Multi-sampling virtual instruments for the Disting EX using Bliss from DiscoDSP

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2024

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  • @senescence_ca
    @senescence_ca 2 роки тому +2

    I can't even begin to describe what a game changer this is!! Thank you so much for this video!

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  2 роки тому

      You're so welcome! Glad this was useful for you!

  • @lifeformmusic3301
    @lifeformmusic3301 2 роки тому +2

    Great tutorial Johno! Thanks for doing this man.

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  2 роки тому

      Right on---thanks for watching! Glad it's useful for you. I was beyond stoked to get this workflow straight.

  • @peterfreedive1360
    @peterfreedive1360 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks a lot. I bought bliss today 🤩

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  2 роки тому

      That's awesome! Stay tuned for a 2nd video. I'm going to outline how to work with GitHub and get the the script file, and how to edit it.

    • @peterfreedive1360
      @peterfreedive1360 2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnoWells oh man. Thats sooooo cool. I was not happy with the multisampling direct with the modul. I was searching for a alternativ for a few weeks. Couldn‘t find something until i saw your video. I‘m so happy… 🤜🤜😎😎

  • @bengineer_the
    @bengineer_the Рік тому +2

    If anyone is having trouble multi-sampling Arturia plugins, I have found that if own an Touche Expressive E/sE, it came with a VST plugin called "Lie" [ which hosted a selected VST within itself & allowed MPE mapping to what ever VST parameters you needed ]. Selecting the Lie plugin within Bliss 2.3 and then choosing an Arturia plugin from within there allows the multi-sampling to function correctly.

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  Рік тому +1

      Whew! Wish stuff like this could be easier...thanks so much for figuring this out and posting here. Much appreciated!

  • @Probbie
    @Probbie 2 роки тому +1

    Wow! Nice work Johno🙌

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks, PW. Hope it's useful for you!

  • @nikolasdove
    @nikolasdove 10 місяців тому

    I'm testing out the demo right now just to make sure it will sample Arturia plugins now since people were having problems with it before. Good news is that I get samples from my collection which is awesome. Do you have any tips on the settings for an instrument that will play forever until you lift off the note, like a Mellotron? Should I just do a crazy long duration time like 10 seconds or so just to make sure I won't run out or am I missing something with the looping cuz every time I've tried it will still just give me the duration I set but only play once, won't loop around again.

  • @michaelisvaramontgomery
    @michaelisvaramontgomery 11 місяців тому +1

    @JohnoWells Great, thorough vid! I was wondering what the benefit to sampling VST's into Bliss is, over using the auto sampling algorithm on the Disting Ex? Is there a significant difference in sound quality? I'll likely spring for Bliss eventually, but not ready to drop $99 at this moment.

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  11 місяців тому

      Greetings! As I mentioned in the video, the sheer speed of being able to multi-sample in Bliss as well as the ability to keep it all in the digital domain with a VST into Bliss is the game changer for me. Well worth the $99.

    • @michaelisvaramontgomery
      @michaelisvaramontgomery 11 місяців тому

      @@JohnoWells Ah, thanks, I watched a while back...just re-watched and seeing that's a major point. Purchased Bliss and sampled my first library, but the samples are sounding gargled when loaded on the Disting, so have to play w/ the settings I guess (strange bc the wavs sound great previewed on mac).

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  11 місяців тому

      hm. Tell me what garbled sounds like--distorted? Transferring files and using them has been spot-on for me.

    • @michaelisvaramontgomery
      @michaelisvaramontgomery 11 місяців тому

      @@JohnoWells Yes, distorted and choppy. Think I followed your settings, but will double check. It could have to do with note length/overlap, as the notes are more likely to be clean if they are struck and allowed to fully decay. Hit in succession is a mess!

  • @guysmiley7289
    @guysmiley7289 2 роки тому +3

    Logic for mac has a built in auto sampler. I wonder if I can modify the code for it.

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  2 роки тому

      ya, that's the trick--the file naming.

  • @mamakuproject
    @mamakuproject Рік тому +1

    anything equivalent for multisampling hardware instruments? (instead of plugins)

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  Рік тому

      Disting EX multisamples hardware really smoothly. It's not as fast as sampling from VST's, for sure, but it works well. I've tried it on a few friends' polysynths and it was a good experience.

  • @Quantumspace23
    @Quantumspace23 2 роки тому +1

    The guys at discoDSP who make Bliss have been working on 2.0 and are up to Beta5, this might be the perfect time to reach out to them to see what they can update regarding presets and file naming before they push out a final release? Thanks for the tutorial that opens up a new use of Bliss for me :)

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  2 роки тому

      Hey there---thanks for checking this out. I worked with Disco DSP this past summer to get 2.0 to the file naming that might be close to working with Os's python script. It might be closer now, but at the time--the betas they were sending me were not happening for this use case. We'll have to see.

  • @antinolfithierry6324
    @antinolfithierry6324 2 роки тому +1

    excellent

  • @sweevo99
    @sweevo99 2 роки тому +1

    This is very cool.by any chance is there somewhere online where EX users can share multisample libraries ?

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  2 роки тому

      I don't know of any, sorry.

  • @sbstiangil
    @sbstiangil 2 роки тому +1

    Curious, how does EX compare to Assimil8or in terms of sound/fidelity in your opinion? I’m sure you’re not using A8 for VST samples so might be hard to compare

    • @reef5651
      @reef5651 2 роки тому +1

      A8 sounds better but its not as easy to set up. You have to Midi2CV each voice for poly and theres a modwiggler post about it. Not much sounds as amazing as the A8.

    • @sbstiangil
      @sbstiangil 2 роки тому

      @@reef5651 thanks for the reply. i guess as anything poly in eurorack goes... but as far as the sound-- it sounds like worth the trouble! someday surely...

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  Рік тому +1

      Multisampling in the Assimil8or isn't possible, so it's not something I can compare really. Sound wise--I dunno....it really depends on what you're coming in with. I never felt the ass8 sounded SO GREAT. It sounded like what I was putting on it. Sorry, kind of a useless answer LOLOL

    • @sbstiangil
      @sbstiangil Рік тому

      @@JohnoWells I think it is actually possible to set up with zones-- Ohexoh made a long super helpful post on "lines" forum about this. Will try to link that:

    • @sbstiangil
      @sbstiangil Рік тому

      @@reef5651 Rossum Locutus could be a game changer for setting up poly! Until then...

  • @alexleon0
    @alexleon0 2 роки тому +1

    I bought bliss, thought it’ll come in useful. I am, however having issues with it sampling Kontakt
    Any ideas why?

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  Рік тому

      I've had good luck sampling Kontakt *depending on the library*.
      It seems some have annoying protection on. Have you had any luck at all using Kontakt?

  • @edalstrobert8628
    @edalstrobert8628 2 роки тому +1

    Hello, I hope you are well. Do you know if this will work with wav files ripped from another source or do you have to use Bliss? Thank you.

    • @ExpertSleepersLtd
      @ExpertSleepersLtd 2 роки тому

      The script is specifically for renaming files produced by Bliss, but if you have WAV files from elsewhere you can still use them with the disting. You may need to rename them. Email me or post on the support forum if you need more help.

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  Рік тому

      Glad Os answered your question. To echo his answer---no, Bliss isn't the only way into the multisample world of the Disting EX. This module continues to have a solid position in almost everything I do. Almost. LOL.

  • @sonicpetal
    @sonicpetal Рік тому

    128Gb ? what car are you using for disting I read expert sleepers recommand Delkin Devices 32GB SELECT microSDHC UHS-I (V10) Memory Card (DDMSDR50032G) to bad there's no round robin on the Bliss.. or I missed the option ? Just bought Bliss2. So many things to improve on this software :p Do you manage to use the "loop" function ? Every sample I create with loop activates does a peak at the start of the sample. Also the loop lengh seems to do nothing..

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  Рік тому

      Search this on Amazon--this is the $20 card:
      SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO® microSD™ UHS-I Card with Adapter C10, U3, V30, A2, 200MB/s Read 90MB/s Write SDSQXCD-128G-GN6MA
      Your other questions--haven't used round robin on Bliss. I think it's there. Not sure. I'd email them with any questions. They are great and respond quickly.
      I don't use the loop function. Just haven't. Maybe I should? LOL. Did you ever figure out loop length?

  • @HildegardHeimo
    @HildegardHeimo 19 днів тому

    Just want to test it and it crashes LUNA complete 3 times. In demo mode you have no chance to test it as all effects, such as envelope etc. is not active. There is not even an imprint who is behind and where they are, but they ask for a $100. Could be an interesting plugin but its asking for Russian roulette. Comments are turned off in all their videos. I'm out.

  • @alexleon0
    @alexleon0 2 роки тому

    Am I the only one? The script won't work for me.
    I think it has changed since the video was posted
    I couldnt get another python script to work for another ES module either
    Anyone got any tips?
    Windows10
    Python 3

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  2 роки тому

      Hm. Are you using the new Bliss (2.0)? That might be it.

    • @alexleon0
      @alexleon0 2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnoWells
      I am

    • @glencurtis2761
      @glencurtis2761 2 роки тому

      @@JohnoWells I am having problems running the script as well, on a Mac. I get a syntax error. I am running the newest Bliss, 2x, but am also running the Bliss2 script which I assume is correct. The highlighted invalid character was the '·' between "main" and "expertsleepers" on this line:
      distingEX_tools/bliss_to_ex.py at main · expertsleepersltd/distingEX_tools · GitHub
      I also have another question concerning velocity layers. In addition to changing the name of the script per velocity layer, do changes need to be made in the script itself to get the correct naming per velocity.

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  2 роки тому +2

      @Glen Curtis @Alex Ayriss I'm reaching out to DiscoDSP and to Os to get us a new script for filenaming with Bliss 2.1. Stay tuned.

    • @glencurtis2761
      @glencurtis2761 2 роки тому

      @@JohnoWells Awesome, thanks for all you have facilitated on this.

  • @MathewGracie
    @MathewGracie Рік тому +1

    What versian of Bliss does this work on?
    Im trying with v2.3 i get this naming when trying to save zones, Glockenspiel Original 0_C3_C3_C3_0_42.wav and the script wont work

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  Рік тому

      Hi, Mathew. I'm experimenting with the latest version of Bliss, and not running the renamer from Os---and it's working! DiscoDSP (makers of Bliss) took the requests seriously to make a more compatible filename! Try it without the renamer script.

    • @MathewGracie
      @MathewGracie Рік тому +1

      @@JohnoWells Never even though to try that, thanks!. My disting is out for repairs will check soon.

    • @JohnoWells
      @JohnoWells  Рік тому

      @@MathewGracie right on. What happened to your disting?

    • @MathewGracie
      @MathewGracie Рік тому +1

      @@JohnoWells Display stopped coming on, still under warranty so i hope to have it back soon, One of my fav pieces in my first 104 hp rack. planning the 2nd 104hp (have to buy a new case, didn't do my research on how deep the Disting is and it doesn't fit in my behringer case. I use Bliss to also make multisamples for my Zynthian and Dirty Wave. Getting more and more use of it lol

    • @MathewGracie
      @MathewGracie Рік тому

      @@JohnoWells you are right, i don't need to rename at all, My test lol ua-cam.com/video/smaPxoTTYv0/v-deo.html