You forgot the biggest difference is with bootmod3 its doesn't affect daily drive ability. It's a flash so it uses all the parameters necessary to make your car run better/ squeeze more out of it. The jb4 is just tricking your ecu into boosting more. Much more limited with the control and adjustments on the user and on the program side of things. Bm3 is just safer alternative imo.
@@datboidroc . Yes It is insane(BM3), I did mine like a month ago, much faster, and the car feels much smoother. So many good things to list. I am waiting for the weather to clear up and I will take video of my car.
N55 here, JB4 is aight, it'll miscalculate once in a while, specially at higher altitudes. I often go from 11k ft to 5k ft, so I'll always get a check engine light mid way if I'm on map 1, map 5 was ok the one time I tried it. Went to 500ft above sea level once, and because my ECU was used to high altitude, when I enabled map 1, I got a crazy ass launch like I've never felt before on this car, but I did get a check engine light for the chassis. which JB cleared and never came back after a few launches. I just recently did an e85 mix, and kind of miscalculated it, had a quarter, added 8 gallons, thinking the rest would be around 4 gallons, but it ended up being 6. Anyways, went for a few pulls, and man, gotta love it! It definitely feels faster, specially on higher speeds, and it also keeps the engine way cooler, on normal driving, it'd be at half the gauge, but it's now at a quarter! Any ways, I may part ways with the JB4 and get a custom MHD tune with xHP in the future, but for now, I want MHD on my X5 as it's my daily lol
Interesting, ive got an f56 s with the same engine just dialled back a bit as standard but with its stage 1 with supporting mods it’s a little animal and with the bms intake the induction noises are so much more pronounced than the bmw models. But yeah gr8 video guys👍🏻👍🏻
I think you guys failed to mention that Jb4 engine light popped up every time you drive the car with warning: Catless+downpipe air mass plausibility turner code, electric wastegate, stop learning, etc. I am running in JB4 for awhile and getting very tired of the warnings. I am considering Bootmod3. I have an F32. I have contacted Burger Tuning various time to get these issues fix. But I think it is mandated
I’m currently running stage 1 BM3, I’m looking to switch to stage 2. so far I have AFE cold intake ER charge pipe ER catless downpipe MST turbo inlet an Remus axle back exhaust. Will I be able to switch to stage 2 from these mods or is an intercooler highly required?
so if you want to get a new downpipe, will you be able to get a tune for that with both devices or will you only be able to get a tun for your new downpipe on the bootmod3? Thanks!
Hey guys great video, stumbled on you alls channel but after watching, you have a new subscriber... the next step in my evolution for my n55 f30 is a tune and I've been trying to decide between BM3 and JB4 so this video helped alot... that being said...Matt, question for ya: I'm leaning towards BM3 and really like that phone stand you have sitting on your center console for live readings. Whats the brand...have a link?
real1 jimbone www.amazon.com/SCOSCHE-MAGWSM2-MagicMount-Universal-Magnetic/dp/B00R2K4LCY/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=Car+suction+mount&qid=1552370819&s=gateway&sr=8-4 here’s the link
EverythingGoodPro Harris most definitely! It’s a full on flash tune... it’s just a “E” tune so you don’t have to take it to a tuner. You just do everything through the app or desktop version
From jb4 to bm3 i had them both dyno jb4 stage 2 on map 2 i got 192kw rear wheels bm3 was 180kw rear wheels. The bm3 had 20kw more power pulls from 0 to 4500 rpm curve.
@@peterpeterson9886 I read a bunch of stuff on bimmerpost. If your car gets any really serious damage, the dealer will do a more thorough investigation on the cause and they will find the traces of the both the JB4 and BM3 tunes. This was written by a BMW tech who said he has dealt with people removing the tune before taking the car in for expensive repairs. Looks like the only 100% safe way to get more power is use Dinan or just buy an M3 over a 335. But from what Ive heard, the N55 should handle the extra power just fine.
@@hds8182 I already have a 335 and if I upgrade, it will be to an M3. I decided I'm just gonna tune it with BM3. The transmission and engine should be able to handle it.
In reality yes, if BMW wants to they can see any increase in boost in the datalogs. Its easy for them to see; if you want a warranty i suggest going with a 3rd party. If you want to keep your current warranty buy a JB+ and just take it off when you go in, theyll have no reason to suspect anything if theres nothing done to the engine.
Don’t do this unless you know what you’re doing. If you want a fast car get a 335-340 not a 328 gas saver. Not saying you can’t have fun in it, do your homework
Jordan S I had the JB4 for a long time like I said! They’re both great tunes just save up and get the BM3. Be sure to get supporting mods like mine to keep it safe and reliable! I.E. charge pipe, intake, and maybe even a bigger front mount if you’re feeling spicy lol
@@DennisKarlsson You can go back, but if you have a warranty and are trying to use it, the dealers' diagnostic tool can read if flashes have been done. I don't know if it specifies the type of flash but it does show dates and times the flash(s) occurred. They can in turn use it against you to not have to cover anything via warranty.
@@johnrodriguez9720 idk what that means. Your original comment suggested that only the f30 3 series comes in 4 door and not the 4 series. Calling it a gran coupe or 4dr is irrelevant. It's a 4dr sedan literally looks identical to f30 except it's rear glass opens up with trunk. No need for technical names to confuse people more.
You forgot the biggest difference is with bootmod3 its doesn't affect daily drive ability. It's a flash so it uses all the parameters necessary to make your car run better/ squeeze more out of it. The jb4 is just tricking your ecu into boosting more. Much more limited with the control and adjustments on the user and on the program side of things. Bm3 is just safer alternative imo.
Hey so does the bootmod3 gives u more power like the jb4?
@@datboidroc . Yes It is insane(BM3), I did mine like a month ago, much faster, and the car feels much smoother. So many good things to list. I am waiting for the weather to clear up and I will take video of my car.
Oh perfect thanks man well I definitely know what I’m getting then!!
@@joes3534 Did u install a Downpipe & charge pipe along with it?
Rodd Slip yes I did! Made a huge difference
Got BM3 6 months ago and love it no issues
Is stage 1 good for the 535i 2013 and how much bhp
I have a 2014 528i heard you can go stage one stock
I’m stage one on my 2013 335i and I’m at 400hp 400tq
Basically if you don’t want to void your warranty get the jb4 but if you don’t care bm3
N55 here, JB4 is aight, it'll miscalculate once in a while, specially at higher altitudes. I often go from 11k ft to 5k ft, so I'll always get a check engine light mid way if I'm on map 1, map 5 was ok the one time I tried it. Went to 500ft above sea level once, and because my ECU was used to high altitude, when I enabled map 1, I got a crazy ass launch like I've never felt before on this car, but I did get a check engine light for the chassis. which JB cleared and never came back after a few launches. I just recently did an e85 mix, and kind of miscalculated it, had a quarter, added 8 gallons, thinking the rest would be around 4 gallons, but it ended up being 6. Anyways, went for a few pulls, and man, gotta love it! It definitely feels faster, specially on higher speeds, and it also keeps the engine way cooler, on normal driving, it'd be at half the gauge, but it's now at a quarter! Any ways, I may part ways with the JB4 and get a custom MHD tune with xHP in the future, but for now, I want MHD on my X5 as it's my daily lol
Interesting, ive got an f56 s with the same engine just dialled back a bit as standard but with its stage 1 with supporting mods it’s a little animal and with the bms intake the induction noises are so much more pronounced than the bmw models. But yeah gr8 video guys👍🏻👍🏻
I think you guys failed to mention that Jb4 engine light popped up every time you drive the car with warning: Catless+downpipe air mass plausibility turner code, electric wastegate, stop learning, etc. I am running in JB4 for awhile and getting very tired of the warnings. I am considering Bootmod3. I have an F32. I have contacted Burger Tuning various time to get these issues fix. But I think it is mandated
Can I leave jb4 plugged in at map 0 when flashing BM3?
bm3 can tune your transmission also
Where did your boy get that cold air intake to go behind grille?
Do you think BM3 is better than MHD and why?
I’m currently running stage 1 BM3, I’m looking to switch to stage 2. so far I have AFE cold intake ER charge pipe ER catless downpipe MST turbo inlet an Remus axle back exhaust. Will I be able to switch to stage 2 from these mods or is an intercooler highly required?
You're good with what you have so no, but it wouldn't hurt. if you can, why not?
You can go stage 2 forsure just can’t be doing many back to back pulls
A flash is ALWAYS going to be better
how did you make the cold air intake
so if you want to get a new downpipe, will you be able to get a tune for that with both devices or will you only be able to get a tun for your new downpipe on the bootmod3? Thanks!
did you find any answer on this? Thanks 🙏
Which tune is the best for max HP gain?
What headlights are those???
Hey guys great video, stumbled on you alls channel but after watching, you have a new subscriber... the next step in my evolution for my n55 f30 is a tune and I've been trying to decide between BM3 and JB4 so this video helped alot... that being said...Matt, question for ya: I'm leaning towards BM3 and really like that phone stand you have sitting on your center console for live readings. Whats the brand...have a link?
Gregg Rozmerski
Also wondering about the phone mount
Jeff Michel it is a generic suction cup mount with a swivel
Bm3 without question dude. I have it. Its amazing. Fuck piggy back.
Can you do your own custom tune with Bootmod3 or do you have a go with a certified cie ?
how mich did you pay for the license? is in necessary in order to download tunes?
What phone mount does he have? I like the positioning.
real1 jimbone www.amazon.com/SCOSCHE-MAGWSM2-MagicMount-Universal-Magnetic/dp/B00R2K4LCY/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=Car+suction+mount&qid=1552370819&s=gateway&sr=8-4 here’s the link
@@thecookie1817 pog
that intake filter looks shady af
it does
Is it possible to get a jb4 with a 2017 320i 4cylinder?!
yes
So does the bootmod3 gives you more power like the jb4?
EverythingGoodPro Harris most definitely! It’s a full on flash tune... it’s just a “E” tune so you don’t have to take it to a tuner. You just do everything through the app or desktop version
Where can I get that Phone mount
Good work done
Can you use both together.
what is stock boost? and what is high boost setting for JB4
Filip Nawrot stock boost was 9psi. I push 21psi now with the JB4
Really irrelevant as the DME is all about load.
Filip Nawrot did u figure this out
How you connected with your phone? Do you have a laptop connected also.
You can connect to it with the bootmod3 WiFi agent and the app
@@thecookie1817 ah right so you need that little black box thing?
rockyrobin24 yeah you can find it on the protuningfresks website or on eBay for less
@@thecookie1817 sound I just use my laptop I don't need to map on tjr fly.. Was just curious.
I have a 428i I’m looking to gain massive HP not sure which tune to use.. any help?
From jb4 to bm3 i had them both dyno jb4 stage 2 on map 2 i got 192kw rear wheels bm3 was 180kw rear wheels. The bm3 had 20kw more power pulls from 0 to 4500 rpm curve.
Is boot mode available for e chasis?
Where's the trunk lip from?
Could I turn off either tune when bringing my car in for service?
You can flash your car to stock in minutes with bm3
SneakerAddict does it leave a trace will dealership mechanics be able to tell
@@peterpeterson9886 I read a bunch of stuff on bimmerpost. If your car gets any really serious damage, the dealer will do a more thorough investigation on the cause and they will find the traces of the both the JB4 and BM3 tunes. This was written by a BMW tech who said he has dealt with people removing the tune before taking the car in for expensive repairs. Looks like the only 100% safe way to get more power is use Dinan or just buy an M3 over a 335. But from what Ive heard, the N55 should handle the extra power just fine.
young 95 get a 340 instead of the 335
@@hds8182 I already have a 335 and if I upgrade, it will be to an M3. I decided I'm just gonna tune it with BM3. The transmission and engine should be able to handle it.
Are these n20 engines?
Yes sirr
Valley crew as in you guys are in the 818 valley?
Seems like BM3 for burbles, customization, and smoother power delivery and JB4 for pure performance and convenience
Tim Brazil bootmod3 gives more performance power.
@@newburrypark09 And can be unloaded to restore stock tune with no trace like spliced in JB4. as the latter will nullify any warranty once found.
Are there any burbles with the JB+ or JB4?
Not really
Would both void dealer warranty?
In reality yes, if BMW wants to they can see any increase in boost in the datalogs. Its easy for them to see; if you want a warranty i suggest going with a 3rd party. If you want to keep your current warranty buy a JB+ and just take it off when you go in, theyll have no reason to suspect anything if theres nothing done to the engine.
Don’t do this unless you know what you’re doing. If you want a fast car get a 335-340 not a 328 gas saver. Not saying you can’t have fun in it, do your homework
Why not?
@@UssGo Its because a lot of things can go wrong ifyou dont look into it enough. Not really meant for the newbie car guy... Big risk = Big Money
the exhaust sound like the car is broken
Lets not forget jb4 won’t kill your warranty can just remove ot
False
Boosted Bavarian why false ?
Is it 2 litre engine?
Yes
This makes me kinda bummed I went with the JB4. Oh well at least I got mine for only $200.
Jordan S I had the JB4 for a long time like I said! They’re both great tunes just save up and get the BM3. Be sure to get supporting mods like mine to keep it safe and reliable! I.E. charge pipe, intake, and maybe even a bigger front mount if you’re feeling spicy lol
What do you use after 9 months? Still with jb4? I am planning to bm3 the only issue is i love jb4's instant map switch
@@O.A_Ih4teno0bs what did you end up going with? i have an f31 b46/b48 and am trying to figure out what tune to get either bm3 or jb4
@@27BILLY99 I ended up with custom flash 😂
@@O.A_Ih4teno0bs how does one do a custom flash?
BM3 requires DME removal?
Brad0st no it doesn’t ;)
No but it does write on ur DME so if ur under warranty theres no going back
@@WhoMeee You can go back. There's an option for it in the app.
@@DennisKarlsson You can go back, but if you have a warranty and are trying to use it, the dealers' diagnostic tool can read if flashes have been done. I don't know if it specifies the type of flash but it does show dates and times the flash(s) occurred. They can in turn use it against you to not have to cover anything via warranty.
Any legit tune is better than a JB4
Funny all the signs in "Mexico" are still in English lol
cars revs
what BMW is this
435i with the Bootmod and 428i with the JB4.
They’re both 328i. Not 428. They’re 4 door sedans.
@@johnrodriguez9720 true. But 4 series come in 4 door too....
Hoang Nguyen yes you’re right, only the Gran Coupes do.
@@johnrodriguez9720 idk what that means. Your original comment suggested that only the f30 3 series comes in 4 door and not the 4 series. Calling it a gran coupe or 4dr is irrelevant. It's a 4dr sedan literally looks identical to f30 except it's rear glass opens up with trunk. No need for technical names to confuse people more.
Jb4 = no burbles lol
Only teenagers at the local drive-in care about that.
Jb4 has plenty of burbles
MHD is better then both of them
You talk too much...
Get to the point
MHD?
4x4runr just BM3 stage 2 with aggressive burbles
MHD is better then both
They don't even support the N20 in the 328i
Wei Lue Tong oh didn’t know that. The only down grade I took was a 335🤷🏾♂️ M and AMG guy
35 min Flash time, no resale. It's worse
JSparta1 just the first time wen downloaded after it’s a minute or 2 for each map.