Why the Jehovah's Witnesses lost their funding in Norway

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  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 2 роки тому +29

    One down, over 200 more countries to go. Expect "New Light" soon from the Governing Body.

  • @mind_control_really_sucks_
    @mind_control_really_sucks_ 2 роки тому +23

    Its frightening seeing people put religious freedom over the extreme emotional harm and suffering certain religious groups put members thru. This woman on the other hand and the lawmakers actually care to not let victims be neglected

    • @MrWoodhaven11421
      @MrWoodhaven11421 2 роки тому +8

      Good to see something being done,that cult is a horror, more people speak out the better thank you

  • @Lovealwayswins1
    @Lovealwayswins1 Рік тому +1

    God bless Norway and all countries who protect these poor children in this cult!

  • @carldavid7225
    @carldavid7225 Рік тому +2

    They don't deserve a dime. As a matter of fact, they said that they would not change their laws. That two Witness rule was applicable for the Jewish. We are no longer under those laws. Jesus fulfilled ALL those laws.

  • @ValentinaKovtun-eb1jm
    @ValentinaKovtun-eb1jm Рік тому

    @AGoddess Three elders in the Russian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Oslo were replaced a year ago. Russian-speaking does not mean Russian (Russian-speaking may be from Latin America, Georgia, etc., as it was in Oslo). The elders did not swear at all and did not order gifts in Ukraine (like other members of the Assembly) for themselves, but they avoided discussions with Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany, because they accused Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany of apostasy, since believers from Germany never avoided preaching, they were never refugees (like an elder in Oslo, etc.), the Germans did not swear like prominent members of the Assembly, the Germans did not order gifts for the Germans from Ukrainians in Ukraine, the Germans did not promise to beat (beat) the citizens of Ukraine living in Norway (citizens of Ukraine from Crimea complained about Jehovah's Witnesses from Voronezh. Believers "refugees" did not share a fishing rod with Crimeans and promised to beat them), the Germans did not order wine for LGBT representatives to celebrate their birthday, the Germans did not allow themselves to be massaged in the nude naked Norwegians, the Germans did not have 2 citizenships - Russian and Ukrainian (with the provision of Jehovah's Witnesses from Voronezh and a third - a residence permit for refugee from the Russian Federation in Norway. Although it is well known that no one persecutes Jehovah's Witnesses in Ukraine. It is well known that the payment of the state fee does not lead to the loss of the Ukrainian passport, no matter how much you would like it. It is well known that the application for withdrawal from Ukrainian citizenship does not lead to the loss of Ukrainian citizenship), the Germans did not prevent Ukrainians from studying the Bible (interestingly, open gays (Note: dozens of media outlets about Russian gays admitted to the Oslo Assembly) in the Russian Assembly were also happy with them did not interfere with participation in the Assembly) and the elder even personally instructed them to prevent Ukrainians from studying the Bible with the Russian Assembly of Oslo and much more .... Of course, those who denounced Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany as apostasy came from the capital of fake Jehovah's Witnesses - Voronezh)) ) One such refugee - "Jehovah's Witness" was split by the Norwegian Assembly itself in Stavanger, and she urgently thought of moving further from there to the expanses of Norway ......

  • @oldpersonuser
    @oldpersonuser 2 роки тому +2

    Can you post the source of the video? I'm trying to get video from the court case and it's been difficult to find (language barrier)

  • @ValentinaKovtun-eb1jm
    @ValentinaKovtun-eb1jm Рік тому

    Я украинская медсестра. Живу в Германии. Имела "счастье" общаться с членом русского Собрания JW в Осло (Норвегия). Так, эта эстонка Миляна крыла матом, как сапожник... В немецких собраниях такого не встречала...

    • @ValentinaKovtun-eb1jm
      @ValentinaKovtun-eb1jm Рік тому

      @AGoddess Three elders in the Russian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Oslo were replaced a year ago. Russian-speaking does not mean Russian (Russian-speaking may be from Latin America, Georgia, etc., as it was in Oslo). The elders did not swear at all and did not order gifts in Ukraine (like other members of the Assembly) for themselves, but they avoided discussions with Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany, because they accused Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany of apostasy, since believers from Germany never avoided preaching, they were never refugees (like an elder in Oslo, etc.), the Germans did not swear like prominent members of the Assembly, the Germans did not order gifts for the Germans from Ukrainians in Ukraine, the Germans did not promise to beat (beat) the citizens of Ukraine living in Norway (citizens of Ukraine from Crimea complained about Jehovah's Witnesses from Voronezh. Believers "refugees" did not share a fishing rod with Crimeans and promised to beat them), the Germans did not order wine for LGBT representatives to celebrate their birthday, the Germans did not allow themselves to be massaged in the nude naked Norwegians, the Germans did not have 2 citizenships - Russian and Ukrainian (with the provision of Jehovah's Witnesses from Voronezh and a third - a residence permit for refugee from the Russian Federation in Norway. Although it is well known that no one persecutes Jehovah's Witnesses in Ukraine. It is well known that the payment of the state fee does not lead to the loss of the Ukrainian passport, no matter how much you would like it. It is well known that the application for withdrawal from Ukrainian citizenship does not lead to the loss of Ukrainian citizenship), the Germans did not prevent Ukrainians from studying the Bible (interestingly, open gays (Note: dozens of media outlets about Russian gays admitted to the Oslo Assembly) in the Russian Assembly were also happy with them did not interfere with participation in the Assembly) and the elder even personally instructed them to prevent Ukrainians from studying the Bible with the Russian Assembly of Oslo and much more .... Of course, those who denounced Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany as apostasy came from the capital of fake Jehovah's Witnesses - Voronezh)) ) One such refugee - "Jehovah's Witness" was split by the Norwegian Assembly itself in Stavanger, and she urgently thought of moving further from there to the expanses of Norway ......

  • @nojw7940
    @nojw7940 2 роки тому +3

    What kind of decision was made when?????
    What exactly was decided by whom?
    Any other sources?
    Any official statement (in english)???

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 2 роки тому +12

      The Norwegian government took away their funding from Jehovah's Witnesses because of the shunning policy, which is illegal in that country.

    • @apostababelindajames7461
      @apostababelindajames7461 2 роки тому +2

      If you put on the closed captains [CC] it say's that you'll see Norwegion words, BUT YOU WON'T. You are going to read what they are discussing in English. 😀 Give it a try.

    • @faderman7456
      @faderman7456  2 роки тому +1

      @@apostababelindajames7461 Yes, it's my bad, I somehow managed to mark them as Norwegian when I subbed. Can't find a way to change it, and haven't found the time to do it all over again...

    • @apostababelindajames7461
      @apostababelindajames7461 2 роки тому +3

      @@faderman7456 I'm just *amazed* at that you were able to do *what you have done in the first place.* That is a real gift that you have shared with us.
      *THANK YOU* 😘 *SO MUCH!*
      Great Job! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @johncolage1651
    @johncolage1651 10 місяців тому

    Even a Christian cannot brush aside the worship of Jehovah as God. In Revelation 1:5 the Son of God called himself "Jesus Christ, 'The Faithful Witness.'" When on earth as a man he was a Jew, an Israelite, to whose nation the words of Isaiah 43:10 were written: "'You are my witnesses, 'is the utterance of Jehovah, 'even my servant whom I have chosen. '" Jesus demonstrated that he was a faithful and true witness of Jehovah God. His genuine disciples today must be the same kind of witnesses, Jehovah's.

  • @langeit
    @langeit 2 роки тому +1

    At last...

  • @MyYT62
    @MyYT62 2 роки тому +4

    Sadly I don’t understand Norwegian 😩

    • @BiteYerBumHard
      @BiteYerBumHard 2 роки тому +2

      Click on the cog/gear icon and select the subtitles option.

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd 2 роки тому +1

      Can you read English?

    • @josecarlosrodriguez9876
      @josecarlosrodriguez9876 Рік тому

      @@BiteYerBumHard it shows only Norwegian subtitles on my end :(

    • @BiteYerBumHard
      @BiteYerBumHard Рік тому +1

      @@josecarlosrodriguez9876 right. Here's the trick. Click on the cog symbol and select subtitles. You should be able to find English there.

  • @eduardogoiii1000
    @eduardogoiii1000 2 роки тому

    In my understanding, the funding is a privilege provided by the government for their own citizens who are members of any religious group that is registered in that country. The funds is given individually or every citizen in some countries in Western Europe.
    Swedish or Norwegian citizens who are members of the JWs may have applied because that is in accordance with their law but it does not mean that the organization itself is the one who demanded that they should be given funding. The Swedish and Norwegian citizens who are members of the JWs are not solely representing the entire JWs organization. If they were approved then by the government because they are citizens who meet the criterias of what is prescribed in the law. If government policies change and citizens who are members of JWs are no longer qualified for government funding that will not be an issue of church operation because the JWs operation did not rely on that funding especially if they are not complaining or insisting that they should be given funds or charity funds from the government.
    One of the reasons is that they are politically neutral, do not vote and do not join the military to fight in any war for national interest.
    Luke 6:35, 46,47; Mat. 5:43,44
    "But LOVE your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked...
    “WHY DO YOU CALL ME, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and DO NOT DO WHAT I SAY? As for everyone who comes to me and hears my words and puts them into practice,"
    It is useless to say that a government respects the separation of Church and the State to promote religious freedom but the government interferes the teaching and beliefs of a religious group that are peace loving citizens and does not violate the law as a whole. It is impossible to have freedom of religion if the government holds a religion on the neck for bribing its members.
    Mark 12:17
    New Living Translation
    “Well, then,” Jesus said, “give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and GIVE TO GOD WHAT BELONGS TO GOD.” His reply completely amazed them.
    Colossians 3:23,24
    NWT Bible
    "WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING, WORK AT IT WHOLE-SOULED AS FOR JEHOVAH, and NOT FOR MEN, for you know that it is from Jehovah you will receive the inheritance as a reward."
    Matthew 6:24
    New International Version
    “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. YOU CANNOT SERVE BOTH GOD AND MONEY."
    Ever since the early Christians had not had such a view that their faith should be in accordance with the government. They were considered illegal and were sentenced to death by the government. They have continued their faith despite of government violent opposition for their teaching many sacrifices their lives to bring the good news of the Kingdom of God to our generation.

    • @FirsteMann1929
      @FirsteMann1929 2 роки тому +4

      If they stuck with preaching from the Bible this would never had happened.

    • @bjrnsvendsen7727
      @bjrnsvendsen7727 2 роки тому

      If the watchtower give they’re members freedom to keep friends and family, they will lose power. It’s all about controlling behaviour to get obedient followers. So i wouldn’t wait for «the god of the watchtower» to cast new light over this issue.

  • @Syed_12
    @Syed_12 2 роки тому

    ( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? )
    Quran 2:62
    '' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANY On judgement day )
    Note: The above VERSE saying is that on judgement day >ANY< who believe in God and do good deeds on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve.
    ( According to the Quran Christians and Jews worship TRUE God )
    (Quran 3:113-114)
    '' Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book ( Christians and Jews ) are a portion that stand (For the right) They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.''
    Note: According to the Quran that Jesus is not God nevertheless Christians still worship one TRUE God.
    ( >Allah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques )
    Quran 22:40
    [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might.
    Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ?
    ( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? )
    Quran 5 48
    ''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions
    Islam mean "submission" to God
    ( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God.)
    Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God?
    Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work.
    Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God )
    The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by good deeds )
    God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submmission to Him.
    ( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa )
    Quran 5:5
    ''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.''
    Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newest religion.
    Question to Muslim and Christian:
    Does God / Allah only answer your pray ?
    And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray?
    Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity?
    Quran 5:48
    '' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ( ie Muslim) wishful thinking > NOR < by that of the People of the Scripture ( ie Christian and Jew ) Whoever does a wrong will be recompensed for it, and he will not find besides God a protector or a helper.
    Question to Sunni Muslim:
    Do you believe only Muslim go to Heaven and which Sunni sect of Muslim go to heaven? { There are many Sunni Muslim sects } Hanafi? Shafi? Hanbali? Maliki? Salafi? Sufi ? etc?
    Did Allah chooses you to be born in Muslim family or it was your choice ?
    Did non-Muslim chosed to be born in non-Muslim family ?
    Muslim you are going to heaven NOT because you chose Islam to be your religion BUT because you born in Muslim family.... correct ?
    Non-Muslim will go to hellfire because they born in non-Muslim family.... correct?
    It is fair for non-Muslim to find truth outside their religion to go to Heaven while you don't ?
    ( You '' MUST '' know how to become > qualified < for to enter Paradise )
    On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils.
    '' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
    '' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
    The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work