come at me with that "what about skills like Leadership?!" crap either.
Putting "leadership" on your resume doesn't mean a thing to employers.
(I speak from experience here btw. Had to use part of my GI bill to learn a civi skill because I was too full of testosterone to enlist in something that would serve me later in life and wanted to pewpewpew instead).
Source :
2 years Belgian Army infantry
4 years US Army Armor Crewman (yes, I was dumb enough to choose a combat MOS twice lol)
2.3 million light infantrymen is way too many.
That ratio is way too fucking high.
I think the solution is what Taiwanese voters just communicated in the last election. Restore the status quo relations vis a vis China. Both sides of the Taiwan Strait were doing fine until some idiots got into the TW government. This talk of independence is a non-starter.
As a mainland Chinese, I want peace.
Then China should stay home
Taiwan is part of China if you like it or not .that would be like Tasmania being it's own country from AUSTRALIA.
Those carry handle M16’s are cool as fuck though.
Taiwan needs to do the following:
1. Have a 2nd amendment/strong gun culture and follow the Swiss in all men must have guns and equipment ready in their home.
2. Have a conscript training system comparable to South Korea, Israel, and Switzerland.
3. Be like the Swiss in their prior years with defense systems around the country and always ready for war.
4. Have a realistic strategy to counter China. The current president strategy if a great deal example.
5. “The wise warrior avoids the battle.” - Sun Tzu (Have peaceful relations with China and stop always following US foreign policy. Avoid any conflict, but be ready to give China hell if you have to go to war.)
That's not going to save them if the Chinese ever launch an assault on Taiwan, my friend.
How naive you are, the second largest party in taiwan are pro mainland. It will just make the job easier for the mainland because of a possible insurrection.
This is the most sensible comment for this video.
Guns won't do shit against missiles
At first I thought those were pickelhaube helmets, I had to look again hahaha.
We mustn't exclude the rather progressive & pacifist mainstream media as a factor of issues with manpower, this has caused less of a nationalistic ideology to be seen amongst the Taiwanese people, and funnily enough the same could be said for America, which also has a military that is declining faster than initially anticipated.
Good
In other words, their culture is going in the wrong direction, and becoming weak.
It is a reaction to the old KMT regime which was super nationalistic and militaristic. My mom had rifle training in high school back in the day, and air raid drills at school.
If the DPP (President Tsai's party) started trying to be nationalistic and militaristic that's like defeating the whole point of electing them. The DPP is supposed to be progressive and Western.
Good video Alex
Every Taiwanese person I met with 2 exceptions acted like Mr bean and mind you they came to study as doctors good luck though
Wtf
I don't think it's possible for Taiwan to be ready even of they mobilized the toddlers and the grannies. They have 60 times smaller population. I don't see how it's ever going to work
I've been saying this since the war in Ukraine started. Taiwan doesn't take the threat seriously. Four months is simply pathetic for a conscript system. Absolute minimum is a year. But, I prefer Korea's 2-year system. That's a country that takes its threats seriously.
A threat that could have been peacefully settled decades again except for US interference. Trump made an effort, but his neocon cabinet ruined it.
Ok, this private military training sounds great and all if you are trying to form light infantry.
Trouble is, light infantry doesn:t do very well against artillery and armoured formations.
Guerilla fighting in the mountains and urban areas can be done with light infantry though right?
@@danshakuimo depending on the enemy and their ability to blow you up, maybe.
Taiwan is rich unlike ukraine, that is the very big difference and a great disadvantage in terms of conflict. The more poorer people you have the more manpower is willing to join an army, because they have nothing to lose and have no choice. Lack of manpower is also a problem in the US because there are more better opportunity elsewhere.
And the people will generally be physically tougher. Someone who, at age 18-20 (or older, if they are reservists being called up), who makes a living as a farmer, factory worker, construction labourer, etc. is going to simply be more physically capable than someone who spends excessively long hours studying and playing video games, as young men tend to do in Taiwan, and whose jobs, if they have any, are computer or service jobs with very little physical exertion. So, not only is there a small manpower pool, but the contents of that pool are mostly going to be inherently unfit for physically demanding and dangerous activities.
Taiwan is an island nation. if it's blockaded the Chinese can do whatever they want
also unlike ukraine, taiwan has no NATO to fall back on to train up and re-equip additional troops away from attack. Once the shooting starts what taiwan has is all it has.
I think they are even more educated than the US. Being college educated is the norm there and once you become college educated nobody in their right mind would join the military since the pay is low and you have everything to lose. TBH, surrendering to PRC might be more practical since you are actually more valuable to China with your skills and the fact you can already speak the language.
A video on Indian Preparedness against the Chinese would be interesting. Like we have gone through a large scale reforms
This is all such a tragedy. Taiwan is part of China and China already had a plan of peaceful unification with the mainland, much like how they did in Hong Kong. In fact, most taiwanese people do see themselves as chinese and want to unify. But unfortunately the US has been funding separatists and is now trying to start a new proxy war, using Taiwan as cannon fodder
How much do you get paid to spread horseshit like this?
Taiwan will be like PUBG chinese version.. chinese drops via parachute and loot weapons inside
People seem to believe that removing conscription for a volunteer force is overwhelming superior; it is not. Volunteer soldiers join for many reasons, money, patriotism, benefits, duty ect. That means that many volunteer soldiers can turn tail and run or have low discipline just as conscripts, the Ukrainians have conscripts and some of them have performed good, conscripts just means you MUST be part of the military if they ever need it, and the same issues that effect the volunteer forces are found in the conscripts. The main difference is this, one is a whole time STANDING army while the other takes time to gather and retrain In the case of a war, like in the case of Russia.
Generally I thought conscription was to make sure the population all has some basic training so in the case of a draft they’re not starting from scratch.
@@randomclick2826 That too. But there are several kinds of conscripts, Russian conscription means all MEN have to do service unless they have a legit reason, while African conscription just means “here is a gun and some ammo, go fight” ; Conscription is a 2 year contract in Russia and after it you are released. The men who have volunteered were all conscripts and are doing retraining to keep their skills sharp, it is useless to send untrained men into combat.
I’m from your area on my father’s side: Poles from modern day Czechoslovakia. Good people 👍
The private training is only good for tactics and perhaps the weight of the gun, but there is no recoil, theh use airsoft which is laughable...
Its just a way for these airsoft suppliers and roleplayers to capitalise on the threat for profits
Thanks HistoryLegends for this constructive criticism of Taiwan defense.
3:26 BACK SCABBARD!!!
Conscription...for men only. Hmmmm...
Freedom is good so long as you can defend it.
It's better if Taiwan does nor become ukraine in the first place as its economy is heavily dependent on China.
Taiwanese Dollars : destroyed. Korean Won: destroyed. Japanese Yen: Destroyed. Australian dollars: destroyed. Other Asian Currencies: no problem at all.
No need to talk on the internet. The market is mansplaning all of you who think the US can protect a country from China or Russia. As it mansplained Truss back to where she belongs: her kitchen.
Yikes!!
I did not know about how poorly trained and maintained the Taiwanese military really is
Can we expect a similar vide about the PLA? There aren't that many good videos about them
The PLA is a lot more professional than Taiwanese army for sure. Just look at the military exercises.
I thought the headline said:
"make soldiers",
never mind
Holy dang are they all blind 😂😂😂 90% have glasses 😂
you should link sources in the discriptions...
8:10 in India, new recruits get paid 2400 USD aftet taxes with a 70m² apartment when they start in PPP and lieutenants get around 12000-18000 USD (PPP) after taxes with a bungalow and a servant's room
You sure about that? I just looked up several different resources that said Lieutenants make about $640 USD per month, not $12,000 USD per month. Quite a difference there. If what you said was true, every non-millionaire in India would be signing up for the military and the military budget would completely bankrupt the country.
@@DavidGravesExists 270 USD for new recruit
@@DavidGravesExists lolx exactly
Volunteer military only works better if you have incentives to join and a culture that appreciates military service. If those two things are missing, who the hell would willingly join? Also avoid consistently treating your volunteers poorly. Something as simple as improving the food and living conditions can raise morale and willingness to serve immensely.
I guess historylegends does not like china
Who does really? 🤣😂😂 No one has killed and repressed Chinese people more than the ccp! (see cultural revoltion, Great Leap Forward, Tiananmen Square, One Child Policy, Xinjiang Genocide etc etc etc etc etc.
China will bombard and reduce Taiwan for months before a landing of ground troops. They saw Russia’s mistake of allowing Ukraine’s Air Force to survive and won’t let Taiwan’s Air Force survive.
Then drones and and cruise missiles will hit barracks, fuel depots, bridges, internet cables, substations, etc.
Taiwanese armored vehicles are obsolete compared to Chinese in both quality and numbers. Resupply of Taiwan will be difficult if not impossible
yes and there will be no way for the west to resupply taiwan with new weapons. Nobody will dare run the mainland blockade much less engage in a full scale naval war to break it.
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Social Credit
you realize the "social credit score" is just a reddit meme? I wouldnt even doubt if it was created by the CIA or some sort of western propaganda.
I would not have thought that they would have put so much money into equipment and so little into the people using it.
Taiwan should really be enacting a right to bare arms in its country. Encouraging Taiwanese militias and paramilitary forces to be created and rise up. Encourage Taiwanese nationalism and right to independence. Giving everyone old enough a firearm and simple training of how to use them. Just some ideas so they won't fall quietly.
Taiwanese 2nd amendment real
Like short sleeves bare arms?
Progressive Politics ruins the Nationalisn Elements
Yeah be like America , 3 guns per person 😆
@@andrewmorgan5950 Shooting Range:
School
All the young people in TW firmly believes Dady USA will send their boys to their island to help them.
Hi, Very good! Now, I can understand effectively why Putin says: you (to Xi) do not need to use force to take Taiwan. Does that mean that Information warfare or psyop is enough? Now, speaking of my good friend's business, I have now some relief from Moscow's Strategy and tactics and their effective implementation on the battlefield. Nonetheless, your new show will be very welcome... Many thx...
..are they really preffering video games over actually defending their country lol
If only everyone preferred video games over defending countries
@@Frostbranch1 yea then every country would be run by people who stand up for their country lol
@@bruhmcchaddeus413 If nobody cared about countries we'd have peace but ofcourse that's unrealistic and impossible atleast today
@@Frostbranch1 ..yea no, if noone cared then all countries would be run by one country where people cared lol its called humant instincts
and u prefer war over video game? funny that people like u wouldnt last weeks in frontline.