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I know the bike is "heavier" but you hands down look 100 times better on this bike than you did the yeti. Keep us posted on how NOBL customer service goes on the wheels! I agree with a few of the other comments about maybe more tire pressure or even though heavier a tougher casing? Rad on Canyon to give you the difference back! Says a lot about their customer service for sure! That bike now for under $3000 is almost like a pre-covid deal!!!!
there is also the option of an insert, I smashed a set of enduro rims and swapped them for some trail rims during the pandemic and with an insert I've had 0 issues, massively helps with tire stability, lower pressures and rim protection.
@@martinhaba5445 foam inserts for the tires, they do a few different jobs but the main ones are protecting the rim allowing you to run lower pressure and the second ome is supporting the tire side to side helping negate tire roll.
Just the frame is 1,5kg difference :) btw slx is great, shifting under load is better like with cable sram gx or x01. Im going to rid of my GX drivetrain, which is garbage and put slx instead. Also brakes are great. Using 2 pistons slx on my xc bike. SLX drivetrain is 30-40% cheaper like GX and weights just 100g more. slx is by far the best value for money.
@@theuglydumpling4772 yeah, slx cranks is same weight like XT just 10g difference. deore is so heavy. Best combo is slx cassette , cranks and xt shifter and deraileur.
Get over the weight thing and get Cushcore - at least for the rear. I found it not only protects the rim, but stiffens the sidewall at lower pressures. So my cornering speed increased.
Not needed for Bentonville, just run a decent trail rim and slightly higher pressures. you generally want faster rolling tires due to the lack of downhill. Lower pressures are just gonna squirm on the berms there (remember Bville is like 90% flow trails)
All great info. Thanks for sharing. Seems obvious that the wheel set, and less rotating mass, makes the greatest difference. Even more that just the static weight savings.
I highly doubt that a CushCore would've saved the rim in this case. I busted 3 rims myself, carelessly just letting the bike plow through rock gardens. Need a combination of heavier duty casing, tougher rim, more tire pressure, and tire insert, IMO.
@@BryanKeller724 CushCore, with semi-low pressure (21-23psi), and EXO casing tires = cause of multiple busted rims for me. CushCore, SG plus sized tire with relatively high pressure (20 psi for plus is quite firm) = cause of busted rim (plus tires are notoriously bad for bottoming when plowing over chunky rocks). SG tire with no insert, and 27-29 psi, so far so good. Not even rim strikes. Felt like I lost something, but I forgot what that something is. Tried riding an old bike, and it felt flimsy and was stopping to see if the tire pressure was low due to squirm. Don't miss the low pressure, and feel more emboldened to venture further from civilization with this level of reliability.
Nah it wouldn't have saved that rim, he took an ultralight XC rim through a rock garden at full send, results were predictable. He should see if NOBL will let him upgrade to the TR35 for his warranty replacement.
@@Varaxis After killing 2 Ibis S35s in a year I just went all in and built a set of DT Swiss FR560s, on EXO+ tires at about the same pressures you run, zero issues even through high speed rock gardens at full send.
You just need to run a stronger sidewall. It looks like that Dissector is an EXO. No one should be running less than an EXO+ in rocky or rough terrain.
So how much did you spend on upgrades to have a bike that's no lighter than the CF7 version that costs only a few hundred $ more than the AL6? (and comes with Sram already, and probably won't crack the rims)
I would surely accept some more weight in the wheels in trade for not having them break like a plastic toy. That g-out after the rock garden should not have been enough to flat a tire much less break a rim. I hope they have a better model than those.
The TR32 is a light XC rim and I don't know if I would even use it for gravel. The TR37s are for enduro or AM and I can say that mine have held up better than any alloy rim that they replaced. In NOBL's lineup, that would probably be the best tool for the job.
Yeah… like others have said those are XC race rims. Not the rims for that kind of riding. Different story if he threw some inserts and good tire pressure in there. Was the rear shock unlocked? Lol
I have no interest in carbon rims for a mountain bike. Makes the ride less comfortable and anyone who claims carbon is more reliable than aluminum is just wrong.
Coming from an older FS 26er it was surprising to me how heavy a modern long-low-slack bike is with larger wheels, dropper, and beefier suspension; which led me down the weight saving path as well. One easily overlooked item is the fork through axle. Fox weighs 115 gm, OneUp weighs 61gm, and It's also one of the cheapest items per gram of weight savings you can get!
Part of the weight increase is a trend towards installing more durable components and accepting the increased weight. Weight weenieing anything outside of an XC race bike is usually a lot of money and a lot of broken parts
for an enduro bike that is pretty ok starting weight, you going from trail/XC to enduro is a whole new experience, weight doesn’t affect how well you can master a trick it is the process of repeating the trick, but upgrades are upgrades
Those wheels should not have failed on that rock garden. Maybe try Cush core in the rear? Makes the ride feel much better unless you prefer weight savings over performance
Your riding has greatly improved it really surprised me. Sucks with the rim, I guess this is one of those moments in which one questions if Cushcore would have helped.
The Noble wheels breaking like that definitely helped me to decide to keep those "heavy" aluminum rims. Carbon rims seem to not have the same lifespan/durability as carbon frames.
Been through 2 slx derailleurs in the past year. Just ordered a deore replacement which will hopefully prove more robust and is easier in the wallet. Weight isn't a priority for me
The price drop made me sad. I had saved up a lot to get this bike as it was one I've had my eye on since the European release. I got an email from Canyon about the 125 price drop 3 months after my purchase but they denied me stating they only do 30 day price match. I really didn't expect the price to drop so soon and I would have waited the extra 3 months if I knew! Then I could have made these awesome upgrades too! I guess I should foresight next time since Canyon usually release models early to UK and US at a delay... lesson learned 😥
I got mine on discount, barely at the red line of calendar.. And as there was issue with shipping/card.. price went up when i wanted to buy again.. And they honored 1st lower price. I didint know in case you buy lets say 5000$ bike and it goes to 4500$ within 30 days of your purchase they will refund you with 500$. Do they give credit to buy their stuff or actuall refund to the bank account. Do you know ?
Hi, I am under your weight goal on my Mondraker Foxy carbon 2019. Some of the things which helped: Non plus components hubs - multi engagement rathet, ebike ready but significantly lighter than industry 9 (86g front 169g rear) Berd spokes. I built the wheels myself, though its not for the faint hearted but Berd can build your weels for you. the spokes would come down to 80g total and are lighter than water Enduro speced wheelset weights 1460g with ALU rims (to avoid the rockgarden experience you ve had) fox transfer SL post at 340g kcnc cassette at 320g, compatible with Eagle and has a more even stepping with a 9-52 range. Reminds me of the protottype AXS cassette Selle italia corbonio SLR, if you choose the correct shape the meager padding is actually sufficient (130g) I also got myself a 4iiii powermeter, but stuck to the xx1 crankset with absoluteblack oval chainring (420g) xx1 derailleur with Hopp carbon parts 200g and kcnc pulleys (this is way overboard and makes the derailleur more fragile plus is not a great value for money BTW) you could also save a lot by running lighter tyres, DHR/DHF combo with EXO skin save you some 200g compared to what your bike is wearing. You could save an additional 100g if you go DHr front and back and have only a 2.4 width on both, but you are compromising on rolling resistance and somewhat on downhill speed XTR SPD pedals with a titanium axle 260g, the axle is only 50 euros extra plus getting your hands dirty tubolito spare tube on the bike, 48g (people do carry spares, so this does count in. wolftooth toolset, chainbreaker and tubeles repair stowed away in the handlebars, 133g altogether Giant CO2 pump stowed away in the fork tube 133g On the road weight with a bottle of water (the 900ml fidlock) is 14.5kg, this is on a bike with 160mm front fox 36 and 150mm dxp2 back travel If I switched to a more recent frame, an extra 600g would be saved by that switch I could save another 300+g by switching brakes to trickstuff piccola with KCNC titanium rotors, (currently sram code R) In other words its achievable to have the 13.6kg with water, tools pump, spare tube, running tubeless with muckoff or stans, oon alu rims, tubeless repair kit with pedals on, lights on, co2 pump and a small handpump, but it requires a lot of DYI, but you will be able to get enduro spec on that weight and definitely upwards of an extra -1kg for a 125mm travel trail bike (fox 34 fork -500g, lighter tyres -300g, carbon rims -100g, lighter frame -400g)
You can also try a sragura, using a guide ultimate as your lever. Just need to change the seals. I can sehr you the links to the mineral oil compatible seals If you want to.
Great video! Any chance you can mention what product you were using to cover all the tire logos? It was only in the video for a couple of seconds. I was thinking maybe it looked like dress shoe edge dressing, but not sure. I hate the logos on my tires, and want that clean all black look. Thanks!
i put the dt swiss fr560 in the rear. heavy but it's the only rim i trust. i have seen every single other wheel brand fail miserably. it's a good feeling to know you'll give in before the rim does😂
Hey Evan... I have the Spectral 125 CF7, since I've had it I have a bit of a rattling noise coming like from the front of the bike. Cockpit, fork? I don't know. I swapped out the stem and bars and it seemed to reduce the noise. But now I think I'm tracking the noise to the internal cables bumping against the frame when riding? Is there any feedback or recommendations you might have? Thanks!
Well the Acros headset has a plastic race that is pretty much pointless. I had a rattle too and replaced the headset and it went away. Not sure if the carbon frame uses the same crap headset though
Why did you whack the slx crank off?! I think you may have forgotten to rotate the chip in-between the pinch bolts and that was why it was hard to remove.
What did you use to cover the logos on the tires?!! The bright yellow letters on my Maxxis tires doesn't look good with my color scheme. Petty, I know.
They also probably have a max weight limit too. Running 2.4s on 26/27mm ID rims, terrible idea. Adding an extra 100grams for a rear insert would do this build some good.
I've been riding a Canyon Spectral 29 CF9 since last Nov. The bike is unreal, and I must say Canyon's customer support is top notch. It's not surprising to me they refunded you $500.
Did it become more "flexy" with those Onyx hubs, and did you not notice enough difference to go back to the bbinfinite bottom bracket? If different sizes, do you think it's worth the upgrade to buy another?
I know that rockshox ultimate (lyrik front and a super deluxe rear) will be lighter but also have a look at ext or formula forks, the 36 is reasonably heavy. Only if you did want to make it lighter
I gotta ask bc iv been window shopping this bike for months . I can’t figure out which size to get . I’m 5’7 . I rode bmx for over 25 years and mountain bikes .Would the small be to small for this canyon or go with the medium as I’m in the between size . I’m just looking for an opinion here . Kinda would like cross country this bike as well downhill with jumps at the ski slopes
With a bike on the smaller size, there's more things you can do to make it fit better. With a bike too big, not a whole lot of options. But I'd recommend renting a bike and checking out the specs on the rental, then comparing the Reach numbers to the canyon you're looking at
I love chasing a lighter and more playfull bike but it pains me when you take off these suuuper good parts😭 I have a polygon xtrada 7 and its pretty much perfect but now i guess you can always get better😅 love your stuff btw I’ve been here since the Schwinn Axum, your actually the reason that i got that bike! (Even tho i broke the fork on some sick jumps in like a month)
If it were me, I would have just gotten a sram 12 speed cassette for the carbon wheels and run it with Shimano drivetrain. Word on the street is that they work totally fine together. And why did you paint over the maxxis logos??
Haha I'm making a video about a long term review on this bike and I mention that I wish I would've purchased the CF. This bike just felt tanky even with Berd wheels
Do you feel pretty stable while making those turns going down slope? I'm a new rider and the last trail I felt very unstable. I couldn't decide where to put my seat height (no dropper), I couldn't decide on a gear or switch gears at the right time. This trail had a lot of switchback turns going both up and down hill. It was a basic green/blue trail 1.4 miles long but it still kicked my butt. My bike is an older model - Haro V1. Hardtail, 26" wheels, caliper brakes, small size (I'm 5'4"), older and a bit out of shape. I'm wondering if a longer reach bike would be better for a stable feeling of sitting 'in' the bike rather than on top of it.
It’s your bike. Get a 29 inch wheel bike, with newer modern geometry. It’ll have longer reach and a longer wheel base. Throw in the longest dropper post you can fit to get the seat out of the way. You need to get that seat out of the way. Without a dropper you have to put your ass behind the seat which is old school and not what anyone with a dropper is doing anymore.
@@mttec23 Great advise Mike. All your points are solid. Unfortunately, the budget just isn't there or I would have already done it. I could probably scrape up $200 sometime next year, maybe.
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I hope all the parts are give away
it would be interesting watching how it's possible lightening the bicycle with at least the same effectiveness. putting smaller brake discs is a scam.
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Is it just me or did he go from an average rider to a really good rider in like 2 weeks?
Yeah man, I was blown away by the progress and asked myself what I missed.
Im thinking the bentonville trails showcase his abilities better
It’s because he’s been spending so much on his bike, remember kids the only way to get better at riding is spending more on your bike
He's got great fundamentals from being a BMX rider
What happens when one becomes a nurse
keep up the hard work man! love watching you on your journey. Inspiring that you moved your whole life to follow your dreams!
Thanks Rich! I appreciate that, it was a lot of work and uncertainty
I know the bike is "heavier" but you hands down look 100 times better on this bike than you did the yeti. Keep us posted on how NOBL customer service goes on the wheels! I agree with a few of the other comments about maybe more tire pressure or even though heavier a tougher casing? Rad on Canyon to give you the difference back! Says a lot about their customer service for sure! That bike now for under $3000 is almost like a pre-covid deal!!!!
there is also the option of an insert, I smashed a set of enduro rims and swapped them for some trail rims during the pandemic and with an insert I've had 0 issues, massively helps with tire stability, lower pressures and rim protection.
Considering the suspension alone retails for $1,500 I'd definitely agree!
@@kuma_score7536 Hi new to suspension bikes, got this bike literally 3 days ago. What inserts are you talking about, if I may ask?
@@martinhaba5445 foam inserts for the tires, they do a few different jobs but the main ones are protecting the rim allowing you to run lower pressure and the second ome is supporting the tire side to side helping negate tire roll.
@@kuma_score7536 Thanks for reply! Appreciated
Wow, Canyon refunding that difference is amazing 🤯
Canyon have upped their CS alot, But it came at the expense of QC of their products.
"Swapping out a XD driver hub is too expensive".... Holdup let me swap to a whole X01 drivetrain instead... 😂
@@doepicchet he already had all of these parts
@@MrSupermugen a lot. Two words.
@@chrisgould7606 and?
Just the frame is 1,5kg difference :) btw slx is great, shifting under load is better like with cable sram gx or x01. Im going to rid of my GX drivetrain, which is garbage and put slx instead. Also brakes are great. Using 2 pistons slx on my xc bike. SLX drivetrain is 30-40% cheaper like GX and weights just 100g more. slx is by far the best value for money.
I'd say deore is the best for the money but yeah slx is better than sram gx
On my new build im going to aim for all slx and an xt shifter. But im not sure whether to get slx or deore cranks
@@theuglydumpling4772 Get the slx cranks it is much lighter than deore and xt based on paper
@@theuglydumpling4772 yeah, slx cranks is same weight like XT just 10g difference. deore is so heavy. Best combo is slx cassette , cranks and xt shifter and deraileur.
Thanks for trash talking my perfectly fine working gx group
Nice riding!! Nice to see you able to ride different terrain then the desert for sure. Maybe more psi would have saved the rim lol
“Lets rip off this drivetrain”
Actually rips it off
@@snaXaminator it's heavier than 30g cause you have to account for the chainring ... Plus it's alloy and more expensive, so why would he get one?
@@topspot4834 you're right. If something is more sensible to mechanical damages, worths more xD
Get over the weight thing and get Cushcore - at least for the rear.
I found it not only protects the rim, but stiffens the sidewall at lower pressures. So my cornering speed increased.
Not needed for Bentonville, just run a decent trail rim and slightly higher pressures. you generally want faster rolling tires due to the lack of downhill. Lower pressures are just gonna squirm on the berms there (remember Bville is like 90% flow trails)
Great video, Evan! Getting better and better. Those Bentonville trails look way more fun!
All great info. Thanks for sharing. Seems obvious that the wheel set, and less rotating mass, makes the greatest difference. Even more that just the static weight savings.
The only upgrade was the rims! 🤣😂🤣 and you wrekked em!
The 180mm rotor was unnecessary, Its an enduro bike so you want bigger rotors
The only finishing touch I don’t like is blacking out the tyres. New decals look great.
Evan! You’re killing it, hope they sent you a new wheel so you can send it again though a rock garden!
I think you should run an insert in the rear, it's much worth the weight penalty, and it would have saved your carbon rim there
I highly doubt that a CushCore would've saved the rim in this case. I busted 3 rims myself, carelessly just letting the bike plow through rock gardens. Need a combination of heavier duty casing, tougher rim, more tire pressure, and tire insert, IMO.
@@BryanKeller724 CushCore, with semi-low pressure (21-23psi), and EXO casing tires = cause of multiple busted rims for me. CushCore, SG plus sized tire with relatively high pressure (20 psi for plus is quite firm) = cause of busted rim (plus tires are notoriously bad for bottoming when plowing over chunky rocks). SG tire with no insert, and 27-29 psi, so far so good. Not even rim strikes. Felt like I lost something, but I forgot what that something is. Tried riding an old bike, and it felt flimsy and was stopping to see if the tire pressure was low due to squirm. Don't miss the low pressure, and feel more emboldened to venture further from civilization with this level of reliability.
Nah it wouldn't have saved that rim, he took an ultralight XC rim through a rock garden at full send, results were predictable. He should see if NOBL will let him upgrade to the TR35 for his warranty replacement.
@@Varaxis After killing 2 Ibis S35s in a year I just went all in and built a set of DT Swiss FR560s, on EXO+ tires at about the same pressures you run, zero issues even through high speed rock gardens at full send.
Very, very satisfying video. Makes me want to learn way more about working on my bike.
Thanks for doing an aluminum build.
I’m a big fan of aluminum frames for prices and I’m my opinion they are strong
Stronger than the wheels! I like the alloy build too, not worried about scratches or dings
Steel has an even higher endurance limit, just a shame it’s so under appreciated
@@GianPadrutt Cause it's even heavier than alloy. Imagine if the Spectral 125 was made of chromoly it would weigh close to 37 lbs.
@@exoticsoflt what about titanium it‘s meant to be stronger and lighter than steel
@@Brandonmtbni The problem with titanium is that it costs as much as some high grade carbon bikes and in some cases even more.
The tires need more pressure. You could see in slow motion that the tire was completely indented when it hit the ground, which also killed the rim.
You just need to run a stronger sidewall. It looks like that Dissector is an EXO. No one should be running less than an EXO+ in rocky or rough terrain.
Bruh he spent a few grand to make the bike lighter to throw better whips, ngl I don’t think that’s how it works
why get rid of logo maxxis?
I guess he was too heavy
So how much did you spend on upgrades to have a bike that's no lighter than the CF7 version that costs only a few hundred $ more than the AL6? (and comes with Sram already, and probably won't crack the rims)
I would surely accept some more weight in the wheels in trade for not having them break like a plastic toy. That g-out after the rock garden should not have been enough to flat a tire much less break a rim. I hope they have a better model than those.
look to me it was under inflated
The TR32 is a light XC rim and I don't know if I would even use it for gravel. The TR37s are for enduro or AM and I can say that mine have held up better than any alloy rim that they replaced. In NOBL's lineup, that would probably be the best tool for the job.
Rather shocked at the carbon rim breakage. surely they should cope with more than that.
Those are Nobl TR32 wheels which are their cross country only wheelset
Yes, seems those rims are a bit too light for the job at hand.
Yeah… like others have said those are XC race rims. Not the rims for that kind of riding. Different story if he threw some inserts and good tire pressure in there. Was the rear shock unlocked? Lol
I have no interest in carbon rims for a mountain bike. Makes the ride less comfortable and anyone who claims carbon is more reliable than aluminum is just wrong.
@@zacharypump5910That's why F1 cars are made out of Carbon because it's not as good 😅
Coming from an older FS 26er it was surprising to me how heavy a modern long-low-slack bike is with larger wheels, dropper, and beefier suspension; which led me down the weight saving path as well. One easily overlooked item is the fork through axle. Fox weighs 115 gm, OneUp weighs 61gm, and It's also one of the cheapest items per gram of weight savings you can get!
Part of the weight increase is a trend towards installing more durable components and accepting the increased weight. Weight weenieing anything outside of an XC race bike is usually a lot of money and a lot of broken parts
Another solid video although I felt for you doing all that work to your bike then wrecking a rim. Thanks for the great content man.
for an enduro bike that is pretty ok starting weight, you going from trail/XC to enduro is a whole new experience, weight doesn’t affect how well you can master a trick it is the process of repeating the trick, but upgrades are upgrades
The Spectral 125 is a trail bike, based off of a mid-travel all mountain frame.
My ol Giant Faith is 39lbs and I love it all the same. Down with Fat Shaming MTB's
q8D
Those wheels should not have failed on that rock garden. Maybe try Cush core in the rear? Makes the ride feel much better unless you prefer weight savings over performance
Full send mode engaged. Awesome video. Sick riding 🤙.
My favourite channel has come a long way
Thanks Doug! Hoping to keep growing!
Love this video. Btw, that Rhythm fork is pretty heavy.. you'd definitely shave some weight with a Factory 36 or Pike.
That's a LOT of money to lose 150g at most
2:57 goofy ahh canyon stem 💀💀
Really cool video. Keep up the great work !
Shigura brakes are amazing. I am very impressed with how much of a difference in power and and actual effort needed to get the power.
My upgraded XC bike is 36 pounds 💀💀💀 and I only got 50mm travel in front and 2 inches in rear.
Your riding has greatly improved it really surprised me. Sucks with the rim, I guess this is one of those moments in which one questions if Cushcore would have helped.
Nice video! Enjoy the Jared cameo too.
The Noble wheels breaking like that definitely helped me to decide to keep those "heavy" aluminum rims. Carbon rims seem to not have the same lifespan/durability as carbon frames.
My latest bike came with deore and for 2000 mi it's been flawless, reliability never goes out of style !
If I could only choose 1 drivetrain to use for the rest of my life, it'd actually be Shimano Deore. Extremely reliable, but heavy!
Been through 2 slx derailleurs in the past year. Just ordered a deore replacement which will hopefully prove more robust and is easier in the wallet. Weight isn't a priority for me
Minions over the Dissectors to save weight and add a cush core on the rear - Build Complete. Awesome riding.
Evan’s enduro saga 😁
More Enduro stuff coming soon!
I know that you are trying to save weight but I think peace of mind and knowing that you can bash your nice rims is amazing. CUSH CORE FTW.
4:48 painting the maxxis logo is a CRIME
Enjoyed watching this while eating breakfast 🎃
Wow those rims cracked on what looked like nothing. They would die out here in the Phoenix rock gardens.
No cushcore
I had been riding them in Phoenix. So I have no clue
Congrats on the new bike! Yt hasn’t let me comment for a while 😅
Miata whats up dude!!! I missed you man.
@@EvansMTBSaga good to be back, unfortunately just tacod a wheel, so gonna be off the bike for a bit. Glad to see you like the Canyon!
The price drop made me sad. I had saved up a lot to get this bike as it was one I've had my eye on since the European release. I got an email from Canyon about the 125 price drop 3 months after my purchase but they denied me stating they only do 30 day price match. I really didn't expect the price to drop so soon and I would have waited the extra 3 months if I knew! Then I could have made these awesome upgrades too! I guess I should foresight next time since Canyon usually release models early to UK and US at a delay... lesson learned 😥
I got mine on discount, barely at the red line of calendar.. And as there was issue with shipping/card.. price went up when i wanted to buy again.. And they honored 1st lower price. I didint know in case you buy lets say 5000$ bike and it goes to 4500$ within 30 days of your purchase they will refund you with 500$. Do they give credit to buy their stuff or actuall refund to the bank account. Do you know ?
Hi, I am under your weight goal on my Mondraker Foxy carbon 2019. Some of the things which helped:
Non plus components hubs - multi engagement rathet, ebike ready but significantly lighter than industry 9 (86g front 169g rear)
Berd spokes. I built the wheels myself, though its not for the faint hearted but Berd can build your weels for you. the spokes would come down to 80g total and are lighter than water
Enduro speced wheelset weights 1460g with ALU rims (to avoid the rockgarden experience you ve had)
fox transfer SL post at 340g
kcnc cassette at 320g, compatible with Eagle and has a more even stepping with a 9-52 range. Reminds me of the protottype AXS cassette
Selle italia corbonio SLR, if you choose the correct shape the meager padding is actually sufficient (130g)
I also got myself a 4iiii powermeter, but stuck to the xx1 crankset with absoluteblack oval chainring (420g)
xx1 derailleur with Hopp carbon parts 200g and kcnc pulleys (this is way overboard and makes the derailleur more fragile plus is not a great value for money BTW)
you could also save a lot by running lighter tyres, DHR/DHF combo with EXO skin save you some 200g compared to what your bike is wearing. You could save an additional 100g if you go DHr front and back and have only a 2.4 width on both, but you are compromising on rolling resistance and somewhat on downhill speed
XTR SPD pedals with a titanium axle 260g, the axle is only 50 euros extra plus getting your hands dirty
tubolito spare tube on the bike, 48g (people do carry spares, so this does count in.
wolftooth toolset, chainbreaker and tubeles repair stowed away in the handlebars, 133g altogether
Giant CO2 pump stowed away in the fork tube 133g
On the road weight with a bottle of water (the 900ml fidlock) is 14.5kg, this is on a bike with 160mm front fox 36 and 150mm dxp2 back travel
If I switched to a more recent frame, an extra 600g would be saved by that switch
I could save another 300+g by switching brakes to trickstuff piccola with KCNC titanium rotors, (currently sram code R)
In other words its achievable to have the 13.6kg with water, tools pump, spare tube, running tubeless with muckoff or stans, oon alu rims, tubeless repair kit with pedals on, lights on, co2 pump and a small handpump, but it requires a lot of DYI, but you will be able to get enduro spec on that weight and definitely upwards of an extra -1kg for a 125mm travel trail bike (fox 34 fork -500g, lighter tyres -300g, carbon rims -100g, lighter frame -400g)
You black out the Maxxis logo on the tires, cool... What color did you use there (in the video)? Thanks!
Dude, when did your riding technique go through the roof? Did I miss something? Nice man.
It's his full time job now 😅
A 3 pound weight savings is nothing to sneeze at, especially for an alloy frame. That bike is looking sick man!
Great video 🤠
why do you black out the logos on your tires?
Surprised it took this long to break a carbon wheel. I switched back to aluminum after 3 broken wheels.
You can also try a sragura, using a guide ultimate as your lever. Just need to change the seals. I can sehr you the links to the mineral oil compatible seals If you want to.
Great video! Any chance you can mention what product you were using to cover all the tire logos? It was only in the video for a couple of seconds. I was thinking maybe it looked like dress shoe edge dressing, but not sure. I hate the logos on my tires, and want that clean all black look. Thanks!
dude went smooth with the sponsor
Cant wait to be in Bentonville this weekend gopefully even see you?
The aggression in the move of removing the inner tube 🤣
i put the dt swiss fr560 in the rear. heavy but it's the only rim i trust. i have seen every single other wheel brand fail miserably. it's a good feeling to know you'll give in before the rim does😂
FR 560 description on the website-
30 mm welded rim, developed for the big gaps, nasty root mats and mean rockgardens.
Wow what a description!
@@EvansMTBSaga well after a season of enduro racing, park riding, and hitting some of the biggest jumps in my country i can confirm it haha
Hello there, I really like your videos bit please use kilos too for us in Europe 🙏
Man that's actually not bad at all for an aluminum frame bike these days. Gave me some ideas 💡
I've done some pretty gnarly stuff and never cracked my carbon wheel. I'm sorry that happened. What PSI were you running? I usually run 24 psi.
Yea that was extremely sus, maybe forgot to pump up the tires enough?
@@charleshazen5779 Someone else mentioned its a XC wheel set not rated for this type of riding but yeah I'd bet tire pressure had alot to do with it.
Too low of tire pressure and was the rear shock locked???
@@laxplaysu91 Idk but carbon wheels definitely should not be doing that on the trail he was on
What kind of rear shock upgrades would you recommend?
The riding spots are so much better than your area in AZ was. Bummer about that rim tho dude.
Hey Evan... I have the Spectral 125 CF7, since I've had it I have a bit of a rattling noise coming like from the front of the bike. Cockpit, fork? I don't know. I swapped out the stem and bars and it seemed to reduce the noise. But now I think I'm tracking the noise to the internal cables bumping against the frame when riding? Is there any feedback or recommendations you might have? Thanks!
Well the Acros headset has a plastic race that is pretty much pointless. I had a rattle too and replaced the headset and it went away. Not sure if the carbon frame uses the same crap headset though
@@EvansMTBSaga yeah the headset was crap lol... I guess I just have to keep adjusting the spacers to see if I can really nail it down. Thanks again! 🙏
Great builds evans for a canyon mtb.
can't believe that bombed the rim, didn't look that hard.
I know right! Maybe it was compromised before?
Why does this frame look just like a Polygon to me?
Why did you whack the slx crank off?! I think you may have forgotten to rotate the chip in-between the pinch bolts and that was why it was hard to remove.
What did you use to cover the logos on the tires?!! The bright yellow letters on my Maxxis tires doesn't look good with my color scheme. Petty, I know.
Did the carbon wheels and new hub change the propensity for the wheel to feel like jackknifing as you stated it does in the previous video?
Oh yeah it definitely helped that!
Hey Evan I love the videos you make and I got Fishing Clash and used your code it is a really fun game
Might be worth going to tr35s, or even 37s. Those wheels are definitely not designed for rock garden smashing at speed. Nice video!
They also probably have a max weight limit too. Running 2.4s on 26/27mm ID rims, terrible idea. Adding an extra 100grams for a rear insert would do this build some good.
With Evan either the build doesn’t go well or the ride! Nice vid :)
How are you finding the suspension with those drops and jumps? It's a 125mm Spectral yeah?
Are you using volume spacers?
why did you change the brake's durit ? is there any difference ?
I've been riding a Canyon Spectral 29 CF9 since last Nov. The bike is unreal, and I must say Canyon's customer support is top notch. It's not surprising to me they refunded you $500.
So just to clarify, he bought an item for retail price. The item then went on sale, and he got money back that he was not owed
May I have those parts you do not want😀🇮🇸 You should use grip-shifters !
Did it become more "flexy" with those Onyx hubs, and did you not notice enough difference to go back to the bbinfinite bottom bracket? If different sizes, do you think it's worth the upgrade to buy another?
Dude, it wasn´t even a really gnarly rockgarden for broke that wheel. Alloy wheels and tubes xever.🤘🤘🤘
I know right! I went frame by frame on the video and didn't see a rim strike either
As someone who prefers aluminum over carbon frames, It's nice to see aluminum full sus bikes getting the "weight weenie" treatment. Keep it up! :D
And here I am happy that my Hardtail Fatbike is only around 16 Kg and not even thinking about saving any weight on the bike.
Could you show us more in detail your work in this video? im especially interested how you did the braking hose end.
Hey! really loved the video and I have a question: why do you put a few spacers above your stem instead of below? it really irks me lol
Weight isn't everything. Carbon's strong but it's so easy to snap when hitting rough trails.
I know that rockshox ultimate (lyrik front and a super deluxe rear) will be lighter but also have a look at ext or formula forks, the 36 is reasonably heavy. Only if you did want to make it lighter
evan you should go for some heavier duty rims on the canyon, maybe the tr35s?
Looks like you need to run some inserts my friend to protect those rims
I gotta ask bc iv been window shopping this bike for months . I can’t figure out which size to get . I’m 5’7 . I rode bmx for over 25 years and mountain bikes .Would the small be to small for this canyon or go with the medium as I’m in the between size . I’m just looking for an opinion here . Kinda would like cross country this bike as well downhill with jumps at the ski slopes
With a bike on the smaller size, there's more things you can do to make it fit better. With a bike too big, not a whole lot of options. But I'd recommend renting a bike and checking out the specs on the rental, then comparing the Reach numbers to the canyon you're looking at
Why did you black out the Maxxis logo on the tires?
Keep up the good work 🍻
You used Seth’s stem from his P7! Nice!
I ended up taking it off. Too long and it was making the steering nervous going into corners. Solved that with a short stem
I love chasing a lighter and more playfull bike but it pains me when you take off these suuuper good parts😭
I have a polygon xtrada 7 and its pretty much perfect but now i guess you can always get better😅 love your stuff btw I’ve been here since the Schwinn Axum, your actually the reason that i got that bike! (Even tho i broke the fork on some sick jumps in like a month)
I got the Xtrada 7 and ended up changing: fork (Fox 34), brakes and rotors (XT), wheels (DT swiss XR391), Tyres (Contis), seatpost (PNW dropper), seat (Giant Romero SL), Stem (race face), Handlebar (race face carbon), grips (odi rogue), headset (cane creek 40). But everything else is stock! haha
@@frotto thats cool but im on a budget and im happy with reliable parts
@@Zach_May it's a great bike. I really like the geometry. Comfy capable but still very efficient.
If it were me, I would have just gotten a sram 12 speed cassette for the carbon wheels and run it with Shimano drivetrain. Word on the street is that they work totally fine together. And why did you paint over the maxxis logos??
Is it worth to pay the 300 bux more on the cf version?
I have never had an cf bike so i am not sure on that one.
Haha I'm making a video about a long term review on this bike and I mention that I wish I would've purchased the CF. This bike just felt tanky even with Berd wheels
Carbon wheels, an insert is a must :)
Hey Evan, about to get one of these, thanks for the videos! Does that thing have the SRAM UDH, or is it a Canyon proprietary one? Thanks!
I have a 36 pound bike and it still wips and flicks well
Do you feel pretty stable while making those turns going down slope? I'm a new rider and the last trail I felt very unstable. I couldn't decide where to put my seat height (no dropper), I couldn't decide on a gear or switch gears at the right time. This trail had a lot of switchback turns going both up and down hill. It was a basic green/blue trail 1.4 miles long but it still kicked my butt.
My bike is an older model - Haro V1. Hardtail, 26" wheels, caliper brakes, small size (I'm 5'4"), older and a bit out of shape. I'm wondering if a longer reach bike would be better for a stable feeling of sitting 'in' the bike rather than on top of it.
It’s your bike. Get a 29 inch wheel bike, with newer modern geometry. It’ll have longer reach and a longer wheel base. Throw in the longest dropper post you can fit to get the seat out of the way. You need to get that seat out of the way. Without a dropper you have to put your ass behind the seat which is old school and not what anyone with a dropper is doing anymore.
@@mttec23 Great advise Mike. All your points are solid. Unfortunately, the budget just isn't there or I would have already done it. I could probably scrape up $200 sometime next year, maybe.