I've got s12 last week, it's pretty good clear looking, no troublesome, light weight, long life battery, and necessary function. Thank you for your helpful review.
I've just received the S12 yesterday for my birthday and this video was brilliant in it's explanation on how to use it, I am now looking forward to my round tomorrow.
I have just literally ordered an S12, I have never owned a watch for golf and I cannot wait to use it, the review was fantastic and looks very easy to use as well... Happy golfer here !!
I’ve got the S62, and I bought it thanks to your on-course review! Love the watch, I never take it off. I use it to track my runs, walks, workouts, everything.
I personally don't like the measure shot feature because it shows me exactly how far I hit the ball, hahaha. Great review. Your review convinced me to buy the s12. Very glad I did. Thanks!
Gabe, you are on fire! Long and short game looks dialed in! Cool features on that Garmin! I really like that it tells you how far the hazards are and distance to lay up. Also the fact that you can move the pin around for a more accurate distance is pretty sweet! Great review!
Thank You, I will get mine on monday by post, hopefully before teeing time. Now I will be more confident starting to use it after this lesson/review 👍🤗
I have the G12. Looks exactly the handheld not watch. Played once, love it....push buttons no instructions needed. It's a small unit, perfect for the pocket. 😉
I had an S1 for years, but the strap broke and was not replaceable, so I have binned it and am looking for a replacement. I currently have a smart watch that keeps track of steps, excercise, plays music, answers calls etc, so am thinking of either getting the shotscope V3 or the Garmin s12. Your video helped me as I did not think a £120 basic watch would keep score, record putts etc which is the same as the S62 my buddy showed me today . Great video, Thanks
Good review and great to see the genuine joy of scoring back-to-back birdies. I just replaced my old Garmin S2 which did the basics but was chunkier and also a lot clunkier in terms of scoring and lacked info about hazards. My only comment is that on a busy day and/or in comps, I'll probably not use things like shot measurement and scoring as it may be a bit time consuming? 20 secs say 3 times per hole is c. 20 mins per person per round. Added to others with golf watches and laser range-finders etc it's a lot! If I was a good enough player to hit the ball within 20 yards of my target every time - rather than into the general vicinity - maybe I'd take bit longer. I find these devices most useful, really, in terms of speeding up confident club selection. I used it for the first time yesterday and the hazards feature is very useful; it's good to know that, eg, water is easily flown over or is maybe on the limit in which case, be sensible (in my case anyway). Will watch a few more of these then probably subscribe. Thanks Gabe (weather not so sunny up here in the NW of England 😜).
Thanks. Yes, in practice it's actually much quicker than it seems. You'll likely be walking to and from cart hitting the buttons on the watch. It can be a very seemless experience once you're used to it.
GREAT review! One part I'd like to know more about is the Garmin App that the watch can connect to. Is is that ALL app features are free (lifetime) except the green reading? Thanks very much!
Gabe, Your video was the most informative of the many I watched. Thank you for that! I'll be buying an S12 a little closer to the start of golf season here in Michigan. If I get a pin placement sheet before I start my round, can I change the pin placement on the S12 for each of the 18 holes prior to starting the round instead of changing it one hole at a time during play?
Great to hear it’s helpful. Yes technically you can change any hole at any time. Though you may still want to see what side of the green it’s on when you’re on the hole for more accuracy.
I just ordered the new 2022 Version of the S12. My first Golf Watch. Hopefully it works with these CT Sensors of Garmin. My Approach G80 could not really handle them…
Brilliant review mate, the question i want to ask is, is the a app for all your round ro be stored on? And do you click each club for each shot on the watch? Thank Two birdies🔥🔥
Enjoyed your review. Looking to upgrade my garmin so hoping you review the new S42 soon, as is between that and the S62. As if it has the feature for automatically taking the yardage off uphill and downhill slopes on the S42, might buy that.
A Garmin at a reasonable price. WOW. So many choices. I settled for the Shot Scope and is very happy. I know you didn't seem to like the look, but I wanted more for the GPS and tracking. Was able to retire my Game Golf tags, and now I don't need to worry if I forgot to tag the club. My choice was based on your review along with a couple of UA-camrs. Good job, and obviously the new clubs are working great. Did you continual the round and how low did you go?
Yes, I think they nailed the price point on this one. Glad you’re happy with yours. I did play 3 more holes, went par, bogey, par. Wish I could’ve finished.
Looks like a gr8 watch, I just ordered mine! One thing I don't understand. doesn't the watch know where you hit your tee shot and where you hit your second shot because of the movement of the swing? So can't it like that calculate the shot distance? I don't understand why you have to use the feature to see the shot distance when I thought you could already see all your shot distances afterwards?
I have the S12 and like it a lot. I have a problem, in playing with friends and checking distances with their watches, I find my distanaces never sync up with their distances to front, middle andback . What have I done wrong in setup and/or how do I fix it?
Great review, when I enter my score it just asks for my number of shots, not number of puts of where my drive ended up. Do you know how to change this? Thanks
Great review! And congrats on the 2 birdies. Would you know the battery life for a full charge? Can you get 2 full rounds without charging? I have a Vivoactive 3 which can get me 1 round plus only. It’s a few years old though.
LOL...the first thing I do when I get to the course is take off my watch. I hate wearing a watch while I play (if that's what you call what I do). I have always been a "passe it off" golfer....I JUST started using a range finder.
Thanks. The S12 is pretty golf centric. You will get more of that once you step in to the S 42. It will track your steps, runs etc. The S62 will add a heart monitor also
HI ! I went through all your S12/S42/S62 review. And thanks for that ! But still not sure about which one is suitable for me. I am looking at tracking all my shots with club# used + distance for each + possibility to review afterward the full round/hole map with each shot traces. I am not relying on "AutoShot" type of feature for automatic shot detection, I would prefer to secure with manual entry for each shot : Start/Used club/ measure disctance/stop. Any guidance then for which product would do that for me ? If S12 (+ garmin golf app) is enough to do that, I will buy it now. Thanks in advance for your feedback.(PS : I already have the Garmin G80 for radar usage, and I didn't find a way to store all my shots distance/club data)
Well they are very similar, but I do personally like to have stat tracking capability. So that alone would prob make me want to upgrade. I also think it’s a bit nicer form factor and probably a bit faster all around as well. Is it a must upgrade? Prob not. Would it be nice? Definitely.
Did you ever try the B21 driver? Not that you needed the anti-fade attribute, but I would love to see you demo it just to show us what it does, distance, spin, etc. If possible.
What do you do with the S12 if you are starting on another 9 holes (i.e. back nine first in a cross over) or playing a different 18 holes on a 27 hole course (i.e. south and east course vs east and west course)?
Got a s12. Love it. But what is the reliability? Played with 2 friends. One had a s40 the other one a bushnell. We compared what the distances were with each device. None of them had the same distances. With differences up to 15 yards !! Even the 2 Garmin watches were not giving same distances. Therefore yes it’s nice and helpful but reliable ??
Well you are never going to get super accurate yardages from GPS devices due to GPS margin of errors. Just as an example, most modern smartphones have an error distance between 3-5 meters under good conditions. If you need super accurate distances and not just estimates then you need to go with a laser rangefinder.
What do you guys think about the S12 vs the ShotScope V3? They are about the same price here but the S12 seems to have more features with layup and dogleg information. But the Shotscope does have the carry to and over hazards. Whats your opinion on these 2 watches?
Hi, literally just subscribed as enjoyed your review very much. I'm seriously intending in purchasing this watch, I've never had a GPS watch before, do you happen to know if the updates are free at all Looking forward a your reply Many thanks, Mauri
On this watch after each hole can I turn off all the questions it asked like how many putts did I do did I hit the fairway or miss left/right? Would love to know if I can turn that off because Am after a watch just like this without doing that after every hole
Does it allow you to select red tees (ladies in UK)? And, can you clip it to your bag and use it completely passively, read-only, or do you have to click "Next hole" every time you move to the next tee? (Thanks in advance for any answers from S12 owners.)
An update: I see from the online manual that the user can set their gender, so I guess the developers have catered for ladies tees. My 2nd question doesn't get answered in the online manual, but surely it knows when you've moved on?
I did buy it and pleased to say it works fine in sort-of-passive mode. And yes, gender can be specified in setup options, which then defaults to red tee pars for females from then on. Great!. Only quibbles are: it doesn't default to the course you're physically at, the only course for 5 miles, and, after you switch on in the car park (near the 18th green) it thinks you're on the 18th hole and doesn't then recognise when you've moved to the 1st tee. A bit of a faff to remember how to force it to move to the 1st. Hope Garmin read this! Charge lasts well.
@@LetsPlayThru Perfect, have you seen the other colours in person? The white looks sick at the video, but marine looks pretty cool aswell. Can’t decide 😂
@@LetsPlayThru I just ordered one diretcly after seeing this video. One more question, when I get onto my course, I just search with GPS out there or do I need to do something before at home? :)
I've got s12 last week, it's pretty good clear looking, no troublesome, light weight, long life battery, and necessary function.
Thank you for your helpful review.
Excellent, congrats 🍾
I've just received the S12 yesterday for my birthday and this video was brilliant in it's explanation on how to use it, I am now looking forward to my round tomorrow.
Congrats on the new watch, hope it serves you well
Just played my first round with this and it did nothing to fix my slice😂
Haha! 🤣 Clearly it’s defective!
You don't say
All that added weight on the wrist probably threw you off . You'll adapt
you bought this to fix your slice? whos an idiot... go and get lessons
Put it on the other wrist
Bought the S12 recently as I’m getting into golf but didn’t want to spend $$$’s on a watch. Your videos better than the manual, Thanks!
I just ordered the S12 on Black Friday. $150 Can't wait to try it out.
I have just literally ordered an S12, I have never owned a watch for golf and I cannot wait to use it, the review was fantastic and looks very easy to use as well...
Happy golfer here !!
Congrats Gary, hope you enjoy the experience
I’ve got the S62, and I bought it thanks to your on-course review!
Love the watch, I never take it off. I use it to track my runs, walks, workouts, everything.
THE S62 is a real treat
Excellent review. Very informational and enjoyable to watch. Thanks.
cheers,, got it and used it yesterday,, wish i had have watched your video first but understand the features far better now
I personally don't like the measure shot feature because it shows me exactly how far I hit the ball, hahaha. Great review. Your review convinced me to buy the s12. Very glad I did. Thanks!
I live about a mile from Carrollwood CC. Love that course, especially Cypress
Nicely done review! Ordered my S12 for this season. I bet you're fun to golf with!
Gabe, you are on fire! Long and short game looks dialed in! Cool features on that Garmin! I really like that it tells you how far the hazards are and distance to lay up. Also the fact that you can move the pin around for a more accurate distance is pretty sweet! Great review!
Thanks man. I’m playing the best golf of my life all the sudden. Fingers crossed 🤞 I can keep it up all year. Scratch is my goal.
Thank you for a fun review of the S12...I just purchased one and i am happy with my purchase.
Cool watch - I have an older Garmin but it still works. It's time to upgrade to the S12
Thank You, I will get mine on monday by post, hopefully before teeing time. Now I will be more confident starting to use it after this lesson/review 👍🤗
I would love to golf with you, you’re so knowledgeable and positive!
Gotta stay positive, golf is hard enough 😃
Just got it as a birthday gift and this video is all I needed to get going, thank you for this (great start of round by the way).🙂
I have the G12. Looks exactly the handheld not watch. Played once, love it....push buttons no instructions needed. It's a small unit, perfect for the pocket. 😉
The screamer!!!lol love the sound effect
I had an S1 for years, but the strap broke and was not replaceable, so I have binned it and am looking for a replacement.
I currently have a smart watch that keeps track of steps, excercise, plays music, answers calls etc, so am thinking of either getting the shotscope V3 or the Garmin s12.
Your video helped me as I did not think a £120 basic watch would keep score, record putts etc which is the same as the S62 my buddy showed me today .
Great video, Thanks
Bands on these replaceable also now. Good luck!
Good review and great to see the genuine joy of scoring back-to-back birdies. I just replaced my old Garmin S2 which did the basics but was chunkier and also a lot clunkier in terms of scoring and lacked info about hazards. My only comment is that on a busy day and/or in comps, I'll probably not use things like shot measurement and scoring as it may be a bit time consuming? 20 secs say 3 times per hole is c. 20 mins per person per round. Added to others with golf watches and laser range-finders etc it's a lot! If I was a good enough player to hit the ball within 20 yards of my target every time - rather than into the general vicinity - maybe I'd take bit longer. I find these devices most useful, really, in terms of speeding up confident club selection. I used it for the first time yesterday and the hazards feature is very useful; it's good to know that, eg, water is easily flown over or is maybe on the limit in which case, be sensible (in my case anyway). Will watch a few more of these then probably subscribe. Thanks Gabe (weather not so sunny up here in the NW of England 😜).
Thanks. Yes, in practice it's actually much quicker than it seems. You'll likely be walking to and from cart hitting the buttons on the watch. It can be a very seemless experience once you're used to it.
I have the S62, and love the touch screen, but that looks like a good entry level.
Yes, i think they've nailed the price point on this one. Really good value play.
Thanks man, got s12 for Christmas and will play in two days. Looking forward to test it😎🥳🤝
Sweet!! Enjoy
Can’t beat a birdie birdie start!! Great review buddy
Thank you 🙏
This is no review of any product. This is Gabe just showing off his game!!! 🔥
🤣🤣🤣
Thx for the great review. nobody posted a visual review on S12 in my country yet, and your review was really helpful.
Awesome happy to help. What country are you in BTW?
Japan, and this S12 was launched just recently in April here.
Great review actually showing how to use the watch was so useful.
Good video, thanks for taking the time to make it.
Thank you. You made up my mind to buy a G12.
Awesome, hope you enjoy it
GREAT review! One part I'd like to know more about is the Garmin App that the watch can connect to. Is is that ALL app features are free (lifetime) except the green reading? Thanks very much!
Gabe, Your video was the most informative of the many I watched. Thank you for that! I'll be buying an S12 a little closer to the start of golf season here in Michigan. If I get a pin placement sheet before I start my round, can I change the pin placement on the S12 for each of the 18 holes prior to starting the round instead of changing it one hole at a time during play?
Great to hear it’s helpful. Yes technically you can change any hole at any time. Though you may still want to see what side of the green it’s on when you’re on the hole for more accuracy.
Excellent review Thanks - I’m off to get one
Just bought one. Love it.
I just ordered the new 2022 Version of the S12. My first Golf Watch. Hopefully it works with these CT Sensors of Garmin. My Approach G80
could not really handle them…
Great review!!!! Just purchased mine.
Brilliant review mate, the question i want to ask is, is the a app for all your round ro be stored on? And do you click each club for each shot on the watch? Thank
Two birdies🔥🔥
Great review of the S12, thank you
Love my S20 Approach but now you got me wanting an upgrade! Great review brotha!!
Thanks so much. I really love the form factor of the S12. Wouldn't take many golf watches out on the town, but I totally would take this one.
👍👍 nice test , i think i will buy one early, even tomorow .😆
Enjoyed your review. Looking to upgrade my garmin so hoping you review the new S42 soon, as is between that and the S62. As if it has the feature for automatically taking the yardage off uphill and downhill slopes on the S42, might buy that.
Thanks so much, yes that review will be up soon
Fantastic review, many thanks.
How does the “My Bag” feature work? Does it automatically show your average and max or do you have to manually input those numbers?
A Garmin at a reasonable price. WOW.
So many choices.
I settled for the Shot Scope and is very happy.
I know you didn't seem to like the look, but I wanted more for the GPS and tracking.
Was able to retire my Game Golf tags, and now I don't need to worry if I forgot to tag the club.
My choice was based on your review along with a couple of UA-camrs.
Good job, and obviously the new clubs are working great.
Did you continual the round and how low did you go?
Yes, I think they nailed the price point on this one. Glad you’re happy with yours. I did play 3 more holes, went par, bogey, par. Wish I could’ve finished.
Do you have to record putts, fairways Etc. or will it just go to the next hole if that’s all you want.
Looks like a gr8 watch, I just ordered mine! One thing I don't understand. doesn't the watch know where you hit your tee shot and where you hit your second shot because of the movement of the swing? So can't it like that calculate the shot distance? I don't understand why you have to use the feature to see the shot distance when I thought you could already see all your shot distances afterwards?
I have the S12 and like it a lot. I have a problem, in playing with friends and checking distances with their watches, I find my distanaces never sync up with their distances to front, middle andback . What have I done wrong in setup and/or how do I fix it?
Could be that you or they have “plays like” distances turned in and the other does not.
@@LetsPlayThru had the same thing happen with mine. Do you know how to change that?
Great review!
Great review, when I enter my score it just asks for my number of shots, not number of puts of where my drive ended up. Do you know how to change this? Thanks
Is there a way to record the measured shots? Can you see them in the app after so you can get a feel of your clubs distances?
Nice play !
You seem like a genuinely nice guy 👍🏽
Have you tested out the garmin approach g12? If so would you say these two are alike and which do you prefer? Thanks
Great review! And congrats on the 2 birdies. Would you know the battery life for a full charge? Can you get 2 full rounds without charging? I have a Vivoactive 3 which can get me 1 round plus only. It’s a few years old though.
Thank you. Yes at least 2.
LOL...the first thing I do when I get to the course is take off my watch. I hate wearing a watch while I play (if that's what you call what I do). I have always been a "passe it off" golfer....I JUST started using a range finder.
I used to be bothered by watches when swinging but this new crop are so light and unobtrusive I got used to them.
Great video. I am curious about the non-golf features of the s12 as well. Does it track runs, aerobic workouts, etc?
Thanks. The S12 is pretty golf centric. You will get more of that once you step in to the S 42. It will track your steps, runs etc. The S62 will add a heart monitor also
HI ! I went through all your S12/S42/S62 review. And thanks for that ! But still not sure about which one is suitable for me. I am looking at tracking all my shots with club# used + distance for each + possibility to review afterward the full round/hole map with each shot traces. I am not relying on "AutoShot" type of feature for automatic shot detection, I would prefer to secure with manual entry for each shot : Start/Used club/ measure disctance/stop. Any guidance then for which product would do that for me ? If S12 (+ garmin golf app) is enough to do that, I will buy it now. Thanks in advance for your feedback.(PS : I already have the Garmin G80 for radar usage, and I didn't find a way to store all my shots distance/club data)
S62 will do that. With the optional CT10 sensors, the others will be able to do it too.
WHAT is the driver you were using here ? SIM MAX 2 ?
can you get steps on the garmin s12
I have the s12 and it dosnt ask me how many putt and if i hit the fairway
...hack the rest... ;) cool video, much fun
Good review! Would you consider it to be worth to upgrade from a S10 to a S12?
Well they are very similar, but I do personally like to have stat tracking capability. So that alone would prob make me want to upgrade. I also think it’s a bit nicer form factor and probably a bit faster all around as well. Is it a must upgrade? Prob not. Would it be nice? Definitely.
Can it somehow remember the distance when measuring tho shots?
How do I check the battery level?
Do you have to measure every shot on your watch to get an accurate stats on the app?
Did you ever try the B21 driver? Not that you needed the anti-fade attribute, but I would love to see you demo it just to show us what it does, distance, spin, etc. If possible.
Not just yet, but it is on the list. Hopefully can do in the next couple of weeks.
Great video, thanks! Does the S12 record shots on the Garmin Golf app to review where each shot landed after the round?
Thanks. No you would need the S42 or s62 for that
Does this watch tell you how far you have walked. What i mean will it sync to Garmin/strava saying the distance i walked?
What do you do with the S12 if you are starting on another 9 holes (i.e. back nine first in a cross over) or playing a different 18 holes on a 27 hole course (i.e. south and east course vs east and west course)?
You are able to select the hole in the menu
Can the watch measure the steps l walked and the cycling l do and my sleeping duration.
No. You need an S70 for that.
Great video. That driver though....!!!!
Yes indeed, it's nice to get home in 2. Thank you.
How is it within 100 yards?
Hey I want to buy a watch and its going to be my first one. Wich one would you recommend. Something fast, efficient, good looking and budget friendly.
Check out this vid: The Ultimate Golf Watch Buying Guide
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Awesome review
Thanks Ryan, much appreciated!
Still drooling over that putter 🤤
The Saks Parente? Yes it’s sweet.
Got a s12. Love it. But what is the reliability? Played with 2 friends. One had a s40 the other one a bushnell. We compared what the distances were with each device. None of them had the same distances. With differences up to 15 yards !! Even the 2 Garmin watches were not giving same distances. Therefore yes it’s nice and helpful but reliable ??
Well you are never going to get super accurate yardages from GPS devices due to GPS margin of errors. Just as an example, most modern smartphones have an error distance between 3-5 meters under good conditions. If you need super accurate distances and not just estimates then you need to go with a laser rangefinder.
What do you guys think about the S12 vs the ShotScope V3? They are about the same price here but the S12 seems to have more features with layup and dogleg information. But the Shotscope does have the carry to and over hazards.
Whats your opinion on these 2 watches?
If same price Shotscope because of shot tracking. For every other reason, S12.
Hi, literally just subscribed as enjoyed your review very much. I'm seriously intending in purchasing this watch, I've never had a GPS watch before, do you happen to know if the updates are free at all
Looking forward a your reply
Many thanks, Mauri
Yes with the Garmin devices updates will be free
Great video.. What would you recommend this or the G12 handheld?
This no doubt
Oh really okay. I was gonna get the G12 but you may have just changed my mind 🤔
Is it difficult to update if your course isn’t available on it?
Can you select which hole you start on ?
Yes
How can I see what time it is while playing golf? (S12)
Back to back Birds! Why wouldn’t I buy the S12.
Nice. But love my new Golf Buddy aim w10. Instant start up from any hole. Good accuracy, no fees or subscription.
I’m not familiar with that one, I’ll have to check it out
does it have a step counter or km traveled?
Where did you get the extra band
What are your new clubs
Do you need your phone with you for it to just track yardages?
On this watch after each hole can I turn off all the questions it asked like how many putts did I do did I hit the fairway or miss left/right?
Would love to know if I can turn that off because Am after a watch just like this without doing that after every hole
Yes it can be turned off
S12 watch for gulf only ?
Hi would you use the watch or rangefinder which do you prefer?
For ease of use / travel I'd go with a watch. For pinpoint accuracy I'd go rangefinder (Z82 in particular).
@@LetsPlayThru Thank You have a great day love your channel
Does the distance of your shot show up when it’s on the course screen like others or only when you’re in the measure shot screen?
Not that I can see. With this one you have to be on the measure shot screen specifically.
Does it allow you to select red tees (ladies in UK)? And, can you clip it to your bag and use it completely passively, read-only, or do you have to click "Next hole" every time you move to the next tee? (Thanks in advance for any answers from S12 owners.)
Yes you can change your tee box during setup. And you could use passively, but if you want to clip it someplace you might be better off with the G12.
An update: I see from the online manual that the user can set their gender, so I guess the developers have catered for ladies tees. My 2nd question doesn't get answered in the online manual, but surely it knows when you've moved on?
@@LetsPlayThru Magic, thanks. Going to buy the G12 now. (I was sneakily using your S12 review as a review for the G12!)
I did buy it and pleased to say it works fine in sort-of-passive mode. And yes, gender can be specified in setup options, which then defaults to red tee pars for females from then on. Great!. Only quibbles are: it doesn't default to the course you're physically at, the only course for 5 miles, and, after you switch on in the car park (near the 18th green) it thinks you're on the 18th hole and doesn't then recognise when you've moved to the 1st tee. A bit of a faff to remember how to force it to move to the 1st. Hope Garmin read this!
Charge lasts well.
How do I turn on the face light when it's dark
There is no light
Seems to take time to do all the information. The pace of play could be impaired.
Well I took extra time for sure. In practice it’s really a breeze
I have walked 18 using a Garmin watch in 2.5 hours... shooting 150 hurts pace of play far more than walking or knowing your yardages.
Really enjoyed the video, but does it work in meters aswell or just yards?? You’ll get a subscribe from me, good work!
Yes that’s a very easy switch
@@LetsPlayThru Perfect, have you seen the other colours in person? The white looks sick at the video, but marine looks pretty cool aswell. Can’t decide 😂
@@Collie991 I've only seen black and white. Marine sounds nice tho.
@@LetsPlayThru I just ordered one diretcly after seeing this video. One more question, when I get onto my course, I just search with GPS out there or do I need to do something before at home? :)
@@Collie991 congrats! You can do it when you get on course. Just recommend you give yourself 5 min before you step onto the first tee. Good luck!
Thought you had the S62??
Yes I do, I love the S62, Next vid will show a comparison of the two,
Come on bro! Thts 3 vids i watched you playin 6 holes an your -3 😂😂😂 you must be ready for the senior pga tour😂😂😂sike!!
What would you says better value for money, s12 for £180 or s40 for £200?
That’s a good question. I would probably be leaning S40 for features
Should give away the s12😅