Jesus Said THIS Was The Sign to Watch For.. But What Does it Mean?: The Mark Series pt 53 (
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2021
- I'm surveying different interpretations of "the abomination of desolation" and comparing them to the Scripture to see if they fit.
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I see a few comments asking about the possibility that the “temple” where the “abomination of desolation” takes place is actually the church because we are the temple of the Holy Spirit. Some see this as necessary because they think we can’t have a temple in Jerusalem that is considered God’s temple at the same time as having the body of Christ who is the temple. Here’s my response to that.
I think that you can have a temple in Jerusalem without it threatening our status as the temple of God. Certainly this was the case in the book of Acts. The apostles even partook in sacrifices in that temple. Those sacrifices weren’t a problem except when done in rejection of God but the temple was still the temple. Even a Preterist would have to affirm that because they see the abomination of desolation taking place in the physical temple of Jerusalem while affirming we are the ultimate temple of the Holy Spirit. I suppose you could just say the abomination of desolation is ONLY fulfilled in the body of Christ but then it seems quite odd that Mark 13 and Matthew 24 have it in response to a question about the physical destruction of the temple in Jerusalem.
@Mike Winger
I would have to say that a third temple being built WOULD be in rejection of God. The act of building it at all would fly in the face of the warnings we see in Hebrews. We have a better high priest, a better sacrifice. To go back to the temple rejects God’s Grace in Christ. Therefore, I don’t see how that would be the temple of God. As a preterist I believe “the end of the age” was the end of the Jewish age, which finally came to an end in 70ad. The time between the resurrection/ascension and 70ad would then be considered the “last days” as Peter puts it quoting the book of Joel in his sermon on Pentecost. This is an area I am interested in but definitely agree that it is one that ought not cause divisions. Thank you so much for your teaching Mike, as a preterist, I have to say, with this video and your 6 views video you were very fair and gave me some things to research about my position, I love it! Keep up the good work; and God bless.
Something I have pondered is when Jesus said "let those in Judea flee to the mountains" we are conditioned by dispensational teachers into thinking this is a warning for them to flee for safety. However what if they flee because judgment is eminent? Maybe this coincides with the description in Revelation where they hide in the mountains and want the rocks to cover them.
The third temple is already built. It's underground. Under the temple mount, by the Western wall. It's spoken about in Ezekiel 8:8-12. You can find videos of it by looking at underground third temple
Also some of the Rabbis have said they've already met with their Messiah, which we know it's not Jesus
@@ABC-zt6zd they have started building underground in Jerusalem...that could also be relavent.
Former Mormon here. You have helped me beyond words to understand the Bible correctly.
God bless Mike Winger.
Thank you.
The abomination of desolation is the mosque of omar sitting in the place of the temple which has to be removed so the 3rd temple can be built
Hallelujah!
welcome home.
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Abominations of desolation standing in the holy place. Nukes in Middle America - I would not reside in Missouri. Heads up... New Zealand is the new Jerusalem (the land of the big canoe) He is waiting for the right time to come back - here!
Ex-JW, ex-Heroin addict atheist, ex-New Age occultist - MIke, you were one of the helpers who carried me to the true God. Thank you for lighting my path. Thank you for doing the work of The Lord. We may not always agree, but you helped me, in conjunction with the grace of God, to build my faith and see a clearer, realer, more genuine outline of who God is and what his plan is for the future. Thank you my Brother. WIth all those 'exes' in my past story, I have so much to deprogram and toss in the trash can. I still have a a lot of baggage in my head that I'm working through, but this channel has been one very helpful tool that I have tapped into.
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I have lurning difficultes I struggle to understand things
I believe in God and Jesus, I ask God to help me through the holy spirit to help me understand
I think if I don't know everything if I can just do write by God and fallow him, but I am hungry for the word
You have a cat randomly walking in and out. That's a nice touch
I LOVE studying Biblical eschatology. When I wasn't saved, but knew about God, I was scared of the end. Now that I'm saved, I always look forward to hearing about the end.
Same here. I had no clue about the end at all
I pray for the end!!! Gods justice to reign down on all this evil and the return of his kingdom here on earth!!!!
Thank you lord for sending ur son to be our salvation!!! 🙏
Amen it is such a freeing feeling
Man....makes my head hurt. Watch a Daniel and Revelation seminar by the Adventists. Just do yourself a favor...only ones that make sense of all of this.
@@michaelcruson3158 If you mean Seventh Day Adventists, they are judaizers, so I wouldn't recommend watching their content.
We never get sound teachings like this in church. Just entertainment and emotional babble.
You prove that Christianity can be intellectually engaging.
I would encourage you keep looking for a church family. There are great churches but sadly it may take time to find them.
Time to leave that church and find one with solid teaching. I’m so fortunate I have a pastor that teaches like this. ♥️ Never compromises the word of God.
Put nicely....🤔
Church is mainly about coming together to worship I suppose.
It's still a very good thing!! 📯❤️👑
@@veritasmuy2407 That's awful. I've seen some terrible churches, too. Many of them don't really believe the Bible. Out of curiosity, have you tried a PCA church? It is important to find a group of people that can support you and that you can contribute to with the gifts you've received from God.
I thank God for how He wired you and your teaching gift. I have been studying the Word of God for 40 years always seeking the truth with the Holy Spirit. Discussing and growing disciples one on one. Still humbly growing through studying His word! I agree with all you are teaching and so happy you are teaching at such at time as this… all Glory to God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit… for your humble teaching from all sides but always show the truth shinning through. May you and your family be covered and blessed to continue this ministry of teaching.👏🏻🙏🏼👏🏻
I have honestly thought about the “why” these important passages matter, in not that we should only just be looking for these signs, but to make ourselves ready for the coming of the Lord, in which your statement at the end I completely agree. Please pray for myself and all the believers to hold fast to the true teachings in the Bible and be active and intentional in serving out the purpose that we were created for.
Hey Pastor Mike, I just wanted to say Thank You for all of your hard work and dedication to the WORD. I have grown and learned so much from listening to your teachings! You are truly a blessing!!! Keep it up brother!!
The best person to explain Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 is theJonathankleck youtube channel it will blow your mind brother
@@waltergomes1130 Why would we take a recommendation from someone whose theology we don't know? You may have your own agenda, as far as we know.
Just sayin' 😊
One hour later:
Just looked up Jonathan Kleck out of curiosity. Sorry to say, but he is so obviously a FALSE PROPHET (and very arrogant). I needed to listen for only a few minutes before that became VERY OBVIOUS.
Oh dear! Another one to add to the LIST 😟
Another half hour later:
Wow! Have you actually LISTENED to this guy's "prophecies"!??
I've just spent a bit more time listening to things he has said.
He is OFF-THE-WALL false!!!!
Did you know that he prophesied, "from the Holy Spirit" that the world was going to experience major catastrophes in 2012, the end of the Mayan calendar? I mean, MAJOR CATASTROPHIC EVENTS!!
I may not have the most fantastic memory, but I can't remember anything CATASTROPHIC in 2012.
Can you??
He prophesied that God showed him that the Hoover dam was going to be blown up on 11/11/11.
Finally, do you know HOW he CONFIRMS that the words he "receives from the Lord" are actually from the Lord? He uses a type of DIVINATION known as BIBLIOMANCY ( biblion = book, and manteia = divination by means of).
But what is astounding is that the BOOK he USES is a THESAURUS!!!
Seriously! He just plunks it down and opens it up and the word he sees in front of him is his CONFIRMATION FROM GOD!
Then he finds a few other words under the same heading and HIGHLIGHTS them in yellow to SHOW them to the world (on his UA-cam channel) as being THE WORDS OF THE LORD!
Surely no one takes him seriously??
Not anymore!!? Surely not!?🤪🤪🤪
Bless you brother. I espouse a preterist (and amil) position, but I truly appreciate your grace and seriousness in your pursuit of truth. This is not a salvation issue, and we are allowed to disagree, and I appreciate that you emphasize that. I also notice a lack of belittling or mockery of those who see it another way, which is very appropriate and brings glory to God and Christ. May God bless you with a richness and fulness of the presence of Christ all your days!
Amen! Thank you for all your dedication and hard work in bringing us God’s Truth from Hs Perfect WORD! I really enjoy your humor, sarcasm, and wit and how you always do so with a loving, non judgmental way! It is a true pleasure to study God’s WORD with you! Continue to be blessed for you are a blessing indeed!
We all must spread the good news while we still can. Hurry , he is on his way
I concur
My mom used to nudge me and say "Jesus is coming. Look busy!" It may not be funny but it always made me giggle.
@@jillcooper6371 I say he is on his way get busy too...lol...its funny and oh so true....maranatha.😀
@@warrenrodgers7544 yup. I'm excited.
Where are they...?..... He came and got them......... You could go any second
Mike , I've been involved in teaching the Bible since the 80;s , You are so much a light shining on a hill , agree with you about 99.% of the time, the truth of gods word shows deep in your heart , and you share it so well , you are such a blessing, Steve
Dear Steve,
Did Yahweh install bilge pumps in the Ark to keep it from sinking in the raging seas?
@@JamesRichardWiley Didn't need them. The ark was watertight.
All this scatologic talk always remidns me of the great hope we have for the end times, past the tribulation. Thanks, Mike.
There is a great falling away amongst the Jewish people towards evolution, Hinduism & yoga, many sit in meditation chanting I am declaring themselves as THE I AM!
And gentiles
This is a passage of scripture that I have struggled to understand. I have asked pastors in the past about this scripture and never given such a clear well researched answer. Truly appreciate all the hard work you do. Thank you
Scripture is written human thought.
All books including the The Holy Bible
are man made.
@@JamesRichardWiley where is your evidence for that claim? just a feeling is it?
We are the Temple of God not the one made in jerusalem that not holy and Jesus Christ is the High Priest order of Melquisedec and Eternal
Yes we are the temple of God. You say youre God in it, its an abomination that leaves you desolate
@@AA-vl3gu God is SPIRIT and we recieve His Holy Spirit when you are born again in Water and Spirit when you die to yourself and God gives you a New SPIRIT , His Holy SPIRIT
Is what happens when you get Baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ , you recieve His Holy SPIRIT So be it
Thank you so much for all your teaching. So blessed to have found you!!!
I love the way you gave all the info and views that leaves the lord to reveal it to whom he will. Please continue this way God bless
Thank you for going over more passages and all the history areas more than anyone I have seen yet. I wish I could find the information like you do.
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I have had to listen to this three times… And I’ll probably listen a couple more times. I’m so thankful for the hunger God has given me for his Word. Thank you, Pastor Mike! I am so grateful for you. 📖🙌👑🎚⚔️🛡
You always address the topics I been trying to understand. Thank you!!
Thank you Mike for this extremely informative presentation. Glory to God.
Love watching your videos. Simple, straightforward and to the point. I'm learning. Stay Blessed!
Blessings Pastor Mike, and Thanks 🙏 again for your diligence. I am truly Blessed and appreciative of the secular history that you provide, in support of Gods Holy Word.
May God greatly Bless you and this God inspired service.
Thank you for this. Very thorough & thought provoking. I just found your channel. I’m very glad I did!
God Bless Your Ministry ❤️
Thank you so much. I am new to this, and I am trying to understand everything. I feel that I am not going to have enough time to learn all that I need to know. I only know that I truly want to love as Jesus loved.
Kelly Ann, just find Dr. Barnett on You tube. He teaches the Bible so clearly...I listen to him every night. ( He does not ramble)
@@juderobinson433 Thanks!
Neville Goddard teaches what proves true in my experience! The kingdom of God is in the hearts of men.
You will never understand it all. The most important fact to accept is found in 1Corinthians 15:1-4. That is foundational!’ Other truths will come as you read and apply what you do understand. Your passages as a born again believer are basically Romans -Philemon. Paul’s epistles! These books are for the Age of Grace which is what we are in today! We are no longer under law as written, but the law of God is written in the hearts of the believer! We walk by faith; not by sight! No signs; no wonders: those are specifically for the Jews! Faith saves you and faith keeps you! Without faith it is impossible to please God.
@@TheDianeC Yes. It's as Mike said, 'already,' and, 'not yet.' One doesn't necessarily cancel out the other.
Look at our righteousness: We are POSITIONALLY RIGHTEOUS in Christ through His blood, we are BEING MADE RIGHTEOUS by sanctification through the Holy Spirit, we will be PERFECTLY RIGHTEOUS when Christ comes to meet us in the air.
ALL of these are true, but not all at the same time.
The kingdom of God is where Christ is obeyed and honoured as king - which is IN HIS CHURCH. The kingdom will come on earth when Christ returns to REIGN ON EARTH for a thousand years.
Fascinating stuff. Thanks for all your hard work on these teaching vids, Mike!
Somehow it grieves my heart to hear of this. It makes me distraught and trembling.
I think that's because you know in you heart the day is close and the times are going to be well there's no word for it bad very bad
Focus on Christ. Obey God and He will protect you.
Corona C=3. O= 15 R=18 O=15 N=14 A=1. 666 you figure it out !
Can relate. We must focus on Him and not the waves.
Thank you Mike for putting this together!! It really helped me to better understand some of the finer details. At the end of the day I believe the same thing you do but didn’t really understand what the other guys were “hanging thier hat on”. You’re The Man!!! I am sure I’ll be watching it a few times 😎
Mike, I just wanted to thank you for all of the time and effort put into studying and sharing/teaching with us. My wife and I are raising our young children and these times have been so strange in regard to current christian doctrine/theology. Were stuck in an awkward sandwich, close family (brother/sister with young children) on one side that (recently 3yrs)) dove head first into reformed theology (calvinism), and on the other side close personal friends (another married couple our age, with young children) that have gone the opposite way into progressive christianity (following Richard Rohr). Its a close circle for us, it's literally like a mirror of the USA right now. All that to say your teaching has been a significant tool to help out in discussions and to help us stand strong without being swayed by every different doctrine being pushed. Praying for you brother.
Nick, I just want to say I pray the Lords blessing and guard over you and your family, especially your little ones. Thank you for standing in the truth and may your faith grow stronger. I pray the Lord will so use your light in the lives of those you care for and love. In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ I pray.
@@thestraightroad305 Amen
Praying God uses this time to build your faith!! I pray he gives u boldness and courage to stand against the evils ur sandwiched between !!!! Stay strong brother and don’t be afraid to declare Jesus is lord of lords king of kings!!! 🙏😇
You should also check out David Pawson as well..
Everyone needs to check out the Jonathan kleck youtube channel its a must
Thank you Mike from New Zealand. I appreciate you and your inspired, concise teaching. God bless you and guide you as you stay close to Him.
A kiwi! I’m from Southland in New Zealand and want more and more kiwis watching Mike’s super fruitful biblical content!
Thanks so much for all your research and courage! God bless you in Jesus Christ. Sorry, for the short comments.
I love listening to you teach. You have such a heart for Jesus and a way for articulating these tough questions that we believers (And non believers) may have. Yours is such a fruitful ministry!
You explained this very well!! God’s Word is truth…
Thank you for your work it's much appreciated :-)
Wonderful teaching Mike, God's in control and it will pan out in the end regardless of what view we all have or believe to be correct, God bless.
HI MIKA 😍 so nice to see her. Just adds a bonus to your teachings. Thank you so much Mike, the work the Lord is doing through your videos is life changing. Bless you!
I am learning so much from you. Thanks
Thank you for acknowledging Luke and giving that explanation. I've have been confused by that for a long while.
Great video Mike; as a Preterist, I appreciate the approach you took. I do have this one question concerning your view.
The Futurist view states that the temple needs to be rebuilt in Jerusalem before end-time events can take place. My question to them is what would the purpose of rebuilding the temple be? The obvious answer would be to reinstate the Old Covenant sacrifices. According to Hebrews, those sacrifices could never take away sin; however, Jesus's single act covered all.
...every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, .... 14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified. (Heb 10:11-14)
What is more likely everything was fulfilled in 70 AD, or that a system of sacrifices that never worked in the first place needs to be reinstated?
I think the whole point of the tribulation and end times is to convince the Jews who don't recognize that Jesus in the Messiah, that He is in fact the Messiah. So right now Israel is still expecting their messiah (who will end up being the Antichrist) and so they build a temple (they still believe in sacrifices because they believe they're still under what we know as the Old Covenant) and then the Antichrist will demand to be worshiped in the temple. So the temple won't be for Christians and it won't be honoring God at all. I hope I understood and answered your question. Sorry if you already knew that or it wasn't about what you were asking. God bless!
@@abigailmartin1 You described that very well. This is all very new for me, but that seems to be the best explanation.
You Just mix new covenant(quoting hebrews) with one sacrifice, with still doesnt believing jews who think they need sacrifices.
So in depth, I need to rewatch a couple of time while taking notes! Great study, and comforts me that the Lord is exact in what He says. I look forward to the days of His arrival, His Love, His Mercies, His Grace, His Judgement, His Power, His Awe, His Majesty. Glory to God.
I totally agree with you Brother, on the abomination of desolation.
Thanks for this explanation.
I thank the Almighty God for this understanding.
Fascinating teaching on something that I have never properly understood. Thank you Pastor for your ministry and research.
Ok watched the whole video... great work. thank you
Warnings precisely like the one in Mark 13, are why I simply cannot fathom how someone naturally derives a pre-tribulation understandings from scripture. In fact, the entire exercise of eschatological prophecy in scripture makes nearly 0% sense if you believe no one will be around, to whom it matters, when the prophecies events occur.
I tend to agree. though I believe that there will a be a "Noah's Ark" type of situation that Christians can choose to follow and be protected during the latter half of the tribulation. What this is, Im not sure, although Im leaning towards the "woman and her seed being led to safety" combined with Jesus telling us to pray "to be found worthy to escape these things". That there will be some place e can go to be safe from the antichrist for 3.5 years. I suspect it wont be a hospitable place, and a lot of Christians wont want to go... It be a big leap of faith moment.. The Two Witnesses, or Elijah may inform us of this place. FWIW, total conjecture on my part.
Ultimately I dont really care if someone is pre, mid or post trib (In whatever form that takes) but I tend towards post trib. Your salvation doesnt depend on it directly. But I worry for people who are die-hard pre-tribbers, because they will have a crisis of faith if that ideology turns out to be incorrect.
@@JasonAdank There will be no place for Christian believers to hide. Only sinful Christian believers will go through the Great Tribulation reserved for evildoers. God rescued righteous Lot and Noah before utter destructions, and He will rescue 'perfect' Christians who are ready to enter pure Heaven. We are to "encourage one another with these words." Presently, we are going through the "Birth Pains" foretold by Jesus which are only a prelude to Tribulation Times. Jesus will come at the end of the Birth Pains, and before the Great Tribulation for those left behind. He will come again on the Mount of Olives to keep the human race from utter destruction. Some will get to know God and repent during His millennium reign on 🌎. Some will not and will go with Satan, when he comes to collect them!
@@Filippa698 Too bad that there are as yet no perfect Christians and that all true believers still wrestle against sin.
Nothing in it makes sense without the rapture. The Bible says we are not appointed to wrath and will be caught up to be with him for the wedding supper of the lamb. It mirrors a Jewish wedding but instead of 7 days its seven years. This is the time of Jacob's trouble and the abomination of desolation takes place at the third Jewish temple. The 144,000 that are saved are 12000 from each tribe of the 12 tribes of Judah. Then we ride back with Jesus to Armageddon which couldn't happen. God focuses back on Israel in that time and we are no longer in the same disposition as now.
Love how you wrapped this up ~ the struggle we have in two areas. Comforts and pleasures that cause complacency and love of the world, and difficulties and pressure to conform to the world to avoid persecution, and question God’s plan and goodness. I may have embellished a little. I always think about the 2 doctrinal pitfalls of legalism and lawlessness, but I love this more practical application on overcoming and staying true to Jesus.
Man you've got me listening to an hour long, indepth Bible study....and learning something....and liking it. Gee thanks. I hope you're happy with yourself. 🙂
I was just thinking about this concerning the "drag in church" videos I am seeing going around. We are literally praising pride in the houses of God. I don't know that this is the abomination of desolation but it has to be close. Pray and pray hard for repentance for delay is great mercy.
I understand the prophecy concerns the temple in Jerusalem but all things are foreshadowed as warnings for those who will be warned
Sometimes we make it more difficult than it needs to be... we’re so busy looking that we don’t see it!
Amen. Be still and know...
Yes, the Bible does say something about the simplicity of Christ.
We are so busy looking that we miss it. Having eyes to see but cannot see. Ears to hear but cannot hear. The word is Spirit. God is spirit. Only the spirit can reveal the true abomination to us. Wisdom not as the world gives(which is full of confusion and debates) but from above!
Wow! What a blessing! Please pray for me. I am struggling.
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Thank you for the videos mike you help us a lot❤
You have just explained much of what I didn't understand. I've had a futurist view as well but many things I didn't fully understand and my church is saying most has already happened, which I couldn't see in scripture. So Thank You!
the gentile paul was with entered into the temple thus making the abomination happen. as gentile entering into the temple uncircumcised is a abomination to God. now the Kingdom of God is here. as it is Inside of us as Jesus said.
This was extremely well done. Thank you for this Mike. I completely agree with the view that you see to be true. It certainly makes the most sense to me. Your work on this channel is very important and a great tool for those of us still learning. God bless.
Interestingly, both Jesus and Paul seem to say the Church will be around to witness the "abomination of desolation". That would seem to argue against a pre-trib rapture.
„And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.“
Acts 1:9-11 KJV
In like manner: in peace for His friends, His children, His Church.
Post tribers believe in martyrdom (which is a work...) for the church, but Christ will return to gather His church before the time of wrath...
@@dominicwinterberger1058 - exactly BEFORE the wrath - AFTER The Great Tribulation - as stated in Matthew, Thess and some other scriptures.
@@dominicwinterberger1058 A work is something that you do, not something that is done to you. Martyrdom as such cannot qualify as a work. What would be a work would be to hurt yourself but this is not what people are arguing will happen.
@@dominicwinterberger1058 The passage from Acts doesn't tell us when the Rapture will occur. The Rapture occurring before the time of wrath could mean before the 7 bowls being poured out. That would place it sometime in the 2nd half of the tribulation.
@@alexmarysaint2523 the work is resisting the mark of the beast...
Thank you for the video ^_^
Hope you are all well and resting in Jesus saving love + grace ^_^
Blessings friends ^_^
Love your teachings. I belong to Calvary Chapel in Richmond Virginia. I am so blessed to have found a church that teaches directly from the Bible. It feeds my soul! I am hungry for all credible teachings increasing my understanding of the Word. Thank you so much for your teachings.
You definitely have a gift of teaching.
Thank you Mike! These was a solid teaching and it causes me to study further. I have leaned toward pre-wrath, but after 30 years of study, I haven't settled on any view. God may surprise us all. I'm just ready to go home!
Thanks for this information. We needed it
Thank you for your clear teachings.
God bless you bro. This is the truth I found years ago and have been teaching but which has earned me negative words from brethren. They claim it amounts to downplaying the return of Jesus.
Thank you Pastor Mike for a wonderful study!!! God Bless you abundantly!!!
Appreciate your HOLY BIBLE Apologetics coverages. Thank you!
Thank you for this Mike
So glad you're doing this. Very impressed with how well you know this material.
Thank-you for this teaching. It is very informative. I really was glad that you talked about Hanukkah (22:00), because I have heard speculations of its' application here, and you have a good answer for that. This would have been a nice place to add that Hanukkah is also mentioned in John, chapter ten as the "Feast of Dedication", just as another interesting tidbit.
Thanks Pastor Mike. This particular passage from 2 Thessalonians 2 (and the testimony of the angels in Acts 1:11) is why I personally reject a pre-tribulational rapture. Blessings to you and yours.
I am a Wait-and-See-ist while I serve my Lord.
Ps I really appreciate the work that pastor Mike puts into his Bible study while I may not agree with everything that is taught but it is a blessing to see him exercising his God given calling and gifting
You say that you don't agree with some of what he teaches, which would seem to indicate that you believe that he is teaching false doctrine. If he is, does it follow that he still has a "God given calling and gifting"?
@@tomwardle8446 Just because he disagrees on some topics doesn't mean he thinks Mike teaches false doctrine. For example I recently watched Mike's video about tattoos and his conclusion is that it isn't wrong to have or get one. However, if you're considering getting one as a Christian then you should be mindful of people who do think it's wrong and get it in a spot that is easy to cover. Now there are a lot of people who disagree and think it's wrong to get a tattoo at all, but it isn't a topic that is core to what we need to believe in order to be Christians. Therefore, for some topics it's perfectly okay to disagree, and still think Mike is following his God given calling.
@@lori10155 actually everything matters, as your comment inadvertently admits. You mentioned what I call, "the stumbling block principle". Tom. 14:21-23, 1Cor 8:7-13
Whereas I like Mike's calm demeanor, and the fact that he is trying to present what he believes to be the truths from the Bible, he is teaching dangerous falsehood. I think the reason he has so many false teachings is because he comes from a perspective of a religion that teaches that God's Spirit will give "truth" that contradicts the Bible, even though it is the very same Spirit that inspired the Bible writers. That is an extremely dangerous and glaring falsehood.
@@tomwardle8446two years later, I wonder if you would say the same things...? You neglected to cite where Mr. Winger was unbiblical, and seemed to wish to be argumentative for argument sake.( An.impression left by word choice which of course isnt always accurate).
As I read through the comments, I'm honestly curious about your motivation then, and your growth and study since then.
@@cristiewentz8586 I do not wish to be argumentative. I don't remember if I commented more than once. I am unsure which comment you are replying to. I did find one of my comments where I listed several things that are unbiblical. I also mentioned that there was one thing that I agree with him about. Perhaps you didn't see that. Whereas I appreciate his demeanor, and his sincerity, I find that there are things that he has gotten wrong. He never claimed to know everything, and neither do I.
There's some signs that's for sure... Praise and glory to God. God Bless. Jesus Christ, is the name of God. He lives. Praise and Bless God's holy name.
Love your work Mike!
Excellent info Mike 😊 Thanks
Cute kitty! Maranatha brothers and sisters.
Yay! I loved the Mika sighting! Also, your view makes the most sense to me. Thank you for all that you do.
thankyou for teaching this stuff clarifying a difficult topic i will subscribe your teachings are feeding my soul i am unable to get to church your teachings speack to my heart God bless you sir
great teaching! Thank you
I love how the “weakness” in the futurist view actually just made a stronger case for it! 🎉👍🏼 that was super helpful, Pastor Mike, thank you so much! I believe the same way, but you really helped to connect the dots here and I am so grateful!
The Abomination of Desolation is when the Pope moves his throne to the Temple of God built by Constantine in the 4th century, which is inside the facade of the Dome of the Rock. Sun worshipers used Temples. The Hebrew people used the House of Yahweh which was destroyed in 70 A.D. Zion is the Righteous place. The name Jerusalem is a lie.Christians ,Muslims and Jews will share The Temple of God since they each have different Sabbaths. Muslims on Friday;Jews on Saturday; Christians on Sunday. The Pope will oversee it all.
@@framboise595 But have you done word studies on the original Greek and Hebrew to see how the original meanings and context can shed light on the passage? (I have not personally, but the study of others here has helped me with this and other passages of Scripture.) What are your beliefs here?
Don’t forget 2 Peter 3:7-9:
But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
In your biblical view, how does this passage not support the futurist view?
@@framboise595 so out of curiosity, do you fall under post-mil? I think we do our best to understand these things, holding loosely to our own understanding because God knows exactly what he means. I know that all of that is important, but I also know the Pharisees thought they knew exactly what it meant to about Messiah, and they couldn’t have been more wrong. I really don’t want to fall into that trap! I read, I try to understand, I try to see if there is partial fulfillment, complete fulfillment, future fulfillment, knowing that I see now in the mirror dimly. And I trust the Holy Spirit to enlighten my heart along the way as he sanctifies me (and you!🥰) through his love and work in our hearts. ♥️ I don’t think any of this makes Christ a liar, though. Our lack of understanding is on us, not him.
Glad I happened upon this today. Very good study. I just realized I have two weeks to catch up before you get to part 54. Yikes!
I know! I’m still catching up!
MIKE you are on point with a lot of things 📯🙋🏻♀️💪
Awesome series!
That gummy bear jar has some candy missing from last episode lol
The attention to detail tho 🤣
He must have the spirit of self control. On my desk the darn thing would be empty by now
another great example of Mike’s superlative teaching, He takes a difficult topic and then takes time to honestly present varying opinions.
Excellent job illuminating a difficult subject. More End Times please!
Excellent study. Thank you.
That was interesting hearing about Chuck Smith at the end. When I was a kid, we attended his church, or maybe it was just one of his offshoots, but most of my memory is after we left that church. A portion of his congregation left, and formed Calvary Bible Church in Milpitas, CA, which has since closed its doors sadly.
Nothing important here. Just trudged up an old memory lol
Seek God’s will daily to grow the kingdom.
Mark 16:15🕊
1 John 1:8-10🙏
1 Peter 3:15💕
So helpful
Thank you Mike.
I think we all need to remember that just because a prophetic scripture has a preliminary semi-fulfillment, doesn't mean it's been fully or finally fulfilled. One can be both a Preterist AND a Futurist (partial Preterist?), because one can stipulate and agree that the partial fulfilment happened in 70 AD, while still waiting for the final fulfillment in the Tribulation period.
This is exactly right! In my mind, the partial fulfillment is to validate that these words are reliable and show us another echo of what is to come.
I agree with your concluding thought; about how wrong they were about the Messiah coming. We don’t really know, but when it happens, we will. Until then, we can only do the best we can, but it’s arrogance to think we can know 100% how it will happen when only God knows.
Why is being confident equal in your mind to arrogant?
Would it be too much to say I love you brother and how God's wisdom rests on you. I did a study myself on the 'abomination that causes desolation" and by letting scripture interpret scripture it can be understood. And I totally agree with this teaching you provide on this topic. But I do believe that the Spirit of God gives us understanding also. Thank you for your diligent exegesis of the scripture.
Thank you brother
This generation shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled.
That meant the Generation of Christians... they are still here...
@@sevenswords8781 Would you read Matthew 23:36 the same way?
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviewsthat I would understand in context with the rest of the verses being spoken, he is at this point referring to the Jews and the Temple.
there is two discourses going on, one in short term one is long term.. This text is talking directly to the Hypocrites of the day, not the followers of Jesus.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews so wait what do you mean than? You think our generation right now or do you think that these things already happened? I’m just trying to understand I’m trying to really start understanding the bible more
@@jackfoot1257 in my opinion, “this generation” means the generation living at that time. The phrase “this generation” appears frequently in Matthew and so far as I can tell it always refers to Jesus’ contemporaries. Many people would disagree with me, however.
Mark, thank you for this and your other videos. They made their way to my Google feed a few days ago, and I've been watching them since then. I'm really interested to hear your view on the rapture - if and when it takes place. I think that most Christians take the view that it is pre-tribulation, so we don't have to worry about any of this stuff - we will be elsewhere. However, if we are here for it, we should start to prepare. I'd love to hear your view on it, and a critique of the opposing sides, which I think is your strength in these videos.
Thank you brother!!!
Thank you.
The Romans came and surrounded, but then retreated, Christians fled, then Titus came later and destroyed by siege.
Nailed it. Exactly.
The Jews were warned in 601 bc of the 70 ad seige in Ezek.4:6
GOD bear the sins of Juda 40 years then the Iron pan surrounded the Holy City. The iron symbolized Rome and the pan a wall of Roman shields. 31 ad✝ to 70 ad fire and death. The 390 years begain in 454 bc marked by a blood moon tetrad on Passover ending in 63 bc with the Pombey iron pan seige. The tetrad also starts the count down to Messiah cut off 483 years to the day and hour in 31 ad.
AND set up a Roman temple to Jupiter in the Holy place and sacrificed a bull there.
He kept saying the temple was only destroyed, but not desecrated, it was....clearly desecrated.
@@roonbare2769 this was the Roman's? Like the RCC today? There is way too many interpretations of scripture today!
@@gingercameronfordcrouch7057 what are you saying?
I appreciate your time on this. If you look at Jewish judgement language the preterist view makes more sense in many verses. I'm a partial preterist personally. I encourage people to read Gary demar and Kenneth gentry. Also, read the first chapters in revelation. It says these things must shortly take place. Here we are 2000 years later. The time revelation was written is debated.
So so so very good thank you