Yeah, didn't he say he wanted a 1350 hp bus? I think I'm probably more concerned about that than the Escape, even though the Escape is a fair concern as the bus is likely 20 years from completion and the Escape is probably less than 2.
Similar thing as happened to Kaskaskia happend in the middle ages in Poland. There was a city with a huge castle which would've ended up as the capital of Poland... but the river changed its course by 400 meters so instead of flowing right under the castle you'd have to go through 400 metres of swamp to get to it. Subsequently the court moved to Warsaw and the would be capital barely exists now as a small village with an impressive castle ruin.
@@djdjukic I also found it interesting but could only find Krakow, Poznan, Plock, and Gniezno. But those moves were all made because of fire or just the new king wanting it somewhere else.
@WirelessNut I guess you don't ever read the comments when EV's are ever involved. as that is a very common "well, here is 17 gotcha's that also ignore reality". sadly even joking about amplifies the stupid.
I nearly had a heart attack driving a Polestar 2 as a rental car because I was backing out of a parking spot and the car stopped so suddenly I was certain I had backed into another car or a post. I got out and there was nothing there. The car must have slammed on the brakes by itself. Glad it's not just me!
Exactly, their high-end specs with most options can go for 25-30K. making them some of the best value EV's. I will probably wait until the refresh is 2-3 years old and get one, after a similar price drop.
I am so glad I found your channel many years ago. A real person speaking about their doubt, concerns, experience and first of all joy of cars, and everything else. I have to admit you can make even the sponsored parts watchable.
I only found it this year and has been immensely enjoying. I found it through Technology Connections and I absolutely love those two guys and wish I had something to bring to the table.
For anyone wondering the one petal driving braking at high SOC/low battery temp Tesla USED TO limit the regen braking with no compensation from the actual brakes. Fairly recently they updated and now you can turn on the option to use the physical brake pads to have a consistent braking experience like he describes having with the Polestar.
*I just sat in one at the dealer. I am 6"6" tall and I felt like a big grasshopper shoved into a small match box. NOT FOR TALL PEOPLE!!! I ended up with a Telsa 3 and I have plenty of room including my son who is 7" tall. (P.S. I did buy a KIA EV6 at first and it have total Electrical failure after only 3 weeks ownership and 500 miles and the dealer said it would take 5 months to fix so it had a MAJOR factory defect of some kind!!! Dealer refunded my purchase price only AFTER I spent $2000.00 to hire a real scary Lawyer and he faxed them a nasty letter! Kia is too new at the electric car game so better give them 5 more years to catch up or end up being their Guinea Pig like I was!!!)*
Polestar: it's an electric vehicle so it saves the planet! Also Polestar: Oh you want a simple service? We'll just needlessly ship it across the country and then ship it back. No big deal
I've had my P*2 (2022, dual motor, LR, but not performance pkg) for a bit over a year now and apart from occasionally staying offline for the whole duration of a drive, I've never experienced any issues, but I've only driven 15000km. I love this car!
It's wild to me that your nice weather efficiency is less than my winter efficiency in my MachE. I didn't realize the Mustang was particularly efficient for an EV.
My M3 RWD I pull on a really good 70MPH highway run is around 5 M/KWh On a not good day when it’s nasty out and I run the heat instead of the fans it’s around 4 to 4.2
6:13 A noise that kind of sounds like tire noise that developed soon after a big shock load could be a damaged wheel bearing (Brinelling damage). If the rotor is warped again, the hub part of it could be bent as well.
With the wheel bearing possibly being damaged and polestar having variable power steering assist I think they call it progressive steering assist. It might be freaking out the system causing the steering wheel to hang up in a certain spot. Or not who knows 🙃
I HATE the new trend of having no start procedure. I should be able to turn the car OFF and ON. Even my Bolt (which DOES have a start button) doesn't FULLY turn off, so if it's doing some glitchy bullshit there is no way of rebooting the system other than walking away from it for an unspecified amount of time or disconnecting the auxiliary battery.
Teslas do have a "Fully power off, damnit!" button. It's in the Service menu. I used it once to install a mod, but other than that I've never needed it, as neither of my two Teslas have ever "done some glitchy bullshit".
@@Travis0palzae Yeah I recently discovered that in a forum post and it does help with many issues. It sucks that they don't put the reset procedure anywhere in the manual.
It's good to know that as an Alfa Romeo owner considering a Polestar 2, the ownership experience won't change much. Random weird stuff being inaccurate or not quite working correctly, but also not quite broken, few dealerships, lighting money on fire in depreciation -- all the same.
Funny enough the dealership problem doesnt exist here in switzerland , i can just bring it to a certified volvo dealership and they do the servicing etc. BUT the smaller issues i can agree with there are some but tbh they were and still are not a dealbreaker for me, i just love my PS .
I remember having a 1990s Ford Taurus with wonky steering. The variable assist varied in the middle of a turn. I now have a car with a gas pedal that sticks when I've had it on cruise (fortunately it sticks in the off position, not down). I wouldn't want that in my steering.
On the steering sticking point... my Volt does this, too. I attribute it to the electric power steering. It's not on all the time like a traditional powre steering system, so you HAVE to cross some sort of threshold for the power steering to kick on. And you can feel that little gap between no power assist, and power assist.
My Hyundai iX20 (model first introduced 2011) does have full electric power steering and I never experienced anything like this. I suspect all of the affected cars use the same parts from one manufacturer, thus this annoying behaviour can be found on many cars from different car brands. So far in the comments were mentioned: - Volvo XC60 and XC90 (year 2020+) + Polestar 2 - Hyundai Kona - Chevy Volt
I also thought that was an odd point when ours is always done at a Volvo dealer and they’re all over the place. Heck, we even got a top of the line XC90 as a courtesy car which wasn’t bad. I think in Europe it’s a no brainer to get the polestar, but bad planning, availability, and geography in the US makes it much harder.
@@puddycat2325 If you think the geography of the US makes it bad, try Canada. In Ontario, the furthest north there is a Volvo dealer is Newmarket. Going north from there and it is a void. If you are headed towards northwestern Ontario, the next Volvo dealer is Winnipeg, Manitoba, which is well over a thousand miles away.
@@michaeltutty1540 I’d suggest the alternative in Canada is an ICE vehicle rather than a tesla as I imagine the charging infrastructure isn’t great either, especially further north. But then I’d always argue you should never stoop as low as buying a tesla.
Well ... problem is he´s totally wrong. Those countries are so high on electric cars only because of HUGE incentives to buy them (government literally pays you to buy them, have huge advantages in parking, use special lanes, e.t.c.) and HUGE taxes for buying ICE cars.
@@Reonnor The purchase incentives, parking incentives and special lanes are mostly a Norway thing only, I'm in Finland (one of those top countries) and we have next to none of that. For a short period in a year you can apply for a 2000€ (meaningless sum) grant for EVs only under 50k, and next to none of the EVs sold here are under 50k. So there might be other reasons in those other countries too if they don't have Norways huge incentives either. But, you are right that ICE car taxation at purchase is huge, not yearly taxation which is around the same with EVs and fuel is expensive but so is electricity. How that ICE car purchase tax affects the market, however is that premium cars (Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, etc) that normally have large engines are taxed more than volume cars and the adoption of EVs has skyrocketed with models like the i4, EQS, and Porsche Taycan as although they're still expensive, they are nowhere near the price of the equivalent model with a gasoline/diesel engine and in countries like ours with low density, everyone who can afford a new car has a house and can easily charge at home, and PHEVs are garbage so why bother. Volume cars, compacts and the like the purchase tax added to the price is really minimal, so EVs are noticeably more expensive but among the middle-upper class they get massive discounts with premium cars, you'll save loads by going EQS SUV (a larger car!) instead of GLE or by going Taycan instead of Panamera.
@@shroomyesc Incentives for EVs are not really a thing in Sweden either. The government recently removed the grant for purchasing new EVs. However gas prices are high, charging is widespread and lots of people are wanting to invest in renewables. I deliver EVs around the country for customers and it is not unusual to see public charging stations in remote villages.
Greetings from the UK - I just want to say that I love watching your videos. You make me laugh out loud, you really do. My best LOL moment other than "...it's not drive", is definitely "shut up! It's my money!" You genius man! All the very best to you and your family and Happy Easter, while we're at it. 🙂
Our family were early Kaskaskia residents. During one of the floods, they moved a bunch of the graves across the river, and that is where some of them are buried now.
I bought a new Victory motorcycle for $23,000 and 4 years and 38k mi later I sold it for $6,000. You made me feel better about my purchase, thank you Robert.
I know of even worse. The first owner of my Mitsubishi i-MiEV bought it for probably close to the $28,000 list price, and four years and 10k miles (and another owner) later I bought it for $4500.
regarding the usage metric, the reason most countries don't do mpgs or the electric equivalent is that the math is misleading. as per engineering explained on youtube via motorauthority, "Increasing the mpg of two cars by the same amount ... doesn't mean they save the same amount of fuel. A gain of 1 mpg will equate to more fuel savings in a car that started out getting 5 mpg than a car that started out getting 50 mpg."
I used to explain how mpg is misleading by using an example. Take a family with two cars, a sedan that gets 20mpg, and a pickup that gets 10mpg. Both are driven the same distance, 10,000 mi/year. They can replace the car with a hybrid that gets 40mpg, or a new pickup that gets 20mpg. Which option will save more fuel. Everyone picked replacing the car as that sees a 20mpg improvement versus only 10 with the pickup. I would then do the maths showing them that replacing the pickup actually saves more. Even after working through the math with them, some people still didn't believe.
Good info. I rented a Polestar in Dallas in January and was getting about 30.0 kWh/100mi. Temperatures were between 60 and 80F and I did a mix of local and highway. I was impressed. I also just bought an XC40 Recharge (same battery and motors as this) and it’s not as efficient as this, but it also hasn’t really warmed up yet where I live. I’ll have to wait until the later spring and summer to pass judgment on the efficiency.
When they will literally run the term of the loan out to 120 months, or 10 years, you'd better get used to it and you'd better get used to never actually owning your vehicle.
I hope there isn't a clause in the finance deal about excess mileage. I once bought an 11 month ex lease car and it had a big sticker next to the mile-o-meter saying. "Mileage must not exceed 15000 miles. Penalties apply if exceeded."
@@eekee6034 don’t know about the US, but they’re the majority of the new car market in the UK. Usually with a purchase option at the end of the term so you can decide later rather than today.
Those tires really matter on these things when it comes to efficiency. I went from having generic all seasons get 4 mi/kwh on my LEAF to cross climate 2's getting 2.5-3 mi/kwh. Not making that mistake again. Probs going for a low RR, or regular all season for my next set of tires to get 4 mi/kwh again, or higher.
Yeah I hated the Ecopia's because they didn't wear well, but only the michelin energy savers are close in terms of efficiency. I replaced the ecopias with Continentals, which rode better, lasted longer, had better traction in the snow, and were even cheaper, but the range was 15 percent less.
interesting, I heard people loving the Cross Climate 2's for everything from better traction, ride, and gas mileage vs oem tires across the board on ICE vehicles
@@Daniel-it1dp they don't give you better mileage than a Bridgestone ecopia or Michelin energy saver. Economy more of a priority for EVs than ICE vehicles though.
4:20 you're describing the exact problem I have with my Volvo XC40 Recharge. It's not a permanent problem but it happens from time to time and it's super annoying. So this is definitely a Volvo thing, not just Polestar.
@@alexcrouse I was going to post the same. It most likely has drive by wire which means it uses a variable steering ratio. Any number of things could make it change ratio's, including bad software.
A week ago, I'd have argued that the pilot package is silly. I drove a rental Pasaat from Connecticut to Maine and back in one day yesterday, and while the lane keeping was irritating, the adaptive cruise control was utterly priceless, I want to retrofit it into my 2002 Outback now. I loved it.
Not having it in Drive is a little bit like when you’re lining up the circular saw to the workpiece, carefully squeezing the trigger and then nothing happens because you didn’t put a battery in it. I’d buy this over a Model 3 because I like Volvos and the guy that runs Tesla is such a basket case that I couldn’t bring myself to buy a car from him. Oh and the Polestar has proper door handles.
The door handles is one of the big things stopping me, a Niro EV owner, from considering any of the current new Hyundai/Kia 800V cars. Pretty, fast charging, lots of nice quality of life stuff like built in 120V AC outlets, but _sucky door handles_.
Have to agree, Elon is a horrible person and he screws with the cars and charges everyone for things that should be included, then takes them away after you paid for them.
The tesla door handles become very natural after a week of ownership. I forget they are odd until someone else comments about them. I'll take a minor efficiency increase over the life of the car. Potato tomatoes i guess.
I spent half my life struggling to get used to anything at all, and now I'm amazed at what I can adapt to! It's really weird. I decided to learn APL programming one day -- it's all weird symbols -- and now I can type about 100 symbols I can't remember the names or uses of! ;) More practically, I bought a bike with a CVT, a little concerned that I'd have trouble putting it in the right gear ratio without stops or an indicator, but I get it right about half the time and it doesn't take a second to change when I don't. On a car, I've got to admit that I love small silly stylistic features.
I have a Polestar 2 at 23,000 miles and completely agree with all your pros and cons. When it comes down to it, the PS2 is gorgeously designed and I really enjoy supporting the lesser-known EVs.
Got my Ioniq 5 about the same time you got your Polestar, put just over 28,000 miles. It's my favorite car I've ever owned. I've seen some real savings and am very pleased with it. Not saying everyone should go EV but you should definitely look into it if you are in the market to buy a new car.
I'm very happy for you! I'm a big fan of Hyundai and Kia! But for now until the infrastructure becomes such that you can charge your EV car at every turnpike exit that it might be better to have a PHEV rather than an EV at this point. This is not me second guessing your comment. This is just me thinking about the infrastructure we have in the US right now and probably for the next 5 years. My brother recently made it from Pennsylvania down to Texas on an EV car so maybe I am mistaken. ❤
@@kylemorg EVs are fine for highway travel. It's when you get off the highway and out into rural and remote areas where you start to have trouble. I'm in no hurry to get rid of my gas car for that reason. I go up in the mountains a couple times per year where there are no chargers and no EVs.
99% of my charging has been done at home. Not to say that don’t need more fast chargers but it’s only an issue on road trips and if you can’t charge at home. We really don’t need as many fast chargers as gas stations since you can charger wherever there is power. It really is a change in mindset.
Really appreciate this real world review. My wife and I have always found Volvos (and now Polestars) attractive but they've always been plagued by electrical gremlins! Sometimes the ignition wouldn't work (at all) or power windows would or wouldn't operate etc so I always had a small box of assorted fuses in the car and became quite adept at changing them. The dealers were never of any help in tracking down the source. Still, we test drove an XC 60 with autostart/stop and during the test drive (brand new!) the car refused to restart at a stop light, finally did in limp mode that allowed us to crawl back to the dealer. The soon-to-be unhappy salesman asked how the drive went....
Fantastic video! I really appreciate that you got into the details, and highlight what is important in a car. Range really doesn't matter when you got fast charging, and the integration with navigation and battery state is very important that most people don't think about (planned charging time, and preconditioning). I've been sharing the same thoughts as you when people have asked about my Model S. Really looking forward to the bus EV :-)
still researching EVs and it's difficult to find useful, critical, but balanced Tesla videos. Are you saying Tesla DOES properly integrate navigation with battery state, etc? My impression was that it does but common complaint is that they use their own system as opposed to Google/Apple software.
A little jealous of the Bolt EUV drivers right now. I had no idea it existed when I was shopping, and it ticks every single box on my wishlist for an EV, and at about 1/2 the price I paid for a Tesla.
I see Polestars all the time. There again I work next door to a Volvo dealer where these do get serviced in the U.K. Amusingly one of the people who works there has a BMW iX although the same group has a BMW dealership elsewhere. Being in Europe I have never seen a Bolt.
@@MrDuncl If you were in continental Europe you might have seen an Opel Ampera-e, which was a rebadged Bolt. But they never bothered selling it in the UK and even discontinued it in Europe, despite a lot of people wanting to buy it.
I rented a polestar two for a trip from Los Angeles to San Diego because my Fiat 500 E would’ve been a ridiculous choice for that trip with only roughly 80 miles of range. I agree with most of what is being said here from that trip. First of all, going from 40 mph to 80 mph in the pole star is ridiculously enjoyable. I have never driven a car that is so confident and surging in highway traffic, it’s just fantastic. 0 to 30 acceleration is also very good, and so far from a pure driving perspective. It’s pretty great. I also agree with the criticism of the seat as button function of the car. I sort of got used to it. But it is not confidence building, and it’s disheartening to hear that that has other problems. I also agree with the assessment that , the trip planning system is excellent. I almost didn’t have to think about it, and even when there were problems with some of the charging stations that I encountered along the way, the system still was able to assist me. The only feature I wish it had was the ability for Folks who were using it to let you know that some of the charging stations have problems. That function, alone, if done, accurately and consistently, would make a huge difference to using Evies and charging them. I imagine getting to a gas station and finding it’s closed, or that it has fewer working pumps, would be just as useful. But for gas vehicles, these days, there are so many gas stations, then in most instances, it’s not an issue. And by the way, when people complain that there aren’t enough, EV, charging stations in certain places, I would just point out that there are portions of the country where they are one or possibly two gas stations at the most remote location that you might have to get to. I have just as often had an issue where I had to make sure to stop at one particular gas station going between California and Arizona or California, Nevada, and if that gas station had not been open, I would’ve been screwed. The issue exists no matter what kind of vehicle you’re driving, but the evidence of the structure has not been built out enough yet. The only thing I would add to this assessment is that I find invisibility in a pole star, not to be great, and it also feels like a very bottom heavy Vehicle. On the one hand, that can feel cozy and safe. On the other hand, much like a lot of today’s vehicles unfortunately, I feel like I’m somewhat less aware or able to see the vehicles around me. The back up camera was quite good, but I still much prefer the ability to see around with my own eyes rather than through cameras. I know that with current safety standards, AB and C pillars are thicker, and it’s much harder to have rollover protection, and still have a lot of window glass. But I’m really hoping that sometime in the near future, some manufacture works out how to get the same kind of strength with a lot less material, so that we can go back to being able to see out the back of our vehicles. A back up camera is not a panacea, and brings with it. It’s own challenges.
Well, you've convinced me. My next new car is going to be a Jeep Wrangler with a V6 and manual transmission and no electric drive. However, I will keep my Prius C as a daily since it is so cheap to run. And yes, AC is the range killer.
Yep. Especially since Tesla is known for shite customer service and build quality is still an issue even on the updated model 3 which they claimed has solved the build quality issues.
Re. the over-the-air performance boost, I totally agree it's your own money to spend, but the business model isn't one I want to be normalized. This is legitimately one of the things that's making it harder for me to want to buy a Polestar later this year. I won't buy a crippled product if I have a choice in the matter. But I realize that's my choice...
It makes a little more sense on '23 and up models because you can buy the power upgrade for $1200 without having to spend the full $5300 on the performance pack. I have mixed feelings on the concept as a whole though
Hewlett Packard / Keysight have been doing this for years on their test equipment. Need an extra 300MHz or a decode option on your oscilloscope. Pay a few thousands of dollars and they send you a product key to enable the feature that was already there.
@@Not31337 Tesla's features and upgrade behavior is horrendous and their quality certainly isn't better than Polestar, even though they should have learned by now.
I feel the highway stealth thing, while not as significant I've humbled a few people with a 12 year old v6 accord, those things are always overlooked lmao.
The window when the Polestar was the optimal choice was really super narrow and you happened to land right on that local maximum. That said, it is currently *THE* play for a used EV.
Thanks for pointing out that you're driving a coal powered car. And I mean this in the most non-snarky way possible. Love you videos...and your humor...and your honesty. So, I had a '77 240D for a while, great car...you should get one of those.
This is fascinating. I own a Jaguar Ipace. It continually surpasses the EPA estimate of 234 unless it’s dead of winter and cold as a witches you know what, and I precondition it for a long period of time. I guess this is where the saying “you get what you pay for” comes from. 40k miles in, and only been for one non required service interval. That was minor for the 12v accessory battery. Just replaced tires, and we’re back racking up miles and driving by gas stations.
@@Somehandle16 every single one has been recalled over fire hazard and they are discontinuing it because it’s been an unmitigated financial disaster and abysmal sales. But glad you think it looks nice.
@@ultrastoat3298 I thought that was caused by lg Chem batteries but were fixed by an ota update? When it launched in 2018 as one of the first electric card from a legacy automaker it was a very decent car I thought. Now the competition has definitely caught up and far surpassed it in innovation. (I'd rather take an ev6 or model 3 at a similar price any day) but it wasn't a disaster like you described I thought? Also JLR sales have been very poor across the board which is why they're trying to do a relaunch in 2025(?) But it was interesting they also included the ipace in that too.
@@Somehandle16 They were LG batteries. Their “solution” was to take 25% of the battery capacity away. Which is not a solution at all and is why they are in a class action lawsuit now. This was a huge L for them.
My new car has that weird steering wheel stiffness as well at times. Just randomly happens for a while. I think it's maybe the electric power steering not being sensitive enough to kick in until you push hard enough in a direction. It's really annoying at times when you're just one handing the wheel and want to turn it very slightly
But that's weird to think that low steering assistance would cause the steering wheel to be harder to turn, since when you are at highway speeds, it should be easy to turn the steering wheel even without _any_ steering assist, right? At least that is what I've heard. When cars lacked power steering long ago, it was difficult to turn the wheel at city speeds, but easier at high speeds. So it has to be the mechanism they use for lane keep assist, that holds the wheel in place or moves the wheel for you, causing the wheel to stick in place. At least my theory.
@@zzoinks I forgot the lane keep! Makes more sense thinking about it. Since I plan on ripping that system out entirety after the warranty period, maybe that will stop this issue from occuring
I had a problem like that on a Honda Jazz/Fit but it wasn't intermittent. They had a flaw in the design of the steering rack which caused the bearing block that presses the rack against the pinion to wear a dip into the rack so that it would stick in the centre position. Not noticeable around town but very annoying on the motorway as it made it impossible to make small corrections.
7:54 best advert ever, a ad fer shipping services and with a tugboat shipping barges up the great Mississippi river, 👌 Not skipping this ad, can't help it, I love shipping 🤣
I think passive should be standard, at least. I've hated the few times I've driven vehicles with active lane assist, since it's often reading the lanes wrong and you have to fight it a bit too long before it lets off
Unfortunately in places like Winnipeg, lane keeping is not especially helpful for most of the year - either the lane markings are covered in snow or they haven't been re-painted until August after being scraped away by the snow plows.
Lane keeping and what have you can be DANGEROUS, particularly when there is a construction realignment of the lanes. It does not read orange markings if the white markings are still visible. I had a significant fight to maintain my lane in a Kia that I rented. It damned near ran me under a transport truck. Keep it away from me. I will not have it.
The number of EV’s in Norway is crazy. I travel there a few times a month and a few years ago it was unusual if I didn’t see a couple of EV’s in my short 10 minute walk from the railway station to the office. Now I count the petrol cars, yeah it’s that much of a difference, the ratio is close to 50/50 now and I reckon in a couple of years it’ll be 80/20 in the EV’s favour. Some countries lead, others follow…
@@jeffw1267What are you even trying to say? The US, Canada and Australia are other “sparsely populated” countries. Wouldn't EV's make even more sense in densely poulated countries like the Netherlands, Italy or Japan where distances are much shorter? And black/brown people can't drive EVs..?
Hello. I am a Swede and I live by the arctic circle. The EV's don't work that great up here during winters compared to pre AdBlue diesel cars with fuel heaters or engine heaters. There are long distances to everywhere you want to drive and temperatures down to and below -40C/F can happen here and there. There is a reason that we have so many test tracks on the lakes and in the forests, and that so many international car manufacturers come here to winter test their cars every year. The cold is a problem for all cars but the electric cars with all the fancy electric stuff and big screens are the worst. things freeze and screens get super slow to update when they are really cold. But it is not winter all year around. The other six months electric cars work great up here. I liked this video. The anger and negativity makes me feel like I am listening so a fellow northern swede. Focusing on the negative is more helpful than focusing on the things that are great. I care about the stuff that will annoy me or will make me regret buying a thing for a lot of money. Again, great video. You rock!
Awesome car. I drove one for two years and I sort of miss it. But it had lots of (minor) software issues. Cost per km was a lot higher because electricity is 10 times more expensive here. Best thing about my Polestar were the pixel headlights which yours does not have, I think.
Brilliant video- first time viewer and your humorous, self-deprecating yet informative review of this car had me learning and chuckling the entire time. Subbed! As someone who made a purchase of an EV that makes almost zero sense on paper I feel I can relate. Our 2021 Mini Cooper SE, bought used for just about full MSRP at the height of COVID supply chain problems, has an unbelievably pitiful range of ~200 km, didn’t qualify for any incentives, is so rare the dealer can’t even service it properly and has such a small cargo area you have to put the seats down if you’ve bought more than 4 bags of groceries…. Luckily it’s so much fun to drive I can’t wipe the grin off my face. Plus, well, it isn’t like every other EV on the road - I.e. Hyundai or Tesla..so its throwback styling is oddly refreshing. Plus it costs about $3/ day to drive. In other words I absolutely love this dumb little car. Maybe our next EV will be more practical.
I cant believe how much the car depreciated. Love the video and the perspective. Hope that Rivian works out! Buying a Tesla was the best decision I have ever made. Bought in 2019 with autopilot when it cost $6000 and couldn't be happier years later.
I've got a rear suspension squeaks as well (different cars, and they are old), but it's the rubber mount at the top of the shocks rubbing on the frame. Put in a piece of cloth as a buffer and it's fine until the cloth wears through. It's fun when you have to ride in the trunk with someone else driving to figure out where noises are coming from :)
Thanks Robert. Entertaining as usual, though as a 60 plus guy who's never had to grapple with anything other than metric, every time you said kw/h per 100 miles, my brain tried to explode 😊
I'm glad that this video makes the REAL LIFE point of what RANGE really means. My 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid had an EPA of 20 MPG (City & Hwy, not an average). It also had a 26 Gallon tank. Logic dictates that the vehicle would be able to achieve 520 miles of range. I have never gotten that, even on the flattest roads, driving solely on the freeway (at 70 MPH or less). If I drive 80-100% City, I get up to 400 miles If I drive 80-100% Hwy, I get up to 500 miles (assuming mostly no headwind, and mostly no mountains) If I drive 80-100% Hwy with Mountains and/ or headwinds, it's closer to City driving. So I can assume with a full tank, that I can get up to 400 miles, regardless of what the fuel gage reads. Electric Vehicles could have MUCH larger batteries, but so far only the Lucid Air has done that. Eventually, I believe that auto manufacturers will put 350-500 mile range battery-packs in their EVs And Eventually, there we will settle on a standard for Charging Station quality. But we're still in the learning phases.
Great year-in-review for ownership of the Polestar. Valid criticisms, but it seems like overall a positive experience? It's easy to look at "the road not taken" and only compare it to the complaints you have about the choice you made, because often the things you'd complain about in the other alternative aren't obvious until you've lived it.
*I just sat in one at the dealer. I am 6"6" tall and I felt like a big grasshopper shoved into a small match box. NOT FOR TALL PEOPLE!!! I ended up with a Telsa 3 and I have plenty of room including my son who is 7" tall. (P.S. I did buy a KIA EV6 at first and it have total Electrical failure after only 3 weeks ownership and 500 miles and the dealer said it would take 5 months to fix so it had a MAJOR factory defect of some kind!!! Dealer refunded my purchase price only AFTER I spent $2000.00 to hire a real scary Lawyer and he faxed them a nasty letter! Kia is too new at the electric car game so better give them 5 more years to catch up or end up being their Guinea Pig like I was!!!)*
0:58 And Im here to inform people that Tesla has been found to not only let any employee look at recordings made from your Tesla at will, but also to allow software to figure out where that recording was from, And allow Teslas to make recording any time they want, including when the tesla is turned off in your closed garage. Recordings have been made and distributed around the company of naked people walking around their Teslas with no repercussions.
I've enjoyed this video very much. At last, a completely, 100% honest review from an actual owner that is not afraid to admit mistakes and is clearly unbiased. Thank you Robert!
I drive a polestar 2 as well, fascinatingly, haven't had any of the issues you reported. I've had a couple small ones - rear suspension creaks over bumps and the back windows make a high pitched sound when rolled down. BTW, Polestar 2 does get the tax credit, but only if you lease the car, now. Oh, and one other note - I have the AWD version with Pilot pack only. I am able to routinely get around 240-250 miles in good weather. I think your performance package might be hurting the range.
Wow. I appreciate your review so much! I was thinking of making this my next car, but the maintenance not being convenient and wide spread is a deal breaker for me 🙏🏼
I've driven a 2024 LRSM for about 2000 miles now and am very happy with the efficiency. I'm averaging 22.5 kWh/100 mi so far, or about 10% better than the EPA estimate, and have gotten as low as 20.2 over a 100 mile interval, including freeway driving. I'm sure the mild California climate and 19" wheels help, but the EPA numbers are certainly not bogus in my experience.
Kaskaskia is the first place I ever drove a car. My dad took me there and let me drive around the empty village.
I can't even imagine, oh wait nvm. I used to live in the rust belt.
Did you live in Ste. Gen?
@@herbiehusker1889 Cape
@@ordlay23 ah. I live not too far away in Bollinger County.
Ok
I want Robert to do history videos now. I liked how he did that
yeah his perky demeanor is easy to listen to
Same
2:35. I imagine giving you a 900HP Ford Escape would probably be against the Geneva Convention.
Yeah, didn't he say he wanted a 1350 hp bus? I think I'm probably more concerned about that than the Escape, even though the Escape is a fair concern as the bus is likely 20 years from completion and the Escape is probably less than 2.
@@bobbybobman3073 That bus will pull wheelies.
Does one really need a 600kW in a car or a small truck?
@@LMB222 Yes.
@@LMB222 Absolutely not. Which is why it would be funny.
Similar thing as happened to Kaskaskia happend in the middle ages in Poland. There was a city with a huge castle which would've ended up as the capital of Poland... but the river changed its course by 400 meters so instead of flowing right under the castle you'd have to go through 400 metres of swamp to get to it. Subsequently the court moved to Warsaw and the would be capital barely exists now as a small village with an impressive castle ruin.
That sounds very interesting and I'd like to read more about it, which castle are you referring to?
@@djdjukic I also found it interesting but could only find Krakow, Poznan, Plock, and Gniezno. But those moves were all made because of fire or just the new king wanting it somewhere else.
What a nice bs story. River changes its course like 400m by thousands of years. Polacks,
stop bastardizing eng. speakig yt channels
@@djdjukic it's Czersk
@@Matticitt Ah, Czersk in Mazovia. Thanks, that's a fascinating story.
I love how you make these videos entertaining to watch and not just sit and talk about a car. The coal barge was a nice touch!
wait you can just get into a polestar 2 and drive away without the key cool great to know that😎
@WirelessNut Because nuclear energy isn't a thing at all.... gotcha.
@WirelessNut reminding how many places keep needlessly burning rocks from the ground isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
@@SimJDKS If burning coal is really "needless" then I guess you'd be happy with millions of people without power?
@WirelessNut I guess you don't ever read the comments when EV's are ever involved. as that is a very common "well, here is 17 gotcha's that also ignore reality". sadly even joking about amplifies the stupid.
I nearly had a heart attack driving a Polestar 2 as a rental car because I was backing out of a parking spot and the car stopped so suddenly I was certain I had backed into another car or a post. I got out and there was nothing there. The car must have slammed on the brakes by itself. Glad it's not just me!
Yep, had it happen to me a year or two back.
Luckily I believe it was fixed in an over the air update
So in summary, a 1 year old Polestar 2 is the bargain of the century
Unless you buy it from this dude who bent the steering on it.
Think again
Exactly, their high-end specs with most options can go for 25-30K. making them some of the best value EV's.
I will probably wait until the refresh is 2-3 years old and get one, after a similar price drop.
i know, I am so excited to get one of these for like $20k or less
I am so glad I found your channel many years ago. A real person speaking about their doubt, concerns, experience and first of all joy of cars, and everything else.
I have to admit you can make even the sponsored parts watchable.
I only found it this year and has been immensely enjoying. I found it through Technology Connections and I absolutely love those two guys and wish I had something to bring to the table.
Your ads are the only ones I don't skip through. You always make them fun!
Same here. My spons0rblock add-on skips automatically but on both his channels I always revert the jump.
I wonder have there ever been electric Model A? Like delivery cars and so on?
Likewise!
Same. Even though I live in Europe, so they don't work for me!
@@paulhorn2665 Not from the factory, but I'm working with a guy right now to transplant a Tesla drivetrain into a Model A.
This has to be one of the most entertaining reviews I’ve ever heard. The sticker part was hilarious!
For anyone wondering the one petal driving braking at high SOC/low battery temp Tesla USED TO limit the regen braking with no compensation from the actual brakes. Fairly recently they updated and now you can turn on the option to use the physical brake pads to have a consistent braking experience like he describes having with the Polestar.
That’s cool. I will try and turn that on in my Model 3.
I WISH the bolt did that...
Yeah it works really well too. Barely notice the use of real brakes.
This should be good to prevent the brakes from rusting away.
pedal
Really enjoyed the little bits of history and scenery in this one. Makes it not just a video about a car.
*I just sat in one at the dealer. I am 6"6" tall and I felt like a big grasshopper shoved into a small match box. NOT FOR TALL PEOPLE!!! I ended up with a Telsa 3 and I have plenty of room including my son who is 7" tall. (P.S. I did buy a KIA EV6 at first and it have total Electrical failure after only 3 weeks ownership and 500 miles and the dealer said it would take 5 months to fix so it had a MAJOR factory defect of some kind!!! Dealer refunded my purchase price only AFTER I spent $2000.00 to hire a real scary Lawyer and he faxed them a nasty letter! Kia is too new at the electric car game so better give them 5 more years to catch up or end up being their Guinea Pig like I was!!!)*
Polestar: it's an electric vehicle so it saves the planet!
Also Polestar: Oh you want a simple service? We'll just needlessly ship it across the country and then ship it back. No big deal
I bet that takes a wee bit of diesel
To be fair, my car is an edge case
@@agingwheels I dont know it is an edge case, curbs and wives are facts of life.
@@christopherwhull Well, I don't think the average person lives in rural Missouri, either.
Yeah that is really weird, in my country it's done by the standard Volvo service centers. Not sure why that is not the case in the US.
I've had my P*2 (2022, dual motor, LR, but not performance pkg) for a bit over a year now and apart from occasionally staying offline for the whole duration of a drive, I've never experienced any issues, but I've only driven 15000km. I love this car!
It's wild to me that your nice weather efficiency is less than my winter efficiency in my MachE. I didn't realize the Mustang was particularly efficient for an EV.
yeah it is Ford pulled out all the stops with the MachE cause they want to get some ev sales this time with there new ev's
@@raven4k998 And they're still losing money on them even though they're pretty expensive.
The Mach-E isn’t particularly efficient. The Polestar is REALLY inefficient.
Yeah, my Leaf normally gets 4.1, and if I drive conservatively I can get 4.5.
My M3 RWD I pull on a really good 70MPH highway run is around 5 M/KWh
On a not good day when it’s nasty out and I run the heat instead of the fans it’s around 4 to 4.2
6:13 A noise that kind of sounds like tire noise that developed soon after a big shock load could be a damaged wheel bearing (Brinelling damage). If the rotor is warped again, the hub part of it could be bent as well.
With the wheel bearing possibly being damaged and polestar having variable power steering assist I think they call it progressive steering assist. It might be freaking out the system causing the steering wheel to hang up in a certain spot. Or not who knows 🙃
I HATE the new trend of having no start procedure. I should be able to turn the car OFF and ON. Even my Bolt (which DOES have a start button) doesn't FULLY turn off, so if it's doing some glitchy bullshit there is no way of rebooting the system other than walking away from it for an unspecified amount of time or disconnecting the auxiliary battery.
You realize they do have an on off button right??
In case you need it: The glitchy entertainment system can be reset by holding down the play, previous, and next buttons until the screen blanks.
Teslas do have a "Fully power off, damnit!" button. It's in the Service menu.
I used it once to install a mod, but other than that I've never needed it, as neither of my two Teslas have ever "done some glitchy bullshit".
@@CO-go1sd You realize he literally said that doesn't turn it all the way off right??
@@Travis0palzae Yeah I recently discovered that in a forum post and it does help with many issues. It sucks that they don't put the reset procedure anywhere in the manual.
It's good to know that as an Alfa Romeo owner considering a Polestar 2, the ownership experience won't change much. Random weird stuff being inaccurate or not quite working correctly, but also not quite broken, few dealerships, lighting money on fire in depreciation -- all the same.
🤣😂👌
Funny enough the dealership problem doesnt exist here in switzerland , i can just bring it to a certified volvo dealership and they do the servicing etc.
BUT the smaller issues i can agree with there are some but tbh they were and still are not a dealbreaker for me, i just love my PS .
WHAT HOW volvo is one of the best manufacturers on the planet who were known for there indestructibility how is that possible?
@@speedman69420They got bought by the Chinese.
Sounds more like a FIAT. We all know what that means.
For the steering 'look -up', it happens to my Hyundai Kona electric too. Thought I was crazy, Thank You Dr. Dunn.
Damn, wonky steering happens in my 2019 fusion.
Occasionally going around a curve it fights me and wants to continue straight.
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Sheesh I’d be quite upset not to feel in full control of my steering, even when all autosteer-type functions are off…
I remember having a 1990s Ford Taurus with wonky steering. The variable assist varied in the middle of a turn. I now have a car with a gas pedal that sticks when I've had it on cruise (fortunately it sticks in the off position, not down). I wouldn't want that in my steering.
On the steering sticking point... my Volt does this, too. I attribute it to the electric power steering. It's not on all the time like a traditional powre steering system, so you HAVE to cross some sort of threshold for the power steering to kick on. And you can feel that little gap between no power assist, and power assist.
Electric power steering has come a long way, but it still needs some refinement.
My Hyundai iX20 (model first introduced 2011) does have full electric power steering and I never experienced anything like this. I suspect all of the affected cars use the same parts from one manufacturer, thus this annoying behaviour can be found on many cars from different car brands. So far in the comments were mentioned:
- Volvo XC60 and XC90 (year 2020+) + Polestar 2
- Hyundai Kona
- Chevy Volt
Finland mentioned! To the market! 🥳🇫🇮
BTW Volvo dealers DO service Polestars here.
I also thought that was an odd point when ours is always done at a Volvo dealer and they’re all over the place. Heck, we even got a top of the line XC90 as a courtesy car which wasn’t bad. I think in Europe it’s a no brainer to get the polestar, but bad planning, availability, and geography in the US makes it much harder.
finland doesn't exist, it's a fake country
@@puddycat2325 If you think the geography of the US makes it bad, try Canada. In Ontario, the furthest north there is a Volvo dealer is Newmarket. Going north from there and it is a void. If you are headed towards northwestern Ontario, the next Volvo dealer is Winnipeg, Manitoba, which is well over a thousand miles away.
@@michaeltutty1540 I’d suggest the alternative in Canada is an ICE vehicle rather than a tesla as I imagine the charging infrastructure isn’t great either, especially further north. But then I’d always argue you should never stoop as low as buying a tesla.
SUOMI!
on 10:22 you made me do a double take and a proper laugh with the warm countries comment. Well played mr @AgingWheels
Well ... problem is he´s totally wrong. Those countries are so high on electric cars only because of HUGE incentives to buy them (government literally pays you to buy them, have huge advantages in parking, use special lanes, e.t.c.) and HUGE taxes for buying ICE cars.
@@Reonnor he's not wrong. He didn't say why they were preferred, only that they do have a lot of them.
@@Reonnor The purchase incentives, parking incentives and special lanes are mostly a Norway thing only, I'm in Finland (one of those top countries) and we have next to none of that. For a short period in a year you can apply for a 2000€ (meaningless sum) grant for EVs only under 50k, and next to none of the EVs sold here are under 50k. So there might be other reasons in those other countries too if they don't have Norways huge incentives either.
But, you are right that ICE car taxation at purchase is huge, not yearly taxation which is around the same with EVs and fuel is expensive but so is electricity. How that ICE car purchase tax affects the market, however is that premium cars (Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, etc) that normally have large engines are taxed more than volume cars and the adoption of EVs has skyrocketed with models like the i4, EQS, and Porsche Taycan as although they're still expensive, they are nowhere near the price of the equivalent model with a gasoline/diesel engine and in countries like ours with low density, everyone who can afford a new car has a house and can easily charge at home, and PHEVs are garbage so why bother.
Volume cars, compacts and the like the purchase tax added to the price is really minimal, so EVs are noticeably more expensive but among the middle-upper class they get massive discounts with premium cars, you'll save loads by going EQS SUV (a larger car!) instead of GLE or by going Taycan instead of Panamera.
@@shroomyesc Incentives for EVs are not really a thing in Sweden either. The government recently removed the grant for purchasing new EVs. However gas prices are high, charging is widespread and lots of people are wanting to invest in renewables.
I deliver EVs around the country for customers and it is not unusual to see public charging stations in remote villages.
And Denmark is pretty warm
As an Ohioan who is looking at electric cars, knowing the service center is near me this is good news for me.
As someone from Michigan I both hate and respect you.
Greetings from the UK - I just want to say that I love watching your videos. You make me laugh out loud, you really do. My best LOL moment other than "...it's not drive", is definitely "shut up! It's my money!" You genius man! All the very best to you and your family and Happy Easter, while we're at it. 🙂
Our family were early Kaskaskia residents. During one of the floods, they moved a bunch of the graves across the river, and that is where some of them are buried now.
So glad you're back to releasing videos more regularly, I'm always hoping there's a video of yours waiting in my queue.
Thank you for sharing your real-world experience!!!!
I bought a new Victory motorcycle for $23,000 and 4 years and 38k mi later I sold it for $6,000. You made me feel better about my purchase, thank you Robert.
I know of even worse. The first owner of my Mitsubishi i-MiEV bought it for probably close to the $28,000 list price, and four years and 10k miles (and another owner) later I bought it for $4500.
regarding the usage metric, the reason most countries don't do mpgs or the electric equivalent is that the math is misleading. as per engineering explained on youtube via motorauthority, "Increasing the mpg of two cars by the same amount ... doesn't mean they save the same amount of fuel. A gain of 1 mpg will equate to more fuel savings in a car that started out getting 5 mpg than a car that started out getting 50 mpg."
That's a great video. I use an app to track mileage and fuel efficiency and have converted the units over to gallons/100mi.
I used to explain how mpg is misleading by using an example. Take a family with two cars, a sedan that gets 20mpg, and a pickup that gets 10mpg. Both are driven the same distance, 10,000 mi/year. They can replace the car with a hybrid that gets 40mpg, or a new pickup that gets 20mpg. Which option will save more fuel. Everyone picked replacing the car as that sees a 20mpg improvement versus only 10 with the pickup. I would then do the maths showing them that replacing the pickup actually saves more. Even after working through the math with them, some people still didn't believe.
Good info. I rented a Polestar in Dallas in January and was getting about 30.0 kWh/100mi. Temperatures were between 60 and 80F and I did a mix of local and highway. I was impressed. I also just bought an XC40 Recharge (same battery and motors as this) and it’s not as efficient as this, but it also hasn’t really warmed up yet where I live. I’ll have to wait until the later spring and summer to pass judgment on the efficiency.
In this episode: learning firsthand the sorrow of a car loan‘s remaining value staying above the depreciation costs.
When they will literally run the term of the loan out to 120 months, or 10 years, you'd better get used to it and you'd better get used to never actually owning your vehicle.
I hope there isn't a clause in the finance deal about excess mileage. I once bought an 11 month ex lease car and it had a big sticker next to the mile-o-meter saying. "Mileage must not exceed 15000 miles. Penalties apply if exceeded."
Don't buy, get a fixed-term contract hire, if they still do those.
@@eekee6034 don’t know about the US, but they’re the majority of the new car market in the UK. Usually with a purchase option at the end of the term so you can decide later rather than today.
@@kaitlyn__L Good to know it's still around!
Man I just love the variety of content. Please don't stop uploading and being you lol. 😂
I love the shipstation logo drifting to the right on the screen lol. I hate ads but damn that got me laughing. Lol nice
Those tires really matter on these things when it comes to efficiency. I went from having generic all seasons get 4 mi/kwh on my LEAF to cross climate 2's getting 2.5-3 mi/kwh.
Not making that mistake again. Probs going for a low RR, or regular all season for my next set of tires to get 4 mi/kwh again, or higher.
Yeah I hated the Ecopia's because they didn't wear well, but only the michelin energy savers are close in terms of efficiency. I replaced the ecopias with Continentals, which rode better, lasted longer, had better traction in the snow, and were even cheaper, but the range was 15 percent less.
interesting, I heard people loving the Cross Climate 2's for everything from better traction, ride, and gas mileage vs oem tires across the board on ICE vehicles
@@Daniel-it1dp they don't give you better mileage than a Bridgestone ecopia or Michelin energy saver. Economy more of a priority for EVs than ICE vehicles though.
@@Daniel-it1dp Oh yeah, they're great tires for everything else. But for efficiency they let me down.
4:20 you're describing the exact problem I have with my Volvo XC40 Recharge. It's not a permanent problem but it happens from time to time and it's super annoying. So this is definitely a Volvo thing, not just Polestar.
Makes sense, they're built on the same platform
I'm guessing it's an electric power steering issue. Either a motor problem or a software/sensor problem. i bet they have the same unit.
This is most likely a Bosch problem. Lucas Electrics invented darkness but Robert Bosch refined and perfected it.
@@alexcrouse I was going to post the same. It most likely has drive by wire which means it uses a variable steering ratio. Any number of things could make it change ratio's, including bad software.
This is by far the largest annoyance for me on my polestar 2. I enjoy nitpicking, but I'd greatly prefer this 'stuck' feeling not be there.
A week ago, I'd have argued that the pilot package is silly.
I drove a rental Pasaat from Connecticut to Maine and back in one day yesterday, and while the lane keeping was irritating, the adaptive cruise control was utterly priceless, I want to retrofit it into my 2002 Outback now. I loved it.
Not having it in Drive is a little bit like when you’re lining up the circular saw to the workpiece, carefully squeezing the trigger and then nothing happens because you didn’t put a battery in it.
I’d buy this over a Model 3 because I like Volvos and the guy that runs Tesla is such a basket case that I couldn’t bring myself to buy a car from him. Oh and the Polestar has proper door handles.
The door handles is one of the big things stopping me, a Niro EV owner, from considering any of the current new Hyundai/Kia 800V cars. Pretty, fast charging, lots of nice quality of life stuff like built in 120V AC outlets, but _sucky door handles_.
Have to agree, Elon is a horrible person and he screws with the cars and charges everyone for things that should be included, then takes them away after you paid for them.
The tesla door handles become very natural after a week of ownership. I forget they are odd until someone else comments about them. I'll take a minor efficiency increase over the life of the car. Potato tomatoes i guess.
I spent half my life struggling to get used to anything at all, and now I'm amazed at what I can adapt to! It's really weird. I decided to learn APL programming one day -- it's all weird symbols -- and now I can type about 100 symbols I can't remember the names or uses of! ;) More practically, I bought a bike with a CVT, a little concerned that I'd have trouble putting it in the right gear ratio without stops or an indicator, but I get it right about half the time and it doesn't take a second to change when I don't. On a car, I've got to admit that I love small silly stylistic features.
I have a Polestar 2 at 23,000 miles and completely agree with all your pros and cons. When it comes down to it, the PS2 is gorgeously designed and I really enjoy supporting the lesser-known EVs.
Got my Ioniq 5 about the same time you got your Polestar, put just over 28,000 miles. It's my favorite car I've ever owned. I've seen some real savings and am very pleased with it. Not saying everyone should go EV but you should definitely look into it if you are in the market to buy a new car.
I'm very happy for you! I'm a big fan of Hyundai and Kia!
But for now until the infrastructure becomes such that you can charge your EV car at every turnpike exit that it might be better to have a PHEV rather than an EV at this point.
This is not me second guessing your comment. This is just me thinking about the infrastructure we have in the US right now and probably for the next 5 years.
My brother recently made it from Pennsylvania down to Texas on an EV car so maybe I am mistaken. ❤
@@kylemorg EVs are fine for highway travel. It's when you get off the highway and out into rural and remote areas where you start to have trouble. I'm in no hurry to get rid of my gas car for that reason. I go up in the mountains a couple times per year where there are no chargers and no EVs.
99% of my charging has been done at home. Not to say that don’t need more fast chargers but it’s only an issue on road trips and if you can’t charge at home. We really don’t need as many fast chargers as gas stations since you can charger wherever there is power. It really is a change in mindset.
Really appreciate this real world review. My wife and I have always found Volvos (and now Polestars) attractive but they've always been plagued by electrical gremlins! Sometimes the ignition wouldn't work (at all) or power windows would or wouldn't operate etc so I always had a small box of assorted fuses in the car and became quite adept at changing them. The dealers were never of any help in tracking down the source. Still, we test drove an XC 60 with autostart/stop and during the test drive (brand new!) the car refused to restart at a stop light, finally did in limp mode that allowed us to crawl back to the dealer. The soon-to-be unhappy salesman asked how the drive went....
Still a cool car. Always nice to get a look at how they wear in.
this could very well be the nicest video you have done, i loved the nature and history you shared
Interesting little bit about Kaskaskia, I never noticed that little bit of IL sticking out on the map. Fun video as usual.
In no way disparaging to your other videos, this is the best intro to any of your videos.
Fantastic video! I really appreciate that you got into the details, and highlight what is important in a car. Range really doesn't matter when you got fast charging, and the integration with navigation and battery state is very important that most people don't think about (planned charging time, and preconditioning). I've been sharing the same thoughts as you when people have asked about my Model S.
Really looking forward to the bus EV :-)
still researching EVs and it's difficult to find useful, critical, but balanced Tesla videos. Are you saying Tesla DOES properly integrate navigation with battery state, etc? My impression was that it does but common complaint is that they use their own system as opposed to Google/Apple software.
A life spent making mistakes is not only more honourable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing.
We saw a Polestar in the wild yesterday! So cool. We still love our Bolt EUV.
A little jealous of the Bolt EUV drivers right now. I had no idea it existed when I was shopping, and it ticks every single box on my wishlist for an EV, and at about 1/2 the price I paid for a Tesla.
I see Polestars all the time. There again I work next door to a Volvo dealer where these do get serviced in the U.K. Amusingly one of the people who works there has a BMW iX although the same group has a BMW dealership elsewhere. Being in Europe I have never seen a Bolt.
hey samsies re the EUV. love me that ~4.5 efficiency!
@@MrDuncl If you were in continental Europe you might have seen an Opel Ampera-e, which was a rebadged Bolt. But they never bothered selling it in the UK and even discontinued it in Europe, despite a lot of people wanting to buy it.
literally the only guy i can listen to talk about electric cars without cringing. funny, informative and factual. good job
Best UA-cam channel period! I always smile when watching.
I rented a polestar two for a trip from Los Angeles to San Diego because my Fiat 500 E would’ve been a ridiculous choice for that trip with only roughly 80 miles of range. I agree with most of what is being said here from that trip. First of all, going from 40 mph to 80 mph in the pole star is ridiculously enjoyable. I have never driven a car that is so confident and surging in highway traffic, it’s just fantastic. 0 to 30 acceleration is also very good, and so far from a pure driving perspective. It’s pretty great.
I also agree with the criticism of the seat as button function of the car. I sort of got used to it. But it is not confidence building, and it’s disheartening to hear that that has other problems.
I also agree with the assessment that , the trip planning system is excellent. I almost didn’t have to think about it, and even when there were problems with some of the charging stations that I encountered along the way, the system still was able to assist me. The only feature I wish it had was the ability for Folks who were using it to let you know that some of the charging stations have problems. That function, alone, if done, accurately and consistently, would make a huge difference to using Evies and charging them. I imagine getting to a gas station and finding it’s closed, or that it has fewer working pumps, would be just as useful. But for gas vehicles, these days, there are so many gas stations, then in most instances, it’s not an issue.
And by the way, when people complain that there aren’t enough, EV, charging stations in certain places, I would just point out that there are portions of the country where they are one or possibly two gas stations at the most remote location that you might have to get to. I have just as often had an issue where I had to make sure to stop at one particular gas station going between California and Arizona or California, Nevada, and if that gas station had not been open, I would’ve been screwed. The issue exists no matter what kind of vehicle you’re driving, but the evidence of the structure has not been built out enough yet.
The only thing I would add to this assessment is that I find invisibility in a pole star, not to be great, and it also feels like a very bottom heavy Vehicle. On the one hand, that can feel cozy and safe. On the other hand, much like a lot of today’s vehicles unfortunately, I feel like I’m somewhat less aware or able to see the vehicles around me. The back up camera was quite good, but I still much prefer the ability to see around with my own eyes rather than through cameras. I know that with current safety standards, AB and C pillars are thicker, and it’s much harder to have rollover protection, and still have a lot of window glass. But I’m really hoping that sometime in the near future, some manufacture works out how to get the same kind of strength with a lot less material, so that we can go back to being able to see out the back of our vehicles. A back up camera is not a panacea, and brings with it. It’s own challenges.
Well, you've convinced me. My next new car is going to be a Jeep Wrangler with a V6 and manual transmission and no electric drive. However, I will keep my Prius C as a daily since it is so cheap to run. And yes, AC is the range killer.
I support this decision
17:00: "Not a Tesla" is a HUGE selling point, though.
Yep. Especially since Tesla is known for shite customer service and build quality is still an issue even on the updated model 3 which they claimed has solved the build quality issues.
Re. the over-the-air performance boost, I totally agree it's your own money to spend, but the business model isn't one I want to be normalized. This is legitimately one of the things that's making it harder for me to want to buy a Polestar later this year. I won't buy a crippled product if I have a choice in the matter. But I realize that's my choice...
It makes a little more sense on '23 and up models because you can buy the power upgrade for $1200 without having to spend the full $5300 on the performance pack. I have mixed feelings on the concept as a whole though
Tesla is no different. Heck, Intel is trying this (again) with some cpus. It's maddening.
Hewlett Packard / Keysight have been doing this for years on their test equipment. Need an extra 300MHz or a decode option on your oscilloscope. Pay a few thousands of dollars and they send you a product key to enable the feature that was already there.
Yep, I do not want this practice to become normalized. Paying for something already in the vehicle... No way.
@@Not31337 Tesla's features and upgrade behavior is horrendous and their quality certainly isn't better than Polestar, even though they should have learned by now.
I feel the highway stealth thing, while not as significant I've humbled a few people with a 12 year old v6 accord, those things are always overlooked lmao.
The window when the Polestar was the optimal choice was really super narrow and you happened to land right on that local maximum.
That said, it is currently *THE* play for a used EV.
Thanks for pointing out that you're driving a coal powered car. And I mean this in the most non-snarky way possible. Love you videos...and your humor...and your honesty. So, I had a '77 240D for a while, great car...you should get one of those.
"Shut up, my money." Best response possible.
I LOVED that intro. I don't know why, but it was great with a bit of US history to start with!
This is fascinating. I own a Jaguar Ipace. It continually surpasses the EPA estimate of 234 unless it’s dead of winter and cold as a witches you know what, and I precondition it for a long period of time. I guess this is where the saying “you get what you pay for” comes from. 40k miles in, and only been for one non required service interval. That was minor for the 12v accessory battery. Just replaced tires, and we’re back racking up miles and driving by gas stations.
An iPace…. Oof
@@ultrastoat3298what's wrong with the ipace? It looks great.
@@Somehandle16 every single one has been recalled over fire hazard and they are discontinuing it because it’s been an unmitigated financial disaster and abysmal sales. But glad you think it looks nice.
@@ultrastoat3298 I thought that was caused by lg Chem batteries but were fixed by an ota update?
When it launched in 2018 as one of the first electric card from a legacy automaker it was a very decent car I thought. Now the competition has definitely caught up and far surpassed it in innovation. (I'd rather take an ev6 or model 3 at a similar price any day) but it wasn't a disaster like you described I thought?
Also JLR sales have been very poor across the board which is why they're trying to do a relaunch in 2025(?) But it was interesting they also included the ipace in that too.
@@Somehandle16 They were LG batteries. Their “solution” was to take 25% of the battery capacity away. Which is not a solution at all and is why they are in a class action lawsuit now. This was a huge L for them.
Love your upbeat humour your posting are always entertaining 😁😁👍👍
My new car has that weird steering wheel stiffness as well at times. Just randomly happens for a while. I think it's maybe the electric power steering not being sensitive enough to kick in until you push hard enough in a direction. It's really annoying at times when you're just one handing the wheel and want to turn it very slightly
But that's weird to think that low steering assistance would cause the steering wheel to be harder to turn, since when you are at highway speeds, it should be easy to turn the steering wheel even without _any_ steering assist, right?
At least that is what I've heard. When cars lacked power steering long ago, it was difficult to turn the wheel at city speeds, but easier at high speeds.
So it has to be the mechanism they use for lane keep assist, that holds the wheel in place or moves the wheel for you, causing the wheel to stick in place. At least my theory.
@@zzoinks I forgot the lane keep! Makes more sense thinking about it. Since I plan on ripping that system out entirety after the warranty period, maybe that will stop this issue from occuring
I had a problem like that on a Honda Jazz/Fit but it wasn't intermittent. They had a flaw in the design of the steering rack which caused the bearing block that presses the rack against the pinion to wear a dip into the rack so that it would stick in the centre position. Not noticeable around town but very annoying on the motorway as it made it impossible to make small corrections.
7:54 best advert ever, a ad fer shipping services and with a tugboat shipping barges up the great Mississippi river, 👌
Not skipping this ad, can't help it, I love shipping 🤣
That is a lot of mileage in one year, wow.
Great review, interesting comparison to Tesla. And yes, lane-keeping (et al) SHOULD be standard.
I feel like it should be standard on everyone else's vehicles :) keep all those old folks and distracted teenagers in their lanes
I think passive should be standard, at least. I've hated the few times I've driven vehicles with active lane assist, since it's often reading the lanes wrong and you have to fight it a bit too long before it lets off
Unfortunately in places like Winnipeg, lane keeping is not especially helpful for most of the year - either the lane markings are covered in snow or they haven't been re-painted until August after being scraped away by the snow plows.
Lane keeping and what have you can be DANGEROUS, particularly when there is a construction realignment of the lanes. It does not read orange markings if the white markings are still visible. I had a significant fight to maintain my lane in a Kia that I rented. It damned near ran me under a transport truck. Keep it away from me. I will not have it.
Lane keeping is for people who shouldn't drive.
The number of EV’s in Norway is crazy. I travel there a few times a month and a few years ago it was unusual if I didn’t see a couple of EV’s in my short 10 minute walk from the railway station to the office. Now I count the petrol cars, yeah it’s that much of a difference, the ratio is close to 50/50 now and I reckon in a couple of years it’ll be 80/20 in the EV’s favour. Some countries lead, others follow…
What works for sparsely populated Norway won't necessarily work in other countries. Also, EVs are still white man's toys, and Norway is heavily white.
Doesnt noeway give incredible tax advatages and discounts when buying an EV?
Norway is one of the richest countrys on earth!
@@jeffw1267What are you even trying to say? The US, Canada and Australia are other “sparsely populated” countries. Wouldn't EV's make even more sense in densely poulated countries like the Netherlands, Italy or Japan where distances are much shorter? And black/brown people can't drive EVs..?
Who would have thought that rich country would have a lot of expensive cars on the road.
Starts playing music in the middle of the night... did you name your car "Christine"?
Hello. I am a Swede and I live by the arctic circle. The EV's don't work that great up here during winters compared to pre AdBlue diesel cars with fuel heaters or engine heaters.
There are long distances to everywhere you want to drive and temperatures down to and below -40C/F can happen here and there. There is a reason that we have so many test tracks on the lakes and in the forests, and that so many international car manufacturers come here to winter test their cars every year.
The cold is a problem for all cars but the electric cars with all the fancy electric stuff and big screens are the worst. things freeze and screens get super slow to update when they are really cold.
But it is not winter all year around. The other six months electric cars work great up here.
I liked this video. The anger and negativity makes me feel like I am listening so a fellow northern swede. Focusing on the negative is more helpful than focusing on the things that are great. I care about the stuff that will annoy me or will make me regret buying a thing for a lot of money.
Again, great video. You rock!
Awesome car. I drove one for two years and I sort of miss it. But it had lots of (minor) software issues. Cost per km was a lot higher because electricity is 10 times more expensive here. Best thing about my Polestar were the pixel headlights which yours does not have, I think.
These videos are terrific! Way more people should subscribe to this channel. My Mach-E is jealous of your mapping with integrated SoC data.
Saw my first Polestar 2 last week in the back water where I live , Beautiful car & YES one pedal driving is the absolute shizz 😎 I have a MG ZS EV.
Time is the most valuable thing a man can spend.
Brilliant video- first time viewer and your humorous, self-deprecating yet informative review of this car had me learning and chuckling the entire time. Subbed!
As someone who made a purchase of an EV that makes almost zero sense on paper I feel I can relate. Our 2021 Mini Cooper SE, bought used for just about full MSRP at the height of COVID supply chain problems, has an unbelievably pitiful range of ~200 km, didn’t qualify for any incentives, is so rare the dealer can’t even service it properly and has such a small cargo area you have to put the seats down if you’ve bought more than 4 bags of groceries….
Luckily it’s so much fun to drive I can’t wipe the grin off my face. Plus, well, it isn’t like every other EV on the road - I.e. Hyundai or Tesla..so its throwback styling is oddly refreshing. Plus it costs about $3/ day to drive. In other words I absolutely love this dumb little car. Maybe our next EV will be more practical.
I had the same steering problem with my Toyota. It's the power steering motor, it needs to be replaced but it's not a danger.
I cant believe how much the car depreciated. Love the video and the perspective. Hope that Rivian works out! Buying a Tesla was the best decision I have ever made. Bought in 2019 with autopilot when it cost $6000 and couldn't be happier years later.
This videos give me Doug and his Aston Martin nostalgia vibes - hope you see the same success!
0-60 is great to write on paper. 40-70 is useful every time you drive.
@@SimuLord Your house can be one foot off the freeway since that usually gets subtracted from the 0-60 times.
I use 0-50 just as much as I use 70-130, exiting intersections and such. I kinda disagree with you there, and find 0-100 to be a very good benchmark.
I've got a rear suspension squeaks as well (different cars, and they are old), but it's the rubber mount at the top of the shocks rubbing on the frame. Put in a piece of cloth as a buffer and it's fine until the cloth wears through. It's fun when you have to ride in the trunk with someone else driving to figure out where noises are coming from :)
Thanks Robert. Entertaining as usual, though as a 60 plus guy who's never had to grapple with anything other than metric, every time you said kw/h per 100 miles, my brain tried to explode 😊
I'm glad that this video makes the REAL LIFE point of what RANGE really means.
My 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid had an EPA of 20 MPG (City & Hwy, not an average). It also had a 26 Gallon tank.
Logic dictates that the vehicle would be able to achieve 520 miles of range. I have never gotten that, even on the flattest roads, driving solely on the freeway (at 70 MPH or less).
If I drive 80-100% City, I get up to 400 miles
If I drive 80-100% Hwy, I get up to 500 miles (assuming mostly no headwind, and mostly no mountains)
If I drive 80-100% Hwy with Mountains and/ or headwinds, it's closer to City driving.
So I can assume with a full tank, that I can get up to 400 miles, regardless of what the fuel gage reads.
Electric Vehicles could have MUCH larger batteries, but so far only the Lucid Air has done that.
Eventually, I believe that auto manufacturers will put 350-500 mile range battery-packs in their EVs
And Eventually, there we will settle on a standard for Charging Station quality. But we're still in the learning phases.
Great year-in-review for ownership of the Polestar. Valid criticisms, but it seems like overall a positive experience?
It's easy to look at "the road not taken" and only compare it to the complaints you have about the choice you made, because often the things you'd complain about in the other alternative aren't obvious until you've lived it.
Definitely a positive experience! I'd still recommend this car from a happiness perspective. It just falls short by the numbers
@@agingwheels Due to the price cuts Teslas have depreciated by a similar amount.
First time viewer from down under and Model 3 owner. Love your commentary about your experience with the Polestar.
Probably should have gotten the 300dollar mudflap option by the looks of those sidepanels
So in other words this car is perfect, it contains all the little faults and issues you've come to expect from all of your cars.
*I just sat in one at the dealer. I am 6"6" tall and I felt like a big grasshopper shoved into a small match box. NOT FOR TALL PEOPLE!!! I ended up with a Telsa 3 and I have plenty of room including my son who is 7" tall. (P.S. I did buy a KIA EV6 at first and it have total Electrical failure after only 3 weeks ownership and 500 miles and the dealer said it would take 5 months to fix so it had a MAJOR factory defect of some kind!!! Dealer refunded my purchase price only AFTER I spent $2000.00 to hire a real scary Lawyer and he faxed them a nasty letter! Kia is too new at the electric car game so better give them 5 more years to catch up or end up being their Guinea Pig like I was!!!)*
I agree 100% with you about not liking the way Teslas look - the only one that I personally like is the Model S.
0:58 And Im here to inform people that Tesla has been found to not only let any employee look at recordings made from your Tesla at will, but also to allow software to figure out where that recording was from, And allow Teslas to make recording any time they want, including when the tesla is turned off in your closed garage. Recordings have been made and distributed around the company of naked people walking around their Teslas with no repercussions.
wow.. its been a year already??
"There goes power floating by", they way you said it gave me a good chuckle.
i had audi that kept warping one rotor it turned out to be bent hub flange
Thank you for sharing your valuable honest experience.
Love your videos. I've been to Kaskaskia and have seen the eagles there!
Was introduced to you from your roadtrip with Alex. Really some great editing and interesting interjections. Certainly earned a subscribe.
You: (mentions Missouri's coal percentage)
Alec: "HMMMGRMBLEGRRRR"
Alec lives in Northern Illinois which has a much higher nuclear share of base capacity.
@@norlockv Oh I know, but I know he'd get just as grumbly about outdated power infrastructure as I do. XD
I've enjoyed this video very much. At last, a completely, 100% honest review from an actual owner that is not afraid to admit mistakes and is clearly unbiased. Thank you Robert!
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I drive a polestar 2 as well, fascinatingly, haven't had any of the issues you reported. I've had a couple small ones - rear suspension creaks over bumps and the back windows make a high pitched sound when rolled down.
BTW, Polestar 2 does get the tax credit, but only if you lease the car, now.
Oh, and one other note - I have the AWD version with Pilot pack only. I am able to routinely get around 240-250 miles in good weather. I think your performance package might be hurting the range.
Especially doing 38k miles in just a year would probably have a hard hit on its value, thought the depreciation would bite on this one.
Wow. I appreciate your review so much! I was thinking of making this my next car, but the maintenance not being convenient and wide spread is a deal breaker for me 🙏🏼
Love the history facts btw, you should start every video with a little bit of fun trivia.
Great commentary and super self awareness! Good job!
Wheel bearing damage maybe? Causing heat and warping rotar?
I've driven a 2024 LRSM for about 2000 miles now and am very happy with the efficiency. I'm averaging 22.5 kWh/100 mi so far, or about 10% better than the EPA estimate, and have gotten as low as 20.2 over a 100 mile interval, including freeway driving. I'm sure the mild California climate and 19" wheels help, but the EPA numbers are certainly not bogus in my experience.