A Diversity Conversation: Working in Hollywood When You're Not White
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- "America is racist. I mean, we were founded on slavery. It's never been really addressed, and the ramifications are everywhere," says producer Stephanie Allain.
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It's funny when people say the film industry doesn't have a race bias... Did people forget a sony executive email hack reviled a executive saying casting Denzel Washington in this new action movie was a bad idea because a film with a black lead can't & won't sell overseas... D.Washington can sell movies people will go to a movie with him in it... The Sony executive didn't see Washington's resume but his skin color...
THATS THE PROBLEM PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
that's not about race if you look at the numbers movies with black leads don't sell in international markets, George Lucas was saying this when he was making red tails and people wouldn't give him money and they were right the movie didn't do well. Hollywood is about making money first and its been proven that rarely films with black leads make money, its all about the💵💵
+kris lanc Your right hollywood is only about making money... Red tails failed because it was a bad film not because the leads was black but the story was trash (good actions scenes). The equalizer did 90mil international sales. "taken" (2009) did 81mil international sales. I feel a solid movie can be sold to any audience. The race of the leads don't matter. Making a film is expensive & the sure thing always gets funding.
+kris lanc Fast & The Furious has several Black actors and it's biggest market was China. So, it isn't really true.
Dude! I brig that up all of the time. They straight up said that they have an issue with a brown face i the lead but seem to have no problem with flop after flop with a lead white guy. it's crazy.
They even push that bull despite After Earth and Fast and Furious killing it overseas.
kris lanc even if that is true though, these white directors and people who are able to should try to STOP this bias in the industry exactly by casting black people and other POC more
did most of these commenters even actually watch this video or did they just see 'diversity' and started spouting off ignorant comments
+imsirius !!!! THANK YOU !!!!
+imsirius That's just what I was thinking. They didn't watch it.
+imsirius The minute someone says "diversity" someone has to start shouting about "reverse racism"...which isn't a thing. It happens every. damn. time.
"We should be reflecting the audience, because that's who we're creating culture for" If that alone wasn't enough to make you leave the video or comment on how fucking stupid this "diversity in the arts regardless of talent and merit" is, then I feel sorry for you. Not to mention he says it while displaying Alejandro González Iñárritu among the nominees for that year, you know ... cause there are so many untalented mexicans in the industry ripping so many very talented black americans off.
This was a very informative talk.We need more diversity in movies.
+Yawo Elevn we need more good movies, diverse or not.
+Yawo Elevn no, skin colour is not a relevant attribute to a good film, unless it's an out of place use
1SaBy that's what I'm saying. If it's relevant to the story then they need to be of a particular race, if not, then let the best actor take the role.
+Yawo Elevn No we don't, you're an idiot. Diversity isn't needed whatsoever.
+Ruairoquai racist piece diversity.
I am a Black person from Trinidad and I know this is none of my business but what about Native Americans?
Pauline Mark baby steps
We need more Native Americans in movies
william carter Everyone descended from Africans but that knowledge does not cure racism. My point is there is no representation of Native Americans. The panel speaks about Blacks, Asians and Latinos. But what about the original Americans?
Love you Pauline for this question! I really do! :-) If only Will Smith and people like him talked more about it....
Nobody gives a shit about them. When the race wars finally do break out it's every swinging dick for themselves.
The crazy thing is, the Asian Denzel DOES exist! He just doesn't get cast in the lead role. I know so many asian actors who have had supporting roles who are hot. And why are there only 3 people on the panel? There should be at least 5...
Scheduling and who wants to do it?
+Nydia Byrd The Asian Denzel - as far as I'm concerned - is Tony Leung. Sure he's only acted in Asian films, but those Asian films are nothing to sneeze at. Look up In the Mood for Love. And Asians make their own films in various genres, and have influenced the films that Hollywood has made.
+Nydia Byrd All good points.
It's not enough to be hot to be Denzel Washington, don't be silly.
CA Hall I thought you would go with Ken Watanabe or even Russel Wong, Will Lun Yee, Brian Tee or some other names whose faces have popped up in American movies and tv. .
These individuals are not only aware but they're so informed and are creating conversations that are relevant, vital and a necessity. We definitely need more asians, latino(a) and native americans in film. We need more world perspectives!
Such a Fantastic Conversation. 2 Years later from this Discussion 'Black Panther' directed by Ryan Coogler starring a Black Lead with a Predominantly Black Cast has grossed 1 Billion dollars worldwide.
Very interesting and important conversation. Even if there's no studio system in my country im interested in producing films and helping artists and their movies find their audience. Watching this is inspiring, thank you. Also Marc Bernardin is a fantastic host, miles better than Stephen Galloway. More of him in the roundtables please!
+Sofia FP +1
Also point should be made about whiteness of indie movie scene and Sundance in particular. Why do white indie filmmakers cast predominantly white actors in any roles? Average Sundance movie is a drama about middle class white people. Why dont they do color blind casting? I guess there is major issue at play i.e. segregation of american society - look at Oregon, NYC, even Brooklyn - white people in one place, black people in another place. And when indie filmmaker doing his (her) debut movie, it is often about personal experience and things and people you know and these fillmmakers (if they live in Oregon) only know other white people. Its ike situation with Lena Dunham.
robertwill23 so is the director of black panther racist for hiring only black actors?
is Hollywood racist? like asking: is USA racist?
Now Marc is a host
+Sokka2Me Geeks ARE taking over! :}
Do we have the rights to Harriet Tubman ? #DEAD lmao
I'm all for diversity, but I hate when they retell a story and swap the race, that's not helping that's lazy. Having writers of color that are good at their craft that can produces stories that don't fall on stereotype, would be a great advantage. I as a person of "color" who's hispanic I cringe when I see hispanic/latin misrepresented. What's the point of including diversity if they're reinforcing stereotypes
I think one of the issues is that Hollywood executives seem to be separating the audiences into categories. I think one big step toward equality in Hollywood would be to look at everyone as equals with different stories. I don't think that will happen unless there's new blood in Hollywood.
It is certainly ableist, I am a singer / actress wheelchair user from birth, & we are nowhere in a conversation about diversity!! We are the largest minority, cutting across all lines of distinction ethnicity, age, gendar, sexual orientation / gendar identity, & social strata, yet we are represented at a rate of 2 percent. Cripp Face , or Crippin up is a common & accepted practice. These roles are highly coveted. Done well, ( debatable, given that no one on the project is actually disabled ) career advancement, awards, & recognition are garanteed.
I am now almost 49 years old, I auditioned in NY for 15 years. In that time I cannot count the number of stairs I climbed, dragging my wheelchair behind me, to audition for the role of a wheelchair user! An audition, commonly held on the third floor of a building with no elevater!! Me, showing up, to the utter shock of many a casting director. We aren't even supposed to get to, the table, let alone take a seat! Finally, you would be forgiven for thinking that all PWDs are white, if you just looked at the miniscule, poorly written, representations offered ( except Speechless ). Speechless is the first to really get it right. INTERSECTIONAL ISSUES REMAIN, but more representation is needed in general, before we can even have that discussion!
I was never even considered for roles where disabilty was not the focus, Teacher, Neighbor, Secretary, Boss, ansilary character roles that make up a community.
Thanks for posting this. As an actor I always want to see the conversation that you want to have with other actors, or producers or director. And not be audience driven. It’s like having a college course watching all the Hollywood Reporters round table conversations. It’s is really a learning experience...
Really enjoyed the honesty without rage here. Made for a very informative fly-on-the-wall education for those of us watching.
the problem is that there isn't enough good roles being written and or given to people who aren't white.
Given? How about finding actors good enough to earn the roles through auditions instead of being given roles because of their colour, unless it's necessary to the plot.
bgizew not sure what happened with Fantastic Four but it can be applied to any industry.
Great talk. Very smart and funny people. Light years away from the black-people prototype we see in most movies. Hope that it creates some change.
I hope that Black Sideways is literally called "Black Sideways", PLEASE!
Chucho! What is Sideways to begin with, I keep wondering lol
It's a 2004 Alexander Payne film where Paul Giamatti and Thomas Haden Church take a trip to wine country, and drink wine and ruin their lives for 2 hours. Everybody went NUTS for it during award season (and went APESHIT when Paul Giamatti wasn't nominated for an Oscar) but I can't stand Payne's films. I hated "The Descendants" and I strongly disliked "Sideways", although I'm hoping "Election" is better, everybody tells me it is.
Awesome! I'm going to check it out and join in on the outrage lol. I have to say that I am a fan of your work as well. I just saw the short film MUTE, but I'm really curious to see Velociraptor. The teaser is shot well and I'm intrigued about the story being told. Where can the full length be seen ?
Oh wow, thanks! I made "Mute" when I was in high school, lol, that was AGES ago, and the teaser for "Velociraptor" on my channel is the first rough version without color grading or sound or anything, check out the real one on the TLA RELEASING channel or on Vimeo. The movie is available on DVD in the US, the UK, and France, and also through Vimeo-on-demand and Dekkoo.com :)
Also, check out my other short films on my Vimeo profile (homecoming), way better than poor ol' MUTE, haha. Thanks again, man. Greetings from Mexico.
This conversation is the most productive one among previous THR talks! It would not have worked if the hosts cannot relate to what minority movie makers have experienced in their life. Everyone has the right to talk about their experiences because they are real to us. Don't you tell me that racism doesn't exist in Hollywood or anywhere in the America because the oppressed know where they stand and some of them wake up mad. The reality of minorities is a continuous yet ever-changing shadow of history. As we demand for change don't forget that things aren't going to change over night. It will take years, decades, or longer but don't give up.
Yes, Hollywood is racist. Black people have come a long way, I love it and I respect that. Now, where are the Latino’s, where are the Mexican´s nominations for the Oscar? Where is a real Mexican actor/actress whose won an Oscar a Mexican with real Mexican roots and ancestry in Mexico. Mexian nomination which led to winning an Oscar. I love people form the UK, yet there’s more of them on the Oscar winners than Americans, according to me, correct me if I’m wrong please. This is like, for example, Billy Porter said on Hollywood reporter: ¨I can’t play a straight character but a straight actor can play a gay man? ¨ White people playing Asian ¨yellowface,¨ Mexicans ¨brownface, black people, ¨N¨ face, as some biased called it. The inequality is vast. I said ¨long way¨ on my first sentence, well, in human history, it shouldn’t had been so ¨long¨, we should be thinking and saying: it is a NOW way for our present.
13:36 so freaking true! Im so glad he brought this up, great discussion nonetheless, this conversation was LONG overdue.
I'm gonna keep pointing this out and hopefully someone will explain it. Why women AND minorities or women AND people of color.
I bring it up, because in most instances when something is about "a woman" or someone is talking about women it's a white woman they are referencing like the women nominated for Oscars this year. Also, when discussing an issue like gender pay equity and how women only make 79 cents on the dollar that's what white women make, most women of color depending on their specific race generally make even less.
So when the Academy starts to bring in more women, what kind of women are we talking about. Is it going to be all kinds of women or are women of color going to be lumped in with men of color and continue to be marginalized.
Sad thing is, the Sony hack showed us, no, it confirmed what many had been saying already that someone black at Denzel's level wasn't beyond the conversation about whether they would play well in foreign markets.
Also the question no one seems to be asking, how or why would Asian countries that don't have many or any black people develop a negative perspection or prejudice about black actors, and not white actors who are objectively just as different.
Okay, while it's sad that he had to write his pilot about white people there is also this, an Asian man was able to write white characters, like Shonda Rhimes and other writers of color, well enough that it resonated with white audiences. So, why then is it so hard for white writers to write characters of color with that same resonance.
+Tebigong101 first the industry will try to add women and women of color with equal wages as men. They may past a law that assess the value or the employer or compares there relative values. It a hard argument as acting is like sports, talent and performance is related to value or pay ... Meaning a male NBA player makes more than a female WNBA player because of the demand, both males and females equally support the NBA. Justifying the lower pay for limit WNBA wages due to less demand. So the film industry could argue the same scenario males in bring more audience when franchised content is not involved.
Second Denzel is great but agent and exces control opportunities. Can he add value was the Sony question
The Asian counties have negative views of blacks by what they see about blacks in film & tv. It's a cycle
Here's another one regarding rape:
A forces sex on B=A (rapist)-B (victim)
A offer sex to B, B agrees= (AB)=(C)onsensual sex
A forces sex on B, B out powers A and forces sex back.... This does not equal reverse rape..... Maybe BDSM
But reverse rape is not a thing ...lol
There's the equation for him.
Ava DuVernay was called to make Black Panther and she left :( I was like "NOOO". Right now genre films are ruling the box office, and the small directors studios are picking up to do the big films have at least have a Sci-Fi/Fantasy on their portfolio.
I would love for color people and women to start doing more of those genre films, instead of doing only straight up dramas over and over again. It is a very ignorant thing to say by the moderator to degrade Black Panther because it is a superheroe film instead of a "serious" film.
Guillermo Del Toro is a Latino but his voice is not into making dramas about latinos, his voice tells him he needs to do monster movies, sci-fi stuff, and still every time you watch a Del Toro film you can say it comes from him and no one else.
Who knows if right now there's a black kid somewhere who loves Captain America, and Iron Man and Black Panther and when he sees that Ryan can make a movie like that he will feel inspired to do it too?
Ryan Coogler making Black Panther is the best thing that could happen to him. Follow Spike Lee's career? No. please, No.
+Nelson Awesome comment man, Oh and I've been that black kid who was into Sci-fi I watch Anime, I love geeky shows like Community, I listen to Graphic Design podcasts and the list goes on and on. One of my most favourite super hero movies is Watchmen, If Black Panther is on that level I will die of absolute pleasure!!!!
Robin Takundwa Thanks man! I really think that we should strive to have a Black James Cameron, a Black Christopher Nolan, A Black Ridley Scott, instead of another Spike Lee. The same for women.
Jennifer Kent did The Babadook and that movie is a amazing as a movie not as "a women movie" or "a movie made by a woman" is just a good movie overall. And I'm dying to see what she does next. We need more women and people of color doing genre films. James Wan and Justin Lee are kicking it! more should follow that example.
I want Ryan to reach Nolan or Spielberg levels. Not Spike Lee ones.
Watchmen is really good! I needs more recognition. :)
+Nelson I agree with everything you said, especially the spike lee part. I feel like ryan coogler's gonna be that black director who finally breaks the mole, and go beyond only making ''black films'', and make films that are universally acclaim, and for all type of audience's. when I found out he was doing black panther I was so happy, and if that movie is good like his last two than he has an amazing future ahead of him.
+aug22boi Yes! I hope he can achieve that level! It would be so amazing. If we keep things separated they will stay that way. It is time to break barriers.
Would love this conversation done now
The moment when u realize that the game is rigged and not in your favor ! hahaha
There isn't enough diversity in Chinese movies
+Monsignor Well the difference is China is a monoethnic country, the US is not.
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what are you talking about? who the hell did I bring into this country that I moved into 13 years ago?
You should take your white guilt complex to a bernie sanders supporter because I don't give a flying fuck
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oh and even if I did, why should millionaire dark skinned actors be entitled to to nominations in an award ceremony just because there are part of a large group of people that are a part of the country and are the distant relatives of some people who were slaves 200 years ago?
I seriously don't get it, is the Oscars about recognizing talent or feeding victim-hood complexes?
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"there isn't enough diversity in Chinese movies" isn't something answerable by "The chinese didn't go and enslave people and took them from their homes, we did" you literal maroon 5
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oh obviously! the Americans are all guilty of Original Sin against black people and therefore black people must be equally represented proportionately to their population size relative to the US. They should just pull black people off the streets and force them to write screenplays because that's how precious they are!
wtf the fuck is this guy saying Rita Moreno won an Oscar in the 70s, doesn't she classify as a latina?
I could be wrong but he said lead actress, Moreno won't best supporting actress
jleon That's right. He gets off on a technicality.
Honestly, you don't have to be the same race as someone else to not be satisfied that other groups aren't being represented. My circle of friends has always been diverse and when certain "groups" are missing, I feel it.
Great Video Guys. Thank YOU
This is for the people that simply say its just a trophy.
Listening to this conversation is awesome! And it makes me more exited for Netflix idea of Global tv. Would really love to see Netflix make something like the new 'The Wire' but set in China (or somewhere I've never been or seen much of). It could be really cool to see.
16:25 Ang Lee not only is an another Asian Oscar winner but makes beautiful films combining eastern aesthetics with western stories (Hulk never happened, you imagined it)
Mark is almost unrecognizable without Kevin Smith standing next to him.
+popeye697 Dressed up also.Almost didn't recognize him. lol
This was a good discussion. Nobody was playing victim, there was nuance, they were aware of the fact that they weren't necessarily representatives of the entire "minority club" in Hollywood, and they didn't come off preachy or morally superior. I couldn't really poke a hole in anything they said. Kind regards, a white guy.
This is absolutely awesome. So many jewels dropped here.
Why do so many scream for diversity in Hollywood yet they tolerate little or no diversity in the executive suites of the MPAA studios? Here's your answer in a movie not "coming to a theater near you:" ua-cam.com/video/evYyDsmSzdo/v-deo.html
Sorry but 1 asian oscar winner? you are clearly only talking about actors. You are discounting the work that asians have done and won Oscars for and it makes you look bad.
Yup Brynner, Ben Kingsley, Haing S. Ngor, Miyoshi Umeki, Ang Lee, James Wong Howe, Peter Pau, Richard Chew, Tom Cross, Timmy Yip, Sanzo Wada, Bhanu Athaiya, Emi Wada, Aiko Ishioka, Dimitri Tiomkin, Ryuichi Sakamoto Cong Su, Tan Dun, A.R. Rahman, A.R. Rahman Gutzar, Reuse Pookutty, Doug Chiang, Hayao Miyazaki, Akira Kurosawa, Teinosuke Kinugasa, Hiroshi Inagaki, Chris Tashima................Want more? there are more and if there are more, it's because of the great work people do for films, not just actors. Eat your one sided statement, carry on and do better next time.
What a great conversation....thanks
I was told almost 50 years ago by Chris Albertson, author of the biography of Bessie Smith (jazztimes.com/features/tributes-and-obituaries/jazz-and-blues-historian-chris-albertson-dies-at-87/) that having been in meetings I would never attend and having heard conversations I was unlikely to hear that "the industry" has an agenda of "perpetuation of images" designed to maintain the status quo. Will that change over time? Everything changes over time. The questions are, "How much time does any one of us have? And, are we willing to wait?" If you are waiting for massa to pat you on the fanny and bring you into the big house, there will likely be a price to pay. What did Public Enemy say? Burn, Hollywood, Burn!
This conversation is lacking in diversity...of opinion.
half of fat man on batman!!
Thanks for this enlightening discussion!
step one, call white people racist
step two, complain how white people don't invite you into their inner circles
step three, complain of marginalization
Great candid conversation!
Facts and the numbers prove it . Why the black host only have 60thou views but the other videos with white actors on front have millions! Deck is so stacked
See think of it like this, the oscars are facebook and if u see everybody is on it and u want to make something like that, u dont go about bashing facebook and asking them to let u in or whatever u simply make a twitter, or a tinder or a vine...simple. I think the asians and latinas understand this just black people.
Memberships are about Peer to peer like any other organization. Its 2022 how far have we come?
The Meg is a great example of that awkward, pandering-to-Chinese-audiences american film
I hope that white people, especially those with ‘power’ and influence, watch and understand these types of stories, and their importance.
A very interesting, engaging, educational and entertaining discussion. My thanks to all in involved.
This was fantastic!
THR's YT is kicking butt this year. Thank you.
Iñarritu got nominated.... He's not white persay. People forget it isn't only about blacks.
+TheatreofSymphony Yeah but then someone might say "Birdman" and "Revenant" are about White men, not Mexicans. Although to be fair "Amores Perros" was nominated for Best Foreign film.
+TheatreofSymphony How many latino leading men/women have you seen in prominent american movies? East asian or middle eastern? It's truly so sad that we keep watching the same types of stories with the same white protagonists.
+TheatreofSymphony He's a white Hispanic. He's most definitely white.
We know this, it just that as they said about jon boyega in the Star Wars poster there's a extra degree of obstacles that blacks face
I agree with this 100%. The only thing that i think was a little insensitive is the comment of being a "White dude who wants to be a white lady" because that's singling out another minority group of individuals who are trying to fit in and feel welcome more than any other group of people in, I can guess, the world.
Other than that, in general, I completely agree that it's sad that the Academy is filled with old white men who base all the nominations on what old white men like. It's going back to the question when casting - does this character have to be a man? Why can't it be a woman? And why does this man have to be white? Why can't he be Asian, Black, Indian? If the only quality of the character is that he has to be a man what is stopping casting directors from hiring someone who is an amazing actor in a minority race? We shouldn't be casting people just because their a minority the same way we shouldn't be casting them just because their white - it should be based on talent.
+Moira But the actor in The Danish Girl is a straight male. I don't think he would have said the same thing about TANGERINE.
This is GREAT!!
Yul Brenner was Russian, so that would make him more asiatic anything. I believe that Asians should be more than fighters in films. We need more lead Asian actors in dramas & Romantic films as well. Also Rita Moreno won an Oscar for best supporting actor in West Side Story! I've always known that one.
Hollywood presents a country going down the drain
honestly i would have loved this interview if the basis wasnt that the oscars didnt have any person of colour nominee...its just soo annoying that people think that because they are black and they made a good drama movie then they automatically deserve an oscar...like that is soo fucked up, if u want ur culture to have something as celebrated as the oscars then make ur own and all ur resources at it...
Again this is silliness that's called segregation all races having there own entertainment awards shows. If I'm American and live in the USA I can just go make a new USA or branch off from the USA or make a black Asian Latino usa
Only Two Asian Males have won Best Actor in a leading role screen legend Yul Brynner and Ben Kingsley, but the late Dr. Hiang S. Ngor won for Best Actor in a supporting role!
Great Artist of color have more opportunities in television or online streaming services. Paradigm shift will take time to occur! Bruce Lee was the last major actor to appeal to all ethnicities, he achieved the American Dream of making it big in both television and cinema!
Every culture has heroes, it is just the matter of giving them the right presentation to appeal to America's diverse population and diversifying the voters of the award giving body. Not to mention verify that person has watched the movies given to them to consider for making nomination in each category!
Otherwise the awards prestige diminishes and lacks credibility!
Great performance or excellence in writing exist around the world, but the Academy needs to expand its scope of artists to contend high profile awards!
+CaviteChe !!!! NEWS FLASH !!!! Ben Kingsley Is a WHITE BRITISH MAN!
+Jonathan Nyeko Ben Kingsley is actually part Indian which in turn makes him Asian
Just to fact-check: Star was made more than double of the Graduate domestically adjusted and internationally the graduate is not even on the list of the top 50 (also adjusted).
The good director Bill Duke has two biopics coming out soon - about Nat Turner, and Joe Louis. But will anyone see them?
From minute 13 to minute 15, it says it all.
Ohhhh, Now I know where I've seen this interviewer from. The Fatman on Batman YT channel🔥🔥🔥🔥Ayeeeee. Anyway, I would love for Hollywood to give Justin Simien more opportunities. 'Dear White People' is one of my favorite movies of all time. A great satire.
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Shouldn't have this diference between white and african-american wolrd all of us have the same needs, histories to be told i'm from Brazil from the northeast from a town named Natal, a filmaker named Gabriel Mascaro who did a movie named Neon Bull talk a lot from our reality.. I adore this movemente and union the african american comunity.
If THR hosts another diversity round table, I hope to see Latinos, differently-abled etc. people on the panel. Great discussion though.
Like Oscars have ever been fair to anyone.
Just check out "Best movie of the year" since 70's, and every year there are nominees that shouldn't been nominated at all.
When he said blatant and awkward I immediately thought of The Great Wall with Matt Damon. . . .If you think that movie was a flop look up the international box office!
This conversation was so refreshing and invigorating i just can't even describe it any better! This sit down conversation between theses Producers has put the current obstacles as well as solutions of more diverse yet still great and commercial film in perspective. Wonderful video all around!
"is hollywood racist today"? *shows picture of Jack Nicholson from 1976*
I was with everyone until they said reverse racism or black against white racism doesn't exist. It's hard to see eye to eye with someone that unreasonable.
Shoulda had a white person on this panel
They were behind the camera
Miyoshi Umeki won the Oscar for Sayonara. I believe she was Japanese
I want more like this. Only know Marc from Fatman on Batman, but he is so good here.
Marc Bernardin should moderate more panels. His questions were sharp and had depth.
Why not build yourself as an entrepreneur and pool together investors and have your own independent studio?
+Jeffery Thompson Because that model of Capitalism died long ago, after Globalisation and the Tech revolution. Making the film is the easy part. Promoting it it's the problem and it's almost impossible without corporate synergy.
What Pedro said right think about the piece on the monopoly board once all the property is bought up you can only try to get hotels to maximize your income and hope players will land on your property(=buying your product). You can't create new properties you have to assimilate to the ones on the board.
Pedro Guida Can you give me some examples where you feel that type of capitalism died? Where are you from by the way? Thanks for your reply.
the shade, Oh My God! ..."it's just a white person who did a thing" xD
i love this conversation i feel like it was one of the most honest and informative conversations from the hollywood reporter .... loved it
Marc, I like you more when you're with Kevin :P
Justin was about to say 'shit ton' and corrected himself. Ha.
I don't understand why the host dismissed Carol as "white lady likes white lady" when the discussion is about diversity and they mentioned before that there was a need to include people of different sexual orientations as well.
EDIT: Also he dismissed The Danish Girl as "white man wants to become white lady."
+Mikael Dean Well, two straight white women are playing gay women. The conversation might be different if those roles were occupied by two gay women.
Their implying why don't you search hard for the real thing, lesbians or trans people to play those roles, as the story suggest
so gay people can only play gay people? That's ridiculous. Sexuality is internal and can be played by any actor because thats what acting is. However race is external and thats where whitewashing comes from.
Mikael Dean Just found out that Sarah Paulson is gay. But alas the movie isn't about her.
there's never been a black cinematographer to win an oscar.
Good to see a well balanced conversation.
The Revenant isn't just about a "white dude who fights a bear." What an ignorant thing to say.
All everyone needs to do is make the best content..
Great conversation.
crying
nah. enough with the handouts
What? Marc is black???
Mark!!
+joneshugh OOPPSS!! Marc!! :-)
Marc!
Does he think Ride Along 2 should've been nominated.... HAHAHA
No he said he doesn't want to make Ride Along he made Dear White People which is excellent
+KilarahRH He was making the point that he wants to make other movies beside a "Ride Along 2" and he doesn't want to be pigeonholed.
Loved. It.
I hate it when people say "Oh we have more Chinese viewers and the market there is growing so let's cast more Asians or the majority of u.s. population is white so let's cast more whites." What it essentially means is that they cast Asians for Asians, whites for whites, blacks for blacks and Latinos for Latinos. Why do we have to act for our own race? Why can we act for everyone? I'm an actor and I'm not acting for Asian viewers only. I'm acting for every single individual on earth to enjoy and get something positive or worth remembering from my work. I know this for sure that if I give a performance that speaks to people's hearts they will like me and watch me no matter what I am. The system and the process of casting and making movies in Hollywood is so messed up and designed to cause racism and segregation. It's about who we are as humans. It should never be about what we are. They need to cast whoever is the best, not based on color. Color blind casting is the way to go as far as casting goes but People need to wake up and realize that we are all human so when we make movies we make movies for everyone and the roles should be able to be played by every color. It's so easy to understand.
exactly
As a minority, I'm disgusted by this victimhood lazy ass mentality.
If that is what you think this is about, you clearly didn't watch the video, therefore you have no clue what you're talking about. It's sad when such a simple concept has to be explained in depth, when people could just do their research and pay attention, and they might actually grasp the concept. Like do your freaking homework, before you assume dumb sh*t.
Exactly what Ben said they just discussed a clear situation where a deserving female minority won a award but was over looked and another males was given Jurassic park. A Clear example of exclusion
Paradigm Shift Omg you're an idiot. Everything you're saying proves you don't a brain, because the more you say, the dumber you sound. Which is you're not worth having a conversation with. We're lazy, but you can't even watch the video and try to understand, because you would rather stay ignorant? You're a hypocritical moron. Point, blank, period. Have a nice day.
Shut your mouth degenerate.
Very important conversation. I think that the narrative of what artist of color have been trying to get out has been marginalized by the media and the Smiths. We should be more upset at the studio heads than the Oscars. And instead of a Boycott we should be more interested in a sit in. No more running away from a situation in which you won't be missed.
When I go to the supermarket there is more dark chocolate represented than white chocolate. It's not fair!
Try both and you wont notice the difference.
This was a great video once again from THR. But I have to say the guy who made Dear White People . . . I disagreed with a lot of what he said. He said it's impossible for a black person to be racist against a white person by the textbook definition. That's wrong.
racism
noun rac·ism \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Full Definition of racism
1
: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2
: racial prejudice or discrimination
So yes, black people can be racists. Also he acted like he was discriminated against because he had trouble getting funding for his movie. But the movie was called Dear White People. Imagine if it was called Dear Black People or Dear Gays etc? It's an incendiary title and it's supposed to be. So he shouldn't be suprised if some people don't want to be associated with it. There is a reason why most studios make "safe" movies. Plus the movie deals with race relations in the US and how many people outside the US would be interested it that when he was told his target audience would be outside the US?
Also I was VERY disappointed with the fact there was no Latio present. They are the biggest movie consumers after whites and yet there was 2 black guests and an Asian? I thought the interviewer was great. He let everyone talk and added some interesting comments. I just don't think that particular guest added much because it was obvious he was prejudice against whites.
yeah i mean if anybody is getting fucked over is Latinos, the biggest minority, and you don't see them bitch about it. black people are 12% and have all these famous actors and movies about them.
+kris lanc Latinos do bitch about it, as do all other minorities, and they should. Don't try to discredit black peoples legitimate concerns by comparing it to others.
+harveythepooka robothugscomic.tumblr.com/post/102407911970/new-comic-ive-had-this-one-sitting-in-my-to-do
Where did you get that definition, generally racism is define as a racial group institutionalize in power over another. That's the definition their using, the majority in terms of race is empowered over another the minority, minorities can be racist because they don't have a established institutions. There is only one outcome live a negative multiples by a positive equals only a negative.