@@DamonNomad82 There is no academic criteria for a "cult" in the same in the same way there is no criteria for "a true religion. However, JWs simply don't fit the traditional concept of a "cult". If you ask people for their definition of the term, many will not be able to give you a clear cut answer. Maybe some vague and broad definition at best, which could be applied to an endless series of social constructs. To me, cults are a collective version of what we call the anti-socials/reprobates. In other words, if cults were an individual, they would be behind bars. Groups such as: Heavens Gate The Branch Dravidians Solar temple It's not hard to see what these groups are. I don't see my religion as a cult. My opinion. If someone else says it is one, that's their opinion. Important Note: Having a medical preference or choosing your associates wisely does NOT make you a cult member.
@@sethmoking Escape? You simply write a letter expressing your desire to leave, then...you leave. Seems A LOT of people don't know what a cult actually is. 🤦🏻♂️
“Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”” (Matthew 11:28-30 ESVi)
I heard something from a fairly well known person, she and her young family attended the JW assembly for a number of years. This followed the dissolution of the local gospel church. She didn't pay much attention to the JW theology, HER FAMILY WANTED COMMUNITY. ( they were eventually asked to leave). But to me this a a key insight how some of the fringe groups attract young families that has been forgotten by mainstream denominations. They offer a strong community for the whole family to be part of, not just Sunday services. So i share it for those who have a burden for those lost in certain joyless, punitive groups.
I agree, the sense of community is strong. However, if anyone is thinking in joining just for the community aspect; 2 things to keep in mind: 1) you will be encourage to stop associating and having friendship with anyone who is not a JW (including family members). This makes sense for them as they believe only JWs will survive the armaggedon. 2) If you decide to leave, even if you haven't commit any sin (disfellowshipped) you will be shunned by all JWs, at this point; your entire social circle. My advice, think twice.
IF THIS FACT CAN BE PROVEN WRONG THEN THE JOB WOULD BE WELL DONE IN ANSWERING THIS QUESTION: HOW CAN JESUS IF HE IS GOD HAVE BROTHERS? THE FATHER CAN HAVE NO BROTHERS/EQUALS!!! BUT JESUS CAN AND DOES JESUS HAD A PRE-HUMAN EXISTENCE BEFORE - HE BECAME FLESH - MEANING THAT HE WAS 100% HUMAN WHEN ON EARTH - IN THE SAME WAY THAT THOSE WHO GO TO HEAVEN WILL BECOME 100% ANGELIC WHEN THEY GO TO HEAVEN ALTHOUGH HAVING ONCE BEEN 100% HUMAN - LIKEWISE JESUS WAS RAISED BACK TO HIS PRE-EXISTING SPIRIT FORM UPON BEING RESURRECTED RETURNING TO BEING 100% ANGELIC: “Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.” Luke 20:36 THAT IS WHY THOSE WHO WILL GO TO HEAVEN WILL BE JESUS' SPIRIT-BEGOTTEN BROTHERS WHO WILL RULE WITH HIM IN HIS HEAVENLY KINGDOM ALSO AS SONS OF GOD: " Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17 THAT IS WHY AT REVELATION 3:12 JESUS BY DECLARING HIMSELF TO BE “THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR” IS REVEALING HIMSELF TO BE AN ANGELIC SON OF GOD AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE READ IN HEBREWS 2:10,11 “For it was fitting that the one (JEHOVAH GOD) for whom and through whom all things exist, in bringing many sons (JESUS AND HIS BROTHERS) to glory, should make the Chief Agent (JESUS) of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11 For both the one (JEHOVAH GOD) who is sanctifying and those who are being sanctified (JESUS AND HIS BROTHERS) all stem from one (JEHOVAH GOD), and for this reason (JESUS) he is not ashamed to call them brothers,” "So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, what is spiritual is not first. What is physical is first, and afterward what is spiritual. 47 The first man is from the earth and made of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48 Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust; and like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the one made of dust, we will bear also the image of the heavenly one." 1 Corinthians 15:45-49
A VERY EARLY PROPHECY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WOULD SEND AN ANGEL / STAR TO EARTH TO BECOME A MAN: “I will see him, but not now; I will behold him, but not soon. A star will come out of Jacob, And a scepter will rise out of Israel. And he will certainly break apart the forehead of Moʹab And the skull of all the sons of tumult.” Numbers 24:17 IT'S TIME FOR TRINITARIANS TO STOP LYING TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AND REPENT BECAUSE IT IS BLASPHEMY TO ATTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO GOD BEYOND WHAT HE SAYS BY MEANS OF HIS ANGELIC "WORD" (JESUS) AND IN HIS WRITTEN WORD THE BIBLE DEAR FATHER I PRAYER IN JESUS NAME THAT SPIRITUAL COMPREHENSION WILL BE GRANTED TO ALL WHO ARE SEEKING THE TRUTH AS JESUS PRAYED FOR ALL HUMANS SAYING: “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.” MAY HONEST-HEARTED ONES FIND THE TRUTH AND ACCEPT IT IN JESUS NAME - AMEN
@@majafleur9646 SADLY SATAN HAS THIS SYSTEM OF HIS SO SATURATED WITH HIS LIE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY DON'T KNOW HOW TO RECOGNIZE WHAT THE TRUTH IS AND AND IF THEY HAVE FOUND IT - HOW TO STAND FAST IN IT “Where anyone hears the word of the Kingdom but does not get the sense of it, the wicked one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart; this is the one sown alongside the road. 20 As for the one sown on rocky ground, this is the one hearing the word and at once accepting it with joy. 21 Yet, he has no root in himself but continues for a time, and after tribulation or persecution has arisen on account of the word, he is at once stumbled. 22 As for the one sown among the thorns, this is the one hearing the word, but the anxiety of this system of things and the deceptive power of riches choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful. 23 As for the one sown upon the fine soil, this is the one hearing the word and getting the sense of it, who really does bear fruit and produces, this one 100 times more, that one 60, the other 30.” Matthew 13:19-23 “the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive, because it neither sees it nor knows it…” John 14:17 ”So down the great dragon+ was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him." Revelation 12:9,10; “Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.” Matthew 7:13,14; “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able” Luke 13:24 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’” Matthew 7:21-23
Very true. Also true is the JW missionaries are HIGHLY trained with answers to common objections so if one chooses to engage with them in a dialogue, be prepared to defend your position. Their views as easy to show are anti biblical but they are masters of dialogue so some study of their theological points of views are highly encouraged. One point you could easily get them on is when you open the door, and they offer you a watchtower tract, offer them some literature as well...they will likely reject it and say they have already read it or know it...then respond with well then why should I accept your literature. The vast history of failed prophecies is enough for most people to see this is not a truth bearing organization.
Yes. Offering them your literature will work absolutely to perfection. They are forbidden from reading it. Offering to pray with them right there and then and hold hands will cause them to feel awkward. Inviting them to your church will also do it. They are there to convince you why they think they have the truth and why your religion is false and to try to convince you to go and join them. They are not there to exchange ideas freely with somebody and mutually respect one another’s views.
@@rumrunner8019 that really won’t work. Most of them don’t know about it. Especially the young ones. It’s not really spoken about. You have to dig in the literature to find it. And, besides, they will just tell you that the doctrine has changed since then because new light has come to them since then showing them the error of that teaching. The religion is set up perfectly for doctrinal changes because they see themselves as emerging from false teaching and having to constantly cleanse themselves and elements of false religion. This allows them to always undergo changes and to reject any prior teaching as something that is a remnant of false religion they have since shed.
I once invited a couple of older ladies into my home. I then spent the next hour trying to convince them to watch a video of mine that discusses different Bible versions. They wouldn't do it. I finally gave up on them and said goodbye. Now that I know they aren't interested in any sort of give and take or discussion, I won't give them any more of my time.
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 Don't WHAT? Just FYI...I gave up religion over 60 years ago as my lifetime interest in astronomy grew, the staggering enormity of the two trillion galaxy universe we all reside within, our total insignificance within it .....and, have been an atheist for going on 65 years now.
I once went on a first date with a guy who said for us to date I’d have to convert to JW. I said thanks but no thanks and never saw him again. My gramma visibly went pale when I told her how my date went lol. I was no religion at the time. I met a nice boy and got married and am now a Bible believing Christian who believes in salvation through faith in the grace of God & Jesus Christ’s shed blood on the cross.
That's how I lost my best friend so many years ago. She met a boy who told her the same. Unfortunately, she became one, brought another friend with her. They tried to get me; didn't work. They went to the Kingdom Hall, I went to church and believe that you are saved by His grace, not by works. I tried to point them in the right direction by pointing out major red flags. I was called an apostate and shunning began forthwith. I do believe they are still in. Hope they find the truth before it's too late. Glad you said "no."
Dear Sonny Stephens 3753, You've engaged in much believing but will need to put forth the effort *doing* God's *work:* to study, teach, and preach. How is that going for you? To whom do you teach? Who are you saving?
@@eddyvideostar great point you’re right. My husband (and I) minster to a group of around 2500 🙏🏼😊 and our little ones of course. My husband is considering starting his own UA-cam ministry which I encourage fully. He will be the one on the videos but I’ll help him every way I can. ❤️
@@sonnystephens3753 I appreciate your response. What denomination does he minister to the 2500 people? It sounds like he is going back to the churchy, pastor-type thing.
@@eddyvideostar mid acts dispensationalism. Right division of the Bible. Do you know about it? Admittedly most of the ministry we’ve done so far centers around helping people assert their religious freedom in the face of medical mandates. It’s something I feel very strongly about. In 2021 I saw many people loosing their jobs putting themselves and their families at risk and I prayed to God to be able to help them in some way. Through the grace of God these 2500+ people have crossed our path since 2021 taking with them the knowledge that God is the final authority and they also took the information they needed to assert their right to religious exemption from any medical procedures they’re morally and spiritually opposed to. My husband’s UA-cam ministry will be focused on helping people rightly divide the Bible with a strong emphasis on the books of the Apostle Paul (the apostle to the gentiles) & living in the dispensation of Grave as a part of the body of Christ. 😊🙏🏼
Before my bother killed himself he said “ it’s too late to get reinstated. The ends coming and I can’t get my life together before paradise “. That church killed. My brother
The testimony of countless victims of this appalling cult stand as a witness against this organisation. Families torn asunder. Friendships destroyed. Marriages ruined. Documented child abuse. The trail of destruction left by the watchtower organisation reveals a darkness deep within.
Matt 10:34 Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. You were saying? The truth of God's word will cause divisions, and many will prefer the world ruled by Satan of worship of God.
Almost a sure sign of a cult...rejection of reading contradicting literature. Basically check your brain at the door and believe only what we say...quite different than Paul's commendation of the Berean believers.
There is no academic criteria for a "cult" in the same in the same way there is no criteria for "a true religion. However, JWs simply don't fit the traditional concept of a "cult". If you ask people for their definition of the term, many will not be able to give you a clear cut answer. Maybe some vague and broad definition at best, which could be applied to an endless series of social constructs. To me, cults are a collective version of what we call the anti-socials/reprobates. In other words, if cults were an individual, they would be behind bars. Groups such as: Heavens Gate The Branch Dravidians Solar temple It's not hard to see what these groups are. I don't see my religion as a cult. My opinion. If someone else says it is one, that's their opinion. Important Note: Having a medical preference or choosing your associates wisely does NOT make you a cult member.
Do not many Evangelicals do the same thing? Sure, take your Bible with you, but after you walk through the door they are going to tell you exactly how to think. And when they start raising their voices when explaining certain passages, that *might* be a _red flag_ Just something to think about.
True, not getting blood transfusions is no a cultish sign, but rejecting even reading opposing literature and the emphasis on distancing yourself from family if they don't belong to the org is. Now one could say those are Christian tenants too? Not so. Paul commends the bereans for checking on his teaching's against an authoritative source. And while Jesus does speak of leaving father and mother for Him in context, it means to put Jesus as #1, not to cut off ties with family if they remain non Christian.@@foodforlaughs2015
@@mattmurdock2868 He's saying that he is a Christian. Jehovah is just a name of God derived from the tetragrammaton, using it does not automatically make you a JW.
@@mattmurdock2868 elaborate please. this term is found to be from a spanish monk in the 12th century who translatet the tetragrammaton in Iehova (latin). And it is popular among maaany christians. Think of this american hymn "days of Elijah" for example.
Well done. Of necessity, due to time constraints and everything, it is 1000 miles wide and a centimeter deep but, you hit everything that was important.
IF THIS FACT CAN BE PROVEN WRONG THEN THE JOB WOULD BE WELL DONE IN ANSWERING THIS QUESTION: HOW CAN JESUS IF HE IS GOD HAVE BROTHERS? THE FATHER CAN HAVE NO BROTHERS/EQUALS!!! BUT JESUS CAN AND DOES JESUS HAD A PRE-HUMAN EXISTENCE BEFORE - HE BECAME FLESH - MEANING THAT HE WAS 100% HUMAN WHEN ON EARTH - IN THE SAME WAY THAT THOSE WHO GO TO HEAVEN WILL BECOME 100% ANGELIC WHEN THEY GO TO HEAVEN ALTHOUGH HAVING ONCE BEEN 100% HUMAN - LIKEWISE JESUS WAS RAISED BACK TO HIS PRE-EXISTING SPIRIT FORM UPON BEING RESURRECTED RETURNING TO BEING 100% ANGELIC: “Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.” Luke 20:36 THAT IS WHY THOSE WHO WILL GO TO HEAVEN WILL BE JESUS' SPIRIT-BEGOTTEN BROTHERS WHO WILL RULE WITH HIM IN HIS HEAVENLY KINGDOM ALSO AS SONS OF GOD: " Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17 THAT IS WHY AT REVELATION 3:12 JESUS BY DECLARING HIMSELF TO BE “THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR” IS REVEALING HIMSELF TO BE AN ANGELIC SON OF GOD AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE READ IN HEBREWS 2:10,11 “For it was fitting that the one (JEHOVAH GOD) for whom and through whom all things exist, in bringing many sons (JESUS AND HIS BROTHERS) to glory, should make the Chief Agent (JESUS) of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11 For both the one (JEHOVAH GOD) who is sanctifying and those who are being sanctified (JESUS AND HIS BROTHERS) all stem from one (JEHOVAH GOD), and for this reason (JESUS) he is not ashamed to call them brothers,” "So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, what is spiritual is not first. What is physical is first, and afterward what is spiritual. 47 The first man is from the earth and made of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48 Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust; and like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the one made of dust, we will bear also the image of the heavenly one." 1 Corinthians 15:45-49
The only change i would've made as an ex-jw is the part about adult baptism. While Jehovah's Witnesses will publicly declare that they do not baptize children, there are multiple examples even in their own literature of children as young as 7 or 8 being baptized.
From one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I appreciate that you can present a view that contradicts your own without getting derogatory. Thank you. However, I'd want to add a bit of comment: 1- I appreciate the opening, that Russell was just a guy with a publishing company. He was NOT a saint or prophet or anything of the sort. He just started a movement to question popular opinion and tradition and get back to what Christ actually taught in the bible. 2- I wouldn't really say "The Watchtower sets the doctrine of the group." The Watchtower magazine is a study guide. Things explicitly in the bible are doctrine. It's fair that two very important concepts where we differ from popular churches is that we are not trinitarian and believe that salvation is a resurrection to eternal life, and the lack of salvation is simply the lack of life: death. Not dying and spending eternity in heaven/hell. The book of Daniel (particularly chapter 4) is doctrinally important, but the idea that it points to 1914 (and what it means to point to 1914) is a human attempt to explain what Daniel 4 could mean. Daniel 4 is doctrine, our attempt to understand it is fallible speculation. 3- Same with the "Doctrines are established by it's governing body" statement. Their role is to organize the congregation and approve study material, not to set doctrine. They have responsibility, not authority. We're expected to give prayerful consideration to the studies offered, but they've said repeatedly over the last century that they are NOT infallible, and expect readers to first and foremost be loyal to God above all men, including them. They're not above the congregation, they only have a role of leadership WITHIN the congregation. 4- One amendment to the cross part: We note that the word used is "Stauros." This torture stake could be of any number of shapes, including but not limited to crosses. It COULD have been a simple upright stake. Or tree. Or a fixed Cross, sure. Or an X or a Y or a living tree or anything else. The point is the scripture doesn't specify a shape and we should not fixate on the shape itself, but the meaning of him giving up his life. Personally, what seems to fit the text as written and makes the most logical sense to me is that Jesus did NOT walk up carrying a whole cross OR stake, but was already strapped to a Roman patibulum (a removable crossbeam he'd already be strapped to when lead up to a simple permanent stake). 5- Not sure where you get the "God (The Father) has a spirit body and is not present everywhere" statement? 6- The 144,000 are simply the ones described in Revelation chapters 7 and 14. The little flock purchased from the earth to be kingdom priests, as opposed to "the great crowd which no one is able to number." Whatever their role is, or the duration of their role is up for speculation as it's only briefly mentioned in a couple parts in Revelation. But yes, we believe in the resurrection. 7- The "For salvation works are necessary" point also fundamentally misses the point. Salvation is a free gift. But, people who claim to submit to God should ACTUALLY submit to God. The full book of Romans clarifies the intricacies of this in very good detail, particularly chapters 5/6. Next few points are pretty fair, although "shunning people who leave" is a bit of a misrepresentation. Only if you were an ordained minister of the church AND you "not only leave," but either live in unrepentant sin or join a contradictory religion, THEN you would be acknowledged as "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" and then congregational ties are severed unless you choose to return. This doesn't mean family ties, it's not grounds for divorce, parents are still responsible to care for their dependents, people should still be courteous, and disfellowshipped people should never be insulted or harassed or badmouthed behind their backs or anything like that. They're just not congregational brothers or sisters, and if they choose to continue coming to meetings, they won't be called on during the study review. 8- "Not allowed to read anti-watchtower literature" is also fair, but sometimes misrepresented. Yes, we read outside literature. We also read literature that disagrees with us. We're advised not to waste our time with literature that's blatantly biased and extremely polemic. If it's intentionally hostile literature intended to tear people down... we consider it best to just avoid it. Respectful disagreements in the realm of 1 Peter 3:15 is FINE. We WANT people to ask questions and look into the bible, even if it's to disprove us. We DON'T want to just "convert people to our dogma." We want people to get closer to God and study the truth. Everyone's imperfect, and to whatever extent we're wrong, we would RATHER you believe "the truth" than "our opinion." Because we've critically analyzed all available interpretations of scripture for so long, we're rather confident that we're the closest to what Jesus taught available today. If there were a group more accurately following Jesus, a faithful Jehovah's Witness would be obligated to go to that group and follow Jesus the best they can.
Thanks for your detailed comment. I will address 4 and 5 above. For #4, I think watchtower literature is explicitly against the "cross" shape. For example: Watchtower March 15, 1957, “Did Christ Die on a Cross?”, wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1957201 "Clearly there is no Scriptural support for the traditional cross as a symbol of Christianity. Then how can its adoption by professed Christians be accounted for? It was borrowed from the surrounding pagans. It is another one of the many paganisms that the early apostate Christians adopted so as to appeal to the pagans and to be more like them. … Thus we see the Scriptures, the facts of history and reason uniting to testify that Christ did not die on a cross but upon an upright pole or stake, a stauros, xylon, crux. Also, that regardless of its form, it is to be abhorred rather than venerated. In keeping with these facts the New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures renders stauros as “torture stake” and xylon as “stake,” when it refers to the instrument on which Christ died. " For #5 Watchtower February 15, 1981, “How Real is God to You?”, wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1981122 Actually, by teaching that God is omnipresent Christendom has confused matters and made it more difficult for God to be real to his worshipers. How could God be present everywhere at the same time? God is a spirit Person, which means that he does not have a material body, but a spiritual one. A spirit has a body? Yes, for we read, “If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one.” (1 Cor. 15:44; John 4:24) God being an individual, a Person with a spirit body, has a place where he resides, and so he could not be at any other place at the same time.
@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 The Truth is Christ Jesus (John 14:6). He is the Eternal Word of God, begotten of the very nature of the Father, who in time became incarnate for us and our salvation, dying for us and bearing our sin and death in His own person. He arose triumphant over these, raising up the temple of humanity He had assumed, and now He sits at His Father’s right hand until all of His foes are made a footstool for His feet.
@@justanotherbaptistjew5659 ,....That does not answer my question. There are millions of people that claim to have this truth, but where are they? Are they in the church? If so, what church? What denomination? What is it called? Where are the believers with the real truth found?
@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 there many sects and independents groups they call themselves Christ Church. Christ says very clear one baptism, one Church one faith not thousands, in the apostles time they were churches, other mistake The Church is us the Christians as a whole the so call church is the building where the church members are meet to worship God and the doctrine. In the apostles era the were autonomous congregations in different cities like Macedonia , Ephesus, Rome, Calcedonia but all of them were in Union each other and keep in touch by letters and the apostles visited it. Now thousands declare they own the true and they do not attach to a council because they do not had any responsibility to others.😢😢😱😱😡😡
The Jehovah witnesses leaders called the governing body demands unquestionable obedience and complete trust from their members. Here is a quote from their publication ”All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."Watchtower 2013 Nov 15 p.20.
Eh, it's easy to take things out of context. The governing body doesn't claim infallability like the Pope, for instance. Nearly ever denomination, except those free churches/non denominational ones maybe, would agree that following instructions from a central administration is a good idea. That's kinda the point of a religious organisation.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Honestly, i dont know what context that can be taken out of. It seems pretty straightforward. The Infallibility of the pope is far more limited then what was being claimed in the watchtower. Lol
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts what do you understand about this quotes from the Jehovah witnesses publications: "However, the Governing Body are appointed through the holy spirit under the direction of Jehovah God and Jesus Christ." Watchtower 1990 Mar 15 p.18 "To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization ( Jehovah witnesses) and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12 …to leave Jehovah's organization ( Jehovah witnesses)... we would lose not only the privilege of doing God's will but also the hope of life in God's new world." Watchtower 2016 Jun study ed p.26
@HEisTheWay, From a JW: No. Articles are written by fallible people. They SHOULD be respected and given prayerful consideration. We do not give "unquestionable obedience" to any human. Period. None. However, the world has always had some "weird times," where we're expected to take care of ourselves and trust local secular authorities. However, the book of Revelation DOES describe a Great tribulation where secular authorities will be quite ineffective... if REALLY weird stuff happens, we should be prepared to look for advice from the congregation. OF course, the congregation is still human, and any advice they give is just advice to be given prayerful consideration while trusting in God... not "unquestionable obedience" to people.
Agreed, had to see what they believe real quick, an old friend converted I guess into Jehovah’s Witness and their spouse is diagnosed with cancer so they are posting a bunch about it, he’s getting blood transfusion because of his sickness but it said that’s forbidden in this video so weird.
I live in the neighborhood where it all started in the Northside of Pittsburgh. Theres a plaquer down the street marking the place where Russell and the bible students would meet.
A VERY EARLY PROPHECY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WOULD SEND AN ANGEL / STAR TO EARTH TO BECOME A MAN: “I will see him, but not now; I will behold him, but not soon. A star will come out of Jacob, And a scepter will rise out of Israel. And he will certainly break apart the forehead of Moʹab And the skull of all the sons of tumult.” Numbers 24:17 IT'S TIME FOR TRINITARIANS TO STOP LYING TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AND REPENT BECAUSE IT IS BLASPHEMY TO ATTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO GOD BEYOND WHAT HE SAYS BY MEANS OF HIS ANGELIC "WORD" (JESUS) AND IN HIS WRITTEN WORD THE BIBLE DEAR FATHER I PRAYER IN JESUS NAME THAT SPIRITUAL COMPREHENSION WILL BE GRANTED TO ALL WHO ARE SEEKING THE TRUTH AS JESUS PRAYED FOR ALL HUMANS SAYING: “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.” MAY HONEST-HEARTED ONES FIND THE TRUTH AND ACCEPT IT IN JESUS NAME - AMEN
They are literally forbidden from reading anything that opposes or criticizes the Society? That is terrifying. That alone sets off so many alarm bells. I can’t imagine what it must be like to be trapped in something like that, or be disowned by your family for trying to think objectively and search for truth. Poor souls.
You said "They are literally forbidden from reading anything that opposes or criticizes the Society?" If it comes from known apostates, yes. You can probably show me nothing about JW that I have not seen before, whether true or false. Much of it is like this: Matt 11:18 Likewise, John came neither eating nor drinking, but people say, ‘He has a demon.’ 19 The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.”
@@777Tralfaz777 I’m not sure I understand the connection you are making with that passage. What I meant by my criticism was that any organization that binds the consciences of its members to never be exposed to any opposing views is suspicious. If they really had confidence that what they believe and teach is true, why would they absolutely prohibit this? How are you ever supposed to evaluate the truthfulness of your belief if you are never allowed to even be exposed to any opposing claims? I’m not denying the role of faith. But any organization can trap anybody into believing absolutely anything they want that way, because you wouldn’t be exposed to anything other than what they tell you. This is how the communist regimes of the early 20th century operated (and how North Korea still operates!). Finally, I feel that the society is really doing its members a disservice, especially in this age of the internet where so much information is available to anybody at all who wants to look for it. Wouldn’t it be better for the society to engage with the arguments against them to prepare their believers to be able to provide an answer for their faith?
@@777Tralfaz777 The governing body has told jws not look at negative Media reports about the cult. That's not an apostate source. Also if the apostate is correct, then it's not apostate. JWs are simply wrong. Like the 587/607 thing that you'll soon see I'm right. JWs are what is warned about at Luke 21:8. They are a doomsday cult. Plain and simple. How many times have they talked about the end and Armageddon. ITS ALL THEY DO. Jesus instructions, simple. Do not go after them. Following that could have saved thousands, no, 10s of thousands of lives. You mocked me when I said JW doctrine killed more JWs than Hitler. That's 100% true. Hitler kills 1200 JWs. Jws have at times, banned: vaccines, organ transplants, blood fractions. Currently blood 4 main components is the only deadly teaching left. The blood ban probably killed more than 1200 in the last 5 years. Easily. So why laugh, these are your bros and sisters DYING. Why do I care more? Deadly cult man. I'm telling you, you gotta wake up. I was like you once. I came to forums and UA-cam to dismantle apostates. Then I realized exjws are correct. This is a dangerous cult. Truth doesn't change. Old light, is being gas lighted into believing w new truth. It's all wrong.
@@Hopmeister96 You said "I’m not sure I understand the connection you are making with that passage." It fits many of the critiques people levy. We are exposed to opposing views all the time. We just do not drink them in. You said "why would they absolutely prohibit this?" An overstatement to be sure. They give reasons for caution. But this "forbidding" and "prohibit" language is extreme and false. You said "How are you ever supposed to evaluate the truthfulness of your belief if you are never allowed to even be exposed to any opposing claims?" I have investigated. You said "especially in this age of the internet where so much information is available to anybody at all who wants to look for it" ??? And you think this is only positive? Is Satan misleading the entire inhabited Earth?
Here's the most succinct differentiation between Jehovah's Witnesses and mainstream Christianity: Jehovah's Witnesses believe the Father alone is God (John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, and the entire Hebrew bible). And that it's important to know that he has a personal name (Exodus 3:15 and Jeremiah 16:21). (Although we're not picky about different dialects pronouncing it differently) We believe Jesus is the only-begotten son of God, our messiah, lord, king, and high priest to his God and ours. We believe Jesus actually emptied himself to be born on earth (not leaving a divine nature in heaven), and actually died (not leaving parts alive), and was actually resurrected. We believe the wages of sin is death (not hell), and the gift God offers is eternal life through an actual resurrection (Romans 6:23) as opposed to everyone dying and being separated into pleasant or torturous deaths. Further the promise in Revelation 21:3-4 that there will be no more mourning or crying or pain is directly incompatible with the concept of ongoing torment in a hell. And that it's everyone's job to study the bible and conform themselves to what IT teaches, regardless of how popular or unpopular any human tradition is.
If Jehovah's Witnesses conform to the teachings of the Bible, why is the NWT not in agreement with the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts? Why do they use titles like Governing Board, publishers, and Pioneers which come from Corporations? They are not from the Bible. Also, they hate JESUS. When he said not to believe anyone who said he returned invisibly, the Governing Board says that he lied and did return in 1914. JESUS said that his kingdom will have no end and that the gates of Hell can not prevail against it, but your Governing Board says that the church was destroyed and JESUS chose the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society to be his new church which makes JESUS a liar.
"My Lord and my God." St Thomas to Jesus. Paul in philippians 2 said that Jesus shared the nature of God. John 1:1 "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God." Jesus to the people, "before Abraham was, I am." Arianism has already been wiped out. Why did you guys bring it back? As to hell, Mathew 8 v "12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” sounds like a literal hell, doesn't it?
There are a couple of very important bullet points that you forgot: - Shunning means it is forbidden for any Jehova's Witness to have any contact with you which means you will lose all family and friends. - If you are sexually abused by a Jehovah's Witness you may not report it to the police or you will be shunned. - If your parents report sexual abuse to the police they too will be shunned. - If you are the abuser just deny it and the church elders will protect you. - If you require a blood transfusion to survive a medical crisis you must choose death instead - or you will be shunned. - If you think these rules mean that our elders are ignoble and wicked then you are most certainly right.
@larysnw418 I am a lifelong atheist who deplores the harm done in the name of fictitious gods. Your denials about the sheltering of sexual abusers are nothing if not wickedness. Your defense of shunning because it's in the bible is equally deplorable and inhumane. Perhaps you have not actually read the bible and are unaware that it is replete with atrocities. We now live in a world of instant global communications and everybody has a video camera in their pocket. The corrupt control of the old men is being exposed as I speak. Here in Canada, we just had a CBC documentary with a full hour of evidence about the ongoing abuses. So welcome to the 21st century - it will not go well for religious cults. I'm sure you are already worried that the Witnesses only retain one third of the people who were raised in the church (Pew Research). That alone speaks volumes.
@larysnw418 "Nothing is being "exposed" in Canada and attempts(unsuccessful) to discredit JWs are nothing new." Your cult is already discredited by the ARC. And, are you enjoying Norway? Also, they have been successful (Look at Spain). "I too deplore the harm done by ped0philes." No, you don't. You shelter them. Look up the ARC? "JWs represent true Christianity." JWs don't represent true Christianity, you need to provide evidence for this claim. "So your statement from Pew research is irrelevant and meaningless." How is it irrelevant and meaningless?
@larysnw418 "If the parents report it to the police they will not be shunned." That is a lie, Larry. If the parents report it to the police they will be shunned. "The elders will not protect a child abuser.." The elders will protect a child abuser. "Taking a blood transfusion doesn't mean they will be shunned." Why are you lying? "I suspect that you're disfellowshipped which would explain your post." How would you know that?
If I understand correctly, a JW would say that only 144,000 "anointed" will _go to Heaven_ to rule with Jesus as some sort of priest-kings. However, John 10:16 mentions "other sheep" which are "not of this fold" (presumably the anointed), "and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd". When (in the video, 1:15) Jesus returns to reign over the Earth, He and the anointed will lead and purify this "other flock" consisting of all the dead who were righteous (but not righteous enough to make the 144,000 list), as well as all the dead who died "unrighteous" but who didn't warrant total anihilation, who will be getting a second chance to hear and obey (again, see the video) and thus join the ranks of the "other flock". Those righteous people who are _alive_ at the time of the Second Coming (and who aren't already part of the anointed) are considered part of the "great crowd" mentioned in the Book of Revelations, but are otherwise in the same boat as the "other flock". When the Millennium ends, Jesus and the anointed will return to Heaven to spend eternity with God, while the much, much larger "other flock" and "great crowd", purified inside and out, will live eternally in a peaceful utopia _on Earth,_ which by then will have been cleaned and restored into an equivalent to the Garden of Eden. As far as _salvation,_ rather than eschatology, JWs seem to subscribe to the "Ransom Theory", i.e. our sins doomed us to die and be eternally separated from God, but Jesus' death freed us and opened the way to Heaven, which would otherwise be entirely inaccessible. Again, this is all just assuming I'm understanding correctly. My understanding of it all is probably little better than yours; I'm just good at finding and summarizing information. Ultimately, I guess it depends on your definition of "saved". Most Christian denominations consider the righteous to be "saved" when they're assured that they'll be spending eternity _in Heaven,_ thus the JW "anointed" would be "saved" and the "other flock" would be in a weird not-quite-saved, not-quite-damned state. The JWs, if I'm not mistaken, would argue that the anointed and the other flock are _both_ "saved", living without sin for all eternity in wonderful lands of perfect peace and joy, it's just that their roles and their ultimate destinations are different.
@@mattmurdock2868 Look up Psalm 83:18 in different Bible translations the God Jehovah is not made up by the Watchtower a simple google search will show you all the Bible’s that use the name starting from William Tyndale’s translation to the King James to the Masoretic Hebrew text that shows you how the YHWH vowels were written to get Jehovah translated in English which many Bible’s replace with Lord and there is dispute whether that is the correct pronunciation but anyone that claims the Watchtower made it up has no idea what they are talking about
@@Johnnywalkerbravo Yes, I understand about the name Jehovah...the god of Watchtower is not the God found in scripture. Moreover, none of the teachings from Watchtower can be found in scripture. The God found in scripture is a Godhead. The name of the Godhead is YHWH. Father. Son. Holy Ghost. These are YHWH, the Godhead. The Watchtower teaches this flawed theology... YHWH =LORD = Father =Jehovah. Of course nothing like that can be found in scripture. Bible =Word of God. NWT=ever changing word of Watchtower.
I’m being forced to be a JW because of my parents (I love them but damn do I hate this religion) and I can confirm I am often told I look or am joyless
You mentioned church of the Nazarene so I followed the link you provided, but there’s no reference there to a JW connection. Please would you elaborate on any connection either historically or as regards beliefs. You’ve got me confused. Thanks.
@@ReadyToHarvest Thanks for that. I was worried that I had approved them wrongly in the past. Keep up the good work. We need to be vigilant in discerning truth from error.
I know this is an older video, so I’m hoping somebody will respond to me. So my old friend who, I won’t give too much detail about his life, I’ll just say every time I hung out with him he was doing hard drugs, not weed, like coke and meth and obviously alcohol. Anyways after not seeing him for over a year, he’s telling me he’s now a Jehovah’s Witness, sharing his testimony, preaching to people. Before I knew he was a JW I thought that was great… till I heard the door to door thing and he confirmed he was a JW. I know how much of a cult they are, I follow a UA-camr that talks about what it’s like and how she still struggles to this day about what she went through. Does anyone have any advice on what I could say to him? Or should I not say anything at all?
If he means alot to you, I would warn him. He might hate you for it but just let him know this cult is being exposed for a lot of unjustified suffering and you don't want him to get wrapped up in something that could damage him later. A warning is all some people need to eventually break out of it.
Don't take this the wrong way,but I think your friend should decide for himself what's best for him as long as it keeps him away from doing drugs and he's happy with his life,and doesn't cause pain to others but overall I think you should listen to his side of the story. Hope this helps you.
I was a jw for 15 years and I still know what happens through family connections and these are correct but 2 of them might need more citations God's body in heaven is more abstract because it is more viewed as his will everywhere so some kind of duality there I'm having a hard time expressing. Also adult baptism only is a rule in print and a new one at that but in practice it is anyone aware enough to answer the elders pre baptism questions with understanding is alowed to get baptized, I have personally witnessed someone as young as 9 take the plunge. and with disfellowshiping only happening to baptised members it has lead to enough teen self-deaths for them to outwardly change the look of that rule
A VERY EARLY PROPHECY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WOULD SEND AN ANGEL / STAR TO EARTH TO BECOME A MAN: “I will see him, but not now; I will behold him, but not soon. A star will come out of Jacob, And a scepter will rise out of Israel. And he will certainly break apart the forehead of Moʹab And the skull of all the sons of tumult.” Numbers 24:17 IT'S TIME FOR TRINITARIANS TO STOP LYING TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AND REPENT BECAUSE IT IS BLASPHEMY TO ATTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO GOD BEYOND WHAT HE SAYS BY MEANS OF HIS ANGELIC "WORD" (JESUS) AND IN HIS WRITTEN WORD THE BIBLE DEAR FATHER I PRAYER IN JESUS NAME THAT SPIRITUAL COMPREHENSION WILL BE GRANTED TO ALL WHO ARE SEEKING THE TRUTH AS JESUS PRAYED FOR ALL HUMANS SAYING: “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.” MAY HONEST-HEARTED ONES FIND THE TRUTH AND ACCEPT IT IN JESUS NAME - AMEN
Informative video. However, JW baptisms aren't restricted to adults. Children may be baptized younger, especially if they grew up in a JW household. Whenever they are deemed mature enough to make the decision. The earliest I've heard of is 12 years old, but I have friends that were 14-16...
My cousin’s wife was nine. Nine! I have personally been in congregations with seven year olds and six year olds getting baptized. I never approved of it even when I was in. I’d frequently get into arguments over it. I can’t think of a single instance in the Bible where a child gets baptized. If we are to use Jesus is our example, he is said to have been 29 years old when he got baptized. In other words, you’re supposed to be old enough to know what you’re getting into and what you are committing to. There’s no way in hell a seven-year-old knows what they’re getting into and what they’re committing to. All they know is everybody is congratulating them and everybody’s pleased with them and thinks they’re awesome. What kid wouldn’t like that?
@@hereweare9096 I am aware of this. They do it for a different reason. Usually, a church that baptizes babies does so in order to save the child by having them be a Christian from the very beginning. Jehovah’s Witnesses reason for baptism is completely different. The reason is that somebody is leaving behind their former life of sin, and embracing a new life wherein they dedicate themselves completely to doing God‘s will as interpreted by the organization,. This usually translates to all the preaching work and upholding, the very strict statutes of the religion. Before they even get baptized, there is a long discourse that they have to listen to in a very public assembly hall type setting. During it, there are three questions that they must answer with a very loud and emphatic, yes while standing before the congregation. One of them involves that they will forever henceforth be identified as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and must adhere to their standards and principles. This is where I have a problem with baptizing children. That is too big of a commitment for a prepubescent child to fully understand. I would even argue that it’s too big for a teenager to understand. This is pretty much where they agree that if they screw up, they are liable to being shunned by everybody else in the religion up to and including their very own parents and siblings.
This is a very good summary, and in 2 minutes flat. I have witnessed to many JWs over the years (they come to me). They freely engage in discussion, but their doctrine is so mismatched to established scripture, I am amazed that they believe what they do. Much of what is presented here is clearly plain nonsense, and there is a lot. Yet I do believe in freedom choice. However talk about commitment. They put many orthodox believers to shame.
They have their own translation of the Bible (New World?). You go in a change of few words of any document, text, contract...presto. The meaning can change big time.
@@bradlong7941 Yes they do, and they are not permitted to use any other translation. Also the verses (especially John 1:1) are doctored to deny the divinity of Christ.
@@malcolmabram2957 it’s not true that they can’t use any translation other than the New World translation. They have an app called the JW Library that has several different Bible translations in it. The king James is fairly frequently quoted especially by the older people who learned the religion before the New World translation came out as is the new international version and the Jerusalem Bible. They use them whenever they express a point More clearly than the New World translation does. I’ve seen this done many times. They also use other translations in different languages whenever there’s not a version of the New World translation in that language. Give you three guesses how I know all this crap.
@@foodforlaughs2015 Did some research, yes they do. Apologies. However, mitigatingly I do have JW friend who says he is 3ncourgaed to use the NW translation.
Just a correction , they dont believe Jesus returned to earth in 1914 , instead that he began ruling from Heaven , turning his attention to earth , specifically in relation to their organisation and the spreading of the gospel during the last days , which they teach also began in 1914 . A point of note : Charles T Russell , who founded the Bible Student Movement , that eventually split from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society , taught that 1914 marked the end of gentile domination over the earth , but specifically in regards to Palestine , with the defeat of the Ottoman Empire , which he believed would lead to the restoration of natural Isreal restored to their homeland . History indicates he was right in that regard . In 1917 , the Belfour declaration was signed , paving the way for Jews to return to Palestine . The rest is history .
The 1914 thing, they revised it when it didn't happen then claim they never said the original version. They have done that multiple times. That specific 'revision' was copied from failed prophesy in the 1800s by Rev. Miller and the Millerites.
@@hadast3806 yes. There’s a lot of debate about that. Private debate. It’s ridiculous and silly. it’s also super dangerous. People have paid with their lives for that believe. Even kids.
I spent quite some time reading over the comments of many people based on this short two Minute video. It amazes me how people can come to a decisive conclusion about a religious organization so quickly. I would hate to see most of these people as jurors in a murder trial of an innocent person. People choose to believe what they want, so long as it suits them! Even if it means ignoring truth or being dishonest. The end of this system will come and so will those who wilfully chose to disregard Gods standards of living. Just like in the days of Noah, you will look at where they were but you will not find them. Amen
*"This chronology is not of man, but of God. Being of divine origin* and divinely corroborated, present-truth chronology stands in a class by itself, absolutely and unqualifiedly correct...." (Watchtower, July 15, 1922) *"The Watchtower is the channel which Jehovah, our God, is using* at this time to in the faithful remnant who are keeping the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Watchtower, August 1, 1930 p. 239) *"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people,* and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 page327 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The "end" did not come. *They were guilty of false prophesying."* (Awake! 1968 October 8 page 23) "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4 *Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower (Yes, expectations with false dates!)
"It is the Day of Vengeance, which began in the world war of 1914 and which *will break like a furious morning storm in 1918.”* (The Finished Mystery, 1917, p. 404) *"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin* against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom." (The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p. 216 1971) [can be found in the book and on their website] "He was laying a foundation for a work *that would be completed in our 20th century".* (Watchtower 1989 Jan 1 p.12) (The 1989 Watchtower used the term "in our 20th century" in the magazine, but this was changed to "in our day" for the bound volume and subsequent CD library and website. Compare the magazine version to the bound volume and website version.) "This was the test - the coming down of fire; and the fulfillment exactly on time has proved that *Pastor Russell was one of God's great reformers and prophets."* Watchtower 1919 Oct 1 p.297 "… the truths I present, as God's mouthpiece…" Zion's Watch Tower 1906 Jul 15 page230 "But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99 *"This chronology is not of man, but of God. Being of divine origin* and divinely corroborated, present-truth chronology stands in a class by itself, absolutely and unqualifiedly correct...." (Watchtower, July 15, 1922) *"The Watchtower is the channel which Jehovah, our God, is using* at this time to in the faithful remnant who are keeping the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Watchtower, August 1, 1930 p. 239) *"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people,* and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 page327 "Jehovah God has made known to his anointed ones in advance what these Scriptures mean." Watchtower 1931 Jun 1 p.160 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The "end" did not come. *They were guilty of false prophesying."* (Awake! 1968 October 8 page 23)
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds." - 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 Galatians 1:8,9 says. "However, even if we or an angel out of heaven we're to declare to you as good news something beyond the good news we declared to you, let him be accursed. (9) As we have said before, I now say again. Whoever is declaring to you as good news something beyond what you accepted, let him be ACCURSED." 1 John 4:1 - Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world. 2 Timothy 2:15 NIV Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 2 Peter 2:1 "However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among YOU. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves." Luke 21:8 "He said: “Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them." Matthew 7:15 "Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves." Matthew 24:11,24 "And many false prophets will arise and mislead many… For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones." "And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak..." Deuteronomy 18:20-22 (Proverbs 3:5) Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 *Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
While it is true that people make quick judgements easily and perhaps unfairly, denying the trinity and still claiming to be Christian just discourages people from hearing them out. It's sort of like denying the virgin birth of Christ or the incarnation.
Very good presentation. There is one correction, however. CT Russell taught that the last days began in *1799* and Jesus returned in *1874.* Russell taught that Armageddon would occur in 1914. Later, *1914* became both the year of Jesus' invisible return AND the beginning of the Last Days, after all of Russell's predictions had failed. WT did not officially change the alleged events of 1799 and 1874 to 1914 until 1943.
1914 was the end of the gentile times, and thus, the birth of the Kingdom. Bro. Russell did have some wrong views, but 1914 proved to be the beginning of Jesus' presence, and the start of the last days.
@@777Tralfaz777 _"1914 was the end of the gentile times, and thus, the birth of the Kingdom."_ What's your evidence? Prove it. _"but 1914 proved to be the beginning of Jesus' presence"_ Again, what's your proof? CT Russell made the same exact claim about the year *1874,* and you just admitted that he had _"wrong views."_ Other than basing your claims on WT's hopelessly flawed eschatology, make your strongest argument, with evidence, that any of what you just said is true.
@@777Tralfaz777 *"1914...the birth of the Kingdom."* CT Russell taught the birth of the kingdom happened in *1878.* He had "incontrovertible proof" for that claim as well, just as WT claims to have "incontrovertible proof" for their 1914 date. Best of luck to you.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 You said ""1914 was the end of the gentile times, and thus, the birth of the Kingdom." What's your evidence? Prove it." (Matthew 24:3) While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” Jesus' following words gave that sign, and it has been fulfilled since 1914. Also the 7 times prophesy in Daniel directly pointed to 1914 as the end of the gentile times.
@@777Tralfaz777 Nothing you said is evidence. All you're doing is repeating the script WT has given you. Quoting random scriptures, then making wild assertions about them isn't evidence, either. *"the 7 times prophesy in Daniel directly pointed to 1914"* Really? Are you aware that NOT ONE verse in the Bible ever gives a date for anything? Give me your best, most convincing argument, that Daniel's prophecy points to 1914. How do you arrive at 1914 based on the book of Daniel? Go ahead and walk us though it. I bet you've never given this even one second of thought or proven it to yourself, have you? You're just repeating what you've been told by WT, the non-prophet organization.
Refuting 'the organization' is easy enough but replacing its teachings can be difficult because some 'unlearning' is needed. To quickly summarize principal WT errors: 1) Supersessionism (ie. the Church - 'the organization in WT parlance' - inheriting the promises made to natural Jews), 2) Arianism (a fourth century heresy) and 3) partial preterism, namely that Christ has returned and the Kingdom has already been established on Earth. For example wrt to point #1 Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607BC as per WT, that happened roughly 20 years earlier, so the 1914 date for the return doesn't work; however if you apply the 2,250 prophetic years for the return of Israel to the Decree of Cyrus then you land on May 14, 1948, exactly when Israel was reestablished as a State. As for 144,000 these are natural Jews (Messianic converts like Paul most likely) appointed during the Tribulation period about which Revelation is written to evangelize after the 'restrainer' (ie. the true Church made of born again believers is gone), and not a cap on the number going to heaven. Point being, the Bible is true and inspired and if you want to know what is required for Salvation please simply read Romans 10:9,10. God wants a direct relationship with each of us we simply need to ask directly and genuinely repent of our sins. Denominations are all corrupt to varying degrees, thankfully that's not where we need to look for salvation. We simply need faith.
A 100%. Though leaving, going to seminary, becoming an Evangelical Christian I am still... 14 years later, having to purposely unlearn 42 years of indoctrination.
I know they are allowed to read the Holy Christian Bible but they have a little gray book that tells them how the Holy Scriptures should be interpreted. From my experience they are taught not to debate with Christians for they don't want them to question their religion , for the want full control on how they should believe so they can continue to brainwash them.
That is 100% true, they consider themselves to be the only true christians so anything related to other religions (even songs) is seen as apostate and therefore prohibited
As a 14 year old Jw, it’s so sad seeing other people spreading false information about my religion, it’s not true at all. We are allowed to learn about other religions, I’m currently learning about the Islam religion because I have Muslim friends and I like to learn new things, Jehova never said that we can’t read or view any Christian material or othe religious material, some people on the internet are just rude and try to make us (Jw’s) look bad for idk what reason but be careful to what you trust on social media because a lot of it is not true. If you want real information it’s better to talk to a someone who is actually a Jw, not a ex member or someone else cause they might have anger or add lies to make others distance from us.
@@Vm16002 I actually have talked to JWs a lot and even been to several Bible studies, just to see what it was all about. They told me they cannot read other religious material - including Protestant material, and even including other Bibles except for the KJV.
Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing? "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting." Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing? "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost." Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed. What arethe Jehovah's Witness missing? "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation." Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing? "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear." Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing? "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing? "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing? "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses." Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing? "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."@larysnw418
@larysnw418JWs predicted the end of the world. 1914" The Day of Vengeance p.547 "the great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation," will reach its culmination" The Time Is at Hand (1889 ed.) page 77 - page 78 "we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun" The Time Is At Hand (1889 ed.) p.101 "we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99 "October, 1914, will witness the full end of Babylon" Watch Tower 1911 Jun 15 p.190 (reprints p.4842) "Christendom, will have passed away, as already shown in prophecy." Thy Kingdom Come (1891 ed.) p.153
JW doorknockers were such a non-stop nuisance back in the '70s-'90's in his rural town that my uncle always kept a loud barking dog on the porch to keep people from approaching the door.
I just don't answer them if they speak to me on the street. When anyone knocks on my door (whatever missionary, door-to-door sales, or scam artist) I just say what do you want? One missionary said "want to discuss the Bible." My yelled back was no thanks I have enough Bibles. The door person says "want to tell you --" I just interrupted I have all the info I need, go away. The caller(s) left. No more interaction. Some people would say I should engage further discussion. Why? I didn't ask for their visit. I can go to their place of meeting, go their website (or any other) and this intrusion of my privacy and time is not tolerated by me. These door-to-door people are trying to take advantage of lonely, ignorant, defenseless people, and when they got their literature or money or free will, the victim is hard to lead a better life. And my religion is precious to me. And my conversion to the religious views were on MY TIME and FREE WILL. I don't need to bother people. I still get street preachers singling me out. No matter what I say, they are rude and controversial. They are not how the disciples were, because Jesus said if the people have a desire, they will accept the message, or shake the dust off and go to the next town. And I appreciate that.
Were jehovahs witnesses influenced by Mormons? Some doctrines sound EERILY similar to doctrines Mormonism originated decades to nearly a century prior, such as Christ ruling for 1000 years where the limited righteous will assist in his works, the salvation of the ignorant being given another chance during the millennium/after death, and multiple paradises
Nothing to do with the Momons, we just look like them 😆 tangentially related to Seventh Day Adventists, but that was back when they were hard-core anti trinitarian and Annihilationist, they changed over time. And unlike Mormons all our doctrine comes from the Bible, we don't do the "we have another prophet" thing.
As someone whose faith is involved in this comment, please refrain from using the term "Mormon". It is slang and incorrect. President Nelson, in 2018, asked those who are members or who respect the Church to use its true name- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- or else refer to it as "the Restored Church of Christ" or "the Church of Christ".
@@EmilyS-gk3st I’m mormon. It isn’t “slang” it’s the name of the man who abridged the Book of Mormon and a term that Joseph smith himself went along with calling us. It isn’t “continuing revelation” to give us a rebrand. It’s an attempt to get us away from false stereotypes that we don’t believe in Jesus. Stop acting like the name every single church leader for the past 250 years has used to refer to us is a slur, it’s probably the most mind numbing act of blind faith I’ve ever seen
@@zrosix2240 Exactly. Slang is an informal term (that can be slightly offensive). It is offensive to me to be called a term that has nothing to do with Christ, whom I serve. While I respect Mormon, he wasn't the one who redeemed me, nor is he the one I worship. President Nelson himself insists it's not a rebrand, but a correction. I myself feel far more comfortable with the incorrect term LDS than Mormon.
I remember back in 1980 my wife’s grandfather told me that back in 1925 he watched all the Jehovah’s Witnesses in his area as they were gathered on a hill waiting for something big that was supposed to happen. Apparently it didn’t happen.
’1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures …the Christian has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had (so far as the Scriptures reveal) upon which to base his faith in the coming deluge’ - Watchtower April 1, 1923, p. 106
@@eddyvideostarit's in the prophesy that the road to salvation will be very narrow specially for the non believers (as expected). The vast majority of us won't make it when judgement day arrives. However my lifestyle currently don't live up to the values. So if I'm not choosen to partake in the 1000 years of Jesus's reign and beyond then may I return to dust painlessly and enjoy what is left of this current man driven system. Only God's wisdom can truly guide us.
@@DemetrioXavier69 Keep doing your utmost and don't give up, It's not an all-or-nothing religion. Refrain from and obey the things you can, and improve upon difficult things. Satan's children make it tough. For example: A threatening burglar in one's home, would need to be *disabled by striking blows* -- until he is. Trying to hold him down with one hand and calling for the police in the other is impossible -- not necessary -- and is not a sin. You are not going to preach to a drunken sidewalk scooter rider who hit you. You are *not* going to *bend over* for dirty *union* workplace harassers and intimidators -- when the supervisor is also brainwashed into their "gang."
Wha about the part where you have to study extensively in order to be baptized. The story of the Ethiopian Eunoch being baptized on the same day of his new found faith, Phillip performing the ritual would disagree.
What exactly have you found for yourself that was flawed in their teaching based on the bible? Because when I see videos like this makes me wonder that I'm in a different kind of yw organisation...
@@Karolina-jo3om The Bible warns about Jehovah's Witnesses, it warns of false teachers, false prophets, those that add to or go beyond scripture. *JWs claim to follow the Bible and yet* no Bible I know of says anything about 1799,1844,1874,1879, 1914,1915, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1936, 1940's, 1950's, 1960's,1975, 2000,ect. JWs call their literature "food FROM God", repeat "food FROM God" yet it has these false dates. *"Jehovah's Witnesses, ... have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4 *Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* - Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
@@wylolister3218 i agree with those aspects, as those elders had no right to prophesy when the end would come. In our jw org, we give no mind to those people as no one knows exactly when the saviour will come. Jw do follow and live by the bible as best they can, without trying to change it to what it is not.
@@Karolina-jo3om The fact the JW live in fear of complete shunning if the want to celebrate Thanksgiving, birthdays, etc. is so disturbing. Who should care? Extremely cruel.
@@lrajic8281 here in Lithuania the jw are humane. Tho the celebrations of these events that are for human enjoyment are not commendable by God and brother Jesus, and thus viewed as sin, we do not kick anyone out, banish or whatever you call it. They have bible studies among us, the elders are working with them kindly.
@@SThomas-vh9jc Yes, explain yourself, are you kind, with the Word of God. Abraham celebrated Isaac's birthday, and the wise men celebrated Jesus' birthday, WITH GIFTS. God likes celebrations and happy people, and established very many celebrations. He created man in his own image. You will find all celebrations in God's Word, the Bible. I do not accept the new world translation as words have been subtracted and words added. Scriptus Receptius is the Word of God. The scribes, the Pharisees, were the riders of the law, and Jesus tried to impress context into their minds with parables over and over again. It didn't work. Why does jw remind me of them? NB. MY sister and brother are both jw.
The Bible says that the word of God should not be changed: Warnings against adding or taking away The Bible includes several passages that warn against changing the words of God, such as Deuteronomy 4:2 and Revelation 22:18-19. God's message is unchanging The Bible says that God's message has not changed since the beginning of time. God's word is eternal The Bible includes passages that say that God's word is eternal, such as Psalm 119:89, Isaiah 40:8, and Matthew 24:35. “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2.)
I was baptized at 10 and had a friend who was baptized at 7. They definitely baptize children while criticizing Catholics for doing the same. My husband is Catholic and he did his first Communion when he was 9.
It's more a matter of a "believer's baptism" rather than an "infant baptism/alter call baptism." We don't see baptism as the FIRST step, but follow Jesus' example (as his started his ministry for the rest of his life). We would expect people to have ALREADY repented of their sin and submitted themselves to God to qualify for baptism. It's an ordination into the ministry that should come after you've thoroughly studied. So, if you've been studying since birth, baptism as a teenager happens. The comment below about people baptized at 7-10 would be quite abnormal... I wouldn't call the guy a liar or anything, but I've certainly never seen anyone THAT young baptized as a JW. I've done some bible readings and a talk in front of the congregation before the age of 10, sure... but we view baptism as serious as a marriage.
@@morielrorschach8090 "In the summer of 1946, I was baptized at the international convention in Cleveland, Ohio. Although I was only six years of age, I was determined to fulfill my dedication to Jehovah." *Watchtower 1992 Mar 1 p.27* As soon as she learned to read and write, Paola enrolled in the Theocratic Ministry School and became a publisher. Because of her love for Jehovah, she got baptized at the age of seven." *Yearbook 2011 p.58*
@@morielrorschach8090 Why do JWs need to have elders decide if they "qualify" for baptism? Why do they need to answer 100 questions give or take to qualify? Do you have a scripture for this? Why do they need to declare themselves dedicated to God and an Organization? Again, scripture?
@@wylolister3218 I'm sure those aren't the only two cases in history. But it would still be very abnormal. I'm 3rd generation, and starting to pursue preparation for baptism around 11 was still rather early. We believe people should "qualify" for baptism because it's not a decision to make on a whim... It's a commitment to minister for the rest of your life, as serious of a commitment as marriage. So, people should demonstrate that this isn't an impulse, that they actually understand what they're committing to, and that they're committing to serve God for the right reasons (loyalty to HIM, not trying to please their parents or impress some girl or whatnot). Although, you're right, the bible doesn't lay out such strict requirements. In fact, there are examples where apostles come across people and "what's to stop me from being baptized right now?" That's not necessarily an illegitimate baptism. But it's also not necessarily as meaningful of a baptism.
How you know JWs are wrong: they got their god's name wrong! There is no "j" sound in Hebrew. And modern scholars agree that the likeliest correct pronunciation of the tetragrammaton is "Yahweh".
On top of that, the vowels they chose come from Adonai, the word Jews used to AVOID saying God’s name. It’s hilariously false, and yet unfortunately my grandparents and many more around the world believe them.
I will argue on that: It is the English pronunciation of God's name. We do not speak Hebrew therefore we do not use Hebrew pronunciation. Just like we say Jesus, Joshua, Jehu, and also like we call Deutshland Germany and Nippon is Japan. This forcing of people to pronounce as if they are native speakers of a foreign language is a recent invention.
It is worse than that. There are a lot of Spanish speakers who are JW. They change it for Spanish. They even have it both ways on the same building. Jajaja Btw, that is Spanish for hahaha
Can confirm. I was 16. And they don’t just baptize children, they contractually obligate these children to adhere to their tenants whether they truly and absolutely understand what they are getting into or not. Failure to strictly adhere to these tenants may result in expulsion and subsequent shunning by the entire group up to and including your own parents and your own siblings. No, you don’t sign a paper. What you do is you stand up along with everybody who is a candidate for baptism and you answer yes to three questions that amount to a contract stating that you have now agreed to be one of Jehovah’s witnesses and accept everything that goes along with it. Warts and all. When you are in adult in your 20s, or older, I think the import of this sinks in a lot better. When you’re a kid, all you know is you are making your parents happy and what you are doing is dedicating yourself to God. That’s it. All the other stuff just doesn’t cross your mind. I speak from personal experience as someone who was baptized as a teenager. I can’t imagine how little of this is absorbed by a seven-year-old child.
This is very accurate besides one thing. Children can be baptized, but there is a process that everyone must follow in order to be baptized. There are no babies being baptized though, I assure you. Edit: The practice of shunning (disfellowshipping) has been modified. Those whom have been disfellowshipped can be greeted, however it is not encouraged to engage in deeper conversation past formalities.
The 144 thousands people are the people in 12 tribes of Jacob not the Christians now, it was written in the revelation that there are so many Christian from different country with different languages that they cannot be numbered all singing and praising God.
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3...
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Every Church that believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah. According to "Matthew 16:16 Simon Peter answered "You are the Messiah, The Son of the Living God." If your church is founded by that verse then you are one of the churches of God.
@@markhatfield5621 ultimately they spread about their church but not Jesus Christ, the new testament always talks about the salvation of all people that accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. "John 3:16 For God so love the world that HE gave His only begotten Son the whosoever believe in Him will not perish but would have an everlasting life." Whosoever means all people that believe and accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior will be save not because of baptism or church. The best example of this is the prisoner next to Jesus Christ when he died, he believed and accepted that Jesus Christ is the messiah, he don't have the time to be baptist or attend a church but he's saved.
As someone who grew up as a JW and left, this is accurate. However my big question is, why would a loving god allow people to be deceived and then proceed to punish them for being deceived? That seems incredibly narcissistic to me.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe THE LIE . Millions Now Living Will Never Die . You positively will not die . The operation of Satan! . It is what The Apostle Paul was afraid of: . 2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ. . The reason why God allowed this deception to continue is explained in the next verse: . 2 Thessalonians 2:12 12 in order that they all may be judged BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THE TRUTH but took pleasure in unrighteousness. . It was through pointing out to members in my Jehovah's Witness congregation that the Governing Body is the Man of Lawlessness that, I was disfellowshipped. . .
I can’t answer that. As someone who also grew up in it and left, I recognize and admire your courage and your bravery and rejoice in the fact that you are free of them. I hope you have a good relationship with your family. That is often the price that you have to pay for such freedom. And I hope that you have peace.
@@isaiah30v8 yeah, that’ll do it. That was one hell of a way to rock the boat. I can only imagine the shocked look on the faces of the men on your committee.
@@Hun_Uinaq . Consider this extraordinarily unique end time prophecy that has always been in every Christians bible: . Isaiah 66:5 Hear the word of Jehovah, you who tremble at his word: “Your brothers who hate you that are excluding you by reason of my name said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ But He must appear with rejoicing on your part, And they are the ones who will be put to shame.” . [Name of person] is no longer one of JEHOVAH's Witnesses --->> "excluding you by reason MY NAME" . . Jehovah's promise to disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witnesses: . "He ** MUST ** appear with rejoicing on your part" . You are intimately connected to a truly amazing end time prophecy that really is now happening! . It is therefore reasonable for a disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witness to believe that Jesus Christ will appear during their lifetime. . Yes, Jehovah promised that we would rejoice! . Through their shunning policy we will be separated from family: . Mark 10:29-30 Jesus said: “Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news30 who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time-houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions-and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. . What Jesus Christ said would happen, is really happening! . .
God gave us His word so we would not be deceived. Witnesses allow someone to put the NWT into their hands, and have traded the word of God for the ever changing word of Watchtower.
@phaxad 2 posts below gave an address to his conversation with JWs. After I went there and answered his questions, he turned off comments, so, they can no longer be seen. Let the reader use discernment.
This is the post that he did not like. Reference *his* video for the time codes. His video ua-cam.com/video/Z_Yrr_zp-zQ/v-deo.htmlsi=U782pIiBBJSRZOBS 2:50 The Jews and early Christians were monolatrists. As the angels are called "elohim" in the Psalms. Even the judges of Israel are called gods, by God Himself. Jesus is a god in this manner. A god that serves his God and Father, Jehovah. 5:22 Where does the Bible say Jesus was created in God's image? (Colossians 1:15) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; Can you think of someone else who was created in God's image? 6:00 Who was John the Baptist preparing the way for? For the Messiah that Jehovah sent them. Also, the "way of Jehovah" is how the people were to walk. Example: 2 Kings 21:22 So he abandoned Jehovah the God of his forefathers, and he did not walk in *the way of Jehovah.* 7:00 Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, and hence preeminent as well. Just like the firstborn of the Israelites were literally first, and preeminent among the siblings. Jesus is also: (Revelation 3:14) “To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God: Now I am sure you can do another lengthy post to change the meaning of beginning. He is also "only begotten". Strongs 3439 Transliteration: monogenés Definition: only begotten From monos: Definition: alone and genos: Definition: family, offspring genos is from ginomai: Definition: to come into being, to happen, to become Hence, the "only offspring" directly from Jehovah. The "only" "to come into being" from Jehovah. As all other thing came to being *through* Jesus. Col 1:16 ...All other things have been created *through* him and for him. John 1:3 All things came into existence *through* him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. Jesus being the obvious exception. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, *through* whom all things are and we through him. 7:54 1 John 5:20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us insight *so that we may gain the knowledge of the one who is true.* And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. *This is the true God and life everlasting.* _The one Jesus explained to us, who is true, was Jesus Father. That is the true God._
I grew up as a JW. I would agree with all of this but I would clarify the point about God is not everywhere. If God is the power-plant then the Holy Spirit is the power lines. That’s how god reaches everywhere.
As shown in your other video I know you aren't the biggest fan of the organisation, so it's great to see an unbiased, neutral presentation of our doctrine.
@@mattmurdock2868 your statement is easily proven false. They base a ton of their teachings on scripture. It’s just that their interpretation of scripture has some twists that mini find rather odd. If it didn’t have any scriptural basis, they wouldn’t be able to attract believers.
One time the Jehovah Witnesses came to my house and talked to me. but at the same time, the Mormons came to my house. I let both of them in. They did not try to save me, but did argue with each other. I did not join either one.
Sorry but every point I was like, No. Not to what you said but how they can hold to such unorthodox and unhistorical doctrines. They actually believe Jesus is Michael the archangel and believe only in a spiritual Resurrection of Christ, they deny the physical resurrection of Jesus! How can a spirit that has no location resurrect?
I know they have something sort of like Easter, only because I worked at a school they rented the auditorium of for this service. Very well attended. Weird thing was they were willing to pay staff to not enter during their services.
It’s the yearly celebration of the Lord supper. Weird that they paid your staff not to come in. I would’ve thought they would’ve been all about that. They want as many people to attend as possible.
Could you clarify what you mean by "paying staff?" All Jehovah's Witnesses are 100% voluntary. We don't have any paid staff ever. We might rent a convention center or stadium for big conventions, but any of our staff is voluntary. But yeah, we acknowledge Jesus' death and resurrection, of course. But the only religious tradition we find obligatory is observing the memorial of the last supper (the night before his death) due to Luke 22:19. Different people may ALSO observe this in other ways... some may keep this passage in mind ANY time they drink or eat, reminding themselves that AS important as feeding your physical body might be, keeping what God accomplished by sending his Son to die for us is just as vital, and should always be on our minds. But, that's not a "requirement." Likewise, we don't have a problem with biblical holidays (see Leviticus 23). These feasts and fasts had meaning in the Hebrew scriptures already, but also Jesus dying to fulfil passover, then rising on the day of firstfruits, then giving out the holy spirit on pentacost... all leviticus 23 holidays. Then there's the feast of trumpets and day of atonement (which we hope will have a greater fulfillment soon). These are all fine holidays to keep in mind... but we aren't Jews in Israel with a temple and a priesthood, so we're not going to be making animal sacrifices or whatnot.
@@morielrorschach8090 Sure, I was contract staff required by local ordinances at the school. There was also school staff and one other similar contractor that were there. I got there had to do a quick inspection of an area and was met by a church member, who walked me through, showed me the steps they had taken in my area of responsibility and said he was sorry they had to pay for me and asked politely if I and the rest of the staff would stay out of the auditorium while they conducted their service.
@@Booger414 Aha, that makes more sense. We TRY to maintain a reputation for respecting spaces we rent and leaving them cleaner than we find them. Of course, the "stay out of the auditorium" isn't for secrecy or anything. If you wanted to attend in the audience, I'm sure you'd have been welcome... They just didn't want people working as it could be a distraction. They clean up after themselves?
I would ask you to consider these verses: John 5:22 Matthew 16:27 Revelation 22:20 Revelation 22:12-13 Isaiah 44:6 Jude 1:25 Psalms 102:24-27 Hebrews 1:6-12 Isaiah 44:24 Job 9:8
The name Jehovah is actually a mistake. The tetragrammon, or the four consonants for the name of God (YHWH or JHWH) which occurs in the Jewish scriptures is never uttered. Instead, a replacement is spoken, Adoni, which means Lord. Later Hebrew scriptures inserted the vowels for Adoni into the four consonants. Early translators misunderstood this and what probably should have been Yahweh or Jahweh became Jehovah. Note that there isn't any O in Yahweh but there is in Adoni. Also the leading Y could also be a leading J. Net, net, there never was a word Jehovah.
On January 21, 2018, Bible Scholar Nehemia Gordon and his team of researchers discovered the 1,000th Hebrew Bible manuscript containing the original name of God in Hebrew with vowels. For two hundred years, scholars have believed based on Greek sources and conjecture that the Hebrew name of God was originally pronounced “Yahweh.” In late 2016, Gordon found never-translated traditional Jewish sources that explicitly identified the vowels of God’s name in Hebrew as “Yehovah.” This is similar to the English Jehovah, but with a “Y” and the emphasis on the final syllable. - Religion News Service
No, it's Jewish tradittion to replace with Adoni, but the name would be pronounced Jehovah, Jehovah, Yahweh, something like that, if the Jews did say it. "Jehovah" is a decent guess, but since Hebrew has no written vowels, nor the letter J, but does pronounce them, it's hard to be sure.
While Yahweh is probably the closest to how the deity's name was originally pronounced by the Judean worshippers who we now consider the precursors to the Jews, it is possible that there were variations back then. The religious elites who came up with the Tetragrammaton were possibly thinking of a slightly different pronounciation. Alephbet letters actually all have specific trailing vowel or pseudo-vowel sounds built in, and we know that on proto-Hebrew these sounds were fixed into words constructed with the specific letters. So, yod-hay-waw-hay may have been intended to be read as Yodhwawh originally.
@@aivomand7076 Haven't researched this lately but does top Jewish scholars think this Gordon fellow is right. Last I heard, no. Both the JW cult and the Catholic one agree that "jehovah" was first recorded in 1270 by a Catholic monk. NO Jehovah in Hebrew or Aramaic Scrolls. NO Jehovah in Greek Scrolls or codex's. NO Jehovah in Greek Septuagint second century BC. NO Jehovah in Codex Vaticanus 325-350 AD. NO Jehovah in Latin Vulgate 405 AD. NO Jehovah in Wycliffe's Bible 1380-1388 AD.
@TropicalPower I actually have a copy of the Jewish Bible and no it does not appear 6,828 times. In the KJV it appears 7, and fewer in the Orthodox Jewish Bible. The name YHWH is only used with true reverence in Judiasm and by the early Christians, the proper pronunciation is lost to us. That is why, I am correcting your ignorance. I personally avoid the use of YHWH when I can to show proper reverence to the Lord because reverence draws upon my love and faith for Jesus Christ.
I am agnostic but was raised JW and have a continued fascination with religion. Excellent summary, and impressively concise. While I am not religious myself, I still maintain that the JWs have a closely-read legalistic interpretation of the Bible that seems more accurate to what that book says than what most other denominations proclaim.
@@EAdano77 Witnesses neither believe in nor use the Bible. The Bible will not support their beliefs. Bible =Word of God. NWT=ever changing word of Watchtower. It is not a matter of "interpretation," Watchtower has written a "bible" promoting the god they have created for themselves. All of the teachings from Watchtower can be easily debunked with scripture. When the "scholars" at Watchtower tried to "restore God's name," they created a theological disaster! Consequently, none of the teachings from Watchtower can be found in scripture. They have their own doctrines and beliefs, and have created a kingdom for the god they have created to rule over them.
This video was much better than the 142 differences video. JW believe what the Bible says. For instance, trinity was first mentioned. JW do not believe the trinity because it did not come from the Bible, but from men.
The one thing I learned very quickly from conversations with JWs is that they do NOT Witness to you for your sake. They Witness to you for THEIRSELVES in order to gain points from their Elders…
That may be your perception. No JW will tell you that, or believes that. We believe it is a life saving work. Our goal is to be whole hearted toward God, not to be pleasers of men, like "their Elders". Jesus said go and make disciples, and that is our goal.
Also persecuted by the Nazis. About 1,000 died in the concentration camps and 273 were executed for refusing to serve in the military out of a population of ~30,000. Purple triangle was the symbol given.
@@JasonJacksonJames What are the differences between periphery beliefs and core beliefs to you? Does every JW have their own opinion on which periphery is acceptable or not?
Trying to condense the JW’s into two-minutes must have been a major undertaking. I would have never thought this one was possible.
It probably involved some serious head-scratching and hair-pulling
I can condense the JWs into two seconds: "Psychotic evil cult!"
the telltale atheist has a lot of insight from that cult
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I can do it in one second: Bullsh*t!
@@DamonNomad82 There is no academic criteria for a "cult" in the same in the same way there is no criteria for "a true religion. However, JWs simply don't fit the traditional concept of a "cult".
If you ask people for their definition of the term, many will not be able to give you a clear cut answer. Maybe some vague and broad definition at best, which could be applied to an endless series of social constructs.
To me, cults are a collective version of what we call the anti-socials/reprobates. In other words, if cults were an individual, they would be behind bars. Groups such as:
Heavens Gate
The Branch Dravidians
Solar temple
It's not hard to see what these groups are.
I don't see my religion as a cult. My opinion. If someone else says it is one, that's their opinion.
Important Note: Having a medical preference or choosing your associates wisely does NOT make you a cult member.
Ex-JW here. This was factual and unbiased. Thanks for the video!
Definitely factual and unbiased also a ex JW
How did you figure out that JW weren't the truth and escape?
@@sethmoking Escape? You simply write a letter expressing your desire to leave, then...you leave. Seems A LOT of people don't know what a cult actually is. 🤦🏻♂️
@@deathmetalrudiments Except that your family inside the church shuns you if you do! That is a cult.
@@deathmetalrudiments And then your JW family and friends cut all contact with you... like in a cult
I like this style: "the facts and just the facts" given quickly.
Agree
“Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.””
(Matthew 11:28-30 ESVi)
Jesus Christ sent all of you to preach about the Jw's or satan the devil sent all of you to preach about the Jw's??????
May these lost men and women find Christ.
Amen
I was gonna say something less kind, less Christ-like about the JW’s, but read your comment first. Totally agree. 👍
Where is Christ found? And who is it that is looking for him?
@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 Christ is found in the proclamation of the Gospel, those who God draws are seeking.
amen
I heard something from a fairly well known person, she and her young family attended the JW assembly for a number of years. This followed the dissolution of the local gospel church. She didn't pay much attention to the JW theology, HER FAMILY WANTED COMMUNITY. ( they were eventually asked to leave). But to me this a a key insight how some of the fringe groups attract young families that has been forgotten by mainstream denominations. They offer a strong community for the whole family to be part of, not just Sunday services. So i share it for those who have a burden for those lost in certain joyless, punitive groups.
I agree, the sense of community is strong. However, if anyone is thinking in joining just for the community aspect; 2 things to keep in mind: 1) you will be encourage to stop associating and having friendship with anyone who is not a JW (including family members). This makes sense for them as they believe only JWs will survive the armaggedon. 2) If you decide to leave, even if you haven't commit any sin (disfellowshipped) you will be shunned by all JWs, at this point; your entire social circle.
My advice, think twice.
IF THIS FACT CAN BE PROVEN WRONG THEN THE JOB WOULD BE WELL DONE IN ANSWERING THIS QUESTION: HOW CAN JESUS IF HE IS GOD HAVE BROTHERS? THE FATHER CAN HAVE NO BROTHERS/EQUALS!!! BUT JESUS CAN AND DOES
JESUS HAD A PRE-HUMAN EXISTENCE BEFORE - HE BECAME FLESH - MEANING THAT HE WAS 100% HUMAN WHEN ON EARTH - IN THE SAME WAY THAT THOSE WHO GO TO HEAVEN WILL BECOME 100% ANGELIC WHEN THEY GO TO HEAVEN ALTHOUGH HAVING ONCE BEEN 100% HUMAN - LIKEWISE JESUS WAS RAISED BACK TO HIS PRE-EXISTING SPIRIT FORM UPON BEING RESURRECTED RETURNING TO BEING 100% ANGELIC: “Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.” Luke 20:36
THAT IS WHY THOSE WHO WILL GO TO HEAVEN WILL BE JESUS' SPIRIT-BEGOTTEN BROTHERS WHO WILL RULE WITH HIM IN HIS HEAVENLY KINGDOM ALSO AS SONS OF GOD: " Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17
THAT IS WHY AT REVELATION 3:12 JESUS BY DECLARING HIMSELF TO BE “THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR” IS REVEALING HIMSELF TO BE AN ANGELIC SON OF GOD AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE READ IN HEBREWS 2:10,11 “For it was fitting that the one (JEHOVAH GOD) for whom and through whom all things exist, in bringing many sons (JESUS AND HIS BROTHERS) to glory, should make the Chief Agent (JESUS) of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11 For both the one (JEHOVAH GOD) who is sanctifying and those who are being sanctified (JESUS AND HIS BROTHERS) all stem from one (JEHOVAH GOD), and for this reason (JESUS) he is not ashamed to call them brothers,”
"So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, what is spiritual is not first. What is physical is first, and afterward what is spiritual. 47 The first man is from the earth and made of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48 Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust; and like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the one made of dust, we will bear also the image of the heavenly one." 1 Corinthians 15:45-49
A VERY EARLY PROPHECY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WOULD SEND AN ANGEL / STAR TO EARTH TO BECOME A MAN: “I will see him, but not now; I will behold him, but not soon. A star will come out of Jacob, And a scepter will rise out of Israel. And he will certainly break apart the forehead of Moʹab And the skull of all the sons of tumult.” Numbers 24:17
IT'S TIME FOR TRINITARIANS TO STOP LYING TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AND REPENT BECAUSE IT IS BLASPHEMY TO ATTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO GOD BEYOND WHAT HE SAYS BY MEANS OF HIS ANGELIC "WORD" (JESUS) AND IN HIS WRITTEN WORD THE BIBLE
DEAR FATHER I PRAYER IN JESUS NAME THAT SPIRITUAL COMPREHENSION WILL BE GRANTED TO ALL WHO ARE SEEKING THE TRUTH AS JESUS PRAYED FOR ALL HUMANS SAYING: “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”
MAY HONEST-HEARTED ONES FIND THE TRUTH AND ACCEPT IT IN JESUS NAME - AMEN
They offer community until you voluntarily leave or ask questions.. Then you are shunned.
@@majafleur9646 SADLY SATAN HAS THIS SYSTEM OF HIS SO SATURATED WITH HIS LIE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY DON'T KNOW HOW TO RECOGNIZE WHAT THE TRUTH IS AND AND IF THEY HAVE FOUND IT - HOW TO STAND FAST IN IT “Where anyone hears the word of the Kingdom but does not get the sense of it, the wicked one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart; this is the one sown alongside the road. 20 As for the one sown on rocky ground, this is the one hearing the word and at once accepting it with joy. 21 Yet, he has no root in himself but continues for a time, and after tribulation or persecution has arisen on account of the word, he is at once stumbled. 22 As for the one sown among the thorns, this is the one hearing the word, but the anxiety of this system of things and the deceptive power of riches choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful. 23 As for the one sown upon the fine soil, this is the one hearing the word and getting the sense of it, who really does bear fruit and produces, this one 100 times more, that one 60, the other 30.” Matthew 13:19-23
“the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive, because it neither sees it nor knows it…” John 14:17
”So down the great dragon+ was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him." Revelation 12:9,10;
“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.” Matthew 7:13,14;
“Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able” Luke 13:24
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’” Matthew 7:21-23
Very true. Also true is the JW missionaries are HIGHLY trained with answers to common objections so if one chooses to engage with them in a dialogue, be prepared to defend your position. Their views as easy to show are anti biblical but they are masters of dialogue so some study of their theological points of views are highly encouraged.
One point you could easily get them on is when you open the door, and they offer you a watchtower tract, offer them some literature as well...they will likely reject it and say they have already read it or know it...then respond with well then why should I accept your literature.
The vast history of failed prophecies is enough for most people to see this is not a truth bearing organization.
Ask them about Beth Sarim, the house Hayes built for Elijah, who he prophesied would return before 1950.
Yes. Offering them your literature will work absolutely to perfection. They are forbidden from reading it. Offering to pray with them right there and then and hold hands will cause them to feel awkward. Inviting them to your church will also do it. They are there to convince you why they think they have the truth and why your religion is false and to try to convince you to go and join them. They are not there to exchange ideas freely with somebody and mutually respect one another’s views.
@@rumrunner8019 that really won’t work. Most of them don’t know about it. Especially the young ones. It’s not really spoken about. You have to dig in the literature to find it. And, besides, they will just tell you that the doctrine has changed since then because new light has come to them since then showing them the error of that teaching. The religion is set up perfectly for doctrinal changes because they see themselves as emerging from false teaching and having to constantly cleanse themselves and elements of false religion. This allows them to always undergo changes and to reject any prior teaching as something that is a remnant of false religion they have since shed.
They aren't very smart.
As for failed prophecy, The Bible and Christianity is full of them, so JW is just as laughable as any other denomination.
I once invited a couple of older ladies into my home. I then spent the next hour trying to convince them to watch a video of mine that discusses different Bible versions. They wouldn't do it. I finally gave up on them and said goodbye. Now that I know they aren't interested in any sort of give and take or discussion, I won't give them any more of my time.
Finally, and unbiased depiction of what the JW tenants actually are. Thank you!
To Arhabersham: Where do the "tenants" reside?
Tenet, as in _SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS._ Doctrine or beliefs.
you mean tenets
Where do the JW tenants live? I would like to know if rent there is cheap or not
They are retarded…. Glad I could help, you are welcome
Thank you for doing this in under 2 minutes. I honestly probably wouldn't have watched it otherwise
I haven't been part of a church for many years, but I love your videos. Very informative!
Please get out of that church they are a cult they are indocterating
Here‘s a good advice：don‘t
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 Don't WHAT? Just FYI...I gave up religion over 60 years ago as my lifetime interest in astronomy grew, the staggering enormity of the two trillion galaxy universe we all reside within, our total insignificance within it .....and, have been an atheist for going on 65 years now.
@@blackholeentry3489 Don't do religion. Not even once. What did you think I was gonna say?
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588
"Praise the Lard?"
I once went on a first date with a guy who said for us to date I’d have to convert to JW. I said thanks but no thanks and never saw him again. My gramma visibly went pale when I told her how my date went lol. I was no religion at the time. I met a nice boy and got married and am now a Bible believing Christian who believes in salvation through faith in the grace of God & Jesus Christ’s shed blood on the cross.
That's how I lost my best friend so many years ago. She met a boy who told her the same. Unfortunately, she became one, brought another friend with her.
They tried to get me; didn't work. They went to the Kingdom Hall, I went to church and believe that you are saved by His grace, not by works.
I tried to point them in the right direction by pointing out major red flags. I was called an apostate and shunning began forthwith.
I do believe they are still in. Hope they find the truth before it's too late. Glad you said "no."
Dear Sonny Stephens 3753, You've engaged in much believing but will need to put forth the effort *doing* God's *work:* to study, teach, and preach. How is that going for you? To whom do you teach? Who are you saving?
@@eddyvideostar great point you’re right. My husband (and I) minster to a group of around 2500 🙏🏼😊 and our little ones of course. My husband is considering starting his own UA-cam ministry which I encourage fully. He will be the one on the videos but I’ll help him every way I can. ❤️
@@sonnystephens3753 I appreciate your response. What denomination does he minister to the 2500 people? It sounds like he is going back to the churchy, pastor-type thing.
@@eddyvideostar mid acts dispensationalism. Right division of the Bible. Do you know about it?
Admittedly most of the ministry we’ve done so far centers around helping people assert their religious freedom in the face of medical mandates. It’s something I feel very strongly about. In 2021 I saw many people loosing their jobs putting themselves and their families at risk and I prayed to God to be able to help them in some way. Through the grace of God these 2500+ people have crossed our path since 2021 taking with them the knowledge that God is the final authority and they also took the information they needed to assert their right to religious exemption from any medical procedures they’re morally and spiritually opposed to.
My husband’s UA-cam ministry will be focused on helping people rightly divide the Bible with a strong emphasis on the books of the Apostle Paul (the apostle to the gentiles) & living in the dispensation of Grave as a part of the body of Christ. 😊🙏🏼
Before my bother killed himself he said “ it’s too late to get reinstated. The ends coming and I can’t get my life together before paradise “. That church killed. My brother
The testimony of countless victims of this appalling cult stand as a witness against this organisation.
Families torn asunder. Friendships destroyed. Marriages ruined. Documented child abuse. The trail of destruction left by the watchtower organisation reveals a darkness deep within.
Matt 10:34 Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me.
You were saying? The truth of God's word will cause divisions, and many will prefer the world ruled by Satan of worship of God.
@David19746Why does that matter?
The two people commented are JW trolls.
Many other cults too around
Almost a sure sign of a cult...rejection of reading contradicting literature. Basically check your brain at the door and believe only what we say...quite different than Paul's commendation of the Berean believers.
There is no academic criteria for a "cult" in the same in the same way there is no criteria for "a true religion. However, JWs simply don't fit the traditional concept of a "cult".
If you ask people for their definition of the term, many will not be able to give you a clear cut answer. Maybe some vague and broad definition at best, which could be applied to an endless series of social constructs.
To me, cults are a collective version of what we call the anti-socials/reprobates. In other words, if cults were an individual, they would be behind bars. Groups such as:
Heavens Gate
The Branch Dravidians
Solar temple
It's not hard to see what these groups are.
I don't see my religion as a cult. My opinion. If someone else says it is one, that's their opinion.
Important Note: Having a medical preference or choosing your associates wisely does NOT make you a cult member.
They engage with people with contradicting beliefs in the ministry so don't worry, there is exposture to alternate view points.
Do not many Evangelicals do the same thing? Sure, take your Bible with you, but after you walk through the door they are going to tell you exactly how to think. And when they start raising their voices when explaining certain passages, that *might* be a _red flag_ Just something to think about.
True, not getting blood transfusions is no a cultish sign, but rejecting even reading opposing literature and the emphasis on distancing yourself from family if they don't belong to the org is.
Now one could say those are Christian tenants too?
Not so. Paul commends the bereans for checking on his teaching's against an authoritative source. And while Jesus does speak of leaving father and mother for Him in context, it means to put Jesus as #1, not to cut off ties with family if they remain non Christian.@@foodforlaughs2015
I am a witness for Jehovah, but I am not a Jehovah's Witness
Lost soul.
Who told you to witness for false god "Jehovah."
We are to be witnesses for Christ.
@@mattmurdock2868 He's saying that he is a Christian. Jehovah is just a name of God derived from the tetragrammaton, using it does not automatically make you a JW.
@@bernardoohigginsvevo2974
Those who use "Jehovah" and think that represents YHWH, the Godhead do not understand the God found in scripture.
@@mattmurdock2868 elaborate please. this term is found to be from a spanish monk in the 12th century who translatet the tetragrammaton in Iehova (latin). And it is popular among maaany christians. Think of this american hymn "days of Elijah" for example.
Great vid as always! Could you do a 2 minute explained video on the Moravians?
I second this! He has does a longer video, but these short videos are great for sharing.
…or Transnistria
Well done. Of necessity, due to time constraints and everything, it is 1000 miles wide and a centimeter deep but, you hit everything that was important.
…1609 kilometers / .394 inch
IF THIS FACT CAN BE PROVEN WRONG THEN THE JOB WOULD BE WELL DONE IN ANSWERING THIS QUESTION: HOW CAN JESUS IF HE IS GOD HAVE BROTHERS? THE FATHER CAN HAVE NO BROTHERS/EQUALS!!! BUT JESUS CAN AND DOES
JESUS HAD A PRE-HUMAN EXISTENCE BEFORE - HE BECAME FLESH - MEANING THAT HE WAS 100% HUMAN WHEN ON EARTH - IN THE SAME WAY THAT THOSE WHO GO TO HEAVEN WILL BECOME 100% ANGELIC WHEN THEY GO TO HEAVEN ALTHOUGH HAVING ONCE BEEN 100% HUMAN - LIKEWISE JESUS WAS RAISED BACK TO HIS PRE-EXISTING SPIRIT FORM UPON BEING RESURRECTED RETURNING TO BEING 100% ANGELIC: “Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.” Luke 20:36
THAT IS WHY THOSE WHO WILL GO TO HEAVEN WILL BE JESUS' SPIRIT-BEGOTTEN BROTHERS WHO WILL RULE WITH HIM IN HIS HEAVENLY KINGDOM ALSO AS SONS OF GOD: " Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17
THAT IS WHY AT REVELATION 3:12 JESUS BY DECLARING HIMSELF TO BE “THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR” IS REVEALING HIMSELF TO BE AN ANGELIC SON OF GOD AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE READ IN HEBREWS 2:10,11 “For it was fitting that the one (JEHOVAH GOD) for whom and through whom all things exist, in bringing many sons (JESUS AND HIS BROTHERS) to glory, should make the Chief Agent (JESUS) of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11 For both the one (JEHOVAH GOD) who is sanctifying and those who are being sanctified (JESUS AND HIS BROTHERS) all stem from one (JEHOVAH GOD), and for this reason (JESUS) he is not ashamed to call them brothers,”
"So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, what is spiritual is not first. What is physical is first, and afterward what is spiritual. 47 The first man is from the earth and made of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48 Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust; and like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the one made of dust, we will bear also the image of the heavenly one." 1 Corinthians 15:45-49
The only change i would've made as an ex-jw is the part about adult baptism. While Jehovah's Witnesses will publicly declare that they do not baptize children, there are multiple examples even in their own literature of children as young as 7 or 8 being baptized.
In very rare cases
@@Vm16002 no it’s just a thing. Plus it shouldn’t be happening at all
And such young ones are shunned, thrown out into the street once they make a mistake and are disciplined by the congregation.
From one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I appreciate that you can present a view that contradicts your own without getting derogatory. Thank you. However, I'd want to add a bit of comment:
1- I appreciate the opening, that Russell was just a guy with a publishing company. He was NOT a saint or prophet or anything of the sort. He just started a movement to question popular opinion and tradition and get back to what Christ actually taught in the bible.
2- I wouldn't really say "The Watchtower sets the doctrine of the group." The Watchtower magazine is a study guide. Things explicitly in the bible are doctrine. It's fair that two very important concepts where we differ from popular churches is that we are not trinitarian and believe that salvation is a resurrection to eternal life, and the lack of salvation is simply the lack of life: death. Not dying and spending eternity in heaven/hell. The book of Daniel (particularly chapter 4) is doctrinally important, but the idea that it points to 1914 (and what it means to point to 1914) is a human attempt to explain what Daniel 4 could mean. Daniel 4 is doctrine, our attempt to understand it is fallible speculation.
3- Same with the "Doctrines are established by it's governing body" statement. Their role is to organize the congregation and approve study material, not to set doctrine. They have responsibility, not authority. We're expected to give prayerful consideration to the studies offered, but they've said repeatedly over the last century that they are NOT infallible, and expect readers to first and foremost be loyal to God above all men, including them. They're not above the congregation, they only have a role of leadership WITHIN the congregation.
4- One amendment to the cross part: We note that the word used is "Stauros." This torture stake could be of any number of shapes, including but not limited to crosses. It COULD have been a simple upright stake. Or tree. Or a fixed Cross, sure. Or an X or a Y or a living tree or anything else. The point is the scripture doesn't specify a shape and we should not fixate on the shape itself, but the meaning of him giving up his life. Personally, what seems to fit the text as written and makes the most logical sense to me is that Jesus did NOT walk up carrying a whole cross OR stake, but was already strapped to a Roman patibulum (a removable crossbeam he'd already be strapped to when lead up to a simple permanent stake).
5- Not sure where you get the "God (The Father) has a spirit body and is not present everywhere" statement?
6- The 144,000 are simply the ones described in Revelation chapters 7 and 14. The little flock purchased from the earth to be kingdom priests, as opposed to "the great crowd which no one is able to number." Whatever their role is, or the duration of their role is up for speculation as it's only briefly mentioned in a couple parts in Revelation. But yes, we believe in the resurrection.
7- The "For salvation works are necessary" point also fundamentally misses the point. Salvation is a free gift. But, people who claim to submit to God should ACTUALLY submit to God. The full book of Romans clarifies the intricacies of this in very good detail, particularly chapters 5/6.
Next few points are pretty fair, although "shunning people who leave" is a bit of a misrepresentation. Only if you were an ordained minister of the church AND you "not only leave," but either live in unrepentant sin or join a contradictory religion, THEN you would be acknowledged as "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" and then congregational ties are severed unless you choose to return. This doesn't mean family ties, it's not grounds for divorce, parents are still responsible to care for their dependents, people should still be courteous, and disfellowshipped people should never be insulted or harassed or badmouthed behind their backs or anything like that. They're just not congregational brothers or sisters, and if they choose to continue coming to meetings, they won't be called on during the study review.
8- "Not allowed to read anti-watchtower literature" is also fair, but sometimes misrepresented. Yes, we read outside literature. We also read literature that disagrees with us. We're advised not to waste our time with literature that's blatantly biased and extremely polemic. If it's intentionally hostile literature intended to tear people down... we consider it best to just avoid it. Respectful disagreements in the realm of 1 Peter 3:15 is FINE. We WANT people to ask questions and look into the bible, even if it's to disprove us. We DON'T want to just "convert people to our dogma." We want people to get closer to God and study the truth. Everyone's imperfect, and to whatever extent we're wrong, we would RATHER you believe "the truth" than "our opinion." Because we've critically analyzed all available interpretations of scripture for so long, we're rather confident that we're the closest to what Jesus taught available today. If there were a group more accurately following Jesus, a faithful Jehovah's Witness would be obligated to go to that group and follow Jesus the best they can.
Thanks for your detailed comment. I will address 4 and 5 above. For #4, I think watchtower literature is explicitly against the "cross" shape. For example:
Watchtower March 15, 1957, “Did Christ Die on a Cross?”, wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1957201 "Clearly there is no Scriptural support for the traditional cross as a symbol of Christianity. Then how can its adoption by professed Christians be accounted for? It was borrowed from the surrounding pagans. It is another one of the many paganisms that the early apostate Christians adopted so as to appeal to the pagans and to be more like them. … Thus we see the Scriptures, the facts of history and reason uniting to testify that Christ did not die on a cross but upon an upright pole or stake, a stauros, xylon, crux. Also, that regardless of its form, it is to be abhorred rather than venerated. In keeping with these facts the New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures renders stauros as “torture stake” and xylon as “stake,” when it refers to the instrument on which Christ died. "
For #5 Watchtower February 15, 1981, “How Real is God to You?”, wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1981122
Actually, by teaching that God is omnipresent Christendom has confused matters and made it more difficult for God to be real to his worshipers. How could God be present everywhere at the same time? God is a spirit Person, which means that he does not have a material body, but a spiritual one. A spirit has a body? Yes, for we read, “If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one.” (1 Cor. 15:44; John 4:24) God being an individual, a Person with a spirit body, has a place where he resides, and so he could not be at any other place at the same time.
Thank you for an excellent response. Many of these are similar to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
@@ReadyToHarvest I appreciate your prompt response, and thought I'd already gotten back to you but it doesn't look like I hit send! (>
Thank you my Brother you gave them a good answer. 👍😊
May our One True God Jehovah Bless You🙏
Thanks for the commet!
So much heresy in just 2 minutes! I hope everyone who is trapped in this finds their way to true faith.
Where is the truth found?
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The Truth is Christ Jesus (John 14:6). He is the Eternal Word of God, begotten of the very nature of the Father, who in time became incarnate for us and our salvation, dying for us and bearing our sin and death in His own person. He arose triumphant over these, raising up the temple of humanity He had assumed, and now He sits at His Father’s right hand until all of His foes are made a footstool for His feet.
@@justanotherbaptistjew5659 ,....That does not answer my question. There are millions of people that claim to have this truth, but where are they? Are they in the church? If so, what church? What denomination? What is it called? Where are the believers with the real truth found?
@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 there many sects and independents groups they call themselves Christ Church. Christ says very clear one baptism, one Church one faith not thousands, in the apostles time they were churches, other mistake The Church is us the Christians as a whole the so call church is the building where the church members are meet to worship God and the doctrine. In the apostles era the were autonomous congregations in different cities like Macedonia , Ephesus, Rome, Calcedonia but all of them were in Union each other and keep in touch by letters and the apostles visited it. Now thousands declare they own the true and they do not attach to a council because they do not had any responsibility to others.😢😢😱😱😡😡
@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 catholique or maybe orthodoxe
The Jehovah witnesses leaders called the governing body demands unquestionable obedience and complete trust from their members. Here is a quote from their publication ”All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."Watchtower 2013 Nov 15 p.20.
The governing body just got two new members. Bringing them 8 to 10 members.
Eh, it's easy to take things out of context. The governing body doesn't claim infallability like the Pope, for instance. Nearly ever denomination, except those free churches/non denominational ones maybe, would agree that following instructions from a central administration is a good idea. That's kinda the point of a religious organisation.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Honestly, i dont know what context that can be taken out of. It seems pretty straightforward. The Infallibility of the pope is far more limited then what was being claimed in the watchtower. Lol
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts what do you understand about this quotes from the Jehovah witnesses publications: "However, the Governing Body are appointed through the holy spirit under the direction of Jehovah God and Jesus Christ." Watchtower 1990 Mar 15 p.18
"To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization ( Jehovah witnesses) and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12
…to leave Jehovah's organization ( Jehovah witnesses)... we would lose not only the privilege of doing God's will but also the hope of life in God's new world." Watchtower 2016 Jun study ed p.26
@HEisTheWay, From a JW: No.
Articles are written by fallible people. They SHOULD be respected and given prayerful consideration. We do not give "unquestionable obedience" to any human. Period. None.
However, the world has always had some "weird times," where we're expected to take care of ourselves and trust local secular authorities. However, the book of Revelation DOES describe a Great tribulation where secular authorities will be quite ineffective... if REALLY weird stuff happens, we should be prepared to look for advice from the congregation. OF course, the congregation is still human, and any advice they give is just advice to be given prayerful consideration while trusting in God... not "unquestionable obedience" to people.
Exactly the quick explanation I was looking for - thank you!
Agreed, had to see what they believe real quick, an old friend converted I guess into Jehovah’s Witness and their spouse is diagnosed with cancer so they are posting a bunch about it, he’s getting blood transfusion because of his sickness but it said that’s forbidden in this video so weird.
Thank you for doing what the title actually says!
I thought this channel was for Christian denominations? That said, the video was very informational and good, thanks for making it, I see why you did.
It's about any group that calls themselves Christian, whether they actually are or not.
He has clarified this. It's about any sect/group that claims Christianity. It's for educational purposes.
@@JDsVarietyChannel Yes, my comment was somewhat sarcastic.
Since what qualifies a Christian is widely debated and highly controversial, I think it’s fair to do a video on it.
You don't even need to take an aggressive approach to show how heretical JW's beliefs are. Just stating them is enough to make the point.
Good heavens! If even the Jehovah's Witnesses have had schisms is there any denomination that doesn't have disagreements and then split?
I live in the neighborhood where it all started in the Northside of Pittsburgh. Theres a plaquer down the street marking the place where Russell and the bible students would meet.
Actually it all started with Satan.. evil always begins there
A VERY EARLY PROPHECY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WOULD SEND AN ANGEL / STAR TO EARTH TO BECOME A MAN: “I will see him, but not now; I will behold him, but not soon. A star will come out of Jacob, And a scepter will rise out of Israel. And he will certainly break apart the forehead of Moʹab And the skull of all the sons of tumult.” Numbers 24:17
IT'S TIME FOR TRINITARIANS TO STOP LYING TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AND REPENT BECAUSE IT IS BLASPHEMY TO ATTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO GOD BEYOND WHAT HE SAYS BY MEANS OF HIS ANGELIC "WORD" (JESUS) AND IN HIS WRITTEN WORD THE BIBLE
DEAR FATHER I PRAYER IN JESUS NAME THAT SPIRITUAL COMPREHENSION WILL BE GRANTED TO ALL WHO ARE SEEKING THE TRUTH AS JESUS PRAYED FOR ALL HUMANS SAYING: “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”
MAY HONEST-HEARTED ONES FIND THE TRUTH AND ACCEPT IT IN JESUS NAME - AMEN
They are literally forbidden from reading anything that opposes or criticizes the Society? That is terrifying. That alone sets off so many alarm bells.
I can’t imagine what it must be like to be trapped in something like that, or be disowned by your family for trying to think objectively and search for truth. Poor souls.
Absolutely. Also any negative news about the cult they are told not to look.
You said "They are literally forbidden from reading anything that opposes or criticizes the Society?"
If it comes from known apostates, yes. You can probably show me nothing about JW that I have not seen before, whether true or false.
Much of it is like this: Matt 11:18 Likewise, John came neither eating nor drinking, but people say, ‘He has a demon.’ 19 The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.”
@@777Tralfaz777 I’m not sure I understand the connection you are making with that passage. What I meant by my criticism was that any organization that binds the consciences of its members to never be exposed to any opposing views is suspicious. If they really had confidence that what they believe and teach is true, why would they absolutely prohibit this?
How are you ever supposed to evaluate the truthfulness of your belief if you are never allowed to even be exposed to any opposing claims?
I’m not denying the role of faith. But any organization can trap anybody into believing absolutely anything they want that way, because you wouldn’t be exposed to anything other than what they tell you. This is how the communist regimes of the early 20th century operated (and how North Korea still operates!).
Finally, I feel that the society is really doing its members a disservice, especially in this age of the internet where so much information is available to anybody at all who wants to look for it. Wouldn’t it be better for the society to engage with the arguments against them to prepare their believers to be able to provide an answer for their faith?
@@777Tralfaz777 The governing body has told jws not look at negative Media reports about the cult. That's not an apostate source.
Also if the apostate is correct, then it's not apostate. JWs are simply wrong. Like the 587/607 thing that you'll soon see I'm right.
JWs are what is warned about at Luke 21:8. They are a doomsday cult. Plain and simple. How many times have they talked about the end and Armageddon. ITS ALL THEY DO.
Jesus instructions, simple. Do not go after them.
Following that could have saved thousands, no, 10s of thousands of lives.
You mocked me when I said JW doctrine killed more JWs than Hitler. That's 100% true. Hitler kills 1200 JWs. Jws have at times, banned: vaccines, organ transplants, blood fractions. Currently blood 4 main components is the only deadly teaching left. The blood ban probably killed more than 1200 in the last 5 years. Easily. So why laugh, these are your bros and sisters DYING. Why do I care more?
Deadly cult man. I'm telling you, you gotta wake up. I was like you once. I came to forums and UA-cam to dismantle apostates. Then I realized exjws are correct. This is a dangerous cult.
Truth doesn't change. Old light, is being gas lighted into believing w new truth. It's all wrong.
@@Hopmeister96 You said "I’m not sure I understand the connection you are making with that passage."
It fits many of the critiques people levy.
We are exposed to opposing views all the time. We just do not drink them in.
You said "why would they absolutely prohibit this?"
An overstatement to be sure. They give reasons for caution. But this "forbidding" and "prohibit" language is extreme and false.
You said "How are you ever supposed to evaluate the truthfulness of your belief if you are never allowed to even be exposed to any opposing claims?"
I have investigated.
You said "especially in this age of the internet where so much information is available to anybody at all who wants to look for it"
??? And you think this is only positive? Is Satan misleading the entire inhabited Earth?
Your channel is Important God bless you
Here's the most succinct differentiation between Jehovah's Witnesses and mainstream Christianity:
Jehovah's Witnesses believe the Father alone is God (John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, and the entire Hebrew bible). And that it's important to know that he has a personal name (Exodus 3:15 and Jeremiah 16:21). (Although we're not picky about different dialects pronouncing it differently)
We believe Jesus is the only-begotten son of God, our messiah, lord, king, and high priest to his God and ours. We believe Jesus actually emptied himself to be born on earth (not leaving a divine nature in heaven), and actually died (not leaving parts alive), and was actually resurrected.
We believe the wages of sin is death (not hell), and the gift God offers is eternal life through an actual resurrection (Romans 6:23) as opposed to everyone dying and being separated into pleasant or torturous deaths. Further the promise in Revelation 21:3-4 that there will be no more mourning or crying or pain is directly incompatible with the concept of ongoing torment in a hell.
And that it's everyone's job to study the bible and conform themselves to what IT teaches, regardless of how popular or unpopular any human tradition is.
If Jehovah's Witnesses conform to the teachings of the Bible, why is the NWT not in agreement with the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts?
Why do they use titles like Governing Board, publishers, and Pioneers which come from Corporations? They are not from the Bible.
Also, they hate JESUS.
When he said not to believe anyone who said he returned invisibly, the Governing Board says that he lied and did return in 1914.
JESUS said that his kingdom will have no end and that the gates of Hell can not prevail against it, but your Governing Board says that the church was destroyed and JESUS chose the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society to be his new church which makes JESUS a liar.
"My Lord and my God." St Thomas to Jesus. Paul in philippians 2 said that Jesus shared the nature of God. John 1:1 "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God." Jesus to the people, "before Abraham was, I am."
Arianism has already been wiped out. Why did you guys bring it back?
As to hell, Mathew 8 v "12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” sounds like a literal hell, doesn't it?
@@Episcopalianacolytewhat's the scripture on the invisible return?
@@Episcopalianacolyte I meant where he says that if they he returned invisibly, to not believe them. My bad
@@Episcopalianacolyte thank you!
There are a couple of very important bullet points that you forgot:
- Shunning means it is forbidden for any Jehova's Witness to have any contact with you which means you will lose all family and friends.
- If you are sexually abused by a Jehovah's Witness you may not report it to the police or you will be shunned.
- If your parents report sexual abuse to the police they too will be shunned.
- If you are the abuser just deny it and the church elders will protect you.
- If you require a blood transfusion to survive a medical crisis you must choose death instead - or you will be shunned.
- If you think these rules mean that our elders are ignoble and wicked then you are most certainly right.
@larysnw418 I am a lifelong atheist who deplores the harm done in the name of fictitious gods. Your denials about the sheltering of sexual abusers are nothing if not wickedness. Your defense of shunning because it's in the bible is equally deplorable and inhumane. Perhaps you have not actually read the bible and are unaware that it is replete with atrocities.
We now live in a world of instant global communications and everybody has a video camera in their pocket. The corrupt control of the old men is being exposed as I speak. Here in Canada, we just had a CBC documentary with a full hour of evidence about the ongoing abuses.
So welcome to the 21st century - it will not go well for religious cults. I'm sure you are already worried that the Witnesses only retain one third of the people who were raised in the church (Pew Research). That alone speaks volumes.
@@tarp-grommetRipcord is a JW troll.
@larysnw418Shunning is not biblical. None of those passages support your claim.
@larysnw418 "Nothing is being "exposed" in Canada and attempts(unsuccessful) to discredit JWs are nothing new."
Your cult is already discredited by the ARC. And, are you enjoying Norway? Also, they have been successful (Look at Spain).
"I too deplore the harm done by ped0philes."
No, you don't. You shelter them. Look up the ARC?
"JWs represent true Christianity."
JWs don't represent true Christianity, you need to provide evidence for this claim.
"So your statement from Pew research is irrelevant and meaningless."
How is it irrelevant and meaningless?
@larysnw418 "If the parents report it to the police they will not be shunned."
That is a lie, Larry. If the parents report it to the police they will be shunned.
"The elders will not protect a child abuser.."
The elders will protect a child abuser.
"Taking a blood transfusion doesn't mean they will be shunned."
Why are you lying?
"I suspect that you're disfellowshipped which would explain your post."
How would you know that?
Loved It….straight to the point!
Keep up the Great Work!!!
All of Gods Blessings over you Brother!
The only things that bothers me of them is that only 144k will be saved. Why would say so if Jesus died for our sins?
If I understand correctly, a JW would say that only 144,000 "anointed" will _go to Heaven_ to rule with Jesus as some sort of priest-kings. However, John 10:16 mentions "other sheep" which are "not of this fold" (presumably the anointed), "and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd". When (in the video, 1:15) Jesus returns to reign over the Earth, He and the anointed will lead and purify this "other flock" consisting of all the dead who were righteous (but not righteous enough to make the 144,000 list), as well as all the dead who died "unrighteous" but who didn't warrant total anihilation, who will be getting a second chance to hear and obey (again, see the video) and thus join the ranks of the "other flock". Those righteous people who are _alive_ at the time of the Second Coming (and who aren't already part of the anointed) are considered part of the "great crowd" mentioned in the Book of Revelations, but are otherwise in the same boat as the "other flock".
When the Millennium ends, Jesus and the anointed will return to Heaven to spend eternity with God, while the much, much larger "other flock" and "great crowd", purified inside and out, will live eternally in a peaceful utopia _on Earth,_ which by then will have been cleaned and restored into an equivalent to the Garden of Eden.
As far as _salvation,_ rather than eschatology, JWs seem to subscribe to the "Ransom Theory", i.e. our sins doomed us to die and be eternally separated from God, but Jesus' death freed us and opened the way to Heaven, which would otherwise be entirely inaccessible.
Again, this is all just assuming I'm understanding correctly. My understanding of it all is probably little better than yours; I'm just good at finding and summarizing information.
Ultimately, I guess it depends on your definition of "saved". Most Christian denominations consider the righteous to be "saved" when they're assured that they'll be spending eternity _in Heaven,_ thus the JW "anointed" would be "saved" and the "other flock" would be in a weird not-quite-saved, not-quite-damned state. The JWs, if I'm not mistaken, would argue that the anointed and the other flock are _both_ "saved", living without sin for all eternity in wonderful lands of perfect peace and joy, it's just that their roles and their ultimate destinations are different.
@@Anastas1786 thank you for the amazing reply
@@Anastas1786 which ironically if you read the passage is only 144000 Jewish virgin men besides an innumerable group of peoples from all nations
Is that really the *only* thing that bothers you from that list?
144,000 will go to heaven and rule as kings . The rest will live in earthly paradise without the conditions we see today. Live forever with our dying.
I have found JW’s to be some of the most joyless people I’ve ever met. Absolutely joyless. Jesus gives me joy all the time.
Yes, they have no joy, because they serve false god "Jehovah" created by Watchtower.
@@mattmurdock2868 Look up Psalm 83:18 in different Bible translations the God Jehovah is not made up by the Watchtower a simple google search will show you all the Bible’s that use the name starting from William Tyndale’s translation to the King James to the Masoretic Hebrew text that shows you how the YHWH vowels were written to get Jehovah translated in English which many Bible’s replace with Lord and there is dispute whether that is the correct pronunciation but anyone that claims the Watchtower made it up has no idea what they are talking about
@@Johnnywalkerbravo
Yes, I understand about the name Jehovah...the god of Watchtower is not the God found in scripture.
Moreover, none of the teachings from Watchtower can be found in scripture.
The God found in scripture is a Godhead. The name of the Godhead is YHWH.
Father.
Son.
Holy Ghost.
These are YHWH, the Godhead.
The Watchtower teaches this flawed theology...
YHWH =LORD =
Father =Jehovah.
Of course nothing like that can be found in scripture.
Bible =Word of God.
NWT=ever changing word of Watchtower.
I’m being forced to be a JW because of my parents (I love them but damn do I hate this religion) and I can confirm I am often told I look or am joyless
Being a JW is a great joy. Why would I be joyful to believe in a three headed God that burns people in eternal fire?
You mentioned church of the Nazarene so I followed the link you provided, but there’s no reference there to a JW connection. Please would you elaborate on any connection either historically or as regards beliefs. You’ve got me confused. Thanks.
they are not connected to JWs other than that they formed around the same time.
@@ReadyToHarvest Thanks for that. I was worried that I had approved them wrongly in the past.
Keep up the good work. We need to be vigilant in discerning truth from error.
I know this is an older video, so I’m hoping somebody will respond to me. So my old friend who, I won’t give too much detail about his life, I’ll just say every time I hung out with him he was doing hard drugs, not weed, like coke and meth and obviously alcohol. Anyways after not seeing him for over a year, he’s telling me he’s now a Jehovah’s Witness, sharing his testimony, preaching to people. Before I knew he was a JW I thought that was great… till I heard the door to door thing and he confirmed he was a JW. I know how much of a cult they are, I follow a UA-camr that talks about what it’s like and how she still struggles to this day about what she went through. Does anyone have any advice on what I could say to him? Or should I not say anything at all?
@larysnw418Because it IS lol
If he means alot to you, I would warn him. He might hate you for it but just let him know this cult is being exposed for a lot of unjustified suffering and you don't want him to get wrapped up in something that could damage him later.
A warning is all some people need to eventually break out of it.
Don't take this the wrong way,but I think your friend should decide for himself what's best for him as long as it keeps him away from doing drugs and he's happy with his life,and doesn't cause pain to others but overall I think you should listen to his side of the story. Hope this helps you.
@@jonathanscheffers6365I think I’ll take your advice, thank you for taking the time to reply🙂
@larysnw418 It is a cult (Bite model).
I was a jw for 15 years and I still know what happens through family connections and these are correct but 2 of them might need more citations
God's body in heaven is more abstract because it is more viewed as his will everywhere so some kind of duality there I'm having a hard time expressing.
Also adult baptism only is a rule in print and a new one at that but in practice it is anyone aware enough to answer the elders pre baptism questions with understanding is alowed to get baptized, I have personally witnessed someone as young as 9 take the plunge. and with disfellowshiping only happening to baptised members it has lead to enough teen self-deaths for them to outwardly change the look of that rule
Huh
A VERY EARLY PROPHECY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WOULD SEND AN ANGEL / STAR TO EARTH TO BECOME A MAN: “I will see him, but not now; I will behold him, but not soon. A star will come out of Jacob, And a scepter will rise out of Israel. And he will certainly break apart the forehead of Moʹab And the skull of all the sons of tumult.” Numbers 24:17
IT'S TIME FOR TRINITARIANS TO STOP LYING TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AND REPENT BECAUSE IT IS BLASPHEMY TO ATTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO GOD BEYOND WHAT HE SAYS BY MEANS OF HIS ANGELIC "WORD" (JESUS) AND IN HIS WRITTEN WORD THE BIBLE
DEAR FATHER I PRAYER IN JESUS NAME THAT SPIRITUAL COMPREHENSION WILL BE GRANTED TO ALL WHO ARE SEEKING THE TRUTH AS JESUS PRAYED FOR ALL HUMANS SAYING: “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”
MAY HONEST-HEARTED ONES FIND THE TRUTH AND ACCEPT IT IN JESUS NAME - AMEN
Informative video. However, JW baptisms aren't restricted to adults. Children may be baptized younger, especially if they grew up in a JW household. Whenever they are deemed mature enough to make the decision. The earliest I've heard of is 12 years old, but I have friends that were 14-16...
My cousin’s wife was nine. Nine! I have personally been in congregations with seven year olds and six year olds getting baptized. I never approved of it even when I was in. I’d frequently get into arguments over it. I can’t think of a single instance in the Bible where a child gets baptized. If we are to use Jesus is our example, he is said to have been 29 years old when he got baptized. In other words, you’re supposed to be old enough to know what you’re getting into and what you are committing to. There’s no way in hell a seven-year-old knows what they’re getting into and what they’re committing to. All they know is everybody is congratulating them and everybody’s pleased with them and thinks they’re awesome. What kid wouldn’t like that?
@@Hun_UinaqWell other churches baptise babies…
@@hereweare9096 I am aware of this. They do it for a different reason. Usually, a church that baptizes babies does so in order to save the child by having them be a Christian from the very beginning. Jehovah’s Witnesses reason for baptism is completely different. The reason is that somebody is leaving behind their former life of sin, and embracing a new life wherein they dedicate themselves completely to doing God‘s will as interpreted by the organization,. This usually translates to all the preaching work and upholding, the very strict statutes of the religion. Before they even get baptized, there is a long discourse that they have to listen to in a very public assembly hall type setting. During it, there are three questions that they must answer with a very loud and emphatic, yes while standing before the congregation. One of them involves that they will forever henceforth be identified as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and must adhere to their standards and principles. This is where I have a problem with baptizing children. That is too big of a commitment for a prepubescent child to fully understand. I would even argue that it’s too big for a teenager to understand. This is pretty much where they agree that if they screw up, they are liable to being shunned by everybody else in the religion up to and including their very own parents and siblings.
This is a very good summary, and in 2 minutes flat. I have witnessed to many JWs over the years (they come to me). They freely engage in discussion, but their doctrine is so mismatched to established scripture, I am amazed that they believe what they do. Much of what is presented here is clearly plain nonsense, and there is a lot. Yet I do believe in freedom choice. However talk about commitment. They put many orthodox believers to shame.
They have their own translation of the Bible (New World?). You go in a change of few words of any document, text, contract...presto. The meaning can change big time.
@@bradlong7941 Yes they do, and they are not permitted to use any other translation. Also the verses (especially John 1:1) are doctored to deny the divinity of Christ.
@@malcolmabram2957 it’s not true that they can’t use any translation other than the New World translation. They have an app called the JW Library that has several different Bible translations in it. The king James is fairly frequently quoted especially by the older people who learned the religion before the New World translation came out as is the new international version and the Jerusalem Bible. They use them whenever they express a point More clearly than the New World translation does. I’ve seen this done many times. They also use other translations in different languages whenever there’s not a version of the New World translation in that language. Give you three guesses how I know all this crap.
@@malcolmabram2957 Who told you they don't use other translations? Because they do.
@@foodforlaughs2015 Did some research, yes they do. Apologies. However, mitigatingly I do have JW friend who says he is 3ncourgaed to use the NW translation.
Just a correction , they dont believe Jesus returned to earth in 1914 , instead that he began ruling from Heaven , turning his attention to earth , specifically in relation to their organisation and the spreading of the gospel during the last days , which they teach also began in 1914 .
A point of note : Charles T Russell , who founded the Bible Student Movement , that eventually split from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society , taught that 1914 marked the end of gentile domination over the earth , but specifically in regards to Palestine , with the defeat of the Ottoman Empire , which he believed would lead to the restoration of natural Isreal restored to their homeland .
History indicates he was right in that regard .
In 1917 , the Belfour declaration was signed , paving the way for Jews to return to Palestine . The rest is history .
Might want to do more digging into that whole Balfour thing...most actual Christians have been deceived by it as well.
The 1914 thing, they revised it when it didn't happen then claim they never said the original version. They have done that multiple times. That specific 'revision' was copied from failed prophesy in the 1800s by Rev. Miller and the Millerites.
What's the justification for no blood transfusions? Why is that an issue? Just curious.
The bible bans the eating of blood and they see blood transfusion as a form of "eating" blood.
@@nathanjohnwade2289 oh, okay thank you.
@@nathanjohnwade2289 but they accept organ transplants!
@@hadast3806 As with other man made cults consistency and logic can be lacking.
@@hadast3806 yes. There’s a lot of debate about that. Private debate. It’s ridiculous and silly. it’s also super dangerous. People have paid with their lives for that believe. Even kids.
Just found your channel and am looking forward to looking at more. You are a very bright young man God bless
I spent quite some time reading over the comments of many people based on this short two
Minute video. It amazes me how people can come to a decisive conclusion about a religious organization so quickly. I would hate to see most of these people as jurors in a murder trial of an innocent person.
People choose to believe what they want, so long as it suits them! Even if it means ignoring truth or being dishonest.
The end of this system will come and so will those who wilfully chose to disregard Gods standards of living.
Just like in the days of Noah, you will look at where they were but you will not find them. Amen
*"This chronology is not of man, but of God. Being of divine origin* and divinely corroborated, present-truth chronology stands in a class by itself, absolutely and unqualifiedly correct...." (Watchtower, July 15, 1922)
*"The Watchtower is the channel which Jehovah, our God, is using* at this time to in the faithful remnant who are keeping the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Watchtower, August 1, 1930 p. 239)
*"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people,* and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 page327
"True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The "end" did not come. *They were guilty of false prophesying."* (Awake! 1968 October 8 page 23)
"Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower (Yes, expectations with false dates!)
"It is the Day of Vengeance, which began in the world war of 1914 and which *will break like a furious morning storm in 1918.”* (The Finished Mystery, 1917, p. 404)
*"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin* against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom." (The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p. 216 1971) [can be found in the book and on their website]
"He was laying a foundation for a work *that would be completed in our 20th century".* (Watchtower 1989 Jan 1 p.12)
(The 1989 Watchtower used the term "in our 20th century" in the magazine, but this was changed to "in our day" for the bound volume and subsequent CD library and website. Compare the magazine version to the bound volume and website version.)
"This was the test - the coming down of fire; and the fulfillment exactly on time has proved that *Pastor Russell was one of God's great reformers and prophets."* Watchtower 1919 Oct 1 p.297
"… the truths I present, as God's mouthpiece…" Zion's Watch Tower 1906 Jul 15 page230
"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226
"In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99
*"This chronology is not of man, but of God. Being of divine origin* and divinely corroborated, present-truth chronology stands in a class by itself, absolutely and unqualifiedly correct...." (Watchtower, July 15, 1922)
*"The Watchtower is the channel which Jehovah, our God, is using* at this time to in the faithful remnant who are keeping the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Watchtower, August 1, 1930 p. 239)
*"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people,* and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 page327
"Jehovah God has made known to his anointed ones in advance what these Scriptures mean." Watchtower 1931 Jun 1 p.160
"True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The "end" did not come. *They were guilty of false prophesying."* (Awake! 1968 October 8 page 23)
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds."
- 2 Corinthians 11:13-15
Galatians 1:8,9 says. "However, even if we or an angel out of heaven we're to declare to you as good news something beyond the good news we declared to you, let him be accursed. (9) As we have said before, I now say again. Whoever is declaring to you as good news something beyond what you accepted, let him be ACCURSED."
1 John 4:1 - Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.
2 Timothy 2:15 NIV Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
2 Peter 2:1 "However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among YOU. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves."
Luke 21:8 "He said: “Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them."
Matthew 7:15 "Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves."
Matthew 24:11,24 "And many false prophets will arise and mislead many… For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones."
"And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak..." Deuteronomy 18:20-22
(Proverbs 3:5) Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;
"Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
While it is true that people make quick judgements easily and perhaps unfairly, denying the trinity and still claiming to be Christian just discourages people from hearing them out. It's sort of like denying the virgin birth of Christ or the incarnation.
Well, due to yet another change in your THEOLGY, we can now be saved into paradise right through Armageddon.
Very good presentation.
There is one correction, however. CT Russell taught that the last days began in *1799* and Jesus returned in *1874.* Russell taught that Armageddon would occur in 1914.
Later, *1914* became both the year of Jesus' invisible return AND the beginning of the Last Days, after all of Russell's predictions had failed.
WT did not officially change the alleged events of 1799 and 1874 to 1914 until 1943.
1914 was the end of the gentile times, and thus, the birth of the Kingdom.
Bro. Russell did have some wrong views, but 1914 proved to be the beginning of Jesus' presence, and the start of the last days.
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_"1914 was the end of the gentile times, and thus, the birth of the Kingdom."_
What's your evidence? Prove it.
_"but 1914 proved to be the beginning of Jesus' presence"_
Again, what's your proof? CT Russell made the same exact claim about the year *1874,* and you just admitted that he had _"wrong views."_
Other than basing your claims on WT's hopelessly flawed eschatology, make your strongest argument, with evidence, that any of what you just said is true.
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*"1914...the birth of the Kingdom."*
CT Russell taught the birth of the kingdom happened in *1878.*
He had "incontrovertible proof" for that claim as well, just as WT claims to have "incontrovertible proof" for their 1914 date. Best of luck to you.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 You said ""1914 was the end of the gentile times, and thus, the birth of the Kingdom."
What's your evidence? Prove it."
(Matthew 24:3) While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”
Jesus' following words gave that sign, and it has been fulfilled since 1914. Also the 7 times prophesy in Daniel directly pointed to 1914 as the end of the gentile times.
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Nothing you said is evidence. All you're doing is repeating the script WT has given you. Quoting random scriptures, then making wild assertions about them isn't evidence, either.
*"the 7 times prophesy in Daniel directly pointed to 1914"*
Really? Are you aware that NOT ONE verse in the Bible ever gives a date for anything?
Give me your best, most convincing argument, that Daniel's prophecy points to 1914. How do you arrive at 1914 based on the book of Daniel? Go ahead and walk us though it. I bet you've never given this even one second of thought or proven it to yourself, have you? You're just repeating what you've been told by WT, the non-prophet organization.
Refuting 'the organization' is easy enough but replacing its teachings can be difficult because some 'unlearning' is needed. To quickly summarize principal WT errors: 1) Supersessionism (ie. the Church - 'the organization in WT parlance' - inheriting the promises made to natural Jews), 2) Arianism (a fourth century heresy) and 3) partial preterism, namely that Christ has returned and the Kingdom has already been established on Earth. For example wrt to point #1 Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607BC as per WT, that happened roughly 20 years earlier, so the 1914 date for the return doesn't work; however if you apply the 2,250 prophetic years for the return of Israel to the Decree of Cyrus then you land on May 14, 1948, exactly when Israel was reestablished as a State. As for 144,000 these are natural Jews (Messianic converts like Paul most likely) appointed during the Tribulation period about which Revelation is written to evangelize after the 'restrainer' (ie. the true Church made of born again believers is gone), and not a cap on the number going to heaven. Point being, the Bible is true and inspired and if you want to know what is required for Salvation please simply read Romans 10:9,10. God wants a direct relationship with each of us we simply need to ask directly and genuinely repent of our sins. Denominations are all corrupt to varying degrees, thankfully that's not where we need to look for salvation. We simply need faith.
A 100%. Though leaving, going to seminary, becoming an Evangelical Christian I am still... 14 years later, having to purposely unlearn 42 years of indoctrination.
Not only anti-Watchtower, but isn't it true they aren't allowed to read or view any Christian material?
I know they are allowed to read the Holy Christian Bible but they have a little gray book that tells them how the Holy Scriptures should be interpreted. From my experience they are taught not to debate with Christians for they don't want them to question their religion , for the want full control on how they should believe so they can continue to brainwash them.
That is 100% true, they consider themselves to be the only true christians so anything related to other religions (even songs) is seen as apostate and therefore prohibited
@@GZbroadcastExcept they aren't actually Christians at all. Poor souls.
As a 14 year old Jw, it’s so sad seeing other people spreading false information about my religion, it’s not true at all. We are allowed to learn about other religions, I’m currently learning about the Islam religion because I have Muslim friends and I like to learn new things, Jehova never said that we can’t read or view any Christian material or othe religious material, some people on the internet are just rude and try to make us (Jw’s) look bad for idk what reason but be careful to what you trust on social media because a lot of it is not true. If you want real information it’s better to talk to a someone who is actually a Jw, not a ex member or someone else cause they might have anger or add lies to make others distance from us.
@@Vm16002 I actually have talked to JWs a lot and even been to several Bible studies, just to see what it was all about. They told me they cannot read other religious material - including Protestant material, and even including other Bibles except for the KJV.
They have a bible version without some verses found on most bibles
Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."
Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."
Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed. What arethe Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."
Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."
Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."
Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."@larysnw418
Very good video! (Although i never heard the jc in 1914 thing during my time there)
Hello sister 😊😊😊
Isn't 1914 the year WW1 started?
They failed their predictions about the end of the world. When is this happening again?
@larysnw418JWs predicted the end of the world.
1914" The Day of Vengeance p.547
"the great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation," will reach its culmination" The Time Is at Hand (1889 ed.) page 77 - page 78
"we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun" The Time Is At Hand (1889 ed.) p.101
"we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99
"October, 1914, will witness the full end of Babylon" Watch Tower 1911 Jun 15 p.190 (reprints p.4842)
"Christendom, will have passed away, as already shown in prophecy." Thy Kingdom Come (1891 ed.) p.153
Ripcord is a JW troll.
They had multiple 'end of the world' dates, were given that information by angels.
JW doorknockers were such a non-stop nuisance back in the '70s-'90's in his rural town that my uncle always kept a loud barking dog on the porch to keep people from approaching the door.
They used bother people at train stations in my neck of the woods
If you just have a sign on your door that says "apostate JWs live here," they will leave you alone.
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@@jamesparson They've been standing outside of my local burger joint now. They were at my park and even once knocked on my door.
I just don't answer them if they speak to me on the street. When anyone knocks on my door (whatever missionary, door-to-door sales, or scam artist) I just say what do you want?
One missionary said "want to discuss the Bible." My yelled back was no thanks I have enough Bibles. The door person says "want to tell you --" I just interrupted I have all the info I need, go away. The caller(s) left. No more interaction.
Some people would say I should engage further discussion. Why? I didn't ask for their visit. I can go to their place of meeting, go their website (or any other) and this intrusion of my privacy and time is not tolerated by me. These door-to-door people are trying to take advantage of lonely, ignorant, defenseless people, and when they got their literature or money or free will, the victim is hard to lead a better life.
And my religion is precious to me. And my conversion to the religious views were on MY TIME and FREE WILL. I don't need to bother people. I still get street preachers singling me out. No matter what I say, they are rude and controversial. They are not how the disciples were, because Jesus said if the people have a desire, they will accept the message, or shake the dust off and go to the next town.
And I appreciate that.
Were jehovahs witnesses influenced by Mormons? Some doctrines sound EERILY similar to doctrines Mormonism originated decades to nearly a century prior, such as Christ ruling for 1000 years where the limited righteous will assist in his works, the salvation of the ignorant being given another chance during the millennium/after death, and multiple paradises
JWs, Mormons, 7 the Days and several other groups were all formed within a 500 mile radius in Northern, western New York.
Nothing to do with the Momons, we just look like them 😆 tangentially related to Seventh Day Adventists, but that was back when they were hard-core anti trinitarian and Annihilationist, they changed over time. And unlike Mormons all our doctrine comes from the Bible, we don't do the "we have another prophet" thing.
As someone whose faith is involved in this comment, please refrain from using the term "Mormon". It is slang and incorrect. President Nelson, in 2018, asked those who are members or who respect the Church to use its true name- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- or else refer to it as "the Restored Church of Christ" or "the Church of Christ".
@@EmilyS-gk3st I’m mormon. It isn’t “slang” it’s the name of the man who abridged the Book of Mormon and a term that Joseph smith himself went along with calling us. It isn’t “continuing revelation” to give us a rebrand. It’s an attempt to get us away from false stereotypes that we don’t believe in Jesus. Stop acting like the name every single church leader for the past 250 years has used to refer to us is a slur, it’s probably the most mind numbing act of blind faith I’ve ever seen
@@zrosix2240 Exactly. Slang is an informal term (that can be slightly offensive). It is offensive to me to be called a term that has nothing to do with Christ, whom I serve. While I respect Mormon, he wasn't the one who redeemed me, nor is he the one I worship.
President Nelson himself insists it's not a rebrand, but a correction.
I myself feel far more comfortable with the incorrect term LDS than Mormon.
I remember back in 1980 my wife’s grandfather told me that back in 1925 he watched all the Jehovah’s Witnesses in his area as they were gathered on a hill waiting for something big that was supposed to happen. Apparently it didn’t happen.
’1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures …the Christian has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had (so far as the Scriptures reveal) upon which to base his faith in the coming deluge’ - Watchtower April 1, 1923, p. 106
A hill party?
I was raised a JW. Well done and accurate.
Dear Crownsravens8998: Jehovah is the True God.
@@eddyvideostarit's in the prophesy that the road to salvation will be very narrow specially for the non believers (as expected). The vast majority of us won't make it when judgement day arrives. However my lifestyle currently don't live up to the values. So if I'm not choosen to partake in the 1000 years of Jesus's reign and beyond then may I return to dust painlessly and enjoy what is left of this current man driven system. Only God's wisdom can truly guide us.
@@DemetrioXavier69 Keep doing your utmost and don't give up, It's not an all-or-nothing religion. Refrain from and obey the things you can, and improve upon difficult things. Satan's children make it tough.
For example: A threatening burglar in one's home, would need to be *disabled by striking blows* -- until he is.
Trying to hold him down with one hand and calling for the police in the other is impossible -- not necessary -- and is not a sin.
You are not going to preach to a drunken sidewalk scooter rider who hit you.
You are *not* going to *bend over* for dirty *union* workplace harassers and intimidators -- when the supervisor is also brainwashed into their "gang."
Thank you for condensing this.
Wha about the part where you have to study extensively in order to be baptized. The story of the Ethiopian Eunoch being baptized on the same day of his new found faith, Phillip performing the ritual would disagree.
Very accurate and to the point video. I recently left and can now see how flawed their teachings are!
What exactly have you found for yourself that was flawed in their teaching based on the bible? Because when I see videos like this makes me wonder that I'm in a different kind of yw organisation...
@@Karolina-jo3om The Bible warns about Jehovah's Witnesses, it warns of false teachers, false prophets, those that add to or go beyond scripture. *JWs claim to follow the Bible and yet* no Bible I know of says anything about 1799,1844,1874,1879, 1914,1915, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1936, 1940's, 1950's, 1960's,1975, 2000,ect. JWs call their literature "food FROM God", repeat "food FROM God" yet it has these false dates.
*"Jehovah's Witnesses, ... have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* - Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
@@wylolister3218 i agree with those aspects, as those elders had no right to prophesy when the end would come. In our jw org, we give no mind to those people as no one knows exactly when the saviour will come. Jw do follow and live by the bible as best they can, without trying to change it to what it is not.
@@Karolina-jo3om The fact the JW live in fear of complete shunning if the want to celebrate Thanksgiving, birthdays, etc. is so disturbing. Who should care? Extremely cruel.
@@lrajic8281 here in Lithuania the jw are humane. Tho the celebrations of these events that are for human enjoyment are not commendable by God and brother Jesus, and thus viewed as sin, we do not kick anyone out, banish or whatever you call it. They have bible studies among us, the elders are working with them kindly.
My beloveds even if you agree with most of their teachings(this religion or any other religion)the missed the biggest part Jesus Christ is God. ✝️🙏❤️🛐
They're blinded by Satan😢
Do you think you could do a video on the Anglican Catholic Church?
He already did lol through his videos
ua-cam.com/video/8tlPqyp2Q8s/v-deo.html
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: Refer to the time, please? What time?
@@eddyvideostar in the UA-cam search bar type “ready to harvest Anglican Catholics” a video from 2 years ago should populate.
How you can reject 2000 years of orthodox Christian teaching and still call yourself a Christian is beyond me.
I'd like to see a video about The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite).
I'm one Jehova Witness and this video is so good and infomational
This channel also has excellent info on JWs: youtube.com/@LightoverDarkMinistry?si=sgpqyeL_MdIgajhi
I had to deal with this until I grew up
Took a while to believe till I read the book myself now I'm non denominational
I recommend looking into Orthodoxy
@@guadalupecastro4226 and I recommend looking into Catholicism!
@@guadalupecastro4226 why are you orthodox and not catholic, maybe we can talk about it
@@sniperpronerfmods9811 one thing is the papacy
Look into classical Protestantism.
So, basically not Christianity but heretical?
Of course.. Read the words of Jesus and then read the crap that This Church of the devil is founded on
This is perfect! Thank you!
I don't know if I want to join denomination that won't celebrate birthdays
@@SThomas-vh9jc Yes, explain yourself, are you kind, with the Word of God.
Abraham celebrated Isaac's birthday, and the wise men celebrated Jesus' birthday, WITH GIFTS. God likes celebrations and happy people,
and established very many celebrations. He created man in his own image. You will find all celebrations in God's Word, the Bible.
I do not accept the new world translation as words have been subtracted and words added. Scriptus Receptius is the Word of God.
The scribes, the Pharisees, were the riders of the law, and Jesus tried to impress context into their minds with parables over and over again. It didn't work.
Why does jw remind me of them?
NB. MY sister and brother are both jw.
Or Christmas or Easter or Thanksgiving or Mother's Day or Remembrance Day.
Why are the comments on this channel so argumentative. We're here to learn about Christianity not just call everyone we don't like heretics
Idk, non trinitarian doctrine, while claiming to be Christian seems like grounds to be considered a heretic.
@larysnw418 not really no.
Don't Taze me, bro
Dear MIkedan 8813, What's that?
Talking a lot to JW's I can confirm that every point in this video is correct.
Jesus Christ sent all of you to preach about the Jw's or satan the devil sent all of you to preach about the Jw's???????
Thank u for the truth and explaining soooooo CLEAR with no ifs and buts and from the bible
The Bible says that the word of God should not be changed:
Warnings against adding or taking away
The Bible includes several passages that warn against changing the words of God, such as Deuteronomy 4:2 and Revelation 22:18-19.
God's message is unchanging
The Bible says that God's message has not changed since the beginning of time.
God's word is eternal
The Bible includes passages that say that God's word is eternal, such as Psalm 119:89, Isaiah 40:8, and Matthew 24:35.
“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2.)
This is really cool. In regards to baptism, they do baptize young kids under the age of 16. So baptism is not only for adults.
I was baptized at 10 and had a friend who was baptized at 7. They definitely baptize children while criticizing Catholics for doing the same.
My husband is Catholic and he did his first Communion when he was 9.
It's more a matter of a "believer's baptism" rather than an "infant baptism/alter call baptism." We don't see baptism as the FIRST step, but follow Jesus' example (as his started his ministry for the rest of his life).
We would expect people to have ALREADY repented of their sin and submitted themselves to God to qualify for baptism. It's an ordination into the ministry that should come after you've thoroughly studied. So, if you've been studying since birth, baptism as a teenager happens.
The comment below about people baptized at 7-10 would be quite abnormal... I wouldn't call the guy a liar or anything, but I've certainly never seen anyone THAT young baptized as a JW. I've done some bible readings and a talk in front of the congregation before the age of 10, sure... but we view baptism as serious as a marriage.
@@morielrorschach8090 "In the summer of 1946, I was baptized at the international convention in Cleveland, Ohio. Although I was only six years of age, I was determined to fulfill my dedication to Jehovah." *Watchtower 1992 Mar 1 p.27*
As soon as she learned to read and write, Paola enrolled in the Theocratic Ministry School and became a publisher. Because of her love for Jehovah, she got baptized at the age of seven." *Yearbook 2011 p.58*
@@morielrorschach8090 Why do JWs need to have elders decide if they "qualify" for baptism? Why do they need to answer 100 questions give or take to qualify? Do you have a scripture for this? Why do they need to declare themselves dedicated to God and an Organization? Again, scripture?
@@wylolister3218 I'm sure those aren't the only two cases in history. But it would still be very abnormal. I'm 3rd generation, and starting to pursue preparation for baptism around 11 was still rather early.
We believe people should "qualify" for baptism because it's not a decision to make on a whim... It's a commitment to minister for the rest of your life, as serious of a commitment as marriage. So, people should demonstrate that this isn't an impulse, that they actually understand what they're committing to, and that they're committing to serve God for the right reasons (loyalty to HIM, not trying to please their parents or impress some girl or whatnot).
Although, you're right, the bible doesn't lay out such strict requirements. In fact, there are examples where apostles come across people and "what's to stop me from being baptized right now?" That's not necessarily an illegitimate baptism. But it's also not necessarily as meaningful of a baptism.
How you know JWs are wrong: they got their god's name wrong! There is no "j" sound in Hebrew.
And modern scholars agree that the likeliest correct pronunciation of the tetragrammaton is "Yahweh".
On top of that, the vowels they chose come from Adonai, the word Jews used to AVOID saying God’s name. It’s hilariously false, and yet unfortunately my grandparents and many more around the world believe them.
I will argue on that: It is the English pronunciation of God's name. We do not speak Hebrew therefore we do not use Hebrew pronunciation. Just like we say Jesus, Joshua, Jehu, and also like we call Deutshland Germany and Nippon is Japan. This forcing of people to pronounce as if they are native speakers of a foreign language is a recent invention.
@@nspro931 Absolutely. The "you spell it wrong"-argument doesn't prove a single point.
It is worse than that.
There are a lot of Spanish speakers who are JW. They change it for Spanish. They even have it both ways on the same building.
Jajaja
Btw, that is Spanish for hahaha
Jehovah witnesses baptized children, the youngest baptized in their publication is 6 yrs. Most baptized at the age of 12 - 18 yrs.
Can confirm. I was 16. And they don’t just baptize children, they contractually obligate these children to adhere to their tenants whether they truly and absolutely understand what they are getting into or not. Failure to strictly adhere to these tenants may result in expulsion and subsequent shunning by the entire group up to and including your own parents and your own siblings. No, you don’t sign a paper. What you do is you stand up along with everybody who is a candidate for baptism and you answer yes to three questions that amount to a contract stating that you have now agreed to be one of Jehovah’s witnesses and accept everything that goes along with it. Warts and all. When you are in adult in your 20s, or older, I think the import of this sinks in a lot better. When you’re a kid, all you know is you are making your parents happy and what you are doing is dedicating yourself to God. That’s it. All the other stuff just doesn’t cross your mind. I speak from personal experience as someone who was baptized as a teenager. I can’t imagine how little of this is absorbed by a seven-year-old child.
I was baptized at 10 and had a friend baptized at 7.
Very commonly.
This is very accurate besides one thing. Children can be baptized, but there is a process that everyone must follow in order to be baptized. There are no babies being baptized though, I assure you.
Edit: The practice of shunning (disfellowshipping) has been modified. Those whom have been disfellowshipped can be greeted, however it is not encouraged to engage in deeper conversation past formalities.
I wonder how academics classify the polity of JWs. Is it theocratic? What does that even mean?
The 144 thousands people are the people in 12 tribes of Jacob not the Christians now, it was written in the revelation that there are so many Christian from different country with different languages that they cannot be numbered all singing and praising God.
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3...
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Every Church that believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah. According to "Matthew 16:16 Simon Peter answered "You are the Messiah, The Son of the Living God." If your church is founded by that verse then you are one of the churches of God.
They teach that the Jews 'gave up' being the Chosen People and the Chosen are now the Witnesses.
@@markhatfield5621 ultimately they spread about their church but not Jesus Christ, the new testament always talks about the salvation of all people that accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. "John 3:16 For God so love the world that HE gave His only begotten Son the whosoever believe in Him will not perish but would have an everlasting life." Whosoever means all people that believe and accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior will be save not because of baptism or church. The best example of this is the prisoner next to Jesus Christ when he died, he believed and accepted that Jesus Christ is the messiah, he don't have the time to be baptist or attend a church but he's saved.
Pray for the JW to find Christ 🙏
As someone who grew up as a JW and left, this is accurate. However my big question is, why would a loving god allow people to be deceived and then proceed to punish them for being deceived? That seems incredibly narcissistic to me.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe THE LIE
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Millions Now Living Will Never Die
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The operation of Satan!
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It is what The Apostle Paul was afraid of:
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2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ.
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The reason why God allowed this deception to continue is explained in the next verse:
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2 Thessalonians 2:12
12 in order that they all may be judged BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THE TRUTH but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
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It was through pointing out to members in my Jehovah's Witness congregation that the Governing Body is the Man of Lawlessness that, I was disfellowshipped.
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I can’t answer that. As someone who also grew up in it and left, I recognize and admire your courage and your bravery and rejoice in the fact that you are free of them. I hope you have a good relationship with your family. That is often the price that you have to pay for such freedom. And I hope that you have peace.
@@isaiah30v8 yeah, that’ll do it. That was one hell of a way to rock the boat. I can only imagine the shocked look on the faces of the men on your committee.
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Consider this extraordinarily unique end time prophecy that has always been in every Christians bible:
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Isaiah 66:5
Hear the word of Jehovah, you who tremble at his word: “Your brothers who hate you that are excluding you by reason of my name said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ But He must appear with rejoicing on your part, And they are the ones who will be put to shame.”
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[Name of person] is no longer one of JEHOVAH's Witnesses --->> "excluding you by reason MY NAME"
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Jehovah's promise to disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witnesses:
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"He ** MUST ** appear with rejoicing on your part"
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You are intimately connected to a truly amazing end time prophecy that really is now happening!
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It is therefore reasonable for a disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witness to believe that Jesus Christ will appear during their lifetime.
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Yes, Jehovah promised that we would rejoice!
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Through their shunning policy we will be separated from family:
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Mark 10:29-30
Jesus said: “Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news30 who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time-houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions-and in the coming system of things, everlasting life.
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What Jesus Christ said would happen, is really happening!
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God gave us His word so we would not be deceived.
Witnesses allow someone to put the NWT into their hands, and have traded the word of God for the ever changing word of Watchtower.
@phaxad 2 posts below gave an address to his conversation with JWs. After I went there and answered his questions, he turned off comments, so, they can no longer be seen. Let the reader use discernment.
This is the post that he did not like. Reference *his* video for the time codes.
His video ua-cam.com/video/Z_Yrr_zp-zQ/v-deo.htmlsi=U782pIiBBJSRZOBS
2:50 The Jews and early Christians were monolatrists. As the angels are called "elohim" in the Psalms. Even the judges of Israel are called gods, by God Himself. Jesus is a god in this manner. A god that serves his God and Father, Jehovah.
5:22 Where does the Bible say Jesus was created in God's image? (Colossians 1:15) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;
Can you think of someone else who was created in God's image?
6:00 Who was John the Baptist preparing the way for? For the Messiah that Jehovah sent them. Also, the "way of Jehovah" is how the people were to walk. Example: 2 Kings 21:22 So he abandoned Jehovah the God of his forefathers, and he did not walk in *the way of Jehovah.*
7:00 Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, and hence preeminent as well. Just like the firstborn of the Israelites were literally first, and preeminent among the siblings.
Jesus is also: (Revelation 3:14) “To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God:
Now I am sure you can do another lengthy post to change the meaning of beginning.
He is also "only begotten".
Strongs 3439 Transliteration: monogenés
Definition: only begotten
From monos: Definition: alone
and genos: Definition: family, offspring
genos is from ginomai: Definition: to come into being, to happen, to become
Hence, the "only offspring" directly from Jehovah.
The "only" "to come into being" from Jehovah. As all other thing came to being *through* Jesus.
Col 1:16 ...All other things have been created *through* him and for him.
John 1:3 All things came into existence *through* him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. Jesus being the obvious exception.
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, *through* whom all things are and we through him.
7:54 1 John 5:20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us insight *so that we may gain the knowledge of the one who is true.* And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. *This is the true God and life everlasting.*
_The one Jesus explained to us, who is true, was Jesus Father. That is the true God._
You're in a cult bro you should take a break from UA-cam and JWs
@@ramrod576 And join you in breaking God's laws at my discretion? No thanks.
@@777Tralfaz777 no man. Don't join anyone. Think for yourself.
I'm not your enemy.
Take the red pill and see how far the rabbit hole goes.
@@ramrod576 I do think for myself, which is why I ignore your silly advice that leads to the path of destruction.
If witnesses can't take blood, can they have blood removed in a blood clinic in order to lower iron stores for health reasons.
@larysnw418Go to JWfacts.
I grew up as a JW. I would agree with all of this but I would clarify the point about God is not everywhere. If God is the power-plant then the Holy Spirit is the power lines. That’s how god reaches everywhere.
well said
As shown in your other video I know you aren't the biggest fan of the organisation, so it's great to see an unbiased, neutral presentation of our doctrine.
That’s because he didn’t grow up in it and he didn’t see the ugly side that none of you see unless you come face-to-face with it. enjoy your kool-Aid
You believe in some wack doctrine...... don't need any bias to understand that.
Here is the problem with the teachings from Watchtower...
None of them can be found in scripture..
@@mattmurdock2868 ...could you please give me an example of what they teach that can not be found in the bible?
@@mattmurdock2868 your statement is easily proven false. They base a ton of their teachings on scripture. It’s just that their interpretation of scripture has some twists that mini find rather odd. If it didn’t have any scriptural basis, they wouldn’t be able to attract believers.
So in short. It’s a bit goofy
What do you specifically find "goofy"?
One time the Jehovah Witnesses came to my house and talked to me. but at the same time, the Mormons came to my house. I let both of them in. They did not try to save me, but did argue with each other. I did not join either one.
Sorry but every point I was like, No. Not to what you said but how they can hold to such unorthodox and unhistorical doctrines. They actually believe Jesus is Michael the archangel and believe only in a spiritual Resurrection of Christ, they deny the physical resurrection of Jesus! How can a spirit that has no location resurrect?
Now you have to do Mormons lol
Very fair. Great summary
I know they have something sort of like Easter, only because I worked at a school they rented the auditorium of for this service. Very well attended. Weird thing was they were willing to pay staff to not enter during their services.
It’s the yearly celebration of the Lord supper. Weird that they paid your staff not to come in. I would’ve thought they would’ve been all about that. They want as many people to attend as possible.
Could you clarify what you mean by "paying staff?" All Jehovah's Witnesses are 100% voluntary. We don't have any paid staff ever. We might rent a convention center or stadium for big conventions, but any of our staff is voluntary.
But yeah, we acknowledge Jesus' death and resurrection, of course. But the only religious tradition we find obligatory is observing the memorial of the last supper (the night before his death) due to Luke 22:19.
Different people may ALSO observe this in other ways... some may keep this passage in mind ANY time they drink or eat, reminding themselves that AS important as feeding your physical body might be, keeping what God accomplished by sending his Son to die for us is just as vital, and should always be on our minds. But, that's not a "requirement." Likewise, we don't have a problem with biblical holidays (see Leviticus 23). These feasts and fasts had meaning in the Hebrew scriptures already, but also Jesus dying to fulfil passover, then rising on the day of firstfruits, then giving out the holy spirit on pentacost... all leviticus 23 holidays. Then there's the feast of trumpets and day of atonement (which we hope will have a greater fulfillment soon). These are all fine holidays to keep in mind... but we aren't Jews in Israel with a temple and a priesthood, so we're not going to be making animal sacrifices or whatnot.
@@morielrorschach8090 Sure, I was contract staff required by local ordinances at the school. There was also school staff and one other similar contractor that were there. I got there had to do a quick inspection of an area and was met by a church member, who walked me through, showed me the steps they had taken in my area of responsibility and said he was sorry they had to pay for me and asked politely if I and the rest of the staff would stay out of the auditorium while they conducted their service.
@@Booger414 Aha, that makes more sense.
We TRY to maintain a reputation for respecting spaces we rent and leaving them cleaner than we find them.
Of course, the "stay out of the auditorium" isn't for secrecy or anything. If you wanted to attend in the audience, I'm sure you'd have been welcome... They just didn't want people working as it could be a distraction.
They clean up after themselves?
At this point that yw oranization is fake...in our organization anyone, even not part of us is welcome if they are interested and wish to know more...
Can you tell me why they don't believe in the things stated?
This video has quotes onscreen that you could use to understand in more detail: ua-cam.com/video/w0t8MYv6Kqo/v-deo.html
I am a JW, God is a Divine Being who created Jesus of Nazareth and the Spirit works in various ways.
I would ask you to consider these verses:
John 5:22
Matthew 16:27
Revelation 22:20
Revelation 22:12-13
Isaiah 44:6
Jude 1:25
Psalms 102:24-27
Hebrews 1:6-12
Isaiah 44:24
Job 9:8
In other words: they are lost souls
The name Jehovah is actually a mistake. The tetragrammon, or the four consonants for the name of God (YHWH or JHWH) which occurs in the Jewish scriptures is never uttered. Instead, a replacement is spoken, Adoni, which means Lord. Later Hebrew scriptures inserted the vowels for Adoni into the four consonants. Early translators misunderstood this and what probably should have been Yahweh or Jahweh became Jehovah. Note that there isn't any O in Yahweh but there is in Adoni. Also the leading Y could also be a leading J. Net, net, there never was a word Jehovah.
On January 21, 2018, Bible Scholar Nehemia Gordon and his team of researchers discovered the 1,000th Hebrew Bible manuscript containing the original name of God in Hebrew with vowels.
For two hundred years, scholars have believed based on Greek sources and conjecture that the Hebrew name of God was originally pronounced “Yahweh.” In late 2016, Gordon found never-translated traditional Jewish sources that explicitly identified the vowels of God’s name in Hebrew as “Yehovah.” This is similar to the English Jehovah, but with a “Y” and the emphasis on the final syllable. - Religion News Service
No, it's Jewish tradittion to replace with Adoni, but the name would be pronounced Jehovah, Jehovah, Yahweh, something like that, if the Jews did say it. "Jehovah" is a decent guess, but since Hebrew has no written vowels, nor the letter J, but does pronounce them, it's hard to be sure.
While Yahweh is probably the closest to how the deity's name was originally pronounced by the Judean worshippers who we now consider the precursors to the Jews, it is possible that there were variations back then. The religious elites who came up with the Tetragrammaton were possibly thinking of a slightly different pronounciation. Alephbet letters actually all have specific trailing vowel or pseudo-vowel sounds built in, and we know that on proto-Hebrew these sounds were fixed into words constructed with the specific letters. So, yod-hay-waw-hay may have been intended to be read as Yodhwawh originally.
@@aivomand7076 Haven't researched this lately but does top Jewish scholars think this Gordon fellow is right. Last I heard, no. Both the JW cult and the Catholic one agree that "jehovah" was first recorded in 1270 by a Catholic monk.
NO Jehovah in Hebrew or Aramaic Scrolls.
NO Jehovah in Greek Scrolls or codex's.
NO Jehovah in Greek Septuagint second century BC.
NO Jehovah in Codex Vaticanus 325-350 AD.
NO Jehovah in Latin Vulgate 405 AD.
NO Jehovah in Wycliffe's Bible 1380-1388 AD.
"there never was a word Jehovah."
So there! Put that in your pipe and smoke it; that's your reward :-)
When we were kids, my cousins and I would play a game called "Slam the door on the Jehovah Witness" 😂😂
My mom as a kid had a dog who could sniff a JW and bark and growl if they came near the door. 😂😂
@TropicalPower Jehovah also appears once in the Bible, even in Jewish Bibles. It's then Jehovah Witnesses who are taking God's name in vain.
@TropicalPower I changed my comment to reflect we were referring to Jehovah Witnesses knocking at our door as children and not God 😊
@TropicalPower I actually have a copy of the Jewish Bible and no it does not appear 6,828 times. In the KJV it appears 7, and fewer in the Orthodox Jewish Bible. The name YHWH is only used with true reverence in Judiasm and by the early Christians, the proper pronunciation is lost to us.
That is why, I am correcting your ignorance. I personally avoid the use of YHWH when I can to show proper reverence to the Lord because reverence draws upon my love and faith for Jesus Christ.
@TropicalPower I did because the KJV had corrections. I realize you are hurt as a JW but you are wrong.
So enlightening. Thank you.
I hope this reaches my girl and her family more
I am agnostic but was raised JW and have a continued fascination with religion. Excellent summary, and impressively concise. While I am not religious myself, I still maintain that the JWs have a closely-read legalistic interpretation of the Bible that seems more accurate to what that book says than what most other denominations proclaim.
None of the teachings from Watchtower can be found in scripture...
@@mattmurdock2868 You can disagree with the interpretations, sure, but for every one of their teachings, they provide Bible verses to support them.
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Witnesses neither believe in nor use the Bible.
The Bible will not support their beliefs.
Bible =Word of God.
NWT=ever changing word of Watchtower.
It is not a matter of "interpretation," Watchtower has written a "bible" promoting the god they have created for themselves.
All of the teachings from Watchtower can be easily debunked with scripture.
When the "scholars" at Watchtower tried to "restore God's name," they created a theological disaster!
Consequently, none of the teachings from Watchtower can be found in scripture.
They have their own doctrines and beliefs, and have created a kingdom for the god they have created to rule over them.
This video was much better than the 142 differences video. JW believe what the Bible says. For instance, trinity was first mentioned. JW do not believe the trinity because it did not come from the Bible, but from men.
The one thing I learned very quickly from conversations with JWs is that they do NOT Witness to you for your sake. They Witness to you for THEIRSELVES in order to gain points from their Elders…
That may be your perception. No JW will tell you that, or believes that. We believe it is a life saving work. Our goal is to be whole hearted toward God, not to be pleasers of men, like "their Elders".
Jesus said go and make disciples, and that is our goal.
The same holds for others also
Also persecuted by the Nazis. About 1,000 died in the concentration camps and 273 were executed for refusing to serve in the military out of a population of ~30,000.
Purple triangle was the symbol given.
The Nazis persecuted homosexuals and the Baha'i and several other groups.
Any believing JWs in the chat to confirm or deny? I think everyone should have a voice for their own faith. Would JWs even participate in such forums?
I'm a JW, what do you wish to know ?
@@JasonJacksonJames Did you feel that this video represented you well or was it true yet geared toward other Christian Stereotypes.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 yes more or less, though he only talks about periphery beliefs and none of our core doctrines
@@jacobsamuelson3181 though he said that "Jesus returned in 1914", that's not really accurate. We believe he was anointed as King in heaven in 1914
@@JasonJacksonJames What are the differences between periphery beliefs and core beliefs to you? Does every JW have their own opinion on which periphery is acceptable or not?