Is Norway attacking Jehovah's Witnesses?
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- As Jehovah’s Witnesses hit back at the withdrawal of approximately 1.5 million euros in annual Norwegian government funding, JW Watch looks at whether religious freedoms have been violated.
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First of all, I am very happy with the government becoming aware of what is happening within this group. A State that respects human rights and is aware of what this cult does cannot support it in any way.
yes its nice to see that there are some very smart people that are not fooled by twisted lies that are presented to the goverments by JW lawyers . I really hate the way they never tell the full story and the trauma imposed upon those that are disfellowshipped. There are too many factors involved with how serious Jehovahs Organation went off the rails difellowshipping people. Its ridicilious. Disfellowshipping could be used in extreme cases where individuals disassociate themselves WILLINGLY or they are trying to spread a false teaching that is contrary to the teaching or Anti- Christ views . Often difellowshipping is imposed upon people and often unwarranted . In realiity they dont need to disfellowship anyone just let Jehovah deal with the issure. And im sure Jehovahs can understand the matters much better then these clown elders that really dont no much .
Just delivered my letter of disassociation and said how happy I was to hear that Norway was removing it's funding because of the cold, inhumane and manipulative practice of disfellowshipping.
Just fade. You didnt have to.
You don't owe the watchtower anything. Not even a disassociation letter.
To be fair, it wasn't technically a disassociation letter because I've already been df'd. I know, it's complicated, but I'll explain. I had been df'd for seven years, but my dad (who was a witness) died last year in April. So of course, I wanted to be reinstated and become the best JW I could be in order to see him again. So I requested reinstatement. What a mistake. No contact, mere scraps of help and "spiritual food" from the elders and 20 months of just waiting. I flipped my life upside down. I separated from my partner because we weren't married and living together. You name it, I did everything I could to be worthy of reinstatement in these three men's eyes. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about now, but at the time, I was willing to go through whatever I could. But I started to see things and hear things about my beloved organization, so I thought, what can it hurt. First it was hearing about the ARC trial. I was SHOCKED. Then that opened the floodgates and I learned much MUCH more about what I was trying to desperately get back into. So, that began my waking up process and I began asking questions to my elders. Whoops, another mistake. Instead of praising my efforts to know the "truth", they only asked me why I was asking these questions and if they were apostate. So, that was that. I had fully woken up and told them my desire to not be considered for reinstatement anymore and the ugly truth about the truth.
@@hannah9371 glad you woke up.👍
@@hannah9371 We live and we learn!🤔😎✅
I can't imagine early Christians asking for Caesar's money.
Not the early Christians, but pharisees probably! :D
the elder who was twaching me was bragging that the witnesses refuse help from the state, which now I know it was a lie.
teaching, sorry about the wrong letter.
Thanks Norway! Good move
Good job Norway! This needs too happen everywhere!
And not just for JW. For every religion.
I think it's a strange notion that a secular government would actively support religion in the first place. Besides that, not being financially supported is not equal to being persecuted. It's a neutral stance... which should be the default.
Funding religion with public money is absolutely preposterous. They should stop foraging all of them, not just watchtower.
The Norwegian state has set aside an amount per individual each year. This amount will be paid to whatever faith or humanist movement you may have - whatever you may choose. Money will not be paid out if there is a conflict with the law or international conventions.
@@lpdude2005 I see, that's very similar to what we have here in Italy then. Here we have three flavors: 8‰ 5‰ and 2‰ which we can donate to any available beneficiary.
2‰ goes to political parties, 8‰ goes to religious groups (but Watchtower was always excluded) and 5‰ goes to non-profits, and (the irony) Watchtower qualified for the latter, though it seems they might soon lose that benefit.
Ironically, this net them 1.3 million Euro in 2020, which is 300k€ less than what they got in Norway, despite the JW population in Norway being 1/20 than the one in Italy.
Why do they even want “State Benefits” from satans old wicked system.??. If this is gods only true religion, the flow of constant money should be no problem.
Seriously, how much money DO THEY WANT and have hidden in their coffers? Pure GREED in my opinion, selfish GREED.
They say we are not supposed to worship 2 masters, yet look what the GB does, worship money.
Many thanks for keeping us updated! Watching u from Chania, Crete, Greece
Let’s pray for them to let us shun members of our families. They just hit a new level of unhinged
Thank you Lloyd. You've cleared the needed points
Very well said Lloyd 🌼
Wishing you a swift recovery from your cold Lloyd !
Well said. I will use this line of reasoning with my family.
“We will never change our beliefs!” - Unless there’s new light, gotta change with the new light! Can’t have old light.
Old light is the absolute worst.
Paraphrasing the great poets of Britain: "Operating, generating new light, new light..."
Unstable religion.
Answer: No.
Watchtower is jealous of religions that keep getting money from the Norwegian government. Do all religions practice shunning? No. Are there any new laws that have been put in place that affect religions? To me, Watchtower showing their history is nice but does not give them permission to treat their young people badly.
Never mind brother Morris it will be very soon when all in other religions will be destroyed for having freedom of worship and choosing NOT to be JWs. Just around the corner.
Jehovah's false witnesses have another Jesus that can't save anyone and another gospel of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense.
Yes, it's pretty ironic!
Those who survive The Great Tribulation know the song of Moses and of the Lamb. I'm a witness of Jehovah and Jesus from A to Z ,from beginning to end.
Revelation 15:2 And I saw something like a sea of glass mingled with fire, and those who are victorious over the wild beast and its image and the number of its name were standing by the sea of glass, holding harps of God. 3 They were singing the song of Moses the slave of God and the song of the Lamb, saying: “Great and wonderful are your works, Jehovah God, the Almighty. Righteous and true are your ways, King of eternity. 4 Who will not really fear you, Jehovah, and glorify your name, for you alone are loyal? For all the nations will come and worship before you, because your righteous decrees have been revealed.”
@@strappedfatman7858 Nothin but words from an old book of legends.....
@@strappedfatman7858 BTW, dont masturbate......I know you do, and Jehovah is watching you too!
As you say Lloyd, my very thoughts also; it seems to me that the WTBTS of Norway 🇳🇴 and Pennsylvania USA are crying 😭 not because they are not allowed to practice their faith (sic) ; they still are allowed to practice cultist activities, [T]hey are suing only for the money, and not for [r]eligious issues! I thought [t]hey were “no part of this world.”
CRIST is exposing All the HIPOCRISI
The book of Revelation chapter 17 and 18, show us that, the governments will take action against all organized religion
And stop their forms of worship completely....
This is probably the start..
Will see what happens.
Whatchtower should realize that True Christianity according to CRIST, is not base on money matters.
It's base on love for justice and doing what is right.
Whatchtower is murmuring, crying about the money cut.....
It's God,s discipline.
David Splane tells us not to let our emotions get the better of us, but the watchtower always uses emotions to convince. Satan's method.
When disfellowshipping equates to “Worship”
Excellent coverage, Lloyd.
Allowing religious entities to avoid paying taxes is tantamount to government subsidy. And given how the definition of what qualifies as a religion is so loosey-goosey, I'm not in favor of giving these organizations tax breaks. That's to say nothing of their extremely toxic and backwards practices such as shunning, blood transfusions, etc.
Well said at the end Lloyd, well said.
I am so proud of Norway for taking a stand on human rights against an organisation that is so ruthless, manipulative and cruel to its former members.
You've made some very good points.
Well said....
Morris can start with scrubbing out Norway from that meaningless map behind him !
It’s funny they fight for the right of “freedom of worship” for themselves but don’t accept other peoples right to choose their own freedom of worship
Your last statement was very powerful! Excellent work!
I had heard that the Supreme Court of Norway reversed the original decision. I sure hope that’s not true! Far too long this organization has remained untouchable!
where did u hear this? source?
That was a different case
@@jackpetersen7231 a video on Jay the Comedian’s channel
@@thehannahregina oh good to hear, the videos came out at the same time so I thought it was the same case
@@bigelib6373 oh me too... that case ruled that it's ok to shun an adult but they cannot shun children.
Need Anthony Morris more spend for Scottish Whisky?
That’s the softest persecution ever. They get to carry on with their beliefs and practices without state funding. Surely, the god to whom all gold & silver belong will provide right? They tell their rank & file to trust in Jehovah to provide. Where is their trust?
Those eight old men out of New York (governing body member's) care deeply about the money. To hell with the families that they break up because of their man made shunning policy.
@Ruben Daniel Hi ☺️
First, I don't care if the Biblical scriptures support your beliefs and practices in regard to religiously based shunning or not, Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, nothing you say could ever convince me that that concept is okay. Second, why is a supposedly secular government like Norway giving taxpayer dollars to religious groups or religious institutions of any kind? Does Norway have a State religion that receives government support? Aren't the largest denominations of Christianity in Norway, Evangelical Lutheranism or Eastern Orthodox Christianity--and if so, do these denominations receive financial support from the government--or am I confusing Norway with Finland? Three, even if the Norwegian government permanently removes the Witnesses' tax-exempt status within the country that will in no way impede on the JWs' right to practice their religion--including engaging in the practice of shunning former members of the JW denomination.
Four, the possible removal of the Witnesses' status as a tax-exempt religious institution has nothing to do with the issue of religious freedom. And it should be fair to mention that governments actually can prevent people from engaging in certain religious practices that may cause legitimate harm to others, but are individualized Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway going to be penalized for practicing shunning? No, nor should they be. As sympathetic as I am to the Witnesses who endured persecution under the reign of the Third Reich, what exactly does that have to do with the Norwegian government possibly removing the Watchtower Society's tax-exempt status in the country? I'd really like to see governments hold the Watchtower Society to account for their lax policies regarding child sexual abuse within the denomination. That's an issue they really need to be held accountable for.
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@@jaflenbond7854 Yawn.
Lloyd you see that scripture you shared in 1cor at the end, I was wondering the same.. Great point lloyd. 6:41
The reaction from the GB is illogical to say the least. Members cannot change their belief without repercussions ie being shunned completely and so it’s hypocritical to view the Norwegian government’s position as an attack on religious freedom. The sheer hypocrisy is there for all to see
"We are upset about the amount of money we are losing due to Norway's decision"
" We want to shun anyone that disagrees with us on any matter.
We hope they will be destroyed at Armageddon with much suffering"
Well they will all be rejoicing with their stupid persecution complex at an all time high. As for shunning, there is absolutely some people we must shun or have nothing to do with because they are just bad for our health but not because they don’t believe what others do.
AGH! That last part was amazing! Exactly what I was thinking, if that doesn’t show their money hungry, idk what does
Loved the closing arguments
"God loves you...and he needs money! He always needs money!"
Norway are great!
The Norwegian state has set aside an amount per individual each year. This amount will be paid to whatever faith or humanist movement you may have - whatever you may choose. Money will not be paid out if there is a conflict with the law or international conventions.
Fact is, it's not about money. 1.5 mil euros is pittance to a worldwide religion. They filed an appeal because the decision was on an incorrect assumption of the faith. Freedom to shun others is in itself a personal freedom, just like refusing to hang out with someone because of their politics. So, they filed the appeal to argue that perspective, it is a human right. Also, ultimately each believer has free will to decide whether to believe in the biblical interpretation or not, and just leave.
Why would JW accepted money from "Caesar?" smh
One of the biggest and toughest lessons I learned in leaving the org is that organized religion is something I went against my better judgment. I do not need any religious affiliation to know and worship Jesus. I agree with Norway, get them out and out of Babylon. And once Norway does that successfully, I hope other nations follow suit. Everyone has a right to say no to religion.
1.5 million aye? As for me and my household we will continue to remain no part of this world🤣🤣
Now this is good news!
CRIST Said:
For where there are two or three gathered together in my name,
There i,am in their midst.
Even if the government stops religion
It doesn't should surprise anybody....
Much less the people who claim to know the scriptures
Right???
Crist approves a meeting with 2,or 3 people anywhere...we can get together
Does Crist require a specific place to talk about him, or at same time talk about the father YHVH.
Of course not....
What is the problem then??
Blood in Blood out
Let’s go Norway!
Can't they letter campaign and crash the Norwegian post office ? It brought sweet fury in Russia .
@AGoddess Three elders in the Russian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Oslo were replaced a year ago. Russian-speaking does not mean Russian (Russian-speaking may be from Latin America, Georgia, etc., as it was in Oslo). The elders did not swear at all and did not order gifts in Ukraine (like other members of the Assembly) for themselves, but they avoided discussions with Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany, because they accused Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany of apostasy, since believers from Germany never avoided preaching, they were never refugees (like an elder in Oslo, etc.), the Germans did not swear like prominent members of the Assembly, the Germans did not order gifts for the Germans from Ukrainians in Ukraine, the Germans did not promise to beat (beat) the citizens of Ukraine living in Norway (citizens of Ukraine from Crimea complained about Jehovah's Witnesses from Voronezh. Believers "refugees" did not share a fishing rod with Crimeans and promised to beat them), the Germans did not order wine for LGBT representatives to celebrate their birthday, the Germans did not allow themselves to be massaged in the nude naked Norwegians, the Germans did not have 2 citizenships - Russian and Ukrainian (with the provision of Jehovah's Witnesses from Voronezh and a third - a residence permit for refugee from the Russian Federation in Norway. Although it is well known that no one persecutes Jehovah's Witnesses in Ukraine. It is well known that the payment of the state fee does not lead to the loss of the Ukrainian passport, no matter how much you would like it. It is well known that the application for withdrawal from Ukrainian citizenship does not lead to the loss of Ukrainian citizenship), the Germans did not prevent Ukrainians from studying the Bible (interestingly, open gays (Note: dozens of media outlets about Russian gays admitted to the Oslo Assembly) in the Russian Assembly were also happy with them did not interfere with participation in the Assembly) and the elder even personally instructed them to prevent Ukrainians from studying the Bible with the Russian Assembly of Oslo and much more .... Of course, those who denounced Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany as apostasy came from the capital of fake Jehovah's Witnesses - Voronezh)) ) One such refugee - "Jehovah's Witness" was split by the Norwegian Assembly itself in Stavanger, and she urgently thought of moving further from there to the expanses of Norway .....zzz
Shunning is inhumane and evil. Period.
Every religion on Earth should pay taxes. Let's see if God intervenes.
Sounds like you have a bit of a cold. Thanks for powering through and putting out the video.
Bravo Norway ❤❤
Goatlike Personality must be dancing a jig about now. Looking forward to his response.
You want a dance video? I can play a jig on my harmonica. JWs are actually still getting indirect funding in Norway, quite big money actually. I will keep working :-D
@@GoatlikePersonality Mange takk,
Mat 22:21 doesn't apply anymore I guess
Canada could take a page out of Norway's book.
💥💥💥Lloyd!!!!
I am a Ukrainian nurse. I live in Germany. Had the "happiness" to communicate with a member of the Russian Assembly JW in Oslo (Norway). So, this Estonian Miliana was cursing like a shoemaker... I have never seen anything like this in German congregations.
Все старейшины русского собрания JW Осло (меняющие друг друга) и матерящиеся (использующие русский мат) члены Собрания Осло сделали все возможное, чтобы: 1). Избежать публичной дискуссии с украинцами в присутствии районного надзирателя; 2) чтобы украинцы не изучали Библию с русским Собранием. /// Члены русского Собрания JW Осло делали заказы ураинцам на подарки им. /// Благо, есть немецкие Собрания JW!
@AGoddess Three elders in the Russian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Oslo were replaced a year ago. Russian-speaking does not mean Russian (Russian-speaking may be from Latin America, Georgia, etc., as it was in Oslo). The elders did not swear at all and did not order gifts in Ukraine (like other members of the Assembly) for themselves, but they avoided discussions with Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany, because they accused Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany of apostasy, since believers from Germany never avoided preaching, they were never refugees (like an elder in Oslo, etc.), the Germans did not swear like prominent members of the Assembly, the Germans did not order gifts for the Germans from Ukrainians in Ukraine, the Germans did not promise to beat (beat) the citizens of Ukraine living in Norway (citizens of Ukraine from Crimea complained about Jehovah's Witnesses from Voronezh. Believers "refugees" did not share a fishing rod with Crimeans and promised to beat them), the Germans did not order wine for LGBT representatives to celebrate their birthday, the Germans did not allow themselves to be massaged in the nude naked Norwegians, the Germans did not have 2 citizenships - Russian and Ukrainian (with the provision of Jehovah's Witnesses from Voronezh and a third - a residence permit for refugee from the Russian Federation in Norway. Although it is well known that no one persecutes Jehovah's Witnesses in Ukraine. It is well known that the payment of the state fee does not lead to the loss of the Ukrainian passport, no matter how much you would like it. It is well known that the application for withdrawal from Ukrainian citizenship does not lead to the loss of Ukrainian citizenship), the Germans did not prevent Ukrainians from studying the Bible (interestingly, open gays (Note: dozens of media outlets about Russian gays admitted to the Oslo Assembly) in the Russian Assembly were also happy with them did not interfere with participation in the Assembly) and the elder even personally instructed them to prevent Ukrainians from studying the Bible with the Russian Assembly of Oslo and much more .... Of course, those who denounced Jehovah's Witnesses from Germany as apostasy came from the capital of fake Jehovah's Witnesses - Voronezh)) ) One such refugee - "Jehovah's Witness" was split by the Norwegian Assembly itself in Stavanger, and she urgently thought of moving further from there to the expanses of Norway .....
As I understand it, they also lose their right to issue marriage licenses?
Hope this way of thinking JW's disfellowship spread through the whole Europe
The GB need to ask themselves why they face so much opposition and are hated so much.
Wow the heart is treacherous that is such a violent thing to express in this matter :-(
Does the Norway government put a ban on JW’s meetings and preaching work? If not, why do some people say that their worship is attacked in Norway?
Excelent comments
Shame every kind of "attack" tends to see them as individuals strengthen their faith. Jesus suffered and said we would too 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ cor it's hard work to get through sometimes
Theo cheese,
That is how the Witnesses are taught to view things. While it is true that the historical Jesus suffered a terrible fate, and while the New Testament authors claimed that Jesus told his followers that they would be persecuted, most modern Christians in the West, I would argue, don't have a clue as to what it is like to be persecuted for their religion. Often times, it tends to be fundamentalist Christians who are engaging in persecution towards other people that they look down on. The early Christians were certainly persecuted in horrific ways, though many martyrdom stories were made up. Once Christianity became the State religion in the Roman Empire, their attitudes towards heretics and apostates weren't much different than that of the pagans. The early Christians weren't very violent when it came to religious disagreement or really any other issue, but there were exceptions to the rule, of course. Hypatia of Alexandria, though not murdered for her religious beliefs (whatever they may have been, who knows?), was brutally killed because she was good friends with the city's Christian prefect by a group of fanatical Christian monks who thought that the bishop of the city should have been the local ruler, and these monks assumed that she automatically supported her prefect friend's right to rule. Most Christians, along with pagans, were outraged by Hypatia's murder and mourned her loss.
That point is, being a Christian or being religious isn't necessarily going to stop one from being cruel, violent, bigoted or hateful towards others. It depends on how one wishes to go about their religion.
I hope I Live to the day that watchtower bible and track society lose their tax exempt status in the USA . I Believe that Scientology has .
So I am curious Islam with Sharia law doesn’t allow you to leave at all how is this treated
Am glad they have they have their tax exempt satatus away
I personally don't feel the slightest bit of sympathy for the governing body. They had so many opportunities to change their policies so they were less inhumane and abusive. As they realized some were not practical to impose on the newer generations. Also the fact they covered up so much CSA incriminates them further and makes it harder for me to feel an ounce of pity for them. I also feel bad for the JW's who aren't in the governing body that they took money from making them think it was about making more texts and movies and dramas for the org when really it was going into making sure they faced no legal consequences for child abuse and CSA.
Also the org tried to pick a malicious fight with the norwegian government when norway suggested considering pulling funding. That's just poking the shark tank at that point. And making it really hard to see the governing body as the victims here. It's almost like they're trying to make it worse for themselves on purpose. Goes to show what a massive persecution complex like theirs can do to a person's self preservation instincts I guess!
They are still allowed to practice they religion, but just don’t get anymore free handouts from the taxpayer. So it’s not an attack on their freedom at all. A bit of an exaggeration by Tony Morris.
Я украинская медсестра. Живу в Германии. Имела "счастье" общаться с членом русского Собрания JW в Осло (Норвегия). Так, эта эстонка Миляна крыла матом, как сапожник... В немецких собраниях такого не встречала.....
Все старейшины русского собрания JW Осло (меняющие друг друга) и матерящиеся (использующие русский мат) члены Собрания Осло сделали все возможное, чтобы: 1). Избежать публичной дискуссии с украинцами в присутствии районного надзирателя; 2) чтобы украинцы не изучали Библию с русским Собранием. /// Члены русского Собрания JW Осло делали заказы ураинцам на подарки им. /// Благо, есть немецкие Собрания JW!
Hope so.
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Why would you need money for praying? 🤦♂️
I wonder how much they actually get in Grant money a year. I'd live to know so I have something to actually lob in my mother inlaws lap. She's the perpetual victim of persecution......
They didnt just lose their financial support, but also the right to hold weddings in kingdom halls. And that I think is worse for them than the money.
The Bible says to
“Pray without ceasing”
The JW build a new Headquarters
with NO CHURCH. ?
What ?
That is bizarre
I love his golden clock :) :p
You're not going to change your beliefs, Tony, well just take your problems to the UN that you belong to they can fix it with another of your contributions
I honestly was shocked hearing that they would apply for this funding or government grants seeing how they push for donations so much and how they are founded on donations even to the point of asking poor African children and families for their last or only dollars. They use such words as singled out and attacked. Which isn’t true. They have to apply every year and they didn’t get approved. They are not the only religions that didn’t get approved either. There were at least 4 or 5 others. Not One word about those religions… and honestly why would the true religion need this money? It’s only 1 million and change, you can’t tell me that isn’t water under the bridge money for the jw’s.
I like you haircut, Lloyd!
Jesos 🍾🍸
Ironic isn’t it that with what judgement you are judging you yourself will be judged
Pity JWs don’t see the irony or double standard 😞
LOL we have the right to punish people simply because they disagree with us go ahead pray all you want in fact every last one of you JW's out there pray 24 hours a day and see what happens
Matthew 6:24 "“No one can slave for two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other,c or he will stick to the one and despise the other. You cannot slave for God and for Riches." Watchtower shows with it's deeds that it slaves for riches. It means, according to Matthew 6:24, that it hates god as you, according to Matthew 6:24 will hate god if you will love riches.
JW ORG ?????
FORBIDDEN !!!
I love you loyd ,I wish you were my brother.
The best part about that is that their entire religion is based on emotional arguments and emotions and so to have that guy up there telling people to not let their emotions get in the way of scriptural teachings is hilarious because they're entire organization runs on emotions and emotionally manipulating its members
The Branch
Ezekiel 1:10)
"As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a MAN, and the face of a LION, on the
right side: and they four had the face of an OX on the left side; they four also had the face of an EAGLE."
The Prophet Ezekiel saw this strange vision by the River Chebar in the land of the Chaldeans while
in captivity. He noticed this vision from a whirlwind out of the north.
The Four Faces:
1) Man
2) Lion
3) Ox
4) Eagle
The Man represents 'Son of Man'; The Lion represents 'King', The Ox represents
'Servant'; and The Eagle represents 'Lord of The Air'.
The Prophet Zechariah is told about a Branch being a Servant, and a Branch being a Man...
Zechariah 3:8)
"Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are
men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth MY SERVANT THE BRANCH."
Zechariah 6:12)
"And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold THE MAN whose name is
THE BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:"
The Prophet Isaiah is told about a Branch of The Lord....
Isaiah 4:2)
"In that day shall THE BRANCH OF THE LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit
of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel."
The Prophet Jeremiah is told about a Branch being a King...
Jeremiah 23:5)
"Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a RIGHTEOUS BRANCH, and
a KING shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth."
These three prophets were told about Branches related to:
1) Man
2) Lion
3) Servant
4) King
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The Four Gospels of The Lord Jesus also represent him as...
1) King - Matthew
2) Servant - Mark
3) Son of Man - Luke
4) Son of God - John
Each Gospel represents all of the following, but the above mentioned start off with representations...
When Matthew presents genealogy, he presents it via the Royal Line. When Luke presents the
Gospel, he presents it through the Adam (son of Man) line. When Mark presents The Lord in
his Gospel, he presents him as the Servant; and when John presents the Lord Jesus, he does it
as The Son of God.
Acts 13:38,39)
"Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you
the forgiveness of sins:
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not
be justified by the law of Moses."
Believe on The Lord Jesus Christ; and thou shalt be saved!
Was the sign of Cain a Lion. Cain worshipped Jehovah God. He offered sacrifices to him. So did Jehovah forgive him by marking his land with the Lion. The Mark of Cain.
Genesis 4:13 At this Cain said to Jehovah: “The punishment for my error is too great to bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land,* and I will be hidden from your face; and I will become a wanderer and a fugitive on the earth, and anyone who finds me will certainly kill me.” 15 So Jehovah said to him: “For that reason, anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times.”
So Jehovah established a sign for Cain in order that no one finding him would strike him. 16 Then Cain went away from before Jehovah and took up residence in the land of Exile, to the east of Eʹden.
Genesis 4:24 If 7 times Cain is to be avenged,
Then Laʹmech 77 times.”
Matthew 18:21 Then Peter came and said to him: “Lord, how many times is my brother to sin against me and am I to forgive him? Up to seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him: “I say to you, not up to seven times, but up to 77 times.23 “That is why the Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a king who wanted to settle accounts with his slaves.
Acts 7:10... God gave him favor before Pharaoh, king of Egypt. God also gave Joseph unusual wisdom, so that Pharaoh appointed him ruler over all of Egypt and put him in charge of everything he owned.
The Great Pyramid has 8 sides. The 8 sides represent the 8 kingdoms of the world. Jesus is the corner stone. The last kingdom to rule forever.
There is actually ten sides counting top and bottom. First Empire was Nimrod. Who represents Babylon the Great, the Empire of false religion. The bottom of the pyramid is a side. All eight Kingdoms of Revelation ride with the harlot, Babylon the Great.
The Great Pyramid having no top corner stone and
the top being flat is the Harlot. Jesus is the cornerstone the builders rejected. The Nations would rather follow the Harlot than Jesus. Revelation 17:9 “This calls for a mind that has wisdom: The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. 10 And there are seven kings: Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet arrived; but when he does arrive, he must remain a short while. 11 And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also an eighth king, but it springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction.
Matthew 21:42 Jesus said to them: “Did you never read in the Scriptures, ‘The stone that the builders rejected, this has become the chief cornerstone. This has come from Jehovah, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? 43 This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits.
What does the Sphinx really represent. Because Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
Isaiah 19:19 In that day there will be an altar to Jehovah in the middle of the land of Egypt and a pillar to Jehovah at its boundary. 20 It will be for a sign and for a witness to Jehovah of armies in the land of Egypt; for they will cry out to Jehovah because of the oppressors, and he will send them a savior, a grand one, who will save them.
Revelation 5:5 But one of the elders said to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.”
It's not because of the Bible believes? It's how they (jw) treat each other in the religion? Bible says love covers the multitude of sins///2 times it says that again 1corinthians 4v5 judging nothing before Jesus comes,,,!,, yes must be read
Unfortunately JWs love to feel persecuted so this won't set them back much. A hit to the orgs hip pocket is nice though.
Whenever I see David Splane speak, I see pure evil.
First of all this is not persecution this is violation of humans rights I do hope the government is made aware of the many people who have committed suicide because of your none biblical rules you have people locked in mentally and physically they are controlled and have no rights
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