The BMW Z4M Roadster Is Seriously Scary In The Wet!
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Hey Guys It’s Joel!
The BMW Z4M Roadster is seriously scary to drive in the wet!
I promise you that behind my face of pure concentration and partial fear, I was smiling away. The Z4M Roadster is a tremendously fun car to drive & I feel very privileged to be able to add it to my ever growing list of cars I’ve driven! Make sure to give the video a thumbs up if you’d like to see me have another go when the sun comes out!
Nonetheless, I’m pleased to let you know that there’s more videos with this BMW Z4M Roadster coming very soon to It's Joel.
Thanks for Watching!
#Z4M #Z4MReview #MPower
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I promise you that behind my face of pure concentration and partial fear, I was smiling away. The Z4M Roadster is a tremendously fun car to drive & I feel very privileged to be able to add it to my ever growing list of cars I’ve driven! Thumbs up if you’d like to see me have another go when the sun comes out!
Hi Joel, we should organise a Zed meet in future, I'm an owner of a Z3, albeit the 2.0 straight six, but would be nice to do a video with you as it would be a great comparison of old and sort of new!
Would definitely be up for that buddy!
Looks super fun, I have the 2.5i and that’s seems quick to me! The Z4 is a visceral driving experience, a real drivers car and I love it.
A fantastic video Joel, from just watching that you can see the difference in power between the standard Z4's and the M versions, it must be one hell of an experience to drive such a machine.
It really is a great experience and fantastic privilege
Great video Joel.I agree this is a different car to yours performance wise.Beautiful car! 🏁🏎💨
. new subscriber & new to the Z4 club,,, just purchased an older 2003 Z4,( though its 2.5) ugh,,, but still love this car,,, look forward to ur various vids.... great info !!!
Great video Joel. Well done. Have a Z4MR myself and agree with your thoughts. They are fantastic fun.
Thanks John!
My MR never even comes out in the rain... Got the daily 2.0 for that.
The M was always going to be a handful in the wet. Good review as always 👍
I came to your channel for the "Five things I hate/love about the Z4" videos when considering my purchase and immediately subscribed. Keep up the good work
Thank you so much
did you buy one?
@@CarsofGlasgow sure did
Well done Joel dude. I'm really pleased the first one in the series has come out so well. It was actually a really enjoyably day for me, the long drive down to you and back home was really great, as I got to do a long trip in the car and really stretch it's legs. Was a pleasure chatting with you and your dad. Seems we share a similar sort of history with the types/makes of cars we've previously owned.
With regards to the gearbox, I am lead to believe that the clutch delay valve is the reason why it's so tricky dealing with 1st and 2nd gears. When the car is cold, I find 2nd gear to be an absolute pig to get a really smooth change. Once it's warmed up, the box does feel ten times better. The rather ironic things is, the harder and more aggressive you try and change gear, the easier and smoother it is to use.
One thing Joel and I were talking about a fair bit was if you could indeed daily my E85 M. It's for sure possible, but I personally think in weather conditions like we are experiencing here in the UK this week, it would just be so draining if you had to spend any length of time behind the wheel each morning. It's a car that does need to be respected (like all BMW's really) as it's so easy to lose the back end, even with the stability control on.
I've been really looking forward to seeing the videos Joel has put together using my car, as it was watching some of his videos late last year, that helped me make my mind up to actually get myself a Z4M. I actually only got this car in late November last year and I've only managed to cover about 1100 miles in it so far. If anyone of Joel's subscribers is thinking about getting a Z4 here in the UK, there are two very good forums. One is the Z4-Forum and the other is ZRoadster, which is for all of BMW's "Z" cars. Both forums have been very welcoming and have managed to give me some really sound advice and information in regards to owning a Z4M.
One thing I can't stress to people who want one of these enough, is that while you may be able to afford to buy one (mine was priced at just under £11,000) , you are still going to need a fair bit of cash tucked away to actually run one of these. These cars need to be looked after properly, as the S54 can be very expensive to fix if anything goes wrong. My dad owned an E46 M3 Cab until late last summer. The previous owner had really neglected to look after the car properly and he ended up with several thousands of pounds worth of parts and labour to fix a whole number of issues, including a totally new VANOS.
It was about a 140-150 mile round trip for me to do on the day and that used half a tank, yet in the 4ish hours I let Joel film with the car, we managed to get through another 1/4 tank and that was with him taking it very cautiously due to just how bloody wet it was on the roads. Once you hit the last 1/4 of a tank, the low fuel warning light comes on, warning the driver you only have 50 miles range left in the tank!
If you're a youngish driver like Joel, don't for a minuet feel like that anything other than the M will do. I have had other Z4 forum members say the 3.0 like Joel's is "75% of the performance with 50% of the running costs". The only reason why I went for the M over the 3.0, was my previous car was a heavily modified Subaru Impreza P1, with 323bhp and 330lbt , which meant for me, that the 3.0 wouldn't be quick enough. This attitude is/was wrong, as on the way to the filming locations, as I was following Joel, I was having to step on it pretty bloody quick, otherwise he could easily get away from me. (yeah I am also admitting that Joel is a quicker driver than me lol) .
Thank you so much for bringing the car down Dan, it was a pleasure to drive.
@@itsjoel Let's hope our cunning plan to get your old man to upgrade to one works muhahahaha!
Dan Allnatt dude.
Absolutely love the car. And previously like your dad. I used to have an e46 M3 but now own a z4m. The Z is noticeable better in every aspect than the M3.
Apart from the space. Which I am now in need of. So considering to sell the ZM.
@@halulapaluza My dad had an 04-06 Individual, that had about £23,000 worth of extras when new. Sadly, the previous owner was a bit of a twat and he ran the car on a shoestring, which left dad with so many problems that would always end up leading to big bills.
He is really bad for having a posers car (his own words) so he went with a Cab with the SMG gearbox. It had an after market system, I think it was just the back-box that was done, which made it pretty beefy sounding. The amount of rattles and noises it would make was pretty dramatic and overall, it just didn't feel that tightly put together, yet it only had around 60,000 miles on the clock.
Even though my Z4M has 97,000 miles on the clock, it feels so tight and well put together, so much so that my dad keeps repeating over and over, just how sorted my Z4M is. He even claims it's more well put together than his current 2015 Merc C-Class 4 door 2.0.
I'm a bit over 6.4" and have a number of spinal problems and injuries, that had forced me to stop driving for a few years. This Z4M is the first time since 2015/16 that I've had my own car again. Due to my height, when I would have the seat in what was my typical driving position, I was unable to see the instrument cluster due to the thickness of the rim on the steering wheel. The solution I found, was to recline the back of the seat way more than I have ever done for driving the car. Suddenly, I had found a position that let me see clearly all round, but the best bit was it took any compression of my lower back and has allowed me to drive for way longer than I ever thought possible (I'm waiting to have some major spinal surgery later this year), as I can typically only managed 25 minuets sat in any chair. The sports seats in my Z4M give perfect support on the sides of my back. I've been impressed just how easily my Z4M can handle longer distances on the Motorway and if I keep an eye on things, do over 30MPG!
Keep up the great work Joel, love your videos mate.
Mike 649Foxx thank you so much mate, really appreciate it!
I have the ESS program tune (specified for 92 grade fuel here in the US) and Eibach springs, and it made it even more special. Next will be the ESS supercharging system.
Spot on Joel best motor I’ve had mate loving my Z4 3litre 😂😂
I love my 2.5i :D
Another great video man! I agree its a nightmare to drive in the wet or in the dark haha!
Its like a death trap on wheels!
Great vid Joel.
The usual great video Joel cheers mate 😀😀😀
Thank you Daniel!
Looking forward seeing more from the Z4M!
You should come to Germany and test our countryroads and the German Autobahn ;-) I got a Z4M too, mainly I'm driving it on countryroads but sometimes it is a blast to release all the power on an unlimited Autobahn.
I would love to drive on the autobahn. Did 190mph in a Ferrari 488 once on the Autobahn, but never driven on it myself!
@@itsjoel You should do it, I am sure you would not regret it!
I’ve got a matching set of M Sport wheels fitted to my conv with Falken HS01 winter tyres, as the temperature is around zero right now I still get grip where I wouldn’t on summer tyres, recommend them
Awesome video! Which car feels more nimble on the back, curvy roads? I can see the 3.0 being more fun to drive on the back roads because it’s lighter and not as nose heavy as the M.
Ive got bmw z4 2.5 , but its got sport body kit lambo doors, re sprayed white, sports seats, softop, spoiler, black alloys white lip, looks pretty sick, should check it out, gonna get the back box deleted on electrical valve
Nice work once again! However there are a few errors in your review. The steering rack ratio on the Z4M coupe is slightly quicker than the cabrio- 12.8 to 1 vs 13.7. Also the airbox you mention is the carbon Evolve not revolve. Finally the sport button only affects the throttle pedal action. Sorry to be so critical but we have to keep the facts straight. Good narration and review!
Actually the sport-button only affects the throttle response (I never use it to be honest). However, great video! There’s a lot of tubers out there, keep it up you do good.
Per Eldh its so useful in the city for green lights
Awesome as per usual Joel, engine sounds amazing with my beats headphones on 😂 does the M have the sound generator maybe the sponges need taking out to improved noise? Keep up the great work
Haha thanks mate, it’s such a cool and unique sound. I don’t think it does!
Joel and I took a look in the engine bay and it seems it doesn't have one. It's actually pretty well insulated, so I typically drive the car with my drivers side window down, so I can really hear the scream of the S54 when I'm out hooning on B-Roads around where I live.
@Joel , having driven this and the Alpina Roadster S , what is your overall verdict
Super good music. I have an ESS reprogram and it's the shit.
I fancy doing a Z4 meet next year, would be good to meet up
I’m currently working down south and my northern mill town accents getting some very strange looks 😂
Great video Joel. Enjoying the content. If you fancy testing out my e89 2.8l manual m sport let me know. Based on the south coast.
Thank you Darren
The standard car has a Getrag gearbox, the ///M has a ZF unit.
Nice 1 buddy ..very interesting now I want one instead of my 2.5 e85
I know the feeling!
That's an amazing machine! I'd be keen to get behind the wheel of an M version. Now to find a friend with one ^^
You definitely should, although I think it’ll make you want one badly!
Funny how every video I hear of the M sounds so much more dramatic than when I'm in the seat.
Fantastic review & nice watch.
Like the piano black dash ..awsum
Yeah me too, it’s a winner
Thank You. I was really lucky with the spec of this car and it's history. I'm based in Oxford and it's difficult to find interesting cars for sale locally. By some stroke of luck, I found this car just 16 miles away from my home, at a small dealership that gets a lot of cult cars for sale. I'm actually only the 3rd owner of this Z4M and it's got so much paperwork/history.
When we put my M and Joel's 3.0 next to each other, you can really see the amount of deep blue my Carbon Black paintwork when compared to the pure black of Joel's car.
Sport mode only compounds the throttle imput and response. It isn't linear like when it's off. Nobody really uses it... To each their own I guess
So after all the 3.0si e85 is not that outlandish and can be daily driven even can be considered as a cruiser because they decided to make an M version of it! Isn't that true? I may be wrong
Great video mate! I’d love to drive both the Z4M coupe and roadster! As well as the Z3 shoe haha
Driver's Side thanks mate! You definitely should, they’re great. Z3M coupe will be on the channel soon too :)
It's Joel awesome! Can’t wait!!
It's Joel it’s mental how much a z3m coupe is now
@@Cornwall1888 Prices in general for M cars is steadily on the rise. My E85 Z4M in the video was listed for just under £11,000 , get if it was an E86 Z4M Coupe, you would be looking at roughly £18,000 to £22,000 for the same spec and condition.
When I was looking at cars back in Nov last year, most of the E85 Z4M Roadsters listed were all roughly around £10,000 to £12,000 , there were two E85 Alpina Roadsters up for sale at about £14,000 to £16,000 and there handful of E86 Z4M Coupes were going for the above mentioned £18,000+ . If I was able to afford an E86 Z4M Coupe, I would have gotten one in a flash, as I think they look amazing with that long sloping rear section.
This time of year is always good if you're looking to get yourself a roadster, before they shoot up in price during the Spring.
Dan Allnatt a nice z3m coupe can be £60,000 now!!!! That 5x what they were
Nice video! What about sport seats compared to standard ones? Worth the money if someone want to add them to their Z?
I personally found the sports seats in my M are more comfortable than the comfort seats that Joel's 3.0 has. While Joel was filming each segment with my M, I was sat in his 3.0 browsing the net on my phone. I suffer with a number of lower back injuries, involving the joints and nerves of my lumbar section. I've was able to do he 2 hour drive to Joel's in the M, without the slightest problem. Even after the days filming, the drive back home didn't cause me any comfort issues.
The Sport seats are really supportive, which you really need when you get on it, as the M really picks up speed effortlessly. Even if you don't have an M, I think the sports seats are pretty much a must have in any of the E85/86 models.
I'm unsure about the sport button in the z4m as it's a new platform to the e46 m3.
But in the e46 sport mode only changes throttle response. It did however firm up the steering in the e39 m5
Yeah, it might be the case that it doesn’t actually effect the steering in the M like it does in my Z4. It obviously just felt like it to me!
Would this be because the steering rack on the Z4M is still Hydraulic as opposed to the Electric ones introduced to models after . Is there another way the “ sport “ button could affect the steering ......
Suspension changes possibly ?
Seriously thinking of buying one..
Joel what do I need to look out for in terms of common faults issues?
Which version are you wanting to get? Do you want to get a 3.0 like Joel's or a M like I have?
Nice job once again! A few errors though- The steering rack on the Z4Mcoupe is slightly quicker than the cab .As well,the airbox you mentioned is called the Carbon Evolve rather than revolve. Finally the sport button affects the throttle reaction only- not the steering rack. Sorry to be so critical but want the facts straight. Cheers and good work.
Thanks Gary for pointing out
Coupe has the CSL rack and the Roadster has the standard M3 rack right?
I thought so...but some posts say no !
You need to get behind the wheel of the new one mate!! ;)
I know! Hopefully BMW lend me one later in the year, highly doubt I’ll be on the press drives in March 😂
You should apply for the Topgear/fifth gear you report what we all want to know about 2nd hand cars diverse to other cars if possible or are you biased LOL
Thanks Derek
I own one..well a coupe version..first of the stock tires are performance summer tires, horrible in the rain. That's why I changed the tires to all season...second who takes a turn in 6th gear?? I don't have the facts, but I doubt theres 1000 Z4M's in the UK..and grant it the engine and transmission was made in Germany, but the final assembly was Spartenburg, SC..Also there is no way that is stock exhaust..
I would have liked a Z4 but the DVLA gave me an automatic license in exchange for my foreign license. There was only one Z4 SMG in my price range and the owner never got back to me. :(
So I ended up getting a 330CI SMG instead.
Always time to get a Z4! And always time to get a manual rating on your license too! 👍🏻
Why you put your Hand as you would like to Shift paddle?
Don’t know, habit from playing racing games I guess? Haha
Joel, what's the music at the beginning?
Hey! I don’t know the individual name of this track, however all of my music comes from epidemic sound
Joel ..if you get a chance can you do a 2.5 v 3.0 e85 difference ..you may have to use your dad's car 👍
Sounds like a plan!
Any different to the modded one you drove??
Yes, quite different. Less noisy, softer ride and slightly down on power too. Gave me a more realistic, direct comparison to my Z4 & it is still a massive step above it!
I would love to own one
Me too!
"Like I say, I'm a little bit stupid"
Why you compare your z4 prefacelift with a facelift and more of that is an M version
Like you compare fiat multiplat with GmC suv
Because they’re the two cars that I had on the day? There’s still lots of similarities between them that people find interesting.
It's Joel you doing good keep it up
By the way you need to take care of your car a little bit like some new wheels 19´ and a JDM spoiler and it will be better looking than the M version
Nice video
Very fun in the wet. Just have to be careful.
Absolutely!
Got yourself a another Z4?
Lol, I wish!
It's actually my car in the video. I had gotten in touch with Joel late last year, as I had only bought the car in late November. It was coming across a number of Joel's videos that helped me decide on the Z4, rather than an Alpina B3 and a Honda S2000
Who the heck cares about sound, man? It's whether it runs hard and connects with one's driving desires.
Rainy reviews are useless in the deeper areas.
100, don't spin out...
Do you have a job at night and this is your day job
Lucky boy
I have a full time job Monday - Friday! I film UA-cam videos at weekends and edit late at night 👍🏻
Nice try.... keep the car in the garage when wet outside
These cars are meant to be driven!