I way prefer the cable clutch. I hate hydros. They're just so short in the friction range and lack of adjustment. I have a Muller powerclutch to install soon but I have a cable clutch on my Fat Boy. I LOVE Harley's Cable Clutch. Also Stephan is awesome! his video was great for installing Heated Grips on an M8 Softail, and when I needed to do my front suspension upgrade, his video was incredibly helpful. Stephan if you see this. Thanks for being AWESOME!
@@stefansgarage3014 Big thanks for those videos! Apologies for misspelling your name! My ex BF's name was Stephan, so I forgot to check to make sure you spelled it the same or different.
I took delivery of a new low rider S a couple of days ago and I had an easy pull clutch done to it before collection. Makes a massive difference and was well worth it. Much less fatigue on my small hands
I put a Mueller on my 2015 FLHXS with the hydraulic clutch, as I do a lot of low speed exercises…made a big difference on the hydraulic as well. I’ve ridden bikes with the Harley cable clutch with the Mueller and they had a noticeable improvement vs my hydraulic! Well worth the investment!
Thanks Matt. I'll have a chat with Stefan and how this works compared to the Easy Clutch I had fitted when I upgraded to the 131ci to match Stefan's Red Hot Chilli Pepper. If this is an improvement I'll go for it. All the mods that Stefan has suggested have been awesome. Merry Christmas to you and the family. Kevin
I’m almost 60 yrs old and in the market for a Harley. I’ve ridden before several years ago and never remember having an issue, but when I was at the dealership sitting on a Road King I went to pull in the clutch and was taken aback by how stiff it was! No bike I’ve ever ridden had ever felt like that. I do have some arthritis beginning in my left hand and wrist as well, so this would seem like a no brainer for me for sure! Great video! Thanks Matt!
Dude, the new bikes clutches are easy pull compared to the older Twin Cams. My wife needs two hands to pull the clutch lever on my 1999 Electra Glide twin cam. I guess I'm used to mine with 100k miles, but I avoid city riding as much as possible.
I put a mueller easy pull in my FXDLS with an elite moto tech lever and fresh cable all at once and it was a crazy difference, I use the clutch with one finger.
Nice product, I am still getting use the Cable on my 2024, I did do bars and they replaced the factory cable with an aftermarket that i feel is better.
Stefan is awesome! Love my Wilbers on my 2022 Road King. the hydraulic clutch on my 2016 Street Glide Special was the best of all my Harleys. I do miss it.
I don't have these clutch pull issues. Of course, my main ride is a 1949 EL Panhead with a rocker foot clutch and a tank shift. My foot does all the work.
I had dealer put this Muller in my 2022 CVO Road Glide that has a 135 Build by Moonshine (160 TQ & 162 Power) and the pull was easy and buttery. BUT because of my 135 build the bike was creeping forward when in gear and the clutch is engaged. Just my 2 cents. I did have to go back to stock. Thanks guys you are the best. Have a wonderful Holiday Season!
I bought a $60 Pazoma Clutch Release Ramp Easy Lever Pull Kit. Much easier pull, but did not include the metal clutch adjustment piece. There is an easy pull lever you can get too, but I don't need that.... yet.
I did it once myself with the Advanblack power clutch. I had to change a longer cable after putting a 14’ bar as well. My last bike let I fix by the dealer with the Müller easy clutch. It feels the same and is a must do!! I don’t get it Harley doesn’t do this at all bikes OE??????
Wanting to change something doesnt mean need. My bike was great stock, and I'd could have ridden it 100k miles with smiles. But IT COULD BE BETTER! So I made it better. Never confuse fun upgrades with necessary upgrades. The only thing I would say NEEDS to be upgraded on an M8 Fat Boy is the compensator ramp. I wish harley would make much stronger ramps instead of that cast stuff. I went with a toolsteel made one from CycleRama. No more worries about busting a comp ramp. LOVE MY BIKE, love it so much.
@@FranBunnyFFXIIagreed. I have a 24 road glide and I don’t have any complaints. I rode for six hours yesterday and six hours the day before and even the saddle was fine. I still *want* to swap the saddle for aesthetics and potential increase in comfort but I could also live without it.
The only thing I would put in the category of HAS to be changed on a Harley Davidson is bars and riser. I have heard 2024 MY baggers are better than previous though. My 2020 RG and 2023 Lowrider S were very uncomfortable with the stock set up. Even that is subjective though, I'm sure there are people perfectly fine with stock bars, for me it was a must change.
My Road King has a hydraulic clutch. I absolutely loathe it in traffic. My hand feels like it’s going to break after while. I LOVE the cable clutch on my Pan Am Special.
I will have to look into Mueller. I really like the idea of the Recluse clutch. Especially living near the Smoky Mountains because traffic can be a pain! Which with this application, I wonder if I could use the Mueller Power Clutch with the Recluse? LOL
There is such a thing that’s been marketed for years called Clutchlite that only needs a change of ramp - I use one on my ‘06 Sporty as the Energy 1 springplate is heavier. It works on all Harley with great results and takes much less time to install.
now make one for the throttle my new 2024 low rider st is hard to crank and hold at speed because the spring is sooo tight. I come home with a sore palm and thumb. I have cruise control but thats only straight riding
Uneven pull? That cool. Try the Mueller, it's way cooler. The Germans got custom harley sh*t on lock. Nice upgrade, Matt. It's the little things sometimes that make things better.
@@MattLaidlaw Hi Mr. Matt! Thank you for your kind reply message!! I will write email to you to provide our home address, contact information to have for a possible future visit,! Our home is always open to host you all!
been using muller clutch for 3 years, all thumbs up and neve rlooked back.... in fact i can put in a stronger clutch spring Not enough credits given to Muller clutch
Thank you very much Matt 👍☺ ... And ... Hallo Stefan ich hoffe du hast noch Lust mal wieder nach Deutschland ( Heim ) zu kommen ... wir brauchen dich hier auch mit deiner Expertiese 😉 ... Liebe Grüße Arne
Those devices have been around for quite a while. They rarely work well as they change the amount of throw at the rod and usually result in less disengagement of the clutch pack. Baker of Bakers Drivetrain made videos about these products years ago. You might have reasonable use with the stock clutch pack but you definitely will have problems with performance clutches.
Burt Baker discuses the pressure plate /clutch pack throw / disengagement and notes his concerns with the EZ Clutch devices at the 4:13 mark. m.ua-cam.com/video/Q23gAxZVWq8/v-deo.html I also speak from experience as I had one installed on my 2020 FXLRS with stage 2. Once I installed the 131 stage 4 and upgraded the primary to Darkhorse compensator sprocket, manual chain adjuster, metal component Clutch cable and Rekluse Apex Clutch, the EZ Clutch device made the transmission nearly impossible to shift...especially from 1st to 2nd gear. Removed the EZ Clutch unit and everything worked smooth as silk. As always...your mileage may vary.
I think you’re probably right. Another commentor said his bike was walking with the bike in 1st and the clutch lever pulled in. He had a big 135 motor etc. I don’t plan on changing from the stock clutch and stock motor.
It's good to be careful with such components at first. After all, you don't want to cause any damage. But I can assure you that we have sold a great many Power Clutches over the last 22 years. So far, we have not had a single customer who has had problems as a result. The Power Clutch really does work perfectly.
@@mikedenney7139 We always recommend having the installation carried out in the workshop to ensure that everything works properly. However, many people also install them themselves. As a rule, they all manage this without any problems. We also have a detailed installation video on our channel:
I installed one and it’s a game changer on my 24’ RG. It’s ridiculous that Harley thinks the stock clutch pull is acceptable. They should just source Muller’s power pull as stock.
I have been unable to locate the Mueller power clutch 2.0 with the included metal adjuster. It seems like I can only find just the ramps. Do you know where I can purchase this in the United States?
@ I have been unable to locate it on the drag specialties website. Someone from your dealership contacted me after I emailed them and gave me the part number and I’m still unable to locate it. Anything I can find anywhere even though they are the Mueller power clutch 2.0 they all say it doesn’t come with the cable adjuster? I do have an email back to your dealership for pricing with the included cable adjuster and I may just end up purchasing it through you guys and having it shipped to Florida.
That one's cool for my next bike if anyone has hydraulic clutch I had steve install the recluse clutch slave for My Street Glide after the clutch feels like a dirt bike.
I way prefer the cable clutch. I hate hydros. They're just so short in the friction range and lack of adjustment.
I have a Muller powerclutch to install soon but I have a cable clutch on my Fat Boy. I LOVE Harley's Cable Clutch.
Also Stephan is awesome! his video was great for installing Heated Grips on an M8 Softail, and when I needed to do my front suspension upgrade, his video was incredibly helpful.
Stephan if you see this. Thanks for being AWESOME!
Stefan’s Garage videos are on point! I’m sure he’ll see your comment.
Of course I see it! Thank you very much☺
@@stefansgarage3014 Big thanks for those videos! Apologies for misspelling your name! My ex BF's name was Stephan, so I forgot to check to make sure you spelled it the same or different.
@@FranBunnyFFXII No problem, even Matt sometimes is misspelling it...
Many thanks for the great video. We are delighted that you like our Power Clutch 2.0 💪
I’m diggin’ it. Quality product. 👍🏼👍🏼
I took delivery of a new low rider S a couple of days ago and I had an easy pull clutch done to it before collection. Makes a massive difference and was well worth it. Much less fatigue on my small hands
💪👍
I put a Mueller on my 2015 FLHXS with the hydraulic clutch, as I do a lot of low speed exercises…made a big difference on the hydraulic as well. I’ve ridden bikes with the Harley cable clutch with the Mueller and they had a noticeable improvement vs my hydraulic! Well worth the investment!
Thank you very much for your feedback. We are very pleased. We wish you a safe ride at all times.
Informative as always ,matt. 👍the bikes are beauties
Thanks Matt. I'll have a chat with Stefan and how this works compared to the Easy Clutch I had fitted when I upgraded to the 131ci to match Stefan's Red Hot Chilli Pepper. If this is an improvement I'll go for it. All the mods that Stefan has suggested have been awesome. Merry Christmas to you and the family. Kevin
I’m almost 60 yrs old and in the market for a Harley. I’ve ridden before several years ago and never remember having an issue, but when I was at the dealership sitting on a Road King I went to pull in the clutch and was taken aback by how stiff it was! No bike I’ve ever ridden had ever felt like that. I do have some arthritis beginning in my left hand and wrist as well, so this would seem like a no brainer for me for sure! Great video! Thanks Matt!
after a few rides you will get used to it...
Dude, the new bikes clutches are easy pull compared to the older Twin Cams. My wife needs two hands to pull the clutch lever on my 1999 Electra Glide twin cam. I guess I'm used to mine with 100k miles, but I avoid city riding as much as possible.
@@CaptainRon1913 Thank you very much for your feedback. We are very pleased. We wish you a safe ride at all times.
Great video brother! Thanks for the shoutout. I definitely have to experience that clutch!
Already checking my February/March schedule...
I'm sure you'll love our Power Clutch ;)
I put a mueller easy pull in my FXDLS with an elite moto tech lever and fresh cable all at once and it was a crazy difference, I use the clutch with one finger.
Sounds great ;)
That's the German thing to do. Stefan is the man.
Nice product, I am still getting use the Cable on my 2024, I did do bars and they replaced the factory cable with an aftermarket that i feel is better.
Stefan is awesome! Love my Wilbers on my 2022 Road King.
the hydraulic clutch on my 2016 Street Glide Special was the best of all my Harleys. I do miss it.
Stefan loves to push German made products on us Americans 🤣
Yea the hydraulic clutches on 2014-2020 were nice.
Thank You very much! Go for the Mueller Powerclutch and you'll have a perfect bike again.
@@MattLaidlaw Why did Harley move away from the hydraulic clutches? I loved the one on my 14 SGS, never had an issue with it.
The favorite German is a good dude, along with the video.!
He’s an okay German 😁
I don't have these clutch pull issues. Of course, my main ride is a 1949 EL Panhead with a rocker foot clutch and a tank shift. My foot does all the work.
Bulletproof clutch too. Heavy duty enough to pull a sidecar and passenger. 😂
Haha. They don’t make ‘em like they used to I guess.
I had dealer put this Muller in my 2022 CVO Road Glide that has a 135 Build by Moonshine (160 TQ & 162 Power) and the pull was easy and buttery. BUT because of my 135 build the bike was creeping forward when in gear and the clutch is engaged. Just my 2 cents. I did have to go back to stock.
Thanks guys you are the best. Have a wonderful Holiday Season!
Interesting. Did you change the clutch plates and basket?
@ Yes to Reckluce
I prefer the hydraulic clutch myself , this looks a great option thanks Matt
The “feel” is very close to a hydraulic clutch and they’re very easy to pull.
And with a Müller Hydro Clutch its more better !
I like my cable clutch on my 2010 ultra classic. It took a lot of work to get it just right for me.
A dialed cable clutch can be very nice. I hate an out-of-adjustment clutch though.
I bought a $60 Pazoma Clutch Release Ramp Easy Lever Pull Kit. Much easier pull, but did not include the metal clutch adjustment piece. There is an easy pull lever you can get too, but I don't need that.... yet.
Why mueller so pricey 😅
Great video
I’ve been wanting to get one of these. Kruesi and the stunt riders recommend them.
I'm sure you'll love our Power Clutch ;)
I gotta get mine installed!
You’ll like it.
I fitted a USA made one to my Evo Wide Glide years ago
I did it once myself with the Advanblack power clutch. I had to change a longer cable after putting a 14’ bar as well. My last bike let I fix by the dealer with the Müller easy clutch. It feels the same and is a must do!! I don’t get it Harley doesn’t do this at all bikes OE??????
Amazing how nearly everything on a modern stock Harley-Davidson needs to changed. 😢
Wanting to change something doesnt mean need.
My bike was great stock, and I'd could have ridden it 100k miles with smiles.
But IT COULD BE BETTER! So I made it better.
Never confuse fun upgrades with necessary upgrades.
The only thing I would say NEEDS to be upgraded on an M8 Fat Boy is the compensator ramp. I wish harley would make much stronger ramps instead of that cast stuff.
I went with a toolsteel made one from CycleRama. No more worries about busting a comp ramp.
LOVE MY BIKE, love it so much.
@@FranBunnyFFXIIagreed. I have a 24 road glide and I don’t have any complaints. I rode for six hours yesterday and six hours the day before and even the saddle was fine. I still *want* to swap the saddle for aesthetics and potential increase in comfort but I could also live without it.
I never would have changed it if it weren’t for Stefan suggesting it. It’s an improvement and I’m glad I did it but not necessary.
The only thing I would put in the category of HAS to be changed on a Harley Davidson is bars and riser. I have heard 2024 MY baggers are better than previous though. My 2020 RG and 2023 Lowrider S were very uncomfortable with the stock set up. Even that is subjective though, I'm sure there are people perfectly fine with stock bars, for me it was a must change.
@MattLaidlaw it's just interesting that the Germans can do everything better, lol.
My Road King has a hydraulic clutch. I absolutely loathe it in traffic. My hand feels like it’s going to break after while. I LOVE the cable clutch on my Pan Am Special.
The clutch on the pan america is nice.
Awesome video Matt
I thought it was going to be install video
Maybe next time
That’s Stefan’s channel. I don’t really do install videos because it’s a conflict of interest. We want you to pay for us to do it. 😁
@@MattLaidlaw
Matt do you sell this power clutch 2.0?
@@willboyd7794 Yes they do😉
Me and Tom Friar (In the friction zone) will do a detailed install video end of January.
@@stefansgarage3014
Can’t wait!
I will have to look into Mueller. I really like the idea of the Recluse clutch. Especially living near the Smoky Mountains because traffic can be a pain! Which with this application, I wonder if I could use the Mueller Power Clutch with the Recluse? LOL
There is such a thing that’s been marketed for years called Clutchlite that only needs a change of ramp - I use one on my ‘06 Sporty as the Energy 1 springplate is heavier. It works on all Harley with great results and takes much less time to install.
But your Sporty has a metal adjuster already...
@@stefansgarage3014 My comment was about the ramp, not the adjuster.
now make one for the throttle my new 2024 low rider st is hard to crank and hold at speed because the spring is sooo tight. I come home with a sore palm and thumb. I have cruise control but thats only straight riding
That is so amazing
💪
Uneven pull? That cool. Try the Mueller, it's way cooler. The Germans got custom harley sh*t on lock. Nice upgrade, Matt. It's the little things sometimes that make things better.
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Oh gosh!! Hallo Herr Stefan!! Hertzlich gruss!!
Hi Mr. Matt!!
You both are invited to Calgary Alberta to ride the Rockies with us!!
Done. ✅
@@MattLaidlaw Hi Mr. Matt! Thank you for your kind reply message!!
I will write email to you to provide our home address, contact information to have for a possible future visit,!
Our home is always open to host you all!
Done! But first the Alps Mr. Matt!
🤘⚡️🤘✨✨✨
Sold!
been using muller clutch for 3 years, all thumbs up and neve rlooked back.... in fact i can put in a stronger clutch spring
Not enough credits given to Muller clutch
sound´s great, thank you ;)
Thank you very much Matt 👍☺ ...
And ... Hallo Stefan ich hoffe du hast noch Lust mal wieder nach Deutschland ( Heim ) zu kommen ... wir brauchen dich hier auch mit deiner Expertiese 😉 ...
Liebe Grüße Arne
Im Winter werde ich daheim nicht so dringend gebraucht...😁
@stefansgarage3014 da ist es in LA auch wärmer 😉 ... und auf dem Bike nicht so viel ❄ nur 🍦
Those devices have been around for quite a while. They rarely work well as they change the amount of throw at the rod and usually result in less disengagement of the clutch pack. Baker of Bakers Drivetrain made videos about these products years ago. You might have reasonable use with the stock clutch pack but you definitely will have problems with performance clutches.
Burt Baker discuses the pressure plate /clutch pack throw / disengagement and notes his concerns with the EZ Clutch devices at the 4:13 mark. m.ua-cam.com/video/Q23gAxZVWq8/v-deo.html I also speak from experience as I had one installed on my 2020 FXLRS with stage 2. Once I installed the 131 stage 4 and upgraded the primary to Darkhorse compensator sprocket, manual chain adjuster, metal component Clutch cable and Rekluse Apex Clutch, the EZ Clutch device made the transmission nearly impossible to shift...especially from 1st to 2nd gear. Removed the EZ Clutch unit and everything worked smooth as silk. As always...your mileage may vary.
I think you’re probably right. Another commentor said his bike was walking with the bike in 1st and the clutch lever pulled in. He had a big 135 motor etc. I don’t plan on changing from the stock clutch and stock motor.
It's good to be careful with such components at first. After all, you don't want to cause any damage. But I can assure you that we have sold a great many Power Clutches over the last 22 years. So far, we have not had a single customer who has had problems as a result. The Power Clutch really does work perfectly.
@@m-motorcycleIs it something an at home mechanically inclined garage mechanic can install? Any special tools needed?
@@mikedenney7139 We always recommend having the installation carried out in the workshop to ensure that everything works properly. However, many people also install them themselves. As a rule, they all manage this without any problems. We also have a detailed installation video on our channel:
I installed one and it’s a game changer on my 24’ RG. It’s ridiculous that Harley thinks the stock clutch pull is acceptable. They should just source Muller’s power pull as stock.
I need this on my 23.5 CVO. Where's the link to order this? Please do a actual install video. Thanks
@7:40 what fog light setup is that?
What is that cup setup you have for the bag guard?
주말 As the end of the day begins, the end of the night comes to a close and the end begins. 👍👍👍💖💖💖
I noticed you changed the mirrors out on your CVOST can you see out of them more clearly now
It’s about the same. I just did the switch back ones to match. HD should do them from the factory.
Thank you
I have been unable to locate the Mueller power clutch 2.0 with the included metal adjuster. It seems like I can only find just the ramps. Do you know where I can purchase this in the United States?
Drag Specialties, put in the number of Matt's screenshot
Laidlaw’s HD.
It’s offered through Drag Specialties
@ I have been unable to locate it on the drag specialties website. Someone from your dealership contacted me after I emailed them and gave me the part number and I’m still unable to locate it. Anything I can find anywhere even though they are the Mueller power clutch 2.0 they all say it doesn’t come with the cable adjuster? I do have an email back to your dealership for pricing with the included cable adjuster and I may just end up purchasing it through you guys and having it shipped to Florida.
Softails the same part?
M8 Softail yes, with the same results...
Bring back the hydraulic clutch!!!
😂🤣
that system has been out since the mid 90s,used to be called EZ clutch .
Would this work on my 2008 big bear chopper with the 6 speed rsd baker trans
I have no idea.
Would this do anything to your warranty?
Only if it causes a failure relating to the clutch.
Not unless the failure can be tied back to the aftermarket part.
Supersnob!😂
Total
Snob. 🤓
Well, who's paying for lunch?
🤣 I got you next time you’re in America.
Are we becoming a bunch of Princesses 👸… Seriously..🏴☠️
I’m a Harley princess for sure. 👍🏼
Title says hydraulic clutch...but it's not.
Title says hydraulic clutch Alternative. Look up that word.
@@MattLaidlaw Always am baffled by these viewer comments in videos. I think people just need to learn to read better. :/
That one's cool for my next bike if anyone has hydraulic clutch I had steve install the recluse clutch slave for My Street Glide after the clutch feels like a dirt bike.
Weird how other companies can pit hydraulic clutches on dirtbikes but HD cant on a bike that costs more than a small car😂🤡
Maybe my Dr will classify this as a Necessary Medical Device, so I can continue to ride, and have my insurance pay for the complete upgrade. 🤔😅
Checks out.